[00:00] hey, now is the meeting? [00:00] so, instead of single-booting ubuntu i single-booted win-7 and i haven't gotten the message in over a month [00:00] malev: in #ubuntu-meeting, just a few more minutes [00:00] but every time i try to load ubuntu on my system it crashes everything [00:00] i can't get anything to work. i won't boot into any os [00:01] Dill: yes, ubuntu uses GRUB in order to allow you to select what OS to boot into [00:01] ddecator, i know that, but grub always stops working on my laptop for some reason [00:01] ddecator, it's the only computer that ive seen do this. [00:01] if you have a live CD, you can reinstall grub onto your harddrive, which may fix the issue, but i don't know if it will just be temporary or not [00:02] i made a live usb and tried that, but it just wiped both partitions (i'm not sure if i did it right though) [00:02] the big problem is, now with LL out, i want to try it, but i'm afraid of messing things up again [00:02] i'm just tired of starting over [00:03] what version were you using before? [00:03] for a few months there i was installing either OS (or both at the same time) a couple times a month trying to recover my data. thank god I had everything important saved on an external [00:03] KK [00:07] I did a search and didn't find anyone that was experiencing the same thing i was. i narrowed it down to ubuntu because it never happened when windows (regardless of version) was installed alone. ubuntu (alone and side by side with windows) always became corrupted and stopped working. i first thought it was a 32-bit/64-bit issue since it works great on my netbook, but the site says that the version works on both64 and 32 bit [00:07] systems [00:08] yes, i dual boot with 64-bit ubuntu just fine, and the reason you don't see it with windows alone is because windows doesn't use grub. what version of ubuntu were you trying to install? [00:09] 9.10 Karmic Koala (or whatever the name was) [00:09] sorry, i just thought kk was acceptable [00:09] oh, sorry, didn't now that's what you were referring to, haha [00:10] lol [00:10] yeah [00:10] 9.10 [00:10] on both systems. i used the same usb and all [00:10] well lucid and karmic but use grub2, but lucid might have a more recent version. if you want to try lucid, i encourage you to try it and if the grub issue comes back, then we can help you use a live CD to reinstall it and possibly figure out what the cause is [00:11] yeah [00:11] s/but/both [00:11] but the thing that annoys me is, if it fails, i have to start all over again for the n-teenth time in a couple of months [00:12] not necessarily. if grub is the only issue, then you can use the live CD to reinstall it on your harddrive so you can get access back to everything [00:12] the main problem is what is causing the issue in the first place... [00:12] yeah [00:12] i guess [00:13] i wish i knew what that was to begin with so i wouldn't have to worry about if my system is going to crash every time i shut it down [00:13] after you installed 9.10, did you run updates to make sure everything was up-to-date? [00:14] yeah [00:14] that was something else i thought was the problem [00:14] maybe the nvidia card or the centrino processor? [00:15] i have nvidia, so that shouldn't be an issue. i just checked and lucid does have a newer version of grub2 than karmic, so it may not have this issue any more (hard to say unless you try unfortunately) [00:15] yeah, i hear you [00:15] i guess i'll have to just take the leap [00:16] but it's getting a little depressing [00:16] i run ubuntu on my netbook all the time and i love it [00:16] i just hate putting my laptop through all the paces like that [00:16] if i doesn't work, then we'll do our best to help you figure out what is causing the issue =) [00:16] s/i/it [00:17] if grub is the only issue, then it shouldn't require a reinstall, just the use of a live CD [00:17] yeah [00:17] i hope so [00:17] i'm saving all my windows file on my external now and i've already made the usb [00:17] now, once the transfer is done i just have to load the os [00:18] hopefully it doesn't crash in the next two weeks [00:18] i hope so too =) [00:18] if not, we can try to fix it and at the very least make sure there is a bug report for it [00:19] thanks. I have about 15 mins and the transfer is done [00:20] stupid usb2 [00:20] heh [00:21] 15mins for what amount of data? [00:21] I'm seeing on the site that the 32-bit is the only downloadable version [00:22] is there a 64-bit lts? [00:22] 30 gb [00:22] ..and you are complaining? [00:22] yes, you have to select other options [00:22] 32-bit is just the default download [00:22] I havent read up tho [00:23] ddecator, how do i do that? [00:23] ddecator, nm i found it [00:23] =) [00:24] maybe that's what i did with kk [00:24] i have never seen that option before [00:29] 