[00:37] <ooze> mr_pouit: incase your still around.. do you know if there is anyway to force xfce to pull from xdg on every boot?  I would like to remove saved profiles.. so every boot is generic
[05:02] <muchosoft> hola, alguien habla español?
[05:04] <muchosoft> someone speak spanish?
[05:07] <muchosoft> someone reply me? ¬¬
[06:35] <allyourbass> just updated to 10.04 via update manager, what happened to the "shared folders" menu option? I want to admin my samba shares, has this been moved somewhere else?
[06:37] <mr_pouit> ooze: delete the config in $HOME, and it'll take the one from $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS
[06:42] <owen1> after i upgraded to lucid, i can't login. i see a wallpaper, the mouse is responding, keyboard is not and no login screen shows up. i can, however ssh to my machine. any tips?
[06:43] <allyourbass> owen1, can you switch to a virtual terminal, does the caps lock light turn on when you press the caps key?
[07:40] <visitor1> i have just installed xubuntu 10.04 and have now problems with thunar wich just hangs when i want to browse a hdd
[07:40] <visitor1> but only with the option detailed view!
[07:41] <gottto> yep that's abug - try the compact view to get where you need to go then do detailed
[07:42] <gottto> s/abug/a bug
[07:43] <visitor1> rather annyoing, is it know to the developer? is there going to be a update to fix it?
[07:44] <gottto> been known for a little while and for sure it will be fixed
[07:44] <visitor1> ok thanks gottto
[07:45] <gottto> np :]
[07:54] <Besogon> When wil we get next release of xfce?
[07:58] <Besogon> I don't like xfce 4.6 because of it has no menu editor at all. It's so litle thing but I sure we all miss it.
[08:00] <Sysi> xfce dev team is a bit down
[08:00] <Sysi> it contains about 2 persons :/
[08:01] <gottto> bugger me but they must work hard at it...
[08:01] <Besogon> It feels
[08:02] <gottto> how many lines of code in a whole desktop environment? ...
[08:02] <MalkavianManiac> more than one
[08:04] <Besogon> I heard that Canonical sponosored lxde... Why don't they support xfce then? It's more known be common...
[08:05] <Besogon> vy common
[08:05] <Besogon> by common
[08:05] <Besogon> D
[09:37] <visitor1> what does this application do? gam_server
[09:37] <visitor1> it just needs a lot of cpu
[09:38] <charlie-tca> it maintains a database of files
[09:42] <visitor1> what for? i mean its running constantly
[09:48] <mr_pouit> file monitoring
[09:54] <visitor1> http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/gam-server/#post-247296
[09:54] <visitor1> i turned it off
[10:05] <jarnos> My 10.04 boot occasionally freezes during the display of the xubuntu logo.
[10:07] <hatake_kakashi> I'd turn off the splash stuff and see where it freezes, of course not a guaranteed method but when it freezes and you have that set, you will see where it freezes
[10:08] <visitor1> how can i remove the verve command line from the panel?
[10:08] <hatake_kakashi> right click on the verve command line and click remove
[10:08] <hatake_kakashi> or remove from panel
[10:08] <visitor1> nope there comes a terminal menu
[10:09] <hatake_kakashi> hmm try opening up add new items and drag'n'drop the verve command line
[10:10] <visitor1> doesnt work also
[10:10] <syn-ack> visitor1, you see the command line right
[10:10] <jarnos> hatake_kakashi: In "Session and Startup" I have already "None" selected for Splash. Still I see splash screen in boot.
[10:11] <visitor1> yes syn-ack
[10:11] <syn-ack> right there on the left "line" of the context box, try to get the cursor like 1 pixel to the left of that and right click
[10:11] <hatake_kakashi> jarnos, I don't use that, I'd go directly to the grub's (or in your case, possibly grub2's) configuration file and remove it from the kernel line
[10:11] <syn-ack> visitor1, where the context ends is *really* hard to see
[10:11] <visitor1> lol syn-ack , i managed it, thanks
[10:13] <syn-ack> I ran into that lastnight myself and spent something like 455 mins to an hour trying to get it just right
[10:18] <visitor1> how can i start mc with full screen option?
[10:28] <visitor1> hmm deosnt seem to be so easy
[10:29] <visitor1> no mc --full-screen
[11:11] <jarnos> hatake_kakashi: That would work for certain kernel, but once new kernel is updated, or grub other wise updated, I'd have to do it again. Besides grub2 tells you shouldn't edit the grub.cfg file.
