[00:05] RoAkSoAx: Thanks. [00:05] Weird place for it... [00:24] hello people [00:24] i just got new server [00:24] 2 hard drives 80 and 160gb [00:24] how should i partition it? [00:25] primarily as web server [00:25] Owner_: Honestly, I'd consider using an LVM or something so you could have one huge space. But I'm no expert by any means. === Owner_ is now known as wizardslovak [00:26] hmmm [00:27] With the new grub, you can even boot off of a LVM partition, though I don't know if I'd trust it for a production server. [00:27] ok [00:28] maybe i will just partition 80gb for now and leave 160 for later [00:28] huh [00:28] what version are you using? [00:29] I just upgraded my server from Karmic to Lucid. [00:30] Though, since I've got four 1.5 TB drives with a small RAID 1 partition for /boot and everything else RAID 5'd together to form a physical volume for a LVM, which lets me put swap and / on the same space...it's a bit more complicated than your HD setup. [00:31] well i want this server to run 2-3 web sites [00:31] so not much data tho [00:32] My only experience with running multiple sites is Apache's sites-enabled stuff, so I can't tell you whether you'd want them all on the same partition; I can't think of why you wouldn't, but that doesn't mean there isn't a reason. [00:34] i want to erase partition and it says "in use by lvm volume group name" [00:35] If you've started creating an LVM setup, you need to take it apart from the top down: remove the logical volumes, then remove the volume group, and then you can change the physical volumes into something else. [00:35] ok got it [00:36] * flyback bbl [00:37] quit [00:43] ok so 80gb is partitioned [00:43] how should i set up 160gb? [00:44] I don't know; if you're making the 80gb one volume, then the only option would be to make the 160gb a separate volume. [00:44] Though don't forget some swap space and maybe a boot partition. [00:45] yea swap is 2x ram and boot is 1gb [00:45] Sounds fine. [00:45] so i should leave 160 as "free space"? [00:46] I suppose, as long as you've got your swap and boot taken care of. [00:46] i used to play with ubuntu server some time ago [00:46] i just have to remind myself some stuff [00:58] what is the best way to do a CLI ADSL PPPoE connection? [01:06] go into your modem from the isp and configure it for bridge mode :P [01:06] and not worry about the pppoe part [01:08] hmmm [01:08] i used to bridge modem and then upse PPpOe in router [01:08] always worked [01:08] hey, is anybody here running supermicro 2u twin servers? [01:09] I'm having stability problems, have replaced almost every inch of the system and starting to think it may be ubuntu related [01:09] try [01:09] memtest.sh [01:09] google "redhat memtest.sh" [01:09] notice I said memtest.sh [01:10] wizardslovak: Last time I configured it that way my router called it half-bridged mode. [01:10] NOT memtest86 [01:10] flyback: are you talking to me? [01:10] yes [01:10] huh wel i had wrt54g with dd-wrt huh [01:10] just put my info in there and worked lol [01:10] what will it tell me that memtest86 won't? [01:11] it checks [01:11] cpu [01:11] dma channels [01:11] pci bus [01:11] ide bus [01:11] etc [01:11] for bit errors [01:11] ah, excellent [01:11] basically it zips and unzips the kernel source [01:11] does it stress the machine much? [01:11] a canuckload of times [01:11] and diffs it to check for bit flips [01:11] yes [01:12] ok, i'll remove a node from production - thanks for that flyback, i'll see what it tells me [01:12] sure :) [01:14] Hi, playing about with ubuntu server on a really old laptop. It doesn't have a networking port, so I've been trying to use a USB wifi dongle to get it going, however when I plug it in the dongle doesn't show up in ifconfig [01:14] but if I plug it into my PC that has ubuntu desktop, it does. [01:14] how come /etc/resolv.conf its empty? [01:14] i am trying to setup static ip [01:16] well, the DD-WRT box I've got running just isn't cutting it. [01:16] and I'd like to set up the server