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Karan139Click what?00:00
Karan139Network connections?00:00
starcraftmanKaran139: the icon in the tray.00:00
starcraftmanI've run into a weird error where NM actually turns itself off and can't be re-enabled by tray.00:00
starcraftmanmight be completely unrelated.00:01
Karan139nope thats not it :\00:02
Karan139Thanks though00:02
Karan139Ehh, its alright guys, I'll just go and download 9.1000:02
Karan139It worked with that00:02
Karan139Ill wait00:02
Karan139till 10.04 is a biiit more stable :p00:02
starcraftmanKaran139: wait a sec, we'll look a lil longer.00:02
Karan139OO00:02
Karan139ook00:02
Karan139I don't wana annoy you too much00:02
Karan139But if you willing to find it, ill wait :)00:03
starcraftmanKaran139: if we were annoyed, we wouldn't be dedicating an IRC channel to supporting people. We keep it relaxed and try our best.00:04
starcraftmanKaran139: have you also tried the forums btw?00:04
Karan139Oh okay, and yes I have00:04
* tenach waves00:07
starcraftmantenach: I assume wave indicates know solution? Impress away!00:08
tenachActually, I was just waving 'hi' but now I've been googling for some minutes on the issue.00:12
tenachKaran139 in a terminal, could you enter:00:16
tenach sudo modprobe ipw220000:16
tenachdmesg | grep ipw00:16
tenachand pastebin what it says?00:16
tenachHow are you doing starcraftman ?00:19
starcraftmantenach: I rn't finding much more on this model, not sure.00:21
tenachLikewise.00:22
starcraftmanKaran139: well we don't seem to come up with anything else, those commands give ya anything?00:36
starcraftmanElse ya might just wanna go back to karmic for now as ya said where it was working.00:37
starcraftmanHate driver regressions.00:37
Karan139Hey guys01:07
Karan139Sorry for leaving01:07
Karan139I figured it out after much much much much much searching01:07
Karan139There was a driver for my wireless card, and apparently it doesn't come pre installed with 10.04 or it may, but I didnt get it01:08
Karan139So I had to re download the driver by going to intels site01:08
Karan139and they told me steps on how to do it01:08
Karan139Was confusing but figured it out :p01:09
Karan139Once again, thanks guys. Appreciate all the help, im gona go do anything but this...lol 4 hours trying to figure it out. cya01:09
tenachwb swoody01:13
Buuntuwow haven't been in Ubuntu for a while, but flash works fine now :O!01:18
swoodyBuuntu: welcome back. that's very good to hear :)01:18
Buuntuwell, better at least01:19
Buuntu480p on youtube is still sketchy01:20
Buuntuwhat's up pedro3005?01:52
pedro3005hey Buuntu01:53
pedro3005been a long time :)01:54
Buuntupedro3005, lol yeah01:54
pedro3005Buuntu, how are you?01:54
Buuntupedro3005, good I just have been in windows for a while :P01:55
* pedro3005 kills Buuntu 01:55
Buuntupedro3005, started playing games and watching videos that needed flash - that's the one thing I still hate about ubuntu01:55
Buuntupedro3005, flash is still bad01:56
pedro3005Buuntu, yeah :(01:58
Buuntupedro3005, is there a new version of flash coming out soon?01:58
pedro3005don't know01:59
OlySoftwow, that was quick.02:02
OlySoftis anyone here versed on Ubu 10.4?02:02
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ddecatorwell "versed" is a broad term, haha04:03
ddecatordid you have a question about lucid?04:03
kermiacddecator: he left a couple of hours ago mate ;) You still got joins/parts disabled?04:13
ddecatorkermiac: yes, and i didn't bother to look at the timestamp of his last post =p04:13
kermiachehe04:14
ddecatorit's nice seeing just the conversation, but it does throw me off here and there, haha04:14
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mysteriousdarrenhi ZachK_05:10
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Akosgood morning team07:40
ZachK_hi Akos08:28
Akoshi there ZachK_08:28
ZachK_Akos: what's goin on dude?08:29
Akoswell not much, settling in at work (:08:29
ZachK_Akos: ah08:29
ZachK_Akos: getting ready for bed myself08:29
ZachK_Akos: back in a few...(gotta take out the trash)08:29
Akosbed time for you, work time for me (:08:29
Akossure, tyt08:29
shahanGRUB problem11:11
shahanI made some changed on /boot/grub/grub.cfg file11:11
shahannow my grub has lost ....11:11
shahanusing ubuntu 10.0411:12
shahanhow can u get my GRUB?11:16
shahanI made some changed on /boot/grub/grub.cfg file11:18
shahanhow can u get my GRUB?11:18
shahannow my grub has lost ....11:18
