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yuriy_workshtylman: great work on the installer00:01
shtylmanyuriy_work: thanks00:17
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yuriy_worktoo bad now grub2 won't see my MS Windows XP install00:54
ForgeAusis there some kinda way to combine the show desktop, show widgets and perhaps even window list? (show windows?) into one icon and a little more control over how much space panel plasmoids take up?07:25
jontheechidnaanybody seen jcastro around in the hotel?07:41
jontheechidnaI gotta talk to him about Crew duty07:42
jontheechidnagrr, out of battery07:45
nixternalScottK: according to the intertubes, arch is where you go for the most upstream like experience :p08:28
jontheechidnanixternal: haha08:28
nixternaland KDE was first, so why does GNOME do translations different :p08:28
jontheechidnaarch is infallible08:28
nixternali actually kind of like arch to be honest :D08:28
jontheechidnaI dare you to say that in the UDS room :D08:28
nixternalshhh, don't tell anyone08:28
nixternalgotta find the channel in my list here08:28
nixternaldamnit, i lost that channel again....all of these chans are hard...ooh thanks for the highlight, now I know where to go :)08:31
Riddelldantti: spec https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuMaverickPrinterTools08:44
Riddellnothing complex :)08:44
danttiRiddell: great thanks08:46
jontheechidnayeah, gobby went down here in the hotel too08:47
jontheechidnaoops, wrong chan08:47
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shadeslayer_kubotu: np11:29
kubotushadeslayer_ listened to "Fireflies" by Owl City [Ocean Eyes, 2010] 3 months ago; [http://open.spotify.com/track/1mr3616BzLdhXfJmLmRsO8] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/shadeslayer_ for more11:29
neversfeldekubotu: np11:30
kubotuneversfelde listened to "Hot N Cold" by Katy Perry [One Of The Boys, 2008] 6 minutes ago; [http://open.spotify.com/track/0IZM2onaTBMRTEIcc5oIi9] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/neversfelde for more11:30
neversfeldeno, I definetly did not :)11:30
shadeslayer_hehe11:30
neversfeldeeeks, I did, but I was not in the room11:31
shadeslayer_same thing here.. im listening to something else and kubotu doesnt report it :P11:31
neversfeldelast.fm databse seems not beeing updated fast enough11:32
shadeslayer_yeah :)11:32
shadeslayer_ooh amarok now shows the last and next track.. 11:32
shadeslayer_yes i just noticed that :P11:33
shadeslayer_neversfelde: accepted :P11:35
neversfelde:)11:35
shadeslayer_i rarely listen to music on my laptop though :P11:36
shadeslayer_hmmm... one of my teachers just called me up and says grub doesnt display a option to boot windows :P11:44
shadeslayer_update-grub doesnt help too.. the windows loader doesnt show up there too \o/11:44
shadeslayer_i guess im going to fail in his subject :P11:44
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JontheEchidnaneversfelde: gratz14:31
neversfeldeJontheEchidna: thanks14:31
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: good thing we decided to dump mailody for 10.04: http://www.omat.nl/2010/05/13/akonadi-meeting-here-i-come-mailody-is-dead/14:46
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Riddellanyone seen shtylman?  he might be interested in the daily builds session16:17
Riddellanyone seen shtylman?  he might be interested in the daily builds session16:17
macoRiddell: is there an echo?16:30
Riddellmaco: is there an echo?16:31
maco[11:18:26] <Riddell> anyone seen shtylman?  he might be interested in the daily builds session16:32
maco[11:18:46] <Riddell> anyone seen shtylman?  he might be interested in the daily builds session16:32
Riddellecho echo!16:33
etretyakHi Riddell! Long time no see :)16:34
etretyakRiddell, do you know if someone is working on Windicators in Kubuntu?16:35
Riddellhi etretyak, how's the chocolate covered pork far?16:35
Riddellnot that I know of, agateau would be the guy to ask16:35
etretyakRiddell, never tasted it :P16:35
Riddellhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/kwwii/4599955634/  I think the guy in the background is trying to read over rgreening's shoulder16:36
jjessetime for rgreening to get a screen protector :)16:40
Riddellnew spec! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuMaverickCouncil16:44
nixternalmornin'!16:45
RiddellJontheEchidna, ScottK, agateau: in or out for dinner?16:47
JontheEchidnaRiddell: Is it still raining?16:47
JontheEchidnaI suppose I can just get my jacket, now that me and my roomie's door lock is fixed ;)16:48
RiddellJontheEchidna: doesn't look like it16:48
JontheEchidnaCool. I'd support going out, since we weren't all able to go yesterday, and it's a good excuse to get out ;)16:49
JontheEchidnaThough that reminds me, I need to file for a voucher for last night...16:49
RiddellJontheEchidna: into brussels maybe since i think you went to Waterloo yesterday16:49
Riddellif you bought a meal you just claim the cost back in the expenses form after UDS16:50
JontheEchidnayes, pretty much all of us except you went to Waterloo yesterday16:50
JontheEchidnaWhere is the form located?16:50
Riddellyou'd need to ask jcastro but you just fill it in and charge whatever the per diem is per day (25 euro?)16:51
nixternalheh, i never claimed any of my meals from UDS'16:51
jjesseoops16:51
JontheEchidnaIt's 30 euro, iirc, but I only spent 21 euro yesterday16:51
JontheEchidna"only", because that is a sizable sum of money for dinner ;)16:52
JontheEchidnas/dinner/supper16:52
nixternali didn't spend much anyways, we always went out and ate for dirt cheap in SF somehow16:52
JontheEchidnawell that's SF for ya :D16:52
