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| didrocks | kklimonda: sure | 00:14 |
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| didrocks | kklimonda: can you open a bug for that? (on maverick, of course) | 00:14 |
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| Amaranth | What is a good example package for something using cmake? Please no cdbs :) | 01:47 |
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| === nobawk|away is now known as nobawk | ||
| imbrandon | most any kde app | 03:17 |
| Amaranth | imbrandon: I thought they all used cdbs | 03:39 |
| Amaranth | ooh, nice, they use dh 7 stuff | 03:47 |
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| bilalakhtar | lfaraone: Are you there? | 06:31 |
| bilalakhtar | Oh, you are not there | 06:32 |
| bilalakhtar | Anyone here to review my package? its here http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/liboauth | 07:15 |
| bilalakhtar | People, I have been facing a problem with building package pino in maverick chroot. The zlib.pc file is not found by the configure script. in which package is it? | 07:32 |
| bilalakhtar | Anyone here? | 07:51 |
| bilalakhtar | Can anyone review my package http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/liboauth | 08:03 |
| bilalakhtar | Amaranth: Hi there! Can you review my package? | 08:05 |
| crimsun | bilalakhtar: please be patient | 08:13 |
| bilalakhtar | crimsun: ok | 08:13 |
| bilalakhtar | .quit | 08:30 |
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| === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ | ||
| mok0 | I need a quick hint. How can I tell what date I upgraded? | 11:45 |
| yofel | check the dates of the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ maybe? | 11:46 |
| mok0 | yofel: thanks I'll look | 11:47 |
| mok0 | yofel, yep. | 11:47 |
| geser | you could also look at /var/log/dpkg.log | 11:47 |
| mok0 | geser: Indeed! | 11:48 |
| bilalakhtar | is alien recommended to convert packages from rpm to deb? or is it better to install from source? | 11:48 |
| geser | make a proper deb? | 11:49 |
| bilalakhtar | People, if I run lintian with -I -E --pedantic tags on a binary package and still get no errors, does it mean my package is ready to go into the archives? | 12:01 |
| kklimonda | no, it just means that lintian finds no problems with it | 12:01 |
| bilalakhtar | kklimonda: thats good, right? | 12:01 |
| bilalakhtar | kklimonda: Can I ignore the binary-without-manpage tag ? | 12:02 |
| bilalakhtar | since its an upstream error | 12:02 |
| kklimonda | you should still write one yourself | 12:03 |
| bilalakhtar | kklimonda: is that important? I am uploading package gconjugo with that tag to revu right now | 12:04 |
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| kklimonda | there are quite a few programs without manpages but is it good enough reason not to provide one yourself? man page is a first place after --help that people use to get info about executable | 12:06 |
| mok0 | kklimonda: you should definitely provide a man-page | 12:28 |
| mok0 | kklimonda: as you say, it's the first place to look for info about a program. | 12:29 |
| mok0 | kklimonda: man pages are great. It's the only standardized way of documentation that actually works | 12:30 |
| mr_pouit | except for graphical programs, they are not that useful | 12:30 |
| mok0 | mr_pouit: That depends how much effort the author puts into it | 12:32 |
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| imbrandon | !sru | 12:32 |
| ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 12:33 |
| mr_pouit | mok0: many graphical programs have only --help (and e.g. gtk specific switches), and a manpage is rather useless in this case | 12:34 |
| mok0 | mr_pouit: I respectfully disagree | 12:34 |
| mr_pouit | a well written package description is probably better | 12:34 |
| mok0 | mr_pouit: if it's well written, it can be wrapped into a man-page :-) | 12:36 |
| mr_pouit | mok0: of course, but why? | 12:38 |
| mr_pouit | (it's time that could be used better) | 12:41 |
| mok0 | mr_pouit: the short answer is that it's policy | 12:43 |
| mr_pouit | mok0: it's a "should", not a "must" | 12:48 |
| astraljava | mr_pouit: I think that's what has been said all along: [14:28] < mok0> kklimonda: you should definitely provide a man-page | 12:50 |
| mr_pouit | astraljava: yeah, but it's not a reason not to sponsor the package, nor to to override the tag | 12:52 |