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malevhow to connect to the gobby sessions from UDS?14:07
swoodymalev: have you installed gobby?14:09
swoodyconnect to gobby.ubuntu.com on port 652214:10
malevswoody, thanks!14:10
swoodynp :)14:10
swoodyyou'll need to change your color as well14:10
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javatexanhere is an interesting thought....I wonder if SSD hdd will be usable to developers.  I wonder if in the act of compiling you would shorten the life of your SSD hdd.  Anyone have or know of any information about this?15:51
ddecatorif you're compiling locally then theoretically it probably would. whether it would be a drastic decrease in lifespan would be hard to tell until someone tries16:00
javatexanddecator: yeah, that is what I am thinking16:06
javatexanwho knows right?  sure will sux if you have to do dev and compiling on a usb HDD though, eh?16:07
ddecatoryah, hopefully SSDs improve enough that they are as resilient as HDDs16:08
Appl6SSD's will probably push ramdisks into the limelight.16:13
javatexanAppl6: that would be a good strategy..then you only have to write the "final version" to disk16:18
Appl6javatexan: Yep.  The only issue is that it really exacerbates the "linux crashed and now I lost everything" problem.16:20
Appl6javatexan: So people have to be much more aware of backups and being careful with their data.16:20
javatexanvery true...but OSes will have to adjust while the hardware gets better16:20
Appl6javatexan: Maybe that will inspire devs not to release pre-alpha programs as final releases!  Or not cram random crap like PackageKit into Fedora when it's release -5.16:21
javatexanlol, I doubt it16:22
phillwAppl6: but where will we have the fun we had at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=377 ?16:22
phillw:-D16:23
Appl6phillw: That points to the entire Lucid Lynx testing discussion.  Did you mean to point to a particular thread?16:24
Appl6phillw: I mean if people want to do testing distributions that's great, as long as you don't pass it off as a stable release.16:24
phillwthey got away with 9.10? (he he, only joking - but it did throw up a few 'funnies' with grub2)16:26
Appl6phillw: Ha, well yeah.  But Ubuntu is clearly one of the better behaved distributions as far as stability goes.16:26
phillwand the Lynx has taken a deffinate dislike to Win7 (which has pushed it up in my esteem :-D )16:26
Appl6phillw: I'm coming from Arch Linux, Gentoo, and Fedora, so this is heaven.16:27
phillwAppl6: well, we do get chance to 'play' with the new stuff - Meerkat area already started - I've just made some room for it.16:28
Appl6phillw: That's great; separating testing from stable is the way to go.  The people who like new, unstable stuff can play in testing, the regulars can use stable, and the really bleeding edge people go to another distribution.16:29
phillwAppl6: indeed, there's always debian dev, which is about as close to bleeding edge as i think you get with deb installs.16:30
Appl6phillw: I considered going Debian instead of Ubuntu to get a more stable release, but their releases don't seem much more stable, and devs hate them because their packages are like a million versions behind.16:31
phillwAppl6: in the ubuntu dev channel, they constantly scream about not having the latest from debian, but the release schedule clearly states when the cut off dates are.16:33
phillwbtrfs will most likely not make it for 10.10, but it will be along eventually.16:34
Appl6phillw: When I first read about btrfs I was like "Oh man I'm getting that as soon as it comes out!  I can't wait for that killer performance."16:34
Appl6phillw: And then I read the ridiculous data loss stories when ext4 first came out.  Ha.16:35
phillwAppl6: i was a late adopter of ext4, also. I switched at the alpha release of 10.0416:37
phillwme and my data have a deal - I don't do too much to endaanger it & it tries to stick around :-)16:38
Appl6phillw: Haha.16:44
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BGL-[t]how do i add ubuntu one back to the panel or launch it outside of the panel? i've added the notification area back and it's still not there18:17
lord_koalaHi everyone! I have Ubuntu hardy 8.04 server with command line install. I can't activate my wi-if.. can anyone help me out, please?19:32
LzrdKingiwconfig wlan0 essid <your essid>; dhclient wlan019:34
lord_koalais essid the name of the wireless router?19:34
LzrdKingreplace <your essid> with your network's essid, and wlan0 with your wireles card's actual interface19:34