[11:13] <hatake_kakashi> jarnos, its mainly for debugging purposes, or if you have a better solution in mind to figure out exactly where is the problem rather than leaving helpers `stabbing in the dark'
[11:13] <charlie-tca> jarnos: remove splash from /etc/default/grub configuration file
[11:14] <charlie-tca> When the new kernel is put in, that does not put it back, unless you choose to allow a new file to be written specifically
[11:24] <subspider> good morning to evryone
[11:24] <subspider> :D
[11:25] <jarnos> charlie-tca: thanks
[11:25] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[11:46] <azareth> hi, my ubuntu hangs on loading "/scripts/init-bottom", but I could find that file/directory on the flash drive, can someone help me?
[13:11] <jarnos> Strange, as I pressed Ctrl-Alt-Del to lock screen in 9.10, it rebooted. Usually it locks.
[15:08] <_6i> hi everyone
[15:09] <_6i> i have a problem regarding grub2
[15:13] <_6i> after shutdown and sometimes reboot, too, i dont get to the boot menu, but instead to the grub console - if i do the "set root=...;linux...;initrd...;boot" procedure, i can boot fine, but i would like to get that boot menu... (ubuntu version: lucid, dual-boot with winxp, xp was first, ubuntu wa sinstalled afterwards)
[15:14] <_6i> i've tried to reinstall grub, and the whole os and still the problem remains
[15:50] <jarnos> _6i: check /etc/default/grub
[15:51] <_6i> well, just defaults there..
[15:52] <_6i> the problem is that sometimes the boot menu shows, sometimes not
[15:52] <_6i> and i'm thrown to the grub console instead
[15:52] <jarnos> _6i: do you press any key?
[15:52] <_6i> no
[15:53] <jarnos> _6i: try asking in #grub.
[15:54] <_6i> when i shutdown, i always get the console, when i restart, if the shutdown animation is shown, then console, if just text information about the restart in progress, then i got the bootmenu afterwards
[15:54] <Sysi> !grub
[15:54] <Sysi> !grub2
[15:55] <_6i> well, after readin that, a could boot to ubuntu, if i enter the root, kernel and initrd settings manually..
[15:56] <_6i> but didn't find help there to check what the problem is
[15:56] <_6i> tried to reinstall grub and the os, too
[15:56] <_6i> but the problem remained
[15:56] <Sysi> that souds like bug maybe
[15:57] <_6i> i didn't even find similar problems on the forums or using google in general..
[15:58] <_6i> but thanks for trying to help
[15:58] <_6i> ..at least someone..
[16:07] <jarnos> _6i: maybe some BIOS issue?
[16:09] <gharz> hey guys, i've just installed xubuntu thru wubi. why is it that the ntfs partition was not automatically mounted on xfce unlike in ubuntu??? how do i do this?
[16:10] <gharz> guys, how do i mount my windows partition on xubuntu? ubuntu automatically mounts other ntfs partition. how do i do this?
[16:10] <gharz> xubuntu doesn't mount them automatically? do i really need to update my fstab?
[16:11] <gharz> anyone?
[16:11] <Sysi> !ask
[16:11] <gharz> !ntfs
[16:12] <gharz> !FUSE
[16:12] <gharz> !NTFS-3g
[16:12] <Sysi> !inspection
[16:12] <Sysi> baf..
[16:13] <Sysi> you can talk to bot in query
[16:22] <_6i> jarnos: someone on #grub asked if my BIOS have a limit on how far into a large drive it can read, because if so then on some kernel upgrades the grub.cfg may be written within that limit, and on other outside it. He said, I can usually check this by looking at your BIOS menu and seeing how large it lists the drive as being, or when it fails instead of running "linux... initrd... boot" run "configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg" and i'l
[16:22] <_6i> l see an "out of disk" error if that is the problem i'm having. But if the console is shown, and i run "configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg", the bootmenu shows up, and everything boots fine.
[16:22] <charlie-tca> You told him that, right?
[16:24] <_6i> charlie-tca: you ask me?
[16:25] <charlie-tca> yes
[16:28] <_6i> charlie-tca: told whom what?
[16:29] <charlie-tca> told the guy in #grub - But if the console is shown, and i run "configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg", the bootmenu shows up, and everything boots fine.
