[00:48] <lapion> does anyone know how I can permantly set things such the video-scan method? and the audio delay ?
[00:48] <mcl0vin_> mrand: are you still arround
[00:51] <mcl0vin_> !info channel changer
[00:51] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about info channel changer
[01:03] <mcl0vin_> anyone here
[03:16] <OpenMedia> Any ETA on 0.23 GM builds showing up in Mythbuntu?
[03:52] <mcl0vin> howdy folks
[03:55] <tgm4883> OpenMedia, GM?
[03:55] <OpenMedia> tgm4883: Golden Master - They have now released 0.23
[03:56] <tgm4883> OpenMedia, there won't be one unless someone gets an SRU for it.
[03:56] <mcl0vin> !seen tgm4883
[03:56] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about seen tgm4883
[03:56] <tgm4883> we recommend running auto-builds, which has more current versions than 0.23 release
[03:56] <mcl0vin> tgm4883: you back :)
[03:57] <tgm4883> mcl0vin, yep
[03:57] <mcl0vin> am gonna need your help sir , if possible
[03:57] <tgm4883> not at work now either
[03:57] <tgm4883> well, not at my paid job
[03:57] <mcl0vin> ??
[03:58] <tgm4883> mcl0vin, i'm coding now
[03:58] <tgm4883> at home
[03:58] <tgm4883> rather than helping customers at work
[03:58] <tgm4883> so I might actually respond quicker now
[03:58] <mcl0vin> tgm4883: aha
[03:59]  * mcl0vin confused...are you able to help me now or you are busy coding :)
[03:59] <mcl0vin> aha
[04:00] <mcl0vin> tgm4883: so i tested my card, and i record video and audio fine , but still when i try to whatch live tv , i get black screen
[04:00] <mcl0vin> someone mention that i should set up channel changer earlier , but i am stuck
[04:00] <tgm4883> ok, lets see the backend logs from right after you tried watching TV
[04:02] <mcl0vin> !paste
[04:02] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about paste
[04:02] <mcl0vin> what is the myth paste url again please
[04:03] <tgm4883> !pastebin
[04:03] <Zinn> when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[04:04] <mcl0vin> tgm4883: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/yNRZMAqR
[04:04] <tgm4883> mcl0vin, this is a recent one?
[04:04] <mcl0vin> yes
[04:05] <tgm4883> odd, cause the last timestamp is
[04:05] <tgm4883> 2010-05-11 19:52:13.658
[04:06] <mcl0vin> tgm4883: the time is not set correctly i think
[04:07] <tgm4883> well the last error before that is
[04:07] <tgm4883> 2010-05-10 21:05:58.157
[04:07] <tgm4883> 23 hours earlier
[04:07] <tgm4883> you just tried watching TV on it?
[04:08] <mcl0vin> yes
[04:08] <mcl0vin> not right now rightr
[04:08] <mcl0vin> maybe 4 hrs
[04:23] <mcl0vin> tgm4883: any luck yet you think
[04:24] <tgm4883> mcl0vin, sorry jumping back and forth
[04:24] <tgm4883> delete that log, then reproduce the issue and upload a fresh log
[04:24] <tgm4883> then we can rule out any of the really old errors
[04:24] <mcl0vin> tgm4883: dude you are helping me so no worries
[04:24] <mcl0vin> ok will do
[04:25] <mcl0vin> front and back
[04:25] <mcl0vin> ?
[04:25] <mcl0vin> delete both of them
[04:25] <tgm4883> yea
[04:34] <st8ofmi9d> Is anyone using a Dell Zino as a MythTV frontend? I was for a few months but I must have had a defective unit because it started overheating. Dell sent me a new unit (came with Win 7 even though my original had Vista) and I installed Ubuntu 9.10 on it. I tried 10.04 but the version of MythTV wasn't compatible with my Mythbuntu backend and I'm not willing to mess with the backend at the moment. After installing 9.10 o
[04:34] <st8ofmi9d> n the new unit, I decided that I would rather use HDMI for video and sound than VGA and the front audio jack (back audiojack didn't work for me before). I needed to use the restricted drivers but I am able to get sound over HDMI except for MythTV. I played around with the MythTV setup/general/audio output device settings but no luck. I have options for ALSA:default, ALSA:spdif, ALSA:surround 5.1, ALSA:analog, ALSA:di
[04:34] <st8ofmi9d> gital, ALSA:mixed analog, ALSA:mixed digital, ALSA:hdmi, ALSA:plugwi0.3, /dev/dsp, /dev/adsp, Jack:output and NULL. I tried most of those options and I still don't get sound from MythTV. I went to Ubuntu's sound preferences and under hardware I have "RS780 Azalia controller" in addition to "Internal Audio" I have the RS780 checked off for sound output. However, when I play a recording under MythTV, I still see "No ap
[04:34] <st8ofmi9d> plication is currently playing or recording audio" under the application tab of the sound preferences screen. What am I doing wrong? If I play sound from something like Pandora.com I see it listed int he applications tab. Has anyone else got MythTV to play sound over HDMI?
