[00:00] <malev> hey, now is the meeting?
[00:00] <Dill> so, instead of single-booting ubuntu i single-booted win-7 and i haven't gotten the message in over a month
[00:00] <ddecator> malev: in #ubuntu-meeting, just a few more minutes
[00:00] <Dill> but every time i try to load ubuntu on my system it crashes everything
[00:00] <Dill> i can't get anything to work.  i won't boot into any os
[00:01] <ddecator> Dill: yes, ubuntu uses GRUB in order to allow you to select what OS to boot into
[00:01] <Dill> ddecator, i know that, but grub always stops working on my laptop for some reason
[00:01] <Dill> ddecator, it's the only computer that ive seen do this.
[00:01] <ddecator> if you have a live CD, you can reinstall grub onto your harddrive, which may fix the issue, but i don't know if it will just be temporary or not
[00:02] <Dill> i made a live usb and tried that, but it just wiped both partitions (i'm not sure if i did it right though)
[00:02] <Dill> the big problem is, now with LL out, i want to try it, but i'm afraid of messing things up again
[00:02] <Dill> i'm just tired of starting over
[00:03] <ddecator> what version were you using before?
[00:03] <Dill> for a few months there i was installing either OS (or both at the same time) a couple times a month trying to recover my data.  thank god I had everything important saved on an external
[00:03] <Dill> KK
[00:07] <Dill> I did a search and didn't find anyone that was experiencing the same thing i was.  i narrowed it down to ubuntu because it never happened when windows (regardless of version) was installed alone.  ubuntu (alone and side by side with windows) always became corrupted and stopped working.  i first thought it was a 32-bit/64-bit issue since it works great on my netbook, but the site says that the version works on both64 and 32 bit
[00:07] <Dill>  systems
[00:08] <ddecator> yes, i dual boot with 64-bit ubuntu just fine, and the reason you don't see it with windows alone is because windows doesn't use grub. what version of ubuntu were you trying to install?
[00:09] <Dill> 9.10 Karmic Koala (or whatever the name was)
[00:09] <Dill> sorry, i just thought kk was acceptable
[00:09] <ddecator> oh, sorry, didn't now that's what you were referring to, haha
[00:10] <Dill> lol
[00:10] <Dill> yeah
[00:10] <Dill> 9.10
[00:10] <Dill> on both systems.  i used the same usb and all
[00:10] <ddecator> well lucid and karmic but use grub2, but lucid might have a more recent version. if you want to try lucid, i encourage you to try it and if the grub issue comes back, then we can help you use a live CD to reinstall it and possibly figure out what the cause is
[00:11] <Dill> yeah
[00:11] <ddecator> s/but/both
[00:11] <Dill> but the thing that annoys me is, if it fails, i have to start all over again for the n-teenth time in a couple of months
[00:12] <ddecator> not necessarily. if grub is the only issue, then you can use the live CD to reinstall it on your harddrive so you can get access back to everything
[00:12] <ddecator> the main problem is what is causing the issue in the first place...
[00:12] <Dill> yeah
[00:12] <Dill> i guess
[00:13] <Dill> i wish i knew what that was to begin with so i wouldn't have to worry about if my system is going to crash every time i shut it down
[00:13] <ddecator> after you installed 9.10, did you run updates to make sure everything was up-to-date?
[00:14] <Dill> yeah
[00:14] <Dill> that was something else i thought was the problem
[00:14] <Dill> maybe the nvidia card or the centrino processor?
[00:15] <ddecator> i have nvidia, so that shouldn't be an issue. i just checked and lucid does have a newer version of grub2 than karmic, so it may not have this issue any more (hard to say unless you try unfortunately)
[00:15] <Dill> yeah, i hear you
[00:15] <Dill> i guess i'll have to just take the leap
[00:16] <Dill> but it's getting a little depressing
[00:16] <Dill> i run ubuntu on my netbook all the time and i love it
[00:16] <Dill> i just hate putting my laptop through all the paces like that
[00:16] <ddecator> if i doesn't work, then we'll do our best to help you figure out what is causing the issue =)
[00:16] <ddecator> s/i/it
[00:17] <ddecator> if grub is the only issue, then it shouldn't require a reinstall, just the use of a live CD
[00:17] <Dill> yeah
[00:17] <Dill> i hope so
[00:17] <Dill> i'm saving all my windows file on my external now and i've already made the usb
[00:17] <Dill> now, once the transfer is done i just have to load the os
[00:18] <Dill> hopefully it doesn't crash in the next two weeks
[00:18] <ddecator> i hope so too =)
[00:18] <ddecator> if not, we can try to fix it and at the very least make sure there is a bug report for it
[00:19] <Dill> thanks.  I have about 15 mins and the transfer is done
[00:20] <Dill> stupid usb2
[00:20] <ddecator> heh
[00:21] <Phrea> 15mins for what amount of data?
[00:21] <Dill> I'm seeing on the site that the 32-bit is the only downloadable version
[00:22] <Dill> is there a 64-bit lts?
[00:22] <Dill> 30 gb
[00:22] <Phrea> ..and you are complaining?
[00:22] <ddecator> yes, you have to select other options
[00:22] <ddecator> 32-bit is just the default download
[00:22] <Phrea> I havent read up tho
[00:23] <Dill> ddecator, how do i do that?
[00:23] <Dill> ddecator, nm i found it
[00:23] <ddecator> =)
[00:24] <Dill> maybe that's what i did with kk
[00:24] <Dill> i have never seen that option before
[00:29] <Dill> 17 mins before i have the 64-bit version downloaded
[00:38] <phillw> Dill: it's about that before i remove 5 installations of *buntu from my computer. just doing some final backups :-)
[00:41] <Dill> phillw, say what?
[00:43] <phillw> i have had various test versions of 10.04 on my system, i need to clean them all down to two ('main' and lubuntu) to make room for 10.10 ones, oh and get rid of 9.10 :-) It's great fun, just nervous of nuking so much stuff ;-)
[02:11] <Phrea> here I am again...
[02:11] <Phrea> I've been playing with remastersys, like it a lot, but what does this exactly mean:
[02:12] <Phrea> Please note that you must close all windows and >>>>unmount network shares<<<< while running the utility.
[02:12] <Phrea> simply disconnecting while remastersys is doing it's job?
[02:14] <Phrea> rightclick on the network icon, deselect 'enable networking' ?
[02:28] <kermiac> Phrea: it means that if you have connected to any network shares (i.e. a disk shared from another computer) you need to unmount it. You do this the same way as you unmount usb drives
[02:28] <Phrea> ok, I only need to do this if other computers are connected to the network :)
[02:29] <starcraftman> Phrea: hmmm, nobody replied to ya. I'm not expert on remastersys but that is a viable solution. The problem from my quick looking is that remastersys is going to backup I take it data. I gather it just backs everything currently mounted, that would unecessarily include network shares. As kermiac said unmount them.
[02:29] <starcraftman> darn my late night slow typing skillz!!!
[02:29] <Phrea> I disconnected the whole computer while using remastersys
[02:29] <Phrea> starcraftman: it's ok
[02:30] <kermiac> Phrea: yes, I use remastersys at work to make SOE images. It's a great program :)
[02:30] <Phrea> I disconnected [unmounted] the connection just to be sure
[02:30] <Phrea> ok :)
[02:30] <Phrea> kermiac: I LOVE it
[02:30] <Phrea> amazing, but I do need to learn to work with it
[02:30] <dan> Hello. does anyone know a good repository for openssh-server?
[02:31] <Phrea> you can make complete new distro's if one wanted...
[02:31] <Phrea> :o
[02:31] <Phrea> brilliant
[02:31] <kermiac> Phrea: you can keep the network connected, if you have connected to network shares they will show up on your desktop (unless you've changed the gconf key to hide volumes on the desktop)
[02:31] <Phrea> oh ok :D
[02:31] <Phrea> thanks for the tip
[02:32] <starcraftman> Phrea: checking /media and /mnt is foolproof regardless of what's on desktop.
[02:32] <starcraftman> unless ya custom mounted somewhere special ><
[02:32] <Phrea> starcraftman: haha ok :D
[02:32] <Phrea> I'm still a beginner :D
[02:32] <kermiac> good idea starcraftman :)
[02:32] <Phrea> so I disconnected my network connection and closed all windowed apps
[02:32] <starcraftman> Phrea: roger, then /media and /mnt would be only destinations by most programs. /mnt mostly older ones.
[02:32] <Phrea> :D
[02:33] <kermiac> dan: what exactly do you mean? openssh-server is in the default ubuntu repositories
[02:33] <pedro3005> just run 'mount' to see everything that is mounted
[02:33] <Phrea> starcraftman: dude, thanks, but I need to read up again then :D
[02:33] <Phrea> it'll be ok I think, bought some rw's to test it out
[02:33] <Phrea> :)
[02:34] <Phrea> pedro3005: simple and effective, thanks
[02:34] <Phrea> :)
[02:34] <dan> umm, but security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/multiverse seems to be dead for c 18 hours now...
