[03:50] <elky> anyone around?
[03:51] <nhandler> Sort of
[03:51] <elky> in -offtopic?
[03:51] <elky> trying to talk paddy_ni off his fat hatred rampage
[03:52] <nhandler> I'm not a named OP in there, but can act if nobody else is around
[03:52] <nhandler> Let me look in there
[03:53] <elky> maco, joining in doesn't help.
[03:53] <maco> elky: ok
[03:53] <maco> elky: wait you said that efore i said anything to paddy
[03:54] <elky> yeah, you were fact-checking the pounds stuff. he'll take that as you not backing me up
[03:54] <elky> and he keeps score of if ops back ops up
[03:55] <maco> huh? but 14lb = 1 stone has nothing to do with what you were saying
[03:55] <elky> maco, precisely. he'll take you joining in at that point to be an indicator that you don't agree he should stop
[03:56] <elky> it's how he works. he keeps score of how many active ops aren't helping stop him
[03:56] <maco> weird
[03:56] <elky> he's painful.
[03:56] <maco> im not an op in there though
[03:57] <maco> im just a random person
[03:57] <elky> he knows who is in here.
[03:57] <elky> beyond that, he doesn't care who actually has kick powers
[04:03] <elky> the simple matter is that people should get to be in offtopic without being alienated for body image.
[04:03] <elky> he's refusing to be considerate of that
[04:05] <elky> hmm, he obviously hasn't figured you're an op yet
[04:05] <maco> because im /not/ an op in there :P
[04:05] <elky> Tell him to stop baiting though
[04:05] <elky> He does this every time.
[04:10] <Flannel> Just ban him.  He's walked the line (and crossed it) far too many times
[04:10] <IdleOne> May I paste a small talk I just had with Paddy in here?
[04:12] <IdleOne> or not
[04:12] <maco> umm ... elky?
[04:12] <elky> pastebin it
[04:12] <IdleOne> it is clean, non offensive and SFW
[04:13] <IdleOne> and does not name any of the ops
[04:13] <maco> pastebin with short expiration?
[04:14] <elky> this is a logged channel though, PMs are not logged. see where the issue comes in?
[04:14] <IdleOne> I have nothing to hide
[04:14] <IdleOne> I will PM the paste link
[04:15] <IdleOne> 3 of you got it
[04:15] <elky> Hmm, He seems to think you conceded.
[04:16] <maco> since IdleOne said "not saying you can't..." yeah thats how he'd take it
[04:16] <IdleOne> I didn't say anything about specific topic. I left in open on purpose but also asked him to remember others feelings
[04:17] <elky> IdleOne, he's a complicated one to deal with
[04:17] <elky> He'll read in to things what he wishes to.
[04:17] <IdleOne> Now that being said I think that we all need to remember that we have seen and let slide way worse in -offtopic
[04:17] <elky> IdleOne, yes, but he's a persistant issue
[04:17] <IdleOne> then make a persistent ban
[04:18] <elky> he's due for another enforced holiday
[04:18] <elky> as Flannel said.
[04:18] <elky> IdleOne, we've been in this cycle with him for years.
[04:18] <IdleOne> he won't change. we know him. now if the decission is to ban for good then I'll respect it but until then we can't jump down his throat for every little thing he says
[04:19] <IdleOne> intentions are hard to judge on irc. I don't have to tell you that
[04:19] <maco> IdleOne: i think the fact that he wasnt dropping it was the issue
[04:19] <IdleOne> you know!
[04:20] <IdleOne> I am not trying to defend his case.
[04:20] <elky> maco, pretty much.
[04:20] <IdleOne> I am saying we either make a stand or don't.
[04:20] <elky> IdleOne, you're suggesting unrealistic ideals though :P
[04:21] <IdleOne> elky I am trying to be really nice here.
