[00:21] <seattlegaucho> does anyone know why the  ~/.xsession-errors became so verbose after moving to Lucid?
[00:21] <seattlegaucho> ie: now it records every keyboard short cut I press (ie: Alt+Tab to switch windows)
[00:22] <seattlegaucho> ... among other useless info
[00:25] <AnnaZ> at least it's not gigabyte per hour sized like a couple of years ago...
[00:25] <AnnaZ> which happened when you didn't have a serial wacom plugged in -.-
[00:45] <seattlegaucho> AnnaZ: I'm more worried about catching real messages among the spam ... karmic was OK ... not sure why and upgrade has to triple the noise
[00:45] <seattlegaucho> *an
[00:50] <Zorael> In which package are Konqueror's debugging symbols?
[01:05] <Zorael> (kdebase-dbg)
[01:13] <ubuntu> hello everyone
[01:14] <ubuntu> in my laptop the keyboard does not work when loged in kde, but works when logged in console mode, can anyone help me to solve this problem
[01:29] <endimion> hello world
[01:30] <Typos_King> allo :P
[01:31] <endimion> so I have been having an issue lately.... I'm using an external amplifier linked through USB it's working OS side and with every apps integrated to KDE
[01:31] <endimion> but not the rest e.g. firefox, vlc, etc
[01:32] <AnnaZ> aaah k.
[01:33] <AnnaZ> i suppose #alsa will help you there.
[01:33] <Typos_King> endimion:   not having an amplifier hooked here myself, can't say :|
[01:33] <AnnaZ> do you mean an external soundcard?
[01:34] <endimion> nah an harman/kardon audio video receiver
[01:35] <AnnaZ> ehr and what function exactly is it performing?
[01:35] <AnnaZ> do you have audio connection going to it or usb only?
[01:37] <endimion> USB only it's made for it.... you know it's one of those home theatre amplifier.... USB is the best connection I cangetbut not the rest e.g. firefox, vlc, etcwithbut not the rest e.g. firefox, vlc, etcmybut not the rest e.g. firefox, vlc, etcdinobut not the rest e.g. firefox, vlc, etclaptop
[01:37] <endimion> oups
[01:37] <AnnaZ> so it IS a soundcard.
[01:37] <AnnaZ> ok further in alsa :)
[01:37] <endimion> sorry some keyboard   issue
[02:02] <daweed> hello
[02:02] <daweed> how is it going?
[02:03] <daweed> i have a problem with k3b it is not writing my dvds
[02:04] <ubuntu> anyone there
[02:04] <AnnaZ> no
[02:04] <ubuntu> hmmm
[02:05] <Henry_BR> hi, i have installed subversion and I need the local where it is... to write this adhress in netbeans. could you help me? thanks
[02:06] <daweed> it say erasing fail
[02:13] <wllkmbll> I'm having trouble installing a plugin for GIMP. It has instructions for install, but it's really "linux-wordy" and I can't understand it. The instructions are on http://registry.gimp.org/node/20494. Can someone simplify it for me?
[02:16] <AnnaZ> daweed: i suppose you didn't give yourself permissions somewhere.
[02:17] <daweed> hello did any one know what is a emovix0 on k3d?
[02:18] <daweed> AnnaZ:  what do you mind?
[02:19] <AnnaZ> there's k3bsetup tool. you'll want to add yourself to the group cdrom, not burning.
[02:20] <AnnaZ> or you could sudo k3b and burn as root. that should work.
[02:20] <AnnaZ> or you could chown the sub-app that is failing.
[02:21] <genii> "erasing fail" sounds like you are trying to wipe an eraseable disc
[02:22] <AnnaZ> or well k3bsetup will pretty much do the last thing if you don't give it a group.
[02:23] <daweed> ok letme check
[02:24] <AnnaZ> ehr i don't mean chown, i mean suid -.- sry
[02:24] <AnnaZ> but yeah you don't have to do it manually.
[02:24] <AnnaZ> also there's this anti-suid policy around -.-
[02:28] <daweed> i found a setings that says setup system permisions and i click on the group of the permisions and it says that usea a bunrning grup and when i click there say that there is not grup burning
[02:30] <daweed> what can i do im new with linux can you helpme?
[02:31] <AnnaZ> daweed. i told you to type in cdrom instead of burning into the group.
[02:31] <AnnaZ> it's an ubuntuism *cough*
[02:31] <daweed> AnnaZ: ok ok
[02:33] <lovre> hi all. i cant seem to get any change in video brightness, not with dragon player, not with mplayer (smplayer).... Why is this? Equalizer just gets ignored in video..
[02:34] <daweed> AnnaZ:  i type cdrom and it acept the option but still not burning
[02:34] <AnnaZ> mhm pity daweed. :/
[02:35] <daweed> AnnaZ:  what is pity?
[02:41] <daweed> what is xfce?
[02:43] <victux> hi
[02:44] <victux> i'm from Brazil
[02:45] <mase_wk> hi victux
[04:26] <Saintly> hey all, been a good while eh
[04:27] <mrdaweed> hi
[04:27] <mrdaweed> hello
[04:27] <mrdaweed> how is it going?
[04:27] <mrdaweed> i have some troble
[04:27] <Saintly> mrdaweed:  talk to me
[04:29] <Saintly> ?
[04:31] <mrdaweed> Saintly:  tnks im runing now in the live from cd cuz i cant log now from my hd
[04:32] <mrdaweed> Saintly:  when i start to log when i login say that /tmp cant write or somting like that
[04:32] <Saintly> whats the trouble, are you getting an error at all.?
[04:32] <Saintly> ahh
[04:32] <Saintly> and you have installed fresh to your hd?
[04:33] <mrdaweed> Saintly: cuz i was runing out of space and to make a compilation to dvd with devede need like 4gb and move some files to /tmp folder
[04:34] <Saintly> i c
[04:34] <mrdaweed> Saintly:  then after that and the restart i cant login
[04:34] <mrdaweed> Saintly: so i thougt that starting with live disck i could use the dolphin and delete the files
[04:34] <Saintly> hmm. let me see if this issue is unique, maybe somebody else has already solved it. brb mrdaweed.
[04:34] <mrdaweed> Saintly: but the acces is denide
[04:35] <mrdaweed> Saintly: tnks, so i want to know how to login and how to delete the files, i also dont know to work on the command line
[04:39] <Saintly> mrdaweed: let me get a lil more info. i assume youve already have used a previous form of kubuntu?
[04:41] <mrdaweed> used a previous from kubuntu? is previous is a software? or do you mind if i have work before with kubuntu? and im new on all linux im starting to lern and you might think that im a newbi and pls helpme step by step like 4 dummy
[04:41] <mrdaweed> Saintly: used a previous from kubuntu? is previous is a software? or do you mind if i have work before with kubuntu? and im new on all linux im starting to lern and you might think that im a newbi and pls helpme step by step like 4 dummy
[04:42] <mrdaweed> Saintly: and also im so sorry but english is not my first or main language
[04:42] <mrdaweed> Saintly: i apologiase if miss spell or if i cant understand anything
[04:43] <Saintly> mrdaweed: no problem man, i was a newbie once too.
[04:43] <Saintly> and english is a second language for me too, im italian.
[04:43] <Saintly> ;)
[04:44] <Saintly> alright, so you have not used linux, or kubuntu at all before this??
[04:44] <mrdaweed> Saintly:  you are very nice and im very welcome sometimes ive ask somthinks but i found no answare cuz like i think that the others think that im i kind of stuped or else like that
[04:45] <mrdaweed> Saintly:  well like a week count?
[04:45] <Saintly> mrdaweed: i know what you mean, same issues here. i ended up learning fast, and now i help people too.
[04:45] <Saintly> hmm
[04:45] <Saintly> mrdaweed: AND HOW DID YOU INSTALL KUBUNTU?
[04:45] <Saintly> sorry caps
[04:45] <mrdaweed> Saintly: ive download some software to burn a dvd from the downloaded videos of youtube
[04:46] <Saintly> alright
[04:46] <mrdaweed> Saintly:  i have some diferent cds of kubuntu and xubuntu
[04:46] <Saintly> and thats the live cd, that ur using right now?
[04:47] <mrdaweed> Saintly:  i guess that what you mind is abouth the partitions, so i have a partition to / another to home and other to SWAP
[04:47] <mrdaweed> Saintly: thats for linux kubuntu and 4 windows i have 1 ntfs for data and i ntfs for os
[04:48] <mrdaweed> Saintly: and the partitions of the kubuntu are level4
[04:48] <mrdaweed> ext4
[04:48] <mrdaweed> Saintly:  and my home is not encripted
[04:49] <mrdaweed> Saintly: do you live on italy?
[04:49] <Saintly> yes, i do.
[04:49] <mrdaweed> Saintly: sorry if i bother asking thinks taht are not related is only to not get bored
[04:50] <Saintly> hmm i havent done partitions before, but from what i hear they are tricky. you might have to save all of your files and just delete a partitiion and start over.
[04:50] <mrdaweed> Saintly: my neigbors are fighting maybe i can see them how they fight
[04:50] <Saintly> ahh ask away. no problem with questions
[04:50] <Saintly> mrdaweed: lol
[04:51] <mrdaweed> yes but how can i save all my data on k3b in a dvd?
[04:51] <mrdaweed> Saintly: yes but how can i save all my data on k3b in a dvd?
[04:52] <Saintly> do you see anything within your system called "ubuntu One"
[04:52] <mrdaweed> Saintly: why do you start with linux? or you were born on linux?
[04:52] <mrdaweed> Saintly: where i should find ununtu one? on the dolphy?
[04:53] <Saintly> its a "online hard drive" comes free with ubntu versions. if it isnt on your dolphin, itll beonline, just google it.
[04:55] <mrdaweed> Saintly: letme sendyou a snapshot
[04:55] <Saintly> kk
[04:55] <mrdaweed> Saintly: but how?
[04:56] <Saintly>  my email is saintlysacrifice@gmail.com send t there.
[04:59] <Ms_Angel_D> Hello, is there anyone here who can help me, My screensaver won't come on
[05:01] <DarthFrog> Ms_Angel_D: You don't really need screensavers any more.
[05:01] <DarthFrog> Ms_Angel_D: Especially if you have a LCD monitor.
[05:02] <Ms_Angel_D> Well DarthFrog whether I need them or not I would like one
[05:02] <DarthFrog> Ms_Angel_D: :-)  Ok.  Have you gone through the System Settings tool?
[05:02] <Ms_Angel_D> DarthFrog: yes I looking through the power management settings and tried fiddling with it, but no good
[05:03] <Ms_Angel_D> *tried
[05:03] <DarthFrog> It's under Desktop in System Settings.
[05:03] <Ms_Angel_D> DarthFrog: seems nothing I do makes it come on, it's strange because they always worked fine before on other installs
[05:04] <Ms_Angel_D> DarthFrog: I have a screensaver set for 15 minutes, but I changed it to 1 minute for testing and still nothing
[05:04] <mrdaweed> hey did any one else can helpme was helpingme sainty but he left
[05:05] <DarthFrog> Ms_Angel_D: OK , well I just reached the end of my knowledge, sorry.
[05:05] <Ms_Angel_D> DarthFrog: aww ty anyway I apprieciate your trying ;)
[05:05] <DarthFrog> Ms_Angel_D: We try.  And I wish I could be of more help.
[05:06] <Ms_Angel_D> DarthFrog: guess I'll just keep googling for now...lol
[05:07] <mrdaweed> Ms_Angel_D: try to install or desinstall some software related to the screensaver
[05:08] <mrdaweed> i want to know how can i burn my files from other partitions
[05:08] <Ms_Angel_D> mrdaweed: yeah I was thinking about trying that just now as well
[05:10] <DarthFrog> mrdaweed: ???  What's the problem?  Are those partitions mounted?
[05:11] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: i can see the partitions on the dolhin but i can see the partitions on the k3b
[05:12] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: im runing from a live cd of kubuntu
[05:12] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog:   tnks im runing now in the live from cd cuz i cant log now from my hd
[05:12] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog:   when i start to log when i login say that /tmp cant write or somting like that
[05:13] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: cuz i was runing out of space and to make a compilation to dvd with devede need like 4gb and move some files to /tmp folder
[05:13] <DarthFrog> mrdaweed: Your typographical errors are confusing.
[05:14] <DarthFrog> mrdaweed: Do you have your /home directory on its own partition?
[05:14] <mrdaweed> im so sorry DarthFrog what i didint explain
[05:14] <DarthFrog> DarthFrog: i can see the partitions on the dolhin but i can see the partitions on the k3b
[05:14] <DarthFrog> Presumably one of those should be "can't".
[05:14] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: the home has its own partition
[05:16] <mrdaweed> ohh i want to burn my data to a dvd and i cant get it the folder to view the files of tmp say that the access is denide
[05:16] <mrdaweed> thats in dolphin
[05:16] <DarthFrog> Then press Alt-F2 and type "kdesu k3b".
[05:17] <mrdaweed> and in k3b i only can see the files of home and root frome the root of the cdroom where is nothing
[05:17] <DarthFrog> You'll have to mount the partitions.
[05:18] <mrdaweed> what is that command for?
[05:18] <mrdaweed> and the partitions i can see what is inside but only on dolphin
[05:18] <DarthFrog> Well, it's a sequence.
[05:19] <DarthFrog> What are the partitions that contain / and /home ?
[05:20] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: it send me to the permisions of k3b
[05:21] <mrdaweed> what should i do now?
[05:21] <DarthFrog> Don't care about that.  I need to know the names (i.e /dev/sda1 or some such) of the partitions.