[04:34] <Zinn> [pandora.com] Pandora Radio - Listen to Free Internet Radio, Find New Music
[04:36] <tgm4883> st8ofmi9d, don't put that much text in here at one time
[04:36] <tgm4883> I doubt anyone will read all of it
[04:36] <tgm4883> and it just makes people mad
[04:36] <st8ofmi9d> tgm4883: sorry, I was trying to be descriptive
[04:36] <tgm4883> with that being said
[04:36] <tgm4883> superm1 might be running that
[04:48] <mcl0vin> tgm4883: guess what! ..its working
[04:48] <mcl0vin> tgm4883: i got few issues...you ready
[04:54] <mcl0vin> tgm4883: 1) the screen had those two letter box ( two black vertical lines, kinda scqueezing the picture
[04:56] <mcl0vin> tgm4883: 2) i can't get audio out of the box, to my external Amp/receiver. if i use a headphone i can hear audio on one side
[04:56] <mcl0vin> tgm4883: 3) i still need to setup my remote
[04:57] <mcl0vin> tgm4883: 4)How do i setup channel changer
[05:13] <mcl0vin> anyone got autio sync issue
[06:25] <tgm4883> mcl0vin, I'm headed to bed, but for 4) you need to copy that script from mythtv wiki to a location on your backend, then configure your backend to point to that script (in mythtv-setup)
[06:26] <tgm4883> and 3) depending on the remote you have, you might be able to set it up in mythbuntu-control-centre
[06:26] <tgm4883> 1) Make sure your screen resolution is correct. If it is, then in appearance (under settings in the frontend), you can set up overrides for screen deminisions
[07:36] <superm1> tgm4883, if st8ofmi9d comes back around it sounds like he was using pulseaudio...
[07:36] <superm1> so all sorts of problems there if he is trying to enable a specific device
[11:12] <lapion> does anyone know how I can permantly set things such the video-scan method? and the audio delay ?
[14:38] <qwebirc97662> hello
[14:39] <qwebirc97662> I have just downloaded and installed Mythbuntu 10.04 and it is asking for a Login
[14:39] <qwebirc97662> what username and password should I use/
[14:39] <qwebirc97662> ?
[14:40] <rhpot1991> qwebirc97662: at which point?
[14:40] <rhpot1991> are you still on the livecd or did you reboot?
[14:41] <qwebirc97662> livecd I think
[14:41] <qwebirc97662> I put the CD in and restarted the PC
[14:41] <qwebirc97662> now I have a screen with Login in the middle
[14:43] <rhpot1991> qwebirc97662: try no password?
[14:45] <qwebirc97662> what username?
[14:45] <qwebirc97662> I tried root + no passowrd
[14:45] <qwebirc97662> and blank + blank
[14:45] <qwebirc97662> all give auth failure
[14:49] <rhpot1991> try ubuntu and empty
[15:33] <st8ofmi9d> Does anyone have a Dell Zino working as a frontend? I'm having troubles getting sound over HDMI working with MythTV but it works with other applications.
[15:44] <RobertLaptop> Is there anyone around that can help me with an lirc issue?
[15:46] <rhpot1991> !ask | RobertLaptop
[15:46] <Zinn> RobertLaptop: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[16:05] <tgm4883> st8ofmi9d, it might be a pulse audio issue
[16:05] <tgm4883> superm1> tgm4883, if st8ofmi9d comes back around it sounds like he was using pulseaudio...
 so all sorts of problems there if he is trying to enable a specific device
[16:07] <st8ofmi9d> tgm4883: I'm using whatever was standard in the 9.10 install. Does that mean pulseaudio? If so, should I be installing something else?
