=== muzha is now known as paultag_ === tenach_ is now known as tenach === ZachK_1 is now known as ZachK_ === compiledkernel is now known as Guest79871 [02:56] hola [03:05] hi nigelbabu [03:51] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/switching/index.html the link is working [03:51] it should be noticed to the ubuntu site controller [03:51] Is there any one who have used "Remastersys"? [03:52] I am having some trouble using it [03:53] The backup tool? [03:54] Chesamo: yes [03:54] Chesamo: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/remastersys this is the tutorial [03:54] shahan: Ah. I'm not too familiar with it, I just wanted to clarify. Sorry :C [03:55] Chesamo: ok [03:55] Shahan: Oh, are you habing trouble with the tutorial? [03:55] having* [03:55] Chesamo: yes [03:55] shahan: What seems to be the problem? [03:56] "Then copy the appropriate settings directories to the /etc/skel directory." check this line [03:56] Chesamo: in that tutorial [03:57] shahan: Okay? What's the problem [03:57] shahan: ooooohhhh, it doesn't say WHAT directories to copy, does it? [03:57] Chesamo: have u read the line? [03:57] Chesamo: in that tutorial? [03:57] Chesamo: yes... [03:58] shahan: You can see the hidden files, yes? The . ? [03:58] Chesamo: what is "appropriate settings directory"? [03:58] shahan: It wants you to back up your program settings, which are located in . [03:58] shahan: FireFox and ThunderBird are stored in .mozilla [03:59] Chesamo: hmm [03:59] shahan: So you have to figure out which settings you want to keep after running remastersys [03:59] Chesamo: not clear yet!!! [03:59] Chesamo: ok let me give u a screen shot [04:00] shahan: For ease, I recommend http://imgur.com/ since the links are shorter [04:05] Chesamo: Thunderbird is in .thunderbird [04:06] Appl6: Oh, I'm sorry. That's what I get for trying to troubleshoot and not being on Ubuntu. [04:07] Chesamo: Saying it was certainly more helpful than not saying it; I was just letting you know (I got here a little too late to tell him though). [04:07] Appl6: Yeah, pinging out is not fun. Thanks though. [04:28] I want "ApTon CD" .deb with full dependencies (already got from sourcforge without dpendencies)... [04:28] want a copy.... just double clicking installation [04:30] shahan, don't know how to do that. what I use to do is: [04:30] download the .deb but from the ubuntu rep, and check there all the dependencies and download them too [04:30] malev: tell me plz... [04:32] malev: I am a new user.... dont know how to download from rep. and check the dependencies is ok [04:32] it's a website [04:32] ubuntu deb something [04:33] nalev, shahan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ [04:33] malev* [04:33] Chesamo, that is the one! [04:33] Chesamo: tnx [04:34] shahan, malev: You're welcome. It's very handy if you're having dependency issues [04:34] Chesamo: my internet is making disturb...for this I become disconnected from you, few minutes ago [04:34] shahan: It's okay [04:35] Sounds like you want aptitude -s install PKG and then write stuff down. [04:35] Chesamo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/utils/ I am not getting the AptonCD there [04:36] I need a program that will connect my Olympus camera [it uses XD cards] with my Lucid install [04:36] ty [04:36] ANY program will do, as long as I can get to the files [04:37] shahan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/aptoncd [04:37] Phrea: Try F-Spot [04:37] tried [04:37] doesnt work [04:37] first thing I tried [04:37] gimp wont see it either [04:37] Phrea: What model? [04:37] :o [04:37] euh... [04:38] lemme see :D [04:38] Camedia C-5000 [04:38] something like that [04:39] Phrea: http://diplodrivers.com/download-driver/OLYMPUS/C-5000 Select "Linux Ubuntu" [04:39] there's no other way? [04:40] thanks for your input btw !! :) [04:40] Phrea: I'm not familiar with the camera so I don't know [04:40] Phrea: I'm just aggregating a Google search ;-) [04:40] as long as I can get it to connect :) [04:40] thanks man :) [04:41] ChanServ: yea, I know, I was just wondering about some common program that might do the trick [04:41] Phrea: Once you install the driver it *should* be viewable in F-Spot [04:42] Chesamo: ok, thanks [04:42] I'll try it out tomorrow :) [04:44] Chesamo: tnx... Apton Cd is working [04:44] shahan: You're welcome [04:45] I bookmarked the site, I'll first do a remastersys and then try it out :) [04:52] Chesamo: I have restored the item using APTonCD [04:52] but its not installed on my PC [04:52] Chesamo: just restored [04:53] I have restored the item using APTonCD [04:54] but its not installed on my PC [04:54] how can I now use this software? [04:54] which I have restored using APTonCD [04:55] shahan: Yes, I get it. I'm not here at the moment (well, I am right now, but I'm busy and just checking back) [04:55] Chesamo: ok... plz help [04:56] shahan: I'll see if I can get someone else to help you in my absense [04:56] shahan: You have a pleasant and knowledgeable person _wasting_ their free time helping you, and all you can do is be rude and impatient? [04:56] ok [04:57] shahan: I dropped a note in -team, we'll see if anyone responds [04:57] I really have to go now [04:57] ok [04:57] shahan: What is your issue my friend [04:57] Chesamo: ok...tnx for ur help [04:58] That_Wiki_Guy: I have restored the item which I created using APTonCD [04:58] That_Wiki_Guy: this restore has been done by APTonCD [04:58] That_Wiki_Guy: now.... after restore, I dont see the item on my Application>.... [04:59] That_Wiki_Guy: whats the reason? [04:59] What is the application [04:59] That_Wiki_Guy: a lot [05:00] That_Wiki_Guy: VLC, WINE, FILEZILLA, BLUEFISH etc. [05:01] So you installed an application? I'm sorry but you're not being that clear here [05:01] Appl6: sorry!!! [05:01] Appl6: sorry for my behave [05:01] That_Wiki_Guy: r u familiar with APTonCD? [05:01] That_Wiki_Guy: the task which is done by APTonCD? [05:02] That_Wiki_Guy: to clearify I am asking u [05:02] shahan: You should definitely apologize to Chesamo instead of me. [05:02] Appl6: ok [05:03] AptonCD...no shahan I've not really heard of it... [05:04] That_Wiki_Guy: its a soft. used for storing all the packages you have installed in your PC. Its a backup tool [05:05] That_Wiki_Guy: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/ [05:10] shahan: Hmm... [05:10] That_Wiki_Guy: .. [05:11] shahan: Honestly I've no idea what to tell you...and I cant research it for you as I'm not on my pc at this time [05:11] That_Wiki_Guy: ok no problem [05:11] That_Wiki_Guy: tnx for giving time [05:13] shahan: Certainly...I'll research it asap...but don't despair if nobody cones forward ok? [05:13] That_Wiki_Guy: ok [05:13] That_Wiki_Guy: tnx [05:13] shahan: :D [05:25] Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntu. This will be my first Linux distro. I've burned the iso onto a CD-R using Alcohol 120. When I try to boot from it, it goes to a loading screen, then freezes up on a black screen with a white prompt in the top left (though you can't actually type anything) === Phayt|Failure is now known as Phayt [05:26] Why is this happening, and what can I do to fix it? [05:35] Phayt: What does the loading screen show? [05:36] Phayt: If it doesn't show anything besides that prompt, it may be because you burned the CD as data instead of burning it as an image. [05:37] Appl6: It's an ubuntu loading screen, for sure. It says ubuntu === PabloRubianes_ is now known as PabloRubianes [05:37] hey there [05:37] it goes to the loading screen, then it shows a black screen that says starting isolinux, something about debian, and a copyright [05:37] im trying to save a session [05:38] i looked at google [05:38] then goes to the black screen with the prompt. [05:38] but i cant find where it shows session [05:38] i go to system- preferences- then i cant find it [05:38] Phayt: Yeah, that's definitely the start of the boot process. It's also possible that the ISO you downloaded was corrupted. Did you torrent it, or did you check it's md5sum (or other hash) before burning it? [05:38] its supposed to be system-prefernces-sessions [05:39] im using the newest ubuntu [05:40] i didn't torrent it. Downloaded it from the ubuntu website. It recommended checking the md5sum, but the instructions on how to do so appeared to be how to do so in unix. I don't know how to do it from windows. Is this something I can google and easily find? [05:40] can anyone help [05:42] Phayt: Yes, if you google "windows md5sum" you will get many