[00:00] <Karan139> Click what?
[00:00] <Karan139> Network connections?
[00:00] <starcraftman> Karan139: the icon in the tray.
[00:00] <starcraftman> I've run into a weird error where NM actually turns itself off and can't be re-enabled by tray.
[00:01] <starcraftman> might be completely unrelated.
[00:02] <Karan139> nope thats not it :\
[00:02] <Karan139> Thanks though
[00:02] <Karan139> Ehh, its alright guys, I'll just go and download 9.10
[00:02] <Karan139> It worked with that
[00:02] <Karan139> Ill wait
[00:02] <Karan139> till 10.04 is a biiit more stable :p
[00:02] <starcraftman> Karan139: wait a sec, we'll look a lil longer.
[00:02] <Karan139> OO
[00:02] <Karan139> ook
[00:02] <Karan139> I don't wana annoy you too much
[00:03] <Karan139> But if you willing to find it, ill wait :)
[00:04] <starcraftman> Karan139: if we were annoyed, we wouldn't be dedicating an IRC channel to supporting people. We keep it relaxed and try our best.
[00:04] <starcraftman> Karan139: have you also tried the forums btw?
[00:04] <Karan139> Oh okay, and yes I have
[00:07]  * tenach waves
[00:08] <starcraftman> tenach: I assume wave indicates know solution? Impress away!
[00:12] <tenach> Actually, I was just waving 'hi' but now I've been googling for some minutes on the issue.
[00:16] <tenach> Karan139 in a terminal, could you enter:
[00:16] <tenach>  sudo modprobe ipw2200
[00:16] <tenach> dmesg | grep ipw
[00:16] <tenach> and pastebin what it says?
[00:19] <tenach> How are you doing starcraftman ?
[00:21] <starcraftman> tenach: I rn't finding much more on this model, not sure.
[00:22] <tenach> Likewise.
[00:36] <starcraftman> Karan139: well we don't seem to come up with anything else, those commands give ya anything?
[00:37] <starcraftman> Else ya might just wanna go back to karmic for now as ya said where it was working.
[00:37] <starcraftman> Hate driver regressions.
[01:07] <Karan139> Hey guys
[01:07] <Karan139> Sorry for leaving
[01:07] <Karan139> I figured it out after much much much much much searching
[01:08] <Karan139> There was a driver for my wireless card, and apparently it doesn't come pre installed with 10.04 or it may, but I didnt get it
[01:08] <Karan139> So I had to re download the driver by going to intels site
[01:08] <Karan139> and they told me steps on how to do it
[01:09] <Karan139> Was confusing but figured it out :p
[01:09] <Karan139> Once again, thanks guys. Appreciate all the help, im gona go do anything but this...lol 4 hours trying to figure it out. cya
[01:13] <tenach> wb swoody
[01:18] <Buuntu> wow haven't been in Ubuntu for a while, but flash works fine now :O!
[01:18] <swoody> Buuntu: welcome back. that's very good to hear :)
[01:19] <Buuntu> well, better at least
[01:20] <Buuntu> 480p on youtube is still sketchy
[01:52] <Buuntu> what's up pedro3005?
[01:53] <pedro3005> hey Buuntu
[01:54] <pedro3005> been a long time :)
[01:54] <Buuntu> pedro3005, lol yeah
[01:54] <pedro3005> Buuntu, how are you?
[01:55] <Buuntu> pedro3005, good I just have been in windows for a while :P
[01:55]  * pedro3005 kills Buuntu 
[01:55] <Buuntu> pedro3005, started playing games and watching videos that needed flash - that's the one thing I still hate about ubuntu
[01:56] <Buuntu> pedro3005, flash is still bad
[01:58] <pedro3005> Buuntu, yeah :(
[01:58] <Buuntu> pedro3005, is there a new version of flash coming out soon?
[01:59] <pedro3005> don't know
[02:02] <OlySoft> wow, that was quick.
[02:02] <OlySoft> is anyone here versed on Ubu 10.4?
[04:03] <ddecator> well "versed" is a broad term, haha
[04:03] <ddecator> did you have a question about lucid?
[04:13] <kermiac> ddecator: he left a couple of hours ago mate ;) You still got joins/parts disabled?
