[08:19] <tormod> finally made it to the UDS \o/
[10:20] <lucazade> Bernardo http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9291537&postcount=798
[10:30] <tseliot> lucazade: composite and render should be enabled by default, why did you put them in your xorg.conf?
[10:30] <tseliot> the same applies to aiglx
[10:30] <lucazade> to make test easier
[10:30] <lucazade> yes i know
[10:31] <tseliot> aah, to disable them when you need it
[10:31] <lucazade> i cannot remember every option, so..
[10:32] <lucazade> i leave them
[10:34] <bryceh> hi tseliot
[10:35] <tseliot> hi bryceh
[10:38] <tseliot> lucazade: did you put the 3d driver package in some ppa?
[10:39] <lucazade> not yet... maybe slonua was uploading to the gma500 ppa on launchpad
[10:39] <lucazade> not sure
[10:40] <tseliot> ok
[10:41] <tseliot> I think Sarvatt has the rest of the required packages in his ppa
[10:43] <lucazade> do you a have link to his ppa?
[10:43] <lucazade> or git repo?
[10:44] <tseliot> oh : http://www.internetling.com/2010/05/12/howto-intel-gma-500-poulsbo-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[10:45] <tseliot> his ppa: https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/psb
[10:47] <bryceh> RAOF, ^^^
[10:48] <RAOF> bryceh: Thanks
[10:50] <bryceh> RAOF, tseliot, you guys might want to contact that Lucazade guy and see what changes he did to the packages to get them to work
[10:50] <bryceh> looks to me like it might even be sru-worthy since it seems to have no debs for non-psb bits
[10:50] <bryceh> or mm at least
[10:50] <tseliot> bryceh: getting things to work is one thing, supporting them is another
[10:51] <tseliot> we could put the packages in the x-updates PPA when they are ready
[10:52]  * tseliot knows what it means to try to support poulsbo...
[10:55] <bryceh> tseliot, true
[10:55] <bryceh> oh hey I'm blind, lucazade is here on the channel :-)  sorry lucazade!
[10:57] <tseliot> my touchscreen uses poulsbo (and I have a few other devices with the same chip) therefore I'll be able to test it and fix the packages if something is wrong
[11:03] <lucazade> bryceh: svn repository for gma500...     https://gma500.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/
[11:04] <lucazade> bryceh or lp:gma500
[11:05] <bryceh> RAOF, wayland progress!  made it past the Makefile.in error
[11:06] <bryceh> tseliot, great
[11:08] <bryceh> lucazade, thanks
[11:08] <RAOF> bryceh: yay!
[11:09] <bryceh> lucazade, can you tell me what your interest is with gma500?  any interest helping with the maintenance of it in ubuntu more generally?
[11:14] <lucazade> bryceh.. my interest in gma500 is only for personal use, just a challange with my knowledge. I'd like to help and maintain but i'm not really a driver developer so I honestly don't know if I am able to. 
[11:14] <lucazade> really thanks for your offer
[11:18]  * ilmari should get around to forwarding bug #568138 upstream
[11:23] <bryceh> lucazade, ok no prob, well stick around, you sound like you'd be quite helpful if other users have some questions :-)
[12:30] <Bernardo> hi
[12:30] <Bernardo> lucazade: saw that you got it working with gnome, great
[12:31] <Bernardo> I see bryceh has left... :(
[12:32] <Bernardo> lucazade: the problems you had with compiz probably can't be solved with this version of the binary blobs
[12:33] <Bernardo> lucazade: the server part only supports glx 1.2, and if compiz is calling a 1.3 function, then we can't get to work without much effort
[12:34] <lucazade> yes, you're right... i can live without compiz on a netbook :)
[12:36] <lucazade> metacity compositor is enough
[12:44] <Bernardo> Now.. back to try getting some useful information out of x crashes
[12:44] <lucazade> :)
[12:45] <Bernardo> I've followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Backtracing but running X under gdb seems impossible on a 1101HA, always goes to 100%cpu
[12:46] <Bernardo> different subject - how do I tell launchpad which folders in bazaar it should build as packages?
[12:47] <lucazade> i've never build ppa from bzr.. always use dput
[12:47] <tseliot> Bernardo: what's the problem? Does X crash?
[12:47] <lucazade> yes
[12:47] <lucazade> with shadowfb false
[12:48] <tseliot> do you have an X log with the backtrace?