| mr_pouit | most of the time they are useful, but for some graphical programs without options, not really | 12:52 |
| bilalakhtar | Uploaded a new package gconjugo to revu (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gnome-medai-player ) and needs-packaging bug #569687 | 12:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 569687 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] gconjugo" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/569687 | 12:57 |
| astraljava | mr_pouit: Debian policy begs to differ: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html third paragraph | 12:57 |
| bilalakhtar | Anyone here to sponsor it? | 12:57 |
| mr_pouit | astraljava: I know that, but nowhere is the word "must" ;) | 12:58 |
| astraljava | mr_pouit: True. :) But one should strive towards a bugless package anyway. :) | 12:59 |
| astraljava | bilalakhtar: That link says Package does not exist. | 12:59 |
| bilalakhtar | astraljava: sorry wrong link. correct one http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gconjugo | 13:02 |
| bilalakhtar | astraljava: got it? | 13:06 |
| astraljava | bilalakhtar: Yeah, that one works. However, I'm not a MOTU, was just helping you out to reduce any confusion. :) | 13:07 |
| bilalakhtar | astraljava: ohk | 13:07 |
| bilalakhtar | hyperair: Hi there! Are you there? | 13:09 |
| bilalakhtar | This chap has sponsored one of my packages, so I am calling 'im | 13:11 |
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| JontheEchidna | persia: We have Colin over here, so we're good | 14:11 |
| highvoltage | hi, I need some help on SRU | 14:14 |
| highvoltage | I followed the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates as closely as I could | 14:14 |
| highvoltage | (for bug 474156) | 14:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 474156 in libmimic "package libmimic0 1.0.4-2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 2 (dup-of: 512096)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/474156 | 14:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 512096 in dpkg "[MASTER] Exec format error : package failed to install/remove : installation/removal script returned error exit status 2" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512096 | 14:15 |
| highvoltage | I first uploaded the fixed package to maverick for testing as the wiki page suggested, then when I tested it and it passed I uploaded the same package to lucid-proposed | 14:16 |
| highvoltage | but I received an e-mail back saying that the package was already in the archive | 14:16 |
| highvoltage | the package I uploaded to lucid-proposed is the same as the version I uploaded to maverick | 14:16 |
| highvoltage | should the version be different? | 14:16 |
| bilalakhtar | can any motu be kind enough to review my package http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gconjugo and point out mistakes? | 14:17 |
| JontheEchidna | persia: Though, we would like to hear a few of your opinions on the matter ;) | 14:19 |
| ari-tczew | highvolate: I don't see any patches and ACK from SRU team | 14:19 |
| ari-tczew | s/highvolate/highvoltage | 14:19 |
| JontheEchidna | persia: though seeing as you have a different username in the uds channel, I am probably talking to your home pc | 14:20 |
| highvoltage | ari-tczew: so I should put the patch on the bug report and get an ack first before doing the upload? | 14:21 |
| ari-tczew | highvoltage: of course | 14:21 |
| highvoltage | ok | 14:22 |
| ari-tczew | no without reason is delegated team to deciding about SRUs | 14:22 |
| ari-tczew | highvoltage: is it bug 512096 ? | 14:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 512096 in dpkg "[MASTER] Exec format error : package failed to install/remove : installation/removal script returned error exit status 2" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512096 | 14:22 |
| geser | highvoltage: yes, the version should be different: lucid version < SRU < maverick version | 14:24 |
| highvoltage | the original version in lucid was 0.71, so the SRU version should be 0.71ubuntu0.1 right? | 14:27 |
| geser | yes | 14:27 |
| bilalakhtar | lfaraone: Hi there! Did you see the latest liboauth I uploaded to revu (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/liboauth ) ? | 14:30 |
| highvoltage | ari-tczew: patch attached | 14:30 |
| bilalakhtar | lfaraone: I fixed all the ones you mentioned | 14:30 |
| ari-tczew | highvoltage: what's the bug? | 14:31 |