[04:13] <ddecator> kermiac: yes, and i didn't bother to look at the timestamp of his last post =p
[04:14] <kermiac> hehe
[04:14] <ddecator> it's nice seeing just the conversation, but it does throw me off here and there, haha
[05:10] <mysteriousdarren> hi ZachK_
[07:40] <Akos> good morning team
[08:28] <ZachK_> hi Akos
[08:28] <Akos> hi there ZachK_
[08:29] <ZachK_> Akos: what's goin on dude?
[08:29] <Akos> well not much, settling in at work (:
[08:29] <ZachK_> Akos: ah
[08:29] <ZachK_> Akos: getting ready for bed myself
[08:29] <ZachK_> Akos: back in a few...(gotta take out the trash)
[08:29] <Akos> bed time for you, work time for me (:
[08:29] <Akos> sure, tyt
[11:11] <shahan> GRUB problem
[11:11] <shahan> I made some changed on /boot/grub/grub.cfg file
[11:11] <shahan> now my grub has lost ....
[11:12] <shahan> using ubuntu 10.04
[11:16] <shahan> how can u get my GRUB?
[11:18] <shahan> I made some changed on /boot/grub/grub.cfg file
[11:18] <shahan> how can u get my GRUB?
[11:18] <shahan> now my grub has lost ....
[14:07] <malev> how to connect to the gobby sessions from UDS?
[14:09] <swoody> malev: have you installed gobby?
[14:10] <swoody> connect to gobby.ubuntu.com on port 6522
[14:10] <malev> swoody, thanks!
[14:10] <swoody> np :)
[14:10] <swoody> you'll need to change your color as well
[15:51] <javatexan> here is an interesting thought....I wonder if SSD hdd will be usable to developers.  I wonder if in the act of compiling you would shorten the life of your SSD hdd.  Anyone have or know of any information about this?
[16:00] <ddecator> if you're compiling locally then theoretically it probably would. whether it would be a drastic decrease in lifespan would be hard to tell until someone tries
[16:06] <javatexan> ddecator: yeah, that is what I am thinking
[16:07] <javatexan> who knows right?  sure will sux if you have to do dev and compiling on a usb HDD though, eh?
[16:08] <ddecator> yah, hopefully SSDs improve enough that they are as resilient as HDDs
[16:13] <Appl6> SSD's will probably push ramdisks into the limelight.
[16:18] <javatexan> Appl6: that would be a good strategy..then you only have to write the "final version" to disk
[16:20] <Appl6> javatexan: Yep.  The only issue is that it really exacerbates the "linux crashed and now I lost everything" problem.
[16:20] <Appl6> javatexan: So people have to be much more aware of backups and being careful with their data.
[16:20] <javatexan> very true...but OSes will have to adjust while the hardware gets better
[16:21] <Appl6> javatexan: Maybe that will inspire devs not to release pre-alpha programs as final releases!  Or not cram random crap like PackageKit into Fedora when it's release -5.
[16:22] <javatexan> lol, I doubt it
[16:22] <phillw> Appl6: but where will we have the fun we had at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=377 ?
[16:23] <phillw> :-D
[16:24] <Appl6> phillw: That points to the entire Lucid Lynx testing discussion.  Did you mean to point to a particular thread?
[16:24] <Appl6> phillw: I mean if people want to do testing distributions that's great, as long as you don't pass it off as a stable release.
[16:26] <phillw> they got away with 9.10? (he he, only joking - but it did throw up a few 'funnies' with grub2)
[16:26] <Appl6> phillw: Ha, well yeah.  But Ubuntu is clearly one of the better behaved distributions as far as stability goes.
[16:26] <phillw> and the Lynx has taken a deffinate dislike to Win7 (which has pushed it up in my esteem :-D )
[16:27] <Appl6> phillw: I'm coming from Arch Linux, Gentoo, and Fedora, so this is heaven.
[16:28] <phillw> Appl6: well, we do get chance to 'play' with the new stuff - Meerkat area already started - I've just made some room for it.
[16:29] <Appl6> phillw: That's great; separating testing from stable is the way to go.  The people who like new, unstable stuff can play in testing, the regulars can use stable, and the really bleeding edge people go to another distribution.
[16:30] <phillw> Appl6: indeed, there's always debian dev, which is about as close to bleeding edge as i think you get with deb installs.
