=== schlaftier_ is now known as schlaftier [02:39] can gparted help reabsorb a partition I set up with another os, instead of reinstalling on the entire disk again? [02:56] Hello === Balsaq is now known as Guest35014 [04:24] Hi, fresh 10.04 install on a X40 and having problems with xorg-intel. Is there a quick way to gen an xorg.conf (ala 'dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg' which nolonger does it)? [04:26] ... I should add I want to disable XV ( Option "XVideo" "0" ) to prevent it crashing my system. [07:35] hi. On 10.04 the xfce panel covers the border of many applications. this didn't happen with 9.10 . is there a way to fix that? [07:37] isn't there an option for that when you right click the panel and configure? [07:37] not in xubuntu [07:37] this is a bug [07:38] try different themes, see if it is theme specific [07:40] charlie-tca: this happens with all the themes [07:41] bug time [07:42] bug against xfwm4, most likely, since that controls the borders and placements [07:44] charlie-tca: I noted a lot of bugs in 10.4 ... they don't appear in 9.10 .... this is strange [07:45] it happens [07:46] there were a lot of changes again, which will create bugs for some people. [07:46] charlie-tca: 9.10 was not so buggy [07:46] charlie-tca: anyway, is there a way to fix the bug for the borders? [07:46] I found it to be more buggy then 10.04 [07:47] I don't know how to fix it. [07:54] in addition there's this hugly bug: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18904 [07:54] I suggest to add it to the topic [07:54] We try hard not to give references to other os bugs [07:55] We got a fix for that already, it will be coming soon [07:56] charlie-tca: how can I fix it? [07:57] the webpage is not very clear [07:59] it suggests to downgrade gtk 2 [07:59] but how can I do that? [08:00] Let me find the Xubuntu bug [08:00] Are you using xubuntu or arch? [08:00] charlie-tca: xubuntu [08:00] then go look at https://launchpad.net/bugs/520118 [08:01] It has the xubuntu specific patch === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [08:03] thanks very much charlie-tca [08:03] You are welcome [08:08] charlie-tca: I have exo_0.3.106-1ubuntu2.diff.gz and exo_0.3.106.orig.tar.gz -----> how can I apply the first (patch) to the second? [08:09] I don't really know. I just wait for the fix [08:14] hi there [08:14] !hi | oiuz [08:14] oiuz: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [08:15] i just installed xubuntu-desktop with apt-get install [08:15] on my ubuntu pc [08:15] the installation not finish successfully [08:16] what was the error message? [08:16] i got this error [08:16] E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. [08:16] and if i run df -h [08:16] and what was the result of running 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' ? [08:17] i got this things [08:17] :~$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/xvda1 2.4G 2.3G 0 100% / [08:17] out of space [08:17] It can't continue because there is no drive space to use [08:18] well my question is [08:18] after that issue my question is [08:18] how to install minimal xubuntu-desktop package ? [08:19] use the alternate cd [08:19] but you will need to delete some stuff first. [08:19] with just less than 1Gb of hard drive ? [08:19] Also, if you already installed Ubuntu, you have a minimal install already [08:19] it is an remote host [08:19] You do not have enough drive space on the partition to install the xubuntu and ubuntu desktops [08:20] how many space do i need for the installation ? [08:20] I would guess about 3.5GB for both packages [08:21] we can't do installation something like [08:21] "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop without openoffice, withoutuncessary package, etc .... ? [08:22] Xubuntu-desktop does not install those. Ubuntu does [08:22] You installed the ubuntu environment already. [08:22] nevermind [08:22] how to install ubuntu like that ? [08:23] Xubuntu-desktop does not want oo.o and other stuff. Xubuntu uses about 1.5GB of drive space, Ubuntu uses about 3.5GB [08:23] I have never tried a minimal Ubuntu installation. You should be able to do that using the alternate image cd, though [08:25] but you can't understand one thing i try to explain, maybe you don't know what that it means [08:26] my ubuntu pc is an remote host i can access physically on the device part [08:26] You seem to want Xubuntu instead of Ubuntu, or do you want both desktops? [08:27] i just only want to have a webgui interface for my linux ( ubuntu ) [08:27] for now i can only access to pc only by terminal [08:28] So, it has the server version installed, right? [08:28] yes [08:28] !webmin [08:28] webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead. [08:28] !ebox [08:28] ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox [08:29] Maybe that would be better with the limited partition you have [08:29] It gives you a gui instead of the terminal, but uses very little space [08:32] this is what i got [08:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/432621/ [08:34] get rid of the period in front of ^ [08:34] It should read exactly like this - sudo apt-get install “^ebox-.