[16:08] <tgm4883> st8ofmi9d, if you installed mythtv on top of ubuntu, then pulseaudio is installed
[16:08] <st8ofmi9d> tgm4883: Yes, I installed mythtv frontend using synaptic
[16:09] <tgm4883> !pulse%
[16:09] <Zinn> Pulse Audio, aka kitten killer.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio for more information.  Pulse Audio seems to cause problems with MythTV.  If you are having trouble, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/460579 for potential work arounds
[16:09] <tgm4883> st8ofmi9d, try that
[16:10] <st8ofmi9d> tgm4883: thank you! I'll try it out.
[16:13] <mrand> hmm... that bug may or may not still apply.  Perhaps it applies to 9.10 but not 10.04.  Will have to check that out some year
[16:16] <st8ofmi9d> mrand: I'm on 9.10 because the mythtv frontend installable from the synaptic package manager is compatible with my backend. My ultimate goal is to PXE boot but I'd have to either run all DHCP on the backend or upgrade to a DD-WRT router...neither of which I'm up to at the moment.
[16:17] <muns> anyone got a working hvr-1600 working in mythbuntu? i'm still having problems after many reinstalls and still getting snow when i know i have cable...maybe i'm doing somethin wrong here that someone can enlighten me on
[16:21] <muns> i'll go thru the driver and kernel install again maybe i missed somethin
[16:21] <tgm4883> I might have a hvr-1600
[16:21] <tgm4883> hmm
[16:21] <tgm4883> !dev
[16:21] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about dev
[16:22] <tgm4883> Tuner 2: Hauppauge HVR-1600
[16:22] <tgm4883> muns, yes I do
[16:22] <muns> ok i'm redoing this again http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HVR-1600
[16:22] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Hauppauge HVR-1600 - MythTV
[16:23] <tgm4883> muns, what version of mythbuntu?
[16:23] <muns> the latest 10.04 updated with auto-build
[16:23] <tgm4883> are you building the drivers?
[16:23] <muns> this is fresh install
[16:23] <tgm4883> or just adding the firmware
[16:23] <tgm4883> IIRC, I just added the firmware
[16:23] <muns> hmmm
[16:24] <muns> got an insite on how to do that or what site to go thru steps
[16:24] <tgm4883> Oh, I don't use the analog half either
[16:24] <tgm4883> there is a firmware section on that webpage
[16:24] <muns> cable is only 2-97 and i know its digital but coming thru the lines its analog i think
[16:24] <tgm4883> which is probably the same page I followed
[16:25] <muns> or maybe cable company updated to complete digital
[16:25] <tgm4883> um
[16:25] <tgm4883> ok
[16:25] <tgm4883> does linux detect the card?
[16:25] <muns> are u connected viat the qam/clear digital coax connector or the tv part
[16:25] <muns> ya
[16:25] <tgm4883> the coax connector
[16:25] <muns> so digital side
[16:26] <tgm4883> muns, how did you set it up in mythtv
[16:26] <tgm4883> yea I only do digital
[16:26] <tgm4883> I do OTA
[16:26] <muns> aah
[16:26] <muns> i'll try both after i get this fuzz out lol
[16:26] <tgm4883> How did you set it up in mythtv-setup?
[16:27] <muns> a site said to use cardtype ivtv and source is schedulesdirect.com and us-cable and all that
[16:27] <Zinn> [schedulesdirect.com] Schedules Direct
[16:28] <muns> so u didn't do the hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb
[16:28] <Zinn> [linuxtv.org] v4l-dvb: log
[16:33] <muns> do u think its better to have both connections on card connected via a splitter so can pull both sides of card?
[16:37] <tgm4883> no
[16:37] <tgm4883> I used DVB
[16:37] <tgm4883> since I use digital
[16:39] <muns> kk just wondering if i should try that since we do have actual digital hd channels in the system
[16:40] <muns> never watch em cuz its crap few hd chans anyhow like news and such lol nothing real good
[16:40] <muns> anyhow i'm trying what u did firmware and now gonna reboot...brb
[17:05] <st8ofmi9d> tgm4883: Thank you for the tip. All I needed to do was add "export EXPERIMENTALLY_ALLOW_PULSE_AUDIO=1" to my .profile file.