[02:34] <pedro3005> Phrea, :D
[02:34] <starcraftman> pedro3005: that works too, too many options. You win again Linux!
[02:34] <Phrea> it's a brilliant piece of software
[02:34]  * starcraftman shakes fist at tux for giving choices.
[02:34] <Phrea> I decided to offer him some help
[02:35] <Phrea> he doesnt seem to need some, but I still did offer :)
[02:36] <starcraftman> dan: tried swapping a different mirror?
[02:38] <dan> could you suggest a different mirror? I googled it got me nowhere...
[02:38] <kermiac> dan: in your System --> Administration --> Software Sources
[02:39] <kermiac> dan: just select "Main Server"
[02:41] <Phrea> ChanServ: it's now up to 1.4GB, just to let you know
[02:41] <dan> sorry kermiac, I'm on a server, so no System/Administation  etc
[02:42] <kermiac> dan: you said karmic, right?
[02:43] <Phrea> sorry, I meant Chesamo and NOT ChanServ 'course
[02:44] <dan> yes karmic
[02:44] <starcraftman> dan: Just manually edit your sources.list file then. I use http://gpl.savoirfairelinux.net/pub/mirrors/ubuntu/
[02:45] <starcraftman> good canadian mirror dan, decent speed.
[02:45] <Phrea> one can edit that from synaptic too, cant one?
[02:45] <kermiac> thanks starcraftman, you were faster than me :)
[02:45] <Phrea> which is the preferred way to do it
[02:45] <starcraftman> kermiac: hurray, I'm not slowing down!
[02:46] <starcraftman> Phrea: he's on server though, no synaptic either I imagine.
[02:46] <Phrea> ok, true
[02:46] <kermiac> starcraftman: I'm trying to do too many things at once hehe
[02:46] <Phrea> I'll go be silent again ;)
[02:47] <Phrea> I still have a LONG way to go, don't I :)
[02:47] <Phrea> which is ok
[02:48] <starcraftman> Phrea: we all start somewhere.
[02:48] <starcraftman> :)
[02:48] <Phrea> starcraftman: true
[02:48] <Phrea> but I started over a decade ago
[02:48] <Phrea> ....but then I got scared and got away !! :D
[02:48] <Phrea> gheh
[02:49] <starcraftman> dan: mirror working?
[02:49] <Phrea> for me, I started Linux with Jaunty
[02:49] <Phrea> ...and look at me now, I'm Windows free
[02:49] <Phrea> litterally
[02:49] <Phrea> amazing how far it has become
[02:50] <starcraftman> Phrea: I started round dapper, but wasn't on team.
[02:50] <starcraftman> well at that time.
[02:50] <Phrea> I had a router running Slackware back in the day, but I did not install it
[02:51] <starcraftman> hmmm, think we lost dan.
[02:51] <Phrea> tried a few other distro's etc, it was all ok
[02:51] <Phrea> but I still needed windows
[02:52] <Phrea> it took 12 years for me to convert completely
[02:53] <starcraftman> Phrea: admirable, I still use windows. Don't really feel a need to expunge it from my life, though it does feel awfully primitive working on it.
[02:53] <Phrea> but, I did it ! :D
[02:53] <Phrea> and here I am now
[02:53] <Phrea> starcraftman: I have no need for it anymore
[02:54] <Phrea> I've got several computers, and none of them run windows, OR dualboot OR windows in a VM
[02:54] <Phrea> I got rid of it completely :D
[02:55] <starcraftman> Phrea: atm its primary use is C# learning and a hand ful of primitive websites that only work in ie from my uni.
[02:55] <Phrea> ah :)
[02:55] <Phrea> I wish I could program
[02:55] <Phrea> sadly, I can't
[02:56] <Phrea> I dont mind, other than that I cant hack the programs I use to my own liking
[02:56] <Phrea> but that's about it
[02:57] <Phrea> I can't even 'hello world' in C/C++/C# :D
[02:57] <Phrea> I am THAT stupid :D
[03:06] <swoody> Phrea: that's awesome to hear about your converting :)
[03:07] <Phrea> thanks
[03:07] <Phrea> it's still a bit scary tho :D
[03:07] <swoody> I had to have XP installed so I could do work for a computer course at home, but the day I took my final exam I purged the last of MS from my HDD >:)
[03:07] <Phrea> ..but it works
[03:07] <swoody> heck, my phone even runs a Debian-based distro ;)
[03:07] <Phrea> and they are real computers too, not old ones
[03:08] <Phrea> this is now all I have
[03:08] <starcraftman> Phrea: no time like the present to learn programming. Dev channel is good for that, plenty of free books on python, I can recommend others to take out of library if ya like.
[03:08] <Phrea> starcraftman: true, but I cant :)
[03:08] <starcraftman> It's a good skill, I wish I'd started sooner.
[03:08] <Phrea> I know
[03:08] <Phrea> but I cant
[03:08] <swoody> Phrea: yep :) Once you figure out how to do everything you want to in Linux it becomes an "Ah ha!" moment :)
[03:09] <Phrea> swoody: the thing is that I already ran mostly free software on windows
[03:09] <starcraftman> Phrea: never say can't, it ain't so bad. It is up to you though. Drop by dev channel or ask me if ya get interested :)
[03:09] <Phrea> I was just scared a bit
[03:09] <swoody> Phrea: very cool :) That really does help the transition become much easier
[03:09] <Phrea> starcraftman: I can't.
[03:09] <Phrea> swoody: indeed :)
[03:10] <Phrea> plus I've played with it for over a decade
[03:10] <Phrea> and my secnodary default box already runs linux for a couple of years
[03:10] <Phrea> still, it was kinda scary
[03:11] <Phrea> but I did it :D
[03:11] <Phrea> and it works
[03:11] <swoody> :)
[03:11] <Phrea> I was mostly scared about my eyesight [kinda poor]
[03:11] <swoody> for me the process was pretty gradual. I dual-booted Vista and Ubuntu for some time, then I realized one day that I hadn't touched Windows in some months, so I just purged it :)
[03:12] <Phrea> ah :)
[03:12] <Phrea> I never dualbooted
[03:12] <Phrea> not even back in the day
[03:12] <Phrea> I never understuud the principle of dualbooting
[03:12] <Phrea> one either uses one OS or the other
[03:13] <swoody> very true. That's what I learned out of that process too, haha
[03:13] <Phrea> so I never dualbooted, cept to try it out and see what people are talking about
[03:13] <swoody> just used the one I enjoyed the most, felt most secure on, and did what I needed it to... happened to be Linux :)
[03:13] <Phrea> that's also the reason why I tried out the Wubi install. :)
[03:14] <Phrea> Just to see what it's like
[03:14] <swoody> oh, I've never touched Wubi :/
[03:14] <Phrea> it's boring :D
[03:14] <swoody> I never understood the appeal of that one bit
[03:14] <Phrea> you havent missed a thing
[03:14] <swoody> lol, that's good to hear :)
[03:14] <Phrea> it's very dumb if one would ask me
[03:15] <Phrea> it's somewhere between a dualboot [real install] and a VM install [totally not real install]
[03:16] <swoody> yeah, that's the gist I got from it
[03:16] <swoody> not really practical in application either way :/
[03:16] <swoody> at least not for what I'm looking for
[03:18] <Phrea> oh well, I'm 100% clean of windows :D
[03:20] <Phrea> grrr, I still have some kind of leak to mem !
[03:38] <Phrea> I'm on 1.5GB mem atm
[03:38] <Phrea> it's getting out of hand again
[03:42] <Phrea> http://i.imgur.com/Y7qQh.png
[03:45] <Phrea> the steady network history is the webradio played via rythmbox you can see on the right
[03:47] <Phrea> there's something really wrong with Lucid
[03:50] <Phrea> I forget, where can I determine what deamons etc are to booted during a [re]boot and which not?
[03:54] <nishanth> does any one know how to make online videos that use microsoft media server plugin work on karmic?
[04:05] <nishanth> someone in here who can help with microsoft media server plugin
[09:18] <scouris> Where can I find the panel-indicator icon for Banshee that appears when it has been minimised to the panel?  I need to fix it from doing this: http://yfrog.com/0ubansheequestionp
[09:25] <leoquant> scouris, you have the notification area active on your panel?
[09:26] <scouris> I do
[09:26] <leoquant> scouris,  I dont use banshee but is there an option in pref. to enable the panel-indicator?
[09:27] <scouris> Oh, I have the indicator showing up, that's not my problem. In the picture that I linked, it shows the banshee icon overhanging the panel by as little as 1 pixel - not alot, but it's _very_ noticable
[09:29] <leoquant> and thats your problem?