[16:29] <_6i> yeah
[16:30] <_6i> he said:  can't think of anything that could cause this problem. Do you get any error messages when the menu fails to load?
[16:30] <_6i> i said, no, just the grub console loads instead of the bootmenu
[16:31] <_6i> GNU GRUB version 1.98-1ubuntu6 \n\n Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions. \n\n grub> _
[16:31] <charlie-tca> After a failure, check /var/log/dmesg  or /var/log/bootlog  for errors?
[16:33] <_6i> charlie-tca: that was all i got without any warning or error messages instead of the boot menu (i'll check the logs in a sec)
[16:33] <_6i> (no answer from the guy in #grub since :) )
[16:36] <_6i> charlie-tca: btw, those logs aren't for the problems regarding the ubuntu startup stage (could it even contain regarding grub which runs before even the os is selected to boot?..)
[16:37] <charlie-tca> bootlog should even show the os selected
[16:37] <charlie-tca> You may have to turn on boot logging in /etc/default/bootlog
[16:43] <_6i> charlie-tca: nothing in /var/log/boot, /var/log/boot.log has 7 lines and starts with "fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2", /var/log/bootstrap.log shows only some dpkg dependency issues but not errors
[16:45] <charlie-tca> Sorry, I don't know anything else to try. bios is not limiting you, right? I do have a machine here that does something similar, if I try to install on a SATA drive with the IDE drive empty
[16:45] <_6i> charlie-tca: /var/log/dmesg also shows just things after the selected os started to boot
[16:47] <_6i> charlie-tca:  the weird thing is, that sometimes when rebooting, the bootmenu loads, but usually don't
[16:48] <charlie-tca> Turn the menu on in /etc/default/grub, just comment the line - #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[16:48] <charlie-tca> That should turn it on full time
[16:48] <charlie-tca> Maybe that will fix it, even?
[16:48]  * charlie-tca shooting in the dark, now
[16:50] <_6i> charlie-tca: sorry, it has always been commented out
[16:51] <_6i> (btw, thanx for trying)
[16:51] <charlie-tca> Do you have more than one install of ubuntu/xubuntu on the system?
[16:51] <charlie-tca> I have to wonder if there is not another menu taking over sometime
[16:52] <_6i> no, just 1 winxp, and i installed an ubuntu lucid afterwards (it's also updated)
[16:52] <charlie-tca> run 'sudo update-grub' in a terminal, sometimes that does straighten it out
[16:52] <arthurjohnson> This is interesting, when I switch on twinview the panel is spanning the desktops.  I really don't want it doing tat.
[16:53] <charlie-tca> yup, it does
[16:53] <arthurjohnson> It didn't used to do that
[16:53] <_6i> (after install (which was some hours before) i ran "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade")
[16:53] <charlie-tca> !xrandr
[16:53] <charlie-tca> _6i: still try running the grub update, sometimes it doesn't update it right
[16:54] <arthurjohnson> No, actually xrandr doesn't work with my nvidia card, its a twinview card
[16:54] <_6i> i've done that a couple of time before: no error, the problem stays
[16:54] <arthurjohnson> xrandr only shows one screen.
[16:54] <_6i> charlie-tca: i've done that a couple of time before: no error, the problem stays
[16:55] <charlie-tca> _6i: my brain is empty now
[16:55] <charlie-tca> arthurjohnson: I thought twin-view no longer worked, but I am probably wrong
[16:55] <_6i> charlie-tca: mine is overwhelmed and clueless :)
[16:55] <arthurjohnson> charlie-tca: Its configured in the NVIDIA X Server Settings
[16:56] <arthurjohnson> charlie-tca: Its part of the nvidia proprietary drivers
[16:56] <charlie-tca> Doesn't that make me right about being wrong?
[16:57] <arthurjohnson> heh
[16:57] <charlie-tca> :-)
[16:57] <arthurjohnson> Ungh, this is annoying.  Windows are appearing between screens.
[16:58] <arthurjohnson> The main problem with the way this is running is I have two different monitors with different target resolutions.  The panel isn't showing up in the span.
[16:59] <_6i> charlie-tca: what can it mean, that after a shutdown, it always shows the console, but when just restarting, sometimes the bootmenu is shown
[16:59] <charlie-tca> _6i: it is a bug, if it is not shutting all the way down. Check your bios options, for ACPI.
