| apachelogger | well then | 00:08 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | one hooters visit, 3hours of snooker and half an our of darts and apachelogger is quite the useless bit of foo | 00:09 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 00:09 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: could have been better TBH :/ | 00:09 |
| apachelogger | hopefully enough rightness in it *shrug* | 00:10 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: it means neversfelde cant spell really :P | 00:10 |
| Mamarok | what sort of math? | 00:10 |
| apachelogger | since he wanted us to endorse his application for moto :P | 00:10 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: discrete | 00:10 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: numbers theory and that stuff | 00:10 |
| Mamarok | oh, graphs and stuff, I liked that one :) | 00:11 |
| apachelogger | no graphs just now, they are supposed to be appearing towards the end of the semester | 00:12 |
| Mamarok | only? we actually started with that :) | 00:12 |
| apachelogger | for now we really just messed with congruence and groups and how to rsa | 00:12 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: scary ^^ | 00:12 |
| * apachelogger must remember to not listen to friends when they say that we wont stay out til midnight -.- | 00:15 | |
| apachelogger | gotta do thinking aloud tests in 8 hours -.- | 00:16 |
| ScottK | Depending on ones perspective staying out past midnight is not staying out until midnight. | 00:17 |
| al | that's exactly what i would have said | 00:17 |
| apachelogger | that is why I mustnt listen in the first place :P | 00:17 |
| txwikinger | nixternal ryanakca do we have the new kubuntu graphics somewhere? | 02:01 |
| txwikinger | thanks found it | 03:04 |
| jontheechidna | http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopvi1469-jpg.jpg | 08:18 |
| jontheechidna | oops, wrong chan | 08:18 |
| Tm_T | yay, ffmpegthumbnailer is now in kdemultimedia (kde 4.5) | 08:55 |
| txwikinger | apachelogger: in the amarok plugin for UDS the room with numbers do not work | 09:01 |
| Riddell | rdieter: does fedora use apport? | 09:40 |
| jontheechidna | Can anybody go to the Universe translations session for the next session? (I'll go if it's necessary) | 10:15 |
| * Riddell doing printer tools | 10:16 | |
| jontheechidna | yeah, that's what I want to do too... | 10:17 |
| jontheechidna | But I suppose getting universe translations stopped is more important | 10:17 |
| jontheechidna | for me anyways | 10:18 |
| apachelogger | ehm | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: that is because someone keeps changing urls | 11:11 |
| txwikinger | ah | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: could you please find out who is responsible for icecast.ubuntu.com and tell him to make up his mind about naming, or I shall be furious | 11:12 |
| txwikinger | They shall be very afraid now :) | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | and when I am furious... next thing you know is that I am writing a html parser | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | and from there it is only one step to programming C# | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | and from there it is only so far to become master of the microsoft development platform | 11:13 |
| txwikinger | another mono fanboy | 11:13 |
| CIA-6 | [amarok-uds] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100512101511-m2vkdwux8qn23uyc * (main.js streams.txt) apparently we are using - as delimiter now - hooray for service providers breaking their service addresses \o/ | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: 10.10.2 uploaded to kde-apps | 11:17 |
| txwikinger | hehe | 11:17 |
| * apachelogger has a major headache from yesterday -.- | 11:17 | |
| apachelogger | and that thinking aloud testing is rather exhausting | 11:17 |
| shtylman | the kde api is down... anyone remember off the top of their head how to trigger a notification ? | 11:28 |
| shtylman | what is the class? KStatusNotifierItem? | 11:28 |
| Riddell | KStatusNotifierItem is the systray class | 11:28 |
| Riddell | visual notification is probably done with knotify | 11:28 |
| shtylman | hmm | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: there is a qch file available somehwere | 11:30 |
| shtylman | just the knotify class? | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | I think it is enlistedin the topic of kde-devel | 11:30 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: My goal is to make sure if they do Universe packages it at least can't do harm. | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: KNotification is the class I think | 11:30 |
