[00:08] well then [00:09] one hooters visit, 3hours of snooker and half an our of darts and apachelogger is quite the useless bit of foo [00:09] -.- [00:09] Mamarok: could have been better TBH :/ [00:10] hopefully enough rightness in it *shrug* [00:10] ScottK: it means neversfelde cant spell really :P [00:10] what sort of math? [00:10] since he wanted us to endorse his application for moto :P [00:10] Mamarok: discrete [00:10] Mamarok: numbers theory and that stuff [00:11] oh, graphs and stuff, I liked that one :) [00:12] no graphs just now, they are supposed to be appearing towards the end of the semester [00:12] only? we actually started with that :) [00:12] for now we really just messed with congruence and groups and how to rsa [00:12] Mamarok: scary ^^ [00:15] * apachelogger must remember to not listen to friends when they say that we wont stay out til midnight -.- [00:16] gotta do thinking aloud tests in 8 hours -.- [00:17] Depending on ones perspective staying out past midnight is not staying out until midnight. [00:17] that's exactly what i would have said [00:17] that is why I mustnt listen in the first place :P [02:01] nixternal ryanakca do we have the new kubuntu graphics somewhere? [03:04] thanks found it [08:18] http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopvi1469-jpg.jpg [08:18] oops, wrong chan [08:55] yay, ffmpegthumbnailer is now in kdemultimedia (kde 4.5) [09:01] apachelogger: in the amarok plugin for UDS the room with numbers do not work [09:40] rdieter: does fedora use apport? [10:15] Can anybody go to the Universe translations session for the next session? (I'll go if it's necessary) [10:16] * Riddell doing printer tools [10:17] yeah, that's what I want to do too... [10:17] But I suppose getting universe translations stopped is more important [10:18] for me anyways [11:11] ehm [11:11] txwikinger: that is because someone keeps changing urls [11:12] ah [11:12] Riddell: could you please find out who is responsible for icecast.ubuntu.com and tell him to make up his mind about naming, or I shall be furious [11:12] They shall be very afraid now :) [11:12] and when I am furious... next thing you know is that I am writing a html parser [11:12] and from there it is only one step to programming C# [11:13] and from there it is only so far to become master of the microsoft development platform [11:13] another mono fanboy [11:15] [amarok-uds] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100512101511-m2vkdwux8qn23uyc * (main.js streams.txt) apparently we are using - as delimiter now - hooray for service providers breaking their service addresses \o/ [11:17] txwikinger: 10.10.2 uploaded to kde-apps [11:17] hehe [11:17] * apachelogger has a major headache from yesterday -.- [11:17] and that thinking aloud testing is rather exhausting [11:28] the kde api is down... anyone remember off the top of their head how to trigger a notification ? [11:28] what is the class? KStatusNotifierItem? [11:28] KStatusNotifierItem is the systray class [11:28] visual notification is probably done with knotify [11:29] hmm [11:30] shtylman: there is a qch file available somehwere [11:30] just the knotify class? [11:30] I think it is enlistedin the topic of kde-devel [11:30] apachelogger: My goal is to make sure if they do Universe packages it at least can't do harm. [11:30] shtylman: KNotification is the class I think [11:30] packages/translations [11:30] ScottK: from my experience ... launchpad translations do cause harm [11:30] apachelogger: k... lemme look at that [11:30] ...the translations... [11:31] shtylman: importing the stuff into qt assitant also has the advantage of actually being able to do real search ;) [11:31] now that broken thingy of api.kde.org [11:31] s/now/not [11:31] apachelogger: indeed [11:31] I need to do that... at some point :) [11:33] shtylman: why not now, takes like a minute ;) [11:33] apachelogger: I agree, but if they leave the upstream translations in place, then it can't get worse [11:33] that said [11:33] ScottK: is ade at uds? [11:33] If he's who I think he is (I"m not good with names) he's in the room [11:33] you might want to ask him if englishbreakfast network could build qt assistant .qch files for the api as well [11:34] ScottK: http://conference2006.kde.org/conference/photos/adriaan_de_groot.jpg [11:35] Thanks. Not who I was thinking of. [11:35] ade isn't here [11:35] oh ok [11:41] when