[00:00] how can make new folder in /opt/ ? I need make new folder in this [00:00] ı am using ubuntu 10.04 [00:01] kerim: Are you sure you need to do what? From a terminal that is "mkdir /opt/newdirname" but why do you need to do that manually? [00:01] "need to do that" [00:01] ı was install xampp [00:02] php server [00:02] andı will some files paste /opt/lampp/htdocs for joomla [00:04] kerim: I'm not sure what you are asking? [00:05] joomla is web [00:05] local web [00:05] i will try joomla in my machine local position [00:06] Fn + F8 no longer works on 10.04. Can someone point me in the direction of a resolution? [00:06] kerim: I see. [00:06] terry_: What is it you expect Fn + F8 to do? [00:07] It used to send screen output to a projector... [00:07] alt+f4 [00:07] fron start the game [00:08] or [00:08] ctrl+w [00:09] terry_: Other than "could be video-driver related", I don't know unfortunately. [00:09] Using nvidia. We've been working on this for two days :o[ [00:10] terry_: Do you know which version? Have you tried a different version? (Older, newer). Are there any potentially related error messages in /var/log/messages? [00:11] adios [00:11] amigos [00:11] foi bom conhecer voces [00:11] mas aqui nao tem piriquito [00:11] t+ [00:11] The driver is 195.36.15. This is the recommended driver. [00:11] letharion: i suppose they have a hidden application which writes into the hidden area of the disk to switch the device. [00:11] letharion: and then it just stays as long as you don't power it off. [00:11] AnnaZ: I've rebooted a couple of times now, and it just work. Thanks :) [00:12] AnnaZ: Ah, ofc, I haven't turned it off yet... [00:13] AnnaZ: Damn, you're right. If I pull it out I'm back to square one. [00:14] letharion: if you can find that app, perhaps you can have it run in wine and switch your device into radio mode, or perhaps someone wrote a replacement. [00:17] terry_, which nvidia card and does it it 2 dvi outputs or any hdmi outs ? [00:18] Yes, the computer has one HDMI output. [00:19] ok, terry_ so the hdmi out is feeding the projector ? [00:19] No. I have it plugged into the VGA port. [00:20] The computer has a HDMI and VGA port. It is a Dell Lattitude E6500. [00:21] so no hdmi input on the projector ...bummer, however nvidia control panel should have the switching options [00:22] There is a hdmi input to the projector. I just don't have the proper cable. [00:22] AnnaZ: Thanks, at least I understand the problem better now, I will consult the oracle (aka google) and see if I can figure something out. :) [00:22] terry_, I'll ask again, which nvidia card , pci or onboard ? [00:23] The card is onboard. the driver is 195.36.15. [00:24] This is a Dell Latitude E6500 notebook. [00:24] nvidia-current [00:24] Do nvidia even produce onboard GPUs? Wouldn't that be an Intel or something instead? [00:26] letharion, yes , I have one on this laptop and wife, has one on her pc, altho i installed apcix 7600gt because it's being used as a media server in the tv room [00:26] letharion: of course. there are NForce mainboard chipsets with geforce 61x0/71x0 and 9500. [00:26] nvidia-current is not an option [00:26] letharion: besides many GeForce GO chipsets have been used alongside Intel system chipsets. [00:26] I'm looking at nvidia-settings [00:27] I was not aware :) [00:27] Thanks for the help, I need to catch some sleep [00:28] ehr 9400 i mean [00:28] M [00:29] I am new to Kunbuntu. Been working with RedHat. I don't know how to answer your question. [00:31] Obviously, I don't know how to use this thing. How do I reply to someone who has replied to me? [00:32] what? [00:33] i can't even see what client you are using. konversation? irssi? [00:34] I am using quassel IRC. [00:34] ah k. [00:34] say why is #kubuntu full of psychos who chat me up in private and want to have sex? [00:34] perhaps i should quit this channel... [00:35] You're special? :-) [00:35] yeah right. [00:37] AnnaZ: Do you have any experience with Dell Latitude E6500? Before upgrading to 10.04, Fn+F8 worked; that is, external monitor support. Now it does not. [00:38] no. how many laptops do you expect me to have -.- [00:38] which was the version you used before? 