| bjsnider | Sarvatt, what do you mean they added klingon language support? | 00:27 |
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| Sarvatt | bjsnider: http://rbtcollins.wordpress.com/2010/02/06/adding-new-languages-to-ubuntu/ | 00:32 |
| bjsnider | um | 00:34 |
| bjsnider | at least they're not wasting time creating solutions-in-search-of-problems | 00:35 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: it would be nice if you managed to persuade him either to maintain the package or drop the changes :) | 05:33 |
| Bernardo | hi | 05:48 |
| lucazade | hi | 08:51 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, you around? | 09:05 |
| lucazade | Bernardo ping | 09:14 |
| outlaw45 | hi... | 09:52 |
| outlaw45 | anyone still working on GMA500? | 09:55 |
| lucazade | hi | 10:00 |
| lucazade | outlaw45 | 10:02 |
| outlaw45 | hi | 10:04 |
| outlaw45 | I'm at work at the moment, so reacting might be at bit slow now and then ;) | 10:04 |
| lucazade | me too.. so np | 10:05 |
| lucazade | have you seen bugs report on google code? | 10:06 |
| lucazade | there are all the remaining bugs | 10:07 |
| lucazade | brb | 10:10 |
| outlaw45 | added a workaround to the forum for buf 17 | 10:10 |
| outlaw45 | bug.. | 10:10 |
| outlaw45 | just added a link to the bug report | 10:10 |
| outlaw45 | @lucazade: added a workaround to the forum for bug 17, also linked it in the bug report | 10:25 |
| outlaw45 | I believe we have to concentrate on bug 16, if we fix that we can check if the other bugs still exists | 10:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 16 in rosetta ""Swedish" and "Swedish (Sweden)" should be the same language" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16 | 10:26 |
| lucazade1 | outlaw45... you are right.. we should fix that bug although it's a pain in the ass | 10:29 |
| outlaw45 | the backtrace you added to the report, is that the same I posted here a few days ago? | 10:30 |
| outlaw45 | I think we need the expertice from the people on this channel to debug this.. | 10:31 |
| lucazade1 | similar but not the same... some rows missing like "miDoCopy" | 10:31 |
| outlaw45 | I read something from bernardo about gdb (?) but I'm not familiar with it... | 10:31 |
| outlaw45 | ok.. I'll try to look at it tonight | 10:32 |
| lucazade1 | neither do i | 10:32 |
| lucazade1 | btw let's try to fix what we know like blacklisting modules (vga16fb, i915) and adding indicator to deb packages | 10:33 |
| lucazade1 | also investigate on acpi errors that break battery status and brightness hotkeys | 10:35 |
| outlaw45 | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Xorg/Debugging, at the section about KMS-related issues | 10:35 |
| lucazade1 | dkms is broken as well | 10:35 |
| outlaw45 | they mention the boot parameter 'drm.debug=15' | 10:35 |
| outlaw45 | if you reinstall the kernel module? | 10:36 |
| outlaw45 | it installed fine at my system yesterday, but that was a fresh install | 10:36 |
| lucazade1 | on a kernel upgrade the kernel module is not be compiled | 10:36 |
| outlaw45 | owh ok.. | 10:42 |
| outlaw45 | I'll first updated the kernel and then ran the script :p | 10:43 |
| outlaw45 | gladly.. | 10:43 |
| lucazade1 | brb | 10:51 |
| outlaw45 | have to go to a meeting | 12:17 |
| outlaw45 | be back when I can ;) | 12:18 |
| Pelo | morning folks , anyone around ? | 12:30 |
| Pelo | I'M running ubuntu 10-04 on a intel core i5 650 with an integrated gpu (clarksdale) | 12:31 |
| Pelo | I can't use compiz and video playback is choppy when I move other windows around regardless of the quality of the video | 12:32 |
| Pelo | oddly enough, I have none of these problem if I run 10.04 as a live session ( from the cd ) | 12:32 |
| Pelo | compiz works fine , and video works great | 12:33 |
| Pelo | ... | 12:33 |
| Pelo | how can I install the driver from the live cd and use that instead of what I'm guessing is the intel driver | 12:33 |
| Pelo | back later | 12:43 |
| Pelo | <Pelo> I'M running ubuntu 10-04 on a intel core i5 650 with an integrated gpu (clarksdale) | 13:06 |
| Pelo | <Pelo> I can't use compiz and video playback is choppy when I move other windows around regardless of the quality of the video | 13:06 |