[12:48] <lucazade> http://code.google.com/p/gma500/issues/detail?id=21
[12:49] <lucazade> and
[12:49] <lucazade> http://code.google.com/p/gma500/issues/detail?id=15
[12:49] <Bernardo> 15
[12:49] <Bernardo> you're fast... :)
[12:49] <lucazade> eheh
[12:50] <Bernardo> tseliot: my machine has the xorg-core and xorg-core-dbg packages from bryceh's purple ppa, but that seems to be all info I can get from a backtrace
[12:51] <jcristau> you won't get more than that without gdb
[12:52] <Bernardo> I thought as much, but gdb here (running on a ssh session) hangs with xorg taking 100% cpu when I try to reproduce the crash
[12:52] <Bernardo> I've left it running overnight, but after 8 hours it was still hung and wouldn't answer to ctrl-c
[12:52] <jcristau> you could get X to dump core, and run gdb on that
[12:53] <jcristau> (with the -core option; should get a core file in /etc/X11/ after the crash)
[12:53] <Bernardo> let me try now...
[12:58] <Bernardo> jcristau: thanks, now I have 75M core to play with... :)
[13:00] <tseliot> Bernardo: I would like to see the full backtrace from that core
[13:01] <Bernardo> sure
[13:01] <Bernardo> it seems to end up inside pixman_blt_sse2
[13:02] <tseliot> did you install libpixman-1-0-dbg?
[13:09] <Bernardo> Should be:
[13:09] <Bernardo> libpixman-1-0-dbg:
[13:09] <Bernardo>   Instalado: 0.16.4-1ubuntu2
[13:09] <Bernardo>   Candidato: 0.16.4-1ubuntu2
[13:09] <Bernardo> tseliot: http://pastebin.com/gzvrhRcU
[13:10] <tseliot> thanks
[13:10] <Bernardo> tseliot: anything else you want, please ask. I'd love to get this working again (before it breaks with kernel 2.6.34)
[13:11] <tseliot> ok
[13:11] <jcristau> src_bits=0x0, dst_bits=0x0 sounds wrong somehow.
[13:13] <tseliot> yes, it makes very little sense
[13:14] <Bernardo> that seems to happen after #17, miDoCopy, the others below the values still seem to make sense
[13:16] <Bernardo> I forgot I had removed 'Option "NoTrapSignals" "true"' from xorg.conf, do you want another backtrace with that enabled?
[13:17] <jcristau> shouldn't make a difference
[13:19] <Bernardo> ok, anything you want me to patch jusk ask.
[13:20] <tseliot> sure
[13:22] <lucazade> is it th same issue? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=580119
[13:27] <jcristau> i don't think so.  not sure though.
[13:28] <jcristau> that one is a hang, not a segv, and it's using intel, not psb (which means not exa).
[13:36] <Bernardo> leaving now, I'll be back in a couple of hours
[13:58] <tseliot> lucazade: can you reproduce the problem if you set Option "MigrationHeuristic" to "always" instead of "greedy"?
[13:58] <tseliot> in your xorg.conf, that is
[14:00] <tseliot> Bernardo|away: ^^
[15:37] <Bernardo> tseliot: ok, will try now
[15:37] <tseliot> thanks
[15:39] <Bernardo> with always it will crash on kdm login screen
[15:39] <Bernardo> let me check the core
[15:39] <tseliot> Bernardo: also, please try "smart" instead of "always"
[15:40] <Bernardo> http://pastebin.com/MNgfDDLg
[15:40] <Bernardo> that is for always
[15:40] <Bernardo> I'll try smart now
[15:40] <jg> bryceh: so a smoke test on the RS600 rotation bug passed; KMS doesn't work on it.
[15:42] <Bernardo> http://pastebin.com/qN63Zgab
[15:42] <bryceh> jg, the smoke test passed with KMS off, but failed with it on?
[15:42]  * tseliot has a look at the log
[15:43] <Bernardo> with smart I don't even get a graphic, only a flashing cursor on the top left
[15:43] <tseliot> ah, ok
[15:44] <Bernardo> but X is started, according to the backtrace I posted
[15:50] <jg> bryceh: doesn't work at all with kms on.  rotate works with kms off.
[15:51] <jg> bryceh: as X wont run at all on KMS on the chip, rotation is moot.
[15:51] <jg> (nor does the console work with kms enabled).
[16:07] <jg> bryceh: also, I have a brand-spanking, new HP Elitebook 2540p notebook; neither Ubuntu nor Fedora will install on it.  ajax took a look; it appears to be the first eDP laptop in captivity he's heard of.  What is happening from the conversation ajax and keithp had is that the X server is trying to set the frequency on the eDP internal panel, that it should not mess with, and loses.  Ironically, if I plug an external panel into the external DP connector, it drives ju
[16:07] <jg> st fine (but it's hard to install when you can't see what you are doing, short of a text based install).
