[05:39] <erichammond> Getting "Error ID: OOPS-1592N472" trying to copy binary package to a different series on https://launchpad.net/~alestic/+archive/ppa/+copy-packages
[05:54] <ekilfoil> i'm trying to copy an upload from lucid to previous versions, and I'm getting this error: mangler 1.2.beta1~ppa0 in lucid (same version already building in the destination archive for Lucid)
[05:55] <ekilfoil> i'm not sure i understand what that error means
[05:56] <ekilfoil> hmm.. i may have figured it out
[06:18] <ekilfoil> well.. i found out my error was caused by impatience... but now i get this: mangler-devel 1.2.beta1~ppa0 in lucid (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive)
[06:19] <ekilfoil> jeez.. nevermind... my google-fu is weak and i shall go away into the darkness and repent
[06:36] <nigelbabu> wgrant: can you take a poke at that script to see wat's going wrong?
[06:37] <nigelbabu> (only if you have the time)
[06:49] <wgrant> nigelbabu: Just about to have breakfast, but I'll look at it afterwards.
[06:53] <nigelbabu> wgrant: thanks a lot :)
[13:23] <cos^> is it possible to build both karmic and lucid package from same source?
[13:24] <cos^> changelog has distribution name in each entry, i was just wondering if i could have both?
[13:24] <nigelbabu> yes, I believe so
[13:25] <maxb> cos^: No, it isn't
[13:25] <maxb> The fundamental limitation is that you can't do two builds with the same version number.
[13:25] <nigelbabu> maxb: can't we build for lucid from karmic source?
[13:26] <maxb> Because if you did, you'd have two resulting binary packages which were different, but indistinguishable by name+version
[13:26] <cos^> for example on maemo you can upload same source to different autobuilders
[13:26] <nigelbabu> oh yeah, changelogs needs to be updated
[13:26] <maxb> Thus, it's mandatory to tweak the version, thus, it's necessary to upload again
[13:27] <maxb> I am unfamiliar with maemo. How does it distinguish the multiple results from the same source?
[13:28] <cos^> maxb: the different maemo versions have different repos so that packages don't mix even if they have same name & version
[13:28] <cos^> i'm not very familiar how exactly it works, but there are separate autobuilders for each maemo version
[13:28] <cos^> and you can upload the same source for all of them
[13:29] <cos^> well, i think i'll just quit making karmic releases. the users will understand.. :)
[13:43] <cjwatson> thumper: re your answer to https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+question/108475 - is this something that needs to be done by hand each time a vcs-imports branch is upgraded, or does it happen automatically eventually?
[13:45] <cjwatson> thumper: (lp:partman-lvm seems to have had its hosted branches upgraded, but not lp:partman-md)
[13:48] <aboudreault> hi, what the package status "Superseded" mean?
[13:50] <cjwatson> aboudreault: normally that a newer version of the package has been published
[13:51] <aboudreault> cjwatson, so the old package is not deleted automatically anymore ?
[13:53] <cjwatson> superseded packages will be deleted soon if they're still in the published archive
[13:53] <cjwatson> there's a delay
[13:56] <aboudreault> sorry, not sure to understand "soon if they're still in the published archive". I'm seeing a package that I have replaced with a recent version on december 2009, still not deleted
[14:10] <mwhudson> cjwatson: that answer only really applied for that specific time
[14:12] <cos^> hm, any ideas why adding a ppa causes W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A697D653830D1E63 Launchpad?
[14:13] <maxb> Because you didn't add the PPA's key
[14:13] <maxb> ?
[14:13] <maxb> oh, hrm, invalid, not unknown?
[14:13] <cos^> shouldn't software sources automatically add the key?
[14:13] <cos^> i think on some of my pc's it added it
[14:14] <cjwatson> mwhudson: hmm.  do I need to reopen that ticket asking why I still can't push a 2a branch to lp:partman-md, then?
[14:14] <maxb> What's the PPA in question?
[14:16] <mwhudson> cjwatson: oh, hang on
[14:16] <mwhudson> cjwatson: yes, that is something that needs to be done
[14:17] <cos^> maxb: https://launchpad.net/~ville-ranki/+archive/siilihai
[14:17] <mwhudson> cjwatson: requestMirror needs to be called on the branch over the api
[14:17] <mwhudson> (i've done it for this one)
[14:17] <cjwatson> mwhudson: so I can just do that with the script I have?
