[00:10] <BUGabundo> Amaranth: around ?
[00:11] <BUGabundo> Amaranth: I have an user asking for expose _per_ app windows
[00:11] <BUGabundo> like macos does
[00:11] <Amaranth> BUGabundo: Set the scale plugin window group keybinding
[00:12] <Amaranth> it'll try to do what you want, anyway
[00:12] <BUGabundo> thanks
[00:12] <BUGabundo> missed it
[00:17] <BUGabundo> Amaranth: one more question: what happen to the plugin that resized every app window to fit all of them side by side ?
[00:18] <Amaranth> maximumize or whatever?
[00:18] <BUGabundo> no idea
[00:18] <Amaranth> it's in compiz-fusion-plugins-extra still, isn't it?
[00:18] <BUGabundo> I remember it being in scale plugin
[00:18] <Amaranth> no
[00:18] <Amaranth> it's a separate plugin
[00:18] <Amaranth> maximumize
[00:18] <BUGabundo> let me dig it up
[00:19] <BUGabundo> humm can't capture default keybind
[00:20] <BUGabundo> it opens the Indicator o,O
[00:20] <BUGabundo> ohh now we have two CLOCKS?
[00:20] <BUGabundo> wth
[00:21] <BUGabundo> Amaranth: can't make it work, even with a new shortcut ?
[00:21] <BUGabundo> s/?/!/
[00:24] <BUGabundo> Amaranth: minimize does work... but not maximize :(
[00:52] <mxe5> Hi - When I highlight 3 or 4 folders of files on a USB thumb drive I have plugged in - I right click on them and it gives me an option to Home Folder or Desktop - Is there a way to have copy to a specific folder on the desktop ? ?
[00:53] <BUGabundo> no
[00:53] <BUGabundo> just drag
[00:54] <mxe5> BUGabundo; I thought about dragging wasn't sure that would - but great! Will give it a whirl - Thanks...
[00:54] <mxe5> * would work
[00:55] <mxe5> Anyone know of an app you could use that would clone all the stuff on one USB thumb to another USB thumb ?
[00:56] <arand> dd?
[00:56] <mxe5> Basically I want to back up one of my USB thumb drives - has allot of stuff on it I don't want to use.
[00:56] <BUGabundo> rsync -avhX ?
[00:57] <BUGabundo> or as I call it: $ rsyncB
[00:58] <mxe5> BUGabundo; Sorry but did you post the shell command for me to use?
[00:58] <BUGabundo> >-<
[00:59] <jonathonf> heh
[01:13] <wick94> hey guys, i have an idea for a feature tht i was to discuss
[01:13] <wick94> for ubuntu 10.10
[01:14] <red2kic> wick94: What is it?
[01:14] <wick94> ok
[01:14] <BUGabundo> nite every1
[01:14] <wick94> i was wondering if it will b possible add a "close" button to the ubuntu notications
[01:15] <kklimonda> no
[01:15] <kklimonda> there is no close button by design
[01:15] <wick94> bt isnt it possible to add it
[01:15] <arand> wick94: If you vanquish Mark SShuttleworth in an epic duel to the death, maybe.
[01:15] <wick94> arand haha, lol
[01:15] <crdlb> when you hover over the notification, it fades away
[01:16] <crdlb> how could that possibly support a close button?
[01:16] <wick94> crdlb i know it fades away bt if u remove ur cursor frm it comes back to normal
[01:17] <wick94> it's jst an idea tht jst came to my mind so i thought i'd share wth u guys
[01:17] <kklimonda> wick94: it's possible to add it but a patch like this won't be accepted
[01:17] <arand> wick94: The design team has explicitly said that "this is the way it is, now GO AWAY!", so if you want it, making it yourself is your best bet.
[01:17] <crdlb> yeah, that idea is living in the bottom of a well along with indicator tooltips
[01:17] <BUGabundo> crdlb: doesn't fade way... fades in... returns on mouse over
[01:17] <wick94> oh ok
[01:18] <wick94> i m not coder unfortunately
[01:18] <wick94> jst a teenage ubuntu fanatic
[01:18] <crdlb> BUGabundo: what do you mean?
[01:18] <arand> wick94: Many are :)
[01:18] <BUGabundo> I mean I should have been in bed 1h ago
[01:18] <BUGabundo> BYE
[01:19] <virtuald> crdlb: are you saying there's never going to be volume indicator tooltips?
[01:20] <arand> virtuald: Likely not.
[01:20] <virtuald> ok
[01:20] <virtuald> there's got to be something because the current behavior makes it unusable
[01:22] <arand> As part of an adaptation to tuch interfaces, no tooltips makes a lot of sense, as for the current desktop, it's stupid, but that is how I feel about a lot of the design decisions, so, meh.
[01:23] <virtuald> luckily awn has a systray app where i can make the icons the same size as all others
[11:36] <BUGabundo_remote> so who bright idea it was to move the clock to an indicator too?
