[00:52] <LinuxGuy2009> What would be a proper response to a bug report that is questionable about if its an actual bug or an intentional program feature?
[00:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Just state that as a responce and just leave it?
[01:00] <LinuxGuy2009> Bug #579682 is questionable if its a feature request or if the 'bug' observed was actually an intentional programmed action. Other than stating that as the response I don't know what else to do with it. Otherwise the report is just gonna sit there probably with no solution.
[01:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 579682 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Software Center scrolls after package removal (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/579682
[01:11] <LinuxGuy2009> Ok maybe I wont help triage bugs.
[01:15] <mrand> LinuxGuy2009: sorry... this week is kinda bad...
[01:15] <mrand> a number of people are at UDS.
[01:16] <LinuxGuy2009> Oh I see. I understand
[09:04] <pedro_> folks, we're having the discussion of the Bugsquad Roadmap now at UDS in case you want to join us
[09:04] <pedro_> join #ubuntu-uds-jatoba for make comments
[09:06] <BUGabundo_remote> m@rnlng cowboys&girls
[09:06] <pedro_> vish, qense bugsquad roadmap session at jatoba
[09:07] <vish> pedro_: right now?
[09:07] <ddecator> vish: yup
[09:07]  * vish  in a theme session now  :(
[09:08] <qense> pedro_: I really wanted to attend, but I'm in the AppInd session now and I am necessary here.
[09:08] <qense> pedro_: sorry
[09:08] <qense> I will propose to get rid of the distinction between Adopt-a-Package and Adopt-an-Upstream and integrate the efforts during the AdoptUpstream session that has yet to be scheduled.
[09:09] <pedro_> qense, ok. I've talked to marjo about it in the roundtable it will be scheduled
[09:10] <qense> pedro_: What will be?
[09:14] <pedro_> qense, adopt an upstream, i'll let you know as soon as i see it scheduled
[09:16] <qense> pedro_: Thanks
[09:57] <ddecator> For anyone interested, there will be a meeting about BugSquad Mentorship at 1300 UTC in one of the UDS channels (room unknown at this time)
[10:09] <pedro_> Folks, the Mentoring Program Review session is at 1500 at the Ginko room
[10:09] <pedro_> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-m/2010-05-13/
[10:09] <ddecator> pedro_: ha, i was just going to put that up
[10:09] <pedro_> hggdh, the session was scheduled for 1500  at the Ginko room
[10:09] <hggdh> pedro_: thank you
[10:10] <ddecator> pedro_: i'll be there (even though it's at the same time as the discussion for default applications in maverick =\)
[10:11] <ddecator> BTW, 1500 is CEST, so 1300 UTC is the time of the meeting
[10:13] <bdmurray> pedro_: updated bugsquad roadmap gobby document
[10:14] <pedro_> bdmurray, you rock!
[10:15] <ddecator> thanks bdmurray for adding that stuff
[11:03] <Tyriel> Hi, to whom may I report the bugs?
[11:03] <BUGabundo_remote> Tyriel: usually to a bug tracker
[11:03] <BUGabundo_remote> in our case, launchpad
[11:04] <BUGabundo_remote> !lanchpad > Tyriel
[11:04] <ubot4> Factoid 'lanchpad' not found
[11:04] <yofel> !bugs
[11:04] <ubot4> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[11:04] <BUGabundo_remote> !launchpad > Tyriel
[11:04] <ubot4> Tyriel, please see my private message
[11:04] <BUGabundo_remote> yofel: that one was next!!!
[11:04] <BUGabundo_remote> :)
[11:04] <yofel> heh
[11:04] <yofel> Tyriel: what's the problem?
[11:04] <Tyriel> The Calendar has 8 days per week
[11:04] <Tyriel> hahahahaha
[11:04] <Tyriel> this is really something serious
[11:05] <Tyriel> lol
[11:05] <yofel> wth?
[11:05] <BUGabundo_remote> LOL
[11:05] <yofel> Tyriel: which calender? (which application?)
[11:05] <BUGabundo_remote> what he said
[11:05] <Tyriel> The calendar if you click on the icon to check the calendar on the desktop you will see it 8 days weeek
[11:07] <Tyriel> At least here on my version 10.04LTS is like this
[11:07] <yofel> Tyriel: using gnome?