relevant programs. Unfortunately, I've always had access to Linux, so I never had to use a Windows tool, and therefore cannot recommend any. [05:45] what ever i can see no one cal help [05:45] im out [05:48] alright [05:48] Appl6, still here? [05:48] i just verified the md5sum [05:48] Phayt: Yep. [05:48] the hashes are identical [05:49] Phayt: Hm. It dies so early in the boot process; that doesn't leave you with many options. [05:49] I can try it again while connecting to IRC with my phone [05:49] and tell you exactly what happens in what order [05:49] Phayt: That would be helpful. [05:51] alright, that's my phone [05:51] i'm going to restart [05:51] i've already got it set to boot from cd in the bios, etc [05:53] phaytmobile: OK. [05:53] Alright [05:53] First a reddish screen [05:53] Towards the bottom a battery I think next to a man in a circle I think [05:54] Then the starting isoliniz [05:54] Linux [05:54] And now this blank screen with the prompt [05:55] phaytmobile: That's extremely odd that you see icons that look like Ubuntu X before the ISOLINUX screen. [05:55] The disc is still spinning bit the computer doesn't sound like it's doing anything. [05:55] It alternates between silence and periods of activity [05:55] phaytmobile: You never get a chance to type anything or select anything from a menu? [05:55] No change on the screen. [05:55] Nope. Nothing interactive [05:56] Oh hey [05:56] This is née [05:57] New [05:57] The resolution just increased [05:57] And I can now type [05:57] Help returns nothing [05:57] Neither does die [05:57] D I r I mean [05:58] phaytmobile: In Linux it is "ls" (ell ess). [05:58] Oh. Now it changed again. [05:58] phaytmobile: It sounds like Linux doesn't agree with your video card. But there's a lot you can do about it, provided you can boot =). [05:58] It says ubuntu and there are five dots in a loading pattern. I guess I just have to wait longer. [05:59] Does it always take this long? [06:00] phaytmobile: The five dots are good. No, it usually doesn't take this long, and keep in mind this is significantly slower because it's not only reading off the CD, but it's also doing major decompression on the fly (so they could pack the maximum amount of software on the CD). [06:00] Still at the same screen [06:03] Still here. Does this usually take seconds minutes or hours the first time? [06:03] phaytmobile: Depending on your hardware, I would say it should take at most a few minutes. [06:04] This computer is very old [06:04] Probably six years [06:04] phaytmobile: Oh. Specs? [06:04] Judging by video and sound card [06:04] Not sure off the top of my head [06:05] Would I be better off with a different distro? [06:06] Same screen. [06:07] phaytmobile: Depending on the computer specs, yes. Ubuntu is not a "lean" distribution by any means, though there are lighter derivatives, like Xubuntu. [06:08] phaytmobile: However, the fact that your computer is old is very much to your advantage in terms of hardware support. Linux is much better about supporting hardware that has been out for a while. [06:09] Aha! new screen [06:09] Desktop, I thnk [06:09] Mouse moves [06:09] And now an install dialogue [06:10] Excellent [06:10] Thank you appl [06:10] phaytmobile: You're most welcome. In case you didn't know, you have a live CD environment, meaning that it is a fully functional operating system. [06:11] phaytmobile: You can open Firefox, surf the web, use a word processor, write programs, compose email, chat with Pidgin, and just about anything else. [06:11] phaytmobile: That way you can give it a spin before you go to install it. [06:12] phaytmobile: And don't judge it based on speed, a live CD isn't a fair comparison to an OS that's installed on your hard drive =). [06:26] Alright. New question. [06:26] go ahead an just ask =) [06:26] s/an/and [06:26] I use firefox in windows on this computer. It's not connecting right now. [06:26] This is the demo [06:29] on the live CD, firefox won't connect to the internet at all? are you using wireless or wired internet? [06:29] Wireless [06:30] does the network manager applet in the top panel show that it is connected to the wireless? [06:31] No. Do I need to manually add my connection and s s I d? [06:33] if you click the icon, it should display