[05:21] <mrdaweed> i have the / and the home of the cd and somewhere the other 2 partitions of ext4
[05:21] <mrdaweed> ok
[05:22] <DarthFrog> Don't care about the CD partitions.  I'm talking only about the hard drive.
[05:23] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: im trying to find that out but dont know where
[05:24] <mrdaweed> im looking on dolphin
[05:28] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: there are the partitions but i dont know the name of it like sda1
[05:30] <DarthFrog> How comfortable are you at the command line?
[05:31] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: the only command that i know in the command line is LS
[05:31] <DarthFrog> Can you follow instructions? :-)
[05:32] <mrdaweed> hahahhahaa :$
[05:32] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: YES SR
[05:32] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: Show me the way
[05:32] <DarthFrog> OK.  Press Alt-F2 and type "konsole".  At the command prompt, type "sudo -i" and give your password.
[05:33] <DarthFrog> Then type: mkdir /mnt/disk /mnt/disk1
[05:34] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog:  can i ask? or just folow the orders by now?
[05:34] <DarthFrog> Ask.  But follow what I said.
[05:35] <mrdaweed> root@ubuntu:~# is what it say
[05:35] <mrdaweed> not asking 4 pasword
[05:35] <DarthFrog> OK, that's fine.
[05:35] <DarthFrog> did you do the mkdir command?
[05:36] <DarthFrog> How many hard drives do you have?
[05:37] <mrdaweed> yes sr
[05:37] <mrdaweed> i have 1
[05:37] <mrdaweed> and have 2 ntfs partitions and 1 swap and 2 ext4
[05:37] <mrdaweed> i do the  mkdir /mnt/disk /mnt/disk1
[05:38] <DarthFrog> Ok, now we have to go exploring to find the ext4 partitions.  Be *very careful* with the following command.
[05:38] <mrdaweed> ok sr
[05:38] <DarthFrog> What ever you do, don't write any changes to disk - we just want info, is all.
[05:38] <mrdaweed> YES SR
[05:38] <mrdaweed> Roger
[05:38] <DarthFrog> type: cfdisk /dev/sda   and take note of which partitions are ext4 filesystems.
[05:39] <DarthFrog> Then press "q" to quit.
[05:40] <mrdaweed>  FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap
[05:40] <DarthFrog> Lovely.  Not.
[05:40] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: one of my ntfs partitions has some problems and i cant acces it
[05:41] <mrdaweed> WAITING FOR ORDERS SR.
[05:42] <DarthFrog> OK, instead of "cfdisk", type "fdisk /dev/sda".  Then press "p" to list partitions.  Once you know which partitions are ext4, press "q".
[05:45] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog:  SR sda7 are the / and sda8 are the /Home
[05:46] <DarthFrog> type "mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/disk"  then "mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/disk1".  Then type "mount" just to make sure the partitions are correctly mounted.
[05:49] <mrdaweed> /dev/sda8 on /media/disk-2 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[05:49] <mrdaweed> /dev/sda7 on /media/disk-1 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[05:49] <mrdaweed> /dev/sda7 on /mnt/disk type ext4 (rw)
[05:49] <mrdaweed> /dev/sda8 on /mnt/disk1 type ext4 (rw)
[05:50] <FloodBotK3> mrdaweed: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:50] <DarthFrog> If they are correctly mounted, type "df -h" which will tell you how much space is available on each partition.
[05:51] <DarthFrog> And k3b should see these partitions now.
[05:51] <DarthFrog> Are you OK now or do you need more help?
[05:52] <DarthFrog> You'll need to repeat the mkdir and mount commands if you reboot into the live CD again.
[05:52] <mrdaweed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/431487/
[05:53] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog:  i need to learn so much i want to be one day as you are thank you so much
[05:53] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: ill try with k3b
[05:54] <DarthFrog> mrdaweed: Well, I've been running Linux since 1994. :-)  I'm a Linux system consultant.
[05:54] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: im an it but im shame of myself like all of that o should already know
[05:55] <DarthFrog> mrdaweed: If you're serious, then spend as much time as you can at the command line.  Pick up a copy of the O'Reilly book "Linux In A Nutshell".
[05:55] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: i have like 1 week using linux
[05:55] <DarthFrog> The GUI hides things from you.  The command line is where the power and true understanding lies.
[05:56] <DarthFrog> One week?  And you could follow what I told you?  Well done!!
[05:56] <DarthFrog> Embrace the command line, don't fear it. :-)
[05:56] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: i start to learn the name of the programs yesterday i didint know what dolphin was until someone tellme that is like explorer but for kde
[05:57] <mrdaweed> today learn that ark is the software to unzip
[05:57] <DarthFrog> Umm, you'll probably be better served by using gunzip rather than ark.
[05:58] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: but god knows that 4 people like you linux has grow tnks so much and is that ok if i ask you later?
[05:58] <DarthFrog> Sure, if I'm around.
[05:58] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: a important cuestion
[05:59] <mrdaweed> well just to know do u still using windows?
[05:59] <DarthFrog> BTW, if you want (sometimes cryptic) instructions on any specific command "man <command>" is the tool to use.
[05:59] <DarthFrog> I've spent a lot of time and much effort avoiding learning anything about Windows.  I came to Linux from OS/2 (I loved that OS!).
[06:02] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog:  have you see that in windows are some unatended versions? with all the software what you need like office and tuneup utilities or god know what else but a lot of frograms in a dvd---------> is in linux a distribuition of somthing like that i dont want to be installing flash and devede and mplayer and other programs is a distribuition somewhere with all built in?
[06:03] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: still not seeing the others sda7 and 8
[06:04] <DarthFrog> You don't see /mnt/disk and /mnt/disk1?
[06:05] <mrdaweed> i see the partitions on dolphin but in k3b i can only see the cdroom home and /
[06:06] <DarthFrog> But to answer your question, I have Win7 installed for some games.  I very rarely run it as I've managed to get the games I care about (except Tropico 3) running in Kubuntu.
[06:07] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: but do you know a distribuition with flash and other usefull programs like as you say other better than ark
[06:08] <DarthFrog> Do you still have that Konsole window open?  If so, type "exit". then type "sudo k3b" and see if you can see the /mnt/ partitions now.
[06:09] <DarthFrog> Kubuntu or Ubuntu have everything you need, both now and in the future.
[06:09] <moetunes> mrdaweed: you should have a look at linux mint if you don't want open source software only
[06:11] <mrdaweed> this is the 5th time that i install a kind of ubuntu get a problem and it goes down and i know that for the time that we have trying to solve the problem maybe could be alrready install again and download the files most of them are just song but i want to learn on the way i have try to learn by tutorial one time but i found myself like i need to write it down and from today i will write it doorn all the instructions what you give me or other by now
[06:11] <mrdaweed> moetunes:  tnks i will
[06:11] <DarthFrog> mrdaweed: It really doesn't matter which distribution you pick.  But it does matter that you pick *one* and learn it.  Kubuntu/Ubuntu is an excellent choice.  If you think there's something missing, ask here cuz it probably isn't missing. :-)
[06:12] <bawww> Ubuntu with a K http://techhaze.com/2010/05/ubuntu-with-a-k/ ...good article on Kubuntu
[06:13] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: why on the bash have 2 sda7 and 2sda8
[06:13] <mrdaweed> ?
[06:14] <DarthFrog> mrdaweed: You've been with Linux a week and you're already running out of room?  Umm, methinks you made your partition(s) too small.
[06:15] <DarthFrog> How big are the /dev/sda7 and /dev/sda8 partitions?
[06:15] <mrdaweed> yes i make only like 10 gb 4 home and 10 for root cuz i was only testing
[06:15] <DarthFrog> 10 gig for root should be fine.
[06:15] <DarthFrog> In the short term.
[06:17] <mrdaweed> cuz i have a friend who like the porn a lot and always have trobles cuz still all day on the porn sites and get infected and no matter if i install a dns frome dyndns and nod32 and antispyware and even the frozzen the c: he still infected
[06:17] <mrdaweed> and i tell that linux is the solution
[06:17] <mrdaweed> so that was the reason way i start using linux ununtu and now in this week i feel much better
[06:17] <mrdaweed> cuz i start learning tinks again
[06:17] <DarthFrog> :-)
[06:18] <DarthFrog> There's lots to learn.  And once you start to get a handle on it, it gets a *lot* easier.
[06:18] <mrdaweed> i ve been like in a dommy state of ohh i know alot of windows and ive been stooke there
[06:20] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog:  do you know a software for a computer using linux i want to use it like a router with 5 out wan and 1 lan to balance the internet
[06:20] <DarthFrog> You can certainly do that.  But it's not a project for a novice.
[06:21] <DarthFrog> A 5-way multi-home?  Wow.  you're connected!! :-)
[06:23] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog:  but is there not a software to just load boot and just config the users and the macs?
[06:23] <DarthFrog> Probably.
[06:23] <DarthFrog> Hang on, let me have a look.
[06:24] <DarthFrog> Hmm, the Linux Router Project is defunct.
[06:24] <mrdaweed> tnks you frog of the wisdom
[06:24] <DarthFrog> http://www.freesco.info/
[06:24] <mrdaweed> im sorry what mind darth?
[06:25] <DarthFrog> Sorry, I didn't follow that.
[06:26] <DarthFrog> http://www.wifi.com.ar/english/cdrouter/
[06:27] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: the english is not my main of first language so im asking what mind DARTH of DarthFrog?
[06:27] <DarthFrog> http://coyotelinux.com/   <- I've used that one in the past.
[06:27] <DarthFrog> Ah.  Did you not see the "Star Wars" movies?
[06:32] <mrdaweed> yes of course
[06:32] <mrdaweed> and who is the DarthFrog on starwars?
[06:33] <DarthFrog> Well, there isn't a DarthFrog character on Star Wars.  But there should be.  :-)
[06:33] <mrdaweed> im like kind of nerd and i wonder why we are always related to starwars and star treek?
[06:34] <DarthFrog> Cuz they're cultural icons. :-)
[06:34] <bdizzle> hi, question on Lucid
[06:34] <DarthFrog> BTW, "Cuz" = "because". :-)
[06:34] <mrdaweed> bdizzle: yes ask me
[06:35] <bdizzle> when I hit the usual keys to increase / decrease brightness on my laptop, the software recognizes it and the status bar comes up and shows it increasing / decreasing
[06:35] <bdizzle> but the physical screen itself doesn't change brightness
[06:35] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: i know waht is cuz but dont know what is BTW
[06:35] <DarthFrog> bdizzle: Give it a stern talking-to? :-)
[06:35] <DarthFrog> BTW = By The Way
[06:36] <bdizzle> is anyone aware of this bug and how to correct it?
[06:36] <DarthFrog> which is an English idiom.
[06:36] <bdizzle> previously aware
[06:39] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: can i login in to my other linux of my hard drive and with out have to restart my computer?
[06:39] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: i mind in the command line
[06:40] <DarthFrog> Perhaps.  Maybe.  Is that Konsole window still open?
[06:41] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog:  i dont know then why i cant login in to my user cuz the bash say that still like 1gb free but i dont know then why i coppy files until it say that have no more free space
[06:41] <mrdaweed> and yes still open
[06:42] <DarthFrog> Then type "chroot /mnt/disk" but you won't be able to run any of the graphical tools.  Only command line tools.
[06:44] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: chroot /mnt/disk1 ok
[06:44] <DarthFrog> You'll only be logged into your hard disk system in that window.
[06:44] <DarthFrog> Now type: mount /dev/sda8 /home.
[06:44] <mrdaweed> im loged now
[06:45] <DarthFrog> there you go.
[06:45] <DarthFrog> now type "df -h" to see how much disk space you have is free.
[06:45] <mrdaweed> what is the commmand to del a directory?
[06:46] <DarthFrog> The directory has to be empty first, then "rmdir <directory>".
[06:46] <WilliamBuell> serious question - I am running Ubuntu 9.1 and it is asking me if I want to upgrade to 10.4,... is that a smooth automatic upgrade, or do i risk doing another reinstall for hours?
[06:47] <DarthFrog> WilliamBuell: That can't be given with 100% assurance, sorry.
[06:47] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog:  then what is the command to dell files
[06:47] <DarthFrog> mrdaweed: rm <filename>
[06:47] <mrdaweed> and is not like rm *.*?
[06:48] <DarthFrog> mrdaweed: Don't do that.
[06:48] <DarthFrog> not *.*.  Just *
[06:48] <mrdaweed> k
[06:48] <mrdaweed> and can i coppy the files frome there to other partition on the ntfs partition?
[06:49] <DarthFrog> You also need to know that filenames starting with a dot or period (eg. .bashrc) are hidden files.  Those need to be deleted too, before the diretory can be removed.
[06:49] <DarthFrog> mrdaweed: Yes, you can copy to an NTFS partition.  But I'd suggest that you only copy data files that way.
[06:50] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog:  i coppy lot of files there and show as empty
[06:51] <mrdaweed> i command ls and say nothing
[06:51] <mrdaweed> could be another reason why i cant login to my kubuntu?
[06:51] <DarthFrog> try: ls -la *
[06:52] <mrdaweed> ls: cannot access *: No such file or directory
[06:53] <DarthFrog> :-)  that's an empty directory.
[06:54] <mrdaweed> and to go one level up?
[06:54] <DarthFrog> cd ..
[06:54] <DarthFrog> "." is the current directory and ".." is the parent directory.
[06:55] <mrdaweed> you have lot of patient
[06:55] <mrdaweed> do you practice yoga or else?
[06:56] <mrdaweed> and now that we know that the directory is empty should i delete it with rm too?