[17:11] <mrand> st8ofmi9d: are you using 0.23, or 0.22?
[17:11] <st8ofmi9d> mrand: .022 for now.
[17:12] <st8ofmi9d> mrand: I'm too scared to touch my backend since it took me some time to get running.
[17:13] <mrand> My 0.22 to 0.23 was pretty painless (I'm still running 9.10)
[17:13] <mrand> As I recall (might be wrong), that export was depreciated in 0.23.
[17:15] <st8ofmi9d> mrand: So does that mean that the fix will no longer work after I upgrade?
[17:27] <muns> tgm4883, still there?
[17:33] <mrand> st8ofmi9d: I've not heard/seen lots of crys, so my assumption is that the setting isn't required on 0.23 (maybe that setting got flipped and now defaults to 1?  I can't recall right now)
[18:01] <tgm4883> muns, i'm in and out today. I've got a class today
[18:02] <muns> aah we are out of school for the day lol
[18:02] <muns> well no go on that fw update and rebooted still same thing
[18:02] <muns> do i need to try a downgraded version of mythv instead of 0.23 or compile my own kernel or what
[18:07] <tgm4883> muns, there is more than just the firmware update. You will need to set it up correctly in mythtv-setup
[18:07] <tgm4883> if you are using digital, then it needs to be setup as a dvb card
[18:08] <muns> ya i've done what that site said to do even started fresh from step one but errors out at the command make  lol
[18:08] <tgm4883> then you need to create a guide data source and connect it to the dvb card (IIRC, steps 3 and 4)
[18:08] <muns> yup yup
[18:08] <tgm4883> well why are you doing make?
[18:09] <tgm4883> Are you using analog?
[18:09] <muns> since i did the fw update i went into the mythtv-setup and redid my configuration chosen ivtv / tuner 1 / /dev/video0 and detects card then i chosen the guide source
[18:09] <muns> then tried the chan scan and no lock
[18:10] <muns> ya
[18:10] <tgm4883> do you have analog sources?
[18:10] <tgm4883> who is your cable companY?
[18:10] <muns> allegiance communications
[18:10] <tgm4883> hmm
[18:10] <tgm4883> never heard of them
[18:10] <muns> kansas/missouri
[18:10] <tgm4883> and they send you a analog source?
[18:11] <muns> well its digital to the headend and then from there it xfers still analog thru the lines i think...but i can try the dvb digital side of the card
[18:11] <tgm4883> yea I would try the dvb side
[18:12] <muns> kk so cardtype is dvb then
[18:12] <muns> brb
[18:19] <RobertLaptop> Hopefully someone can help.  I decided to replace one of my backend because the old one is dieing but when I got the new hardware It forced me to upgrade from Mythubutu 8.04 to 9.10/10.4 when I upgraded my front end LIRC stopped working any idea's how to get a Hauppauge Win-to-go the same chip-set as the PVR150 working?
[19:56] <Jay2k1> so, are there any plans/timings when 0.23 will be available in the packages? mythbuntu 9.10
[19:56] <rhpot1991> Jay2k1: use the autobuilds
[19:57] <Jay2k1> i do
[19:57] <Jay2k1> is it just changing 0.22.to 0.23 in dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-repos?
[19:57] <Zinn> [0.22.to] International Instant Domain Development
[19:57] <Jay2k1> whoops-
[19:58] <Jay2k1> what a stupid domain name
[19:59] <rhpot1991> indeed
[19:59] <rhpot1991> Jay2k1: if you sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythbuntu-repos
[19:59] <rhpot1991> it should ask you what version of myth
[19:59] <Jay2k1> yeah
[20:00] <rhpot1991> choose 0.23 and do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:00] <Jay2k1> just wasn't sure if it'd be stable (fixes, that is) or trunk
[20:00] <Jay2k1> uh, trunk would mean svn or whatever they use i guess
[20:00] <rhpot1991> well we released .23 in lucid, and its been officially released at this point from mythtv, so I'd say its good to go
[20:01] <Jay2k1> yes, that's why i ask :)
[20:01] <Jay2k1> that it's released in lucid doesn't mean anything
[20:01] <Jay2k1> i made that experience when installing 9.10
[20:01] <rhpot1991> I'm running it without any issues
[20:01] <Jay2k1> and not being aware of auto builds at that time
[20:01] <rhpot1991> what do you mean?
