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[15:57] <bencrisford> afternoon :)
[16:04] <nigelbabu> bencrisford: heya
[16:04] <bencrisford> nigelbabu: im home in time for the last session :)
[16:04] <bencrisford> woo
[16:05] <nigelbabu> you have plenty to choose from
[16:06] <bencrisford> nigelbabu: yeah :D
[16:20] <czajkowski> jussi: ping
[16:22] <pleia2> czajkowski: he's helping present an IRC session
[16:24] <czajkowski> ah ok
[16:24] <czajkowski> nm so
[17:41] <bencrisford> qense: good day 2? :D
[17:44] <qense> bencrisford: Yeah, was fun today.
[17:44] <bencrisford> :)
[17:44] <qense> Felt like I've been abl e to do a more constructive contribution.
[17:45] <qense> bencrisford: How's remote participation?
[17:45] <bencrisford> qense: not great :D, only got home in time for the last session
[17:45] <bencrisford> I say not great, the icecast+IRC  is awesome
[17:45] <bencrisford> but I havent had much chance
[17:45] <bencrisford> to use it ;)
[17:48] <qense> aww
[17:50] <Technoviking> bencrisford: same here, I have meetings most mornings. By the time I'm done UDS is done for the day.
[17:51] <bencrisford> Technoviking: :/
[17:55] <nigelbabu> I'm finding remote participation awesome
[17:55] <nigelbabu> except for the part where the room is waiting for me to respond to something
[17:55] <jturek> qense: as a newcomer to #uds  I think the remote participation is working out pretty well
[17:55] <jturek> I have some ideas since I do voip in my daytime life that we could make this more realtime and active
[17:56] <jturek> instead of Icecast, we could do a two way audio feed.. if people wanted to talk
[17:56] <jturek> wouldn't be hard to put an asterisk conference server up
[17:56] <bencrisford> jturek: agreed :)
[17:57] <nigelbabu> bandwith issues might pop up I feel
[17:57] <jturek> I don't think so
[17:57] <jturek> Its all centralized
[17:57] <jturek> one feed per room
[17:57] <qense> jturek: I am afraid that would complicate the conversation as you would have no visual language helping with keeping the session audible. More people would start speaking all at the same time without knowing whether someone else wants to start too.
[17:58] <jturek> just like any other conference call lol
[17:58] <nigelbabu> I was just getting there
[17:58] <jturek> what are the speeds you guys have there at UDS?
[17:59] <jturek> i mean,  could you handle a 100k up and down per room?
[17:59] <jturek> you already are pushing out icecast at what..64 or 32 k right?
[17:59] <qense> jturek: I don't think it would be very easy to set up two-way audiostreams.
[18:00] <jturek> i guess the other thing is to have a Qik type session in each room, so at least we can *see* :)
[18:00] <jturek> which asterisk supports video as well
[18:01] <jturek> idk, i can setup a proof of concept setup sometime and you guys can try it out
[18:01] <jturek> i live everyday trying to coordinate with teams around the world at my day job... (sucks)
[18:02] <jturek> but - IRC /Icecast is working great :)
[18:02] <jturek> thanks!
[18:02] <qense> good!
[18:02] <qense> Don't thank me, thank Canonical IS!
[18:02] <jturek> (had to put something positive in there.. because really, it is awesome)
[18:03] <jturek> I need to make an iphone app for this next year
[18:03] <jturek> or next UDS i should say
[18:03] <jturek> ice cast can stream while the chat displays on the screen
[18:03] <maco> jturek: even with the one-way icecast they have the bandwidth is never enough
[18:04] <maco> even when uds is at google, the link is completely saturated
[18:04]  * nigelbabu is addicted to "We're not going to take it"
[18:04] <nigelbabu> that video was awesome
[18:04] <nigelbabu> maco: oh, hey there :)
[18:04] <nigelbabu> yes, there are breaks in the stream often
[18:05] <nigelbabu> I've got breaks a lot of times over te past 2 days, first session was the only one that was ok
[18:06] <jturek> i am on a 100meg link here at work, so.. sounds awesome lol
[18:06] <maco> its not on /our/ ends that the dropping happens :P
[18:06] <nigelbabu> I know
[18:06] <nigelbabu> thats the whole point
[18:06] <maco> ive been to uds before. large chunks of time are spent bugging people to get the wireless back up, find more bandwidth, etc
[18:07] <nigelbabu> oooh
[18:07] <maco> the hotels and conference centers aren't equipped to handle 300 geeks + a dozen streams + people pushing packages & pulling isos
[18:07] <nigelbabu> +1
[18:07] <qense> Wireless in the lobby can't handle us.
[18:07] <maco> its not exactly a common thing for them to need to do :P
[18:07] <nigelbabu> people hammered the ppa yesterday
[18:08] <qense> It's pretty decent in the conference centre and the auditorium though.
[18:08] <qense> But the lobby...
[18:08] <maco> qense: yeah in barcelona when canonical IS convinced the hotel to turn off their wireless and just let them set something up that helped a /lot/
[18:09] <qense> The wireless of hotels doesn't work for people that are actually using it.
[18:09] <nigelbabu> maco: ouch, *shudder* how bad was it before that?
[18:09] <qense> Anyway, I'm off to diner!
[18:09] <qense> see you!
[18:11] <maco> nigelbabu: a webpage would load every 5 minutes or so...
[18:11] <nigelbabu> maco: WOO