[04:21] <Flannel> IdleOne: If it makes you feel any better re: making a stand, were I around 20 minutes or whatnot when he was being actively troublesome, he'd no longer be in -ot
[04:21] <IdleOne> So ban him
[04:21] <Flannel> IdleOne: I'm not going to ban him so far after the fact.
[04:22] <elky> Flannel, if you want to discuss an enforced holiday with him now, by all means.
[04:22] <elky> The only reason I didn't ban is because he was spitting directly at me.
[04:22] <Flannel> He was dealt with at the time, just because it wasn't how I personally would've dealt with him doesn't mean he wasn't dealt with appropriately by those involved.
[04:29] <maco> elky: ps, we have an unwanted visitor in #ubuntu-women
[04:29] <maco> i think you kicked them yesterday
[04:29] <elky> yeah, i'm waiting for him to slip up
[04:29] <elky> it was only a kick, so i cant enforce a ban evasion :(
[04:39] <elky> maco, i'm going to get some lunch, ban the guy if he starts with the euphamisms again today
[04:40] <maco> elky: ok
[05:20] <elky> Flannel, still around?
[05:21] <Flannel> elky: What's up?
[05:21] <Flannel> O
[05:21] <Flannel> h
[05:21] <elky> Yeah.
[05:21] <elky> Your turn.
[05:37] <IdleOne> nobody told me this job meant I had to take the advice my therapist gives me and then give it away for free to others
[05:37] <IdleOne> I pay that doctor good money
[05:37] <IdleOne> :)
[05:37] <IdleOne> I should of read the fine print before I signed the contract
[06:47] <elky> heh
[07:05] <Madpilot> hey all
[07:13]  * maco just read -ot scrollback from 2 hours ago and wonders why justin22885 was not told off for transphobic comments
[07:25] <elky> because i didn't notice them. he was attention seeking earlier, but it wasn't like that
[08:06] <jpds> elky: Hi.
[08:06] <elky> jpds, hi?
[08:07] <jpds> elky: Can you change the /topic of #ubuntu-uds-auditorium-canopee to point people at #ubuntu-uds ?
[08:07] <elky> uh, i don't know
[08:07] <jpds> Access lists for both channels is rather limited.
[08:08] <elky> tsimpson?
[08:08] <elky> jpds, i dont have access to any of those accounts, no. stdin is tsimpson though
[08:08] <jpds> Idle: 10 hours.
[08:08] <elky> i cannot do anything for you, sorry
[08:08] <jpds> Arg, I forgot you're not council anymore. :(
[08:09]  * jpds wonders where jussi went.
[08:21] <jpds> jussi: Can't we just do *!*@ubuntu/member/* ?
[08:24] <jussi> jpds: [10:24:43] [ChanServ] Flags +t were set on *!*@ubuntu/member/* in #ubuntu-uds.
[08:24] <jpds> o/
[09:20] <Tm_T> was it $ the banforward character?
[09:21] <Tm_T> yes
[09:24] <Tm_T> ...I think I got it right
[11:02] <Madpilot> morning dholbach
[11:37] <Tm_T> nice
[11:51] <Tm_T> tsimpson: I'm trying to find out if he's been pasting, relaying or just genuine user, I might have been too quick
[11:51] <Tm_T> tsimpson: but thus far he hasn't answered my pm
[11:52] <tsimpson> Tm_T: either way, they have now had sufficient warning :)
[11:53] <Tm_T> you might like to watch their language, I'm supposed to be doing something totally else
[11:53] <tsimpson> Tm_T: I'm also attempting to do a million things here, but if I get a highlight I'll act
[11:54] <Tm_T> nazi calling, for instance? (;
[11:54] <tsimpson> yes, I have that word on highlight too :)
[11:54] <Tm_T> good
[12:19] <gnomefreak> is the bot down?
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ok no its not
[12:19] <gnomefreak> i guess bot doesnt do (bug #) in -offtopic channels
[13:01] <jussi> gnomefreak: correct
[13:02] <gnomefreak> jussi: thanks tsimpson had gotten to me :)
[14:35] <elky> who was the one with the chloroform part message the other day?