[16:07] <jg> bryceh: I haven't had a chance to catch up with ajax to see if he has a patch yet.
[16:26] <Bernardo> tseliot: anything else?
[16:28] <Sarvatt> jg: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2010-May/006847.html -- doesn't look promising though https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28070
[16:28] <tseliot> Bernardo: no, thanks. I think we'll have to settle with "greedy" then. I'm wondering what can be causing that null pointer...
[17:19] <Bernardo> tseliot: the bug seems similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/539772 but I am already using the packages from bryceh that should fix that
[17:27] <tseliot> Bernardo: while I don't think it's the same problem I think I can try a similar solution by checking that the pointer in the source drawable is not null
[17:28] <tseliot> I need to look more into this issue
[17:29] <Bernardo> Ok, if you want me to test that, I'm here.
[17:35] <tseliot> Bernardo: ah, did you say that you're already using the xserver from ppa:bryceharrington/purple ?
[17:35] <Bernardo> yes
[17:35] <Bernardo> When I first got a backtrace, I googled for something similar, and found that
[17:36] <tseliot> aah, ok
[17:36] <Bernardo> tried to see if it fixed the problem, but it didn't
[17:36] <tseliot> as I thought, it's a different problem
[17:36] <Bernardo> but at least it gave me debug symbols for xorg-core
[17:36] <tseliot> but it's still useful as a reference
[17:36] <Bernardo> I thought as much
[18:08] <tseliot> Bernardo: I've written a patch so as to check that point earlier. I'm trying to build X here before I upload to a PPA
[18:08] <tseliot> s/point/pointer/
[18:22] <tseliot> Bernardo: please try 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu8~lp539772tseliot1 when it's built: https://launchpad.net/~albertomilone/+archive/ppa
[18:23] <Bernardo> tseliot: sure
[18:23] <Bernardo> thanks!
[18:23] <tseliot> thanks for testing
[18:28] <Bernardo> ok, seems like all three (common, core, and core-dbg) are there, so I'll install them now
[18:29] <tseliot> great
[18:29] <Bernardo> starting x without shadowfb...
[18:29] <tseliot> Bernardo: wait it says that it's still building here
[18:30] <tseliot> make sure that the version ends with tseliot1
[18:30] <Bernardo> Ah... I got the ones without. Only looked at 539772. Doh...
[18:30] <tseliot> https://launchpad.net/~albertomilone/+archive/ppa/+build/1738412 
[18:31] <tseliot> Bernardo: the packages seem to be available here ^^
[18:31] <Bernardo> Yes, they are just awaiting publication, I'll try downloading from there
[18:31] <tseliot> ok
[18:34] <Bernardo> installing now
[18:35] <tseliot> good
[18:36] <Bernardo> still crashes... :(
[18:37] <Bernardo> http://pastebin.com/jaTCqM1g
[18:38]  * tseliot has a look at the log
[18:57] <lucazade> Bernardo: anything to test?
[19:01]  * tseliot -> dinner
[19:20]  * Bernardo just finished dinner... :)
[19:20] <Bernardo> lucazade: tseliot made a patch to try to fix the crash, but unfortunately it wasn't successful
[19:44] <lucazade> Bernardo ok 
[20:17] <tseliot> Bernardo|away, lucazade: I've just uploaded another patch (make sure you install 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu8~lp539772tseliot2) https://launchpad.net/~albertomilone/+archive/ppa
[20:18] <lucazade> xorg-server ?
[20:18] <tseliot> yep, it hasn't been built yet though
[20:19] <lucazade> add the ppa and update?
[20:20] <tseliot> yes, when the package are ready
[20:20] <tseliot> packages
[20:20] <lucazade> ok i'l wait
[20:20] <tseliot> thanks
[20:28] <lucazade> tseliot failed to build
[20:32] <tseliot> let me check
[20:34] <tseliot> I found the problem... let me fix it
[20:34] <lucazade> ok
[20:41] <tseliot> lucazade: ok, re-uploaded (~lp539772tseliot3)
[20:41] <lucazade> tseliot perfect
[20:42] <lucazade> i'm in queue as the package
[20:44] <tseliot> ok
[20:56] <Bernardo> tseliot, lucazade: I see we have another patch to test?
[20:56] <tseliot> Bernardo: I'd be glad if you could test ~lp539772tseliot3 too
[20:56] <tseliot> it's still building
[20:56] <Bernardo> ok, I'll wait... gnawing my finger nails...
