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robert_ancell | seb128, do you know where the photo experience blueprint is? what was that session called? | 08:10 |
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seb128 | robert_ancell, desktop-maverick-photo-experience | 08:10 |
robert_ancell | seb128, yeah, doesn't exist | 08:12 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-simple-image-management | 08:12 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, desktop-maverick-photo-experience on gobby | 08:12 |
robert_ancell | seb128, it's desktop-maverick-simple-image-management | 08:13 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, what I said before? | 08:13 |
robert_ancell | oh, missed that one | 08:14 |
robert_ancell | :) | 08:14 |
desrt | seb128: in session? | 08:18 |
seb128 | desrt, yes, you? | 08:18 |
desrt | hackingbof :) | 08:18 |
seb128 | nice | 08:19 |
desrt | ...not much of a bof, to be honest | 08:19 |
desrt | anyway. was wondering: are you going to do backported glib releases to lucid? | 08:19 |
desrt | in some PPA or something | 08:19 |
seb128 | I didn't plan to no but if that's useful we could discuss it | 08:19 |
desrt | ok. i'll see you some time if you're free | 08:20 |
chrisccoulson | bryceh - i've been looking at bug 546578 this morning, and i think i know what happens on the gnome-screensaver side now | 08:38 |
chrisccoulson | the VT switching is happening before the fade has completed | 08:39 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 546578 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati "[RS480] black screen after a few user switches" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/546578 | 08:39 |
chrisccoulson | and gnome-screensaver continues with the SetCrtcGamma calls, which complete successfully but have no effect on the gamma on the inactive VT | 08:39 |
chrisccoulson | so, | 08:40 |
chrisccoulson | we need some way for gnome-screensaver to signal that it has finished fading :) | 08:40 |
chrisccoulson | or revert the fading mechanism to what we had in karmic, which didn't seem to have this problem | 08:40 |
chrisccoulson | ^^pitti - what do you think is more appropriate for a SRU? :) | 08:43 |
pitti | Nafai: alias kvmtest='kvm -m 768 -drive if=virtio,index=0,boot=on,file=$HOME/download/kvm-images/test.img' | 08:49 |
Nafai | pitti: thanks muchly | 09:01 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: ah, wb | 09:07 |
chrisccoulson | hey pitti, how are you today? | 09:07 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: I just responded/subscribed to bug 546578 | 09:07 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 546578 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati "[RS480] black screen after a few user switches" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/546578 | 09:07 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: I'm great, thanks! | 09:07 |
chrisccoulson | thanks | 09:07 |
chrisccoulson | pitti - i've not seen the issue with suspend, but on user switching | 09:09 |
chrisccoulson | i'm not sure if it's the same issue on sleep | 09:09 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: ah, sorry; but same reasoning with waiting until VT change, probably? | 09:09 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: or just disable the fading :) | 09:09 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, possibly | 09:09 |
chrisccoulson | pitti - lucid uses a new mechanism for fading (xrandr) | 09:10 |
pitti | ah, and karmic just repainted the screen? | 09:10 |
chrisccoulson | i was just wondering if we could revert back to the old method (which is still used as a fallback for devices which don't support xrandr) | 09:10 |
pitti | i. e. it didn't actually finish until the vt change? | 09:10 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: it seems reasonable, too | 09:11 |
chrisccoulson | pitti - i think the old fading method still worked on the inactive VT, but i'd need to verify that just to make sure | 09:11 |
* pitti -> back to session | 09:11 | |
chrisccoulson | but it would be an easy change to revert the fading mechanism to what was used before | 09:11 |
chrisccoulson | thanks :) | 09:11 |
bryceh | chrisccoulson, cool, we should get together with RAOF to discuss this | 09:24 |
chrisccoulson | bryceh - yeah, can do. i will try and work out whether the old xf86vidmode gamma fade had this issue, because we only noticed it when gnome-screensaver moved to xrandr fade | 09:25 |
chrisccoulson | so hopefully reverting that will just fix it for now :) | 09:25 |
bryceh | yeah | 09:25 |
bryceh | sounds sane for an sru, hopefully whatever the xrandr issue can be solved for MM | 09:26 |
bryceh | RAOF and I are in the kernel version session | 09:26 |
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huats | morning ! | 11:00 |
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chrisccoulson | pitti - i can recreate the ATA errors every time i connect the power cord | 14:07 |
chrisccoulson | and i still get them without acpi-support | 14:07 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: blergh | 14:22 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: can you rename /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules to .disabled and check again? | 14:23 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: or try to chmod 0 /usr/sbin/pm-powersave | 14:23 |