9.10? [00:38] AnnaZ: Just one; hopefully, the same as me. [00:39] AnnaZ: Yes, 9.10. [00:39] in 9.10 there was this funky service which checked every 10 seconds whether a new monitor was attached. [00:39] unfortunately it led to a lot of problems for some users. [00:39] like display flickering every 10 seconds for some. === sylar_ is now known as Corvinus [00:39] for others videos wouldn't play right because of that. [00:40] terry_: i suppose you can force checking monitors now, but i don't remember how, will have to do something with xrandr. [00:40] AnnaZ: Ok. I'm new to Kunbuntu. Fn + F8 worked a few weeks back. I purchased a projector that does 1920x1080. [00:41] AnnaZ: I will try working with xrandr. Haven't taken that approach. Thanks... [00:41] hi everyone! [00:42] Corvinus: Greetings... [00:43] ^^ hi! well actually I have a doubt... it is just me or the reposories arfe mmm kinda lagged? [00:43] are* [00:44] corvinus, german canonical mirror was very slow a week after release, but by now it's amazingly swift, serves me at 5 megabytes per second. [00:45] other mirrors have been that much less satisfactory. [00:47] wow! that's speedy. Yesteday and up to this noon i was fine, but @13 hrs aprox. the conection was lost. first i thought it was my ISP, but, as u can see my internet conection is working.. [00:48] mmm and how can I change my repos. list? sry. i'm new in linux.... [00:48] terry_, so nvidia settings has no video out switching options ? [00:51] terry_, i recommenf you buy an hdmi cale for your projector input. I recently bought a 5m hdmi cable for $13 canadian, so they aren't expensive. [00:51] BluesKaj: Yes, I am able to get output to the port; however, I cannot get the resolution that is supported by the unit; that is, 1920x1080. [00:52] BluesKaj: Thanks for the advice and help. I will do that. [00:52] yes vga won'r support that res , it's too high [00:52] Corvinus: i assume you're using kde... then KPackageKit, there Settings, Use Software Sources, Kubuntu Software, Download From... [00:52] terry_, only dvi or hdmi supports hi-def. [00:53] BulesKaj: Ok. Thanks for the assistance... [00:54] terry_, np :) [00:54] BluesKaj: i'm not sure what limits that. [00:54] we have used 1600x1200 displays in VGA days. [00:54] ok... testing.... :) [00:54] hei [00:55] how can i undo a sudo cp -r removing folder ? [00:55] and 1920x1080 needs same pixelrate, roughly, and lower horizontal rate. [00:55] i have removed the share folder from usr [00:55] AnnaZ: One of my employees plugged into the unit running 1600x1200 and it worked fine. She is running RH. [00:55] AnnaZ: it seems you're right... :) thank you so much!! ^^ [00:56] AnnaZ: She also is able to use Fn + F8 to send output out the VGA port. [00:56] ionut: if you have removed /usr/share, i suppose you better reinstall all software. [00:57] ionut: but cp doesn't remove anything. and there is no direct undo for things like mv or rm -f on command line. [00:57] vga doesn't do much higher than that , the newer hidef resolutions are upwards of 1080x1920 [00:58] BlueKaj: I have a hdmi cable; however, I have to get an addapter for this proprietery Dell. :o/ [00:59] BluesKaj: my calculations show that a roughly 300mhz ramdac should do 1080x1920 just fine. [00:59] adapter terry_ , what kind of adapter? [00:59] BluesKaj: while new cards are usually equipped with 400mhz or so ramdacs. [00:59] BluesKaj: Once I order the adapter, I see if this damn problem goes away... [00:59] AnnaZ: thx for your help. it seem to you are right. Honours to you, buddy! ^^ [01:00] Aranel: i can read anything , it would be nice of you if you write with a big font. mine is so small, tnx so much, what can i do to undo that , or to recover it? or to download a share folder from someone? [01:00] yw fish -.- [01:00] AnnaZ and BluesKaj: I appreciate you input. I've had it for the day. Started at 04:00 this morning. Thanks again... [01:00] AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHHH WRITE IN A BIG FONT :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD [01:00] AnnaZ, the vga analog cable doesn't work as well as the digital in real life [01:01] ionut: ? :) [01:01] Aranel: yes ? [01:01] BluesKaj: i know, it will be the smearier the longer and thinner the cable is. but the chip will output much higher res just fine. [01:01] ionut: you want me to write with a big font, on IRC? how? [01:01] Aranel: just a little big, like 22 or 24 [01:01] Aranel: he can't read so he confused you with me i suppose. [01:02] AnnaZ: oh ok =) [01:02] AnnaZ, ok theory is fine , but the marketplace determines what one can use ...it's dvi or hdmi for