[06:56] <DarthFrog> :-)  No.  But I have done a lot of teaching in the past.  And this IRC window is open besides my Firefox/Thunderbird window so I'm only partially here.
[06:56] <DarthFrog> Use "rmdir" to delete a directory.
[06:57] <DarthFrog> BTW, I'm about to go to bed (it's almost 11 o'clock here on the west coast of Canada) in a few minutes.
[06:57] <DarthFrog> So if you have a question for me, ask it now.
[06:58] <mrdaweed> what is the fast key to change bettween desktops like ALT+TAB
[06:58] <DarthFrog> CTL-F<number>
[06:59] <mrdaweed> nice
[07:10] <noaXess> good morning
[07:10] <mrdaweed> noaXess: good morning
[07:11] <noaXess> if i try update over update manager i get this: You do not have the nessecary privileges to perform this action..
[07:11] <noaXess> any idea how to fix that.. how to get the password question back?
[07:11] <noaXess> hey mrdaweed was up over there?.. where ever you are ;)
[07:11] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog: what soft do you recommend me to start making a webpage?
[07:12] <mrdaweed> noaXess: ive using linux like a week and i dont know
[07:12] <DarthFrog> Sorry, I don't do that stuff.  But Quanta Plus is the KDE tool.
[07:12] <noaXess> okay.. no prob
[07:12] <noaXess> DarthFrog: yes..
[07:12] <mrdaweed> noaXess: just want to be nice
[07:12] <noaXess> mrdaweed: jep.. thas fine
[07:13] <noaXess> so.. time for breakfast.. bbl
[07:18] <ufolog> 1
[07:18] <ufolog> hi
[07:26] <obert> which ftp client are you using? filezilla?
[07:30] <moetunes> !ftp
[07:30] <mrdaweed> DarthFrog:  do you know abouth torrents? i want to start a server and in other computers let the files to upload inside of windows like a torrent or a service to start and be like mirrows but with not a deddicated computer, do you know something abouth?
[07:31] <ForgeAus> anyone here done a wubi install?
[07:36] <obert> ForgeAus:  i
[07:38] <noaXess> if i try update over update manager i get this: You do not have the nessecary privileges to perform this action..
[07:38] <noaXess> any idea folks?
[07:51] <MEMEESON> Hey there.  I'm not sure where to download Kubuntu 9.10.  Any help or links?  I keep getting redirected to the 10.04 download link, but 10.04 is so broken I can't even get my computer working.
[07:53] <obert> !basics
[07:54] <obert> !yakuake
[07:54] <moetunes> !karmic
[07:54] <Lewiis> in XP you can right click on an application in the taskbar and make the open applications tile vertically or horizontally - is there any easy way to do this in kubuntu?
[07:54] <moetunes> !karmic > MEMEESON
[08:09] <z3row3b> hiya chaps.
[08:10] <z3row3b> trying out Kubuntu for the first time this year... it's OK
[08:10] <z3row3b> I'm used to Gnome but it seems kind of ugly compared to KDE...
[08:10] <z3row3b> Though I know how to use it better.
[08:10] <noaXess> MEMEESON: really??.. just try it on www.kubuntu.org?
[08:13] <yellowBaron> kmail has to be open to have the notification in the system tray? (e.g.; new mail...)
[08:27] <Lady^Blackheart> morning all ..
[08:27] <Lady^Blackheart> a slight  problem  for one of you big  bright  people...
[08:28] <Lady^Blackheart> ...
[08:30] <Lady^Blackheart> any one?
[08:31] <MEMEESON> :)
[08:32]  * Lady^Blackheart sighs
[08:33] <eagles0513875> Lady^Blackheart: ? all ok
[08:33] <Lady^Blackheart> im in a tizzy to be honest
[08:33] <Lady^Blackheart> for somereason it now says that my  hd is @locked@?
[08:33] <Lady^Blackheart> ideas ?
[08:34] <eagles0513875> ? Lady^Blackheart can you be a bit more specific
[08:34] <Lady^Blackheart> when i tried to install  linux  unbunto   thsi am ..
[08:34] <Lady^Blackheart> the  server replies that the  device is locked?
[08:36] <eagles0513875> Lady^Blackheart: what server?
[08:37] <Lady^Blackheart> the computor refuses  to allow me access to the hd ..
[08:37] <Lady^Blackheart> the  computors  reason is the device   namely the hd  is locked
[09:01] <asraniel> hi, i got a serious network manager issue
[09:02] <asraniel> after i had to hard reboot my laptop when he crashed while going into sleep, knetworkmanager reports the interfaces as "unmanaged"
[09:02] <asraniel> i have seen some people solve this with ubuntu by killing a certain nm-system-settings process
[09:02] <asraniel> but that does not exist in kubuntu
[09:02] <asraniel> now i'm stuck
[09:03] <asraniel> i had that once, reinstalling network-manager and rebooting solved it
[09:03] <asraniel> this time not
[09:03] <asraniel> not sure about my motivation to reinstall the whole computer..
[09:04] <asraniel> nobody around? probably too early in the morning..
[09:24] <marcel_> wo finde ich hier einen deutsch sprachigen cat
[09:24] <Tm_T> !de | marcel_
[11:05] <obert> need more practice !!
[11:05] <obert> uarf.
[11:21] <obert> i would to install a new font in this machine.where is fonts dir??
[11:22] <obert> root/font/conf.d/ ? conf.avaible??
[11:22] <obert> etc/fonts?
[11:23] <moetunes> !fonts
[11:26] <obert> i need to get practice on surf the system
[11:26] <obert> maybe 2 days arent enought to feel easy
[11:27] <moetunes> took me a fair while longer :]
[11:27] <appleseed> I updated my lucid kernel, then shortly afterward my sensors (lm_sensors) module crashed and kde showed a Serious Kernel Error message, now I want to find out how to reload the sensors module. How can I see the particular error message again, the Notifications button is muted now?
[11:29] <moetunes> appleseed: it might be in the log - /var/log/syslog
[11:29] <obert> no.i dont get it.ttf can be installed? install button is unselectable. on windows i just copy and paste the font into /fonts
[11:30] <appleseed> moetunes: I hoped so too, but I combed it back and forth and I can't seem to find it.
[11:32] <moetunes> appleseed: look in kern.log.0 maybe
[11:32] <appleseed> ok I'll check moetunes
[11:36] <appleseed> nothing there I can see either. How do I see which modules are loaded on startup, and how can a load a module myself?
[11:38] <obert> usr/share/fonts -> create a new dir with the name of wished font then copy .ttf in there?
[11:39] <obert> uhmf
[11:40] <mastiffsnapoli> giorno a tutti
[11:40] <Tm_T> !it | mastiffsnapoli
[11:41] <moetunes> appleseed: lsmod   and   insmod filename
[11:41] <mastiffsnapoli> exuse me good morning
[11:41] <appleseed> moetunes: thx
[11:41] <moetunes> np :]
[11:42] <appleseed> good morning mastiffsnapoli
[11:43] <iconmefisto> I'll be buying a wireless adapter soon, wondering whether to go USB or PCI, or is chipset/linux drivers more the issue to consider
[11:44] <hateball> iconmefisto: chipset is the dealbreaker :)
[11:45] <appleseed> One thing with USB wifi is that when you suspend to ram or disk it usually gives you a cannot suspend warning, although suspension still works
[11:46] <appleseed> Sometimes suspending with a usb wifi disables your NetworkManager, I had to re-enable it a couple of times, but usually it's decent.
[11:47] <iconmefisto> I found a PCI one that "supports Red Hat". can I assume from that that it will work ok with ubuntu/debian systems too?
[11:50] <obert> i'd failed on install it :P
[11:50] <obert> definately.
[11:58] <soulsurfer> does anyone have any experience with a usb to parallel port adapter
[11:58] <soulsurfer> ?
[12:02] <obert> done.but not sure how i did
[12:03] <obert> dolphin is a bit confusing me.
[12:14] <Guest15074> hi
[12:15] <Guest15074> je tu někdo z čech??
[12:16] <Guest15074> potřeboval bych pomoc s nastavením tisku
[12:17] <iconmefisto> !cs
[12:17] <iconmefisto> hm
[12:18] <iconmefisto> !cz
[12:19] <Guest15074> iconmefisto: yes I'm from Czech republic
[12:21] <JuJuBee> After a recent kernel upgrade to 2.6.32-22 from 32-21  I cant get my nvidia drivers to work. Tried purging and reinstalling, but no luck.  Is this a known bug?
[12:22] <jidas> ehm
[12:23] <jidas> muze mi nekdo poradit
[12:23] <Tm_T> !cz | jidas
[12:23] <Guest15074> jidas: konečně někdo z čech
[12:24] <Guest15074> Jidas: musíme jít na český kanál, tady asi za chvíli dostaneme ban
[12:24] <jidas> a jak?
[12:25] <Guest15074> tak na to jsem zatím taky nepřišel a kanál na který mě odkázali jem v seznamu nenašel
[12:26] <jidas> mas to tam : cesky je mozno se domluvit v "ten odkaz" dekujeme tak na ten odkaz klikni a ses tam
[12:34] <ForgeAus> !nvidia
[12:36] <thomasfuston> Aloha!, i am new to kde, my question is, is it possible to backup kontact data  ?
[12:43] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: the data is in various folders under /home/<user>/.kde/share/apps
[12:44] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: eg, kaddressbook, kmail, korganizer, etc
[12:44] <thomasfuston> iconmefisto: yah, i just thought that kontact it self got a tool with it,  thx for answer :) kde still new
[12:45] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: there may be a backup feature in kontact. I don't know
[12:52] <javatexan> moin
[12:54] <javatexan> kind of a dumb question....so why kubuntu over ubuntu?  Can I still do all the same stuff, it seems there are more programs available under gnome than kde....Any thoughts or resources to read?  Does 64bit kubuntu handle the whole 64bit vs 32bit libs problem better?  Thanks in advance.
[12:57] <thomasfuston> javatexan, you can use gnome apps in kde too
[12:57] <thomasfuston> and kde in gnome
[12:57] <thomasfuston> so there shouldnt be a problem with that
[12:58] <noaXess> what default options should i use for automounting /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab? it's a 1tb hd with one ext4 partition?
[12:59] <noaXess> is that enough, to much? /dev/sdb1       /storage/backup auto    nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid        0       2
[13:04] <ForgeAus> argh, can't wait to get konversation back... Quassel isn't for me...
[13:06] <kjeldahl> Anybody know a trick to get kubuntu to remember my dualscreen setup?
[13:07] <ForgeAus> already a kernel update! ouch
[13:12] <javatexan> okay
[13:20] <javatexan> wow, Kubuntu looks a lot different
[13:21] <javatexan> can you run gnome-do on Kubuntu?
[13:21] <javatexan> does anyone run gnome-do in kubuntu I guess is a better question  :)
[13:32] <arthur_> omg web-page previews in quassel!!! overkill isn't it?
[13:38] <miguel_> hello folks
[13:40] <Guest24607> i'm on lucid, and now i try to open a sata disk i need to give password and i don't have rights to make anything on it, the disk don't appear in fstab, how can i fix that behabiour? i want to access the disk from my user as if it was a pendrive
[13:45] <Guest24607> where is configured the behaviour of the sata disks?
[13:49] <javatexan> wow,  is there a "safe" way to have both gnome and kde on ubuntu, I noticed on the startup screen there was a place for KDE too, but it would not fully login, I guess I am missing some packages......but it got me thinking....
[13:49] <miguel__> hello folks
[13:50] <Tm_T> javatexan: you can install kubuntu-desktop
[13:50] <miguel__> where is configured the behaviour of the sata disks?
[13:51] <javatexan> Tm_T: but doesn't that have KDE "take over the machine"  or can I still login via gnome as well from the startup screen?
[13:51] <Tm_T> javatexan: it won't take over anything
[13:53] <miguel__> i'm on lucid, and now i try to open a sata disk i need to give password and i don't have rights to make anything on it, the disk don't appear in fstab, how can i fix that behabiour? i want to access the disk from my user as if it was a pendrive, the disk only have an ext3 partition
[13:54] <javatexan> Tm_T: cool
[14:03] <ForgeAus> hmm...
[14:04] <ForgeAus> kernels are chunky
[14:04] <obert> please gimme a fast way to backup all the stuff from win to this linux partition.
[14:04] <DarthFrog> rsync -avv --progress /Win_Partition /Linux_partition
[14:05] <obert> O_o
[14:05] <obert> isnt a bit too advanced for me?:P
[14:06] <DarthFrog> obert: How can I know that? :-)
[14:06] <obert> yunno yunno:)
[14:09] <obert> why dolphin wont create a dir? because i'm not root.
[14:09] <obert> so how could i try rsync -avv --progress /host /home
[14:09] <obert> nonono better to buy a personal sysadmin:)
[14:10] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[14:10] <obert> crazy stuff out there.absolutely.
[14:11] <miguel__> nobody knows where are configured the sata disks?
[14:12] <DarthFrog> miguel__: What are you trying to do?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> speaking of windows , has anyone found an app for windows to linux access , the apps for ext2 from ntfs don't work
[14:13] <miguel__> DarthFrog: just use it but when i try to opne in dolphin ask me the password and after opening i can't do anything on it, it say i haven't rights
[14:14] <DarthFrog> That's a nuisance.  Press ALT-F2 and type "kdesu dolphin".  That'll launch dolphin with root rights.  Be careful.
[14:15] <obert> i'd killed the bar apps instead only filezilla by pressing ctrl+alt+esc. how to retrieve the bottom bar apps?
[14:16] <obert> !#@!#!