*” [08:36] no [08:36] According to the wiki page, it must [08:36] it is not exactly [08:36] The quotes allow you use the wildcard [08:37] The . you put in front says install a hidden file, which it should not be [08:39] ok what is the right command [08:39] can i do sudo apt-get install ebox [08:39] ? [08:39] sudo apt-get install “^ebox-.*” [08:40] Go to the wiki and read this page - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox [08:40] You should not need the ppa part [08:41] when i paste this on the terminal sudo apt-get install “^ebox-.*” i got this sudo apt-get install .^ebox-.*. [08:42] is that normal ? [08:42] Maybe for the language settings. just use backspace and arrows to remove the extra .'s and then add the double quote [08:44] arrow ? [08:44] cursor keys? [08:44] which one , [08:45] idon't understand [08:45] have to remove the . in front and in back of ^ebox-.* [08:46] leave that one [08:46] i got software center [08:46] erase the .^ebox-.*. and type the right part - "^ebox-.*" [08:46] installed on my box [08:46] can i do the installation from software center ? [08:46] You have software center on the server? [08:47] yes [08:47] search for ebox then and install from it [08:52] plz wait [08:52] software center not working right i try to troubleshoot [08:52] Did you delete anything from the hard drive? [08:53] If it is still at 100%, it won't install anything [08:53] yes i tried to remove xubuntu-desktop [08:53] !puregnome [08:53] If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get --purge remove kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » into a !terminal [08:55] Maybe try sudo apt-get --purge remove xfce* [09:01] thanks charlie-tca [09:01] i got leave tu [09:01] You are welcome [09:01] good luck [10:43] Hello, i have an older pentium 3 notebook (1.0Ghz & 256MB ram) - Xubuntu 8.04 runs just great on it. [10:44] I've upgraded to the new lts version but the system is real slow [10:44] do you know if 10.04 needs really a lot more resources than 8.04? [10:44] Yes, the newer version is slower on 256MB ram [10:45] It would prefer 384MB, I think [10:45] this laptop is too old for a ram upgrade... [10:46] thank you for the information [10:46] the only reason i've tried to upgrade is [10:46] You might take a look in system monitor and see if you can live without some stuff [10:47] good idea [10:47] ... [10:47] okay the only reason for the upgrade [10:47] was the newer evince version [10:47] No ppa? [10:47] my girlfriend studies and she needs to print out [10:48] a lot of papers . Evince on 8.04 sucks at printing out multiple pages on 1 page [10:48] ppa? [10:48] personal package archive in launchpad [10:48] I'm looking now [10:49] for evince? [10:49] yes, sometimes a developer will package the new versions to allow them to run in older releases [10:50] would be great ..... i've looked around for a while but didn't not find something [10:52] Nothing newer than 2.22, which is in Hardy [10:53] thanks :/ [10:53] Probably has dependencies that can't be back ported [10:53] maybe [10:53] do you know other pdf viewers [10:53] I don't use any [10:53] who offer good print settings [10:53] :) [10:54] evince is the best one that I know of [10:54] !pdf [10:54] pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/okular/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source) [10:55] there is also acrobat, but ugh [10:55] i've tried it [10:55] yup [10:55] and epdfview [10:55] okular I think has printing issues [10:55] but printing did not work as good as with the new evince version [11:00] hi all [11:01] Ihave installed lucid xubuntu 10.04 , how can I setup Radeon 7000/VE ? [11:01] thanx [11:07] Install it using Applications -> system -> Hardware Drivers [11:08] no driver there [11:08] I did try it [11:09] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] [11:09] !radeon [11:09] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [11:09] yes the radeon driver should be already running [11:09] if have an older radeon 7xxx mobile [11:10] and searched after the ubuntu 10.04 upgrade [11:10] for the fglrx [11:10] but it' the radeon instead [11:10] no need for propri. hardware drivers [11:10] I see [11:10] thanx [11:11] root@user1-desktop:/home/user1# glxinfo |grep vendor server glx vendor string: SGI client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc. [11:12] Cali1: is it ok? [11:13] Cali1: Idid install fglrx [11:13] ah okay [11:13] how do i config it? [11:13] if you've installed fglrx and it works [11:14] okay [11:14] k [11:14] thanx [11:14] last time i've tried it [11:14] Ican install compiz? [11:14] it