[00:00] And now meerkat is not even a good fallback, before ther was at least ibex that was short and sweet... But anyways, I'm probably the only one obsessiong about it, so nevermind [00:01] yeah [00:01] I said that yesterday [00:01] names are tooo big [00:01] I think the furry names need to go away [00:01] it's completely unprofessional [00:01] like the porn wallpaper a few releases back [00:01] LOL [00:01] use the numbers [00:03] hey, those wallpapers were the best! [00:03] humm [00:03] did I miss something ???? [00:03] pr0n? [00:04] anyone here good at packaging? It's actually on debian testing that i have a problem, package compiles with libdb4.8 but links against libdb4.7. [00:04] nothing like a good looking lass when you login into your system [00:05] BUGabundo: oh, you know - the wallpapers from older releases where nice looking ladies were smiling.. [00:08] don't recall that [00:19] zekoZeko: If not here, maybe #ubuntu-motu, or #ubuntu-packaging, but then again, uds busies a lot of the regulars nowatimes [00:21] arand: nevermind, i think i got it, rebuilding the package now. [00:21] or not :( [00:43] To the bed sheets , Mi Lord! [00:57] bummer... plymouth doesn't get along well with uvesafb. [01:02] also weird: xorg-edgers plus savage gives abi mismatch. [01:02] (EE) module ABI major version (6) doesn't match the server's version (7) [01:29] I'm trying out Unity...this is really neat. === uRock is now known as I_Love_Beer === Omancho is now known as Lilarcor === red2kic is now known as chrislikestoroll [05:23] So what is Ubuntu Maverick? [05:24] the next release, eh? [05:27] !mm [05:27] Really? They just released Lucid and they're going to release a new release in 6 months? [05:27] !maverick [05:27] Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 2010 - See http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/336 for announcement - Developer summit: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS [05:27] !release | BPower [05:27] BPower: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [05:27] What is Lucid? [05:27] 10.__ [05:28] !lucid [05:28] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 [05:28] So 10.04 will be supported for 5 years and 10.10 will be supported for 18 months. [05:28] right? [05:29] 5 years on the server, 3 on the desktop [05:29] and 10.10 is not an LTS [05:29] !lts | BPower [05:29] BPower: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) [05:29] ya i know LTS, I should have just said that. [05:29] haha [05:30] Interesting. [05:31] Thanks all :) Peace [05:35] so testdrive doesn't work for maverick yet? [05:38] can someone help me with a flash player full screen issue? [05:39] what's the issue? [05:39] well when i click the full screen icon it video freezes and does not work in full screen [05:41] can't say i've ever run into that... [05:44] anyone else know to solve the flash full screen problem? [05:49] someone alive here?????//// [05:54] heh, a lot of people are at UDS, so most of the official channels will be slow this week [05:56] do you know how to install flash player on lucid? [06:01] ubuntu-restricted-extras [07:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/437429 -- interesting. setting /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins/media-keys/active to true works. [07:10] Launchpad bug 437429 in gdm "No GUI to configure/disable login sound" [Wishlist,Fix released] [07:12] there wasn't? [07:14] I'm not sure what the state is now... but I do know that the hotkeys don't work at gdm. [07:14] Volume, mute, and brightness. [07:14] Setting that gconf key makes them work. [07:15] is this for maverick? [07:16] hmm, it's not maverick-specific, but I suppose they could fix it in maverick. [07:16] !blueprints [07:16] Want to suggest or discuss ideas of a future project/feature? With Launchpad you can track blueprints (feature specification summaries) from discussion through review, approval, and implementation. See https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ [07:16] * DanaG goes to google. [07:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat [07:18] I read that thing from Shuttleworth about app indicators... interesting idea, but could be messy. [07:19] I'm using some gnome-panel addins that put the window title and buttons (on the right) in the top menu bar. [07:19] the windicators? [07:19] er, panel. [07:19] http://gnome-look.org/content/mycontent.php?PHPSESSID=76536a773d74a9d34800a80dfd480b68 [07:25] dead link [07:25] I'm not going to register an account just to look at a gnome-look.org screenshot :p [07:25] cwillu: heh, that was my thought exactly when i clicked the link [07:26] even if they do accept openid.. [07:26] stupid gnome-look. [07:26] http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=103732 [07:28] ah, but windicators won't include that many indicators (most likely), looks like they just took the panel and moved it to the title bar in that pic [07:28] yep [07:29] This is the other way around.... the title bar joins the panel. [07:29] that's what they'll do for netbooks [07:29] Though, the title applet isn't draggable -- and if you set it to DejaVu Sans 8.5, returning to the preferences dialog tends to do very bad things. [07:29] That is, it shows font name as uninitialized memory. [07:30] I actually use that thing even on my 1920x1200 laptop. [07:30] except winidicators will be next to panel indicators which seems confusing since they'll look the same (at least for the screenshots i've seen) [07:30] And by "very bad things", here's an example: on my netbook, one time it made the preferences window 5 screens wide... exceeded maximum texture size (and so killed compiz)... and then locked up the intel GPU. [07:31] And on fglrx, it once brought down the entire kernel -- hard-lock with heartbeat dead. [07:33] news flash: closed source video driver causes crash; details at 11:00 :p [07:37] i am relatively impressed with nvidia drivers though; i've had little trouble with them (much less than those with ati, haha) [07:38] ddecator: try that applet on for size. [07:38] I'm curious to see how nvidia will handle it. [07:38] which one? [07:38] The title one that killed stuff. =þ [07:40] heh, i'd rather not rish killing everything =p [07:42] risk... [07:43] * ddecator can't type tonight [08:36] E: flashplugin-installer: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 anyone know what the heck is this msg? [08:39] is there more to it? [08:40] no just that much [08:41] hard to tell without more of a context as to what the problem it ran into was [08:42] well this came up when i tried to remove flashplugin player [08:42] oh, you tried to remove it? did you remove flashplugin-nonfree? just removing the installed doesn't remove flash [08:42] installer* [08:42] well i dont have nonfree installed [08:43] just installer [08:43] i actually installed openjdk-6 to fix smthng in flsah but then had to remove it [08:43] after which my flash does not work [08:44] so i am trying to remove and reinstall it [08:44] ah, then try installing flashplugin-nonfree [08:44] tried it did not work [08:45] what happens when you try to load a flash video? [08:45] E: flashplugin-installer: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 [08:45] E: flashplugin-nonfree: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured [08:45] this is the msg when i tried to install nonfree [08:45] huh, i wonder what the dependency problem is.. [08:47] if this doesnot work i have to reinstall ubuntu once again [08:48] how are you trying to install it? [08:48] tried both synaptic and terminal [08:48] and synaptic doesn't say anything about the dependencies before you try to install it? [08:49] both give me this error msg [08:50] i guess i will reinstall [08:50] what if you use synaptic to mark the installer for reinstallation? [08:50] same thing [08:51] odd. i know there is a command to resolve dependency issues, but i can't remember what it is [08:51] E: flashplugin-installer: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 [08:51] E: flashplugin-nonfree: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured [08:51] any clues or ideas? [08:52] if you can resolve the dependency issue, then it should work [08:52] but i dont know what dependency issue it is having [08:53] i screwed up so much stuff [08:53] right, i'm trying to find the command that automatically resolves dependencies [08:53] try running 'sudo apt-get check' [08:53] went to flashplugin-player / and removed libflashplayer.so [08:53] that will tell if you there are unmet dependencies [08:54] nishanth@nishanth-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get check [08:54] [sudo] password for nishanth: [08:54] Reading package lists... Done [08:54] Building dependency tree [08:54] Reading state information... Done [08:55] dang [08:55] alright, lets see what the dependencies are... [08:55] as i said i might have screwed so many things [08:56] Strap your Pony, and bedazzle [08:56] how can i see that? [08:56] nishanth: just to make sure, when you try to install flashplugin-nonfree, you're not marking to change flashplugin-installer, are you? [08:56] hey BUGabundo_remote [08:57] there is no such thing as marking to change [08:58] well i mean marking it uninstall or anything [08:58] you mean to remove [08:58] right [08:58] or remove completely? [08:59] either [08:59] yes idid that earlier [09:00] nonfree is removed but installer is not being removed [09:00] but when you try to install flashplugin-nonfree, you're not