[14:16] <miguel__> DarthFrog: but i don't want that, i just want to use it as if it was a pendrive, with my normal user
[14:16] <DarthFrog> obert: I've not figured that one out myself.  So I usually logout and log back in again.  Inelegant, though.
[14:16] <haydar1995> i have Problems with my WLAN
[14:17] <Tm_T> obert: alt+f2 and then enter "plasma-desktop" ?
[14:17] <haydar1995> but thats not importabt
[14:17] <obert> sudo halt? sudo restart?
[14:17] <DarthFrog> obert: No.  Try Tm_T's suggestion first.
[14:17] <obert> that? or some others diff approach? like ctrl+ffoo?
[14:18] <DarthFrog> obert: If that doesn't work, then right-click on the Desktop and select "Leave"  and just logout.
[14:18] <haydar1995> is that a SUPPORT chat?
[14:18] <obert> nah it is comes back
[14:18] <DarthFrog> The panel came back?  Cool! :-)
[14:18] <obert> i love you
[14:18] <Tm_T> so it was plasma-desktop, as I thought
[14:19] <obert> i've no idea where unix people takes the names
[14:19] <obert> i would to call it bottom-bar
[14:19] <BluesKaj> one can also right click on the desktop to choose the run command rather than using alt+f2
[14:20] <Tm_T> obert: panel, the system that draws panel and desktop wallpaper (and possible widgets there) is plasma
[14:20] <DarthFrog> obert: the panel or bottom bar (you can put one anywhere, mind you) is part of the Plasma desktop.
[14:20] <obert> hehe like in css: #right-top-black-menu :)
[14:21] <miguel__> please, anybody knows where are configured the sata disks?
[14:21] <obert> if i had got a backup i would try that rsync too :) but i'm laughing already so better dont try it
[14:23] <DarthFrog> obert: The usage I gave you for rsync uses it as an enhanced copy command.
[14:23] <Dark_Wizard> what package name Partition Editor for KDE? (GParted for gnome)
[14:24] <Pici> qtparted
[14:24] <obert> DarthFrog:  i'm on Wubi,just trying to backup via filezilla some stuff,then it has got errors,probably because i'm using filezilla as user not root
[14:24] <DarthFrog> Dark_Wizard: try partitionmanager.
[14:24] <BluesKaj> I'm curious , just what would one sync with windows on linux other than office data and text files?
[14:24] <obert> so i'm really sure that i want to backup from win to unix,or from online (and spend bandwidth) to here
[14:24] <DarthFrog> Dark_Wizard: Gparted is better than Qtparted.
[14:25] <ForgeAus> hehe me too obert :) wubi
[14:26] <obert> and anyway i'd noticed that dolphin doenst ask for root,but via yakuake is intuitive to use sudo mkdir /foo/bar/
[14:26] <ForgeAus> the /host directory gives you access to the host files
[14:26] <ForgeAus> I prefer krusader
[14:26] <obert> ForgeAus:  yes,but i was trying to backup from hosting to here
[14:26] <DarthFrog> Pici: Qtparted doesn't seem to be present in Lucid.  Partitionmanager seems to be its replacement.
[14:26] <BluesKaj> Dark_Wizard, gparted works well in kde ..it's actually the best partition editor I've used.
[14:26] <ForgeAus> but yakuake is ok (I tend to use konsole for a terminal)
[14:27] <ForgeAus> obert? you mean you were trying to back up your wubi?
[14:27] <DarthFrog> obert: If you can use yakuake, rsync is not too advanced for you.
[14:27] <ForgeAus> you can just copy the drive hardfile
[14:27] <Pici> DarthFrog: Oh? I'll keep that in mind.
[14:27] <ForgeAus> hmmm rsync ... rpath ... conary ?
[14:27] <obert> if write sudo foobar is advanced usage of yakuake,call me Stallman then:P
[14:28] <obert> i think that when i just moved in filezilla from online to here,it has failed because of permissions
[14:28] <ForgeAus> obert its something many people don't know how to do
[14:28] <obert> so why the x client as filezilla/dolphin doesnt ask for -p
[14:29] <obert> and why it is faster and more intuitive to use yakuake then
[14:29] <ForgeAus> I have to wait for this kernel upgrade before I can fix my nvidia drivers tho :(
[14:29] <DarthFrog> obert: it's an inconsistency that plagues many people.
[14:29] <ForgeAus> so X is a bit of a problem right now for me
[14:29] <ForgeAus> no compisiting either :(
[14:29] <malik_> HELLLLLO
[14:29] <ForgeAus> PCLinuxOS worked out of the box wiht nvidia drivers
[14:29] <obert> aka how to use ftp via shell and cut all the issues in a line?:)
[14:30] <malik_> I need some help...because transmission and some other programs won't work due to restricted permissions after the upgrade. Can anyone help me out?
[14:30] <DarthFrog> obert: If you want a command line ftp client, I really like ncftp.
[14:30] <ForgeAus> malik transmission???
[14:30] <obert> filezilla is just an x thing?
[14:30] <malik_> Transmission the torrent program
[14:30] <ForgeAus> I think filezlla is X yeah
[14:30] <ForgeAus> I thought that was Macintosh
[14:30] <malik_> basically any program that uses my c drive as a location won't work...
[14:31] <obert> i got all settings imported from ntfs to here via filezilla
[14:31] <ForgeAus> (Transmission torrent program)
[14:31] <obert> that's why i used it
[14:31] <obert> instead rewrite all sites settings.
[14:31] <ForgeAus> theres a built in console ftp in kubuntu
[14:31] <ForgeAus> (at least when I typed ftp it worked
[14:32] <DarthFrog> ForgeAus: It works.  Ncftp is better. :-)
[14:32] <ForgeAus> if you need advanced features tho I don't know...
[14:32] <malik_> so does anyone know how to give permissions to some programs to use my cdrive?
[14:32] <ForgeAus> DarthFrog: I'm willing to accept that
[14:32] <ForgeAus> you could f course use krusader for ftp :)
[14:32] <ForgeAus> but thats not in a console
[14:32] <ForgeAus> I'm just a krusader fan
[14:32] <ForgeAus> another option is mc (midnight commander)
[14:32] <DarthFrog> ForgeAus: Which for many people, is the way it should be.
[14:33] <DarthFrog> I've never used Krusader.  I'll have to give it a try.
[14:33] <ForgeAus> man quassel is taking some getting used to
[14:33] <lolcat2010> Hi, How do you install kjots in KDE 4
[14:33] <ForgeAus> Krusader is very mc-like
[14:33] <lolcat2010> Which package should I install ?
[14:33] <ForgeAus> (a dual pane gui file manager)
[14:33] <obert> uff i would just to following the right way.
[14:34] <ArGGu^^> Hello. I have problem with the system monitor in Kubuntu 10.04 64bit. When I click the head of the column it won't sort it by the column.
[14:34] <ForgeAus> of course you fcan run dolphin in split mode for a similar-ish effect
[14:35] <ForgeAus> but I don't find dolphin any better...
[14:35] <ArGGu^^> Odd thing is that it work on my minilaptop with Kubuntu netbook 32bit 10.04
[14:35] <DarthFrog> ForgeAus: I never really caught on to Quassel.  I like Konversation better.
[14:35] <ForgeAus> me too Darth :)
[14:35] <ArGGu^^> and when I booted the Kubuntu netbook 32bit 10.04 on my desktop it had same problem :S
[14:35] <ForgeAus> Quassel is too X-Chat-like for me
[14:35] <obert> bah. sudo mkdir /var/www/www.foo.bar and i forgot to add chmod. maybe it wont backup files from online to here because that
[14:36] <ForgeAus> sorry ArGGu I have no idea... I haven't used that plasmoid but you might want to mention it in #KDE
[14:36] <DarthFrog> obert: You can chmod anytime.
[14:36] <ArGGu^^> So it odd if computer hardware can affect on this.
[14:36] <obert> ctrl+alt+esc->Stallman
[14:37] <obert> DarthFrog:  i'd tried to chmod it when i created it. sudo -m 0666, /var/...
[14:37] <obert> wrong syntax fi sure
[14:37] <ArGGu^^> ForgeAus it's not plasmoid
[14:37] <obert> but the man says mkdir [option] [dir]
[14:37] <ForgeAus> Darth what do you thnk of kickoff vs lancelot vs oldskool K-menu ?
[14:37] <ArGGu^^> I'm talkin about the system monitor program
[14:37] <ForgeAus> I though the system monitor was a plasmoid
[14:38] <DarthFrog> obert: You also need to set the execute bit.  With a directory, the execute bit gives permission to enter a directory.
[14:38] <ForgeAus> oh wait, theres a system monitor app  too! I forgot
[14:38] <obert> udo chmod 0666  /var/www/ww/ tsk
[14:38] <DarthFrog> ForgeAus: I fell in love with Lancelot the moment I first used it. :-)
[14:38] <ForgeAus> it works for me on desktop kubuntu 10,04
[14:38] <obert> execute bit?
[14:39] <DarthFrog> obert: chmod 777
[14:39] <ForgeAus> maybe you need to try clicking again on the colum header to sort it?
[14:39] <ArGGu^^> It has never worked on my desktop. But just did think it doesn't have the sorting feature
[14:39] <ForgeAus> it SHOULD work
[14:39] <obert> cannot open the file in write mode.
[14:39] <ArGGu^^> but then i noticed that it works on my minilaptop
[14:39] <ForgeAus> DarthFrog I agree :)
[14:39] <DarthFrog> obert: You wouldn't want to use that permission (i.e. 777) on a file, though.
[14:39] <ArGGu^^> And by never I mean older kubuntu kde4 releases
[14:39] <obert> 666 should be enought for a dir
[14:40] <DarthFrog> obert: 666 is only read and write.  You won't be able to enter the directory. :-)
[14:40] <obert> the created one.then open filezilla client and move online contents there
[14:40] <ForgeAus> some good things com out of KDE4 but I still miss KDE3.5.x
[14:40] <obert> !!#@!@!
[14:40] <ArGGu^^> ForgeAus 32bit or 64bit?
[14:40] <ForgeAus> uh not sur ArGGu yet... hwo to tell?
[14:40] <DarthFrog> ForgeAus: Well, many folks share that opinion.  But the future is looking great for KDE4.
[14:41] <ForgeAus> 32-bit according to uname
[14:41] <obert> !!#@!@!.it works.
[14:41] <ForgeAus> obert of course it does :)
[14:41] <obert> via ncftp is?
[14:41] <ForgeAus> DarthFrog:  I agree, KDE4 is getting there...
[14:41] <ArGGu^^> hmm ok
[14:42] <obert> let me ask it to google,as i told to my mom: dont you know? ask it to google! -how? -ask it to google in italian,and dont forget to add ? at end of question
[14:42] <obert> hehe it worked
[14:46] <ForgeAus> I would like to see some more plasma stuff for the panel, from KDE3 like hiding buttons (alhtough I have it autohide anyway) also somehting KDE3 didn't have but panel SHAPES like a OSX/AWN/KsmoothDock/etc look and some more (possibly like the windows program sTabLauncher
[14:46] <obert> also i never got why fonts are so small here.and windows are too narrow somewhere.
[14:46] <ForgeAus> (I keep going to call it sTabHandler
[14:46] <obert> (what a splendid english i'm writing today)
[14:46] <ForgeAus> its a category-based dock bar for windows...
[14:47] <ForgeAus> obert, I'd be a hypocrit if I complained about yours)
[14:47] <DarthFrog> obert: I assure you your English is better than our Italian. :-)
[14:47] <obert> ForgeAus:  google it!!:)
[14:48] <Pici> !google
[14:48] <obert> ForgeAus:  not everyday is understandable
[14:48] <obert> and not everyday i get a linux installation that works
[14:48] <DarthFrog> obert: You do a Linux installation every day??
[14:49] <ForgeAus> hehe I generally get LInux installs that don't work but sometimes thats half the fun :)
[14:49] <obert> hehe no:) but this is the first time that i'm starting to be happy
[14:49] <obert> instead totally lost
[14:49] <obert> and my first try was ubuntu 6
[14:50] <DarthFrog> obert: Good for you.  Welcome to the Light Side of The Force. :-^)
[14:51] <ArGGu^^> ForgeAus I found the reason why it is not working on my desktop
[14:51] <obert> ubuntu is growed up anyway
[14:51] <ArGGu^^> It is my mouse
[14:51] <ForgeAus> your mouse?
[14:52] <ForgeAus> the click isn't registering?
[14:52] <ArGGu^^> I pluged my desktop pc mouse on my laptop
[14:52] <obert> maybe all the boring points are solved,atm.that's why i can use it
[14:52] <ForgeAus> I had to click twice sometimes to get it to work for me
[14:52] <ArGGu^^> and it did not sort when i click on the head of the column
[14:52] <ArGGu^^> but my mouse work on every other app just fine
[14:52] <ForgeAus> I really do like Wubi tho
[14:52] <ForgeAus> its fun and interesting
[14:53] <obert> ForgeAus:  i dunno its logic anyway:why get windows then wubi,since should be the contrary
[14:53] <ArGGu^^> My mouse also work on fine on the system monitor app except the sorting :S
[14:54] <ForgeAus> obert but theres wine for that
[14:54] <ForgeAus> hehe actually come to think of it wine should be interesting from wubi :)
[14:54] <obert> or a vmachine:)
[14:54] <ForgeAus> ahh yes virtual machines :)
[14:54] <obert> or... #grub :P
[14:55] <ForgeAus> I liked andlinux although nowerdays you'd probably use Portable ubuntu for the same effect
[14:55] <ForgeAus> (ie colinux to give you an embedded linux in your windows)
[14:55] <ForgeAus> although its not 64-bit compatible yet afaik (at least on the windows side, nto sure about the linux side)
[14:55] <ArGGu^^> #KDE
[14:55] <ArGGu^^> damm
[14:55] <obert> i sincerely installed wubi because my nvidia driver is gone on windows
[14:56] <ForgeAus> really?