[11:07] <Tyriel> I don know others, if you guys want I can send an ss
[11:07] <Tyriel> yes gnome
[11:07] <yofel> BUGabundo_remote: can you reproduce that?
[11:07] <yofel> Tyriel: sure (especially as I don't use gnome myself)
[11:08] <Tyriel> did you receive the dcc?
[11:08] <yofel> Tyriel: I'm using quassel which doesn't support dcc, please use imagebin.ca
[11:08] <Tyriel> ok
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[11:10] <Tyriel> There is also another bug fort the wireless tool, sometimes when i restart the icon disappear
[11:10] <yofel> Tyriel: I only see 7 days there
[11:10] <yofel> Sun - Sat
[11:11] <Tyriel> You see the days 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 are off the week days
[11:11] <Tyriel> so it causes a wrong
[11:11] <yofel> yes, as that's the, '17th... week this year'
[11:11] <Tyriel> haaaaaaaaaa
[11:11] <Tyriel> lol
[11:11] <Tyriel> i'm nooober
[11:11] <Tyriel> :D
[11:11] <yofel> so no bug ;)
[11:11] <Tyriel> tks god :P
[11:12] <Tyriel> but still the wireless thingi s a pitty
[11:12] <Tyriel> haha
[11:12] <Tyriel> another question, Do you have any knowledge of when the Ubuntu One contacts will start working again? I have some many contacts there...
[11:13] <yofel> I'm not sure where the NM icon belongs to, either network-manager-gnome or some indicator package
[11:13] <Tyriel> is the network-manager-gnome
[11:13] <yofel> Tyriel: #ubuntuone might be able to help you more then
[11:13] <BUGabundo_remote> yofel: Tyriel: looks fine for me in maverick
[11:14] <yofel> BUGabundo_remote: he mistook the week numbers for another weekday :P
[11:14] <Tyriel> yes i'm sorry
[11:14] <Tyriel> it was the weeks of the year
[11:14] <Tyriel> i though it was days
[11:14] <Tyriel> :P
[11:14] <BUGabundo_remote> I saw
[13:17] <b_> hello
[13:17] <b_> my ubuntu is starting many times with no image on display
[13:18] <b_> i have a intel video card on a laptop and a 10.4 version of ubuntu
[13:19] <b_> anybody some help please
[13:20] <astraljava> b_: #ubuntu is the official support channel, this is for bug triaging and other bug work.
[13:21] <b_> where should i ask for help ?
[13:22] <astraljava> b_: On IRC, /join #ubuntu, then there are ubuntuforums.org, and you can also browse already reported bugs on https://launchpad.net
[13:22] <astraljava> b_: Try also ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[13:23] <b_> thank you
[13:23] <astraljava> b_: No problem, happy to help. :)
[13:57] <ddecator> For those interested, the BugSquad Mentoring Program Review UDS session will be starting in 5-10 minutes in #ubuntu-uds-ginko
[14:10] <pedro_> guys we're having the mentoring program discussion at #ubuntu-uds-ginko
[14:10] <pedro_> in case you want to join us
[14:31] <optix> I believe bug #578834 should be updated to wishlist, can someone here agree and change it?
[14:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 578834 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "Sort languages by display name, not locale code (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/578834
[15:49] <LinuxGuy2009> When a launchpad bug is looked at and I ask for more info or for the reporter to post back to answer a question or whatever, is it proper to set the status to incomplete? Then after the 60 days expire without a response, then it would be considered invalid? This correct? I'm trying to learn proper procedure.
[15:55] <ddecator> set to incomplete yet. then we usually send them a comment if they don't respond in 4 weeks. if no response for two more weeks then it's invalid
[15:55] <ddecator> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Incomplete%20bugs%20without%20a%20response%20from%20submitter
[16:08] <LinuxGuy2009> cool
[16:09] <ddecator> s/yet/yes
[16:14] <LinuxGuy2009> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/579682 This appears to be an intentional programmed occurance and is basically agreed upon by myself and another person there. Would it be proper to set it to invalid yet or let it sit for a while?
[16:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 579682 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Software Center scrolls after package removal (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[16:16] <LinuxGuy2009> Seems more a wishlist type of thing than a bug.