chrisccoulson | it seems to be pm-powersave which does itr | 14:25 |
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chrisccoulson | pitti - it is specifically /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/powersave-policy-sata-link-power which triggers my ATA errors | 15:37 |
chrisccoulson | which has your name in it ;) | 15:37 |
crimsun | chrisccoulson: that begins to sound like a hw/linux issue, not a pm-utils or pm-utils-powersave-policy thing | 15:38 |
chrisccoulson | crimsun - yeah, possibly | 15:38 |
crimsun | i.e., we probably need to quirk your hw | 15:38 |
chrisccoulson | but at least i have a trigger now :) | 15:39 |
chrisccoulson | `echo "max_performance" | sudo tee /sys/class/scsi_host/host1/link_power_management_policy` is what is triggering it | 15:42 |
chrisccoulson | so, yeah, sounds very much like a kernel issue | 15:42 |
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cjohnston | kenvandine: ping | 16:42 |
kenvandine | hey cjohnston | 16:45 |
cjohnston | Hey.. Can we meet? | 16:45 |
kenvandine | sure, got a bug? :) | 16:45 |
cjohnston | yes | 16:45 |
kenvandine | ok, where are you? | 16:45 |
cjohnston | palissandre | 16:46 |
kenvandine | ok, session almost done here | 16:47 |
kenvandine | want to go meet by the break area in ~10m? | 16:48 |
cjohnston | okie.. thanks | 16:48 |
kenvandine | cool | 16:48 |
cjohnston | downstairs? | 16:48 |
kenvandine | yeah | 16:51 |
kenvandine | actually i am heading down there now | 16:51 |
kenvandine | so whenever | 16:51 |
cjohnston | ok | 16:51 |
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sash_ | hello everyone. lool from #ubuntu-mobile told me that mterry or didrocks from here could help me. | 18:31 |
sash_ | well, i am trying to package netbook-launcher in fedora, some libraries, too. because of a change in ld's behaviour (read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ChangeInImplicitDSOLinking and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UnderstandingDSOLinkChange if interested), it is not linkable by using default ./configure && make | 18:33 |
sash_ | i did ./configure && make LDFLAGS="--libs /lib/libm.so.6 /usr/lib/libXau.so.6" or change this is in my .spec-file | 18:36 |
sash_ | that works, but should be in the configure-script imho, because also without the new behaviour, it is not wrong ;) | 18:36 |
bochecha | sash_, you're building netbook launcher for Fedora? Awesome! I'm building Unity for Fedora, we could probably use each other's help :) | 18:40 |
sash_ | bochecha: yes, i try. also have to package some libs. | 18:40 |
bochecha | which ones? | 18:41 |
bochecha | here's what I'm building: https://edge.launchpad.net/~canonical-dx-team/+archive/une/+packages | 18:41 |
bochecha | is there any intersection with what you're doing? | 18:41 |
LaserJock | I don't think Unity uses much from the older UNE interface (what the heck do we name that?) | 18:44 |
didrocks | sash_: bochecha: can see next week, after UDS? I'll try to get some free time for you guys ;) | 18:46 |
sash_ | bochecha: libclutk, libclutk-dev, liblauncher, liblauncher-dev, libnetbook-launcher as i see | 18:46 |
bochecha | didrocks, sure, I'm getting somewhere anyway ;) | 18:46 |
sash_ | didrocks: of course ;) | 18:47 |
didrocks | great :) | 18:47 |
LaserJock | sash_: are you going to be interested in the applets (go-home and window-picker) too? | 18:47 |
sash_ | yes | 18:47 |
sash_ | i want to have the whole netbook-remix in fedora | 18:48 |
sash_ | bochecha: its no official project yet. need to make the accounts. didnt package anything yet | 18:49 |
LaserJock | sash_: good luck, it would be cool to see on Fedora | 18:52 |
sash_ | to be able to build netbook-launcher i converted the libs with alien, because i was lazy and just wanted to build netbook-launcher and it does build. i also packaged it in an rpm, but its not really installable yet ;) | 18:53 |
bochecha | sash_, some of the bits of the old UNE are already in Fedora btw, like maximus or the window-picker applet | 18:55 |
sash_ | yes, i saw that | 18:55 |
bochecha | sash_, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484423 | 18:57 |
ubottu | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 484423 in Package Review "Review Request: netbook-launcher - A clutter-based desktop launcher" [Medium,Assigned] | 18:57 |
bochecha | netbook-launcher was already submitted, it's being reviewed | 18:57 |
sash_ | bochecha: seen, how old ;) | 18:57 |
bochecha | yeah, but at least you don't have to start everything from scratch | 18:58 |
sash_ | bochecha: i also stay in contact to cwickert, who reviewed it, and he will review mine, too. and i have to start from scratch. 1st point is ld in f13, second the netbook-launcher-version | 18:59 |
sash_ | ok, i used the specfile... | 19:14 |
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bochecha | anyone would have a minute to review this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/liblauncher/+bug/580194 | 22:10 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 580194 in liblauncher "liblauncher doesn't build on Fedora 13 (implicit DSO linking)" [Undecided,New] | 22:10 |
bochecha | patch is attached | 22:10 |
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