marking flashplugin-installer for removal at the same time? [09:00] nope [09:00] ok good [09:01] you can check to see if these are installed: nspluginwrapper, ia32-libs, debconf, wget, fontconfig [09:01] those are the depends for flashplugin-installer. flashplugin-nonfree only depends on flashplugin-installer [09:02] nspluginwrapper ....check [09:02] ia32-libs...check [09:03] debconf...check [09:03] wget..check [09:03] fontconfig...check [09:03] yup all exist [09:04] hm, then idk why flashplugin-nonfree won't install. you can get flash from the adobe site if you don't want to do a reinstall (unless someone else has any other ideas on how to resolve the issue) [09:04] no one actually has any [09:06] well this is a slow time of day. you can try asking in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-beginners for help since those are more support-oriented [09:06] thanx anyway [09:52] what does it actually hang with during the install? [09:52] or crash, or whatever? [09:52] flashplugin-installer: post-installation script returned error exit status 2 [09:53] what returns 2 in /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-installer.postinst [09:54] changing set -e to set -xe in that file and reconfiguring may give you a clue [09:54] nis^^^ [09:54] bah, gone === BUGabundo_remote is now known as BUGabundo_angry [11:55] well..to start testing maverick, we need to wait alpha1? [11:56] no [11:56] I'm already on MM [11:56] oh...are there some updates? do you advice a clean setup or an upgrade from luci? [11:56] *lucid [11:57] upgraded [11:59] thanks..last thing.. just editing sources.list? [12:00] yep === BUGabundo_angry is now known as BUGabundo_lunch [12:04] thanks.. :) [12:15] mmhhh..what was that app to jail ssh users? that created jailed folder for all users? === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGabundo_remote === mawst is now known as Ignatius === Ignatius is now known as mawst === marcriera is now known as permalac === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:23] If a package in a dev release of ubuntu won't install because of conflicts, should I raise a bug on launchpad or just wait for it to be fixed? [17:24] dstansby: depends on the pacakge but normally good to wait [17:25] dstansby: all it is is its missing a depends being built (race to the finish line) type thing [17:25] And I'd happily read the topic, but there's a bug in empathy that stops me from doing so :( [17:26] sorry dont have it installed but when you try to install it do you get "it wanting to remove packages" or "broken packages" [17:27] dstansby: the topic should be displayed by typing '/topic' too [17:28] and I have a dozen packages or so with borken depends right now, so I doubt that it's a bug [17:28] Usage: /topic : set the topic of the current conversation [17:28] :( [17:28] That's what I got from /topic [17:28] dstansby: And another general advice is to find a better irc client than empathy [17:29] nod [17:29] dstansby: Even freenode webchat is preferrable :( [17:30] * gnomefreak more concerned about why you expected it to work [17:30] gnomefreak: Maverick or Empathy? [17:30] Empathy in Maveric [17:31] I'd expect it to be able to show me whole topic! [17:31] dstansby: did it work in Lucid? [17:32] gnomefreak: No [17:32] hi all -- about DynDNS -- i have a fix IP address linked to an URL, but am unable to use either -- http finds my remote server, using the current DHCP WAN IP address, ok -- so how do I use DynDNS -- i have no easier way to put it [17:32] The fix is upstream [17:32] than file a bug on it or before you do that find out what it is set to use. did you try just /t [17:33] monkey_dust: This channel is for Maverick discussion/support only, if you're asking about Lucid, please use #ubuntu or #ubuntu-server [17:33] monkey_dust: for general questions please join #ubuntu. this is only for Maverick devel [17:33] gnomefreak: I've ubuntu-bugged it, found an existing bugreport and changed the status of it from fix released to fix committed [17:34] aah, my window is expanding as I type [17:34] I really do need a new irc client [17:34] we have plenty to choose from [17:34] tnx gnomefreak [17:34] np [17:35] * gnomefreak smoke [17:36] dstansby1: erm, which bug #? [17:36] Back in pidgin [17:36] With a different username for some reason [17:38] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/392512 [17:38] Launchpad bug 392512 in empathy "No way to read long irc topic" [Low,Fix committed] [17:55] grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [17:57] booooo [18:25] i have a laptop cooler pad on my laptop(USB) why would it be constantly shutting off and on? Also, I notice the laser on my optical mouse, is constantly going dim/bright/dim/bright.. but appears