| highvoltage | ari-tczew: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/edubuntu-artwork/+bug/574156 | 14:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 574156 in edubuntu-artwork "package edubuntu-artwork 0.1.0-71 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Fix released] | 14:31 |
| lfaraone | bilalakhtar: I'm a little bit busy right now, I'll take a look at it in two hours. | 14:32 |
| bilalakhtar | lfaraone: fine, no problem at all | 14:32 |
| ari-tczew | highvoltage: you gave a wrong bug numer at start question. you can remove useless attachments | 14:34 |
| highvoltage | ari-tczew: ok | 14:35 |
| highvoltage | ari-tczew: how do I remove useless attachments, I don't see an option for that in LP | 14:36 |
| highvoltage | (ah got it) | 14:36 |
| ari-tczew | highvoltage: click on (edit) | 14:36 |
| highvoltage | ari-tczew: all cleaned up, only error log and debdiff now attached | 14:38 |
| ari-tczew | highvoltage: ok, now if you want get this SRU process ASAP, ask jdong and give him a SRU's bug number | 14:39 |
| highvoltage | ari-tczew: thanks for your tips and advice! | 14:40 |
| highvoltage | jdong: could you perhaps take a look at bug 574156 for an SRU? | 14:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 574156 in edubuntu-artwork "package edubuntu-artwork 0.1.0-71 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/574156 | 14:41 |
| ari-tczew | highvoltage: you're welcome | 14:41 |
| ari-tczew | highvoltage: and once again... you can give a patch by bzr branch, not necessairly debdiff :) just information | 14:43 |
| highvoltage | ari-tczew: ok. I assume that requires us to have the packaging in bzr inthe first place :) | 14:50 |
| highvoltage | (which we're planning to do for this release) | 14:50 |
| ari-tczew | highvoltage: head packaging in bzr is future planned. now you can attach a debdiff, but it's high time to learn and get used to bzr | 15:04 |
| highvoltage | ari-tczew: ok | 15:08 |
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| Breaking_Pitt | I'm trying to do a debian package from a setup.py | 15:45 |
| Breaking_Pitt | when I run make builddeb it stops saying that make[2]: *** No rule to make target `distclean'. Stop. | 15:46 |
| Breaking_Pitt | some advice? | 15:46 |
| ChogyDan | Breaking_Pitt: I have no advice, but I think you need to add that to the makefile, right? | 15:46 |
| c_korn | Breaking_Pitt: what is your debian/rules file ? | 15:47 |
| Breaking_Pitt | one momento please i'll pastebin it | 15:47 |
| Breaking_Pitt | http://pastebin.com/J8tB4FT4 | 15:47 |
| c_korn | odd, I thought dh_auto_clean checked for the existance of a distclean target | 15:49 |
| Breaking_Pitt | Am I missing something? | 15:50 |
| c_korn | just for testing purposes add: override_dh_auto_clean: | 15:51 |
| Breaking_Pitt | where? | 15:51 |
| Breaking_Pitt | in rules? | 15:51 |
| c_korn | yes | 15:52 |
| Breaking_Pitt | where exactly? | 15:52 |
| Breaking_Pitt | ?¿ | 15:55 |
| c_korn | Breaking_Pitt: http://pastebin.com/R0Y2zQBP | 16:03 |
| c_korn | Breaking_Pitt: pastebin the entire debuild output. | 16:06 |
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| ppannuto | Hi MOTU! I'm new to packaging / REVU / etc; I wrote a replacement for the gmail-notify package a little while back, and it was suggested that I try to package and release it so that others may enjoy it too. I think I've gotten a hold of all of this, and I was wondering now that lucid is out and things have hopefully started to settle down what the best practice/policy is for getting a package reviewed? ( link here: http://revu | 16:53 |
| ppannuto | .ubuntuwire.com/p/gmail-notifier ) | 16:53 |
| ppannuto | link again not split across two messages: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gmail-notifier | 16:53 |
| jcfp | ppannuto: looking | 16:57 |
| Breaking_Pitt | hello i have finished my first package | 17:05 |
| Breaking_Pitt | how can i know if this is correctly signed? | 17:05 |
| mannyv | cjwatson, around? | 17:10 |
| bulldog98 | I try to package an package with source format 3.0 quilt but I get an error: | 17:34 |
| bulldog98 | Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Skipping patch. | 17:35 |
| bulldog98 | 1 out of 1 hunk ignored -- saving rejects to file src/CMakeLists.txt.rej | 17:35 |
| bulldog98 | what does that means? | 17:35 |
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| azeem_ | bulldog98: it means the patch didn't apply | 17:35 |
| bulldog98 | azeem_: what could I’ve done wrong? | 17:36 |
| bulldog98 | because quilt applys it | 17:36 |