as the router/firewall [01:16] oh ok [01:16] i run dd0wrt for couple years now and never had any problems with it [01:16] i had it on dsl and cable , always worked like charm [01:16] huh [01:17] the ipv6 iptables stack kinda sucks under 2.4, but the wifi chip in WRT54G isn't supported well under 2.6, so dd-wrt kinda stinks at ipv6 on wrt54gl hardware [01:17] well, currently, I have DSL @ the house here, and the Linksys POS router is just that, a POS. I'd like to run the modem into my server, then have the server be the router (along with a lot of other crap) [01:19] listen do i have to remve dhcp-client to have static ip on server? [01:19] how i do to adjust clock to UTC? [01:19] how setup timezone? [01:19] wizardslovak, are you giving out DHCP addresses to your internal network? [01:20] killown, look under /etc/ntp.cfg [01:20] jeeves, nothing there [01:20] killown, one sec [01:20] no i want server to have static ip , it will be web server so no dns [01:21] ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Brazil/ /etc/localtime [01:21] wizardslovak, your static IP comes from your ISP. [01:21] yes i know [01:21] i gt static ip from isp [01:21] wizardslovak, ok, and you have 2 NICs in your box? [01:21] i want my server to have static ip on my LAN 192.168.1.x [01:22] killown, give me a sec, I'm going to see if I can find out what's going on with your box. Do you have the NTP server installed? [01:22] yes i do have 2 of them [01:22] i just got my 1u server today ;) [01:22] jeeves, yes [01:22] wizardslovak, ok, and you've got the ISP side one direct connect to the modem? [01:22] killown, ok, one sec [01:22] my isp goes to modem which goes to router to which server is connected [01:23] wizardslovak, ok, and you've got your ports forwarded to the server? [01:23] yes 80 and 25 [01:23] i wont use it as email so no other ports are nessesary [01:24] dpkg-reconfigure tzdata [01:24] i am following this guide http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/ [01:24] jeeves, i found.. [01:24] killown, http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/manage-time-in-ubuntu-through-command-line/ [01:24] anyway thank you [01:24] killown, sorry, I've got the 2 of you, 3 people on FB,and the fiance wanting attention [01:24] jeeves, no problem!! ty [01:24] jeeves , i know how it feels [01:25] wizardslovak, ok, so you've got the setup as the following.. internet ==> modem ==> router ==> server? [01:25] yes [01:25] brb guys, rum is in the fridge @ the other end of the house [01:25] huh i still gotta go pay my bills today , which is couple block huh [01:26] all day long i was waiting for this server to come so i can play with it ;) [01:28] ok, sorry, I had to go get some rum [01:28] wizardslovak, ok, so you want to do what now with your setup? [01:29] static ip on server [01:29] i just redone /etc/network interfaces [01:29] is there anything else i gotta do? [01:29] wizardslovak, are you talking about an internal static IP (ie. static on your internal network so you can port forward)? [01:30] yes [01:30] so i can ssh in my LAN [01:31] wizardslovak, http://pastebin.com/SkzUUb3E [01:31] Anyhow i am still having problems getting my wireless up in master mode.... stupid hows link to pages that dont exist... and are incomplete for the zd1211 chipset [01:31] then pull a "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" [01:32] yeap i got same [01:33] ok, once you've got that setup that way, then go into the port forwarding on your router and point the ports you need to that static IP [01:34] Anyhow i am still having problems getting my wireless up in master mode.... stupid hows link to pages that dont exist... and are incomplete for the zd1211 chipset [01:34] dominicdinada, I heard you. I'm not the wireless guy. sorry [01:34] Ok :P [01:35] maybe someone else is [01:35] wizardslovak, did that work out for ya? [01:35] dominicdinada, it's kinda quiet in here tongiht [01:36] hey guyz, i upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 and i hangs at