[14:56] <ForgeAus> I have the opposite problem
[14:56] <ForgeAus> windows nVidia works
[14:56] <obert> i prefer keep os separately,in two hd or machines
[14:56] <ForgeAus> on same machine PCLinuxOS nvidia worked out of the box
[14:56] <ForgeAus> but sofar Kubuntu doesn't like it
[14:57] <ForgeAus> worst part is I gotta wait for new kernel, etc to install via intollerably slow connection before I can start working on it
[14:57] <ForgeAus> sofar 38% only
[14:57] <ForgeAus> I have to agree that kpackagekit isn't so nice I miss the oldskool kpackage
[14:58] <obert> apt-get install -> but dunno why someone told me to dont use it
[15:00] <ForgeAus> wel firstly you need a sudo
[15:00] <ForgeAus> so it should be sudo apt-get install
[15:00] <ForgeAus> (apt-cache search to find a package btw)
[15:01] <obert> apt-cache what? to get a list of reposity?
[15:05] <ForgeAus> the command to search for a package is: apt-cache search <keyword>
[15:05] <ForgeAus> ie apt-cache search nvidia
[15:05] <ForgeAus> for example
[15:05] <ForgeAus> apt-get update for your sources (to make sure your package list is up to date)
[15:06] <KOPRajs> hi, I've upgraded from karmic to Lucid and now I'm experiencing two bugs...
[15:07] <KOPRajs> first: after few days of uptime I suddenly lost some icons on my task bar and all icons in kickoff menu (also the menu and kickoff itself became very slow)
[15:08] <ForgeAus> lost icons from taskbar? you mean the plasma panel?
[15:08] <KOPRajs> after reboot everything is OK, but after few days again icons diappear and kickoff became slow
[15:08] <ForgeAus> or apps you were running died on you?
[15:08] <KOPRajs> yes... I lost the K-menu icon on the pannel + I lost icons of some running apps
[15:08] <KOPRajs> but those apps are running
[15:09] <obert> ForgeAus:  i'd forgot to update,indeed
[15:09] <KOPRajs> even the area in systray remains "clickable"
[15:09] <KOPRajs> only icon is missing
[15:09] <KOPRajs> and all icons in kickoff menu are gone
[15:09] <obert> obert@ubuntu:~$ uptime 16:09:20 up  7:54,  1 user,  load average: 1.43, 1.21, 1.11
[15:09] <ForgeAus> uh KOPRajs maybe ask in #KDE if anyones come across something like that before?
[15:10] <obert> and without sleep:)
[15:10] <ForgeAus> I havn't and don't really know what to do about it
[15:10] <BluesKaj> KOPRajs, have you updated /
[15:10] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:10] <KOPRajs> also Kmix icon is gone (but I can still click on the empty space in systray and change volume)
[15:10] <ForgeAus> note: kickoff is just a widget on the panel btw
[15:10] <KOPRajs> I'm on latest Lucid
[15:10] <KOPRajs> yes
[15:10] <KOPRajs> so I suppose this is plasma bug
[15:10] <KOPRajs> maybe memory leak or something
[15:11] <BluesKaj> yes, KOPRajs but have you updated as in sudo apt-get update?
[15:11] <ForgeAus> oh you have disappearing icons but the proggy still there just leaves empty space? interesting
[15:11] <ForgeAus> it is definitely plasma-related whatever it is
[15:11] <KOPRajs> BluesKaj: yes, I have the system updated
[15:11] <ForgeAus> I didn't upgrade from karmic to lucid ...
[15:12] <obert> switch to Consolas font:P
[15:12] <BluesKaj> KOPRajs, just add the kmenu kicker with add widgets option
[15:12] <ForgeAus> I did dist-upgrades from edgy to feisty to gutsy to hardy to intrepid... but not since then
[15:12] <ForgeAus> I only just got Lucid working via Wubi now
[15:12] <ForgeAus> well I guess "working" is a matter of opinion
[15:13] <obert> Consolas is a windows thing,you need to find it
[15:13] <obert> very nice monotype font
[15:14] <ForgeAus> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=22e69ae4-7e40-4807-8a86-b3d36fab68d3&displaylang=en ???
[15:14] <ForgeAus> (for consolas font)
[15:14] <obert> could be
[15:14] <KOPRajs> here's what I'm talking about: http://jf-web.wz.cz/kubuntu_missing_icons.png
[15:14] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus,` well if you insist on wubi , you have to expect problems
[15:15] <ForgeAus> actually I like wubi
[15:15] <KOPRajs> K-menu, Kmix, Kopete, KnetworkManager and all icons in Kickoff are gone
[15:15] <ForgeAus> what kind of problems?
[15:15] <ForgeAus> KOPRajs:  I wonder if theres something they have in common other than the icon going missing on you
[15:15] <KOPRajs> BluesKaj: no, the Menu is there, only icon is not shown
[15:15] <ForgeAus> (whcih might hint to a reason why)
[15:15] <ForgeAus> KOPRajs:  essentially your icons are all there just they show up blank right?
[15:16] <KOPRajs> also notification area has no icon
[15:16] <KOPRajs> yes, see the screenshot
[15:16] <KOPRajs> http://jf-web.wz.cz/kubuntu_missing_icons.png
[15:16] <BluesKaj> yeah KOPRajs , just add the icon
[15:16] <KOPRajs> this happens after few days of uptime... after reboot it is back to normal
[15:17] <iconmefisto> KOPRajs: could be a bug in the theme you are using
[15:17] <KOPRajs> what theme?
[15:17] <KOPRajs> it's oxygen
[15:18] <KOPRajs> and there's no place for bug which would affect missing Kopete icon in theme
[15:18] <KOPRajs> must be a plasma bug
[15:19] <KOPRajs> will try #KDE
[15:19] <KOPRajs> I wonder if anyone seen this
[15:20] <ForgeAus> eek kget isn't even installed by defualt!
[15:20] <ForgeAus> ouch
[15:21] <ForgeAus> no kget, choqok and quassel instead of konversation, ohh kay IC...
[15:22] <ForgeAus> and why doesn't kpackagekit's "details" actually give any details?
[15:24] <KOPRajs> anyone using Lucid and is logged in on desktop for more than 5 days?
[15:27] <DarthFrog> Six days and counting.  Forget why I last rebooted.
[15:27] <DarthFrog> Probably a new kernel.
[15:27] <ForgeAus> I'm going to need 6 days just to get this kernel the speed this is (or rather isn't) going
[15:28] <KOPRajs> btw. I forgot to mention that the time is incorrect... in the same moment when icons disappeared the time had gone back two hours... it is 16:11 and other system knows that but the pannel shows 14:11... see the screenshot and the timestamps on Quassel and on the panel: http://jf-web.wz.cz/kubuntu_missing_icons.png
[15:29] <obert> heh ncftping
[15:29] <KOPRajs> before those icons disappeared the panel was showing right time
[15:30] <jimmy51_> hello all.  i unlocked my desktop this morning to find my default apps have changed (since yesterday, apparantly).  mp3's open in VLC, avi's open in Dragon.  Yesterday amarok opened them and VLC opened avi's!  why the juggle?
[15:31] <obert> how to backup an entire folder? get *.* ?
[15:35] <DarthFrog> obert: cp -a <folder> <newfolder>
[15:37] <obert> copy
[15:39] <obert> tsk no way.dolphin doesnt likes me
[15:42] <obert> uff.last questions for today: 1.need to get the right shell mkdir+chmod syntx. 2.use dolphin as root.
[15:42] <ForgeAus> wow Kubuntu remembered my session well
[15:42] <obert> i'd create a dir 777 in home instead chmodding the right dir:)
[15:42] <ForgeAus> rebooted and reloaded quassel fast!
[15:42] <ForgeAus> impressive
[15:43] <DarthFrog> (1) man chmod (2) Alt-F2, then "kdesu dolphin"
[15:43] <obert> man chmod doesnt helps
[15:43] <francesco_> ciao a tutti voi
[15:43] <francesco_> !list
[15:44] <DarthFrog> !it " francesco_
[15:44] <DarthFrog> obert:  sudo chmod 777 <directory name>
[15:44] <DarthFrog> !it | francesco_
[15:45] <obert> DarthFrog:  i did sudo mkdir <newdir> 0777
[15:46] <DarthFrog> obert: No.  That will make a new directory called 0777. :-)  Not what you want.
[15:46] <KOPRik> one more info on those strange missing icons... I have .xsession-errors full of this: plasma-desktop(1546): Failed to lock file "/var/tmp/kdecache-koprajs/kpc/kde-icon-cache.lock" , last result = 2
[15:46] <KOPRik> any ideas?
[15:46] <DarthFrog> obert: chmod is a separate command.
[15:46] <obert>  mkdir [OPTION]... DIRECTORY.. ( -m )
[15:47] <obert> -m  set file mode (as in chmod), not a=rwx - umask
[15:47] <DarthFrog> OK, then "mkdir --mode 777 <directory name>"
[15:47] <obert> dont you create a dir and set its permission in a single mkdir directive?
[15:48] <obert> --mode 777 == -m (0)777 ?
[15:48] <DarthFrog> obert: Yes, you can.  But you have to use the "--mode" or "-m" switch.
[15:48] <DarthFrog> The 0 is silent. :-^)
[15:48] <obert> thats what i'd tried to do :) many thanks
[15:49] <obert> but i'm sure i'd tried that syntax already.dunno where i did wrong before
[15:49] <obert> dunno.
[15:50] <obert> probably just typos
[15:50] <DarthFrog> Well in the exampe you gave above, you didn't use "-m".
[15:50] <obert> mhm
[15:51] <obert> sudo  chmod 777 /var/www/www.foo.bar/ :)
[15:51] <DarthFrog> That'll work.
[15:51] <obert> opps,i meant mkdir chmod 777 /foo
[15:51] <obert> :)
[15:51] <DarthFrog> But in general, leave off the last / unless you mean to address the contents of the directory.
[15:52] <obert> well i did wrong.and stop.thanks heh
[15:52] <obert> it would search for its child dir?
[15:52] <DarthFrog> No.
[15:54] <obert> mah.ok thanks people
[15:58] <obert> (how to ncftping an entire ftp? get *.* will get only files not subdirs and such)
[16:01] <obert> get -rt <destination-folder> ?
[16:01] <obert> uhmm
[16:04] <puyehue74> oxymoron: hi again, do you remeber I asked yesturday about a problem when sorting a list view by clicking on the column header
[16:05] <oxymoron> puyehue74: Uhm yes, did you sort it out?
[16:06] <puyehue74> oxymoron: the problem is with my mouse, when I click it send the following xevent: buttonpress motionnotify buttonrelease
[16:07] <ArGGu^^> puyehue74 sorting problem in what app?
[16:07] <ArGGu^^> Just asking becaus I have sorting problem in system monitor
[16:07] <puyehue74> oxymoron: my touch pad hasn't such xevent sequence
[16:07] <ArGGu^^> And it only occurs with my mouse
[16:08] <puyehue74> I have this problem in all list view: kmail, dolphin, etc
[16:08] <ArGGu^^> Tried another mouse and it worked just fine
[16:08] <puyehue74> it is a mouse protocol related problem
[16:09] <oxymoron> puyehue74: Oh man are you using a touchpad on Kubuntu? :O Notebook version then?
[16:09] <puyehue74> oxymoron: yes
[16:10] <ArGGu^^> puyehue74 havent needed sorting feature on other apps, but jsut ried same problem
[16:10] <ArGGu^^> *just tried
[16:11] <ArGGu^^> But it is working on 9.10
[16:11] <ArGGu^^> so could hal removal affect on this?
[16:12] <puyehue74> oxymoron: but my touchpad on my laptop work fine
[16:13] <oxymoron> puyehue74: Well, its kind of new that notebook edition and well I unfortunatly think you have to send a bug report for it too www.bugs.kde.org
[16:14] <ArGGu^^> oxymoron I have just normal desktop edition and same problem
[16:15] <puyehue74> ArGGu^^: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-mouse/+bug/365300 some have reported similar problem related to a4 mouse brand
[16:15] <ArGGu^^> I have a4 mouse :D
[16:15] <puyehue74> until now, the only solution is get a new mouse ........:S
[16:16] <ArGGu^^> but I havent had any problems with older Kubuntu releases :S
[16:16] <ArGGu^^> In that bug report there is 9.04
[16:17] <ArGGu^^> So sad this mouse is really comfortable in my hand :S
[16:17] <oxymoron> ArGGu^^: Really, well thats odd :S
[16:18] <ArGGu^^> oxymoron yes it is yes it is :S
[16:19] <ArGGu^^> oxymoron puyehue74 is there some way me to debug what happens when I click the head of the column?
[16:21] <puyehue74> ArGGu^^: running xev you can check wich event are send when you manipulate your mouse
[16:22] <puyehue74> ArGGu^^: but it capture only the events on the test windows
[16:24] <ForgeAus> what extras does p7zip-full have that p7zip doesn't?
[16:25] <ArGGu^^> puyehue74 tried with two mouses
[16:26] <ArGGu^^> A4 mouses sends MotionNotify that te another mouse does not
[16:26] <ArGGu^^> And with the another mouse the sorting works
[16:26] <ArGGu^^> *that the
[16:27] <puyehue74> ArGGu^^: same here
[16:28] <puyehue74> The remaining question is, the problem is QtEventfilter or xevent related
[16:28] <AnnaZ> heh a4. always good for a surprise.