[17:01] <_6i> charlie-tca: it shuts down allright, but then, when i turn it on again, the console s shown charlie-tca: instead of the menu, but when i set the path to the menu, the menu shows up ("grub> configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg")
[17:02] <_6i> charlie-tca: it shuts down allright, but then, when i turn it on again, the console is shown instead of the menu, but when i set the path to the menu, the menu shows up ("grub> configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg")
[17:02] <charlie-tca> set the path where?
[17:03] <_6i> in grub console (which starts instead of the boot menu)
[17:03] <_6i> if i run "configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg" there, the bootmenu loads allright
[17:03] <charlie-tca> Do you have to select the grub menu from a windows menu, by chance?
[17:03] <_6i> no
[17:04] <charlie-tca> I "think" it has something to do with windows, instead of grub
[17:04] <_6i> after the bios startup stuff i get the console or the bootmenu rightaway
[17:04] <charlie-tca> Somehow, windows is getting things confused
[17:05] <_6i> why windows?
[17:05] <_6i> it wasn't even started in a while
[17:05] <charlie-tca> dual boot, right?
[17:05] <_6i> it didn't have the opportunity to screw up anything
[17:05] <charlie-tca> windows is messing with the mbr and grub setup
[17:06] <charlie-tca> windows always takes over if there is any way possible
[17:08] <_6i> charlie-tca:  again, then: in the beginning, there was winxp, then i installed lucid, updated it, restarted, got the bootmenu, went straight to ubuntu, shutdown, poweron, grub console instead of the bootmenu
[17:08] <_6i> charlie-tca: win didn't have a chance to interfere
[17:08] <charlie-tca> But that doesn't mean a windows update didn't screw things up, does it? ;-(
[17:09] <_6i> yes it does, because since the lucid install, win has not been started
[17:09] <_6i> so not updates there..
[17:10]  * charlie-tca gives full-disclosure: no windows here, don't really like windows, thinks microsoft wants to over write grub
[17:10] <charlie-tca> I'm sorry then. I am out of ideas again.
[17:11]  * charlie-tca also thinks windows belong in the wall of the house, not the computer
[17:12] <_6i> sometimes it really could, but since it didn't get the chance to do that, it couldn't (not a single byte of windows could have been executed, since it was never started from the grub bootmenu, therfore, it could not rewrite anything, since it did not ruan)
[17:12] <_6i> *run
[17:14] <_6i> charlie-tca: yeah, well, didn't like it either very much, but evidence shows (according to me), that it couldn't have commited the crime this time...sadly..
[17:15]  * arthurjohnson hasn't used Windows outside VirtualBox since 1998
[17:16] <jarnos> arthurjohnson: doesn't VirtualBox make it slow?
[17:16] <arthurjohnson> Not Windows XP
[17:16] <arthurjohnson> I mostly use it to watch VirtualBox.
[17:16] <charlie-tca> huh?
[17:17] <arthurjohnson> of course, the machine I do this on is a dual core with 2 gigs of RAM on Xubuntu, so plenty of resources ;)
[17:17] <arthurjohnson> Er,  I mean Netflix
[17:17]  * charlie-tca didn't know VBox was that good a show ;-)
[17:18] <arthurjohnson> I used to use it to sync my daughter's iPod Touch, but with Lucid I can sync her iPod Touch over USB and GTK Pod
[17:19] <arthurjohnson> And every once in a while I run across something that needs Windows.  Not usually, but every once in a while.
[17:19] <charlie-tca> I haven't needed windows since 1998
[17:21] <arthurjohnson> Now that Netflix streams to my Wii, I don't even watch netflix that much on my vbox.
[17:23] <arthurjohnson> Okay, this is downright strange.
[17:24] <arthurjohnson> If I save the twinview configuration, and reboot, the panels stay where they belong, and windows appear where they are supposed to.
[17:24] <ooseiso> im trying to disable touchpad tapping permanently. I downloaded GPointingDeviceSettings and disabled tapping but every time i reboot its back.
[17:24] <charlie-tca> Isn't that what you want?
[17:24] <charlie-tca> !synaptic
[17:24] <arthurjohnson> No, I used to run nvidia settings and turn on twinview when I needed the extra montior
[17:25] <arthurjohnson> Which isn't all that often.
[17:25] <charlie-tca> !touchpad
[17:25] <charlie-tca> ooseiso: ^^
[17:25] <arthurjohnson> Meh, I can leav it on I guess.
[17:26] <ooseiso> so yeah, i dont want to disable the touchpad just the tapping.