wireless networks available (if your wireless card is on and supported), so you should just be able to select the network and it will prompt for a WEP/WPA key if needed === swoody_ is now known as swoody [06:34] Not finding any networks [06:35] alright, well some wireless drivers are still proprietary, so try going to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers and see if it finds a driver for your wireless card [06:36] Excellent. Found the dri [06:37] Vers. There are actually two of them. [06:37] whichever is the newest (it should say recommended) but you'll need to be hooked up with a wired connection in order to download the driver =\ [06:38] Can I download the driver in xp? [06:39] And then how do I get this os to find it? [06:39] good question. i don't know if there is a site that has .deb packages of the proprietary drivers [06:40] let me take a look a sec (unless someone else here happens to know) [06:46] ah, looks like restricted packages are still listed in the package archive. phaytmobile: what driver do you need? [06:46] My options are briadcom b43 and briadcom sta [06:47] Broadcom [06:47] is either one of those listed as recommended? [06:47] No [06:53] B43 is listed as free [06:53] Sta as proprietary [06:54] When I try to activate b43 it fAils and says to look at var log jockey.log [06:54] alright, i'm seeing the broadcom sta package, which isn't even in restricted. this will hopefully take care of everything https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/broadcom-sta-common_5.10.91.9.3-3_all.deb [06:55] right, jockey can't download the driver since it doesn't have an internet connection =) [06:55] When I try to activate sta it asks me to rstart [06:55] that doesn't work well on a live CD, didn't think about that =\ [06:56] Alright. So I download the deb file you linked in xp. Then what? [06:56] If I'm satisfied that I can get what I need with this I plan on installing it. [06:56] .deb files work like .exe files on windows. you can just double-click them in ubuntu and it will install it. just not sure if it will require a restart or not [06:56] Oh, I see. [06:57] Alright you've been very helpful [06:57] Thank you. [06:57] anytime =) [06:57] let us know if you have any more questions [06:57] I'm tired and I'm going to sleep. I'll dl the deb file tomorrow. [06:57] Night! [06:57] good night! [07:16] Appl6: fun helping out isn't it [07:17] ZachK_: +1 =) [07:21] ddecator: totally [10:23] Morning [10:33] morning [10:36] mornin leoquant [10:40] morning ZachK_ [10:40] leoquant: how ya been man? [10:55] ZachK_, great thx [10:55] leoquant: cool cool [10:58] ZachK_, has the off. wiki a part bout "broken packages, broken -apt, etc."? [10:58] related to errorcodes? [10:59] leoquant: what? [11:00] : [11:00] 'E:Encountered a section with no Package [11:00] : Eproblem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists [11:00] returned with errorcode1 [11:00] etc? [11:01] : E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. [11:01] very common questions [11:01] with relative easy solutions [11:01] : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1167744 [11:02] i make a list for you [11:02] mail them asap [13:13] i have a network with 4 computers. the 3 of them have ubuntu 10.4. the 4th has winXP. there is also a laser printer connected with usb to one ubuntu computer. The other Ubuntu computers can see it automatically, after i checked the options for sharing. but i cannot see it from the windows machine. Do i have to install samba in the ubuntu pc? in the winXP pc? or is it already installed? thank you [13:40] antigone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP [13:40] Check firewall and all the steps listed there in order, should work without large hassle. === Guest79871 is now known as compiledkernel [14:41] Hi all, I know it's a bit early in the morning but I have a question regarding partitioning. When I ran 'sudo fdisk -l', I noticed I had an unaccounted partition, which was 18 mil blocks and was described as "Extended" as opposed to Linux, swap or NTFS. Any ideas on what that partition is? [14:42] Hello petaloid :) [14:42] Not morning everywhere in the world ;) [14:43] The partition table has room for only four partitions. For more partitions, one