tobe functional all the time [18:25] i have a laptop cooler pad on my laptop(USB) why would it be constantly shutting off and on? Also, I notice the laser on my optical mouse, is constantly going dim/bright/dim/bright.. but appears tobe functional all the time [18:26] your running maverik? [18:27] optical mice are suppost to go dim/bright/dim/bright [18:27] no, thought i was un #ubuntu.. running 10.04... [18:27] they are?.. i've never noticed it before [18:27] ya, only when they are being moved, do they stay bright [18:27] otherwise they stay dim [18:28] so normal usage would keep going back and forth [18:28] hm [18:28] ok [18:28] so why would my laptop cooling pad constantly shut off and on/(i thought the problems might be related, apparently not) [18:29] it might not be your issue, cause the laptop cooler points to other issues :) [18:29] it could only be two things I would think of [18:29] not enough power on your usb ports [18:29] is it possible to start using Maverick right now or i have to wait until June? [18:29] or it doesn't id itself on the usb bus, so linux keeps shutting of that usb port [18:29] I thought people where already using it :) [18:30] patdk-wk, #2 seems the most likely, because it works fine under XP [18:33] patdk-wk, it is ok to sed s/lucid/maverick/g < /etc/apt/sources.list > /etc/apt/sources.list ? Because update-manager -c -d doesn't say that there's a new Ubuntu release... [18:37] patdk-wk, so any idea how to change that? [18:41] nitsuga: I was told to update sources.list the way you said for my testing installation, then do apt-get update, then spt-get dist-upgrade. It worked for me. [18:41] apt-get, not spt-get [19:01] Hi, I'm having a problem that really needs to be fixed... I have no input from my mic on my Intel HDA sound card using coded Realtek ALC275, G45 DEVIBX [19:01] I've tried everything and I'm looking for a workaround, anything will do... [19:03] I'm running latest build of ubuntu lucid on a Sony Vaio VPC11X9E btw [19:04] Sweet: Lucid support is in #ubuntu, this is for Maverick development support. [19:05] arand: sry my mistake [19:05] Sweet: General advice is to start alsamixer and muck about trying to find a good mic setting [19:05] arand: been there [19:05] arand: didn't work [19:15] arand: could you help me out anyway? cause I have no luck on the #ubuntu channel... === Gerrit is now known as Arsanerit [19:16] Sweet, something that happened to me abut this is that by some reason the imput was set in digitl mode instad of analogical [19:16] sound preferences -> hardware -> Profile [19:16] Sweet: That's about as much help as I can give, I don't have much experience with it either. Always useful to use the forums etc. as well, if you get no luck on irc [19:17] Nitsuga: It says Analog Stereo Duplex [19:18] Sweet, mine was in Digital stereo input (IEC958) + Analgo Stereo outut, put it in analog stereo duplex and worked [19:18] but it seems it is ok for you [19:19] Sweet, also check "connector" in the Input tab [19:19] Nitsuga: yup, I'm farely sure it has something to do with my Intel HDA sounds card which uses Realtek ALC275 and G45 DEVIBX [19:20] Nitsuga: Input tab says: Internal Audio Analog Stereo [19:21] Sweet, Sound problems have always benn a mystery for me :P. Try different configurations and it may work. [19:22] Nitsuga: OK thank you for your time [19:23] Looking for an ALSA expert... ^^ [19:26] weird, rhythmbox stopped supporting multimedia keys (in lucid) and it started auto-opening when I plug in my cell-phone in mass-storage mode... so I removed and changed to banshee and all is good :) === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_fewd === BUGabundo_fewd is now known as BUGabundo [20:53] time to try unity [20:53] wish me luck [20:54] we got french word for that ... :o) [20:54] BUGabundo: dont [20:54] bah [20:54] Well, unity makes a whole lot of sense, but at the same time, donotwant. [20:54] BUGabundo: it wont start.. just a white screen [20:55] won't let me open a new accoutn for my user [20:55] shadeslayer: I'm on MM [20:55] not lucid [20:55] oh [20:55] grrr [20:55] now how do I set GDM to allow multi logins !?!? [20:55] it used to be easy === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ [20:55] Tried it on a virtualbox, slow as sirup, so much for light :> [20:56] where's the darn setting to allow mutli logins!?!??! [20:57] [daemon] [20:57] AutomaticLoginEnable=true [20:57] AutomaticLogin=bugabundo [20:57] TimedLoginEnable=false [20:57] TimedLogin=bugabundo [20:57] TimedLoginDelay=10 [20:57] DefaultSession=gnome [20:57] ow.. [20:57] BUGabundo: tried googling? [20:58] hehe [20:58] I'm in a room filled with "experts" [20:58] * shadeslayer_ thinks whether he should upgrade to maveric [20:59] BUGabundo: whats the