[20:01] <Jay2k1> well, when i built my htpc, i installed 9.10
[20:02] <Jay2k1> had quite some bugs
[20:02] <rhpot1991> ah got the .22 rc?
[20:02] <Jay2k1> yup
[20:02] <Jay2k1> :)
[20:02] <rhpot1991> ya due to the way ubuntu releases we had to ship RCs there, and then recommend people use the autobuilds to get the latest fixes
[20:02] <rhpot1991> unfortunately thats not something we can have the installer do so our hands are tied there
[20:03] <Jay2k1> when i complained about some bugs here, they asked me what version i used, and it turns out i wasn't quite up to date, had a bunch of updates when i enabled auto builds
[20:03] <Jay2k1> yes, i got to know that
[20:03] <Jay2k1> i suggested making the auto-builds thing more visible on the homepage, because idiots like me don't read release notes if they don't upgrade
[20:04] <tgm4883> yea we should do that
[20:04] <Jay2k1> like <h1>please enable auto builds after installing!</h1>
[20:04] <Jay2k1> auto builds being linked to its page
[20:04] <Jay2k1> i mean, i really had no idea, also i thought any updates would be fetched by apt-get update/grade automatically
[20:05] <Jay2k1> since that is not possible, throw it into people's faces :)
[20:05] <rhpot1991> Jay2k1: well updates are possible there, but generally only updates to major bugs and not just a collection of fixes
[20:06] <rhpot1991> but ya, we are aware of the issues
[20:06] <Jay2k1> the ones that make it into the default ubuntu repos huh?
[20:06] <mrand> Jay2k1: right.  And that takes a fair amount of work and handholding to get pushed out.  Which is less time for the Mythbuntu team doing other stuff.
[20:07] <Jay2k1> um, what exactly are you talking about?
[20:09] <mrand> hehe.  It's usually me asking that of other people ;-)
[20:09] <mrand> I meant to say that Updating the already released official/default ubuntu repos takes some non-trival doing.
[20:09] <Jay2k1> aaah
[20:09] <Jay2k1> thats not what i'd ask for anyway :)
[20:10] <Jay2k1> i didn't even know you'd be able to do it at all
[20:10] <Jay2k1> regardless of how easy or not it is
[20:10] <mrand> Jay2k1: sure... you still get 9.10 updates from time to time, right?  This would be the same thing.
[20:11] <Jay2k1> i thought that's from default ubuntu repos
[20:11] <tgm4883> Jay2k1, that is. We could do the same, it's just a lot of work
[20:11] <mrand> yep, that's what I'm talking about.  For the people that either don't want to enable auto-builds, or don't even know it exists.
[20:13] <Jay2k1> how easy would it be to add a little note to the end of the install process? something like the blue screen that occasionally pops up with debian-based updates, for example when a .conf is being replaced
[20:13] <tgm4883> where would be a good place to put auto-builds info?
[20:14] <tgm4883> That would be a debconf note, and wouldnt' be too difficult
[20:14] <tgm4883> is that the right place for it though?
[20:14] <Jay2k1> that'd be a good start imo
[20:14] <tgm4883> superm1, ^
[20:15] <mrand> I don't think superm1 or others would go for that... didn't we talk about this before and that would be too close to making a PPA "official", which Ubuntu in general frowns on.
[20:15] <tgm4883> mrand, IIRC, we can't have it auto-added, or have a button that auto-adds it
[20:15] <Jay2k1> i don't know about these issues, i'm just suggesting what i would do/prefer - if possible.
[20:16] <mrand> Although it is being used more and more.  mythtv has had a semi-official PPA forever.  There is a semi-official for firefox and a number of other apps as well
[20:16] <tgm4883> but I think we could do something like (the mythbuntu team recommends...)
[20:16] <mrand> Jay2k1: no problem.
[20:16] <mrand> tgm4883: ah, yes.