| bulldog98 | and it’s not the error in the debian wiki | 17:36 |
| azeem_ | what command are you running when you get the error? | 17:37 |
| bulldog98 | debuild -S -sd -kMYKEYID | 17:38 |
| azeem_ | so the clean target does not work? | 17:38 |
| bulldog98 | azeem_: seems so | 17:38 |
| azeem_ | hrm | 17:39 |
| azeem_ | and quilt pop -a does work? | 17:39 |
| bulldog98 | after running the command yes | 17:39 |
| azeem_ | maybe dpkg-source's quilt gets confused if you run quilt manually behind its back | 17:40 |
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| bulldog98 | azeem_: I did quilt pop -a before running the command | 17:40 |
| bulldog98 | but it happend again | 17:40 |
| azeem_ | probably because dpkg-source thinks the patches are still applied and tries to unapply them | 17:41 |
| azeem_ | check the output | 17:41 |
| azeem_ | or pastebin it | 17:41 |
| bulldog98 | azeem_: http://pastebin.de/6461 | 17:47 |
| ppannuto | jcfp: thanks for looking, any progress? | 17:49 |
| kklimonda | is there a good documentation how to use new deb format with full tree bzr branches? | 17:49 |
| jcfp | ppannuto: almost, real life just keeps intruding | 17:50 |
| ppannuto | I understand completely, no hurry -- I'm actually going to grab lunch, back in ~40; thanks again | 17:51 |
| jdong | highvoltage: looked at your SRU; ACKed. | 17:51 |
| ppannuto | hi john | 17:51 |
| ppannuto | SRU? | 17:51 |
| jdong | hey Pat! | 17:51 |
| jdong | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/edubuntu-artwork/+bug/574156 | 17:51 |
| jdong | yup, update to lucid | 17:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 574156 in edubuntu-artwork "package edubuntu-artwork 0.1.0-71 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Fix released] | 17:52 |
| jdong | highvoltage: on that note I'm kinda surprised plymouth artwork doesn't have an actual alternatives system? | 17:52 |
| kklimonda | hmm.. it doesn't? | 18:00 |
| kklimonda | there is /etc/alternatives/default.plymouth and text.plymouth | 18:01 |
| jdong | the debdiff led me to assume it didn't | 18:01 |
| jdong | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48390096/edubuntu-artwork.debdiff | 18:01 |
| jdong | "FIXME: Will be accomplished with alternatives in Lucid+1" | 18:02 |
| kklimonda | interesting | 18:02 |
| kklimonda | maybe it got added later in lucid cycle? | 18:02 |
| jdong | maybe | 18:02 |
| bulldog98 | anyone else able to tell me what I did wrong http://pastebin.de/6461 | 18:05 |
| ari-tczew | jdong: could you open a task on lucid then bug 574156? | 18:06 |
| maxb | bulldog98: You have a patch in the quilt which does not apply | 18:07 |
| jdong | ari-tczew: opened | 18:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 574156 in edubuntu-artwork "package edubuntu-artwork 0.1.0-71 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/574156 | 18:09 |
| ari-tczew | jdong: sorry for taking your time, but I need open a task on hardy; bug 297933 | 18:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 297933 in libgadu "kadu: CVE-2008-4776 remote DoS" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/297933 | 18:10 |
| jdong | ari-tczew: done. | 18:10 |
| jdong | (and wow, ubottu is slow today) | 18:10 |
| ari-tczew | jdong: thanks! | 18:10 |
| jcfp | ppannuto: commented | 18:14 |
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| Amaranth | wow the new compiz stuff has a bunch of problems :/ http://pastie.org/958987 | 18:58 |
| ari-tczew | maverick still doesn't exist on packages.ubuntu.com :( | 18:58 |
| Amaranth | stupid rpath | 18:58 |
| ppannuto | jcfp: Thanks, I'll start fixing these | 19:15 |
| bulldog98 | maxb: but quilt push -a doesn’t says anything | 19:20 |
| highvoltage | jdong: plymouth didn't at the time of packaging | 20:54 |
| highvoltage | jdong: plymouth only started to use alternatives close to the end | 20:54 |
| Turl | hi all | 20:58 |
| Turl | I have a question | 20:58 |
| Turl | gufw, the ufw ui, currently has a bug with rule deletion | 20:59 |
| Turl | and I've talked with the devel and he will fix it | 20:59 |
| Turl | what would be the next move to get that fix published for ubuntu users? | 20:59 |
| Turl | gufw is in universe | 20:59 |
| Laney | if it's a serious bug you can get it updated with an SRU | 21:05 |
| Laney | looks like the person to talk to is devfil | 21:06 |
| Laney | Turl: ^^^^ | 21:09 |
| Turl | Laney: would you consider this bug serious? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gui-ufw/+bug/578404 | 21:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 578404 in gui-ufw "GUFW erases the rule not selected to be erased" [High,Confirmed] | 21:11 |
