[00:19] I have a networking issue, is anyone a network guru in here? this one may be hard to spot [00:20] drop it in here, if someone can help they'll pipe up :) [00:20] storrgie: still breaking stuff ? i might be able to help [00:20] yeah this is the same ongoing issue [00:20] I'm not exactly sure what it is or how it may be related to things [00:20] I would draw you a picture if i could [00:20] let me explain my network [00:21] ok [00:21] gateway is a U-Verse modem [00:21] ok [00:21] wired directly into a WRT54GL router [00:21] that router does everything [00:21] i got one of them [00:21] the modem doesnt do junk [00:21] so behind that router we have various machines [00:21] important one is a server [00:21] big rig [00:21] running ubuntu 10.04 [00:21] Why have the mrt54gl then ? [00:22] wrt54gl uverse router is all in one [00:22] no the U-verse modem doesnt do anything [00:22] noo [00:22] the WRT54G is a router [00:22] the Uverse 2wire thing is our modem [00:22] yes the hg 3800 is a router/modem i have one :/ but continue [00:22] alright [00:22] so [00:23] i made a change [00:23] i moved all linux machines to 10.04 [00:23] thats four laptops, my server and one desktop [00:23] my main laptop [00:23] i use pidgin on it [00:23] im using it right now to talk to you [00:23] i use it for IRC/Gtalk/AIM/etc [00:23] oik [00:24] alright so [00:24] after the change i tried something new [00:24] the server [00:24] our fileserver [00:24] i set up KVM on it [00:24] using bridged networking [00:24] i started up a bunch of VMs [00:25] so it appears [00:25] when I have VMs running [00:25] on the server [00:25] my laptop [00:25] which is completely seperate [00:25] arbitrarily drops connections to gtalk/aim/irc [00:25] but only when the VMs are really talking [00:25] like one of them [00:25] i put transmission-daemon on [00:26] if transmission-daemon is running [00:26] poof i drop connections on my laptop like crazy [00:27] I am not sure of this one... :( [00:27] yeah [00:27] i am super confused [00:28] could be that either the machines change something in your network settings or that there is alot of traffic and it keeps flooding you off [00:29] yeah i think its the traffic thing [00:29] i am sniffing right now [00:31] I see a TON of traffic like this: [00:31] http://pastebin.com/GjFHtEk6 [00:31] it seems to be taking place between my router and a windows machine on the network [00:31] the only windows machine [00:32] can you output more of it... [00:33] your using wireshark right ? [00:33] yep [00:34] http://imgur.com/rZlk1 [00:35] which is which then ? [00:36] Cisco --- Liteon [00:36] cisco is the router [00:36] liteon is my roomates silly dell running windows 7 [00:36] how do i check for network loops [00:36] maybe STP is hurting me [00:37] network loops would be in the network configuration but maybe he is running filesharing [00:39] i doubt he is, but either way thats a lot of traffic [00:39] not sure how to stop it [00:39] you could also check both routers configuration if he is port forwarding it to run a different application maybe [00:40] the windows machine? [00:41] yes whatever liteon represents lol ( only knows liteon as cd/dvd burners ) [00:41] sorry [00:41] dropped [00:41] is there an official vm [00:43] http://ckp.made-it.com/ieee8022.html [00:44] dominicdinada: i just dont know what to do [00:44] but it doesnt describe why it is flooding the windows machine, is that connectivity off and on also ? [00:44] yeah [00:44] off and on [00:45] and if you turn off the transmission daemon what happens ? [00:46] stability... it appears [00:46] !transmission [00:46] blah [00:46] !daemon [00:46] what about it === f1yback is now known as flyback [00:47] well is there a setting to specify the address that you want to use the transmission daemon ewith [00:48] i'm going to open a small programming office, How can i benefit of the Ubuntu Server Cloud technology in that environment ( about 4 PCs connected with Ubuntu Server by LAN ) ? [00:48] Because this is all traffic from your router so it is not the machine that is running transmission daemon unless it is sending requests for other