17 mins before i have the 64-bit version downloaded [00:38] Dill: it's about that before i remove 5 installations of *buntu from my computer. just doing some final backups :-) [00:41] phillw, say what? [00:43] i have had various test versions of 10.04 on my system, i need to clean them all down to two ('main' and lubuntu) to make room for 10.10 ones, oh and get rid of 9.10 :-) It's great fun, just nervous of nuking so much stuff ;-) [02:11] here I am again... [02:11] I've been playing with remastersys, like it a lot, but what does this exactly mean: [02:12] Please note that you must close all windows and >>>>unmount network shares<<<< while running the utility. [02:12] simply disconnecting while remastersys is doing it's job? [02:14] rightclick on the network icon, deselect 'enable networking' ? [02:28] Phrea: it means that if you have connected to any network shares (i.e. a disk shared from another computer) you need to unmount it. You do this the same way as you unmount usb drives [02:28] ok, I only need to do this if other computers are connected to the network :) [02:29] Phrea: hmmm, nobody replied to ya. I'm not expert on remastersys but that is a viable solution. The problem from my quick looking is that remastersys is going to backup I take it data. I gather it just backs everything currently mounted, that would unecessarily include network shares. As kermiac said unmount them. [02:29] darn my late night slow typing skillz!!! [02:29] I disconnected the whole computer while using remastersys [02:29] starcraftman: it's ok [02:30] Phrea: yes, I use remastersys at work to make SOE images. It's a great program :) [02:30] I disconnected [unmounted] the connection just to be sure [02:30] ok :) [02:30] kermiac: I LOVE it [02:30] amazing, but I do need to learn to work with it [02:30] Hello. does anyone know a good repository for openssh-server? [02:31] you can make complete new distro's if one wanted... [02:31] :o [02:31] brilliant [02:31] Phrea: you can keep the network connected, if you have connected to network shares they will show up on your desktop (unless you've changed the gconf key to hide volumes on the desktop) [02:31] oh ok :D [02:31] thanks for the tip [02:32] Phrea: checking /media and /mnt is foolproof regardless of what's on desktop. [02:32] unless ya custom mounted somewhere special >< [02:32] starcraftman: haha ok :D [02:32] I'm still a beginner :D [02:32] good idea starcraftman :) [02:32] so I disconnected my network connection and closed all windowed apps [02:32] Phrea: roger, then /media and /mnt would be only destinations by most programs. /mnt mostly older ones. [02:32] :D [02:33] dan: what exactly do you mean? openssh-server is in the default ubuntu repositories [02:33] just run 'mount' to see everything that is mounted [02:33] starcraftman: dude, thanks, but I need to read up again then :D [02:33] it'll be ok I think, bought some rw's to test it out [02:33] :) [02:34] pedro3005: simple and effective, thanks [02:34] :) [02:34] umm, but security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/multiverse seems to be dead for c 18 hours now... [02:34] Phrea, :D [02:34] pedro3005: that works too, too many options. You win again Linux! [02:34] it's a brilliant piece of software [02:34] * starcraftman shakes fist at tux for giving choices. [02:34] I decided to offer him some help [02:35] he doesnt seem to need some, but I still did offer :) [02:36] dan: tried swapping a different mirror? [02:38] could you suggest a different mirror? I googled it got me nowhere... [02:38] dan: in your System --> Administration --> Software Sources [02:39] dan: just select "Main Server" [02:41] ChanServ: it's now up to 1.4GB, just to let you know [02:41] sorry kermiac, I'm on a server, so no System/Administation etc [02:42] dan: you said karmic, right? [02:43] sorry, I meant Chesamo and NOT ChanServ 'course [02:44] yes karmic [02:44] dan: Just manually edit your sources.list file then. I use http://gpl.savoirfairelinux.net/pub/mirrors/ubuntu/ [02:45] good canadian mirror dan, decent speed. [02:45] one can edit that from synaptic too, cant one? [02:45] thanks starcraftman, you were faster than me :) [02:45] which is the preferred way to do it [02:45] kermiac: hurray, I'm not slowing down! [02:46] Phrea: he's on server though, no synaptic either I imagine. [02:46] ok, true [02:46] starcraftman: I'm trying to do too many things at once hehe [02:46] I'll go be silent again ;) [02:47] I still have a LONG way to go, don't I :) [02:47] which is ok [02:48] Phrea: we all start somewhere. [02:48] :) [02:48] starcraftman: true [02:48] but I started over a decade ago [02:48] ....but then I got scared and got away !! :D [02:48] gheh [02:49] dan: mirror working? [02:49] for me, I started Linux with Jaunty [02:49] ...and look at me now, I'm Windows free [02:49] litterally [02:49] amazing how far it has become [02:50] Phrea: I started round dapper, but wasn't on team. [02:50] well at that time. [02:50] I had a router running Slackware back in the day, but I did not install it [02:51] hmmm, think we lost dan. [02:51] tried a few other distro's etc, it was all ok [02:51] but I still needed windows [02:52] it took 12 years for me to convert completely [02:53] Phrea: admirable, I still use windows. Don't really feel a need to expunge it from my life, though it does feel awfully primitive working on it. [02:53] but, I did it ! :D [02:53] and here I am now [02:53] starcraftman: I have no need for it anymore [02:54] I've got several computers, and none of them run windows, OR dualboot OR windows in a VM [02:54] I got rid of it completely :D [02:55] Phrea: atm its primary use is C# learning and a hand ful of primitive websites that only work in ie from my uni. [02:55] ah :) [02:55] I wish I could program [02:55] sadly, I can't [02:56] I dont mind, other than that I cant hack the programs I use to my own liking [02:56] but that's about it [02:57] I can't even 'hello world' in C/C++/C# :D [02:57] I am THAT stupid :D [03:06] Phrea: that's awesome to hear about your converting :) [03:07] thanks [03:07] it's still a bit scary tho :D [03:07] I had to have XP installed so I could do work for a computer course at home, but the day I took my final exam I purged the last of MS from my HDD >:) [03:07] ..but it works [03:07] heck, my phone even runs a Debian-based distro ;) [03:07] and they are real computers too, not old ones [03:08] this is now all I have [03:08] Phrea: no time like the present to learn programming. Dev channel is good for that, plenty of free books on python, I can recommend others to take out of library if ya like. [03:08] starcraftman: true, but I cant :) [03:08] It's a good skill, I wish I'd started sooner. [03:08] I know [03:08] but I cant [03:08] Phrea: yep :) Once you figure out how to do everything you want to in Linux it becomes an "Ah ha!" moment :) [03:09] swoody: the thing is that I already ran mostly free software on windows [03:09] Phrea: never say can't, it ain't so bad. It is up to you though. Drop by dev channel or ask me if ya get interested :) [03:09] I was just scared a bit [03:09] Phrea: very cool :) That really does help the transition become much easier [03:09] starcraftman: I can't. [03:09] swoody: indeed :) [03:10] plus I've played with it for over a decade [03:10] and my secnodary default box already runs linux for a couple of years [03:10] still, it was kinda scary [03:11] but I did it :D [03:11] and it works [03:11] :) [03:11] I was mostly scared about my eyesight [kinda poor] [03:11] for me the process was pretty gradual. I dual-booted Vista and Ubuntu for some time, then I realized one day that I hadn't touched Windows in some months, so I just purged it :) [03:12] ah :) [03:12] I never dualbooted [03:12] not even back in the day [03:12] I never understuud the principle of dualbooting [03:12] one either uses one OS or the other [03:13] very true. That's what I learned out of that process too, haha [03:13] so I never dualbooted, cept to try it out and see what people are talking about [03:13] just used the one I enjoyed the most, felt most secure on, and did what I needed it to... happened to be Linux :) [03:13] that's also the reason why I tried out the Wubi install. :) [03:14] Just to see what it's like [03:14] oh, I've never touched Wubi :/ [03:14] it's boring :D [03:14] I never understood the appeal of that one bit [03:14] you havent missed a thing [03:14] lol, that's good to hear :) [03:14] it's very dumb if one would ask me [03:15] it's somewhere between a dualboot [real install] and a VM install [totally not real install] [03:16] yeah, that's the gist I got from it [03:16] not really practical in application either way :/ [03:16] at least not for what I'm looking for [03:18] oh well, I'm 100% clean of windows :D [03:20] grrr, I still have some kind of leak to mem ! [03:38] I'm on 1.5GB mem atm [03:38] it's getting out of hand again [03:42] http://i.imgur.com/Y7qQh.png [03:45] the steady network history is the webradio played via rythmbox you can see on the right [03:47] there's something really wrong with Lucid [03:50] I forget, where can I determine what deamons etc are to booted during a [re]boot and which not? [03:54] does any one know how to make online videos that use microsoft media server plugin work on karmic? [04:05] someone in here who can help with microsoft media server plugin === PabloRubianes_ is now known as PabloRubianes === ZachK_1 is now known as ZachK_ === ZachK_ is now known as Guest29609 [09:18] Where can I find the panel-indicator icon for Banshee that appears when it has been minimised to the panel? I need to fix it from doing this: http://yfrog.com/0ubansheequestionp [09:25] scouris, you have the notification area active on your panel? [09:26] I do [09:26] scouris, I dont use banshee but is there an option in pref. to enable the panel-indicator? [09:27] Oh, I have the indicator showing up, that's not my problem. In the picture that I linked, it shows the banshee icon overhanging the panel by as little as 1 pixel - not alot, but it's _very_ noticable [09:29] and thats your problem? [09:29] yes - I want to locate the icon file and remove the background - if possible [09:29] you could increase/decrease the general panelseize? [09:30] I have tried that, and the icon still overhangs by the same amount [09:30] hmm sounds like a bug to me scouris [09:31] I'll go to the banshee site and submit a bug report. Thanks anyway [09:32] ok [09:36] how to install windows games using ubuntu? [09:37] i am using wine but a certain error will pop up anyone can help [09:38] i have a problem with my upgrade to 10.04. can anyone help me? [09:39] ads_, via wine, crossover-games [09:39] ads_, : http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxgames/ [09:40] games supported: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxgames/ [09:40] ooff same link.. [09:41] crossover comes with a trial [09:41] bye A [09:42] hey guys i really need some help [09:42] What is the problem with the upgrade iakwvoss ? [09:42] i upgraded to 10.04 and my dell doesnt boot At all [09:43] Do you get any grub errors ? [09:43] no [09:43] nothing [09:43] i have black screen [09:43] can i recover with a cd? [09:45] Did the upgrade go fine? Did you encounter any errors during the process ? [09:45] hard case? :-) [09:45] not one [09:45] nope. [09:46] everything went fine [09:50] tough case silverfox? [09:51] when do you get the black screen of death? bootproces? after the login? [09:51] is there a cusror blinking? [09:54] i had black screen on the boot process [09:55] ddfvfdv [09:56] it starts to load the new logo, stops and gives me black screen [09:59] hi there again [09:59] +leoquant i have black screen on the boot process [10:01] is this a frequent problem? [10:02] guys please... [10:02] i m a begginer and i am desperate [10:35] hi there [10:46] Hi [10:46] I'm new in the Linux world and system administration [10:46] I've created a local server on the internal networks at home and I installed LAMP + Samba + Openssh on the server for the application of the study. [10:46] Ubuntu server version I used is 10.04 [10:46] The device used a bit old, but he works well [10:46] A connected devices on the network are: Sony PlayStation 3 and DreamBox and another computer in addition to the server and all networked to the modem type of Cisco EPC2425 by cables and I have a laptop connected by wireless. [10:46] We have come to the problem [10:46] The problem is that when I run the server the wireless disappears from the network and laptop disconnected (if it was) and when I Turn off the server the wireless comeback to appear and the connection is excellent. This is the problem [10:46] Of course, those who will ask, have I modified a file in the server interface to the work static ip . [10:46] Information network interface on the server of the type Netgear FA310TX [10:46] Thank you [11:58] hello [11:58] anybody there [11:59] yes [11:59] hi [11:59] I am here but not sure what to do about that said1976 [12:01] i could'nt find ant similar prop. in google [12:02] ??? [12:03] should i post my question again, or can ppl who come in new see the old post? [12:04] said1976, repost [12:06] Hi [12:06] I'm new in the Linux world and system administration [12:06] I've created a local server on the internal networks at home and I installed LAMP + Samba + Openssh on the server for the application of the study. [12:06] Ubuntu server version I used is 10.04 [12:06] The device used a bit old, but he works well [12:06] A connected devices on the network are: Sony PlayStation 3 and DreamBox and another computer in addition to the server and all networked to the modem type of Cisco EPC2425 by cables and I have a laptop connected by wireless. [12:06] We have come to the problem [12:06] The problem is that when I run the server the wireless disappears from the network and laptop disconnected (if it was) and when I Turn off the server the wireless comeback to appear and the connection is excellent. This is the problem [12:06] Of course, those who will ask, have I modified a file in the server interface to the work static ip . [12:06] Information network interface on the server of the type Netgear FA310TX [12:06] Thank you [12:11] not sure if this is the right place... need help with issue after upgrade from 8.04 thru all version to 9.10 [12:16] upgrade to 9.10 but my Wireless Network Icon has disappeared from the side panel next to the clock. Tried every google boogle