[16:16] <ddecator> oh i've had it do that...it's annoying, haha
[16:17] <ddecator> if you're unsure whether it's supposed to do that, it'd be good to contact one of the developers to see what the intended behavior is
[18:26] <mrand> optix: done
[18:38] <optix> mrand: thank you
[19:33] <resno> ive got a bug i would to report. but im i dont think i can repeat it with a level of certainty.
[19:33] <resno> i would like*
[19:43] <astraljava> resno: Which distribution?
[19:44] <resno> astraljava: ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop 9.10 and also 10.04
[19:44] <astraljava> resno: Okay, can't help you there, don't have either of those.
[19:45] <resno> astraljava: its the same machine, that has had a recurring problem
[19:45] <resno> kacpi-notify runs up to 100% if i do something thats heavy
[19:46] <astraljava> resno: If you don't get attention here, I suggest you post steps to reproduce somewhere, like ubuntuforums.org or ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com, and wait for confirmation from other users. Then you can decide whether to file a bug or not.
[19:47] <resno> ok, i wont worry about it then.
[19:48] <astraljava> resno: Does that happen often, or repeatedly?
[19:50] <resno> astraljava: only when im doing something heavy... not often anymore. its my server at the moment. if i pull up webmin, it will happen.
[19:50] <resno> but when i used it as a desktop, it happended more then it should
[19:58] <resno> at that time, i didnt know anything about submitting bugs
[19:59] <astraljava> resno: There are a couple of similar bugs filed in LP, but they don't really show any foolproof solutions. I don't know how to help you, sorry. Hope you get someone assisting you in this problem.
[20:00] <resno> astraljava: thanks for your assitance
[20:01] <jf1976> is there anyway i can help with rtl development as a non coder ?
[20:15] <psusi> how do you file a bug report to request a merge from upstream again?
[20:31] <mrand> psusi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess In short, if the package isn't automatically synced, you can create a launchpad ticket for that package and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors. Example preferred title format (i.e., include the upstream version number): Sync xmltv 0.5.56+cvs20100328-1 (universe) from Debian testing (main)
[20:31] <psusi> ahh there we go...
[20:31] <micahg> mrand: psusi: it's preferable to use the requestsync tool
[20:32] <psusi> I'm actually trying to convert an existing bug to the proper format
[20:32] <micahg> psusi: ah
[20:33] <psusi> also it seems that debian unstable still hasn't updated to the latest upstream version from a few weeks ago either, which fixes a bug in the version currently in testing that this bug has requested we update to for the new lvm --merge feature
[20:34] <psusi> ohh wait, that's a sync.. we have ubuntu changes that need merged
[20:34] <mrand> psusi: if the debian package is actively maintained, I'd push for them to update first.  Keep diff's as small as possible.
[20:35] <psusi> true
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[20:45] <David-T> er, oops
[22:33] <trinikrono> hey any mentors
[22:34] <trinikrono> if a guy has a bug 379723, and a packages has the wrong version in the universe, how do we get it updated to the new one, a request to package?
[22:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 379723 in partitionmanager (Ubuntu Jaunty) (and 1 other project) "partitionmanager 1.0.0~beta1a doesn't work (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379723
[22:39] <astraljava> trinikrono: Like Colin said in the bug comments, it requires an SRU. File such a bug, and if you can prepare the package for such an update. If not, try to get someone else doing it.
[22:43] <trinikrono> so what should we do with the bug to make it happen?
[22:47] <astraljava> trinikrono: Read up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[22:49] <trinikrono> wow, i think i will go work on another package lol
[22:50] <thekorn> trinikrono, do you know which version of the package fixes this bug?
[22:52] <trinikrono> well its beta1 in the repo, but from beta apparently works for the guy
[22:53] <trinikrono> the newer ubuntu releases use the stable versions
[22:54] <thekorn> IMHO, this bug is not worth the hard work of a SRU
[22:55] <trinikrono> yea i thought so
[22:55] <trinikrono> :\
[22:56] <trinikrono> okie next one, Bug #579703   what do i need to do again to get this triaged
[22:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 579703 in gparted (Ubuntu) "gparted wrongly reports partition "mounted" when uuid and label are duplicates (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/579703
[23:03] <thekorn> trinikrono, how can a uuid of two partitions be the same?
[23:10] <trinikrono> well thats why i want some ideas as what to ask the reporter