[09:29] <scouris> yes - I want to locate the icon file and remove the background - if possible
[09:29] <leoquant> you could increase/decrease the general panelseize?
[09:30] <scouris> I have tried that, and the icon still overhangs by the same amount
[09:30] <leoquant> hmm sounds like a bug to me scouris
[09:31] <scouris> I'll go to the banshee site and submit a bug report. Thanks anyway
[09:32] <leoquant> ok
[09:36] <ads_> how to install windows games using ubuntu?
[09:37] <ads_> i am using wine but a certain error will pop up anyone can help
[09:38] <iakwvoss> i have a problem with my upgrade to 10.04. can anyone help me?
[09:39] <leoquant> ads_, via wine, crossover-games
[09:39] <leoquant> ads_, : http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxgames/
[09:40] <leoquant> games supported: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxgames/
[09:40] <leoquant> ooff same link..
[09:41] <leoquant> crossover comes with a trial
[09:41] <leoquant> bye A
[09:42] <iakwvoss> hey guys i really need some help
[09:42] <Silver_Fox_> What is the problem with the upgrade iakwvoss  ?
[09:42] <iakwvoss> i upgraded to 10.04 and my dell doesnt boot At all
[09:43] <Silver_Fox_> Do you get any grub errors ?
[09:43] <iakwvoss> no
[09:43] <iakwvoss> nothing
[09:43] <iakwvoss> i have black screen
[09:43] <iakwvoss> can i recover with a cd?
[09:45] <Silver_Fox_> Did the upgrade go fine?  Did you encounter any errors during the process ?
[09:45] <iakwvoss> hard case? :-)
[09:45] <iakwvoss> not one
[09:45] <iakwvoss> nope.
[09:46] <iakwvoss> everything went fine
[09:50] <iakwvoss> tough case silverfox?
[09:51] <leoquant> when do you get the black screen of death? bootproces? after the login?
[09:51] <leoquant> is there a cusror blinking?
[09:54] <iakwvoss_> i had black screen on the boot process
[09:55] <iakwvoss_> ddfvfdv
[09:56] <iakwvoss_> it starts to load the new logo, stops and gives me black screen
[09:59] <iakwvoss> hi there again
[09:59] <iakwvoss> +leoquant i have black screen on the boot process
[10:01] <iakwvoss> is this a frequent problem?
[10:02] <iakwvoss> guys please...
[10:02] <iakwvoss> i m a begginer and i am desperate
[10:35] <said1976> hi there
[10:46] <said1976>    	 	 	 	 	 	   Hi
[10:46] <said1976> I'm new in the Linux world  and system administration
[10:46] <said1976> I've created a local server on the internal networks at home and I installed LAMP + Samba + Openssh on the server for the application of the study.
[10:46] <said1976> Ubuntu server version I used is 10.04
[10:46] <said1976> The device used a bit old, but he works well
[10:46] <said1976> A connected devices on the network are: Sony PlayStation 3 and DreamBox and another computer in addition to the  server and all networked to the modem type of Cisco EPC2425 by cables and I have a laptop connected by wireless.
[10:46] <said1976> We have come to the problem
[10:46] <said1976> The problem is that when I run the server the wireless disappears from the network and laptop disconnected (if it was) and when I Turn off the server the wireless comeback to appear and the connection is excellent. This is the problem
[10:46] <said1976> Of course, those who will ask, have I modified a file in the server interface to the work static ip .
[10:46] <said1976> Information network interface on the server of the type Netgear FA310TX
[10:46] <said1976> Thank you
[11:58] <said1976> hello
[11:58] <said1976> anybody there
[11:59] <captainK> yes
[11:59] <captainK> hi
[11:59] <Silver_Fox_> I am here but not sure what to do about that said1976
[12:01] <said1976> i could'nt find ant similar prop. in google
[12:02] <meindian523> ???
[12:03] <said1976> should i post my question again, or can ppl who come in new see the old post?
[12:04] <meindian523> said1976, repost
[12:06] <said1976>    	 	 	 	 	 	   Hi
[12:06] <said1976> I'm new in the Linux world  and system administration
[12:06] <said1976> I've created a local server on the internal networks at home and I installed LAMP + Samba + Openssh on the server for the application of the study.
[12:06] <said1976> Ubuntu server version I used is 10.04
[12:06] <said1976> The device used a bit old, but he works well
[12:06] <said1976> A connected devices on the network are: Sony PlayStation 3 and DreamBox and another computer in addition to the  server and all networked to the modem type of Cisco EPC2425 by cables and I have a laptop connected by wireless.
[12:06] <said1976> We have come to the problem
[12:06] <said1976> The problem is that when I run the server the wireless disappears from the network and laptop disconnected (if it was) and when I Turn off the server the wireless comeback to appear and the connection is excellent. This is the problem
[12:06] <said1976> Of course, those who will ask, have I modified a file in the server interface to the work static ip .
[12:06] <said1976> Information network interface on the server of the type Netgear FA310TX
[12:06] <said1976> Thank you
[12:11] <captainK> not sure if this is the right place... need help with issue after upgrade from 8.04 thru all version to 9.10
[12:16] <captainK> upgrade to 9.10 but my Wireless Network Icon has disappeared from the side panel next to the clock.  Tried every google boogle search to figure out how to get it back but no good...  any hoos I have to "power cycle" the adsl2+ wirless modem sometimes during heavy torrent traffic d/loads.... which then means the ubunut network is lost ...
[12:16] <captainK> I have to keep restarting the wlan0 with "sudo nm-connection-editor"  all the time having to reenter wlan0 credentials ....
[12:16] <captainK> Right click >>> Add to Panel >>  only have "Network Monitor" which only monitors
[12:17] <captainK> I want to be able see those swirling green dots again when my wlan0 reconnects and be able to see any wlan in range ... does anyone know about this issue?
[12:18] <meindian523> in 10.04, the swirling green dots changed to rising network power animation
[12:19] <captainK> k
[12:20] <captainK> do you have that on ur desktop?
[12:20] <captainK> side panel
[12:21] <meindian523> try adding notification area to the panel....
[12:22] <captainK> na
[12:22] <captainK> is it in your add to panel list ?
[12:22] <meindian523> yep
[12:23] <captainK> whats it called  like addt to panel >> "........"
[12:23] <meindian523> Notification Area
[12:23] <captainK> bugger
[12:23] <captainK> I got NA added but the net con icon is not there...
[12:24] <meindian523> and if you add Indicator Applet?
[12:27] <meindian523> I didn't know adding an Indicator Applet could crash your IRC client :P
[12:34] <kermiac> meindian523: we got him sorted in #ubuntu-au :)
[12:34] <kermiac> I didn't realise he was here too
[12:35] <meindian523> kermiac, ah, what was the solution?
[12:35] <kermiac> temporarily "nm-applet &"
[12:35] <Appl6> Does this channel have a bot that can /msg people?
[12:36] <kermiac> we're going through his sources.list now to try & find out what exactly is broken
[12:41] <meindian523> Appl6, No, AFAIK, but you can use memoserv
[12:42] <meindian523>   /msg memoserv help
[12:42] <Appl6> meindian523: I'll check it out, thanks.
[12:42] <meindian523> Appl6, np
[12:43] <meindian523> kermiac, ah, post the problem and the solution when you guys are done, yeah....would be useful for the logs
[16:04] <white> ey
[16:05] <Akos> hi white
[16:05] <white> are you advanced or something?
[16:05] <Akos> advanced in what white ? (:
[16:05] <white> i need help with installing drivers for usb modem on ubuntu
[16:06] <white> source; http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/firmware.shtml
[16:06] <Chesamo> Which modem?
[16:06] <Akos> well, in that i am not advanced, but i'm sure someone can help you out
[16:06] <white> conexant accessrunner adsl usb modem
[16:06] <Chesamo> white: what model modem?
[16:06] <Chesamo> ah.
[16:06] <white> 	AusLinx AL-2006p
[16:07] <white> it's supported as listed in that site
[16:07] <white> but i can't learn using ubuntu without having it connected to internet, so i need help with it haha
[16:07] <Chesamo> Can you not get a 801.11x wireless connection, or a wired one?
[16:07] <white> getting new modem/router is not an option.. sorry :(
[16:08] <Chesamo> How are you operating now?
[16:08] <white> what do you mean? i'm on xp atm
[16:08] <Chesamo> That's not what I said... 802.11x is the standard wireless networking protocol
[16:08] <white> lol
[16:08] <white> what i have is crappy usb-only modem
[16:09] <Chesamo> Hm.
[16:09] <white> http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/firmware.shtml can you understand what you need to do? >obtaining firmware
[16:09] <Chesamo> I found a rather old guide (6.06)
[16:09] <white> seen it. not that helpful
[16:09] <white> i have ubuntu 10.04 lts
[16:10] <Chesamo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/AccessRunner
[16:10] <white> yeah i saw that
[16:10] <white> i really tried so hard, with my 0 skill with ubuntu
[16:10] <white> i just can't even get it
[16:11] <Chesamo> I can't exacly walk through it, since I don't have the necessary hardware
[16:11] <Chesamo> Hm...