making an notification do I need to create the config as well? or can I just use the class without extra files? [11:41] you need the .notifyrc file [11:42] e.g. /usr/share/kde4/apps/notificationhelper/notificationhelper.notifyrc [11:42] you also need to kill and restart knotify4 before any changes take affect [11:42] this is complex :) [11:43] mmm [11:49] shtylman: To pop a notification you can install libnotify-bin and then notify-send foo. [11:49] ScottK: right... but I am patching yakuake to use better notofications on startup [11:49] right now it uses the old kde static notification class [11:49] OK. [11:49] and I wanna use the right stff [11:55] shtylman: KNotification [11:55] shtylman: KNotification::event() actually [11:55] static shot-and-forget, or what it is called ^^ [11:56] oooo [11:56] and I don't need the notifyrc file with that? [11:56] you do [11:56] otherwise knotify will just ignore the notification [11:56] heh [11:56] dont know why though [11:56] seems odd if you ask me, since everything in the notifyrc can be defined via that function too IIRC [11:57] shtylman: also, for testing... you need to restart knotify4 or at least run kbuildsycoca4 to get it to pick up the notifyrc [11:57] k [11:57] took me a while to figure that out ^^ [11:57] I tried doing that... still something not playing nice [11:58] shtylman: you could take a look at kubuntu-notification-helper [11:58] it got loads of that stuff ;) [11:58] indeed I should [11:58] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/432172/ [11:58] seem mostly right? [11:59] shtylman: icon name should be lower level ;) [11:59] but looks about right [11:59] kk [11:59] needs to go to /usr/share/kde4/apps/yakuake as yakuake.notifyrc I think [11:59] then restart knotify4 [11:59] and that should work [12:00] k [12:00] maybe I didn't install in right place [12:00] install( FILES yakuake.notifyrc DESTINATION ${DATA_INSTALL_DIR}/yakuake) [12:00] I had that line in the cmake [12:00] cause the header suggested it [12:01] should be the right dir [12:02] sadness [12:02] guess it just doesn't like me [12:02] shtylman: maybe relogin [12:03] maybe [12:03] I will try that === rbelem_ is now known as rbelem [12:48] * shtylman is still failing at notifications... [12:49] weeps in sorrow [12:58] shtylman: there there [12:59] ;( [13:03] victory!!! [13:05] yakuake notifcation doesn't suck :) [13:08] * txwikinger is sooo tired [13:22] apachelogger: we should update yakuake :) [13:22] we have an old version [13:22] svn is more up to date [13:22] but I don't think they have done an official "release" in a while [13:23] better talk to sho then [13:23] sho? [13:23] is he the maintainer for us? [13:23] he is upstream [13:23] ah [13:24] shtylman: Sho_, not online it seems though [13:26] k [13:26] for now imma package into my ppa :) [13:29] Riddell: no (fedora doesn't use apport) === toscalix_ is now known as toscalix [13:59] rdieter: what about Jockey? [14:00] Riddell: I don't think so (not familiar with that one) [14:04] rdieter: non free driver installer, I know people from red hat have looked at it but it doesn't seem very Fedoraish [14:04] :) I think you're right. [14:08] Riddell: do we have more sessions today? [14:08] shtylman: netbook setup is next [14:09] ahh indeed [14:09] im in the dx keyboard meeting right now [14:09] to see if there are any interesting takeaways [14:12] Riddell: also to note that for the installer, the keyboard setup may now rely on the system's keyboard setup [14:12] ie a panel item [14:12] so I am playing around with what kde offers to do that.. [14:56] good mornin' kubuntuers! [14:57] good morning nixternal [14:57] any werd on your job ? === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:57] not yet [14:59] nixternal: anything we need to look into regarding docs or feedback survey or the like at UDS? [15:02] don't think so...i want to fix the size issue and maybe change up some stuff on the survey for maverick [15:02] nothing to waste time on at UDS for though [15:02] we will let the community tracks do all that :D [15:02] I will be listening in on the plasma netbook stuff fyi [15:41] Why do I get bindwood errors in my firefox :( [15:54] rbelem: please subscribe to https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-maverick-file-sharing scheduled for friday [15:55] cool [15:55] subscribed now :-) [16:08] can I disable those popups