[20:57] <tseliot> :-)
[20:59] <Sarvatt> jcristau: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/xenocara/driver/xf86-video-intel/
[20:59] <Sarvatt> (if you didn't find it yet)
[21:00] <tseliot> Bernardo, lucazade: https://launchpad.net/~albertomilone/+archive/ppa/+build/1738531
[21:01] <lucazade> tseliot refreshed ppa but still display tseliot1.. maybe some mins
[21:01] <Bernardo> ok, going to download it
[21:02] <tseliot> yes, they haven't been published yet
[21:02] <lucazade> ok
[21:03] <Bernardo> installing...
[21:04] <LaMs> Hey guys, thanks for working on the poulsbo stuff for Lucid
[21:04] <Bernardo> testing now...
[21:05] <Bernardo> tseliot: I think you got it!
[21:05] <Bernardo> yes!
[21:05] <Bernardo> didn't crash as usual, and 3d works
[21:05] <lucazade> grande Alberto
[21:06] <LaMs> Wow ! Does that mean that I'll get 3D on my mini 10 with that guys ?
[21:06] <Bernardo> glblur gives 16.6 fps
[21:06] <tseliot> Bernardo, lucazade: really?
[21:06] <Bernardo> 19.9 with overclocking
[21:07] <Bernardo> still one problem wth bitmaps
[21:07] <lucazade> still installing here
[21:07] <Bernardo> the eee-control tray icon is empty, the kde native ones show
[21:07] <Bernardo> LaMs: thank tselliot for it
[21:08] <Bernardo> I just ported stuff from mandriva, tseliot seems to have found the main problem with 3d
[21:08] <LaMs> tselliot: I understand that you are the one who made 3d possible, so a big thank you !
[21:08] <jcristau> Sarvatt: oga gave me a link to his openbsd git repo, thanks
[21:08] <Sarvatt> ricotz: huh did linux - 2.6.34-2.8 fail to build? I copied that over a few hours ago but your linux - 2.6.34-2.7~lucid~ricotz1 is in there?
[21:09] <tseliot> LaMs: it seems that (much to my surprise) I have worked around the problem, yes
[21:09] <Bernardo> tseliot: can I make the announcement on the ubuntuforums thread to tell people to add the ppa, or do you want do hold or do it yourself?
[21:09] <LaMs> I can test for you guys and I may help a little bit if needed. I'm an embedded developer here at work and have some experience with kernel driver
[21:09] <tseliot> Bernardo, lucazade: I can make my patch smaller so that RAOF can adopt it
[21:10] <LaMs> Just don't have any experience with Xorg at all
[21:10] <tseliot> Bernardo: sure, go ahead
[21:10] <Bernardo> LaMs: add the gma500 ppa (or run lucazade's script), then add alberto milone's ppa ( https://launchpad.net/~albertomilone/+archive/ppa) and upgrade
[21:10] <ricotz> Sarvatt, yeah 2.8 has a wrong ABI folder and failed, there is no real difference to 2.7
[21:10] <lucazade> lams kernel 2.6.34 break psb-kernel-source
[21:10] <lucazade> LaMs
[21:11] <Sarvatt> theres a fix for 2.6.34 on the intel-gfx lists
[21:11] <LaMs> lucazade: Is 2.6.34 a kernel that Lucid will support ?
[21:11] <Bernardo> tseliot: thanks a lot. There is still the bitmaps issue, and now we can look at problems with 2.6.34 - but maybe those are solved now
[21:11] <Bernardo> lucazade: how is it going?
[21:11] <Sarvatt> LaMs: nope
[21:11] <lucazade> tseliot icons are not visible
[21:11] <tseliot> Bernardo: bitmaps issue? Do you have a bug report I can look at?
[21:12] <lucazade> but it booted ok
[21:12] <Sarvatt> there will probably be a IEGD release here soon that supports 10.04
[21:12] <Bernardo> the one I just was talking about - eee-control icon isn't visible, all the kde standard ones (which I think are svgs) can be seen
[21:12] <Sarvatt> once meego comes out
[21:12] <Bernardo> Sarvatt: I thought meego will have xorg 1.8?
[21:12] <Sarvatt> yup
[21:13] <Bernardo> So either we use the xorg-edgers ppa, or you guys are planning backporting 1.8 to lucid?
[21:13] <tseliot> a IEGD release would save us a lot of work
[21:14] <jcristau> sigh iegd.  that shit still exists?