clients/servers [00:52] anyone can help ? [00:52] I have not worked with cloud as of yet [00:52] !cloud | egsome [00:53] !server [00:53] Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server [00:53] egsome: http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud [00:54] at all, with cloud in ubuntu server i can get for example ( low spec. PCs ) and let them work with the cloud ( that is installed on a very high spec. PC ) , Right ? [00:55] as i assumed it uses free resources for other machines but in a tiny office i dont see the gains unless you are using CAD or Video editing not just IDE's [00:56] from what i know it shares resources and well simple text,ide's are not intensive to begin with [00:57] like i said before graphics,cadding, video editing and so on would gain from it but dont rely on what i say [00:57] when i think of cloud, i think more of server farms that are not efficently using the processors and or load balancing [00:58] dominicdinada, thanks anyway, and i think that you're right [00:58] dominicdinada, anyway i were thinking in ways to make the PCs less in spec. and for sure suitable for programming [00:59] egsome: like i said get a second opinion but from text book in my networking classes........ i dont see a gain other than centeralizing files [01:00] egsome: I hate to say it but a descent PC/Laptop etc you can get for a few hundred hell you can even develop on netbooks [01:01] dominicdinada, yeah that's right, but the screen size would be so hard, so i think about a desktop pc for each programmer [01:01] true :P [01:02] dominicdinada, i thought today about mainframes :), i see it would be useful in my case, one big computer do all the job, and some screens and KBs and Mouses .. no more :) [01:05] yes [01:05] that would work build a good server and then you can do that [01:06] 1 server 4 TB 16 Gigs ram.... but then your already paying more for the server than 4 brand new mid grade pc's again unless your makinggames,video blah blah :P [01:07] i forgot games before and top end gamming machine cost a few grand [01:27] "HostRAID" = fake raid, yes ? [01:28] this supermicro board is giving me "adaptec raid" and "intel raid" [01:28] slipperychicken, #dmraid -r (to expose fakeraid) [01:28] on boot with adaptec, it's posting with "HostRAID - ICH10R" [01:28] booting... [01:29] ich10r is fakeraid via northbridge [01:30] so with this DMRAID command, it'll tell me whether or not it's a real raid controller ? [01:30] ps: this whole raid-trickery is silly, imho. [01:30] it tells what fakeraid metadata is there [01:30] so miss leading. [01:30] aight. [01:30] unless you setup ich10r raid bios, there should be none [01:32] slipperychicken, I got ich5r metadata to work with an upgrade to ich10r before [01:33] moved some drives from a p4 mboard to a C2Duo [01:33] hrm, there is no OS installed, just booting from the 10.04 server iso. [01:33] dmraid isn't in the installation. [01:34] would using the irc10r raid be better than an MD software raid ? [01:34] easier to recover from a disaster i'm guessing ? [01:34] slipperychicken, if you don't want ich10r keep going, but if you do then start over and setup the raid bios [01:35] whats are the pros of using ICH10R vs MDraid ? [01:35] or cons. [01:36] you would need a ICH10R raid controller to read the raid if the server blew up, yes / [01:37] if you are going to co-locate the box and didn;t have access, then fakeraid is trouble [01:37] that's what's going to happen. :) [01:37] it's going to a data centre in about 3 days. [01:37] 24x7 biometric access. [01:38] slipperychicken, if your OS and boot partition will go on raid, then don't use fakeraid [01:38] MD raid it is. :) [01:38] slipperychicken, data on fakeraid is OK [01:38] thx mate. [01:38] that's what i'm reading. === gospch_ is now known as gospch [04:45] <_Snark> ok. I have a ubuntu server softraid setup with LVM. All is fine. Until I get to the grub install, wherein it critically fails. I have 2 disks mirrored in softraid. any pointers? :| [04:46] <_Snark> i have a bios/grub partition on sda seperate to the raid/lvm volumes [04:47] <_ruben> /boot can live on softraid