| ScottK | packages/translations | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: from my experience ... launchpad translations do cause harm | 11:30 |
| shtylman | apachelogger: k... lemme look at that | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | ...the translations... | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: importing the stuff into qt assitant also has the advantage of actually being able to do real search ;) | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | now that broken thingy of api.kde.org | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | s/now/not | 11:31 |
| shtylman | apachelogger: indeed | 11:31 |
| shtylman | I need to do that... at some point :) | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: why not now, takes like a minute ;) | 11:33 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I agree, but if they leave the upstream translations in place, then it can't get worse | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | that said | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: is ade at uds? | 11:33 |
| ScottK | If he's who I think he is (I"m not good with names) he's in the room | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | you might want to ask him if englishbreakfast network could build qt assistant .qch files for the api as well | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: http://conference2006.kde.org/conference/photos/adriaan_de_groot.jpg | 11:34 |
| ScottK | Thanks. Not who I was thinking of. | 11:35 |
| Riddell | ade isn't here | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | oh ok | 11:35 |
| shtylman | when making an notification do I need to create the config as well? or can I just use the class without extra files? | 11:41 |
| Riddell | you need the .notifyrc file | 11:41 |
| Riddell | e.g. /usr/share/kde4/apps/notificationhelper/notificationhelper.notifyrc | 11:42 |
| Riddell | you also need to kill and restart knotify4 before any changes take affect | 11:42 |
| shtylman | this is complex :) | 11:42 |
| Riddell | mmm | 11:43 |
| ScottK | shtylman: To pop a notification you can install libnotify-bin and then notify-send foo. | 11:49 |
| shtylman | ScottK: right... but I am patching yakuake to use better notofications on startup | 11:49 |
| shtylman | right now it uses the old kde static notification class | 11:49 |
| ScottK | OK. | 11:49 |
| shtylman | and I wanna use the right stff | 11:49 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: KNotification | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: KNotification::event() actually | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | static shot-and-forget, or what it is called ^^ | 11:55 |
| shtylman | oooo | 11:56 |
| shtylman | and I don't need the notifyrc file with that? | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | you do | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | otherwise knotify will just ignore the notification | 11:56 |
| shtylman | heh | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | dont know why though | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | seems odd if you ask me, since everything in the notifyrc can be defined via that function too IIRC | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: also, for testing... you need to restart knotify4 or at least run kbuildsycoca4 to get it to pick up the notifyrc | 11:57 |
| shtylman | k | 11:57 |
| apachelogger | took me a while to figure that out ^^ | 11:57 |
| shtylman | I tried doing that... still something not playing nice | 11:57 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: you could take a look at kubuntu-notification-helper | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | it got loads of that stuff ;) | 11:58 |
| shtylman | indeed I should | 11:58 |
| shtylman | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/432172/ | 11:58 |
| shtylman | seem mostly right? | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: icon name should be lower level ;) | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | but looks about right | 11:59 |
| shtylman | kk | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | needs to go to /usr/share/kde4/apps/yakuake as yakuake.notifyrc I think | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | then restart knotify4 | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | and that should work | 11:59 |
| shtylman | k | 12:00 |