boot, kernal log says can't read proc fs 1 [01:37] cipher421, did it ever boot after you upgraded? [01:37] yea barely tho [01:37] like 2 lines into the boot [01:37] says will check some fs in 2 boots or so [01:37] then hangs [01:37] cipher421, lol, sounds like to me that grub forgot what it was doing. [01:37] hi [01:38] huh i restarted all system and now its "main process (797) terminated with status 4 [01:38] cipher421, have you tried a grub repair? [01:38] no [01:38] i have a fresh ubuntu 9.04 installed [01:38] jus grub-repair or so? [01:38] and need help with routingtables [01:38] everyone, make sure that you put the person's name infront of who you're talking to. otherwise, no one knows who is talking to who! [01:39] cipher421, one sec, I'll see if I can find the howto I used [01:39] cipher421, do you know what partition the boot is on? [01:39] hrm [01:40] i think so [01:40] cipher421, ok, this "howto" is a little "round about", but it'll get you to where you need to go. http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html [01:40] damn [01:40] something happened [01:40] wizardslovak, ??? [01:40] i cannot boot into system [01:41] did you go pee on the machine again?? [01:41] "init: ureadahead-other main process (784) terminated with status 4" [01:41] sorry, crazy stressful day [01:41] thanks jeeves [01:41] wizardslovak, lol, this is after you changed your interfaces file? [01:41] yes i changed this and enabled uwf [01:42] cipher421, np. give it a try. I have to do it every time I update any adobe products on either of my Windows partitions on my netbook [01:42] wizardslovak, lol!!! ok, can you get grub to boot you into recovery mode? [01:42] jeeves, ok so my problem is that i will have to use this hdd to recover the server [01:42] wizardslovak, I think you've got a little more going on there than just the interfaces table [01:42] or actually i can use the server cd to recover... [01:43] hmmm [01:43] lets see [01:43] i cannot get into grub lol [01:43] cipher421, what it sounds like is that when the upgrade went through, there was some wierd drive mapping going on with the orignal install, grub's auto find OS feature messed up, and poof, no bootable OS [01:43] ill just reinstall whole os [01:44] wizardslovak, d-load the live CD, and beat it into sublission with a large alumimium baseball bat (and yes, I've done that to a client's server before) [01:44] wizardslovak, is there anything on there that you care about? [01:44] jeeves i'll report back in 10 or so! [01:44] thank! [01:44] jeeves i just got this server huh nothing there yet [01:44] if not, them play with it and learn!! otherwise, you'll never figure it out! [01:44] cipher421, lol. kk [01:45] wizardslovak, well, if there's nothing important on there, then play with it! Those are the best ones! when you have no pressure of time or messing things up. [01:45] yea but i cannot even get int o grub lol [01:45] also, i was told earlier that btrfs was included on 10.04, but didn't see the option [01:46] wizardslovak, when you boot off of the live CD, then you've got shell [01:47] cipher421, ??? you may have to get into it via a live CD, then figure it out! I pitty you if you've got to edit Grub2 by hand [01:47] i've done it before... [01:48] have a bad taste in my mouth already [01:48] i really don't like grub2.... [01:48] what was wrong with grub? [01:48] huh [01:48] talking to jeeves [01:49] brb [01:49] lol now i cant even boot into livecd [01:49] cipher421, lol, they made the decition to move to the new one because it "looks better" and does more things. Personally, I prefer my 1985 Jaguar XJ-S over the Mazda POS that my fiance drives. And for a car that's got 20 years on it, I can still smoke her (and most of the rice rockets) on the road [01:49] wizardslovak, check your BIOS to boot from the disk (or you may have to hit F12 on POST) [01:49] i hit f12 choosed cdrom nothing [01:50] choosed usb same think [01:50] wizardslovak, ok, check the BIOS boot order (and if you've got the proper ROM if you