| Pelo | <Pelo> oddly enough, I have none of these problem if I run 10.04 as a live session ( from the cd ) | 13:06 |
| Pelo | <Pelo> compiz works fine , and video works great | 13:06 |
| Pelo | <Pelo> how can I install the driver from the live cd and use that instead of what I'm guessing is the intel driver | 13:06 |
| jcristau | Pelo: the live cd uses the same software. | 13:08 |
| Pelo | jcristau, then explain why I can use compiz and non choppy vid on the live cd but not once i've installed | 13:09 |
| jcristau | i forgot my crystal ball at home this morning, sorry | 13:10 |
| Pelo | you have to admit it's damn odd | 13:11 |
| Pelo | I'm gonna clean install again later and see what is up | 13:12 |
| tjaalton | did you happen to install nvidia/fglrx on it? | 13:12 |
| jcristau | hey timo | 13:12 |
| Pelo | tjaalton, not that I know of, this is a bran new computer | 13:12 |
| tjaalton | hi jcristau, long time no see | 13:12 |
| Pelo | I had to over write a i386 install in order to install amd64 | 13:13 |
| tjaalton | Pelo: /var/log/Xorg.0.log would confirm, or 'glxinfo |grep vendor' | 13:14 |
| Pelo | server glx vendor string: SGI | 13:14 |
| Pelo | client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI | 13:14 |
| Pelo | OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc | 13:14 |
| tjaalton | ok, so it's probably using vesa | 13:14 |
| tjaalton | the logfile then | 13:14 |
| tjaalton | use pastebin | 13:15 |
| Pelo | looking in synaptic I havd fglrx-modaliases installed and xserver-xorg-video-radeon | 13:15 |
| tjaalton | those are harmless | 13:16 |
| Pelo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/431642/ | 13:16 |
| Pelo | I also made a copy of the xorg.0.log file from the live cd session if you are interested | 13:17 |
| Pelo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/431645/ | 13:18 |
| tjaalton | eh | 13:18 |
| tjaalton | X.Org X Server 1.8.0.902 (1.8.1 RC 2) | 13:19 |
| Pelo | yes ? | 13:19 |
| tjaalton | where did you get that from? | 13:19 |
| tjaalton | oh, xorg-edgers of course | 13:19 |
| Pelo | got the 2.6.34 .... rc7 kernel and the xorg-edger stuff | 13:19 |
| Pelo | trying to fix the issue | 13:20 |
| jcristau | lolz | 13:20 |
| tjaalton | well it's hard to debug | 13:20 |
| tjaalton | since it's not what you installed from the cd | 13:20 |
| jcristau | "i installed random packages from random stuff, and now stuff doesn't work" | 13:20 |
| jcristau | s/stuff/places/ | 13:20 |
| Pelo | jcristau, didn't work to start with, if it had I would have had no reason to install the random stuff | 13:21 |
| Pelo | like I said earlier, I'll clean install and compare | 13:21 |
| Pelo | I'll be back when I have a clean install to compare to , thanks | 13:23 |
| tseliot | Sarvatt: did you have a look at mandriva's psb packages? | 15:24 |
| tseliot | they renamed libdrm | 15:24 |
| tjaalton | and now they are for sale.. coincidence? :) | 15:26 |
| tseliot | hehehe | 15:27 |
| tseliot | the poulsbo curse | 15:27 |
| Dr_Jakob | That is actually a bit scary you know. | 15:27 |
| Sarvatt | tseliot: yeah - https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/psb/+packages | 16:12 |
| tseliot | Sarvatt: ah, so there are no diversions, right? | 16:14 |
| Sarvatt | yup installs alongside libdrm fine | 16:14 |
| tseliot | Sarvatt: what's left to do? | 16:14 |
| Sarvatt | xpsb-glx | 16:14 |
| Sarvatt | why did you have it build mesa? | 16:14 |
| tseliot | ah, those blobs | 16:15 |
| tseliot | I did what? | 16:15 |
| Sarvatt | yeah, it's building libGL for some reason I can't understand | 16:16 |
| Sarvatt | in the changelog you had it start building mesa in the latest update back in jaunty | 16:16 |
| tseliot | in the log of xpsb-glx? | 16:17 |
| Sarvatt | yeah | 16:17 |
| tseliot | weird, is this from my PPA? | 16:17 |
| Sarvatt | it works fine with the system mesa from what I can see when I messed with someone elses system, I dont know why its building its own mesa and not sure if I should just drop it because converting it over to alternatives is a lot more work | 16:18 |
| tseliot | * debian/rules: - Build libGl.so* | 16:18 |
| tseliot | hmm... | 16:18 |
| tseliot | I guess my brain removed that part of my life from memory | 16:19 |