[16:29] <AnnaZ> i suppose it's the only company that makes dual wheel mice among other things.
[16:32] <oxymoron> ArGGu^^: start dolphin in konsole ;)
[16:34] <obert> http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/animals_05_10/a30_23152731.jpg
[16:34] <ArGGu^^> oxymoron
[16:34] <obert> no.it is an horse
[16:34] <Pici> !ot
[16:34] <obert> :P
[16:34] <ArGGu^^> there does not show anything on the concole when I try to sort
[16:35] <ArGGu^^> *console
[16:35] <oxymoron> ArGGu^^: Does it show anything else?
[16:36] <ArGGu^^> oxymoron yes
[16:36] <ArGGu^^> but nothing that is related on mouse
[16:36] <Barridus> where does the skype application go when you install it via the deb?
[16:40] <oxymoron> ArGGu^^: I guess its something with xserver then, well I dont know how to debug that I am afraid, maybe #kubuntu-devel knows anything.
[16:42] <ArGGu^^> ok
[16:44] <iconmefisto> Barridus: if you mean the executable, it's /usr/bin/skype
[16:47] <puyehue74> ArGGu^^: sort items in quassel channel list works fine
[16:49] <ForgeAus> how to change kde's global selection policy in KDE4?
[16:50] <ForgeAus> (ie from single click to double-click for folders, etc?)
[16:50] <iconmefisto> ForgeAus: in mouse settings
[16:51] <puyehue74> ForgeAus: system Settings->Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse
[16:52] <ArGGu^^> puyehue74 ok
[16:54] <Barridus> iconmefisto, thanks - totally had a brain fart there.  dealing with sick girls
[16:58] <ForgeAus> no qtparted in Lucid?
[16:59] <ForgeAus> what partition manager does it use?
[16:59] <ForgeAus> !qtparted
[16:59] <iconmefisto> !info partitionmanager
[17:01] <ForgeAus> uh back to what I was trying to say what partition editor does it use?
[17:02] <iconmefisto> ForgeAus: partitionmanager
[17:04] <ForgeAus> hmm...
[17:06] <ArGGu^^> ForgeAus the partitionmanager package install KDE Partition Manager http://sourceforge.net/projects/partitionman/
[17:09] <ForgeAus> thx :)
[17:09] <ForgeAus> ArGGu^^:  its in the repos
[17:12] <bipolar> can someone here using the kolab akonadi resource try to duplicate a glitch for me? It seems that if I have kontact running with the akonadi resource setup for the calendar and I sync the kolab resource from the akonadi console kontact has some kind of UI frieze about 90% of the time. I think it may be fixed in 4.4.3.
[17:21] <AnnaZ> ehrm i can see some of the icons in the system tray are programs, some are plasmoids. how can i add my own plasmoid to the system tray?
[17:21] <AnnaZ> so far i have only found a possibility to turn predefined plasmoids on and off.
[17:21] <ForgeAus> you generally can't
[17:22] <ForgeAus> you can add plasmoids to the panel
[17:22] <ForgeAus> but not system tray
[17:22] <chakie> so, anyone here who likes akonadi and/or can get kmail to run?
[17:22] <ForgeAus> unless they do something internally that embeds it there, I guess
[17:22] <speedvin> hello guys!
[17:22] <AnnaZ> ForgeAus: why? have you seen tray hold plasmoids? see system tray options -> plasma widgets.
[17:23] <speedvin> I wanted to ask you something....
[17:23] <AnnaZ> so it CAN hold plasmoids.
[17:23] <speedvin> many of you use Amarok (I think so)
[17:23] <speedvin> and I wanted to use my music mysql db (Amraok DB)
[17:24] <ForgeAus> ahh IC
[17:25] <AnnaZ> i know in previous versions system tray only showed programs, not plasmoids.
[17:25] <speedvin> and I want to ask now...If I want to use such db I need to install entire mysql-server package with deps?
[17:26] <AnnaZ> speedvin: i believe so, though i'm totally puzzled why they didn't make it work with sqlite. i heard because of performance or so.
[17:27] <speedvin> AnnaZ: I think you are right becouse MySQL was written to be the fastest DB ;)
[17:28] <AnnaZ> speedvin: i don't like mysql anyway. it has longer startup time and overhead and lower performance than postgres.
[17:28] <AnnaZ> EVEN than postgres. there sure ought to be some really high end stuff out there somewhere.
[17:29] <speedvin> AnnaZ: You're right but KDE need MySQL then Amarok dev's use this situation
[17:29] <AnnaZ> kde needs mysql?
[17:29] <ForgeAus> wish I could use swapfs to load my wubi swapdrive!
[17:30] <ForgeAus> place vista's pagefile.sys there :)
[17:30] <AnnaZ> oh i suppose the new kmail and stuff do...
[17:30] <speedvin> AnnaZ I think yes (it's in deps of KDE in all dist's)
[17:40] <henkka-> hello
[17:41] <henkka-> someone wanna help me install java again on Kubuntu?
[17:41] <speedvin> hello
[17:41] <henkka-> I had to reinstall kubuntu and id ont remember how to do it anymore
[17:41] <henkka-> itw as something like sudo apt or something
[17:41] <henkka-> :D
[17:41] <speedvin> sudo aptitude install openjdk
[17:41] <cortex|sk> openjdk-6-jre
[17:42] <henkka-> ok thanks
[17:42] <henkka-> is there any way to make kubuntu run a bit faster?
[17:42] <henkka-> or is some sort of antivirus neccesary
[17:42] <speedvin> :D
[17:43] <speedvin> henkka: No need for antivirus for now I think
[17:43] <henkka-> oh for love fo god
[17:44] <henkka-> I tried to install Windows XP but it didnt work
[17:44] <henkka-> anyway i've a 40gb HD
[17:45] <henkka-> so I made a 12gb partition for the win XP and
[17:45] <henkka-> and unformatted partition of 24gb or so
[17:45] <henkka-> and left the rest untouched
[17:45] <henkka-> anyway i installed Kubuntu then
[17:45] <henkka-> and even though i selected the 'use biggest continuous freespace' option in the partition wizard
[17:45] <henkka-> it apparently went to the
[17:45] <henkka-> remaining 4gb slice
[17:46] <henkka-> so.... I guess it'll be another hour reinstalling D:
[17:46] <henkka-> well since that's teh case
[17:47] <henkka-> Could someone recommend a lightweight linux
[17:47] <henkka-> since i've to reinstall anyway
[17:47] <crweb> How do I get kpackagekit to quit telling me to upgrade to 10.04?  Thats extremely annoying and I can't upgrade right now.
[17:47] <crweb> I still want to see normal updates
[17:48] <shadeslayer> henkka-: Damn small linux :P
[17:48] <henkka-> huh?
[17:48] <shadeslayer> 22:17:03     henkka- | Could someone recommend a lightweight linux                                                                  │ azteech
[17:49] <henkka-> kk
[17:49] <henkka-> does it have desktop interface and is it hard to use? since Im really beginner
[17:49] <henkka-> :D
[17:49] <ArGGu^^> Damm small linux maybe that little too striped distro :D
[17:49] <henkka-> :D
[17:49] <shadeslayer> ArGGu^^: well he said lightweight
[17:50] <shadeslayer> henkka-: theres also Xubuntu
[17:50] <crweb> yeah, i think that dsl was probably a little too lightweight
[17:50] <AnnaZ> striped -.-
[17:50] <henkka-> well I dont know I'd be happy with Kubuntu but it works too slowly
[17:50] <crweb> henkka-: turn off effects?
[17:50] <henkka-> i tried
[17:50] <AnnaZ> i heard it's fashionable. black and white striped.
[17:50] <henkka-> didnt make much difference :D
[17:50] <shadeslayer> or Lubuntu
[17:51] <crweb> henkka-: personally, even with my mid-range hardware, I don't see other things being really *faster*
[17:51] <crweb> henkka-: whats your hardware like?
[17:52] <henkka-> 2ghz amd athlon 1gb ddr1
[17:52] <henkka-> radeon9600
[17:52] <henkka-> old harddrive 40gb and that's kinda slow too
[17:53] <shadeslayer> henkka-: ddr1! did you purchase it in the Stone age or something? :P
[17:53] <crweb> henkka-: the 40gb drive is probably a huge factor..
[17:53] <henkka-> maybe
[17:53] <crweb> henkka-: I've a few machines about the same cpu and ram and they perform fairly well
[17:53] <shadeslayer> heh.. i think i have SDram still lying around here somewhere
[17:53] <CartoonCat> hello
[17:55] <shadeslayer> CartoonCat: hi
[17:55] <CartoonCat> so, still having wireless issues, ath5k
[17:56] <shadeslayer> CartoonCat: im guessing you already checked the wiki
[17:56] <CartoonCat> yes, i didnt see this issue there
[17:56] <shadeslayer> CartoonCat: whats the issue?
[17:56] <AnnaZ> henkka-: i run similar hardware, except the harddisk is quite a bit faster (at least 3 times as fast as yours), and the graphics card is a geforce 8.
[17:57] <AnnaZ> and i'm fully satisfied with kubuntu's performance here.
[17:57] <CartoonCat> the driver (regardless of the network manager) times out. its IS a issue with ath5k. the main issue is figuring out how to get a specifit version installed
[17:59] <shadeslayer> CartoonCat: did you try installing newer drivers ? heard of linux-backports-wirless-modules?
[17:59] <CartoonCat> lol, yea i heard of it
[17:59] <shadeslayer> did you try them?
[18:00] <CartoonCat> that one acts the same, I am not sure if it really installing or not, becasue there is no versioning display in dmesg
[18:00] <shadeslayer> CartoonCat: You will have to reboot after installing that package
[18:01] <CartoonCat> I did
[18:01] <shadeslayer> same thing? no idea then :P
[18:02] <CartoonCat> yea, I managed to get compat-wireless-2010-04_26-1_amd64.deb (self made) working, BUT! the kernel that works on doesnt have working 3d (needed for googleearth)
[18:03] <CartoonCat> now, I can not get the modules/build to install with any ofthe <other> kernels
[18:03] <CartoonCat> i mean * /lib/modules/2.6.32-22-[server/generic]/build
[18:06] <shadeslayer>                      | figuring out how to get a specifit version installed                                                         │ bipolar
[18:06] <shadeslayer>                      | figuring out how to get a specifit version installed                                                         │ bipolar
[18:06] <shadeslayer>                      | figuring out how to get a specifit version installed                                                         │ bipolar
[18:06] <FloodBotK3> shadeslayer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:06] <shadeslayer> bah
[18:06] <CartoonCat> nice flood to show my typo lol
[18:07] <shadeslayer> stupid touchpad... goes wonky after i close the laptop screen
[18:07] <CartoonCat> ah acer is it?
[18:07] <shadeslayer> Dell XPS M1530
[18:07] <bipolar> Riddell: can you point me to where I can download the kubuntu-ppa gpg key? I need it for preseeding an install.
[18:07] <bipolar> I need the .gpg file to do it. :P
[18:07] <CartoonCat> mm normaly have good luck with dells (synaptics)
[18:08] <JuJuBee> Im using nis in my classroom and just upgraded a workstation to 10.04.  Every 3rd or so logout, it hangs up (cursor in upper left corner not blinking, black screen) and never gets back to login screen.  Forces me to hard reboot with power button.
[18:09] <shadeslayer> bipolar: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xE4DFEC907DEDA4B8A670E8042836CB0A8AC93F7A&op=index
[18:09] <bipolar> shadeslayer: thanks shadeslayer. I didn't realize I could get the file from there.
[18:10] <shadeslayer> bipolar: :P
[18:15] <sebersole> i use konversation on gnome (ubuntu) and have audio issues that affect just konversation; i did not get the full popup message written down (is it written to a log somewhere) but the complain was about "phonon" and "hda intel"
[18:16] <sebersole> basically i get that error and audio from konversation stops working (until after reboot)
[18:16] <sebersole> i had these same audio issues when running kde on this same machine, so its not gnome specific
[18:16] <sebersole> can anyone help?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> sebersole, use pulseaudio
[18:17] <BluesKaj> ?
[18:17] <sebersole> the folks on #phonon suggested using alsa "remove all OSS modules and OSS emulation modules."
[18:17] <sebersole> BluesKaj: no clue :)
[18:17] <BluesKaj> alsa is default already
[18:18] <sebersole> from kde too?
[18:18] <BluesKaj> sebersole, well look in your audio settings
[18:18] <crweb> sebersole: remove pulseaudio from gnome... fixes most things for me
[18:18] <BluesKaj> yup, kde as well
[18:19] <sebersole> crweb: ala http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-remove-pulse-audio-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html ?
[18:19] <BluesKaj> crweb, agreed , but some ppl have fancy audio setups with surround etc so PA works better for them
[18:19] <crweb> sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio   usually does it for me
[18:19] <crweb> I still use my surround sound without pulseaudio
[18:20] <BluesKaj> yes, but there are more options withPA , however there are other setops/apps one can use
[18:21] <sebersole> crweb: does that require a reboot?
[18:21] <cevin> Can any body help me get sound on firfox and My URLs do not work in ThunderBird.
[18:21] <BluesKaj> sebersole, try your audio setup without pulsewau]
[18:21] <crweb> sebersole: no, but simple answer is yes
[18:21] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio
[18:21] <sebersole> crweb: :)  ok, bb
[18:21] <lubse> hello, I just did a kubuntu update
[18:21] <cevin> Where do I find   that
[18:21] <lubse> now my screen is all blurry
[18:22] <eagles0513875> !apt-fix
[18:22] <lubse> how can I make kubuntu detect my gfx card / monitor?