[11:36] <BUGabundo_remote> it doesn't even have Calendar :(
[11:38] <Ian_Corne> eww
[11:39] <BUGabundo_remote> ill file a bug latter today
[11:39] <BUGabundo_remote> the font is smaller the my System have
[11:39] <BUGabundo_remote> now I have TWO clocks
[11:39] <BUGabundo_remote> the new indicator one has ZERO settings :(
[11:40] <Ian_Corne> I think they're moving towards 0config
[11:40] <Ian_Corne> no?
[11:41] <BUGabundo_remote> "they" have been for two cycles, now
[11:41] <BUGabundo_remote> hey hey cwillu
[11:41] <BUGabundo_remote> what are you doing off bed on a Friday ?
[11:41] <cwillu_at_work> poke poke :)
[11:41] <cwillu_at_work> not entirely sure
[11:42] <cwillu_at_work> although my work desktop is now running lucid
[11:42] <cwillu_at_work> I may even get wild and update my server at some point :p
[11:42] <cwillu_at_work> had to hack Radiance up though, the panel background is ug-ly with vertical panels
[11:43] <Ian_Corne> kernel 2.6.34 in repo now
[11:43] <kklimonda> BUGabundo_remote: I'm pretty sure they know it should have calendar and the current version is just a placeholder
[11:44]  * kklimonda remembers slides from sabdfl's keynote
[11:45] <jpds> http://videos.ubuntu.com/uds/maverick/
[11:45] <Ian_Corne> thanks
[11:45] <arand> BUGabundo_remote: That on unity?
[11:46] <BUGabundo_remote> WTH.. download PortableUbuntu; run 1st time; see alert you the filesystem hasn't been checked in 429 day; force check! DUH
[11:46] <kklimonda> :D
[11:46] <BUGabundo_remote> Ian_Corne: I want .35 :D
[11:47] <BUGabundo_remote> arand one thing: FAST
[11:47] <BUGabundo_remote> very very fast
[11:47] <cwillu_at_work> .34 is still rc isn't it?
[11:47] <BUGabundo_remote> gets a bit confused with multiple windows of the same kind
[11:47] <yofel> well, with .34 I can finally see if it's acutally possible to get TRIM working, it's supposed to be supported
[11:47] <arand> No, slow, very very slow.
[11:47] <BUGabundo_remote> like nautilus or gnome-terminals
[11:47] <yofel> after I finish looking at aptitude-gtk
[11:47] <arand> If on VBox
[11:48] <arand> It needs graphics accel, don't it?
[11:49] <BUGabundo_remote> maybe
[11:49] <BUGabundo_remote> I ran it on my laptop
[11:49] <BUGabundo_remote> shame I can't make GDM login twice my user :(
[12:47]  * shadeslayer wonders if we ISO's yet
[12:47] <shadeslayer> +have
[12:52] <BUGabundo_remote> no
[12:52] <BUGabundo_remote> alpha1 only, I think
[12:52] <BUGabundo_remote> let me check
[12:52] <BUGabundo_remote> !daily
[12:52] <BUGabundo_remote> not yet
[12:54] <yofel> there's a forum thread about that too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1477079 got a bit off topic though
[15:03] <ctfxr> hi
[15:03] <ctfxr> how can i the alt tab fearture of vista/7 in ubuntu?
[15:04] <ctfxr> *feature
[15:04] <BUGabundo_lunch> ctfxr: super+tab?
[15:04] <BUGabundo_lunch> its already there in compiz
[15:05] <BUGabundo_lunch> you can change the shortcut
[15:05] <BUGabundo_lunch> and can switch from the kind of view
[15:05] <BUGabundo_lunch> you can have the cascate slide like W7 or how it does by default
[15:06] <gotunandan> ctfxr, yes super+tab
[15:07] <gotunandan> ctfxr you can change how it looks. Download the compizconfig-settings-manager and see the "shift switcher" and "ring switcher " settings
[15:08] <BUGabundo_lunch> thanks form complementing my anwser
[15:47]  * BUGabundo_lunch loves cssh 192.168.2.$i 
[15:48] <ctfxr> thanks guys for answering my question
[16:38] <BUGabundo_remote> rt @popey: ubuntu 10.10 'may' have btrfs as the default filesystem.. _may_ #uds
[16:38] <gotunandan> It will certainly be available but not default, very unlikely
[16:38] <gotunandan> I am listening to the audio feed
[16:38] <BUGabundo_remote> rt @popey: ubuntu 10.10 will drop i386 and i486, will be i686 upwards only. Lucid still supports them as LTS. #uds
[16:39] <kklimonda> good
[16:40] <BUGabundo_remote> we better get ready for all the freetards coming here saying it doesn run
[16:40] <BUGabundo_remote> I wonder if stuff like xubuntu will drop it too
[16:40] <BUGabundo_remote> charlie is not around to ask
[16:41] <kklimonda> well, xubuntu and lubuntu use same builders and same packages so probably yes
[16:41] <BUGabundo_remote> I know
[16:42] <BUGabundo_remote> rt @popey: #ubuntu 10.10 will have 2.6.35 linux kernel, pushing more kernel patches upstream, help users debug kernel issues.