of these four partitions can be divided into many smaller partitions, called logical partitions. The original four are then called primary partitions. If a primary partition is subdivided in this way, it is known as an extended primary or extended partition. Typically, the first primary partition will be small ( /dev/hda1, say). The second primary part [14:43] ition will fill the rest of the disk as an extended partition ( /dev/hda2, say). In this case, the entries in the partition table of / dev/hda3 and /dev/hda4 will be blank. The extended partition can be subdivided repeatedly to give /dev/hda5, /dev/hda6, and so on. [14:46] since I have six partitions, would that means that my extended encompasses (in size) at least 2? [14:47] I did a quick check and sda6 and sda5 add up (in terms of blocks) to sda4 [14:49] hmm, even more interesting... the start block for sda6 and the end block of sda5 are the bounds of sda4 as well! [14:50] Silver_Fox_ , thanks! That makes a lot more sense, intuitively as well :D [14:51] No worried ped [14:51] - petaloid [15:03] I have another question! If I wanted to merge two NTFS partitions together, how would I go about that in ubuntu? [15:04] I am not sure how to do that petaloid , it is not something I have ever done personally. [15:04] Sorry [15:04] Perhaps someone else will be able to help you [15:06] that's cool, thanks for your help anyway [15:06] No worries, I am sorry I was not able to assist further [15:06] I'll just continue mucking around on community ubuntu documentation until I find a solution! [15:13] petaloid: no not via the ubuntu live cd, gparted is a minimal/basic tool, on the other hand the gparted live-cd is able to merge ntfs [15:14] the gparted live a "full- featured" (excuse le mot) [15:14] I see, will it work despite the fact that the partitions are not next to each other? [15:15] petaloid: i suggest you backup any important data before trying to merge ntfs partitions [15:15] petaloid: that is a good question, no idea. not an ideal situation [15:16] LzrdKing: always [15:16] gparted might be able to move the partitions next to each other first [15:16] indeed, and never interrupt mergeactions [15:17] leoquant: i used gparted to resize an ntfs partition and i didn't make a backup; of course it was pretty much a bare XP install, but had it gotten munged up, i didn't have a disc to reinstall from [15:18] ok [15:18] I wonder if there is a windows utility that could do this easily... [15:18] LzrdKing: The latest version of GParted does nodestructive merging and resizing... you should still back up your data [15:18] nondestructive* [15:19] petaloid: Nothing on par with the quality and features of GParted ;-) [15:19] Chesamo: Gparted or Gparted-live? [15:19] Petaloid: gparted-live is just gparted dropped onto a Debian install [15:20] petaloid: rather, a Debianl LiveCD [15:21] petaloid: the answer is no; you cannot resize a drive that you've booted from; even partition magic is a boot image that you load independant of your hard drives [15:21] so either way you need a bootable cd [15:22] petaloid: I personally prefer RiP Linux for doing partition work... it has GParted installed on it, and it boots into a base X install instead of a full GNOME desktop, so it's much faster http://rip.7bf.de/current/ [15:24] so my general strategy would be: boot partition cd of some sort, delete one of the ntfs partitions, move the unallocated space next to the other ntfs, resize the other ntfs to the unallocated [15:25] i did think it was weird that gparted-live had so much extra junk in it, but it got the job done quickly and easily [15:25] petaloid: i would think you'd boot with a partition cd, move the two partitions next to each other, then merge them [15:26] why delete a partition if you don't have to? [15:26] oh, I was thinking about how to do it if gparted didn't have merge [15:27] right that should work [15:27] you mean move; it can merge [15:27] I should've deleted that extra ntfs partition from the start [15:57] wb hobgoblin =] [16:12] how do i check and see if my graphics will support 3d games === starcraftman_ is now known as starcraft [19:11] Chesamo!! [19:12] Dana_!! Who are you o_O [19:12] wait brb changing name [19:12] it's white :p [19:12] Oh, hi [19:12] i'm