[16:11] <Chesamo> exactly*
[16:11] <white> lol
[16:11] <white> :(
[16:11] <white> i don't know what can i do..
[16:11] <white> anything beside buying new one
[16:12] <white> do you have msn? it might be easier over there
[16:12] <Chesamo> ADSL isn't my strong point, I'll admit
[16:12] <Chesamo> And no
[16:12] <white> lol
[16:12] <white> icq? anything else?
[16:12] <Chesamo> I have AIM, I guess
[16:12] <white> uh
[16:12] <white> i guess i'll do in here
[16:13] <white> >As of this writing, it's still in development and testing stage, so there haven't been any released versions, and it's available only via project's anonymous CVS in the module utils. You need to build it with make, and run giving it the name of the intput and output files as arguments. The resulting file should be named cxacru-fw.bin and installed in the appropriate location in order to be automatically loaded by the driv
[16:13] <white> i can't build it..
[16:13] <white> are you familiar with make command?
[16:13] <Chesamo> Oh, it needs extra informaton
[16:13] <Chesamo> I am
[16:13] <white> http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/firmware.shtml there is links
[16:14] <Chesamo> Why can't you build the program?
[16:15] <white> i have 0 skill with ubuntu
[16:15] <white> i used windows all of my life
[16:15] <Chesamo> You just type "make"
[16:15] <white> ye, in what, to what, and what else
[16:15] <white> so chesamo
[16:16] <Chesamo> You have the source files?
[16:16] <white> what about i'll boot up ubuntu on other laptop and i'll ask you for walkthrough?
[16:16] <white> i have driver firmwarre files for my modem
[16:16] <Chesamo> Sure
[16:16] <Chesamo> I guess
[16:16] <white> that's all what i downloaded
[16:17] <Chesamo> I found your forum thread, by the way
[16:18] <white> lol
[16:18] <white> by username White girl ye?
[16:18] <Chesamo> Aye
[16:19] <white> ubuntu is on
[16:19] <white> boot up way faster than windows of course :P
[16:19] <Chesamo> Naturally
[16:19] <white> so
[16:19] <white> i already stick in usb that has adsl driver files
[16:20] <white> what next really?
[16:20] <white> it says something about cvs
[16:20] <white> to extract these files
[16:21] <Chesamo> reading the gguide....
[16:21] <white> :)<#
[16:21] <white> <3
[16:21] <Chesamo> CVS is a source code downloading system
[16:21] <white> mhm
[16:22] <Akos> multiple starcraft's? :O
[16:24] <white> i'm still here..
[16:24] <Chesamo> white: open up Terminal (Applications > Accessories > Terminal) and type the command:
[16:24] <white> drivers files is in usb flash drive btw
[16:24] <white> should i move it to directory on hdd?
[16:24] <white> i'm on terminal now
[16:25] <starcraft> Akos: I aim to confuse, mystify and generally disorient!
[16:25] <starcraft> Akos: Also, have an evil twin brother.
[16:25] <Chesamo> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@accessrunner.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/accessrunner login
[16:25] <Chesamo> exactly like that
[16:26] <white> the program 'cvs' can be found in the following packages:
[16:26] <white> * cvs
[16:26] <white> * cvsnt
[16:26] <Chesamo> sudo apt get install cvs
[16:26] <Chesamo> apt-get *
[16:26] <white> Try: sudo apt-get install <seleteced package>
[16:26] <white> k
[16:27] <white> reading package list... done. building dependency tree. reading state informaiton... done. E: couldn't find package cvs
[16:28] <white> remember only thing i have downloaded is modem driver and it's still in flash usb stick.
[16:28] <Spisters> Hello All
[16:28] <starcraftman> They really ought just enable the community repository by default.
[16:28] <Chesamo> Oh.
[16:28] <Chesamo> Right.
[16:28] <Chesamo> No Internet.
[16:28] <white> hello.
[16:28] <white> lol
[16:28] <white> ye
[16:28] <white> of course
[16:28] <Chesamo> You're kinda stuck then :/
[16:28] <white> ahh
[16:28] <white> any way around?
[16:28] <Chesamo> Downloading it on Windows, I suppose.
[16:28] <Spisters> Anyone on here using the netbook edition of Ubuntu?
[16:29] <Chesamo> I don't know anything about CVS on Windows though
[16:29] <white> i can do that
[16:29] <white> uh
[16:29] <Chesamo> I'm not, but I know of it
[16:29] <Chesamo> why?
[16:29] <Chesamo> @spisters
[16:29] <white> shit that suck..
[16:29]  * Chesamo twitches
[16:29] <Spisters> I would like to know if Ubuntu is planning on bringing back the desktop switcher and my ability to control the notification panal
[16:29] <Chesamo> Try... to watch your language
[16:29] <white> :S
[16:30] <Chesamo> The Desktop Switcher applet?
[16:30] <Spisters> yeah
[16:30] <Chesamo> It comes installed by default
[16:30] <Spisters> I can't seem to find it on the latest vs. and when I read about it online, it said it was removed due to stability issues
[16:30] <white> Uh
[16:30] <white> I dont have any connection
[16:30] <Chesamo> white: Post in the Ubuntu forum in the Absolute Beginners section and say that you found something but don't know how to use it
[16:30] <white> to connect between my laptop and other lapto
[16:30] <white> p
[16:31] <Chesamo> USB drive
[16:31] <white> lol. what i have is usb flash stick
[16:31] <Chesamo> Spisters: Let me go get my laptop and see
[16:31] <Spisters> thank you
[16:31] <white> like this: http://www.tvc-tech.com/uploads/details/UFD-301-1.jpg
[16:31] <white> alright
[16:32] <Chesamo> Spisters: You're on 10.04, right?
[16:32] <Spisters> yes
[16:33] <white> chesamo, well 4 wifi is found but all of them is locked
[16:34] <white> cracking them is only option?
[16:34] <Chesamo> I do not condone that course of action.
[16:34] <white> lol
[16:34] <Spisters> white, when you installed Ubuntu was the thumb drive in the computer?
[16:34] <white> thumb drive? what do you mean
[16:35] <white> i dual-booted it on other laptop
[16:35] <Spisters> sorry, USB Flash Stick
[16:35] <white> i'm on separate laptop with just windows xp
[16:35] <white> and no. it's on hdd
[16:35] <white> not flash stick
[16:35] <Chesamo> Spisters: Right-click on the panel and hit "Add to Panel" Select the Workspace Switcher applet.
[16:35] <Chesamo> I have it... I'll see what package it's in
[16:35] <white> i downloaded the image to HDD, and use the program to dual-boot and install it.
[16:36] <Spisters> I don't have the ability to add or remove on my panels.
[16:36] <Chesamo> Why?
[16:36] <white> although other laptop has windows xp OS too and it can be connected to internet.
[16:36] <Chesamo> I mean, I right-click on a panel and "Add to Panel..." is the first menu option
[16:37] <Spisters> yeah, mine is grayed out.
[16:37] <Chesamo> How odd.
[16:38] <white> Chesamo, other laptop is dual-boot with Ubuntu and Windows XP (which can be connected to internet via USB modem)
[16:38] <white> would it ever help?
[16:38] <Spisters> That's what I was thinking, you have the standard desktop edition on your labtop right?
[16:38] <Chesamo> Well, a minimal version. But yes.
[16:38] <Chesamo> whte: I don't think so
[16:38] <white> lol
[16:38] <Spisters> I think they stripped a lot from the last netbook edition
[16:39] <Chesamo> Spisters: It looks like the UNR pakage disables it....
[16:39] <Chesamo> The only solution I found was "Open Synaptic, remove the UNR metapackage and install the ubuntu-desktop
[16:39] <Chesamo> "
[16:40] <Chesamo> I don't like that solution
[16:40] <Spisters> I shouldn't be very surprised, a lot of that stuff was fairly buggy. The new Vs. Sticks with a lot of the solid cores from the first edition, but I was thinking they would continue to try and develop some of the other cool features.
[16:40] <Spisters> I found an alternative that has me going into the registries and changing a few command lines, but I don't like that solution very much either, ha
[16:41] <Chesamo> Ubuntu doesn't have a registry
[16:41] <Spisters> o what am I thinking of... The text documents that control how Ubuntu acts...
[16:41] <white> Chesamo do you think I have to keep trying?
[16:42] <Chesamo> Config files, spisters
[16:42] <Chesamo> white: Trying what?
[16:42] <white> trying to get usb modem connected to ubuntu
[16:42] <white> tried for few days.. looks hopeless.