lord_koalawhen I type ifconfig -a I see wifi and wlan019:34
LzrdKingits the name of the network, by default they are often the name of the router19:35
lord_koalawlan says as encap: ethernet and wifi has unsepc19:35
LzrdKingthen its probably wlan019:35
lord_koalais it the name when I see from my windows pc..19:36
LzrdKingyes19:36
LzrdKingyou could also install wicd, thats got a curses client19:36
lord_koalait returned this=> error for wifi request "Set ESSID" (8B1A):19:38
lord_koalaset failed on wlan0: invalid argument19:38
LzrdKingwhat was your command?19:39
lord_koalaiwconfig wlan0 essid <Conan>19:40
LzrdKingtake out the < and >19:40
lord_koalaoh:)19:40
lord_koalasame result19:40
LzrdKingtry just iwconfig wlan019:41
LzrdKingi wish i had a computer with iwconfig on it here19:41
lord_koalaIEEE 802.11.-DS Mode managed19:42
lord_koalathere are many entries below with all equal to "0"19:42
lord_koalalike RX blah: 019:42
LzrdKingtry iwconfig wlan0 then press tab twice19:43
LzrdKingtry iwconfig wlan0 essid conan19:44
lord_koalaap commit essid freq mode nwid rate sens19:44
lord_koalachannel enc frag key nich power rts txpower19:45
lord_koalalower case conan also failed.. can it be the driver?19:45
lord_koalaI think I installed it but never sure :)19:46
LzrdKingi don't know, i don't think you'd have a wlan0 if it wasn't installed properly19:46
lord_koalaprobably. how can I check the driver just in case19:47
lord_koalayou mentione wicd before.. what is that19:47
lord_koalaif I type only ifconfid it only shows eth0 and lo19:48
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lord_koalaifconfig wlan0 returns encryption key=off19:49
lord_koalacan it be a problem?19:49
LzrdKingwicd is like Network Manager without the gnome deps and a command line interface19:52
LzrdKingmaybe try ifconfig wlan0 up19:52
lord_koalaSIDCSIFFLAGS: invalid argument19:54
LzrdKingwell thats a problem19:54
lord_koalacan it be that my server is missing a file19:54
lord_koalado I need to install something first to activate it19:54
LzrdKingi don't know, on both computers with wireless that i put ubuntu on, the wireless just worked19:56
LzrdKingtry asking in #ubuntu, as it looks like i'm the only one awake in here19:57
lord_koalaI wish my worked as well.. do you think it will work if I plug with ethernet and than try something19:57
lord_koala#ubuntu is crowded.. I could not get a response there :)19:58
LzrdKingit won't help your wireless19:58
LzrdKingtry anyway, people can be amazingly responsive in there, just put as much detail as you can on one line19:58
lord_koalaI wa sthinking perhaps I need to apt-get something19:59
LzrdKingi hope you get a reply20:03
LzrdKingahh there you go20:05
DGMurdockIIIhi20:48
DGMurdockIIIcan i ask a qustion20:48
Phreadont ask to ask20:49
Phreajust ask your question, and be patient20:49
DGMurdockIIIdose ubuntu support tablet pc impute that use pen impute20:49
PhreaI dont know, but hang on, people will read this eventually, and answer it20:50
DGMurdockIIIok20:50
Phreaif you are impatient, you could ask on the forums20:51
phillwDGMurdockIII: there is information on tablet support on the main forum area, as ever google is your freind. Try out '+10.04 +table +make_of_your_machine' in google, or let me know the make / model & I will have a look for you.20:58
phillw/s/+table/+tablet20:59
DGMurdockIIIit a gateway20:59
DGMurdockIIIbut if you hold on a sec i can give you moreinfo on it20:59
DGMurdockIIIgateway designed by Motion Computing M1300 Model: T00221:03
DGMurdockIII(phillw): IS THAT ENOUGH info sorry for caps21:05
phillwDGMurdockIII: hmm, not a lot about on it, as you may expect - over on the swiss site, they had a play with it 2007-2008, I guess that's a good a place as any to start off with http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41754921:09
DGMurdockIIIk21:12
latenite Hi Folks, Why is a simple "ls" via ssh working BUT a "chroot" is not? http://pastie.org/95929821:44
ibuclawlatenite, it probably *is* working, but no shell prompt is being displayed21:51
lateniteibuclaw, any solution to that?21:52
ibuclawtry this again: ssh root@192.168.4.138 "chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash"21:52
ibuclawafter entering your password, wait a moment21:52
ibuclawthen type in: ls21:52
ibuclawor: ls /21:52
ibuclawto see if anything happens21:52
latenitesame errot21:52
latenite*error21:52
ibuclaw^CKilled by signal 2. ?21:53
lateniteI feel like the command after ssh has to RETURN. since chroot is not..it fails21:53