from the taskbar? [16:29] Everybody in palissandre was really impressed by the KDE global menu bling :D [16:29] Got even more clapping than seeing qtconfig getting a global menu in GNOME [16:32] is that the os x like menu crap? [16:39] jontheechidna: when was that? [16:39] Riddell: about 15 mins ago [16:40] nixternal: yes :P :P [16:40] Riddell: its being video'd, so you can all watch later [16:43] Do we have something equivalent to gnomekeyring [16:48] txwikinger, kwallet? [16:48] that is what I thought [16:49] is there a python interface to it? [16:49] txwikinger, i think this is the package python-keyring-kwallet [16:50] ah [16:52] :-) [16:57] Do we have the Secret Service API implemented in KDE? [16:57] Riddell: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/uds-m-ubuntu-netbook-edition-global.html [17:07] txwikinger: what is that? [17:07] it is the common api that uses kwallet in KDE or gnomekeyring in Gnome [17:08] * txwikinger tries to figure out the problem with lernid on KDE [17:09] jontheechidna: ha ha "you're so much better than ted" === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:43] roar, gobby is down [17:53] hmm.. lernid works now [17:54] somehow it seems the install did not start the necessary stuff [17:54] it needs a logout and login, or maybe even a login into Gnome [18:20] is plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo the package that replaces ubuntu purple splash screen with kubuntu's? [18:21] the karmic->lucid upgrade didn't go as smooth as I'd hoped [18:31] yes that's the one [18:33] Riddell: 10x [18:37] should I report the upgrade related bugs in their respective packages or is there a central location for them? [18:38] you could report on update-manager [18:38] I shall [18:47] new spec! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuMaverickKDEPackaging [19:13] Riddell: nice rationale [19:13] heh and assumptions [19:14] python-kde will now be responsible for Phonon bindings instead of python-qt. <--uhhhh [19:14] someone in a kde channel was saying phonon-kde should jsut go away as it adds nothing over phonon-qt [19:15] when i mentioned that pykdeuic4 assumes you want phonon-qt not phonon-kde [19:17] also, as someone writing a python program that uses phonon *whimper* -- if pykdeuic4 is patched to make it uses phonon-kde (given what the spec says) that makes my imports on my program wrong. im guessing this is the part where you yell at me that i should have a proper build system instead of just a README [19:45] guys be warned lol [19:45] http://www.protocolsnow.com/2010/04/17/how-i-went-from-apple-store-newbie-to-lifetime-ban-in-one-week/ === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [20:44] * apachelogger drops in with a major headache [20:45] I just attended the probably worst presentation I have ever seen in my entire life [20:45] and I doubt anything can ever be worse than that [20:45] hopefully it wasn't the one i just finished presenting [20:45] * apachelogger is afraid of the nightmares just now [20:45] jjesse: no, about android development [20:45] or rather, non-development [20:45] that dude was like "uhm, I am android developer!!!!" and then he was like "uhm, ahm, ehm, ... lets ask google" [20:46] he actually was able to produce 3 lines of code in 2 hours himself [20:46] then snippet copy one function [20:46] nice [20:46] hopefully you didn't pay for it [20:46] and in that function he managed to have 3 bugs [20:46] and best of all [20:46] he accessed a completely different protoype [20:47] jjesse: fortunately not [20:50] Riddell: ping [20:52] Riddell: pling [20:52] agateau informed me that he just pinged you ;) [20:55] how can I remove the obsolete grub entries? All old kernels are still displayed, even if removed and purged... [21:18] JontheEchidna: http://imagebin.ca/view/DRyEht.html [21:18] shtylman: thx [21:24] JontheEchidna: shtylman.com/stuff/kickoff.svg [22:04] * amichair hugs all the great kubuntu guys and gals [22:08] * JontheEchidna huggles back [22:09] * apachelogger is wondering why ubuntuone-login needs 3, make that 4 classes to process anything [22:10] * apachelogger huggles everyone too [22:14] apachelogger: ubuntufour? [22:15] ubuntume [22:16] maco: the phonon bindings stuff isn't final that's just my understanding of how it ought to work, the practice may be different [22:29] * txwikinger want lernid go through his quassel server