| Turl | when you click on a rule and delete it, gufw deletes some other rule sometimes | 21:12 |
| Turl | I guess it's kind of serious, a normal user would say 'the app is broken', and if they don't pay attention they might be opening another port or something | 21:13 |
| Turl | without even noticing, who knows what a user might do :P | 21:13 |
| jdong | Turl: yes, that's a serious bug | 21:14 |
| jdong | is there a fix for it? | 21:14 |
| Turl | I'll talk with devid then, thanks Laney and jdong | 21:14 |
| Turl | jdong: we know where the bug is, but there's no patch exactly now | 21:15 |
| Turl | I guess Marcos (Gufw's devel) will commit a fix soon | 21:15 |
| jdong | Turl: ok once a patch is available, it should be cherrypicked for a SRU | 21:16 |
| jdong | I'd approve a SRU for an issue like this | 21:17 |
| bulldog98 | found my problem | 22:44 |
| kklimonda | can I get a list of packages that has diverged from debian but has not been touched in lucid and debian has had an upload during lucid cycle? :) | 22:56 |
| kklimonda | hmm, probably MoM | 22:56 |
| Laney | what are you after? | 22:57 |
| ajmitch | packages outdated in lucid that could have been synced | 22:57 |
| * ajmitch is seeing if mdt has info for lucid | 22:57 | |
| kklimonda | Laney: I'm wondering how bad shape universe is in :) | 22:58 |
| Laney | sounds like merge o matic | 22:58 |
| ajmitch | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/mdt/all.html has those sort of stats for maverick | 22:58 |
| kklimonda | Laney: interesting blog post btw :) | 22:58 |
| Laney | UDD has a lot of stuff you can query too | 22:58 |
| jpds | kklimonda: Sounds like the package culling session we had earlier today. | 22:58 |
| Laney | http://udd.debian.org | 22:58 |
| Laney | kklimonda: *hides* :) | 22:58 |
| kklimonda | jpds: probably - I've just read about Universe QA session on Laney's blog ;) | 22:59 |
| ajmitch | jpds: it sounds more like the default state of universe - not touched by us, but had changes after DIF | 22:59 |
| kklimonda | for some reason I find it impossible to actually participate remotely in UDS sessions :/ | 22:59 |
| ajmitch | it is rather hard to do when you're not in the same timezone | 23:00 |
| Laney | this all started in a conversation with ajmitch | 23:00 |
| Laney | blame him! | 23:00 |
| crimsun | it's difficult even if you're in the same building, darned plethora of tracks | 23:00 |
| ajmitch | who me? | 23:00 |
| * ajmitch is innocent of all wrongdoing | 23:00 | |
| kklimonda | ajmitch: well, that's actually not the problem - it's just that I can't get around using IRC to participate in discussion when the rest can see each others :) | 23:01 |
| ajmitch | there is that | 23:01 |
| * ajmitch isn't even trying to keep up with UDS this time | 23:01 | |
| kklimonda | neither do I - all I've listened to were three or four discussions.. and I've almost fallen asleep on Upstart QA ;) | 23:02 |
| kklimonda | Laney: ajmitch is there a gobby document from universe qa ? | 23:02 |
| ajmitch | why ask me? :) | 23:02 |
| kklimonda | erm.. jpds :) | 23:02 |
| Laney | yes | 23:02 |
| Laney | community-m-universe-qa, i believe | 23:03 |
| kklimonda | ajmitch: your nick has a nice color in my weechat :) | 23:03 |
| ajmitch | Laney: was anything useful written down, or was it mostly just discussion that wasn't recorded? | 23:03 |
| Laney | I can't get on gobby :( | 23:04 |
| Laney | but I think I remember it being quite decent | 23:04 |
| * ajmitch wonders how the debian health check went | 23:05 | |
| crimsun | it was interesting. The most useful thing for me was learning that we should file RFAs for packages not in either U/D | 23:07 |
| ajmitch | RFA for something not in debian? | 23:07 |
| crimsun | err, for packages that U devs don't wish to maintain. Yeah. | 23:07 |
| ajmitch | I suppose it makes more sense than an ITP, but I thought maybe an RFP, pointing to the ubuntu package | 23:08 |
| ajmitch | but I don't deal enough with debian :) | 23:08 |
| ajmitch | the debian/ubuntu crossover is an area I ought to work on more | 23:09 |
| kklimonda | hmm.. I have this weird feeling that MOTU is supposed to be "the janitors of unseeded packages" after reorganization, or am I completely wrong? :) | 23:10 |
| Laney | That's pretty correct | 23:11 |
| ajmitch | those that clean up the mess | 23:14 |
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