[17:26] <arthurjohnson> The second monitor usually sits under my desk until I need it, which isn't all that often.
[17:26] <arthurjohnson> ooseiso: I typically just use touchfreeze
[17:27] <colbyz> hi...i want to install xubuntu lucid, dual boot with windows vista....i have read about a last minute bug....what can i do now?
[17:28] <charlie-tca> What last minute bug? don't have answers without the facts
[17:28] <ooseiso> that looks like its for windows and further only disables tapping when your typing. "disable touchpad tapping permanently" lots of things tell me how to turn it off, but it never stays off.
[17:29] <colbyz> The problem  affected the bootloader and made it impossible for a dual-boot user to switch back to Windows once Ubuntu was installed.
[17:30] <charlie-tca> And was fixed before the final release?
[17:30] <charlie-tca> I guess I would suggest reading the release notes referenced in the topic
[17:30] <colbyz> no
[17:31] <charlie-tca> bug number?
[17:31] <colbyz> they say "Installing the available updates and rebooting will fix this issue,"
[17:32] <charlie-tca> Okay, so "yes, it is fixed"
[17:32] <colbyz> i dont know man...i am newbie
[17:32] <colbyz> ok...good...thanks
[17:33] <charlie-tca> Make sure the image / cd you use is dated april 29, though
[17:33] <colbyz> ohh...i see now
[17:38] <ooseiso> im trying to disable touchpad tapping permanently. I downloaded GPointingDeviceSettings and disabled tapping but every time i reboot its back.
[17:48] <ooseiso> I'm trying to disable touchpad tapping permanently. I downloaded GPointingDeviceSettings and disabled tapping but every time I reboot its back.
[18:01] <charlie-tca> !patience > UbuntuIsInept
[19:20] <arthurjohnson> hey, check this out:  http://is.gd/c31xB
[19:20] <arthurjohnson> Hasn't bugged me, the default timeout, but if it needs to be changed
[19:20] <arthurjohnson> thats the way to change notify-osd to a lower timeframe
[19:27] <charlie-tca> Now if I could just change the color as easy... ;-)
[20:36] <TheBase> hello
[20:36] <TheBase> I've been using linux for years now and surprisingly I have to set up the JAVA_HOME with every new distribution. Does anybody knows why JAVA_HOME doesn't get configured automatically when the java package is installed?
[20:41] <danutzmilea> can anyone help me with my xubutu? i keep getting logged out after i log in... i suspect it's just after xfwm4 starts
[20:42] <danutzmilea> anyone at all
[20:48] <TheBase> is that a new installation?
[20:49] <TheBase> Go to text mode and check the log files. See if you find any errors
[20:49] <TheBase> Try Ctrl+Alt+F1 to go to text mode
[20:50] <danutzmilea> well i already restarted a bunch of times
[20:50] <TheBase> during the login screen
[20:50] <TheBase> restarting won't help
[20:50] <danutzmilea> the thing is i was playing with the window style thingy from xfce
[20:50] <TheBase> there is probably something broken
[20:50] <danutzmilea> and it broke
[20:51] <TheBase> that's what I was gonna ask
[20:51] <danutzmilea> so.. i logged in using that "xfce" mode...
[20:51] <danutzmilea> with just the terminal
[20:51] <TheBase> did you try to install any 3D stuff?
[20:51] <danutzmilea> and started all this manually
[20:51] <danutzmilea> nu
[20:51] <danutzmilea> no*
[20:51] <danutzmilea> just tried changing window styles
[20:51] <danutzmilea> anyway, i managed to start xfdesktop from terminal
[20:51] <danutzmilea> and xfwm4
[20:52] <danutzmilea> however, if i start xfwm4 first then xfdesktop it logs out
[20:52] <TheBase> try to reverse the changes you did to the window style
[20:52] <danutzmilea> any thoughts on that?
[20:52] <danutzmilea> i tried
[20:52] <TheBase> actually before trying stuff have a look in the log files
[20:52] <danutzmilea> but apparently xfdesktop is not the same as xubuntu-desktop
[20:52] <danutzmilea> :-?