come with xubunutu? [11:14] the system had serious issuees [11:14] normally yes [11:14] how can Icheck it? [11:15] if you have installed the package compiz [11:15] you should be able to install it under the system - settings [11:16] and there somewhere in the visual settings / desktop effects [11:16] ok [11:16] to config fglrx you can try fglrxconfig [11:16] thanx [11:16] I will check it [11:16] for the compiz start [11:16] you can also type in the terminal [11:16] compiz --replace & [11:17] to start compiz === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak [11:18] i'l quit [11:19] k [11:19] thanx [13:39] hi, i'm searching for bluetooth in xubuntu 10.04 [13:40] the bluez-gnome package is not there :( [13:40] !bluetooth [13:40] For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [13:40] It may not be installed by default in Xubuntu [13:41] ok, i take a look on it :) thx [13:51] wow, the bluetooth hardware is gone... before those packages the hcitool scan works [13:51] now the hardware seems to be frozen :( [13:51] ... try a reboot [15:22] hi there [15:22] hello Cali1 [15:24] i had some problems with a slow xubuntu installation yesterday [15:24] and i wanted to use puppy as frugal [15:24] installation on the same sda [15:24] and of course.. i killed the xubuntu installation [15:24] now i've finished the reinstallation [15:25] and xubuntu 10.4 is just as fast as 8.04 was before [15:25] weird [15:25] shame you don't have the old logs anymore [15:25] the only thing i did yesterday was to update after the new installation [15:26] there were updates over 60mb [15:26] now i reduced updates to security-only [15:26] and had just a teX update 112kg [15:26] kb [15:26] if i would have more time [15:27] i would retry to apply all pending updates [15:28] ... but now -> System runs great and won't be touched again (P3 1GHz, 256MB) [15:28] wow [15:30] wowß [15:30] ? [15:30] 256mb ram and its working ok ? [15:31] right now? yes absolutley [15:31] Cali1 visitor1: 256 is fine for Xubuntu, just don't run Firefox. Use Chromium [15:31] i have firefox and abiword running [15:31] or midori [15:31] and 192mb of 244 are in usage [15:31] @arthur: this is the laptop of my girlfriend [15:31] charlie-tca: +1 on that. Midori is getting nice. [15:31] she likes firefox [15:32] Cali1: Once you start hitting flash sites, that memory is going to go out of control. [15:32] i offered her already chromium f.e. but she didn't like it a lot (no master password etc.) [15:32] wait [15:32] let'S test it on youtube .. [15:32] Cali1: Welcome to Swap City, population YOU [15:32] I keep trying to get midori to work for me, but it isn't quite there yet [15:33] charlie-tca: Yeah. I tried to love Midori, but I agree. Not quite there. Soon thou.. [15:33] charlie-tca: I'm using Chromium on my slower machines. [15:33] has anybody tried lubuntu-desktop already? [15:33] Cali1: It doesn't use that much less than Xubuntu [15:33] I downloaded it [15:34] but it is only about 30% lighter than Xubuntu [15:34] charlie-tca: If that. They are still missing a few essential services. [15:34] charlie-tca: Like thunar-volman like service [15:35] Are they using thunar? I thought it might pcfman [15:35] 30% lighter in mb or in ram? [15:35] disk space and ram [15:35] Cali1: Pretty much both. [15:35] 30% can be a lot? [15:35] Cali1: I had Lubuntu running in one VirtualBox and Xubuntu running in another. Only saved about 20 megs of ram. [15:36] That's about right according to the reviews I have read [15:36] XFCE4 and LXDE use the same amount of RAM in the tests that I've run. [15:36] Right around 100 megs. [15:36] thanks [15:37] okay youtube is running [15:37] video is running of course [15:37] 204 of 256mb [15:38] of course the video is not running fluently [15:38] but its ok [15:38] i'm sure [15:39] as soon as i will apply the latest updates to xubuntu 10.04 the slowlyness beginns [15:39] Cali1: Now, try another flash based site, or open a tab and start surfing. That memory will go away pretty quickly. [15:39] Cali1: You can even close the youtube tab. The memory won't free up. [15:39] of couse [15:39] Firefox memory management is brutal [15:39] Cali1: are there a bunch of updates? Maybe apply them one at a time, to find the one slowing it down? [15:39] too much can't be done [15:40] @charlie : my girlfriend needs her laptop back :) [15:40] Cali1: It will also help to close firefox out once in a while, expecially after watching a bunch of videos. [15:40] Okay [15:40] I'll try to reproduce that here, on a desktop system [15:41] I have an 866MHz that I can cut back to 256MB ram and try it [15:42] Cali1: is the swap file bigger than the memory? [15:42] yes [15:42] memory 256mb - swap 729 [15:43] mb [15:43] okay [15:43] I will try to reproduce this weekend [15:43] and at the moment the swapiness was turned down to 10 (on the fly) [15:43] i want to test out whart [15:43] what's