[16:31] <Appl6> phillw: I considered going Debian instead of Ubuntu to get a more stable release, but their releases don't seem much more stable, and devs hate them because their packages are like a million versions behind.
[16:33] <phillw> Appl6: in the ubuntu dev channel, they constantly scream about not having the latest from debian, but the release schedule clearly states when the cut off dates are.
[16:34] <phillw> btrfs will most likely not make it for 10.10, but it will be along eventually.
[16:34] <Appl6> phillw: When I first read about btrfs I was like "Oh man I'm getting that as soon as it comes out!  I can't wait for that killer performance."
[16:35] <Appl6> phillw: And then I read the ridiculous data loss stories when ext4 first came out.  Ha.
[16:37] <phillw> Appl6: i was a late adopter of ext4, also. I switched at the alpha release of 10.04
[16:38] <phillw> me and my data have a deal - I don't do too much to endaanger it & it tries to stick around :-)
[16:44] <Appl6> phillw: Haha.
[18:17] <BGL-[t]> how do i add ubuntu one back to the panel or launch it outside of the panel? i've added the notification area back and it's still not there
[19:32] <lord_koala> Hi everyone! I have Ubuntu hardy 8.04 server with command line install. I can't activate my wi-if.. can anyone help me out, please?
[19:34] <LzrdKing> iwconfig wlan0 essid <your essid>; dhclient wlan0
[19:34] <lord_koala> is essid the name of the wireless router?
[19:34] <LzrdKing> replace <your essid> with your network's essid, and wlan0 with your wireles card's actual interface
[19:34] <lord_koala> when I type ifconfig -a I see wifi and wlan0
[19:35] <LzrdKing> its the name of the network, by default they are often the name of the router
[19:35] <lord_koala> wlan says as encap: ethernet and wifi has unsepc
[19:35] <LzrdKing> then its probably wlan0
[19:36] <lord_koala> is it the name when I see from my windows pc..
[19:36] <LzrdKing> yes
[19:36] <LzrdKing> you could also install wicd, thats got a curses client
[19:38] <lord_koala> it returned this=> error for wifi request "Set ESSID" (8B1A):
[19:38] <lord_koala> set failed on wlan0: invalid argument
[19:39] <LzrdKing> what was your command?
[19:40] <lord_koala> iwconfig wlan0 essid <Conan>
[19:40] <LzrdKing> take out the < and >
[19:40] <lord_koala> oh:)
[19:40] <lord_koala> same result
[19:41] <LzrdKing> try just iwconfig wlan0
[19:41] <LzrdKing> i wish i had a computer with iwconfig on it here
[19:42] <lord_koala> IEEE 802.11.-DS Mode managed
[19:42] <lord_koala> there are many entries below with all equal to "0"
[19:42] <lord_koala> like RX blah: 0
[19:43] <LzrdKing> try iwconfig wlan0 then press tab twice
[19:44] <LzrdKing> try iwconfig wlan0 essid conan
[19:44] <lord_koala> ap commit essid freq mode nwid rate sens
[19:45] <lord_koala> channel enc frag key nich power rts txpower
[19:45] <lord_koala> lower case conan also failed.. can it be the driver?
[19:46] <lord_koala> I think I installed it but never sure :)
[19:46] <LzrdKing> i don't know, i don't think you'd have a wlan0 if it wasn't installed properly
[19:47] <lord_koala> probably. how can I check the driver just in case
[19:47] <lord_koala> you mentione wicd before.. what is that
[19:48] <lord_koala> if I type only ifconfid it only shows eth0 and lo
[19:49] <lord_koala> ifconfig wlan0 returns encryption key=off
[19:49] <lord_koala> can it be a problem?