ibuclawI though "^CKilled by signal 2." was yourself killing the process.21:53
ibuclaw*thought21:53
lateniteit was me. since nothing was happening.21:54
ibuclawlatenite, hence why I suggested trying 'ls' after going in. =)21:55
ibuclawyou aren't receiving any error really, just an apparent hang21:55
lateniteyes just a hang21:55
latenitesince chroot is not -finshed- and noting is returned to ssh21:56
lateniteibuclaw, any clues?21:58
ibuclawlatenite, just tried it, and it works just as I described it22:01
ibuclawit *is* working, but no shell prompt is being displayed22:02
lateniteoh TRUE :) funny. since there was no prompt I (ideot) did not even try.22:03
lateniteibuclaw, man thank you :)22:03
lateniteibuclaw, do you have an Idea how to display a prompt?22:03
ibuclawlatenite, probably nothing you can do to work around that...22:04
lateniteibuclaw, ok so I'll live with it.22:06
latenitethank you so much :)22:06
ibuclawI think it is to do with the I/O of the ssh connection22:06
ibuclawsending a command over ssh = more restricted / less featureful22:07
ibuclawbut, am not aware of the specifics - so probably assuming wrong. =)22:07
ibuclawlatenite, though, why not just 'ssh root@host'22:07
ibuclawonce logged in, *then* chroot /mnt/gentoo22:08
ibuclawlatenite, does your server have X installed22:09
ibuclaw?22:09
lateniteno X :)22:09
ibuclawshame... ;)22:09
ibuclawthis works: ssh -X root@host 'xterm -e chroot /mnt'22:09
latenite just 'ssh root@host' would be bad since my script would get interrupted for a passwordprompt22:10
lateniteibuclaw, I will be fine like that .22:10
lateniteibuclaw, one more thing: http://pastie.org/95935822:11
lateniteimagine test.sh is the script that has to be run under chroot.22:12
latenitehow would I do that?22:12
ibuclawlatenite, why not have a script on the server to do this?22:13
ibuclawso all you do is:22:13
ibuclawssh root@192.168.4.138 "do_stuff.sh"22:14
ibuclawand do_stuff.sh has all the commands / things you need to do22:14
lateniteibuclaw, good idea. man I was thinking too twisted22:15
latenitesure that s what I ll do22:15
ibuclawI mean ... the way you are going about things, you might as well have /mnt/gentoo as a Virtual system using, ie: OpenVZ22:15
ibuclawthat way, you could ssh directly into /mnt/gentoo ;)22:16
ibuclawbodhi_zazen, would be the one to talk to if you'd think that is a feasible idea.22:16
lateniteibuclaw, no that s just fine. All I am doing is a lil installscript22:19
bodhi_zazensudo chroot ?22:30
javatexanhey guys, any idea why xdg-email isn't working?  Try this at terminal: xdg-email  'a@co.com' 'b@co.com' 'c@co.com' 'd@co.com'22:31
javatexancan someone verify22:32
ibuclawbodhi_zazen, ooh, there is a sweet patch in 2.6.34 =)22:33
ibuclaw(at least, for LXC users)22:33
bodhi_zazenOh ?22:33
ibuclawCFQ Group Scheduling support22:33
ibuclawit looks like it makes the CFQ scheduler tunable to cgroups22:35
ibuclawrather than one system-wide scheduler22:35
ibuclawasynchronous suspend/resume of devices looks to be cool too22:38
ibuclaw(especially if you think suspend/resume isn't quick enough ;)22:38
ibuclawjavatexan, it seems to be working here (evolution fires up at least)22:58
javatexando you get the to: addresses?22:59
javatexanibuclaw: do you get the to: addresses22:59
javatexanin evolution22:59
lateniteibuclaw, I have changed my script now. but I still get this error. I just can not run "nano" from a chroot env because sometinh is worng with the terminal/promt: http://pastie.org/95943023:00
ibuclawjavatexan, I haven't setup evolution, so I cannot say23:00
javatexanibuclaw:23:00
javatexanibuclaw: no worries, thanks for checking23:01
Phreahe needs to be licked23:01
Phrea*nods*23:01
ibuclawjavatexan, I do get this outputted:23:01
ibuclaw** (evolution:30887): DEBUG: mailto URL command: evolution %s23:01
ibuclaw** (evolution:30887): DEBUG: mailto URL program: evolution23:01
ibuclawbut probably nothing =)23:01
latenitedoes anybody get a prompt with this: "ssh root@127.0.0.1 "chroot / /bin/bash""23:03
ibuclawlatenite, just looking at it, my guess is 'No': and I'd probably be right in assuming.23:03
lateniteibuclaw, ssh -t root@127.0.0.1 "chroot / /bin/bash"23:04
latenite-t did the trick. never heard of that *shame on me*23:05
ibuclawForce pseudo-tty allocation. ...23:06
ibuclawwell that explains everything =)23:06
lateniteibuclaw, now i does. I m so happy that it works now.23:07

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