| excalibas | Hello, I have a very strange problem, I have an evil VIA k8m890ce/k8n890ce (onboard) card that have lots of problems (mouse pointer is a square of pixels and openoffice menu dont show). Now I plugged an Nvidia card but still use the onboard vga plug and the picture looks nice | 16:19 |
| Sarvatt | http://paste.ubuntu.com/431722/ | 16:19 |
| excalibas | Can someone explain why this happens please and how can I do this widouth the nvidia card (I have 2 more computers like this and only one nvidia...) | 16:20 |
| tseliot | excalibas: it's hard to tell without your /var/log/Xorg.0.log . Maybe you're using nouveau | 16:21 |
| tseliot | Sarvatt: I'm getting the code to see what I did | 16:22 |
| tseliot | Sarvatt: ok, I guess the answer is I don't know why I did it but it's definitely wrong. That package should just install the blobs | 16:25 |
| tseliot | also adding support for alternatives would be very easy to do | 16:25 |
| excalibas | tseliot, http://pastebin.com/cBLNV7cF my /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 16:30 |
| tseliot | excalibas: you're still using chrome | 16:31 |
| excalibas | tseliot, Is there a way to make this settings withouth the nvidia card? | 16:31 |
| excalibas | tseliot, I just pulgged the nvidia on the pci-e didnt install drivers | 16:32 |
| tseliot | do you have a log without the nvidia card? (also dmesg would be useful) | 16:32 |
| excalibas | tseliot, I will give you this in a minute, dmesg is the output of dmesg right? | 16:35 |
| tseliot | yep | 16:35 |
| excalibas | http://silva.pastebin.com/GdJLuxH2 | 16:40 |
| Sarvatt | ack they uploaded 2.6.34 to maverick now | 16:40 |
| Sarvatt | we need to update libdrm/nouveau ASAP since everyone using nouveau is broken now then... | 16:40 |
| excalibas | dmesg http://silva.pastebin.com/w1BCmz0F | 16:41 |
| Sarvatt | plus the blob doesn't work with 2.6.34 without patches so people on nvidia cards are really screwed :) | 16:42 |
| excalibas | tseliot, this is without nvidia | 16:43 |
| tseliot | ok | 16:46 |
| tseliot | oh 2.6.34 | 16:46 |
| tseliot | Sarvatt: alternatives should be used in libdrm-poulsbo though, as they do in mandriva: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/431735/ | 16:48 |
| Sarvatt | tseliot: I went the fedora route with libdrm-poulsbo because I do not see how relevant making alternatives for xserver's loaders in libdrm are | 16:50 |
| Sarvatt | they aren't making alternatives for libdrm, just xserver's files.. | 16:50 |
| excalibas | I have tried Ubuntu 9.04 9.10 10.04 xubuntu, puredyne, fedora, mandriva and always have the same problem with the graphics (or worse) | 16:51 |
| excalibas | tseliot, any idea what I can do? | 16:51 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt, hi, i am currently building 2.6.34-1.6 for lucid in my ppa. i will copy it to edgers when it's ready | 16:52 |
| Sarvatt | ricotz: no need, i'm copying it straight from maverick.. | 16:52 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt, ok | 16:53 |
| tseliot | excalibas: I don't see any errors in the logs. Maybe the vga arbiter is doing something right when 2 cards are available but I'm just guessing here. I don't know the chrome driver | 16:54 |
| Sarvatt | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+copy-packages?field.name_filter=linux&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=maverick -- can copy packages straight on launchpad | 16:55 |
| tseliot | Sarvatt: right, their update-alternatives can create links even if the files don't exist yet | 16:56 |
| Sarvatt | tseliot: why do you need to create the links though? | 16:56 |
| excalibas | what if I put the nvidia card, genetate a xorg.conf and then remove the card, could it help? | 16:57 |
| Sarvatt | we already install the libs to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/standard/ | 16:57 |
| Sarvatt | err no we dont, we used to | 16:58 |
| Sarvatt | it uses the standard libdri/libglx though i dont see why it needs to do that | 16:58 |
| excalibas | we have 3 computers with this evil card. I try to convert ppl to Linux but then the mouse is a big square and I say "Oh its just a bug next updade will be cool" I say this for more than one year now and ppl still use winblows slow as hell but works... | 17:00 |