[14:17] <cjwatson> AIR that isn't permissions
[14:17] <cjwatson> permissioned
[14:17] <mwhudson> cjwatson: right
[14:17] <cjwatson> cool
[14:17] <aboudreault> cjwatson, any idea about the superseded packages ?
[14:17] <mwhudson> anyone can do that for any branch
[14:17] <cjwatson> bit fiddly but ok
[14:17] <mwhudson> cjwatson: the branch is updated now
[14:17] <cjwatson> aboudreault: sorry, not sure
[14:17] <cjwatson> thanks
[14:17] <aboudreault> ok
[14:18] <cjwatson> maybe we don't do death-row on ppas?  but you need an actual soyuz hacker rather than a cardboard one
[14:19] <maxb> cos^: Looks fine to me, perhaps you were just downloading it at the same time it was being updated.
[14:19] <cos^> maxb: possibly. i removed and re-added it in software sources but that didn't help
[14:20] <cos^> i'm behind a http proxy, could it affect key downloading?
[14:20] <cos^> for example karmic's update-manager couldn't use proxy and i had to use a patched version to ugprade
[14:21] <cos^> and software center doesn't work also although synaptic works
[14:24] <wgrant> cjwatson: We do run death row over PPAs.
[14:24] <wgrant> aboudreault: Which PPA, which package?
[14:25] <wgrant> There may be an old binary sitting around. I'll have a look if you give me details.
[14:26] <aboudreault> wgrant, here's my ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntugis-unstable/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=
[14:27] <wgrant> aboudreault: Which package?
[14:27] <wgrant> There are quite a few there!
[14:27] <wgrant> (name, version, seris are what I need)
[14:28] <aboudreault> check all packages with status Superseded.. They are all deprecated.... take mapserver 5.4.2-2* in example
[14:29] <wgrant> aboudreault: Which haven't actually been removed?
[14:30] <aboudreault> all. mapserver - 5.4.2-1build1  , mapserver - 5.4.2-1build2 , mapserver - 5.4.2-2~karmic1 , mapserver - 5.4.1-2~hardy1
[14:31] <aboudreault> (in the 5.4 branch I mean)
[14:31] <aboudreault> I see also old mapserver 5.4.0-* ... same thing. deprecated.
[14:31] <maxb> I have a vague recollection that PPAs keep some number of superseded packages published?
[14:32] <wgrant> They don't.
[14:32] <wgrant> I am investigating.
[14:32] <aboudreault> ok
[14:36] <wgrant> aboudreault: Hm, they look gone for me.
[14:36] <wgrant> I don't see them at http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mapserver/
[14:36] <wgrant> And all of those that you mentioned say that they've been removed ('Removed from disk on YYYY-MM-DD')
[14:40] <aboudreault> Is it normal we still see them in the UI ?
[14:41] <wgrant> aboudreault: Yes. A record of the package is kept forever.
[14:42] <aboudreault> Ok, so everything is fine. Thanks for the explanation.
[15:07] <jtimberman> ETA on OOPS fix for copying between distros in a PPA?
[15:07] <jtimberman> Or is there a workaround?
[15:56] <bcurtiswx> Are there any plans for launchpad to check when submitting a reply to a bug to see if someone posted before you and let you see any edits before posting yours in case they conflict?
[16:01] <micahg> bcurtiswx: bug 28459
[16:18] <bcurtiswx> micahg: an ancient bug.. wow.  thx
[16:25] <noodles775> jtimberman: Hi, as I understand it, the fix should be landing on production during the next 24hrs.
[16:28] <jtimberman> noodles775: i've been hearing that for the last three days.
[16:29] <noodles775> jtimberman: sorry - I'm just going on the info I'm told. The fix has been ready, but there have been some issues landing it (ec2 instances disappearing)
[16:33] <wgrant> win 39
[16:33] <wgrant> Argh.
[16:45] <gnomefreak> any chance 10.10 has been added to PPA?
[16:45] <StevenK> gnomefreak: I think it is enabled.
[16:45] <bigjools> it's enabled
[16:45] <gnomefreak> oh ok thanks i didnt see it ill look again
[16:58] <Nikratio> I want to use the same source package for building karmic and lucid packages in my ppa. I uploaded the lucid package and tried to copy it into "karmic" as "destination series", but I'm getting the error that "[pkg] in lucid (same version already building in the destination archieve for lucid)". What does this mean?