just fine, grub just doesnt handle it being on lvm (lilo does afaik) [04:47] <_ruben> not sure if grub2 changes any of that [04:48] _Snark im not expert but maybe here is the answer to your problem http://is.gd/c59jt [04:48] <_Snark> well, i'm not using grub2, just grub1, and yeah [04:50] <_Snark> grub-installer just reports "wrong number of args: mapdevfs " [04:50] <_Snark> when i try and run it manually on md0 [04:51] <_Snark> this is 10.04 LTS, btw [04:51] <_ruben> i always use the grub command to install it onto a sw raid .. and i thought 10.04 used grub2? [04:51] <_Snark> and this is after completely giving up on getting 10.04 running on this machine with fakeraid :| [04:51] <_Snark> it can use either i thought? [04:51] <_Snark> but i could be wrong. [04:51] <_Snark> *could [04:53] <_ruben> http://paste.ubuntu.com/432025/ <-- my notes on installing grub1 on sw raid "manually" [04:54] <_Snark> regardless which it is, it isn't happy, and none of the error messages / logs report anything useful as a result of the "critical failure" [04:55] <_Snark> i don't have grub normal available.. i don't think [04:55] <_Snark> this is during the 10.04 guided install [04:55] <_Snark> i've just switched to a new terminal to mess about on cli in the hopes i can trick the thing into working :| [04:56] <_Snark> i have grub-installer and that's it from the looks [04:56] <_ruben> assuming grub1, you should be able to chroot into the installed system and run grub from there [04:57] <_ruben> how to do this trick with grub2 i dont know (yet) [04:58] <_Snark> both grub1 and grub2 seem to be available on the disk, still nfi which is attempting to be used though [04:58] <_Snark> *install CD that is [04:59] <_ruben> i think grub2 is used by default on the recent versions [04:59] <_Snark> main partition is mounted under /target it seems.. aaaand there isn't much there. [05:00] <_Snark> can't get the grub-installer script to return anything bar the "wrong number of args" message either [05:00] <_Snark> le sigh. [05:00] <_Snark> it seems like this shouldn't be such a struggle. [05:00] <_ruben> odd, it should be containing the installed system indeed [05:01] <_ruben> i dont even recall the last time i had issues with grub (be it 1 or 2) .. i just make sure /boot always is either a plain partition or 'simple' sw raid volume, and put the rest on lvm .. has worked like a charm for me thusfar [05:15] <_Snark> i have /boot on a small ext4 partition on sda [05:15] <_Snark> grub is still critically failing while attempting to install [05:16] <_Snark> and giving no indication as to why [05:16] <_Snark> so far 10.04 has made me want to shoot myself in the face :| [05:18] That's a feature [05:19] But I wouldn't use ext4 for /boot... [05:19] <_Snark> guess it stops people from running off to use other distros :p [05:20] <_Snark> well, i am not married to anything, and low on knowledge, i'm not used to having to faff about anywhere near this much when installing any distro [05:30] I screwed up my grub when upgrading to Lucid; I forgot to mount my /boot partition during the upgrade, so the new kernel got put onto the main volume (which is a logical volume in a physical volume in a RAID5...it's slightly complicated); when I moved the kernel back to the dedicated root partition (which itself is a RAID1, but that isn't as important), it screwed up the boot. [05:30] If I run it with a liveCD, how much work will it be to tell Grub where the kernel is now? Just rerunning update-grub or something? [05:32] Depends how stupid grub is these days. [05:32] You used to be able to fake your way through it by just installing grub into the MBR manually. [05:32] It's using grub2 now. [05:32] Precisely [07:46] ladies and gents, I'm running a dedicated server on Karmic, it has 2 internal HDs and I can't get the second HD to work if my life depended on it. Badly enough, as soon as that second HD has a partition on it I can't remote boot that server again. Anyone willing to help me out with this? [07:49] IpWned: is it listed in /proc/partitions? [07:50] it is yes [07:50] OK, so it's working. [07:50] to elaborate [07:50] if sdb is