on xchat. need to find out how do i disconnect and change username [19:12] Dana_: type /nick nickofchoice === Dana_ is now known as white [19:12] done thanks [19:13] :-D [19:13] So sorry for delay... my internet was down for 2 days [19:13] phone line broke [19:13] Alright. I had the live cd environment for ubuntu 10 04 up last night. When I started it today it asks me for a user and pass. How do I get back in? [19:14] phaytmobile: on the liveCD? Should be Ubuntu and no password [19:14] phaytmobile: you should be able to log in..... [19:15] if not type in Ubuntu like swoody said and then try it [19:15] Authentification failure [19:15] phaytmobile: not sure about the caps, might be 'ubuntu' [19:16] phaytmobile: Did you install ubuntu? [19:16] Doesn't work lowercase or aplcaps or initial u capped. [19:16] Appl: no [19:16] did chesamo went afk? :( [19:16] white: i think so...whatcha need? [19:17] well i was talking with him about getting drivers for USB modem for ubuntu and i need help [19:17] and he told me it requires internet connection on ubuntu to get driver. [19:18] now i'm trying to deal with ICS, via ethernet or wireless, doesn't matter [19:18] but it's hopeless [19:19] i'm on windows xp atm [19:20] hmmm [19:20] hey Bodsda [19:20] hey ZachK_ [19:20] lol [19:21] So I guess there's no one here who knows what to do? [19:21] http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/ that's what i'm talking about [19:21] @zachk [19:22] gimme a sec to check this out [19:22] phaytmobile: I'm not sure. I could suggest: ubuntu/[blank] , ubuntu/ubuntu [19:23] phaytmobile: Or [blank]/[blank] [19:23] Nope. Already tried blank blank. Ubuntu ubuntu doesn't work. [19:26] !doesntwork [19:26] Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. [19:26] lol [19:26] Heh. [19:26] Like I said earlier [19:27] Authentification failure [19:27] I wasnt here, cant see scroll back, please repost [19:27] Typing from phone so will be slow [19:28] phaytmobile: I'll do it. [19:28] K. Thank you [19:28] phaytmobile: well, I see this has been a pretty common problem for a few people, but most are caused by some kind of hardware issue, be it damaged or just incompatible with Ubuntu. You might want to try disabling ACPI [19:28] Bodsda: The live CD for some reason is asking for a login. He's tried a few username and password combinations, and they are giving him Authentication failures. [19:29] ooo, cool [19:29] Bodsda: Also, the live CD worked for him last night. [19:29] say wha [19:29] * Bodsda calls sherlock [19:29] Bodsda: Yeah, I was here helping him with some stuff. [19:29] Locked room mystery. [19:29] * ZachK_ (Secret Sherlock) responds [19:30] * Bodsda will be back in a sec [19:30] phaytmobile: so the liveCD booted just fine on this same computer last night? Did you happen to change any BIOS settings or boot parameters in that time? [19:30] No. [19:30] hmm... [19:30] this is a bit of a chin-scratcher [19:30] swoody: "Just fine" may not be accurate. It took a really long time and did some odd things at boot. [19:31] ah, I see [19:31] swoody: He has an old computer, but it took like 5 minutes to boot. [19:32] Alright. This is me. I'm on xp now. [19:33] phaytmobile: are you familiar with how to pull up the Grub2 menu during bootup? [19:33] No, I'm not. [19:34] As appl said, it took a long time to boot. When it did boot, I needed a driver for my wireless card. So this morning I downloaded it from XP, then tried the CD again. This time, it asks for a user/pass. [19:34] I began to install it last night, but cancelled the installation. [19:35] I think it may be partially installed, if that's possible. Is there a way to kill it entirely then begin again? [19:35] Phayt: Just starting the installation process will reformat and start your drive fresh [19:36] should I try to install from inside windows, then? [19:36] Phayt: You mean Wubi? [19:36] phaytmobile: just as your computer finished the POST from your BIOS, press 'Esc' a few times, and the Grub menu should come up [19:36] Possibly. When I insert the cd while windows is running, one of the options is to install from inside windows [19:37] alright. i'll try to boot from the cd again and see if i can get to the grub menu. [19:39] Alright. I'm in the grub menu. I think [19:39]