[16:42] <Spisters> yep, that's what I was thinking of, thanks
[16:42] <Chesamo> Well you don't have much choice, do you
[16:42] <white> Yeah... ugh
[16:42] <white> What if it's like impossible for me
[16:42] <Chesamo> Actully
[16:42] <Chesamo> Actually*
[16:42] <Spisters> White, was the USB modem connected when you installed?
[16:43] <Chesamo> Does your Windows XP laptop have a wireless card installed on it?
[16:43] <white> I downloaded it when I'm on windows xp
[16:43] <white> yes both of my laptops have wireless
[16:43] <Chesamo> an 802.11x wireless card, I mean
[16:43] <Chesamo> Well!
[16:43] <white> not too sure about version
[16:43] <white> because i never use wifi
[16:43] <Chesamo> Try network sharing
[16:43] <white> looks interesting. how can i do that?
[16:43] <Chesamo> Windows XP can share its Internet connection
[16:43] <Chesamo> Let me snag a guide....
[16:44] <Spisters> white, you may have one other option, was the USB Modem plugged in when you installed?
[16:44] <white> yes
[16:44] <white> wait
[16:44] <Chesamo> White: http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/
[16:44] <Spisters> nm, go with what Chesamo says :P
[16:44] <white> will windows xp to ubuntu work?
[16:44] <Chesamo> Doesn't matter what OS it is.
[16:45] <white> ah
[16:45] <Chesamo> It broadcasts as a standard wireless network
[16:45] <Spisters> doesn't it just make the machine into a little router?
[16:45] <Chesamo> Yep
[16:45] <Spisters> we are not talking 56k are we?
[16:45] <Chesamo> Nope, standard wireless.
[16:45] <white> >Decide whether to allow client computers to control the server's Internet connection using the Internet Gateway. This feature is automatically available on clients running Windows XP
[16:45] <Spisters> no I mean what is he pulling into the Windows machine.
[16:45] <Chesamo> ~50 Mbps, if you're on G
[16:46] <Chesamo> It's an ADSL USB modem
[16:46] <Chesamo> satellite internet
[16:46] <white> i'm a she btw :P
[16:46] <Spisters> sorry white, auto assumption, now I'm a butt.
[16:46] <white> lol
[16:46] <white> it's ok, "he" is default on the internet
[16:47] <Spisters> well, you could give it a shot, but if you like how it works, go pick yourself up a wireless router and make your life simple :P
[16:48] <Chesamo> Unfortunately not an option for her
[16:48] <Spisters> really?
[16:48]  * Chesamo nods
[16:48] <Chesamo> She gets her Internet through the ADSL modem.
[16:48] <white> Yeah i've been slapping dad for years to get wireless router and he still telling me that router isn't for me, it's for office, etc etc
[16:48] <white> plus it's expensive and he doesnt want to get through with troubles to get established sucessfully
[16:49] <Chesamo> Expensive?
[16:49] <white> Costs $170 here
[16:49] <Chesamo> You can pick up a wireless router for like 30 bucks
[16:49] <white> which breaks in 3 days. it's russia
[16:49] <Chesamo> Oh.
[16:49] <Spisters> o
[16:49] <Chesamo> That'll uh... That'll do it.
[16:49] <white> and who know if $170 will break too
[16:49] <Spisters> Yeah so, about Sharing your connection...
[16:49] <white> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/networksetupwiz.htm i'm on right page yeah?
[16:50] <Chesamo> I assume so
[16:50] <Chesamo> I've never actually used that guide
[16:50] <Chesamo> Or done ICS outside silly little experimentation
[16:51] <Spisters> alright, I'm out guys and gals, I will wait patiently for the experts at Ubuntu to tell me I can go back to messing with my netbook configuration.
[16:51] <Chesamo> Good luck
[16:51] <Spisters> lol thanks
[16:51] <Chesamo> Sorry there's no real solution.
[16:52] <Spisters> not your fault, and patients is a solution, the netbook runs fine, vanity is always simply a bonus.
[16:52] <Spisters> later
[16:53] <white> Ugh
[16:53] <white> Chesamo
[16:53] <white> I've turned on both wireless. And wizard said that wifi is disconnected
[16:53] <white> so you're saying that i have to connect to one wifi network for it to work? :|
[16:53] <Chesamo> Um
[16:53] <Chesamo> It's disconnected but uj
[16:53] <Chesamo> uh*
[16:53] <white> wait
[16:53] <white> im making process
[16:54] <Chesamo> It shouldn't ask for a wireless Internet connection if you already have one
[16:56] <white> Alright. I'll wait for it finish configuring ;p
[16:58] <white> Ok chesamo
[16:58] <white> are you here right?
[16:58] <Chesamo> Yeha
[16:58] <white> alright
[16:58] <white> it says
[16:59] <white> "You need to run the network setup wizard once on computer. to run wizard that are not running windows xp, it requires windows xp CD
[16:59] <Chesamo> Oh, god
[16:59] <Chesamo> not that thing
[16:59] <white> wat
[16:59] <white> just ignore that process?
[16:59] <Chesamo> You don't have to run the setup wizard
[16:59] <Chesamo> see?
[17:00] <white> lol
[17:00] <white> that link told me to
[17:00] <Chesamo> "This feature is automatically available on clients running Windows XP. On clients running Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, or Windows Me, you must..."
[17:00] <Chesamo> You're running XP so you don't have to
[17:00] <white> ah
[17:00] <Chesamo> Try this http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/serverbroadband.htm
[17:01] <white> ok
[17:02] <white> lol it's already done itself
[17:03] <white> how can ubuntu connect to my computer actually?
[17:03] <Chesamo> Open up Ubuntu's Network Connections pane;
[17:03] <Chesamo> panel*
[17:03] <Chesamo> It should be next to the clock on the upper panel
[17:04] <white> you mean that wifi picture?
[17:04] <Chesamo> yes, that
[17:04] <white> it popped up "no network connection" when i hover over that
[17:04] <Chesamo> Click it
[17:04] <white> mhm
[17:04] <Appl6> Hey Chesamo.
[17:04] <Chesamo> Hey Appl6
[17:05] <white> well what next? i clicked wifi picture
[17:05] <white> should i click "connect to hidden wireless network..."?
[17:05] <Chesamo> Is the wireless network you just made in the menu?
[17:05] <Chesamo> No, it shouldn't be hidden
[17:05] <white> Um no
[17:06] <white> wireless is turned on this laptop...
[17:06] <white> i don't know if i should do something else
[17:06] <Chesamo> Did you select the right adapter to share?
[17:06] <white> yes
[17:06] <Chesamo> which one?
[17:07] <white> ADSL modem
[17:07] <Chesamo> You want to share the other one
[17:07] <white> ?
[17:07] <Chesamo> Share your wireless connection, not the modem
[17:08] <white> um
[17:08] <white> Well ok
[17:08] <white> it will work even i'm not connected to any wifi?
[17:08] <Chesamo> yes
[17:08] <Chesamo> That's the point
[17:09] <white> well it seen that only way i can select the adaptor is via setup wizard
[17:09] <Appl6> white: It's like turning your Windows XP machine into a router.
[17:09] <white> app16, i'm trying to but i couldn't make it
[17:09] <Appl6> white: No, it's fine, I was just trying to give you an idea of what's going on.
[17:09] <white> Yeah
[17:09] <white> But.. i dont get it
[17:09] <white> how do i share my wireless connection
[17:10] <Chesamo> White, are you following the guide I linked?
[17:10] <Chesamo> I don't think you are
[17:10] <Chesamo> This one here http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/serverbroadband.htm doesn't even mention the wireless setup wizard
[17:10] <tatsu011> lololol looka like dynex is out to bite me in the butt DX
[17:10] <white> AH
[17:10] <white> but
[17:11] <shahan> I want to uninstall a software which I have installed using WINE (of course a .exe file)
[17:11] <tatsu011> I need to locate a download to libqt4-network
[17:11] <white> i right-clicked wireless, and clicked properties
[17:11] <white> there's no option to share it
[17:11] <white> it's 802.11 btw
[17:11] <shahan> I want to uninstall a software which I have installed using WINE (of course a .exe file)
[17:11] <white> i just found that out
[17:11] <toni_bg> Please help, I have ubuntu netbook release on Acer Aspire One, but it didn't recognise my sony memory stick card, what to do?
[17:12] <Appl6> Chesamo: If you don't mind, can you tell me what the situation is?
[17:12] <shahan> I want to uninstall a software which I have installed using WINE (of course a .exe file)
[17:12] <Chesamo> shanan: we heard you the first time
[17:12] <shahan> I have gone to Wine>Uninstall Wine Software
[17:12] <Chesamo> Appl6: I think I figured out the problem, hang on
[17:12] <shahan> but not uninstalling
[17:12] <Chesamo> white: Right-click on your ADSL and choose to share it
[17:12] <Appl6> Chesamo: OK.  I have to leave fairly soon, but I'll be back later.  I thought I might get some thinking done while I'm gone. =)
[17:13] <white> Chesamo: App16: I right-clicked WIFI connection to make it to be shared, but there is no options to share it. Unlikely right-clicking my ADSL connection.