[19:52] <LzrdKing> wicd is like Network Manager without the gnome deps and a command line interface
[19:52] <LzrdKing> maybe try ifconfig wlan0 up
[19:54] <lord_koala> SIDCSIFFLAGS: invalid argument
[19:54] <LzrdKing> well thats a problem
[19:54] <lord_koala> can it be that my server is missing a file
[19:54] <lord_koala> do I need to install something first to activate it
[19:56] <LzrdKing> i don't know, on both computers with wireless that i put ubuntu on, the wireless just worked
[19:57] <LzrdKing> try asking in #ubuntu, as it looks like i'm the only one awake in here
[19:57] <lord_koala> I wish my worked as well.. do you think it will work if I plug with ethernet and than try something
[19:58] <lord_koala> #ubuntu is crowded.. I could not get a response there :)
[19:58] <LzrdKing> it won't help your wireless
[19:58] <LzrdKing> try anyway, people can be amazingly responsive in there, just put as much detail as you can on one line
[19:59] <lord_koala> I wa sthinking perhaps I need to apt-get something
[20:03] <LzrdKing> i hope you get a reply
[20:05] <LzrdKing> ahh there you go
[20:48] <DGMurdockIII> hi
[20:48] <DGMurdockIII> can i ask a qustion
[20:49] <Phrea> dont ask to ask
[20:49] <Phrea> just ask your question, and be patient
[20:49] <DGMurdockIII> dose ubuntu support tablet pc impute that use pen impute
[20:50] <Phrea> I dont know, but hang on, people will read this eventually, and answer it
[20:50] <DGMurdockIII> ok
[20:51] <Phrea> if you are impatient, you could ask on the forums
[20:58] <phillw> DGMurdockIII: there is information on tablet support on the main forum area, as ever google is your freind. Try out '+10.04 +table +make_of_your_machine' in google, or let me know the make / model & I will have a look for you.
[20:59] <phillw> /s/+table/+tablet
[20:59] <DGMurdockIII> it a gateway
[20:59] <DGMurdockIII> but if you hold on a sec i can give you moreinfo on it
[21:03] <DGMurdockIII> gateway designed by Motion Computing M1300 Model: T002
[21:05] <DGMurdockIII> (phillw): IS THAT ENOUGH info sorry for caps
[21:09] <phillw> DGMurdockIII: hmm, not a lot about on it, as you may expect - over on the swiss site, they had a play with it 2007-2008, I guess that's a good a place as any to start off with http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417549
[21:12] <DGMurdockIII> k
[21:44] <latenite>  Hi Folks, Why is a simple "ls" via ssh working BUT a "chroot" is not? http://pastie.org/959298
[21:51] <ibuclaw> latenite, it probably *is* working, but no shell prompt is being displayed
[21:52] <latenite> ibuclaw, any solution to that?
[21:52] <ibuclaw> try this again: ssh root@192.168.4.138 "chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash"
[21:52] <ibuclaw> after entering your password, wait a moment
[21:52] <ibuclaw> then type in: ls
[21:52] <ibuclaw> or: ls /
[21:52] <ibuclaw> to see if anything happens
[21:52] <latenite> same errot
[21:52] <latenite> *error
[21:53] <ibuclaw> ^CKilled by signal 2. ?
[21:53] <latenite> I feel like the command after ssh has to RETURN. since chroot is not..it fails
[21:53] <ibuclaw> I though "^CKilled by signal 2." was yourself killing the process.
[21:53] <ibuclaw> *thought
[21:54] <latenite> it was me. since nothing was happening.
[21:55] <ibuclaw> latenite, hence why I suggested trying 'ls' after going in. =)
[21:55] <ibuclaw> you aren't receiving any error really, just an apparent hang
[21:55] <latenite> yes just a hang
[21:56] <latenite> since chroot is not -finshed- and noting is returned to ssh
[21:58] <latenite> ibuclaw, any clues?
[22:01] <ibuclaw> latenite, just tried it, and it works just as I described it
[22:02] <ibuclaw> it *is* working, but no shell prompt is being displayed
[22:03] <latenite> oh TRUE :) funny. since there was no prompt I (ideot) did not even try.
[22:03] <latenite> ibuclaw, man thank you :)
[22:03] <latenite> ibuclaw, do you have an Idea how to display a prompt?
[22:04] <ibuclaw> latenite, probably nothing you can do to work around that...
[22:06] <latenite> ibuclaw, ok so I'll live with it.
[22:06] <latenite> thank you so much :)
[22:06] <ibuclaw> I think it is to do with the I/O of the ssh connection
[22:07] <ibuclaw> sending a command over ssh = more restricted / less featureful
[22:07] <ibuclaw> but, am not aware of the specifics - so probably assuming wrong. =)
[22:07] <ibuclaw> latenite, though, why not just 'ssh root@host'
[22:08] <ibuclaw> once logged in, *then* chroot /mnt/gentoo
[22:09] <ibuclaw> latenite, does your server have X installed
[22:09] <ibuclaw> ?