kernel version? [20:59] again?? [20:59] you keep asking that [20:59] !info linux [20:59] BUGabundo: uh.. no i didnt.. [20:59] BUGabundo: this is the first time i asked that i think :P [20:59] Linux BluBUG 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:09:38 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux [20:59] darn [21:00] ill have to loout [21:00] back in a few min [21:00] so hows maverick atm? [21:00] linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.32.21.22 (maverick), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia all armel) [21:01] wow the bot is slowwww [21:01] and why don't I have .22 ????? [21:03] shadeslayer_: Not much to look at, really, some syncs, but nothing major at all... [21:03] ok [21:03] shadeslayer_: fsck works though, as opposed to lucid :) [21:04] arand: yeah,fsck halts at 70 % in lucid [21:05] shadeslayer_: it doesn't halt [21:06] it goes uber slow [21:06] I've sat through it :p [21:06] Ian_Corne: me too :P [21:06] heh.. after just 2 days,i have a additional 200 MB to download :P [21:07] 2 days ago,lucid -> maverick == 100 MB,now its 300 :P [21:08] oh wth.. ill upgrade :) [21:08] safe-upgrade or dist-upgrade? [21:09] shadeslayer_: shadeslayer_ well, the mountall fix is in proposed at least... [21:10] shadeslayer_: sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade" afaik. [21:11] I admit: great work [21:11] its snappier, looks good, and is really fast [21:11] needs some work with apps [21:11] but I guess its not meant to have so many of them [21:12] I still can't find how to add more stuff to the Dock [21:12] if Super+Tab worked, I could just use this WM [21:12] what is the name of the search-applet? [21:14] arand: what if i have extra ppa's enabled? [21:14] do i replace them with maverick too? [21:14] no [21:14] you have to be sure there's a ppa version for MM [21:15] either comment it out until there is one [21:15] or live lucid, if that works fine [21:15] hehe.. [21:15] I NEED GNOME DO [21:15] well some of the PPA's do have maverick.. and some done [21:15] why aint it working !? [21:15] BUGabundo: docky ftw [21:15] not in Unity [21:15] ahah [21:16] ok it looks good [21:16] now back to where I have what I need/want [21:16] brb [21:16] arand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/431867/ [21:18] back [21:18] zniavre: it's not an applet [21:18] what is it ? [21:19] arand: so should i go ahead? or is something not right? [21:19] shadeslayer_: Wut!? you got ppas in sources.list? and btw, you probably shouldn't remove libboost, I would assume... [21:20] yeah i have some extra ppa.. not in sources.list though [21:20] Err http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick/main Packages seems to suggest it... hm? [21:21] arand: http://pastebin.com/PUnuuyfi [21:22] ah right [21:22] kubuntu ppa.. [21:22] shadeslayer_: I'm not sure, and I'm not sure I want to really advice further... [21:22] arand: ok [21:22] anyways ive gtg.. [21:22] bye [21:23] Dang, ppas in sources.list messes things up badly :( [21:37] I was thinking that there should be a "dev" version which is a symlink t the lestest development release. That way we don't have to change our /etc/apt twice a year :P [21:37] the real benefit is that the PPAs would have inmediate support for the lastest dev release if they want to. [21:38] and we would have a rolling release-like version === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_Chuck [21:56] BUGabundo_Chuck: You're running an old kernel btw [21:56] lucid has -22 [21:56] and gnome do does work [21:56] just not the shortcut [21:56] $ apt-cache policy linux [21:56] Installed: 2.6.32.21.22 [21:56] Candidate: 2.6.32.21.22 [21:56] oh [21:56] lucid??? [21:56] lolol [21:56] you need to keep up with times [21:56] guess I need a reboot [21:56] $ apt-cache policy linux [21:56] linux: [21:56] Installed: (none) [21:56] Candidate: 2.6.32.22.23 [21:56] yes [21:56] but if lucid has a newer version [21:57] you're just not uptodate :p [21:57] *** 2.6.32.21.22 0 [21:57] 500 http://mirrors.fe.up.pt/pub/ubuntu/ maverick/main Packages [21:57] 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main Packages [21:57] clearely out of date! :p [21:58] * BUGabundo_Chuck aptitude updates [21:58] I don't think there's enough work being done on maverick yet to make all changes in lucid also happen in maverick [21:58] especially as that's just pointing to the default version [21:58] says the same [21:59] weird as heck [21:59] maverick has 2.6.34, but linux-meta doesn't point to it as default yet [22:00] lucid-updates has the version that Ian_Corne is seeing [22:01] ajmitch: but I'm in MM [22:01] yes, and? :) [22:01] shouldn't MM have what ever goes to -update/-proposed? [22:02] not necessarily [22:02] shrug [22:02]