nixternaland we had Afghan food that was amazing, Persian food that was awesome, Thai, Chicago Pizza that was actually pretty decent for not being "Chicago-style"16:52
RiddellJontheEchidna: then you can either claim for 21 euro or claim for the full 30 as your concience allows16:53
JontheEchidnajust go out to some chinese joint and get some cat + msg16:53
nixternaland beer, we just went next door and purchased good beer for cheap from the 7-1116:53
nixternalall-in-all, i think i spent more money on taxi fair to and from the airport :)16:53
Riddellthis is Belgium nixternal, good beer has a whole new meaning compared to there16:53
JontheEchidnaheh16:53
nixternalno no, nothing beats american micro brewed beer16:53
RiddellJontheEchidna: you claim food along with train to the hotel too16:54
nixternali have been all over those countries and tried all of their beers16:54
jjessegood beer for nixternal is either PBR or Old Milwaukee16:54
JontheEchidnaaah, ok16:54
nixternalplus, i am not a belgium beer fan...gimme a good ol' stout or an IPA16:54
JontheEchidnathat would come quite close to 30, come to think of it16:54
RiddellJontheEchidna: but you'll need receipt/ticket for travel costs16:54
nixternalhaha, PBR FTW!16:54
JontheEchidnaRiddell: I have the bus tickets16:54
JontheEchidnawell one of them at least....16:54
JontheEchidnaah, good16:55
RiddellJontheEchidna: groovy, take a photo of them and send that with the expense form16:55
RiddellJontheEchidna: do you know what time the busses are to Brussels?16:55
JontheEchidnaI've not checked the schedule. I'll be out of this X.org session in 5 or so minutes16:55
JontheEchidnaLooks like for maverick, X will be a mixture of crazy crack and more-sensible-crack16:56
jjessemmmmm crazy crack16:56
JontheEchidnaRiddell: It is a bank holiday, so nothing will be open17:05
Riddellthat is one worry17:05
JontheEchidnaScottK reminded me of that when I asked him, and I do recall Jorge saying something to that effect17:05
Riddell"13 May Ascension Day"17:06
Riddellso all the restaurants will be busy ascending?17:06
JontheEchidnaI suppose17:07
Riddell17:14 < Stecchino> go to brussels then, pretty sure all restaurants are open there17:14
Riddell17:14 < Stecchino> go to brussels then, pretty sure all restaurants are open there17:15
JontheEchidnaoh, neat17:15
JontheEchidnashtylman and I are sitting in the red Star Trek chairs in the lobby17:16
JontheEchidnaI believe I see agateau talking with a DX person across the room17:16
JontheEchidnaBut Scott said he wouldn't be joining us on account of having stayed up until 4:00 last night17:17
JontheEchidnaRiddell: Looks like the first bus arrives in half an hour17:20
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I will miss mailody :(17:27
Riddellbus to brussels at 19:30 is the decision17:32
nixternaloh wow, any of you hit the Delirium Cafe with everyone else? That is one of my favorite places! I actually have about 20 bottles of Delirium in my fridge right now, so that is a good Belgian beer, and a bit strong, especially the opium version17:43
apacheloggeremit nixternalBroken();18:06
nixternalemit nixternalNeedsBeer();18:09
apacheloggerPyRun_SimpleFile(f, "setupDesktopCouchPairing.py");20:01
apachelogger^^20:01
apacheloggerthat junk is not even worth the include20:01
apacheloggerwell, especially not worth the include, because it casues warnings and overides defaults and all sorts of stuff20:01
apacheloggerpython.h is evil20:02
apacheloggerseriously20:02
nixternalapachelogger: that looks more like a cheap hack than anything else20:07
apachelogger  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/main.py", line 249, in get_access_token20:08
apachelogger    return self.oauth_client.get_access_token()20:08
apacheloggerhm20:08
apacheloggeryou know20:08
nixternalKProcess::startDetached("/usr/bin/python", QStringList() << setupDesktopCouchPairing.py);20:08
nixternalthat is just as hackish without the include :D20:08
apacheloggereither u1's design is incredibly pour or I do something horribly wrong20:08
nixternalforgot the quotes, but you get the idea20:09
apacheloggeroh20:09
apacheloggerOH20:09
apacheloggerOHO20:09
apacheloggerindeed the design is pour20:10
apacheloggercode duplication ftl -.-20:10
nixternalhaha20:10
apacheloggerso you know20:10
apacheloggerthey have this fancy interface com.ubuntuone.Authentication on dbus20:10
apacheloggerwhich does all the auth stuff and then cramps it into the gnomekeyring20:10
apacheloggerand then they query from gnomekeyring rather than the dbus interface20:11
* apachelogger doesnt find that logical20:11
Mamarokapachelogger: try making a list of all things not logical, you will soon give up in desperation...20:12
apacheloggertrue, but that is just wrong20:12
apacheloggeralso the authentication thingy duplicates a lot of code IMHO20:12
apacheloggernixternal: do you happen to know if pythons dbus implementation supports synchronious calls?20:13
nixternalhrmm, i am fairly certain it does seeing as pyqt has direct and queued connection20:15
apacheloggernixternal: lowlevel dbus that is20:18
JontheEchidnaHmm, the singing in the lobby would be enough to drive anybody away21:58
JontheEchidnaOoh, a third bus just came in, perhaps with the stragglers21:59
RiddellI went to get my laptop but since it seems the bar is on holiday and the singing is probably loud I may stay here21:59
RiddellJontheEchidna: you're missing the band's concert tomorrow night21:59
JontheEchidnaaww21:59
JontheEchidnayeah, I'm going back too22:02
crimsunyeah, I'm skipping out to Rotterdam tomorrow evening22:14

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