[20:16] <tgm4883> I have too many half finished mcc plugins as it is, I don't need to start work on something else
[20:19] <Jay2k1> also, as already said, i'd probably add a note to the downloads page with a link to the page that describes the auto builds feature
[20:20] <Jay2k1> perhaps explaining why it's necessary doing it manually with a few words so people wouldn't think "what's this for a nonsense, why is this not done automatically"
[20:20] <tgm4883> Jay2k1, you mean on this page http://mythbuntu.org/download-type
[20:22] <Jay2k1> i'm the (imo) typical user. what do i do? i go to http://mythbuntu.org. i see "download" in the navbar and click it. i start reading on the left, the first icon is what i want, so i don't pay attention to the other three, overlooking auto builds
[20:23] <Jay2k1> i click the first, see a download button and that's what i want, so i click it, done
[20:23] <Jay2k1> perhaps i look around some more on the page while it downloads, but don't count on it
[20:24] <Jay2k1> so, I'd say the best place would be at http://mythbuntu.org/downloads
[20:24] <rhpot1991> we can't mention the PPA in the install process at all, I asked superm1 about it before
[20:24] <tgm4883> well with what you just said, you make it sound as if I need you to click on the auto-builds link before you even get download iso
[20:24] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, really?
[20:24] <tgm4883> I thought it already was
[20:24] <rhpot1991> actually maybe I wanted it as a question there
[20:24]  * tgm4883 checks
[20:25] <rhpot1991> and not just words
[20:25] <tgm4883> there is the slideshow
[20:25] <tgm4883> which IMO is the best place for it
[20:26] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: IMO most people prob don't watch that
[20:27] <rhpot1991> I start installing and go do something useful
[20:27] <tgm4883> yep it's in there
[20:27] <rhpot1991> wonder if we can do a "whats next" popup when you are done installing
[20:27] <tgm4883> although it needs a slight typo correction
[20:28] <tgm4883> Also, mrand rhpot1991 I would like to create "stories" on the website for bug fixes and new packages that get pushed to -testing
[20:29] <tgm4883> you can take a look at the latest news on the site to see what I mean
[20:30] <Jay2k1> http://pub.jay2k1.com/screenshots/myth-auto-builds-suggestion.png <- quick and dirty
[20:30] <Zinn> [pub.jay2k1.com]
[20:30] <Jay2k1> just so you see what i mean roughly
[20:31] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, perhaps. That is a question for superm1
[20:31] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: thats a good place on the downloads page
[20:31] <Jay2k1> perhaps not as invasive, but above the download button
[20:31] <RobertLaptop> I upgrade from Mythubutu 8.04 to 9.10/10.4 when I upgraded my front end LIRC's stopped working any idea's how to get a Hauppauge Win-to-go the same chip-set as the PVR150 working?
[20:31] <tgm4883> ok, i'll play with the wording a bit and if superm1 doesn't like it he can pull it out
[20:32] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: I think we asked about including mythbuntu-repos in MCC by default and thats a no too, correct?
[20:32] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, yea thats a NO
[20:32] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: how is that a no, but we include a plugin that enables medibuntu?
[20:32] <tgm4883> we can't add anything that would automatically add 3rd party repos
[20:33] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, we don't include a plugin that enables medibuntu anymore
[20:33] <tgm4883> that got pulled the same time we asked about -repos
[20:33] <tgm4883> it was an oversight
[20:33] <rhpot1991> ah
[20:33] <rhpot1991> I'm out of date
[20:33] <rhpot1991> so we don't have dvd support or anything like that in MCC anymore?
[20:33] <tgm4883> why is openid not working on the site?
[20:33] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, oh we have dvd support
[20:34] <tgm4883> it's just not activating the medibuntu repo
[20:34] <tgm4883> we run the install-css.sh script
[20:34] <rhpot1991> RobertLaptop: set it up again in MCC?
[20:34] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: ah I thought that came from medibuntu
[20:34] <tgm4883> which downloads and installs libdvdcss2 from medibuntu
[20:34] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, it does
[20:34] <rhpot1991> ah, so we just aren't enabling their PPA then
[20:34] <tgm4883> right
[20:34] <rhpot1991> sillyness
[20:35] <tgm4883> I know
[20:35] <rhpot1991> why can't we just do that and warn
[20:35] <tgm4883> basically it just does the same thing that flash installer does
[20:35] <RobertLaptop> rhpot1991, I tiried MCC several times.  Installed from scratched.  For some reason lirc_i2c just isn't loading/seeing the hardware :(
[20:35] <tgm4883> Jay2k1, what if I add that disclaimer to this page  http://mythbuntu.org/download-type
[20:36] <tgm4883> because alot of people add mythtv to existing installs I think
[20:36] <Jay2k1> hmm, possibly
[20:36] <tgm4883> I mean, there are 3 times as many people that get the ISO
[20:36] <Jay2k1> either this or both on the download page for new install and on the page for add to existing
[20:36] <Jay2k1> i don't really know
[20:36] <Jay2k1> oh ok :)
[20:37] <tgm4883> I'll grab a cookie and think about it
[20:37] <Jay2k1> think about the wording as well ;)
[20:39] <rhpot1991> "enable autobuilds to fix your broken stuff!"