[17:13] <white> ye it's already shared
[17:13] <Chesamo> white: look at the fourth step
[17:13] <geirha> shahan: How do you determine it didn't get uninstalled?
[17:13] <Chesamo> white: you have to select which adapter to share OVER
[17:13] <Chesamo> toni_bg: What d you mean by "not recognized"?
[17:13] <white> on 4th step i dont have that optoin
[17:14] <Chesamo> Oh, crap it's
[17:14] <Chesamo> White: It would appear Windows is stupid.
[17:14] <white> lol
[17:14] <shahan> geirha: I am clicking "remove" by selecting the software I want to uninstall
[17:14] <shahan> geirha: but after clicking "remove " it becomes unselected item
[17:15] <toni_bg> it didn't appear on nautilus or in files & folders menu in volumes
[17:15] <Chesamo> shanan: browse to its program folder and run the uninstaller
[17:16] <Chesamo> toni_bg: Try a different USB port?
[17:17] <toni_bg> there no other slot
[17:17] <geirha> shahan: ... and? It doesn't get uninstalled?
[17:17] <Chesamo> toni_bg: There is only one USB port?
[17:17] <shahan> geirha: yes.. doesnt get uninstall
[17:18] <geirha> Then that program probably doesn't have information on how it should be uninstalled.
[17:18] <Chesamo> Shanan: Did you try going to ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files  and running the installer in there?
[17:19] <shahan> geirha: so.. what can I do now?
[17:19] <toni_bg> the stick is not on a usb port with adapter it's on a integrated sd, xd, memory stick slot on a netbook
[17:19] <shahan> geirha: now... its representing its name in wine>programs list
[17:19] <Chesamo> shahan: did you try going to ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files  and running the uninstaller there?
[17:19] <geirha> shahan: Do you have any other wine programs installed?
[17:20] <shahan> geirha: I want to remove the remove the name of the software from the list
[17:20] <shahan> Chesamo: I want to remove the remove the name of the software from the list
[17:20] <Chesamo> shahan: What list?
[17:20] <shahan> Chesamo:  wine>programs list
[17:21] <Chesamo> shahan: System > Preferences > Main Menu
[17:21] <Chesamo> toni_bg: Oh, it's a Memory Stick Pro Duo?
[17:21] <toni_bg> yes
[17:21] <shahan> Chesamo: not this
[17:22] <tatsu011> uhm... how do I edit the sources.list file in the ect/apt folder in Karmic o.o
[17:22] <shahan> Chesamo: want to remove the Wine>Programs(which r in program)
[17:22] <Chesamo> tatsi011: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:23] <Chesamo> shahan: I don't understand what you're saying
[17:23] <ddecator> shahan: as in Applications > Wine > Uninstall Wine Software?
[17:23] <shahan> ddecator: yes.. I have tried it
[17:23] <ddecator> shahan: yah, i've had spotty performance with that in the past
[17:24] <Chesamo> toni_bg: It looks like the card reader isn't supported under Ubuntu yet
[17:24] <shahan> ddecator: I also did it
[17:24] <shahan> ddecator: but its not working now
[17:24] <Chesamo> Shahan: What *exactly* are you trying to do
[17:24] <Chesamo> shahan: uninstall a program?
[17:24] <ddecator> shahan: you can try Applications > Wine > Browse C: Drive and find the uninstall.exe for the program. not sure if that will work either though
[17:24] <toni_bg> ok thx
[17:24] <shahan> Chesamo:  I have installed GOOGLE SKETCHUP7 sofware, which is a .exe software
[17:25] <Chesamo> Shahan: Yes, I know what WINE does.
[17:25] <shahan> Chesamo: now I want to remove that software
[17:25] <shahan> ddecator: I have deleted the folder
[17:25] <Chesamo> shahan: then you're done
[17:26] <shahan> ddecator: the programs folder, which I have installed, the GOOGLE SKETCHUP7
[17:26] <shahan> Chesamo: no..
[17:26] <Chesamo> shahan: the program is uninstalled, is it not? It's been deleted
[17:26] <shahan> Chesamo: the SKETCHUP 7 is still in the APPLICATION>WINE>PROGRAMS list
[17:26] <white> Chesamo: OH! I think i know why.
[17:26] <Chesamo> shahan: No need to shout
[17:26] <Chesamo> shahan: System > Preferences > Main menu
[17:27] <shahan> Chesamo: !!!
[17:27] <Chesamo> I already said this
[17:27] <shahan> Chesamo:  I dont want to remove WINE
[17:27] <Chesamo> It's a utility for editing the menus in Ubuntu. You can delete things from the WINE folder.
[17:27] <white> Chesamo: If you have more than one network adapter connected to local area networks, you'll see this screen instead. Click the down arrow and select the one to use for sharing the Internet connection. In this example, I'm using a wireless network.
[17:27] <white> Chesamo: >If you have more than one network adapter connected to local area networks
[17:27] <Chesamo> shahan: Listen to the words I am saying
[17:27] <white> >connected
[17:27] <ddecator> shahan: if you try to launch the wine program, does it still launch at all? the listing may be in there even though it's removed
[17:27] <shahan> Chesamo:  ok.. let me check
[17:27] <Chesamo> shahan: Just do what I said. You can remove the menu entry from there.
[17:28] <white> Chesamo
[17:28] <Chesamo> white: Yeah, I don't.... ick.
[17:29] <white> it's basically says that i need to be connected to specified network
[17:29] <Chesamo> white: Actually a friend of mine did it....
[17:29] <shahan> Chesamo: tnx
[17:29] <shahan> Chesamo: it has removed
[17:29] <Chesamo> white: Let me see if he's online
[17:29] <white> GREAT:D
[17:29] <Chesamo> White: Ah, he's not. I can leave a note for him though.
[17:29] <white> if not what's his messenger info?
[17:29] <white> aim?
[17:29] <Chesamo> White: I'll have him contact you. PM me your AIM name
[17:30] <white> i'll try to login to see if it's right name
[17:30] <white> k?
[17:31] <Chesamo> shahan: You're welcome
[17:31] <Chesamo> white: Check your PMs
[17:31] <white> on ubuntuforums?
[17:31] <Chesamo> On IRC
[17:31] <shahan> Chesamo: http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww145/shahan011/ubuntu%20Lucid%20Lynx%20LTS/5555.png
[17:32] <shahan> Chesamo: but the "sketch up " is still in the ADD/REMOVE list
[17:32] <Chesamo> shahan: No need to shout
[17:32] <Chesamo> shahan: That program is buggy. I wouldn't bother with it.
[17:33] <shahan> Chesamo: !!!... so.. is there any other way to remove it from the list?
[17:33] <Chesamo> shahan: That list? Not that I'm aware of
[17:33] <shahan> Chesamo: ok... tnx for ur help
[17:33] <shahan> Chesamo: see u..
[17:34] <Chesamo> see ay
[17:34] <Chesamo> ya*
[17:36] <white_> sorry
[17:36] <white_> internet disconnected
[17:37] <white_> wher'es chemase?
[17:37] <ddecator> oh, he logged off
[17:37] <white_> lol
[17:38] <ddecator> might be back in a minute, not sure
[17:40] <white_> lol
[17:40] <white_> hopefully
[17:40] <ddecator> what was it you were having trouble with?
[17:41] <white_> trying to make my adsl accessrunner to be shared with wireless, but i can't do that because wireless isn't connected to anything
[17:42] <ddecator> yup, i definitely have no idea how to help with that, haha sorry
[17:42] <white_> lol
[17:43] <shahan> in my GRUB I see that two kernel is installed
[17:43] <shahan> want to remove one
[17:44] <shahan> the older one
[17:44] <shahan> using 10.04 LTS of UBUNTU
[17:44] <ddecator> Ubuntu Tweak is your friend
[17:44] <shahan> ddecator:  I have tried it
[17:44] <shahan> ddecator: already removed it
[17:44] <shahan> ddecator: but its not removing from the GRUB list
[17:44] <shahan> ddecator: !!!
[17:45] <ddecator> shahan: maybe there was an update that installed another new version?
[17:45] <shahan> ddecator: !!!
[17:46] <shahan> ddecator: my two kernel is 2.6.32-21 and another is 2.6.32-22
[17:46] <shahan> ddecator: I have removed the first one from TWEAK
[17:46] <shahan> ddecator: but its showing in GRUB still now
[17:46] <shahan> ddecator: what can I do now?