| tseliot | Sarvatt: I guess it doesn't need that then. An empty alternative file would be fine (as in the case of mesa) | 17:00 |
| tseliot | excalibas: I don't think a xorg.conf would help. I can understand your frustration but upstream (i.e. whoever maintains the openchrome driver) should deal with this bug | 17:02 |
| tseliot | Sarvatt: or no alternative file at all would be fine too ;) | 17:04 |
| tseliot | actually better, as mesa already provides one | 17:05 |
| Sarvatt | ricotz: ok launchpad is still oopsing trying to copy packages so go ahead and copy yours :) | 17:05 |
| Sarvatt | i'm going to have to rebuild the world in edgers manually at this rate to get maverick set up :( | 17:06 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt, i will try when the build is ready | 17:06 |
| ricotz | i will copy it with the binaries, hopefully it didnt oops then | 17:07 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt, what right do one need to copy packages from the main repos to a ppa? | 17:08 |
| Sarvatt | none | 17:08 |
| excalibas | Very sorry, you don't have to deal with my frustrations and I know you try to help. | 17:08 |
| Sarvatt | just rights to upload to that PPA, | 17:08 |
| Sarvatt | excalibas: reporting the problem here would be your best bet since its not ubuntu specific and its a really weird problem that people more familiar with the hardware would know how to fix better - http://openchrome.org/ | 17:09 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt, yeah, but i dont see a option to copy a package from like here "https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/linux/2.6.34-1.6" to a ppa of mine | 17:10 |
| Sarvatt | oh you have to do it through the link i did up there, it doesn't show up on the packages page | 17:10 |
| bigjools | hi folks | 17:10 |
| bigjools | package copying is rather broken | 17:10 |
| bigjools | we're putting a fix out tomorrow | 17:11 |
| Sarvatt | \o/ thanks for the heads up bigjools! | 17:11 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt, ah ok, i overread that | 17:11 |
| ricotz | bigjools, i just tried to copy a small package and it worked | 17:12 |
| bigjools | Sarvatt: the guy who's fixing it was out sick for a while today but is back on it again now | 17:12 |
| bigjools | ricotz: there are some situations where it won't, it's pot luck | 17:12 |
| ricotz | bigjools, i have been there, i was surprised that it work | 17:13 |
| excalibas | Sarvatt, The thing is the problem is so strange I don't really know what to write on the bug report, but I will try | 17:14 |
| bigjools | the bug is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/575426 | 17:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 575426 in soyuz "SHA1-based copy checking breaks when there are expired sources in the target" [Critical,In progress] | 17:15 |
| lucazade | Bernardo: psb-kernel-headers and psb-kernel-modules should be no longer needed, am i wrong? because they are still present in bernardo-debs | 18:25 |
| Bernardo | hi | 18:25 |
| Bernardo | lucazade: yes, forgot to remove those | 18:25 |
| lucazade | hi | 18:25 |
| lucazade | ok ok | 18:25 |
| lucazade | haven't tried new debs yet | 18:25 |
| lucazade | we got lot of feedback on forum and wiki | 18:27 |
| lucazade | :) | 18:27 |
| Bernardo | I saw | 18:27 |
| Bernardo | :) | 18:27 |
| Bernardo | Sarvatt, tseliot: I cleaned somewhat the debs today | 18:27 |
| Bernardo | lucazade: did you try building them? | 18:28 |
| lucazade | no because i haven't got time | 18:28 |
| Bernardo | Sarvatt: I've tried a few times to download your git repo, but it times out | 18:29 |
| lucazade | i'll try tonight because i'm going out now | 18:29 |
| Bernardo | lucazade: it should build now. I found a stupid error I had made with quilt on xserver-xorg-video-psb | 18:29 |
| Bernardo | Anyway, I cleaned my lucid install, and did all from scratch | 18:29 |
| lucazade | perfect.. i'll rebuild everything just for the sake of | 18:30 |
| Bernardo | found a error in libdrm-poulsbo, and that one in xserver | 18:30 |