[20:45] <kalelme> hello
[20:45] <kalelme> something is happening to me  and I have not getting how to solve it, I have an encore ENLTV-FM 5.3, I  have set up correctly, and it works, the problem I have is that the  image quality is very bad, if I see the channel with tvtime, is the  right way, at 720x480, but if I see from the mythtv (see tv), but is  very poor quality, I tested the quality up in the configuration but the  same thing. anyone has any suggestions
[20:45] <Jay2k1> hmm, apt-get upgrade says that 11 packages are being held back, why is that?
[20:47] <rhpot1991> Jay2k1: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:48] <rhpot1991> and apt should have told you which ones when it said that
[20:48] <Jay2k1> of course
[20:48] <Jay2k1> mytharchive mythgallery mythmovies mythmusic mythtv-backend mythtv-common mythtv-frontend mythtv-themes mythtv-transcode-utils mythvideo mythweather
[20:49] <Jay2k1> i'm a bit afraid of doing a dist-upgrade
[20:50] <rhpot1991> Jay2k1: do it to see what new packages are added, my guess is libmythtv-perl
[20:50] <rhpot1991> it holds a package back if they depend on a package that isn't currently installed
[20:51] <Jay2k1> and the reason they don't get installed as dependencies is that they are dependant on 10.04?
[20:52] <rhpot1991> is this your 9.10 system right?
[20:55] <Jay2k1> yup
[20:56] <rhpot1991> Jay2k1: the package named changed from libmyth-perl to libmythtv-perl, thats the issue
[20:56] <Jay2k1> oh, lol
[20:57] <pteague> if i set up a cut list & use mytharchive to create a dvd... is it supposed to automatically use the cut list or do i need to do something special? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythArchive wasn't to specific other than mentioning that it's a main feature of the dvd creation part
[20:57] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] MythArchive - MythTV
[20:59] <Jay2k1> and these packages are dependant of the newly named perl package, which i can't install on 9.10 i guess?
[20:59] <Jay2k1> it would probably even screw things up
[21:00] <rhpot1991> Jay2k1: yes you can, dist-upgrade
[21:00] <rhpot1991> and it will install it for you, and the updates
[21:00] <rhpot1991> its in the autobuilds ppa
[21:00] <Jay2k1> lets hope it won't break my system then :)
[21:01] <rhpot1991> no promises, you should be safe
[21:05] <Jay2k1> hmm, nothing about perl tho
[21:05] <Jay2k1> but libmyth-0.23-0
[21:05] <Jay2k1> i guess that's the key
[21:08] <rhpot1991> that'd do it too
[21:12] <Jay2k1> thanks for your advice!
[21:22] <kalelme> any have a encore enltv-FM ?
[21:22] <superm1> i dont like the idea of recommending so directly auto-builds like that
[21:23] <superm1> i feel as though it's asking for a recipe for disaster
[21:23] <superm1> particularly since you can have a stable system without them
[21:23] <superm1> and it adds another variable to make it more unstable
[21:26] <Jay2k1> well
[21:27] <Jay2k1> the main problem was the combination of the too-early release of mb 9.10
[21:27] <Jay2k1> so myth 0.22 was still rc
[21:27] <Jay2k1> which i wasn't aware of
[21:31] <Jay2k1> also, i assumed that when i have a special edition of ubuntu with mythtv, i'd get updates for the whole system, including mythtv when doing apt-get upgrade
[21:37] <rhpot1991> Jay2k1: which you will, if they are available
[21:37] <rhpot1991> its just much harder to get updates in post release, which is why we do the PPAs
[22:02] <mcl0vin> howdy folks