| shtylman | maybe I didn't install in right place | 12:00 |
| shtylman | install( FILES yakuake.notifyrc DESTINATION ${DATA_INSTALL_DIR}/yakuake) | 12:00 |
| shtylman | I had that line in the cmake | 12:00 |
| shtylman | cause the header suggested it | 12:00 |
| apachelogger | should be the right dir | 12:01 |
| shtylman | sadness | 12:02 |
| shtylman | guess it just doesn't like me | 12:02 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: maybe relogin | 12:02 |
| shtylman | maybe | 12:03 |
| shtylman | I will try that | 12:03 |
| === rbelem_ is now known as rbelem | ||
| * shtylman is still failing at notifications... | 12:48 | |
| shtylman | weeps in sorrow | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: there there | 12:58 |
| shtylman | ;( | 12:59 |
| shtylman_ | victory!!! | 13:03 |
| shtylman_ | yakuake notifcation doesn't suck :) | 13:05 |
| * txwikinger is sooo tired | 13:08 | |
| shtylman | apachelogger: we should update yakuake :) | 13:22 |
| shtylman | we have an old version | 13:22 |
| shtylman | svn is more up to date | 13:22 |
| shtylman | but I don't think they have done an official "release" in a while | 13:22 |
| apachelogger | better talk to sho then | 13:23 |
| shtylman | sho? | 13:23 |
| shtylman | is he the maintainer for us? | 13:23 |
| apachelogger | he is upstream | 13:23 |
| shtylman | ah | 13:23 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: Sho_, not online it seems though | 13:24 |
| shtylman | k | 13:26 |
| shtylman | for now imma package into my ppa :) | 13:26 |
| rdieter | Riddell: no (fedora doesn't use apport) | 13:29 |
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| Riddell | rdieter: what about Jockey? | 13:59 |
| rdieter | Riddell: I don't think so (not familiar with that one) | 14:00 |
| Riddell | rdieter: non free driver installer, I know people from red hat have looked at it but it doesn't seem very Fedoraish | 14:04 |
| rdieter | :) I think you're right. | 14:04 |
| shtylman | Riddell: do we have more sessions today? | 14:08 |
| Riddell | shtylman: netbook setup is next | 14:08 |
| shtylman | ahh indeed | 14:09 |
| shtylman | im in the dx keyboard meeting right now | 14:09 |
| shtylman | to see if there are any interesting takeaways | 14:09 |
| shtylman | Riddell: also to note that for the installer, the keyboard setup may now rely on the system's keyboard setup | 14:12 |
| shtylman | ie a panel item | 14:12 |
| shtylman | so I am playing around with what kde offers to do that.. | 14:12 |
| nixternal | good mornin' kubuntuers! | 14:56 |
| jjesse_ | good morning nixternal | 14:57 |
| jjesse_ | any werd on your job ? | 14:57 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| nixternal | not yet | 14:57 |
| Riddell | nixternal: anything we need to look into regarding docs or feedback survey or the like at UDS? | 14:59 |
| nixternal | don't think so...i want to fix the size issue and maybe change up some stuff on the survey for maverick | 15:02 |
| nixternal | nothing to waste time on at UDS for though | 15:02 |
| nixternal | we will let the community tracks do all that :D | 15:02 |
| nixternal | I will be listening in on the plasma netbook stuff fyi | 15:02 |
| txwikinger | Why do I get bindwood errors in my firefox :( | 15:41 |
| Riddell | rbelem: please subscribe to https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-maverick-file-sharing scheduled for friday | 15:54 |
| rbelem | cool | 15:55 |
| rbelem | subscribed now :-) | 15:55 |
| txwikinger | can I disable those popups from the taskbar? | 16:08 |
| jontheechidna | Everybody in palissandre was really impressed by the KDE global menu bling :D | 16:29 |
| jontheechidna | Got even more clapping than seeing qtconfig getting a global menu in GNOME | 16:29 |
| nixternal | is that the os x like menu crap? | 16:32 |
| Riddell | jontheechidna: when was that? | 16:39 |
| jussi | Riddell: about 15 mins ago | 16:39 |
| jussi | nixternal: yes :P :P | 16:40 |
| jussi | Riddell: its being video'd, so you can all watch later | 16:40 |
| txwikinger | Do we have something equivalent to gnomekeyring | 16:43 |
| rbelem | txwikinger, kwallet? | 16:48 |
| txwikinger | that is what I thought | 16:48 |
| txwikinger | is there a python interface to it? | 16:49 |
| rbelem | txwikinger, i think this is the package python-keyring-kwallet | 16:49 |
| txwikinger | ah | 16:50 |
| rbelem | :-) | 16:52 |
| txwikinger | Do we have the Secret Service API implemented in KDE? | 16:57 |
| jontheechidna | Riddell: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/uds-m-ubuntu-netbook-edition-global.html | 16:57 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: what is that? | 17:07 |