[18:22] <sebersole> unfortunately it normally takes time for the error to show up
[18:22] <BluesKaj> sebersole, you can always reinstall it if you need to
[18:22] <sebersole> hehe
[18:22] <sebersole> i have exceeded my reinstall quota for the month
[18:22] <ForgeAus> quota?
[18:23] <BluesKaj> lubse, which graphics card?
[18:23] <lubse> ehm
[18:23] <BluesKaj> lubse, lspci | grep VGA
[18:23] <lubse> 9800
[18:23] <lubse> but form Gygabite
[18:24] <lubse> well its nVidea made by Gygabyte
[18:24] <lubse> I think
[18:24] <ForgeAus> gigabyte board nvidia chipset probably
[18:24] <lubse> 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] (rev a2)
[18:24] <crweb> I love my 9800GTX+
[18:24] <lubse> no, the board is gigabyte
[18:24] <crweb> still performs like top of theline
[18:25] <lubse> but the gfx board is also gigabyte
[18:25] <crweb> (within a good price range)
[18:25] <lubse> well, at the moment it is shit
[18:25] <ForgeAus> I got builtin Nvidia 9500m  GS in this thing, seems brilliant
[18:25] <ForgeAus> but I don't know how to get it working with lucid yet
[18:25] <lubse> if I move my mouse it is blurry
[18:25] <lubse> moving a window looks really bad
[18:26] <lubse> can't work like this :(
[18:26] <BluesKaj> lubse, look in the kmenu for hardware , an nvidia gui ctrl app should be there
[18:26] <BluesKaj> jockey
[18:26] <lubse> "searching all available drivers"
[18:27] <lubse> its installed already :-/
[18:28] <BluesKaj> did you enable the rcommended driver ?
[18:28] <lubse> yes
[18:28] <lubse> its enabled
[18:28] <lubse> this driver is enabled and currently running
[18:28] <BluesKaj> which one is it ?
[18:29] <lubse> NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version current) [Recommended]
[18:29] <BluesKaj> so what's the prob ?
[18:29] <lubse> my screen is all blurry
[18:30] <lubse> maybe it is the monitor then..
[18:30] <lubse> but why would it be the monitor :-/
[18:30] <lubse> everything was fine 5 minutes ago
[18:30] <crweb> are you still running in a good resolution?
[18:30] <lubse> but now I did this update
[18:30] <BluesKaj> go into sys settings /display , check the res
[18:31] <lubse> doesn't let me pick higher resolution
[18:31] <lubse> I have big screen
[18:31] <lubse> so no
[18:31] <lubse> its not in correct resolution, needs to be 1960 or something, now its 1280
[18:33] <BluesKaj> hmm , my 7600gt looks great on our 46" panasonic tv , not blurry at all , it goes to 1920 x 1200something , dunno exactly offhand
[18:33] <lubse> yes, this gfx card also, because it was working fine 10 minute ago
[18:33] <lubse> I did this update, which asked for restart, and replacement of config files, now its all blurry
[18:34] <BluesKaj> ok lubse run sudo nvidi-xconfig to rewrite the xorg file
[18:34] <BluesKaj> err nvidia-xconfig
[18:35] <lubse> its not there
[18:35] <BluesKaj> actually try kdesudo nvidia-xconfig
[18:35] <lubse> this file
[18:35] <lubse> put vim in betwee?
[18:36] <lubse> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[18:36] <BluesKaj> just run that command in the terminal
[18:36] <lubse> sh: pkg-config: not found
[18:36] <lubse> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[18:37] <BluesKaj> ok, reboot
[18:37] <jimmy51_> i clicked to get debugging symbols for a crash report.  it's taken over an hour and still says 26 minutes left (it's said that all along).  i have a ridiculously fast connection.  what's up with that?
[18:37] <ForgeAus> how do I restart a apt-get installation that died on me?
[18:37] <lubse> okay, rebooting, brb
[18:37] <ForgeAus> its saying that its still locked (asking if another process is using it)
[18:39] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[18:39] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, then, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:40]  * lubse bows deeply, it is fixed
[18:40] <lubse> thanks so much, I have an assignment to hand in, really appreciate the help
[18:41] <BluesKaj> np :)
[18:41] <lubse> hmm, I think the update also removed my java?
[18:42] <amichair> speaking of nvidia and TVs, is there any solution to video tearing on the TV?
[18:42] <BluesKaj> lubse, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:48] <ryan_46> !Themes
[18:52] <ForgeAus> to ftp to a http site you ftp to port 80?
[18:53] <amichair> ForgeAus: ftp and http are two different protocols... what r u trying to do?
[18:54] <ForgeAus> just use krusader instead of whatever the installer for adobe flash is to get a tar.gz from archive.canonical.com's http site
[18:54] <amichair> ForgeAus: http standard port is 80, ftp standard port is 21
[18:55] <ForgeAus> I know that much
[18:55] <amichair> so I misunderstood the question :-)
[18:56] <BluesKaj> those dudes over at ##windows are worse than the linux helpers when I was newb :)
[18:56] <ForgeAus> each time I use port21 it says could not connect to host timed out trying to connect to remote host
[18:56] <ForgeAus> (oddly enough for a timeout it comes back rather fast ith that message)
[18:57] <ForgeAus> and the program downloading the file is using port 80 (maybe its downloading via http?)
[18:57] <thomasfuston> BluesKaj: alot of the linux guys can be worse too , no matter which OS :)
[18:57] <amichair> ForgeAus: sounds like regular http
[18:58] <BluesKaj> thomasfuston, ok, go over there and ask a question about networking like i did
[18:58]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[18:58] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, ssh ?
[18:58] <thomasfuston> BluesKaj: nvm stop this, this a support channel :P
[18:58] <amichair> ForgeAus: did u try a regular browser? or wget?
[19:00] <ForgeAus> actually I don't need to worry... its got 80% thru the other one, I think its going to work now
[19:05] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, using ftp with a browser?
[19:05] <ForgeAus> ahh I know how to remove the lock :) just delete the file lock from /var/cache/apt
[19:05] <ForgeAus> its ok BluesKaj no problem all fixed now
[19:05] <ForgeAus> didn't need it afterall
[19:05] <BluesKaj> ok
[19:11] <bdizzle> Hi, I remember once using a program that would graphically show the disk space in terms of the file sizes
[19:11] <markit> hi, I'm trying to use kftpgrabber to upload some files in a ftp server. I can connect to ftp server, but when I drag local file to the remote file window, nothing happens (nor is in the logs), any idea?
[19:11] <bdizzle> I'm trying to figure out what is eating up all my disk space, and how much of it is junk that I can remove, but I want to be able to see it all in one shot
[19:11] <bdizzle> anyone remember what program that is?
[19:13] <AnnaZ> bdizzle: i can't recommend you a program, but i usually just do "du | sort -n -r | less" on the command line
[19:14] <BluesKaj> bdizzle, df -h
[19:14] <Riddell> bipolar: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq/PPA-keys
[19:16] <bdizzle> ah, found it
[19:16] <bdizzle> http://kdirstat.sourceforge.net/
[19:16] <BluesKaj> bdizzle, eyecandy
[19:16] <iconmefisto> bdizzle: there's file size view in konqueror
[19:17] <bdizzle> BluesKaj, yes, eyecandy, but it helps me see things in relative size
[19:17] <bdizzle> so I can easily spot out things
[19:17] <BluesKaj> bdizzle, just funnin'  :)
[19:18] <freakboy7> geia sas ellines :)
[19:18] <freakboy7> hello to all
[19:19] <BluesKaj> we need alittle lightening up in here , far too serious . was already chastized once for posting 2 sentences that were offtopic :)
[19:19] <bdizzle> lol
[19:19] <bdizzle> well, right now I'm in the process of dl / installing kile
[19:19] <BluesKaj> what's kile?
[19:19] <bdizzle> and I suspect I will have to get an external hard drive soon
[19:19] <bdizzle> LaTeX editor
[19:20] <BluesKaj> ok
[19:20] <amichair> have there been any common reports of karmic->lucid upgrade issues to be aware of?
[19:21] <bdizzle> do a fresh install
[19:21] <bdizzle> I've also had issues with screen brightness, as in the usual Fn + left / right arrow doesn't work
[19:21] <bdizzle> the software registers it, but not the hardware
[19:21]  * ForgeAus shrugs... I've heard some uncommon ones
[19:21] <bdizzle> going into power settings and changing it from there works though
[19:22] <bdizzle> ForgeAus, such as?
[19:22] <freakboy7> why i can not make shut down to ubuntu ultimate 2.5
[19:22] <ForgeAus> someone had (after long uptime) vanishing icons (apps, etc still running but the icons blanked out)
[19:22] <bdizzle> oh nice
[19:22] <amichair> I'm referring to desktops, so I can get away with wireless and fn bugs :-)
[19:23] <bdizzle> heh, wireless was another issue
[19:23] <bdizzle> it worked, but barely. wicd installation wouldn't remove network-manager, had to do that by hand
[19:23] <BluesKaj> amichair, had no probs upgrading thru the net , a fresh install is unecessary in most cases
[19:23] <amichair> I was just guessing... wireless seems to always be an issue :-/
[19:23] <bdizzle> I know :(
[19:23] <alzear> Hello all! I have a question. In my "nvidia x server settings" program I have two screens configured without xinerama (this is the way I want it). But on the second screen I dont get a menu bar, just a black screen. What am I doing wrong?
[19:23] <BluesKaj> wicd merely disables nm
[19:23] <ForgeAus> I assume sessions and config (ie non-oxygen) styles etc is fixed to remember them
[19:24] <bdizzle> BluesKaj, yeah, it wouldn't do that and I had them running side by side, causing them to not work properly (ofcourse)
[19:24] <bdizzle> so I had to remove network-manager and suddenly wireless wored
[19:24] <bdizzle> *worked
[19:25] <amichair> a fresh install would normally be better, but since there servers and stuff running too, it would be too much work/downtime/risk to configure them from scratch, I think.
[19:25] <BluesKaj> bdizzle, did you compile or install from the repos
[19:27] <bdizzle> install from repos
[19:27] <bdizzle> I wouldn't have a clue how to compile anything
[19:27] <bdizzle> I'm lucky to know how to get around CLI in a pinch
[19:29] <riccardo> ciao a tutti
[19:29] <riccardo> qualcuno sa se e possibile installare global menu su kubuntu??
[19:29] <riccardo> grazie
[19:29] <moetunes> !it | riccardo
[19:30] <BluesKaj> anyway bdizzle , i could never get nm to work until lucid , but now it seems fine
[19:30] <riccardo> hi
[19:30] <riccardo> is possible install globalmenu in kubuntu10.04'
[19:30] <riccardo> ??
[19:30] <eagles0513875> !enter | riccardo
[19:31] <pmwisse> to anyone active in developing kubuntu:
[19:31] <iconmefisto> what is globalmenu?
[19:31] <pmwisse> thanks for 10.04!!!!
[19:32] <BluesKaj> bdizzle, I recommend you use google-linux search for anything you'd like to learn in linux , for example "compikil
[19:32] <pmwisse> don't get disturbed by those stupid reviews
[19:32] <pmwisse> that complain about the theme not being fancy enough
[19:32] <henkka-> hi
[19:32] <bdizzle> yeah, I know, working on it
[19:32] <BluesKaj> compile brings up any number of optional tutorials. bdizzle
[19:32] <henkka-> is there a program for linux htat allows repartitioning a HD without formatting entirely
[19:32] <bdizzle> I think its more of a lack of necessity to compile things right now
[19:33] <BluesKaj> henkka-, yes gparted
[19:33] <henkka-> ok i think i downloaded that
[19:33] <BluesKaj> !gparted
[19:33] <henkka-> or I typed
[19:33] <henkka-> sudo apt-get install gparted something like that
[19:33] <henkka-> from a webpage
[19:33] <henkka-> but
[19:33] <FloodBotK3> henkka-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:33] <henkka-> I dont know how to start/use that
[19:33] <henkka-> where can i find it?
[19:33] <alzear> I have a question. In my "nvidia x server settings" program I have two screens configured without xinerama (this is the way I want it). But on the second screen I dont get a menu bar, just a black screen. What am I doing wrong?
[19:34] <bdizzle> what is nepomuk and why is it taking up a gig of my system?
[19:34] <henkka-> I mean
[19:34] <BluesKaj> !patience | alzear
[19:34] <henkka-> how can i start the gparted program
[19:34] <iconmefisto> henkka-: if you can't find it in the menu, alt-F2 and start typing gparted
[19:35] <henkka-> kk
[19:35] <henkka-> thx
[19:35] <alzear> ok, sorry. I will wait
[19:35] <bdizzle> !nepomuk
[19:36] <BluesKaj> nepomuk...bah!
[19:36] <bdizzle> lol
[19:36] <bdizzle> that bad?
[19:37] <iconmefisto> nepomuk searches actually work in lucid, don't they?
[19:37] <henkka-> ahh im so tired
[19:37] <BluesKaj> dunno , I can't be bothered
[19:37] <osvi> hi, i'm trying to install 10.04 amd64
[19:37] <osvi> i select language, keyboard
[19:38] <bdizzle> can I remove nepomuk ?
[19:38] <osvi> then when i go to the partition list, the list is empty! by the way, with cfdisk i can see the partitions
[19:38] <henkka-> is it possible to use Gparted to merge 2 partitions? if one of them is the partition with linux/OS
[19:38] <osvi> why the installer can't detect the partitions?