[20:53] <TheBase> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:53] <TheBase> look for some error on it
[20:54] <TheBase> see if xfce uses any other log file
[20:54] <danutzmilea> just one
[20:54] <danutzmilea> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
[20:54] <danutzmilea> 	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
[20:54] <danutzmilea> 	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[20:54] <TheBase> you might have to reinstall the window manager package
[20:54] <danutzmilea> i did that already
[20:54] <TheBase> that's not an error
[20:55] <TheBase> grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:55] <danutzmilea> reinstalled xfwm, xubuntu-desktop and xfwm-themes
[20:55] <danutzmilea> from the synaptic package manager thingy
[20:55] <TheBase> try asking on #xfce too
[20:55] <danutzmilea> i did
[20:55] <TheBase> what do you get with grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[20:56] <danutzmilea> a guy told me to move some config files
[20:56] <danutzmilea> i was just about to restart
[20:56] <mr_pouit> danutzmilea: it broke when setting a theme?
[20:56] <danutzmilea> yeah
[20:56] <danutzmilea> well, not a theme
[20:56] <danutzmilea> a window style
[20:56] <TheBase> make sure that when you reinstall the packages you "completely remove" the package. Otherwise it will keep the configuration files
[20:57] <danutzmilea> 	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[20:57] <danutzmilea> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[20:57] <danutzmilea> hmm.. didnt COMPLETELY remove though
[20:57] <danutzmilea> :-?
[20:57] <danutzmilea> i'll try that after restart
[20:57] <mr_pouit> danutzmilea: check that in $HOME/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfwm4.xml, the 'theme' property is not empty
[20:58] <TheBase> ok
[20:59] <danutzmilea> <property name="theme" type="string" value="Wildbush"/>
[20:59] <danutzmilea> i think i might be able to edit this
[20:59] <danutzmilea> and revert to the theme i had
[20:59] <danutzmilea> :-?
[20:59] <mr_pouit> try to put Albatross
[21:00] <danutzmilea> yeah, that's what i was thinking :D
[21:01] <danutzmilea> ok, i'll restart now :)
[21:01] <danutzmilea> see if it worked
[21:03] <danutzmilea> ok, i'm back
[21:04] <danutzmilea> worked like a charm
[21:04] <danutzmilea> thanks a whole lot!
[21:06] <TheBase> lol
[21:06] <TheBase> :)
[21:06] <TheBase> bug report!
[21:08] <danutzmilea> Yeah, how do I do that?
[21:10] <TheSheep> !bugs
[21:12] <danutzmilea> damn, i'm really lost
[21:33] <TheBase> I'm off
[21:33] <TheBase> laters
[22:12] <Aquina> 'lo
[22:17] <invite> hello everyone
[22:17] <invite> is this english speaking ?
[22:17] <invite> or french
[22:17] <acerimmer_> invite: very low usage on this channel.
[22:17] <invite> and ....
[22:17] <invite> ok.
[22:17] <invite> well...
[22:18] <invite> thx anyways
[22:18] <acerimmer_> !fr> invite
[22:19] <invite> acerimmer_ : thx, and anyways, i dont mind speaking english
[22:19] <invite> just that on #ubuntu, nobody seems to listen (too crowded a channel I feel...)
[22:20] <filip_> hi all
[22:20] <invite> hi filip_
[22:21] <filip_> i bought today laptop IBM R60, and installed xubuntu
[22:21] <invite> I got jammed with this xubuntu upgrade : no longer do I log in normally
[22:21] <invite> default automatic user seems to be forcing its way
[22:21] <invite> wonder why
[22:22] <filip_> I'm newbie in linux, can anyone explain me how install intlel GMA 950?
[22:22] <filip_> drivers ofcourse
[22:24] <invite> sorry, but I doubt I could help you
[22:24] <invite> r u french speaking ?
[22:24] <filip_> no, only english, litttle german and very little arabic.
[22:25] <invite> ok
[22:25] <invite> it's just that I found recently that there is a good french tutorial, that's why I was asking
[22:26] <invite> dont know about english equivalent but there must be !
[22:27] <filip_> hmm, could we translate this tutorial by google translate?
[22:28] <invite> why not
[22:31] <invite> lost my way to that page
[22:31] <invite> dammit !
[22:33] <filip_> hmm i found and download xorg.conf for my graphic card, if i put it on my x11 folder it will be right?
[22:35] <invite> gee...
[22:35] <invite> cant help you with this
[22:38] <filip_> ok, thank you. you try :)
[22:38] <filip_> bye
[23:21] <TNuser311> hello I'm having a problem with my screen, it is cutting off the bottom of the desktop so I can't see the lower bar, Can anyone help me fix this.  TY!