[22:09] <latenite> no X :)
[22:09] <ibuclaw> shame... ;)
[22:09] <ibuclaw> this works: ssh -X root@host 'xterm -e chroot /mnt'
[22:10] <latenite>  just 'ssh root@host' would be bad since my script would get interrupted for a passwordprompt
[22:10] <latenite> ibuclaw, I will be fine like that .
[22:11] <latenite> ibuclaw, one more thing: http://pastie.org/959358
[22:12] <latenite> imagine test.sh is the script that has to be run under chroot.
[22:12] <latenite> how would I do that?
[22:13] <ibuclaw> latenite, why not have a script on the server to do this?
[22:13] <ibuclaw> so all you do is:
[22:14] <ibuclaw> ssh root@192.168.4.138 "do_stuff.sh"
[22:14] <ibuclaw> and do_stuff.sh has all the commands / things you need to do
[22:15] <latenite> ibuclaw, good idea. man I was thinking too twisted
[22:15] <latenite> sure that s what I ll do
[22:15] <ibuclaw> I mean ... the way you are going about things, you might as well have /mnt/gentoo as a Virtual system using, ie: OpenVZ
[22:16] <ibuclaw> that way, you could ssh directly into /mnt/gentoo ;)
[22:16] <ibuclaw> bodhi_zazen, would be the one to talk to if you'd think that is a feasible idea.
[22:19] <latenite> ibuclaw, no that s just fine. All I am doing is a lil installscript
[22:30] <bodhi_zazen> sudo chroot ?
[22:31] <javatexan> hey guys, any idea why xdg-email isn't working?  Try this at terminal: xdg-email  'a@co.com' 'b@co.com' 'c@co.com' 'd@co.com'
[22:32] <javatexan> can someone verify
[22:33] <ibuclaw> bodhi_zazen, ooh, there is a sweet patch in 2.6.34 =)
[22:33] <ibuclaw> (at least, for LXC users)
[22:33] <bodhi_zazen> Oh ?
[22:33] <ibuclaw> CFQ Group Scheduling support
[22:35] <ibuclaw> it looks like it makes the CFQ scheduler tunable to cgroups
[22:35] <ibuclaw> rather than one system-wide scheduler
[22:38] <ibuclaw> asynchronous suspend/resume of devices looks to be cool too
[22:38] <ibuclaw> (especially if you think suspend/resume isn't quick enough ;)
[22:58] <ibuclaw> javatexan, it seems to be working here (evolution fires up at least)
[22:59] <javatexan> do you get the to: addresses?
[22:59] <javatexan> ibuclaw: do you get the to: addresses
[22:59] <javatexan> in evolution
[23:00] <latenite> ibuclaw, I have changed my script now. but I still get this error. I just can not run "nano" from a chroot env because sometinh is worng with the terminal/promt: http://pastie.org/959430
[23:00] <ibuclaw> javatexan, I haven't setup evolution, so I cannot say
[23:00] <javatexan> ibuclaw:
[23:01] <javatexan> ibuclaw: no worries, thanks for checking
[23:01] <Phrea> he needs to be licked
[23:01] <Phrea> *nods*
[23:01] <ibuclaw> javatexan, I do get this outputted:
[23:01] <ibuclaw> ** (evolution:30887): DEBUG: mailto URL command: evolution %s
[23:01] <ibuclaw> ** (evolution:30887): DEBUG: mailto URL program: evolution
[23:01] <ibuclaw> but probably nothing =)
[23:03] <latenite> does anybody get a prompt with this: "ssh root@127.0.0.1 "chroot / /bin/bash""
[23:03] <ibuclaw> latenite, just looking at it, my guess is 'No': and I'd probably be right in assuming.
[23:04] <latenite> ibuclaw, ssh -t root@127.0.0.1 "chroot / /bin/bash"
[23:05] <latenite> -t did the trick. never heard of that *shame on me*
[23:06] <ibuclaw> Force pseudo-tty allocation. ...
[23:06] <ibuclaw> well that explains everything =)
[23:07] <latenite> ibuclaw, now i does. I m so happy that it works now.