unpartitioned [07:50] I boot fine [07:50] but as soon as i run fdisk and partition [07:50] Is the bootloader installed to both disks' MBRs? [07:51] the server won't boot to the point where SSH loads anymore [07:51] nope only sda [07:51] sdb is pristine-empty [07:52] These are SATA disks? [07:52] oddly enough, once a partition is present on sdb, the only way i get to boot far enough to get SSH is to completely destroy sdb's mbr using dd command [07:52] yes SATA [07:52] i should mention it's a remote server [07:53] so I don't see any screen output once the partition is present [07:53] OK, I hypothesize that what you consider to be the "first" disk is actually plugged into the second port on the motherboard. [07:53] that's down the line I was thinking [07:53] Your BIOS is "helpfully" swapping them around in software when it discovers that there's no partition table on the first disk [07:53] I have had *lots* of problems along those lines with remote C4/grub1 SATA deployments. [07:53] sighs. nuthin but trouble with server.lu [07:54] it sounds reasonable [07:54] only thing i can imagine at this point [07:54] the drive seems to work fine if I format and mount it in a running session [07:54] What you want to do is either 1) have the local monkey swap the cables; and/or 2) ensure that there's a boot path from either disk [07:54] uhm .lu tickets are infamous for taking 5 days lol [07:55] how would i go about putting a boot path on the second drive [07:56] New bug: #578922 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "mysql configuration does not prevent against combined attacks against LAMP stack" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/578922 === kirkland` is now known as kirkland [08:07] IpWned: I don't know what a .lu is. [08:07] IpWned: you'd do exactly the same thing you did to make the first drive bootable [08:08] Probably something along the lines of grub-install '(hd1)', and possibly ensuring /boot is mirrored across all drives in a RAID1. [08:20] i use squashfs to backup data. when i append my sfs-file with -keep-as-directory -option, how can i set the directory name to be appended? [08:24] hi all [08:24] how can I backup online server in ubuntu? [08:28] trapmax: I'm curious; why did you select squashfs? [08:32] I got confuze with all backup tools [08:33] Irun ubuntu server , I need some solution to make online backup [08:39] twb sorry was spurting off to try it lol my bad [08:39] .lu is server.lu [08:39] my hoster [08:56] twb: i have lots of small files and duplicates. [09:05] the link in the channel topic looks outdated: http://tinyurl.com/ubuntuserv [09:06] trapmax: what, squashfs does block dedupping? [09:06] Hmm, I suppose it might effectively achive that due to gzip [09:19] mcas: Hi [09:23] mcas: I am getting this when start tomcat servelet engine: WARNING: No rules found matching 'Server/Service/Engine/Host/Host/Valve'. [09:26] hi people, I creating seed files to automatically restore my Ubuntu servers. I can't find several parameters though. Is there somewhere full reference of seed parameters? [09:27] I want to preseed answer for question should system download language packages [09:28] kirkland, eucalyptus (backend) is java based? [09:29] duh, already found answer :) [09:29] nevermind [09:29] RoAkSoAx: parts of it (CLC, WC, SC) are Java based [09:29] Java's "enterprise-ready"! :-/ [09:29] RoAkSoAx: CC and NC are written in C [09:30] kirkland, ty [09:36] Can anyone help? [09:42] is it safe to use torrent as a backup. without the .torrent file you wont be able to download the seeded file right? === Guest_52 is now known as jmazaredo [10:05] <_ruben> torrent as backup solution, how odd is that :) [10:49] Hi [10:49] I'm new in the Linux world and system administration [10:49] I've created a local server on the internal networks at home and I installed LAMP + Samba + Openssh on the server for the application of the study. [10:49] Ubuntu server version I used is 10.04 [10:49] The device used a bit old, but he works well [10:49] A connected devices on the network are: Sony PlayStation 3 and DreamBox and another computer in addition to the server and all