[17:00] <bigjools> Nikratio: it means you need to wait for it to finish building before you can copy it
[17:00] <Nikratio> Why is that? I just want to copy the source package and have it rebuild anyway.. (I selected "Rebuild the copied sources")
[17:01] <bigjools> Nikratio: it's the way the system works - copying a source will always try to create a build for it, so for intra-archive copies you need to copy binaries which are not ready yet
[17:02] <bigjools> ie you can't rebuild a source in the same archive
[17:02] <bigjools> this is a consequence of a pool-based repository
[17:03] <Nikratio> Hmm. I can't say that I understand, but I will just take it as a given. Thanks!
[17:04] <bigjools> Nikratio: there is no way to store more than one binary for a single source version in pool-based repos
[17:34] <nigelbabu> wgrant: um, where you able to find the time to take a peak at the script?
[17:44] <BlindFreakazoid> hi there, this branch says "updating" for five days now: https://code.launchpad.net/~konradgraefe/pidgin-birthday-reminder/trunk :(
[17:44] <BlindFreakazoid> translation import seems to stop working too
[17:44] <BlindFreakazoid> is there anything I can do? Or is this a known/common problem?
[19:25] <purvesh> can some one help me ?
[19:27] <purvesh> how can i start my own new translation Group. ,purvesh
[22:15] <_kb9vqf> bigjools: Any news on the fix for the bug preventing copying of packages from a staging PPA to a distribution PPA?
[22:16] <wgrant> _kb9vqf: The fix has landed on db-devel.
[22:16] <wgrant> So it should be cherrypicked soon.
[22:16] <wgrant> (that is, it landed three hours ago)
[22:16] <_kb9vqf> wgrant: So I should try again tomorrow?
[22:16]  * _kb9vqf has had the KDE3/Trinity release held up for a week now because of this bug :-(
[23:16] <purvesh> can some one help me to opening new Translation Team ?
[23:20] <thumper> purvesh: the translation guys tend to work european time
[23:20]  * thumper knows very little about translations
[23:21] <purvesh> thumper, hey thanx for reply. i m from india so can u tell me after how many hours they are available ?
[23:22] <thumper> purvesh: well, jtv normally comes online in about 6-7h from now
[23:22] <thumper> purvesh: danilo is at UTC+2 TZ
[23:22] <purvesh> ok
[23:22] <purvesh> thumper, hey you can help me ?
[23:23] <thumper> purvesh: probably not (if it is to do with translations)
[23:23] <thumper> I know about code though
[23:24] <purvesh> thumper, see i have just Fill the support Request just help me for filling that . if u dont mind ?
[23:25] <thumper> what are you filling out?
[23:26] <purvesh> thumper, see the private message
[23:30] <abli> Hi! when submitting to my launchpad ppa, I got a "Rejected: Cannot build any of the architectures requested: any" error, even though the same got accepted to before, and for other distributions
[23:31] <abli> Did something special happen? I don't see what I did differently to get this error
[23:34] <thumper> abli: sorry no idea, and all the guys that deal with this are at UDS
[23:37] <abli> The main question is, is it something wrong with launchpad, or with my submission?
[23:40] <crimsun> please pastebin your dsc and _source.changes
[23:44] <easter_egg> Hi again, someone can check this link https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/110664 for me?
[23:45] <easter_egg> I should to assignee this question to another?
[23:46] <thumper> easter_egg: ubuntu mailing lists are not normally handled through launchapd
[23:46] <thumper> easter_egg: but through ubuntu.com
[23:46] <thumper> and the community team
[23:54] <lfaraone> How long does it take for an upload to be installed in the archive after soyez gives confirmation?
[23:58] <abli> crimsun, .dsc: http://pastebin.com/HWMhYXuL  _source.changes: http://pastebin.com/51UbrruY  -- note that the exact same source package built correctly for hardy, lucid, etc. (only difference being the distribution's name in the debian/changelog file)
[23:59] <ajmitch> lfaraone: weren't you uploading to -proposed?
[23:59] <lfaraone> ajmitch: yep, just realized that.
[23:59] <ajmitch> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= shows the queue