[17:48] <shahan> mohi1: wb
[17:48] <shahan> mohi1: welcome back
[17:49] <ddecator> shahan: then it shouldn't show up in grub. open synaptic and see if linux-headers-2.6.32-21 is installed (if it is, don't remove it yet)
[17:50] <mohi1> hey shahan
[17:50] <shahan> ddecator:  its not installed
[17:50] <shahan> mohi1: facing problm with kernel
[17:51] <ddecator> odd, grub shouldn't show it then
[17:51] <shahan> mohi1: I have removed the older one using Tweak
[17:51] <mohi1> eh. shahan explain in PM
[17:51] <ddecator> alright, i'll let mohi1 help you out, i need to head to class. goodluck shahan
[17:51] <geirha> shahan: sudo update-grub  should remove the uninstalled kernel from the boot menu
[17:52] <ddecator> geirha: thank you, couldn't remember the command
[17:52] <mohi1> bai ddecator
[17:52] <shahan> geirha: oooo
[17:52] <shahan> geirha: tnx
[17:52] <shahan> ddecator: tnx
[18:31] <Guest87880> wut
[18:51] <shahan> mohi1: hey
[18:51] <shahan> mohi_: hello
[18:51] <mohi_> shahan, waitr
[18:51] <mohi_> wait*
[18:52] <shahan> mohi1: ok
[18:52] <shahan> mohi_
[18:54] <shahan> mohi1:  where r u?
[18:56] <vangelis> Anybody here knows how to configure zotero?
[18:59] <ZachK_> vangelis: zotero?
[18:59] <ZachK_> vangelis: little detail plz
[19:00] <ZachK_> vangelis: take a look at this page..might help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zotero
[19:05] <vangelis> Thanks ZachK but this doesn't help much. I think the problem might be with my java applet version, which I can't update
[19:05] <ZachK_> vangelis: what ubuntu verison?
[19:05] <ZachK_> "version
[19:05]  * ZachK_ cant' type right today ARGH!
[19:05] <vangelis> ZachK10.04
[19:05] <vangelis> ZachK: 10.04
[19:06] <ZachK_> vangelis: ok just a sec
[19:06] <ZachK_> vangelis: have you looked at this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[19:11] <vangelis> thanks again ZachK, but that's not either :D
[19:12] <ZachK_> vangelis: hmmm
[19:12] <ZachK_> vangelis: so what are you trying to do exactly?
[19:13] <vangelis> Zachk: insert a citation into openoffice using zotero (which is a firefox addon), the message I get is that openoffice cannot communicate with the firefox plugin
[19:17] <mukeshh> hi..m newbie to ubuntu...m using 10.04....wanted to connect to internet using 3g usb modem via wvdial....but i get ATDT *99# ERROR...pls help
[19:18] <mohi1> paultag, there??
[19:18] <paultag> mohi1, here?
[19:18] <mohi1> yep. help mukeshh paultag
[19:19] <paultag> hot damn
[19:19] <paultag> I have not played with that modem stuff since I was 8
[19:19] <paultag> mukeshh, I would ask your phone provider on the username and password info
[19:20] <mukeshh> paultag...its bsnl ,dialup no is *99# and user name ,pwd is blank
[19:21] <mohi1> mukeshh, you are connecting through mobile??
[19:21] <mukeshh> mohil...i told na...3G USB MODEM\
[19:21] <mohi1> hmm
[19:31] <tatsu011> question: will my dynex USB adapter (DX-BUSB) work with lynx?
[19:36] <tatsu011> will DX-BUSB work with ubuntu?
[19:36] <tatsu011> on another note~ lsusb doesnt want to work for some reason in Karmic
[19:37] <tatsu011> it just stalls :|
[19:38] <tatsu011> until I can figure out whats wrong I wont be having internet on my linux computer
[19:51] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, lsusb stalls...
[19:51] <tatsu011> I type in lsusb
[19:51] <tatsu011> terminal stalls
[19:52] <tatsu011> and quite litterally does nothing
[19:52] <ibuclaw> iirc, a faulty / incompatible USB device is inserted if that happened
[19:52] <ibuclaw> *happens
[19:52] <tatsu011> .-.
[19:52] <tatsu011> dynex is a bitch
[19:54] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, what you could try is:
[19:54] <ibuclaw> tail -f /var/log/messages/
[19:54] <tatsu011> kk
[19:54] <ibuclaw> errr
[19:54] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, tail -f /var/log/messages
[19:55] <ZachK_> !language | tatsu011
[19:55] <ibuclaw> !botabuse >:) | ZachK_
[19:55] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, after running that, *then* insert the dynex device
[19:56] <ibuclaw> wait 5 seconds, then run: tail -f /var/log/messages
[19:56] <ibuclaw> and observe any changes in output
[19:56] <mohi1> ZachK_, ibuclaw votebot is off :P
[19:57] <ZachK_> mohi1: yes i see that
[19:57] <ZachK_> mohi1: ubottu will be here soon hopefuly
[19:57] <ibuclaw> mohi1, not only is it off, it is late
[19:57] <mohi1> ah ok
[19:57] <ibuclaw> (as in the late Votebot)
[20:00] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, are there any changes to the tail /logs before and after you plug in the device?
[20:01] <tatsu011> several hex codes
[20:02] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: also, tail stalled too
[20:04] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, heh
[20:05] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, cat /etc/hosts
[20:05] <ibuclaw> does that stall?
[20:05] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, oh, ignore that... ;)
[20:06] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, tail didn't stall... it was meant to "just appear to hang there"
[20:06] <tatsu011> =o
[20:06] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, the -f option implies that tail monitors the file
[20:07] <tatsu011> ohhhhhh
[20:07] <tatsu011> ~
[20:07] <tatsu011> I see
[20:07] <ibuclaw> when the file gets updated, tail outputs the new appended data
[20:07]  * ibuclaw being blond for a moment ;)
[20:07] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: well along with hex codes I saw a few calls to ndiswrapper
[20:09] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, could you pastebin that?
[20:09] <ibuclaw> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:09] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: I will once I get it over here ;)
[20:09] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, I take it dynex is a wireless USB stick?
[20:12] <tatsu011> it is
[20:12] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: yep it is
[20:14] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/432393/
[20:17] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, hehe
[20:17] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, I take it you have used ndiswrapper before to install a driver for it?
[20:17] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: correct
[20:17] <ibuclaw> well... bad news, looks like that driver failed
[20:17] <ibuclaw> and ndiswrapper is soft locking up
[20:18] <ibuclaw> what you see there in that pastebin is the ndiswrapper module doing a "traceback"
[20:19] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: figures.... dynex has never worked with ubuntu... but I read around and heard of another driver for it....
[20:19] <ibuclaw> a traceback between the kernel backtracing the steps to the top point where the error occurred.
[20:20] <ibuclaw> those hex codes to describe are infact memory addresses that are related to the physical kernel binary file.
[20:20] <ibuclaw> *you describe
[20:21] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, well first think I'd do is remove the ndiswrapper driver then...
[20:21] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: restarted and then I removed the driver
[20:22] <tatsu011> because the gui interface for ndiswrapper also locked up
[20:22] <ibuclaw> ehe =)
[20:23] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, does lsusb work after the driver is removed?
[20:24] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: yes
[20:26] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: this is what I found earlier... http://ankurs.com/2008/04/installing-ndiswrapper-on-ubuntu-804/#comment-407
[20:33] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, what is the VID/PID of the device?
[20:33] <ibuclaw> you can get this from lsusb
[20:35] <ibuclaw> you'll see an: 'ID 1d6b:0001' style format on the same line as the device
[20:39] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: 4317:0720
[20:39]  * tatsu011 knows what it is since it says nothing next to it
[20:40] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: also virtualbox doesnt pick up the device
[20:41] <tatsu011> so I cant get internet that way =|
[20:41] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, you probably aren't forwarding usb devices properly to vbox
[20:41] <tatsu011> eh?
[20:42] <ibuclaw> iirc, you need to muddle about a bit with /etc/fstab
[20:42] <ibuclaw> but it has been a good few years since I last used it, so that may no longer be the case
[20:42] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: sudo gedit /ect/fstab ?
[20:43] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, well, googling that device ID brings back 4 links =)
[20:43] <tatsu011> narrow results = good news I hope
[20:43] <Appl6> tatsu011: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[20:44] <Appl6> tatsu011: For graphical applications, replace sudo with gksudo.
[20:47] <tatsu011> appl6: I see....
[20:48] <tatsu011> ... now I need help working out what to put :|
[20:48] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, 3 lead nowhere ;)
[20:48] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: c***
[20:48] <ibuclaw> and the final one concludes: "NOTE TO FUTURE UBUNTU USERS: DON'T BUY A DYNEX WIRELESS G "DX-BUSB" NETWORK ADAPTER!!!"
[20:49] <ibuclaw> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/69584
[20:49] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: FFFFF***********************************
[20:49] <ibuclaw> so it looks like you'll have better luck pulling Brad Pitt that you would get your device working, sorry :(
[20:50] <tatsu011> =<
[20:50] <Appl6> If only the linux hardware compatibility lists were better designed and managed.