have more than one) [01:52] hmm [01:52] "inte boot manager" [01:52] intel huh [01:53] LOL. [01:53] you've got an intel board? [01:53] "intel boot agent" huh [01:53] yes its p4 3ghz ht [01:53] ok so i booted into usb [01:54] and i put rescue a broken syste, [01:54] system [01:54] ok, and do you have root @ a shell prompt? [01:54] huh i think i found my problem [01:55] failed to detect and mount cdrom [01:55] what is wrong here: "sudo route add -net 134.91.0.0 gw 192.168.1.2" [01:55] STF, I'm not sure. I think I'm the only one in here who's actually @ the keyboard [01:56] lol [01:56] wizardslovak, did you figure it out? [01:57] i changed some setting is bios [01:57] let see what happen [01:57] wizardslovak, kk [01:57] STF, have you thought of using Webmin? [01:57] ok [01:57] i bypassed that cdrom [01:57] now i am at shell [01:57] ~x [01:58] wizardslovak, lol. good! we're making progress! [01:58] i wont use cdrom anyways , i will dissable it later [01:58] its taking me ,ittle longer to get thinks ;) [01:58] lol, just comment out that line in the fstab [01:58] ok that i didnt get [01:59] wizardslovak, "pico /etc/fstab" then put an "#" next to the line for the CD-ROM. [01:59] then it won't complain untill you reboot [02:00] "pico not found" [02:00] lol. [02:00] vi then? [02:00] test editor? i like nano [02:01] ok weird [02:01] lol, I use pico [02:01] "sedu nano /etc/fstab" and it says "sudo" not found" [02:01] i mean sudo nano [02:02] you don't need "sudo" if your prompt ends with "#". that means your logged in as the root user [02:03] ok nano /etc/fstab [02:03] yep [02:04] those are all the mounts that happen @ boot [02:04] there is nothing like "cr-drom" [02:04] there are 3 lines [02:04] see the CD in there? [02:04] first line "none /dev/pts devpts defaults 0 0 " [02:05] second line "none /proc proc defaults 0 0" [02:05] third line "none /sys sysfs noauto 0 0 " [02:05] and thats it [02:06] ok, don't worry about it then. you'll need to fiddle with repairing Grub now [02:06] ok [02:06] so what do i do now? [02:06] never repaired grub before [02:06] one sec [02:06] sure even two ;) [02:07] lol, I'm trying to fix a web hosting box @ the same time [02:07] ok i got time [02:07] http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html [02:08] ok [02:09] "fdisk " -> "not found" [02:09] do you even have an outbound connection? [02:09] i will just reinstall os [02:09] ?? [02:09] can you do a "apt-get install fdisk"? [02:10] no [02:10] lol, 'meh. nuke it if you want, but personally, I'm thinking it'd be an amazing learning exp for ya [02:10] i think i messed up somewhere [02:10] listen [02:11] this might sound stupid [02:11] try me. I deal with dumb people all day [02:11] hostaname is name of pc/server right? [02:11] hostname is the name of the box you're on. [02:11] tis a no go [02:11] cipher421, what was the setup on that box before the upgrade? [02:12] ok partitioning ill just use entire hard drive [02:12] think i've given up jeeves, i documented all my settings, so a reinstall will be a time saver at this point.. [02:12] feeling pretty beatup in general today anywayz [02:12] cipher421, no worries. if you've got everything backed up, then do it up. [02:13] ext4 or ext3? [02:13] cipher421, I'm just trying to get wizardslovak to learn how to recover his system [02:13] yea i keep all my good stuffs on another drive [02:13] ext4 for sure [02:13] wizardslovak, for now, stick with ext3 unless you've got a massive drive [02:13] aw man! [02:13] ok [02:13] ext4 = much better performance [02:13] wizardslovak, I wasn't able to recover my ext4 drive with a live CD the last time [02:14] interesting [02:14] so maybe thats why i couldnt do it this time [02:14] cipher421, it depends on the size of the drive though!!! [02:14] anywayz thanks jeeves, goodluck wizardslovak [02:14] cipher421, np. I've got a mickey of rum, I'll be better in a few [02:14] schweet [02:15] cipher421, lol, have a look @ www.tessawhite.ca for a good idea of who's waiting for me to get into bed [02:16] i