[16:43] <BUGabundo_remote> rt @popey: #ubuntu 10.10 will have 2.6.35 linux kernel, pushing more kernel patches upstream, help users debug kernel issues.
[16:43] <BUGabundo_remote> oops
[16:43] <kklimonda> btrfs optional but fully supported, right?
[16:43] <BUGabundo_remote> it says "maybe" default
[16:43] <gotunandan> probably
[16:43] <gotunandan> supported most probably
[16:43] <BUGabundo_remote> we already have support
[16:43] <BUGabundo_remote> just not from the installer
[16:43] <gotunandan> default, I really doubt it
[16:44] <gotunandan> hmm true
[16:44] <kklimonda> BUGabundo_remote: well, for me it's not supported as long as I can't use it for my root and /boot ;)
[16:46] <joaopinto> brtfs as default is a desire not an expectation :)
[16:47] <BUGabundo_remote> ahah
[16:48] <joaopinto> ecryptfs+brtfs as default
[16:49] <BUGabundo_remote> ahaahahahaahahahahahahah
[16:49] <BUGabundo_remote> crazy man
[16:49] <BUGabundo_remote> you are worse then gouki
[17:34] <arand> The update-notifier/tomboy block, is that one simply due to the archive not moving at the moment?
[17:35] <jpds> archive not moving?
[17:37] <jpds> arand: Howso?
[17:39] <manhunter> is there any development version for ubuntu ?
[17:39] <jpds> manhunter: maverick.
[17:40] <manhunter> how to get this iso?
[17:40] <arand> both tomboy and update-notifier is blocking on gconf2 version, and have been for a day or two, was just wondering if that is simply due to a bit of slowdown per UDS or if it's an actual issue somewhere?
[17:40] <arand> manhunter: No iso until alpha1 I think
[17:41] <arand> manhunter: edit sources and aptit.
[17:41] <manhunter> no, i want to get ubuntu current or development version
[17:41] <manhunter> that has no end of life
[17:41] <arand> manhunter: Doesn't exist.
[17:42] <manhunter> arand: what mirror to add in sources.list
[17:42] <manhunter> ?
[17:42] <arand> manhunter: or? You'll have to decide I'm afraid...
[17:42] <bazhang> no end of life?
[17:42] <arand> manhunter: Backup everything, substitute lucid for maverick, and expect everything to go horribly wrong in the process.
[17:43] <bazhang> Lucid is current, and LTS
[17:44] <manhunter> is there anything like mandriva cooker ?
[17:44] <manhunter> for ubuntu?
[17:45] <BUGabundo_remote> no
[17:45] <BUGabundo_remote> serioulsy, manhunter, Ubuntu isn't for you
[17:45] <BUGabundo_remote> or you haven't gotten the concept
[17:46] <manhunter> BUGabundo_remote: why?
[17:46] <BUGabundo_remote> all the questions you have be making
[17:46] <BUGabundo_remote> specially in *this* channel
[17:47] <manhunter> BUGabundo_remote: why is ubuntu not for me?
[17:49] <sebsebseb> manhunter: oh you use Mandriva?
[17:50] <sebsebseb> manhunter: Mandriva Cooker is basically the development version of Mandriva,  that they keep on doing changes to, and then release the stable's
[17:50] <sebsebseb> Ubuntu isn't like that
[17:50] <sebsebseb> instead they take Debian basically, do their changes,  and release development versions of Ubuntu
[17:50] <sebsebseb> and then the final comes out
[17:50] <joaopinto> Maverick is Ubuntu's Cooker for this release :P
[17:50] <BUGabundo_remote> erk
[17:50] <sebsebseb> JanC_: sort of
[17:50] <BUGabundo_remote> not exactly
[17:50] <sebsebseb> no not you JanC_
[17:50] <sebsebseb> joaopinto: sort of
[17:51] <sebsebseb> manhunter: have a look at the merick release scheduled to understand, how an Ubuntu release is done
[17:51] <sebsebseb> meverick above
[17:53] <jpds> manhunter: Which mirror? Whichever you like (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors).
[17:54] <sebsebseb> manhunter: ok I understand you, you want something like Mandriva Cooker, that you can just use until the end of the distro
[17:54] <sebsebseb> that will keep on being udpated, and updated, and updated, and updated
[17:55] <sebsebseb> manhunter: Ubuntu isn't done like this
[17:58] <sebsebseb> manhunter: PC Linux OS is a Mandriva fork, and I believe that could be what your after
[17:58] <manhunter> sebsebseb: thank you.
[17:58] <manhunter> bye
[18:00] <BUGabundo_remote> bye
[18:00] <BUGabundo_remote> be back tomorrow