hi-def [01:03] Aranel: ohhhhhh, what i am doing, how can i restore it ? can anyone tell me how can i restore the share folder ? [01:03] iounut: Backup? [01:04] BluesKaj: now... for what relevance is it HERE, i suppose the person asking a question had a technical problem, not a marketing problem. [01:04] come on , can anyone help meee? [01:05] ionut: are you for real? [01:05] well when technical translates to what ppl can actually use it's the marketplace that determines it , AnnaZ [01:05] i think you're trolling us. [01:05] Aranel: yeeeeeeessssss [01:05] my name is not Aranel. [01:05] lol [01:05] i cant read your name [01:05] is to small the font [01:06] can u write bigger [01:06] please [01:06] then make the font larger on your side. [01:06] anyway ...game on here ..bye for now [01:06] it's not msn. there is no such thing as write bigger. [01:06] ok [01:06] then [01:06] unless you want me to SHOUT at you. [01:06] can u tell me [01:06] how can i restore the share folder???? [01:06] ionut: "mkdir share" [01:07] ROFL [01:07] (: [01:07] i can't go on to the termina [01:07] l [01:07] everything dissapeared [01:07] then you must go to sleep and when you wake up try again [01:07] thats what i do [01:07] ionut: where are you typing this from? [01:07] if "everything disappeared"? [01:07] i can se just mozila [01:07] and net beans [01:07] and konversation [01:08] the reason? i don't know why [01:08] is like 3 in the morning here in italy and i am tired [01:08] ionut, well, make yourself a kubuntu install cd, and reinstall tomorrow. [01:08] can i or i cannot solve this problem ? [01:08] after you sleep. [01:08] you can install right atop. [01:08] well, i have ubuntu [01:09] if you have ubuntu cd you get ubuntu. [01:09] but i can't go on ubuntu channel [01:09] if you have kubuntu cd you get kubuntu. [01:09] it's so simple :D [01:09] Go Kunbuntu... [01:09] i have you :D [01:09] Well, it is that simple. But you can have your Ubuntu and Kubuntu, too. [01:09] and also this fond [01:10] And Edubuntu and Xubuntu, if you wish. [01:10] All on the same system, choose which one you want any time. [01:10] mix them all and it will be kunterbuntu! [01:10] .oO(sry if only germans got that one) [01:10] And If you have Kubuntu (yay!) you can run all the Ubuntu apps. And _vice versa_. [01:11] Good night Kunbuntu... [01:11] There's a lot to recommend Xubuntu, especially on older systems. [01:12] ionut: just reinstall from whatever disc you installed last time. make sure not to format (erase everything) while you do. [01:13] uhm is there a command which reinstalls all installed packages anew? [01:13] perhaps that would help him. [01:14] for i in `dpkg --list | grep ^ii.* | cut -d ' ' -f 3`; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install --reinstall $i; done [01:14] Oops, take the apt-get update out of the loop. :-) [01:15] oh he died anyway. [01:22] whats with this Lucid, my system tray keeps stretching out leaving inches of blank space every time I switch to an empty desktop or the desktop where I do have programs running for a long time it does that. [01:23] all fixed never mind - i just took out the weather widget [01:32] trying to rename a file but a foreign character in the filename is preventing me from doing so. what gives??? [01:34] asobi: should not be a problem. it's not windows 98. [01:35] yet it IS a problem [01:35] i am looking right at it [01:35] and you are using dolphin? [01:35] and yes, when did kubuntu become worse than windows 98? [01:35] konqueror [01:36] idk, didn't have a problem in dolphin. if the filesystem encoding was switched at some point, you may have to delete a bit more around this weird character to work. [01:37] and i did have some files whose names were misencoded due to my mistake. [01:38] fails in dolphin [01:40] -.