networked to the modem type of Cisco EPC2425 by cables and I have a laptop connected by wireless. [10:49] We have come to the problem [10:49] The problem is that when I run the server the wireless disappears from the network and laptop disconnected (if it was) and when I Turn off the server the wireless comeback to appear and the connection is excellent. This is the problem [10:49] Of course, those who will ask, have I modified a file in the server interface to the work static ip . [10:49] Information network interface on the server of the type Netgear FA310TX [10:49] Thank you === klaas- is now known as klaas [11:57] hi ppl [11:57] nobody have a resolve to my question === Russ is now known as Russ|Out [12:01] hello [12:02] any body there [12:06] Hi [12:06] I'm new in the Linux world and system administration [12:06] I've created a local server on the internal networks at home and I installed LAMP + Samba + Openssh on the server for the application of the study. [12:06] Ubuntu server version I used is 10.04 [12:06] The device used a bit old, but he works well [12:06] A connected devices on the network are: Sony PlayStation 3 and DreamBox and another computer in addition to the server and all networked to the modem type of Cisco EPC2425 by cables and I have a laptop connected by wireless. [12:06] We have come to the problem [12:06] The problem is that when I run the server the wireless disappears from the network and laptop disconnected (if it was) and when I Turn off the server the wireless comeback to appear and the connection is excellent. This is the problem [12:06] Of course, those who will ask, have I modified a file in the server interface to the work static ip . [12:06] Information network interface on the server of the type Netgear FA310TX [12:06] Thank you [12:18] ????????? [12:21] <_ruben> said1976: define "wireless disappears" [12:22] i can connect to my wireless network [12:23] its look like the modem stop sending wireless [12:23] *i can't [12:24] (01:22:44 PM) said1976: i can't connect to my wireless network [12:24] did u got it ruben?? [12:25] <_ruben> the most obvious, but unlikely at the same time, would be that the server emits so much radio noise, that it interferes with the wifi signal .. what happens when you power on the server but dont connect the network? [12:26] <_ruben> or do you see the network, but cant get an ip address? [12:26] <_ruben> "can't connect" is a tad ambiguous [12:28] ok, i mean the network desappeard , when the server is off i can see the network name and can connect to it [12:29] but when i start the server , i disconnect automaticlay from the network if i was logged on, or if not , i dont see my network name [12:30] i didnt try to start the server and plugd it out [12:30] i will when i get home [12:32] got it ruben?? [12:32] <_ruben> you could also see if the modem does do any logging and see if anything weird shows up when you power up that server .. and double check its wifi settings when it doesnt work [12:43] thanx ruben, i did check my moden many times , but i will check again when i get home [12:43] ruben , you will be here att night , or in which times u are online [12:43] ? [12:47] <_ruben> said1976: during working hours (8am-4pm) i tend to be more or less around (but also doing work, so not always responsive) .. during the night im here when im here ;) (same timezone as you btw) [12:49] _ruben: ok, i will try what u told me to do and see, otherwise if u come with something new in the next tow and half hour so just post it to me, thanx [12:50] <_ruben> sure, no problem === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [13:09] hi all [13:10] just download 10.04 Ubuntu Server and wishing to install on a HP Proliant that has no OS onit already [13:12] can anyone help at all [13:14] phil_: You'll have better luck if you ask an actual question here :) [13:14] phile_:its simple, burn the iso file on cd and run it on the HP and follow the instructhion [13:15] tried that however the server is not booting to the cd/dvd rom for some reason [13:18] Read the manual in order to know what key you have to press or BIOS setting to set in