[21:14] <Bernardo> if it finally fixes suspend/resume
[21:14] <Sarvatt> no but it'd be trivial for them to support xserver 1.7 if they do 1.8
[21:14] <Bernardo> Sarvatt: if they feel like it
[21:14] <lucazade> tseliot i think bitmap issue is the last one
[21:14] <tseliot> jcristau: do nightmares exist?
[21:15] <Bernardo> tseliot: I thought the nightmare is the gma500/poulsbo itself
[21:15] <tseliot> the driver is the problem
[21:15] <Bernardo> shows you a glimpse of cheap, fast, low power graphics, but with crappy binary blobs tying it down.
[21:15] <Sarvatt> poulsbo is a dream even compared to arm GPU's :D
[21:16]  * Bernardo dabbles wit a zauros for quite some time
[21:16]  * Bernardo has a zaurus C1000 for the taking, if someone wants to play with a old arm system...
[21:17] <tseliot> well I *think* poulsbo and some arm gpus share some intellectual property
[21:18] <Bernardo> Sarvatt: I won't trade my 1101HA for any laptop or netbook costing even 5 times as much. It is light, the right size, and when the drivers work I can watch full hd with it. And even when they don't work that well I can do my work with it.
[21:18] <LaMs> As PowerVR is concerned yes
[21:18] <LaMs> From my readings ...
[21:18] <tseliot> yep
[21:19] <Bernardo> tseliot: I can see other problems, probably bitmap related, progress bars in kde now have a "grey rectangle within darker grey rectangle" background
[21:20] <Bernardo> but the desktop bitmap shows without problems
[21:21] <tseliot> Bernardo: yes, I just worked around the problem by preventing the driver from trying to copy null drawables
[21:21] <lucazade> here on gnome i can't see any icons, wallpapers is visible, glxgears seems to run ok
[21:21] <tseliot> ok
[21:21] <LaMs> lucazade: Any suspicious message in system logs ?
[21:22] <lucazade> let me see if i see any
[21:23] <Bernardo> nothing in dmesg
[21:24] <tseliot> yes, it's an X thing
[21:24] <tseliot> not kernel related
[21:24] <Bernardo> in Xorg.0.log there is the usual "(EE) PSB(0): First SDVO output reported failure to sync or input is not trainded!!!"
[21:24] <Bernardo> nothing much more
[21:25] <Bernardo> the "loading" icon in kde is corrupted
[21:25] <lucazade> Xsession-error nothing, trying to start gnome-session --debug
[21:25] <tseliot> Do you see the corruption after trying to reproduce the previous problem or as soon as you start X?
[21:26] <Bernardo> I only saw corruption now, the usual result is a blank space where a application icon should be
[21:27] <tseliot> ok but as soon as you started X?
[21:27] <Bernardo> as soon as I got the kde desktop
[21:27] <tseliot> ok
[21:27] <Bernardo> another symptom, scrolling in firefox scrolls only a bit of the page, the rest remains
[21:27] <tseliot> I maybe I'm killing sane drawables too
[21:28] <tseliot> let me reduce the patch and rebuild the packages
[21:28] <Bernardo> ok
[21:29] <LaMs> Ok I'm leaving 
[21:29] <LaMs> I'll get back from home with my mini 1010 in hand
[21:29] <LaMs> I've not upgrade it yet
[21:30] <LaMs> chow and great work guys
[21:31] <Bernardo> scrolling in konsole also has problems, only scrolls the last two lines
[21:34] <tseliot> Bernardo, lucazade: ok, I've just uploaded ~lp539772tseliot4 to my ppa
[21:35] <lucazade> tseliot ok
[21:36] <Bernardo> ok
[21:37] <Bernardo> I see the build will start in 10 minutes
[21:40]  * tseliot -> brb
[21:43] <Bernardo> at least vaapi works - fullHD!
[21:43] <lucazade> :D
[22:09] <Bernardo> ok, it just build, so final test...
[22:14] <Bernardo> Still doesn't crash, but scrolling is still broken in firefox and console, and the eee-control icon is still invisible
[22:14] <Bernardo> have to go now, see you guys tomorrow.
[22:14] <Bernardo> good night!
[22:14] <lucazade> see you Bernardo
[22:14] <lucazade> night
[22:14] <Bernardo|away> bye lucazade
[22:14] <lucazade> same issue here
[22:15] <lucazade> tseliot ping
[22:16] <lucazade> i have to go.. 
[22:16] <lucazade> bye
[22:17] <lucazade> lucazade - away
[22:31] <tseliot> Bernardo|away, lucazade: ok, thanks for testing. I'll investigate the issue tomorrow