- superweird [01:40] perhaps they wanna have a bug report over there. [01:47] Any budgeting software for KDE or linux that is proven to work? Something like quickbooks? [01:47] this Lucid - my graphics colors on my monitor get brighter and darker - does it do this for you guys? [01:52] olskolirc: something to do with power management maybe? [01:53] ok larsjaa ill take a look at that thanks [01:55] ner0x: i quite like kmymoney but ymmv [01:56] ner0x: you will probably need to use the applications and see if it suits your needs. [01:56] mase_wk: Can tap into your bank account? [01:58] ner0x: i can't say i've tried configuring that, having an app talk directly to the bank doesn't sit well with me. It can import the OFX statements from my bank. [01:58] Ah, well as long as it can work back and forth I'm fine. [01:58] ner0x: like i said, YMMV. It's really something you need to try for yourself as my needs are different to yours [01:59] ymmv? [01:59] your mileage may vary [02:01] there are somethings which kmymoney does which are important to me and things like quickbooks / myob etc can't do, however they may not be important to you and other things which quickbooks can do might be more important for your use case [02:12] what is uid 0? [02:13] never mind i found it [02:21] hola alguien? [02:22] goodmorning [02:25] alguien que me pueda ayudar? === tyler is now known as TLE === TLE is now known as TylerLE [02:34] I'm having an issue installing gnustep-devel. It claims there are unresolved dependencies but doesn't list what they are. Does anyone have a solution to this problem? [02:42] can anyone else reproduce this error? [02:48] TylerLE: how are you trying to install it? [02:52] I've tried both apt-get install gnustep-devel and packagekit [02:53] hallo [02:55] TylerLE: depends on gorm.app but it is not installable [02:55] TylerLE: i prefer synaptic because it gives better error messages and is easier to search. [02:56] ^ [02:59] TylerLE: did that help you? [03:06] Walzmyn: sorry forgot about this window. How do I install gorm if it's not available? furthermore why is there a package in the repo that depends on something else also not in the repo? [03:06] TylerLE: to the first one, I've no idea. Google it up and see if you can get it from somewhere else [03:07] TylerLE: as to broken repos - the maintainers are human just like the rest of us. This got missed. File a bug on launchpad and the maintainer will try to fix it [03:07] Walzmyn: gotcha. I just sort of figure this was automated. Thanks for the tip [03:08] TylerLE: well, alot is automated, but stuff happens [03:08] TylerLE: and it could be that the missing one was in the repo and something was flawed in it and it had to be pulled, wait two days and it may all be fixed. [03:09] <-- is going to bed === administrator is now known as Guest55820 [03:31] ehrm do i have to uninstall global flash player (/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so) so that local one ($HOME/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so) gets picked up correctly? [03:32] the local is newer; i can see both on about:plugins. [03:32] yet i don't see performance enhancements of newer version and when i go check version from within plugin and adobe page, it is apparently still older version in use. [03:36] I just got a new GPS navigator, trying to connect it to kubuntu. when plugged in via USB, I see usb 1-3: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0. how can I see its filesystem? nothing shows in devicemanager or dolphin "places" === superman is now known as Guest30310 === vicky_ is now known as Guest91501 [03:55] how do one stop or restart x in kubuntu 10.04? [04:09] ctrl alt backspace [04:18] Hello, i just upgraded my KUbuntu to the latest one, now i have no X what can be? [04:18] im using Nvidia driver [04:35] Did they change something i am not aware of does -o no longer mean OR in bash? [04:37] in what context? [04:37] tsimpson: a simple if statement [04:38] tsimpson: if [ $umc == "y" -o "yes" ]; then [04:38] it's not a case statement, -o separates the tests [04:38] if [ $umc == "y" -o $umc == "yes" ]; then [04:39] ahh ok [04:39] thanks it been a while since i have played with bash [04:39] is's basically short for if [ ... ] || [ ... ] [04:39] *it's [04:39] I understand now you :) [04:40] explained it to me [04:41] that would explain why my other scripts work that i wrote a long time ago because it was incased in a case statement [04:41] I am still very much a novice at bash it was taught to me about 2.5 years ago and I have touched it since [04:42] it never surprises me how many different ways there are to do the exact same thing [04:42] :) [04:43] ya [04:45] the guy who taugh me how to write bash always made me write in error correction or confrimation there for it a habbit [04:45] it's generally a good habit to have [04:45] so a script that should have take me 5 minutes to write talke a couple of hours :) [04:45] err takes [04:46] All i wanted was a quick script to mount an