order to boot from CD. (and make sure the CD drive isn't broken or can't read writable cd's) [13:19] does it matter that i have dual dvd drives [13:19] I'm trying to upgrade 4 hardy servers with do-release-upgrade, but they all say 'No new release found'. Isn't that the proper way? [13:19] phil_: no [13:19] phil_:you have to go to the bios in your HP and change the the boot option to boot from the cd-rom [13:20] alvin: it's probably not flagged for server release upgrade yet [13:20] RoyK: Oh, ok. I can wait. Thanks [13:20] thankyou for your help i will try and find my manua now [13:20] alvin: dunno, but someone said here that won't happen until 10.04.1 will come out [13:20] alvin: do-release-upgrade -d if you can't wait :) [13:21] Nono, I can wait. If it's not flagged, there's probably a good reason for it. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [13:43] hello to all. i have a external usb disk but the access to the data on this usb disk is very slow. anybody know any tweeks to make the usb disk more responsive ? [13:48] xperia: Might be worth checking you're plugged into a USB2 rather than the older & slower USB1 interface. [13:48] well it is a usb1 port on the server [13:49] xperia: In that case it will be, very, very slow. [13:49] xperia: It's just a limitation of the interface I'm afraid. [13:49] why that cant understand becouse even a ls on the disc takes sometime minutes [13:50] till i get the list of a few files in a directory [13:50] xperia: If you have lots of files in the directory you're performing the ls on then it's relatively normal. === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [13:51] the thing is it is allways the first time. on the second run it is very fast but okay it looks like all the problems are related to usb1 [13:52] xperia: Second time the meta data will be cached and so it doesn't need to go over the USB interface. [13:52] Omahn: ahhh okay thanks for the info. well need in this case usb2 at least [13:53] xperia: No problem at all. If possible it might be worth purchasing a USB2 interface card, they're relatively cheap. [13:54] ohhh did not know that. have to search in ebay then. on the otherside have to look if i have any free slots. [13:55] xperia: Ah, yes, you will be a little stuck if you don't have any slots :-) [13:57] Omahn: have done some transfer tests with hdparm on this usb disk [13:57] what do you think about this values [13:57] "/dev/sdb2: [13:57] Timing cached reads: 2 MB in 2.12 seconds = 965.21 kB/sec [13:57] Timing buffered disk reads: 4 MB in 3.92 seconds = 1.02 MB/sec" [13:57] so it is 1 MB per second [13:57] xperia: Yep, that's about right for USB1. [13:58] bad bad bad [13:58] xperia: Yeah, only useful for mice and keyboard really. [13:58] yeah indeed. have pluged in a 1 TB USB DIsk and have to save a lot of Videos on this Disk over Internet [13:59] xperia: Wikipedia says USB1 is capable of a maximum 1.43MB/s, with overheads 1.02MB/s is probably the quickest it will go. [13:59] Omahn: thank you a lot for your Help. Got more wise now [13:59] xperia: No problem. :-) === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [14:42] hi guys [14:42] is ubuntu-server 8.04 LTS can fit in on a CD-R..? [14:42] Hi ruben23 [14:42] or does it need to be on a DVD-R [14:43] 700M CD-R [14:43] Omahn: thanks [14:44] pl [14:44] Wrong window. damn. [14:44] Omahn:what country are you..? [14:45] ruben23: UK [14:45] Omahn: you a sysadmin..? [14:45] ruben23: Indeed. [14:45] very nice [14:45] what application servers you maintain..? [14:46] ruben23: I work more at the operating system level rather than the application level, we have other groups for that. [14:47] Omahn: whats on the opearating system level..? === Russ|Out is now known as Russ [14:48] ruben23: I've just double checked the 8.04 ISOs and the server releases will actually fit on a standard CD-R. The alternate and desktop ISOs do need 700 CD-R though. [14:49] Omahn: yeah i have burned it now on a clean CD-R [14:50] Omahn: im sure you good at what you do.. [15:06] kirkland, waiting for you :) [15:44] does anyone here have a default lvm install on a fresh 10.04? i have a