have a 20 year old hottie waiting for me myself [02:16] ok i see interesting option [02:16] in "use as:" [02:16] which is why you need to be like me and stop geekin out on here [02:16] its called physical volume for LVM [02:16] i got some free space , [02:16] cipher421, pics? [02:17] hrm [02:17] cipher421, lol, and she's not home yet. she works 'till 11 [02:17] my server is down! [02:17] hahahahaha [02:17] cipher421, lol, nice excuse! [02:17] usually i take pride in it [02:17] hold up [02:17] drop me a line. I think you've got one of my domains. just hit the webmaster account [02:18] since this is obviously a pissing contest, i must win! [02:18] ok i got " / , swap , /home / var and /tmp" did i forget anything? [02:18] cipher421, lol. [02:18] wizardslovak, what are you looking for? [02:19] if i got correct partitioning on hard drives [02:19] its only for webserver + mysql [02:20] wizardslovak, do you have one that's called /boot or /etc? [02:20] no [02:20] got /boot now [02:21] do i need / [02:21] ?? [02:21] yes [02:21] ok 10gb as / [02:21] still got 6.5 gb free [02:21] cipher421, lol, no pics? [02:22] i put 40gb on /var [02:22] i im'd you [02:22] cipher421, http://moseley.ca/cat.jpg [02:23] hmm can i put /etc and /var on other hard drive? [02:23] wizardslovak, sounds like you've got a REALLY messed up system. just nuke it [02:23] ok i am doing fresh install now [02:23] wizardslovak, I'd help more, but I need to see what I'm looking @ [02:24] thats why i am asking how to partitionid [02:24] huh ok you looking at server with 2 hard drives [02:24] 80 gb and 160gb [02:24] what drives do you have in the box? [02:25] I'd personally leave everything but the /home dir on the 80, and mount /home on the 160 [02:25] ok [02:25] so /boot and swap on 80 [02:25] make swap ~4gb, and mount /home on the 160gb, and everything else is on the80 [02:25] ok [02:26] can you specify "Everything else? [02:27] ok, swap will be ~4Gb on the 80Gb drive. Mount / on the 80 as well. mount /home on the 160. [02:28] how much space should i put on /etc? [02:28] dosn't matter. it'll mount under / on the 80 [02:30] ok still got 25gb free [02:30] how? [02:31] maybe /tmp? [02:31] ok, follow closlet [02:31] *closley [02:31] delete EVERYTHING on both drives. [02:31] 1gb as /boot 4gb as swap 50gb as / [02:31] select the 160 [02:31] u da boss [02:31] create a new file system (ext4) on the 160. Tell it that the mount point is "/home" [02:31] i am following [02:32] done [02:32] then, on the 80, make a 4Gb partition @ the END of the disk. set it as SWAP [02:32] done [02:33] now, the rest on the 80, make a new partition and format it as EXT3. [02:33] then, the mount point for that is "/" [02:33] done [02:33] there ya go. keep going. [02:34] just because i am curious [02:34] ?? [02:34] can /var be on other hard drive? [02:35] NOOOO, just leave it the way I got you to set it up. you don't need to worry about putting anything else anywhere, just go on to the next setp of the install [02:35] ok i just asked huh [02:35] no worries [02:36] get sip of rum before we proceed ;) [02:36] just finish the install [02:36] ok [02:36] install LAMP and openssh or later? [02:36] that's the third or fourth last section of the install. [02:37] yea just want to know [02:37] np [02:37] if its better to install it now or later? [02:39] wait untill the installer gives you the option [02:39] ok [02:39] encrypt home direstory? [02:39] directory? [02:39] noooo [02:40] ok now it is [02:40] LAMP server and openssh server? [02:40] yep [02:41] ok done [02:41] its installing ;) [02:41] good! now, reboot and do an update (after you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file) [02:42] edit file? [02:42] shouldnt "apt-get install update" be enough? [02:42] well, you won't have the restricted repos in there [02:43] ok [02:43] installation complete [02:44] good! [02:44] now, when you're storing things, make sure you store them in /home [02:44] ok i am in [02:44] yuhuuu [02:44] ok === flyback is now known as f1yback [02:45]