| txwikinger | it is the common api that uses kwallet in KDE or gnomekeyring in Gnome | 17:07 |
| * txwikinger tries to figure out the problem with lernid on KDE | 17:08 | |
| Riddell | jontheechidna: ha ha "you're so much better than ted" | 17:09 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Riddell | roar, gobby is down | 17:43 |
| txwikinger | hmm.. lernid works now | 17:53 |
| txwikinger | somehow it seems the install did not start the necessary stuff | 17:54 |
| txwikinger | it needs a logout and login, or maybe even a login into Gnome | 17:54 |
| amichair | is plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo the package that replaces ubuntu purple splash screen with kubuntu's? | 18:20 |
| amichair | the karmic->lucid upgrade didn't go as smooth as I'd hoped | 18:21 |
| Riddell | yes that's the one | 18:31 |
| amichair | Riddell: 10x | 18:33 |
| amichair | should I report the upgrade related bugs in their respective packages or is there a central location for them? | 18:37 |
| Riddell | you could report on update-manager | 18:38 |
| amichair | I shall | 18:38 |
| Riddell | new spec! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuMaverickKDEPackaging | 18:47 |
| maco | Riddell: nice rationale | 19:13 |
| maco | heh and assumptions | 19:13 |
| maco | python-kde will now be responsible for Phonon bindings instead of python-qt. <--uhhhh | 19:14 |
| maco | someone in a kde channel was saying phonon-kde should jsut go away as it adds nothing over phonon-qt | 19:14 |
| maco | when i mentioned that pykdeuic4 assumes you want phonon-qt not phonon-kde | 19:15 |
| maco | also, as someone writing a python program that uses phonon *whimper* -- if pykdeuic4 is patched to make it uses phonon-kde (given what the spec says) that makes my imports on my program wrong. im guessing this is the part where you yell at me that i should have a proper build system instead of just a README | 19:17 |
| ghostcube | guys be warned lol | 19:45 |
| ghostcube | http://www.protocolsnow.com/2010/04/17/how-i-went-from-apple-store-newbie-to-lifetime-ban-in-one-week/ | 19:45 |
| === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube | ||
| * apachelogger drops in with a major headache | 20:44 | |
| apachelogger | I just attended the probably worst presentation I have ever seen in my entire life | 20:45 |
| apachelogger | and I doubt anything can ever be worse than that | 20:45 |
| jjesse | hopefully it wasn't the one i just finished presenting | 20:45 |
| * apachelogger is afraid of the nightmares just now | 20:45 | |
| apachelogger | jjesse: no, about android development | 20:45 |
| apachelogger | or rather, non-development | 20:45 |
| apachelogger | that dude was like "uhm, I am android developer!!!!" and then he was like "uhm, ahm, ehm, ... lets ask google" | 20:45 |
| apachelogger | he actually was able to produce 3 lines of code in 2 hours himself | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | then snippet copy one function | 20:46 |
| jjesse | nice | 20:46 |
| jjesse | hopefully you didn't pay for it | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | and in that function he managed to have 3 bugs | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | and best of all | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | he accessed a completely different protoype | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | jjesse: fortunately not | 20:47 |
| agateau | Riddell: ping | 20:50 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: pling | 20:52 |
| JontheEchidna | agateau informed me that he just pinged you ;) | 20:52 |
| Mamarok | how can I remove the obsolete grub entries? All old kernels are still displayed, even if removed and purged... | 20:55 |
| shtylman | JontheEchidna: http://imagebin.ca/view/DRyEht.html | 21:18 |
| JontheEchidna | shtylman: thx | 21:18 |
| shtylman | JontheEchidna: shtylman.com/stuff/kickoff.svg | 21:24 |
| * amichair hugs all the great kubuntu guys and gals | 22:04 | |
| * JontheEchidna huggles back | 22:08 | |
| * apachelogger is wondering why ubuntuone-login needs 3, make that 4 classes to process anything | 22:09 | |
| * apachelogger huggles everyone too | 22:10 | |
| nixternal | apachelogger: ubuntufour? | 22:14 |
| apachelogger | ubuntume | 22:15 |
| Riddell | maco: the phonon bindings stuff isn't final that's just my understanding of how it ought to work, the practice may be different | 22:16 |
| * txwikinger want lernid go through his quassel server | 22:29 | |
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