[19:38] <bdizzle> that is the one thing I wish KDE had, something similar to the windows -> search function, in gui form
[19:39] <BluesKaj> henkka-, what are you really trying to do with the data on those partitions
[19:39] <henkka-> well
[19:39] <henkka-> I tried installing a pirated copy of windows XP today. .but it didnt work even though i tried a couple of times
[19:39] <henkka-> in hte process i ended up creating a 12gb partition on which i installed the xp
[19:39] <iconmefisto> bdizzle: there's kfind, though it's not very good
[19:40] <henkka-> and then another 25gb partition where i wanted to install ubuntu, but i didnt format that partition
[19:40] <henkka-> and the rest was unused space
[19:40] <henkka-> just about
[19:40] <BluesKaj> !pirated
[19:40] <BluesKaj> !pirate
[19:40] <henkka-> so then because windows didnt work i installed Kubuntu, but I didnt know 'the biggest continuous freespace' selectio nwould isntall linux on the remaining space
[19:40] <bdizzle> iconmefisto, thanks, that's kinda what i needed
[19:40] <osvi> can anyone help me installing kubuntu?
[19:40] <henkka-> which resulted to that I got linux on like
[19:41] <henkka-> it says 2.94gb in gparted
[19:41] <henkka-> and it gets kind of full so i
[19:41] <henkka-> can i somehow merge that 25gb partition with this 3gb one?
[19:41] <henkka-> even though linux is here on the 3gb
[19:41] <bdizzle> osvi, if you're not worried about partitions and have all of your data backed up (and have no issues with re-installing windows later on if the need arises), just do a straight install
[19:42] <BluesKaj> BBL
[19:42] <osvi> how can i do a straight install? i can't see my disk from the installer!
[19:42] <henkka-> :D
[19:42] <bdizzle> oh..
[19:43] <iconmefisto> henkka-: you could delete the partitions you're not using, then resize your linux partition. but you'll need to unmount the linux partition to resize it, so you can do that with livecd
[19:43] <henkka-> oh
[19:43] <henkka-> oh well
[19:43] <henkka-> i managed to format the 25gb thing into ext4 format now
[19:43] <henkka-> so it might be usable
[19:43] <henkka-> I asked this before under different circumstances
[19:43] <henkka-> but is it possible to install some linux distro without using USB/CD
[19:44] <henkka-> liek if I want to change away from this Kubuntu to something.. earlier at least 'debian stable' was recommended
[19:44] <bdizzle> is nepomuk really needed? and what is it actually for?
[19:45] <henkka-> what was the name of that
[19:45] <henkka-> UNbooter or soemthing like that
[19:46] <iconmefisto> bdizzle: desktop search (filenames, file contents, contacts, emails, bookmarks, etc, etc) it indexes files to do this. it's great when it's indexed the files you want to search
[19:47] <henkka-> hmm it was UNetbootin
[19:48] <henkka-> ok is it possible to install this Debian stable thing using Unetbootin without a CD
[19:48] <henkka-> ?
[19:48] <seattlegaucho> nepomuk .. i believe ... indexes docs in your machine
[19:48] <bdizzle> ok, so its a needed annoyance for taking up a gig of space?
[19:48] <anuxi> hola
[19:48] <seattlegaucho> bdizzle: you can turn it off check in the advance settings -> services or something like that
[19:49] <iconmefisto> bdizzle: you can disable it in systemsettings, advanced tab, desktop search. don't know if it can be uninstalled
[19:49] <seattlegaucho> anuxi: spanish -> #kubuntu-es
[19:49] <anuxi> seattlegaucho: thanks ;)
[19:50] <seattlegaucho> anuxi: no hay problema :)
[19:50] <pmwisse> did anyone get mobile broadband running from knetworkmanager in 10.04?
[19:50] <pmwisse> I filled in all my data, mooost probably correctly
[19:51] <pmwisse> but clicking on the connection causes nothing to happen
[19:51] <pmwisse> it works with betavine vodafone software
[19:51] <pmwisse> but that is sooooo slow
[19:53] <pmwisse> the modem is detected
[20:07] <bdizzle> okay, KDirStat is extremely useful for figuring out where filespace is taken up and how to delete things
[20:13] <DarthFrog> bdizzle: Give filelight a look-see, too.
[20:13] <iconmefisto> or just filesize view in konqueror
[20:14] <DarthFrog> I wish Nepomuk & Strigi could be scheduled to run only between midnight and 8 AM.
[20:21] <bdizzle> k, checking into it now DarthFrog
[20:34] <markit> what is the "official" ftp client for KDE? Kftpgrabber seems not more developed
[20:41] <kubun> alguein habla español ?
[20:42] <BluesKaj> !es
[20:44] <kubun> se agradece. thanks
[20:50] <snarkfish> kscreensaver non functional in 10.04lts. causes system-settings to segfault
[20:52] <MaxDamage> Hey, guys.
[20:52] <MaxDamage> I accidentally removed my Taskbar, what do I do? o.O
[20:54] <shadeslayer> MaxDamage: right click > Add panel
[20:54] <shadeslayer> then add whatever widgets you want on the panel ;)
[21:02] <DarkriftX> anyone know what would make my rss tab in ktorrent not show up?
[21:03] <DarkriftX> I used to have 3 tabs, all, finished and rss
[21:03] <DarkriftX> now i cant get the rss one without going to the syndication section, whihc i did not have to do before
[21:03] <DarkriftX> 10.04 with latest ktorrent
[21:06] <ForgeAus> hmmm..
[21:59] <cevin> How do I get my URLs to load in FireFox
[22:02] <rork> cevin: System > !patience
[22:33] <zus> do google chrome themes only change as you download individual ones, or can i collect a few and decide when i want a theme?
[22:34] <bdizzle> hi again, I was wondering if anyone had a link to what each specific kwin effect is and how to get them to work?
[22:34] <bdizzle> !cube
[22:34] <bdizzle> and do I need compiz-fusion for them, or just kwin at this point?
[22:40] <amichair> which package installation on cli is equivalent to selecting the latest nvidia drivers (195) from hardware manager?
[22:43] <rome> my escapesequence \a doesn't make me a sound. any suggestions?
[22:46] <bawww> why is Plasma Widgets disabled under System Tray Settings?
[22:48] <AnnaZ> baww, what do you mean?
[22:48] <AnnaZ> i cannot add further plasma widgets but i can turn the ones that have been originally there on and off.
[22:48] <AnnaZ> in the system tray that is. the rest of the panel is free.
[22:51] <AnnaZ> bawww even
[22:52] <zus> bdizzle,  you can just enable compisiting  in system settings>desktop>desktop effects>
[22:52] <bawww> AnnaZ: I can't turn off any of the check marked widgets
[22:53] <AnnaZ> bawww: works for me.
[22:53] <amichair> which package installation on cli is equivalent to selecting the latest nvidia drivers (195) from hardware manager?
[22:53] <bawww> AnnaZ: never mind, i had to unlock the widgets first
[22:54] <bawww> :/
[22:54] <AnnaZ> oh...
[22:54] <AnnaZ> ok :)
[22:54] <bawww> thanks for your help :)
[22:58] <BluesKaj> amichair, the cli isn't the way to install nvidia drivers , your graphical interface (X) has to be stopped first , so you need login to a TTY which is similar to the cli and then you have remove the existing driver , then install the nvidia driver for your card.
[22:58] <amichair> BluesKaj: I always thought cli is a generic term for... command line interfaces (as opposed to GUI). I meant the TTY of course :-)
[23:00] <amichair> BluesKaj: do you happen to know which package it is?
[23:00] <BluesKaj> amichair, yes your right in that sense
[23:00] <BluesKaj> depends on your nvidia card , amichair
[23:01] <amichair> I'm currently using upstream 195.36.15 on karmic. I'm about to upgrade to lucid, and to avoid complications (something mentioned in the known issues), I want to go back to standard packages until after the upgrade completes
[23:02] <BluesKaj> amichair, lspci | grep VGA
[23:03] <amichair> BluesKaj: GeForce 9300
[23:03] <ForgeAus> is there any video cards that are 3D (and 2D?) accelerated that aren't ATI/NVidia?
[23:04] <BluesKaj> amichair, ok, i doubt you'll have a problem with the lucid upgrade with that driver.
[23:04] <rome> my 2.6.32-22 update didn't succeed
[23:04] <rome> i am still on 2.6.32-21
[23:05] <amichair> BluesKaj: so I stay with upstream drivers, upgrade, then after reboot (probably into TTY since kernel change means no video drivers), and reinstall the upstream drivers?
[23:06] <BluesKaj> amichair, kernel source drivers should install ok
[23:07] <amichair> BluesKaj: Alrighty then. I was just a bit worried about that vague known issues blurb, but I suppose I'll just give it a go. Thanks!
[23:07] <BluesKaj> upstream drivers is anew expression to me , is that aprprietary driver from the nvidia site , amichair ?
[23:08] <BluesKaj> proprietary
[23:08] <amichair> BluesKaj: yes, sorry, that's what I meant
[23:08] <amichair> BluesKaj: straight from the nvidia website
[23:08] <SteamInc> #windows
[23:09] <BluesKaj> amichair, when you install lucid , it will remove any conflicting drivers and install the proper kernel source driver
[23:10] <BluesKaj> ok, time for dinner ....BBL
[23:10] <amichair> BluesKaj: ok, I'll hope for the best :-)
[23:10] <amichair> BluesKaj: thanks again :-)
[23:16] <zus> how can i find out what are the details on an mp3? when  i right click on properties i dont see. where the bit rate is.
[23:29] <zus> can some one please tell me  how to check the bit rate on an mp3 and how can i have a video for a wallpaper?
[23:31] <ForgeAus> vlc
[23:31] <ForgeAus> (aka videolan player)
[23:33] <ForgeAus> as for bitrate on mp3 I don't know, possibly kaffeine or even k3b? might give you mp3 info (of course theres cli tools to read all that metadata and stuff)
[23:39] <zus> ForgeAus,  thanks, i was looking all over, how do i get VLC to do it i cant find the option. (10.4)
[23:40] <BluesKaj> zus, sudo aptitude install vlc
[23:41] <zus> i have VLC i just cant find the wallpaper background for videos
[23:41] <BluesKaj> ok, sry ,eye candy isn't my strong suit
[23:42] <_jam> I keep coming back to my computer to find the login screen. It seems like my X session is crashing (my .xsession-errors is 49MB) without crashing X itself (nothing in /var/log/X.org)
[23:43] <timrl> im unable to view Quicktime videos on websites. Im using Kubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx). Any way to solve this problem ?
[23:44] <_jam> suggestions on figuring out which of the 49 MB of errors is causing the problem
[23:44] <timrl> its not working in Mozilla as well as Chrome
[23:44] <zus> BluesKaj,  yeah i still have  the default going but would have been cool if i can get the video wall paper
[23:44] <timrl> do i need to install any package ?
[23:45] <zus> timrl,  have you tried the kubuntu-restricted extras?
[23:45] <BluesKaj> zus, I'm afraid I have no idea
[23:45] <timrl> zus: no i havent...can u please tell me how to use that
[23:46] <zus> BluesKaj,  thats cool, thanks though
[23:46] <zus> timrl,  im think is "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted extras"
[23:46] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-restricted-extras | timrl
[23:47] <timrl> zus BluesKaj thnx..ill try that
[23:47] <zus> BluesKaj,  i must write that down for future notice
[23:47] <BluesKaj> timrl, if want to install , sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:48] <timrl> BluesKaj it seems its already installed
[23:48] <_jam> well, kio_imap4 generates 163910 lines of failure
[23:48] <timrl> i see an 'i' when i do sudo aptitude search kubuntu-restricted-extras'
[23:48] <_jam> that is out of 478717 total
[23:48] <timrl> zus BluesKaj anything else i can try ?
[23:49] <BluesKaj> timrl, sorry for flash , install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:49] <timrl> BluesKaj: ok
[23:49] <timrl> BluesKaj: thats also installed
[23:50] <timrl> BluesKaj: i can see youtube videos, so i think no issue with flash
[23:50] <BluesKaj> right
[23:50] <zus> timrl,  what browser are you using?
[23:50] <BluesKaj> ok try win32codec
[23:50] <timrl> zus Chrome, also tried Firefox
[23:50] <timrl> BluesKaj ok
[23:50] <BluesKaj> or win64codec depending on your platform
[23:50] <timrl> ok
[23:51] <timrl> BluesKaj sudo aptitude search win32codec shows nothing
[23:52] <zus> try  these pages to make sure you have all the repsoitories  and codecs,- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu      |               http://kubuntuguide.org/Lucid
[23:52] <timrl> zus alright
[23:52] <_jam> ugh, why does it have basically everything bit of output from gmplayer in there?!
[23:52] <zus> timrl,  i used them two pages and  use both firefox and chrome and im golden.
[23:52] <zus> BRB all
[23:53] <BluesKaj> timrl, yeah sorry , w32codecs
[23:53] <BluesKaj> forget my windows stuff
[23:55] <timrl> BluesKaj it does not show up any package, do i need to add anything to my sources.lst ?
[23:55] <BluesKaj> timrl, yes, uncomment all the debs , except the cdrom
[23:55] <timrl> BluesKaj: ok
[23:56] <_jam> looks like amarok is generating a few tens of thousands of lines of output as well
[23:56] <BluesKaj> timrl, then sudo aptitude update
[23:56] <timrl> BluesKaj ok
[23:56] <_jam> and it looks like any time I press a global shortcut key (e.g. alt-tab) it gets recorded (which is a little weird)
[23:56] <_jam> did I somehow install some kind of debug version?