[14:36] <elky> same guy
[14:36] <Pici> oCean iirc.
[14:36] <IdleOne> I think it was the same guy yeah
[14:36] <elky> did anyone talk to him yet?
[14:36] <IdleOne> not I
[16:01] <h00k> @login
[16:01] <h00k> @btlogin
[16:25] <h00k> d'aw, the sound factoid didn't get updated yet;)
[16:43] <gnomefreak> !sound
[16:43] <gnomefreak> looks ok to me but im running on very little sleep
[16:45] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: it should tell about pulseaudio, not alsa
[16:46] <gnomefreak> ah
[16:47] <gnomefreak> change !sound to !alsa and make one for !pulseaudio since you can still use alsa without PA
[16:47] <gnomefreak> would be my opinion
[16:47] <h00k> but you can't double click on the control applet anymore ;)
[16:48] <h00k> I suggested an update a while back but I'm too lazy to read my scrollback
[16:48] <gnomefreak> single click on control applet
[16:50] <h00k> my scrollback doesn't go up that far, brb
[16:51] <gnomefreak> if not done by tomorrow myabe ill have slept and ill change it if i remember
[16:54] <h00k> Ah, I suggested this:
[16:54] <h00k> !sound is If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[19:00] <Pici> !sound
[20:54] <Pici> maco: you must have some intresting things on hilight in #ubuntu
[20:54] <maco> Pici: i have "girl" and "girls" on highlight
[20:54] <maco> the other day this resulted in being pinged into a spice girls convo in #ubuntu-community-team
[20:54] <Pici> scary
[20:55] <Pici> maco: I was just about to reply in #u and *poof* there you are.
[20:55] <maco> heh
[20:56] <maco> i actually have those highlight rules because of -ot
[20:56] <maco> wanted to be notified when "hot girl" and "girls are stupid" conversations come up
[20:58] <Pici> maco: now you get to clean up after mentioning that channel in #ubuntu.  I really wish I was joking.
[20:59] <maco> actually last few times ive pointed people to it in #ubuntu, i braced myself for a storm and it didnt come
[20:59] <Pici> Really? Thats good.
[20:59] <maco> i used to PM people to tell them about it but getting permission to PM without telling them why is a bit tough :P
[20:59] <maco> and "because you're a chick" is sure to result in "ew no, you creep!"
[21:11] <topyli> maco, you actually don't have to feel responsible for all that though you know, other ops can also smell stupid talk :)
[21:35] <maco> topyli: have you been reading -ot?
[21:36] <topyli> maco, no, went out to get food and for a smoke
[21:36]  * maco lols at your kick message
[21:46] <Tm_T> ...I silenced -lts discussion in ML ?
[21:48] <topyli> Tm_T, you may have sort of wrapped it up :)
[21:50] <Tm_T> then I succeeded
[21:50] <Tm_T> splitting up our support channel just for few questions is pure nonsense
[21:54] <Tm_T> ok, good night all
[22:18] <jussi> o/
[22:18]  * jussi is somewhat tired, should sleep soon
[22:22] <topyli> jussi, working hard! good :)
[22:22] <jussi> lol
[22:36] <txwikinger> jussi is not working hard.. he is sleeping secretly in the sessions and just waits for the food :)
[22:37] <jussi> txwikinger: sssh!
[22:40] <topyli> txwikinger, oh he's actually in the sessions? that's a new record! :)
[22:41] <txwikinger> topyli: I have no idea.. I think I heard him in one today.. I saw him in a couple at the last UDS too
[22:42]  * txwikinger wants video streaming to track if jussi is in sessions
[22:42] <jussi> lol
[22:43] <jussi> I swear there were a lot of people asleep in the Qt on ARM session
[22:43] <tsimpson> well it was the first day
[22:51] <jussi> bed time ->