| Bernardo | also removed mesa from xpsb-glx, right now it only installs the binary blobs and removes existing redirections | 18:30 |
| lucazade | do you have composite disabled? | 18:30 |
| Bernardo | no | 18:30 |
| Bernardo | it works well on my 1101ha | 18:30 |
| lucazade | after a clean installation i had to enable it | 18:31 |
| lucazade | don't know what is different | 18:31 |
| lucazade | :| | 18:31 |
| lucazade | is the installation script right? right packages? | 18:31 |
| Bernardo | yours is a acer 751h? | 18:31 |
| lucazade | yes | 18:32 |
| Bernardo | I didn't test the installation script - and I've just renamed almost all packages.... | 18:32 |
| lucazade | but at the beginning it was working with composite | 18:32 |
| lucazade | i saw | 18:32 |
| lucazade | great | 18:32 |
| Bernardo | I added the suffix 1004um* to those that didn't have it | 18:33 |
| lucazade | is getting my crazy | 18:33 |
| Bernardo | lol | 18:33 |
| Bernardo | sorry about that... | 18:33 |
| lucazade | heheh lol | 18:33 |
| lucazade | i can live with | 18:33 |
| Bernardo | I also added the blacklist entries to poulsbo.conf, are you sure we don't need to blacklist i915? | 18:33 |
| lucazade | i removed it.. it works | 18:33 |
| lucazade | don't know why | 18:34 |
| Bernardo | well, it seems now the problem is with vga16fb | 18:34 |
| lucazade | really? | 18:34 |
| lucazade | ah ok | 18:34 |
| lucazade | don't you want to blacklist? | 18:35 |
| Bernardo | I blacklisted that one also | 18:35 |
| Bernardo | :) | 18:35 |
| lucazade | about opengl? | 18:35 |
| lucazade | *sabdfl help us* | 18:36 |
| Bernardo | opengl? first we'll need to fix 3d + video... :( | 18:40 |
| jcristau | why would you need to blacklist i915? | 18:40 |
| Bernardo | It used to conflict with the psb module, afaik | 18:42 |
| lucazade | was needed for karmic | 18:42 |
| jcristau | it won't be loaded on psb anyhow | 18:42 |
| Bernardo | no | 18:43 |
| Bernardo | I'll take it out of our blacklist | 18:43 |
| Bernardo | now the only conflict seems to be with vga16fb | 18:43 |
| Bernardo | if I don't blacklist it, when loading the psb module in fb mode the screen gets badly corrupted | 18:44 |
| lucazade | Bernardo an ubuntu user send me a modified script: http://gist.github.com/397582 | 18:45 |
| lucazade | it seems nice.. | 18:45 |
| Bernardo | yes | 18:46 |
| lucazade | everyone want to contribute.. cool | 18:46 |
| Bernardo | but the edition of poulsbo.conf, xorg.conf, and calling initramfs is redundant, we do that in poulsbo-config | 18:46 |
| lucazade | yes i know | 18:46 |
| lucazade | the script was useful just to get in some new tester | 18:47 |
| Bernardo | Also, the battery status isn't needed for the 1101 or for kde - at least here I get battery information without problems | 18:47 |
| lucazade | ;) | 18:47 |
| Bernardo | but we should recruit that guy to clean up our scripts... :) | 18:47 |
| lucazade | heheh | 18:48 |
| lucazade | of course | 18:48 |
| lucazade | i've to go.. i'll pm if i build the packages | 18:48 |
| Bernardo | ok | 18:48 |
| lucazade | bye | 18:48 |
| Bernardo | give that guy access to the repo and ask him to start with poulsbo-config, if you have time | 18:48 |
| Bernardo | bye | 18:48 |
| lucazade | nice idea..i'll ask him | 18:49 |
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| bryceh | tormod, would you mind adding Chase Douglas to xorg-edgers? | 22:30 |
| tormod | will do | 22:30 |
| bryceh | tormod, thanks | 22:31 |
| bryceh | tormod, also while you're at it, mind creating a wayland ppa? I'm working on updating my packages and probably would be best having them more generally accessible | 22:31 |
| bryceh | btw, did you see now you can delete ppas finally? :-) | 22:31 |
| tormod | wayland, cool | 22:38 |
| tormod | I am trying to get myself to BRU tomorrow evening | 22:38 |
| bryceh | sweet | 22:39 |
| bryceh | the wayland session is tomorrow morning at 10 | 22:39 |
| bryceh | thursday will be several good X sessions | 22:40 |
| tormod | https://edge.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/wayland | 23:08 |
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| bryceh | tormod, thanks | 23:51 |
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