simple question === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ === oubiwann_ is now known as oubiwann === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ === oubiwann_ is now known as oubiwann [15:53] ryoohki: server? [16:06] guntbert: yes. i want to know the default lvm names for the root vg and the lvs / and swao [16:07] ryoohki: just installing - I'll tell you when its finished [16:07] guntbert: in fedora it would be VolGroup00/LogVol00 for / and VolGroup00/LogVol01 for swap [16:08] ryoohki: did you choose "guided - entire disk - with lvm" ? [16:08] guntbert: in ubuntu i think it maybe servername/root and servername/swap_1 [16:08] guntbert: no but that's the info i want to know [16:08] ryoohki: trying ... [16:10] guntbert: i think you can see the info with "egrep 'root|swap' /etc/fstab" or "vgdisplay" or "lvdisplay" or "lvscan" [16:10] ryoohki: yes, but only after the installation :-)) [16:11] guntbert: do you have an eta? [16:12] ryoohki: maybe only a few minutes [16:13] guntbert: thanks! i'll wait [16:15] hi whats the features and added stability for the new ubuntu-server..? [16:15] ryoohki: I'm doing it in a VM -- its muck quicker :-) [16:15] the new release [16:17] ryoohki: the root VG is just the server name [16:18] root is on servername/root and swap is on servername/swap_1 as you already guessed :-) [16:20] thanks! [16:21] ryoohki: you're welcome :-) [16:21] i'm going vm too, i'm going to have ubuntu server 10.04 and 2 uec ubuntu 10.04 cloud instances [16:22] guntbert: going to practice private cloud at home [16:22] guntbert: is there a ubuntu uec channel? [16:22] ryoohki: have fun :-) [16:22] guntbert: thanks again [16:23] ryoohki: I don't know about an uec channel - best try it here [16:29] hi whats the features and added stability for the new ubuntu-server..? [16:30] new release version [17:08] can anyone tell me why "do-release-upgrade" crashed my server? [17:09] when i reboot i get not display [17:10] is anyone here? === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ === oubiwann_ is now known as oubiwann [17:19] hi anyone can help, i got connection refused ssh on my ubuntu-server [17:19] i got connection refused [17:20] ruben23, have you installed openssh-server? [17:20] anyone have idea..? [17:20] yes [17:20] during the fresh install [17:20] but problem [17:21] oubiwann: please don't change your nick so often [17:21] when i do /etc/init.d/sshd restart----> i get no such directory [17:21] aoeuhtns: what could it be [17:22] you need to apt-get install openssh-server [17:22] like he said [17:22] ruben23, that should be /etc/init.d/ssh [17:24] aoeuhtns: same thing no such file or directory.. [17:25] cipher42: i have install openssh-server during the installation process [17:26] ruben23, I'd say do "apt-get install openssh-server" just to see what happens [17:26] package openssh-server is not available [17:26] yea sounds like it's not there [17:26] apt-get update [17:26] then try again [17:26] when i do apt-get install openssh-server [17:26] after apt-get update [17:28] apt-get update--> reciving package now [17:31] does btrfs come with ubuntu-server 10.04? [17:31] cipher42: after update ill run this again--> apt-get install openssh-server [17:31] right..? [17:31] cipher42: don't use it [17:32] right [17:32] btrfs is far from stable [17:32] use zfs if you need that functionality [17:32] want to use it so bad... [17:32] either with fuse or on fbsd or osol [17:32] it gets updated with kernal updates right? [17:32] yes, and you can update it manually [17:33] if you want to play with it, make sure you backup your data [17:34] i read people are having good results with it [17:34] sure, but it's not stable [17:34] so it's like playing with matches and petrol - might work well [17:35] can i change from ext4 to btrfs later? [17:35] yes [17:35] it will convert the whole fs for me? [17:35] btrfs has an upgrade path for that [17:35] yes [17:35] and keep the ext4 (or perhaps just ext3, don't remember) as a snapshot [17:36] https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Conversion_from_Ext3 [17:37] do i have to do it from another system [17:37]