[20:51] <ibuclaw> Appl6, the fact that they are community maintained and change frequently due to progress / regressions in drivers makes that difficult ;)
[20:52] <ibuclaw> for good references though:
[20:52] <ibuclaw> http://wireless.kernel.org/
[20:52] <ibuclaw> and especially here: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[20:52] <ibuclaw> ^^ nice database list of supported wifi cards
[20:53] <Appl6> ibuclaw: The first one doesn't seem to have a list of supported devices.  Did I miss it?
[20:54] <Appl6> ibuclaw: But the second one looks pretty excellent, thanks.
[20:55] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: know of any good wireless devices that equate to the range of my DX-BUSB?
[20:55] <Appl6> ibuclaw: Does anyone know of a place that sells computers that dual boot Windows and Linux?
[20:55] <Appl6> Uh, sorry, mistell.
[20:56] <tatsu011> Appl6: I dont know of any places that sell comps that are made like that, but I know where you can get one without an operating system
[20:56] <ibuclaw> Appl6, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices
[20:56] <Appl6> ibuclaw: Clearly I'm an internet pro.  Thanks.
[20:57] <Appl6> tatsu011: I can quickly turn a computer with an OS into one with no OS =)
[20:57] <tatsu011> xD
[20:58] <tatsu011> anyone know of some good wireless devices?
[20:58] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, linksys are pretty well supported: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Linksys
[20:59] <ibuclaw> I live and breed off Intel Wireless 3965/4965's though =)
[20:59] <ibuclaw> they are wonderful wireless cards that do exactly what they are supposed to do.
[21:00] <ibuclaw> I will also vouch for any Atheros 5k chips
[21:01] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, probably best thing to do is visit a local store and make a note of what they sell. Then check back on which is supported by Linux and decide on merits which one to get.
[21:02] <ibuclaw> ideally, you'll want to avoid any device that depends on ndiswrapper in order to get you connected =)_
[21:02] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: sees this:
[21:02] <tatsu011> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5201967&SRCCODE=WEBGOOSKU21&cm_mmc_o=mH4CjC7BBTkwCjCECjCE
[21:02] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: im happy
[21:03] <Appl6> tatsu011: Geez, $10?!
[21:03] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, that looks to be all good (apparently ;)
[21:03] <ibuclaw> and yes ... that is cheap
[21:04] <ibuclaw> (like, £5-6 here)
[21:04] <tatsu011> I got that as a result from looking at that list
[21:04] <tatsu011> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Linksys (ibuclaw) this
[21:04] <ibuclaw> tatsu011, I noticed ;)
[21:05] <ibuclaw> hope that goes well...
[21:05] <ibuclaw> if not, I'd happily buy it off you :þ
[21:07] <tatsu011> ibuclaw: lol
[21:08] <tatsu011> I am done here for now....
[21:09] <tatsu011> I shall go find some downloads for some updates as my ubuntu kinda... needs em for programming
[21:28] <tatsu011> ok mebby Im not done here;
[21:29] <tatsu011> where do I find .deb installers for mono and wine without using apt-get?
[21:33] <tatsu011> ok found wine o.o
[21:38] <ZachK_> hello javatexan
[21:43] <tatsu011> o_o....
[21:43] <tenach> tatsu011, what's up?
[21:43] <tatsu011> ok I am not going to download 30 files one by one just to install mono O_O
[21:44] <tatsu011> Im installing wine and mono on a linux machine that does not have internet access
[21:44] <javatexan> howdy
[21:44] <tenach> Oh jeeze.
[21:45] <tenach> tatsu011, I feel your pain.
[21:45] <tatsu011> tenach: your linux has no internets either o_o?
[21:46] <tenach> It does, but I have worked on machines that didn't.  For a while, I didn't have net either... One program I wanted had a ton of dependencies.
[21:46] <tenach> 65+ files not counting the application .deb
[21:47] <tatsu011> O_O
[21:48] <tenach> Yeah.
[21:49] <tenach> Took me two hours to get them all, only to find out I had downloaded amd64 and not 32bit. :(
[21:49] <tatsu011> ouch x.o
[21:49] <tenach> Yeah.
[21:51] <tatsu011> installing em is one thing....
[21:51] <tatsu011> downloading is a whole different beast
[21:51] <tenach> Yeah.
[21:51] <tenach> Once you have them, it's no problem.
[21:51] <tenach> It's getting them that's a pain.
[22:44] <tatsu011> .... windows just did an epic fail for me .-.
[22:47] <tatsu011> blue screen of death @ trying to download to a usb flash drive
[22:47] <Chesamo> Download.... a USB flash drive?
[22:47] <Chesamo> That's quite the feat
[22:47] <tatsu011> to a usb flash drive xD
[22:47] <Chesamo> I can't imagine the compression algorithm.... plastic to binary? Gosh
[22:47] <Chesamo> heheheh I know :P
[22:48] <tatsu011> xDDDDD
[22:48] <paultag_> Chesamo, don't be so sure
[22:48] <paultag_> Chesamo, the 3D model printers :)
[22:48] <Chesamo> Well, they could do it in Pokemon!
[22:48] <tatsu011> for each item as molucule in USB_DEV
[22:48] <Chesamo> Transmit living beings over the Internet :V
[22:48] <paultag_> Chesamo, you could download a usb device spec, and print it out
[22:48] <Chesamo> Yeah, yeah, I know. Don't you rain on my parade D:
[22:49] <paultag_> Chesamo, ;)
[22:49] <Chesamo> Stupid technology, making my jokes obsolete
[22:49] <tatsu011> I am downloading VLC
[22:49] <tatsu011> and its taking an age and a half
[22:52] <[woody]> tatsu011: yeah, it is a pretty nice sized download :)
[22:52] <paultag_> hey [woody]
[22:52] <paultag_> [woody], I did something awesome today
[22:53] <[woody]> heya paultag_ :)
[22:53] <[woody]> what's that? :o
[22:53] <paultag_> [woody], I moved a circular table into my room. Put it square in the middle of tons of free space. Put down on it a coffe maker, light, UNIX texts, my netbook and a set of speakers
[22:54] <paultag_> It's finals week
[22:54] <[woody]> sounds very productive, haha
[22:54] <paultag_> haha
[22:54] <[woody]> I think I would wind up playing with the coffee maker the whole time ;)
[22:54] <[woody]> and speaking of finals, I'm just taking a break from some work atm...
[22:55] <paultag_> [woody], me too :)
[22:55] <[woody]> I just got done typing up an interview I had with sabdfl for my Intro to Bus class :)
[22:56] <[woody]> he's a very cool guy :)
[22:56] <paultag_> nice!!!
[22:56] <paultag_> BRBz
[22:57] <[woody]> I'm guessing most other people's papers will be on some local resturant owner or something like that...
[22:57] <[woody]> and mine went into space, haha :)
[23:08] <paultag_> [woody], haha
[23:16] <nomnex> is there a Gedit plug-in to directly view the markup language in the browser (e.g. open in FF)?
[23:18] <pedro3005> nomnex, seems unlikely as Gedit is not connected with firefox
[23:18] <pedro3005> perhaps a firefox addon
[23:18] <nomnex> pedro3005, u on GNOME?
[23:18] <pedro3005> yeah
[23:19] <nomnex> what text editor do you use?
[23:19] <nomnex> pedro3005, what text editor do you use?
[23:20] <pedro3005> gedit
[23:21] <nomnex> so everytime you select open a file when you check your tags?
[23:21] <pedro3005> what?
[23:21] <nomnex> do you write XHML?
[23:21] <nomnex> ...XHTML or HMTL
[23:22] <pedro3005> no.. I write Python, does that count?
[23:24] <nomnex> maybe not? you tell me. My question is to check the markup in a browser (s) the quick way.
[23:24] <pedro3005> hm... don't know
[23:25] <nomnex> okay, thanks, I will take a look at Bluefish maybe
[23:25] <nomnex> good python writing
[23:27] <pedro3005> thanks
[23:43] <Karan139> The Ubuntu documentation says it supports my wireless chip, but I still cant connect or see my wireless networks. Any help? Im using 10.04 freshly installed!
[23:43] <Karan139> My chipset model is: PRO/Wireless 2915ABG
[23:44] <Karan139> I just installed it and eveything seems to work, but when I go to network connections, and click on wirleess, no networks show up.
[23:44] <Karan139> Any help?
[23:44] <ZachK_> Karan139: first hi...second is your network hidden?
[23:45] <Karan139> no
[23:45] <Karan139> My other computers can find it
[23:46] <ZachK_> hmm
[23:46] <ZachK_> one sec then
[23:56] <Karan139> any luck?
[23:58] <starcraftman> Karan139: interesting, your on intel wireless and having trouble. It doesn't happen to say network disabled when you click does it? I've run into a weird glitch on mine with that.