ISO image :) but it turned into much more :) [04:46] doesn't it always :p [04:46] now it just to see if if something is mounted on /media/fakecd [04:46] wow [04:47] now it checks even [04:47] and ask you if you want to unmount it [04:47] yes I am that bored :) [04:47] last time I tried writing a simple script to mount an ISO, I ended up using DBus and HAL [04:47] that was less than fun [04:48] not sure why I used HAL (to mount a file), but I remember using it [04:48] tsimpson: it took me a while to figure out how to check if the iso something was mount... [04:48] thanks to the power of the tubes I finally figured it out === basile is now known as guillom === arthur is now known as ForgeAus [04:51] and this is why i am crazy... if [ $umc == "y" -o $umc == "yes" -o $umc == "Yes" -o $umc == "Y" ]; then [04:52] I just got a new GPS navigator, trying to connect it to kubuntu. when plugged in via USB, I see usb 1-3: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0. how can I see its filesystem? nothing shows in devicemanager or dolphin "places" [04:53] how do i remove a package? via cli? (i for got the command) [04:53] zus: sudo apt-get remove [04:53] sudo apt-get remove [04:53] zus: apt-get remove [04:53] what darth said [04:54] and iconmefisto :-) [04:54] We have a chorus, singing harmony. [04:54] thanks - what was the purge then? [04:54] Purge cleans out the config files as well. [04:55] ok i tried to install chromium, instead i get an arcade game?! [04:55] with wubi how do I find out how much diskspace I'm using/have free ?? [04:55] it doesn't show up in partition manager as a partition and kdiskfree/kuikdisk doesn't tell me either! [04:55] ForgeAus: I use the command line and use df -h [04:55] zus: you actually wanted to install chromium-browser. [04:55] zus: chromium-browser [04:56] I think I need ext4 VOLUME info rather than disk/parition info... ??? possibly anyway [04:56] yea - [04:56] guess i forgot to add the -browser part [04:56] chromium browser always segfaults on me. [04:56] ahh thx :) used 3.5 of 15 gig [04:56] it funny i instaled ff out of habbit but i use chrome almost exclusivly now [04:56] I've never been able to get it to run. [04:57] darkdelusions: you can use tr to make text lower-case, echo $umc | tr [A-Z] [a-z] [04:57] just in case someone enters "YEs" ;) [04:57] gives host system too that way! awesome [04:57] i need FF cause i've a extention that lets me view my book marks offline its called read it later [04:58] I love that ubuntu works from a loop-mounted filesystem :) [04:58] but i use chromium just as much,... [04:58] tsimpson: can i use that instead of all the $umc == and just have 1 $umc == [04:58] now how do i delete the items form my menu? the arcade game chromium? [04:59] zus: right click on the kmenu and choose menu editor [04:59] if i may repeat the question i've been having:... [04:59] [04:31] ehrm do i have to uninstall global flash player (/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so) so that local one ($HOME/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so) gets picked up correctly? [04:59] [04:32] the local is newer; i can see both on about:plugins. [04:59] [04:32] yet i don't see performance enhancements of newer version and when i go check version from within plugin and adobe page, it is apparently still older version in use. [04:59] AnnaZ: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:00] floodbot say no :) [05:00] darkdelusions: it's a little more difficult to chop off characters, but you can at least reduce it to: if [ $umc == "y" -o $umc == "yes" ]; then [05:00] well then youll have to scroll up dudes and dudettes -.- === jeremy is now known as Guest91085 [05:01] AnnaZ: have you tried disabling the plugin from Tools -> Add-ons -> Plugns ? [05:01] the global one that is [05:02] tsimpson: humm gonna have to look up the syntax for tr [05:02] tsimpson: wasn't aware, thx === Guest91085 is now known as goshdang [05:03] it has lots of uses, but I generally use it as a quick to-lower/to-upper tool [05:03] tsimpson: it only lists the local/new one there. [05:03] tsimpson: but i can still see old/global one used in youtube. [05:04] silly question maybe, but did you restart FF after installing the newer plugin? [05:05] tsimpson: so basically the way you have | tr is automagicly lower cases everything? [05:06] if i understand that right [05:06] yeah, so echo "HELLO WORLD" | tr [A-Z] [a-z] [05:06] gives "hello world" [05:14] <|sysop|> hi [05:15] <|sysop|> how do I upgrade to 10.4 on the command line? [05:15] <|sysop|> is there an howto? [05:16] |sysop|: "sudo do-release-upgrade" [05:16] <|sysop|> I get command not found [05:17] What version are you upgrading from? [05:17] <|sysop|> never mind [05:18] <|sysop|> when I did it in a root shell it said command not found but when I did it with sudo it worked go figure [05:18] how do i install kde 4.4.3? can some one walk me through it? [05:19] <|sysop|> ok I get this. [05:19] <|sysop|> W:Failed to fetch [05:19] <|sysop|> http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/lucid/Release Unable to [05:19] <|sysop|> find expected entry partner/binary-powerpc/Packages in Meta-index [05:19] <|sysop|> file (malformed Release file?) [05:19] |sysop|: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:19] <|sysop|> sorry about the flood [05:21] the other day (lucid release) some one linked me the cli to install KDE4.4.3 i think ir was a ppa. [05:21] ir=it sorry [05:22] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.3 [05:23] |sysop|: you need to remove the partner repo from your sources [05:30] DarthFrog, thanks, is that all i add? to the kpackagekit ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa? [05:30] Yes. [05:32] thanks just making sure i dont botch nothing [05:36] DarthFrog, still cant find it in the kpackagekit kde 4.4.3, [05:36] !kubuntu-restricted extras | zus [05:37] meh! [05:38] zus: Add the repo, do cache refresh and then select updates. [05:38] then do the hokey pokey and turn you self about! [05:39] That part is optional. Advised but optional. :-) [05:39] wow myblueheaven colourscheme still exists! :) ... (I made it) [05:40] how about the restricted extras as well whats that nifty thing people do when people ask about them? [05:41] too old to be in the "get new colour schemes" list by default tho [05:41] darkdelusions, in my town the hockey pokey is illegal to do in public on sunday [05:42] !restricted extras | zus === Bernardo is now known as jbs [05:42] not that either,... [05:42] !restricted [05:42] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [05:43] tsimpson, thanks... [05:45] ok ive been running in to this problem for some time now- "click here to install..." "This link needs to be opened with an application, send to: ( choose an aplication) what do i do here. [05:47] what aplication do i choose when down loading stuff from ubuntu'kubuntu websites. on default? [05:47] zus: FF does not know how to handle apt: [05:47] heyy al [05:47] all [05:47] if you where in gnome it would open up synaptic (or whatever its called now) [05:48] quickie, then ill get back into supporting you lovely ppl, has anyone managed to get a webcam working with Kubuntu 10.04? [05:48] but since FF mostly a gnome app it doesnt know how to handle the apt:// if you want it to work correctly you would have use KDE browser [05:48] darkdelusions, guess that explains it - i've had this pop open since i've moved to kubuntu...what do i do then? what is the aplication to install the link? [05:49] konquror [05:49] zus: well you can go into kpackagekit [05:49] and search for it [05:49] just when i thought i had a good idea of know what im doing [05:49] zus: you want it to open with /usr/bin/apturl-kde [05:49] Saintly: the webcam on my monitor works fine [05:50] errr laptop [05:50] darkdelusions: did it work like that from install? [05:50] Saintly: ya [05:50] which should be pre-installed I think [05:50] ahh. [05:50] Saintly: i just installed cheese and went from there [05:51] darkdelusions: and have you any idea how to check to see if the webcam driver works? [05:51] thanks darkdelusions and tsimpson i got 10 minutes yet on the kde4.4.3 - brb [05:51] Saintly: install cheese or some other webcam app or just use kopete [05:51] what about Kamera? [05:52] Saintly: i never tired it tbh [05:53] darkdelusions: off to the installation of cheese then. be back soon with the verdict mate [05:53] Saintly: you dont really have to if you have kopete installed [05:54] just open KOPete setting and click on video [05:56] darkdelusions: my webcam light is on, but no picture.. [05:57] oops lol [05:57] ... [05:58] alright, what now? [05:58] still no picture [05:58] what kinda webcam? [05:58] hmm good question lol [06:00] let me find out. === cfilby is now known as oshwonder [06:06]