better [15:44] for a small amount of ram [15:45] .... AND ... i've ordered an additionell so-dimm 256 for this old but still nive evo n600c notebook [15:45] are you often here in the xubuntu irc? [15:46] who? me? [15:46] yes [15:47] so i'll know the results of your test [15:47] 5-6 days a week, but normally from about 12:00 noon UTC to 18:00 or 19:00 UTC [15:47] ok :) [15:48] another information: i deactivated the "load gnome runtime at startup" in the start up/session settings [15:48] yup [15:48] got to get as close to what you have as possible [15:48] added applications? [15:49] right now none [15:50] ext4 [15:50] first time i tried this filesystem today [15:50] Okay [15:50] What was the filesystem yesterday? still ext4? [15:50] no ext3 [15:51] :) [15:51] If you scroll a background window, it is brought forward. This behaviour is new (and somewhat annoying) to me. Can I disable it? [15:51] and i deactivated also the tty2-6 [15:51] consoles [15:51] nothing else [15:51] poop23: Applications -> Settings -> Window Manager, Focus [15:52] Cali1: might have been ext3 doing it for some reason. How big a partition? [15:52] 27gb [15:52] its a 40 gb ide [15:52] drive [15:52] with 12gb winXp [15:53] 27gb Xubuntu [15:53] Okay [15:53] and the rest (729mb) swap [15:53] charlie-tca: There's no "stop doing that thing where you raise windows when i just scroll in them" [15:53] lol [15:54] poop23: unchecked "Raise on focus" ? [15:54] there's just "raise on click", which i want anyway [15:54] charlie-tca: it is unchecked [15:54] Raise on focus means if the mouse hovers on the window [15:54] yeah [15:54] Above that, Focus model should be "Click to focus" [15:55] it... is [15:55] i'll quit - thanks and see you during the next days [15:55] the only difference is that now a window is brought to top when i scroll in it, which i don't think used to happen [15:55] it sounds like just one line of code was added somewhere, without the option to disable it :P [15:56] Are you on 10.04 or 9.10? [15:56] 10.04 [15:58] Straight xubuntu installation? [16:01] poop23: If that is a Xubuntu installation, without gnome, can you file a bug on it and include the things I asked you? [16:01] Subscribe me [16:01] i'm not sure it's without gnome [16:02] i actually installed nautilus at one point cause thunar had this weird thing where if i double clicked to enter a folder, i couldn't do anything there anymore and had to Ctrl+N to continue working [16:02] but if i used the keyboard to move around it worked fine [16:03] I don't think that should matter [16:03] go ahead and file it [16:03] where? lol [16:03] ubuntu-bug xfwm4 [16:03] I think the window manager should be responsible for that [16:04] but wait [16:04] are you on xubuntu too? [16:04] yes [16:04] just try scrolling up or down any window in the background [16:04] does it stay in the background? [16:05] consistent, isn't it/ [16:07] Still got to be filed and confirmed [16:07] I can file it later today [16:16] poop23: Is that a 386 or 64bit? [16:17] I can not reproduce the focus issue on my PIII here [16:25] poop23: found the settings to make it stop focusing [16:26] oh yay [16:27] Applications -> settings -> Window Manager Tweaks, Accessibility, uncheck "Raise windows when any mouse button is pressed" [16:27] Don't even need to log out. It is immediate [16:34] Apparently, the scroll wheel movement is a "mouse button pressed" [16:59] ahh! [16:59] awesome :D [16:59] thank you [17:57] all: anyone an idea how to deal with 2 bateries in an notebook? [17:58] so how to configure when automaticly switching between them and how to chose manualy? [18:09] samsa: I'm not sure, I've never used a dual-battery laptop. [19:03] hello [19:04] Somebody who could assist me? I have a problem with Xubuntu [19:05] in fact I plug my USB key, and nothing it not on the computer [19:06] Anthoo: Thats a known issue, here is the fix... [19:07] Edit your /etc/rc.local file ( gksu mousepad /etc/rc.local ) [19:07] And put /usr/sbin/hald in it before "exit 0" [19:07] Reboot and you will be all set. [19:07] Make sure you save your changes thou [19:11] I put before exit 0, I put this: / usr / sbin / hald ?? [19:12] arthurjohnson: ? [19:12] Anthoo: without spaces, exactly like arthurjohnson told you: /usr/sbin/hald [19:13] Anthoo: Exactly like I told you [19:13] schlaftier: Thanks [19:14] arthurjohnson: by the way, I have hald running even though it is not in my /etc/rc.local [19:15] schlaftier: Yeah, with fresh installs of Xubuntu without autologin it works without the rc.local hack [19:16] give it this: http://paste-bin.toile-libre.org//view.php?id=106 ?? [19:16] Anthoo: Yup, just like that [19:16] Anthoo: Save your changes, reboot, and all will be right with the world. [19:17] arthurjohnson: I see. I always thought autologin was a bad thing ;-) [19:19] schlaftier: Well, technically yeah [19:23] it works:) thank you very much [19:24]