search to figure out how to get it back but no good... any hoos I have to "power cycle" the adsl2+ wirless modem sometimes during heavy torrent traffic d/loads.... which then means the ubunut network is lost ... [12:16] I have to keep restarting the wlan0 with "sudo nm-connection-editor" all the time having to reenter wlan0 credentials .... [12:16] Right click >>> Add to Panel >> only have "Network Monitor" which only monitors [12:17] I want to be able see those swirling green dots again when my wlan0 reconnects and be able to see any wlan in range ... does anyone know about this issue? [12:18] in 10.04, the swirling green dots changed to rising network power animation [12:19] k [12:20] do you have that on ur desktop? [12:20] side panel [12:21] try adding notification area to the panel.... [12:22] na [12:22] is it in your add to panel list ? [12:22] yep [12:23] whats it called like addt to panel >> "........" [12:23] Notification Area [12:23] bugger [12:23] I got NA added but the net con icon is not there... [12:24] and if you add Indicator Applet? [12:27] I didn't know adding an Indicator Applet could crash your IRC client :P [12:34] meindian523: we got him sorted in #ubuntu-au :) [12:34] I didn't realise he was here too [12:35] kermiac, ah, what was the solution? [12:35] temporarily "nm-applet &" [12:35] Does this channel have a bot that can /msg people? [12:36] we're going through his sources.list now to try & find out what exactly is broken [12:41] Appl6, No, AFAIK, but you can use memoserv [12:42] /msg memoserv help [12:42] meindian523: I'll check it out, thanks. [12:42] Appl6, np [12:43] kermiac, ah, post the problem and the solution when you guys are done, yeah....would be useful for the logs === starcraft is now known as starcraftman === starcraft is now known as starcraftman [16:04] ey [16:05] hi white [16:05] are you advanced or something? [16:05] advanced in what white ? (: [16:05] i need help with installing drivers for usb modem on ubuntu [16:06] source; http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/firmware.shtml [16:06] Which modem? [16:06] well, in that i am not advanced, but i'm sure someone can help you out [16:06] conexant accessrunner adsl usb modem [16:06] white: what model modem? [16:06] ah. [16:06] AusLinx AL-2006p [16:07] it's supported as listed in that site [16:07] but i can't learn using ubuntu without having it connected to internet, so i need help with it haha [16:07] Can you not get a 801.11x wireless connection, or a wired one? [16:07] getting new modem/router is not an option.. sorry :( [16:08] How are you operating now? [16:08] what do you mean? i'm on xp atm [16:08] That's not what I said... 802.11x is the standard wireless networking protocol [16:08] lol [16:08] what i have is crappy usb-only modem [16:09] Hm. [16:09] http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/firmware.shtml can you understand what you need to do? >obtaining firmware [16:09] I found a rather old guide (6.06) [16:09] seen it. not that helpful [16:09] i have ubuntu 10.04 lts [16:10] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/AccessRunner [16:10] yeah i saw that [16:10] i really tried so hard, with my 0 skill with ubuntu [16:10] i just can't even get it [16:11] I can't exacly walk through it, since I don't have the necessary hardware [16:11] Hm... [16:11] exactly* [16:11] lol [16:11] :( [16:11] i don't know what can i do.. [16:11] anything beside buying new one [16:12] do you have msn? it might be easier over there [16:12] ADSL isn't my strong point, I'll admit [16:12] And no [16:12] lol [16:12] icq? anything else? [16:12] I have AIM, I guess [16:12] uh [16:12] i guess i'll do in here [16:13] >As of this writing, it's still in development and testing stage, so there haven't been any released versions, and it's available only via project's anonymous CVS in the module utils. You need to build it with make, and run giving it the name of the intput and output files as arguments. The resulting file should be named cxacru-fw.bin and installed in the appropriate location in order to be automatically loaded by the driv [16:13] i can't build it.. [16:13] are you familiar with make command? [16:13] Oh, it needs extra informaton [16:13] I am [16:13] http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/firmware.shtml there is links [16:14] Why can't you build the program? [16:15] i have 0 skill with ubuntu [16:15] i used windows all of my life [16:15] You just type "make" [16:15] ye, in what, to what, and what else [16:15] so chesamo [16:16] You have the source files? [16:16] what about i'll boot up ubuntu on other laptop and i'll ask you for walkthrough? [16:16] i have driver firmwarre files for my modem [16:16] Sure [16:16] I guess [16:16] that's all what i downloaded [16:17] I found your forum thread, by the way [16:18]