[00:03] <Bsims> I am needing help tracking down why I can't renable system bell I modprobed pcspkr back in... this worked in Karmic any ideas
[01:12] <wick94> hey guys, i have an idea for a feature tht i was to discuss
[01:12] <wick94> for ubuntu 10.10
[01:25] <virtuald> wick94: have you seen brainstorm.ubuntu.com?
[01:26] <wick94> yes
[01:26] <wick94> can i login there wth my ubuntu forums account?
[01:34] <cTn> anyone with some drm-next experience that could give me a hand ?
[02:58] <psusi> well, I've got my boot time on the old rotational disks down to just under 12 seconds... and I'm not sure I can do any better...
[03:08] <psusi> I was hoping to see sub 10 seconds, but I suppose that my ssd is only doing 7.85 seconds, so 11.9 on the old disks is pretty good
[04:37] <MTecknology> webadvisor is still down..... they're down for their allocated 4.5 hours.. and beyond
[04:37] <MTecknology> sorry... wrong channel
[08:27] <mum-n-dad> This is just too annoying:
[08:27] <mum-n-dad> root@mum-n-dad:~/www/apps/test# apt-get uninstall mongrel_cluster
[08:27] <mum-n-dad> E: Invalid operation uninstall
[08:27] <mum-n-dad> root@mum-n-dad:~/www/apps/test# apt-get deinstall mongrel_cluster
[08:27] <mum-n-dad> E: Invalid operation deinstall
[08:27] <mum-n-dad> root@mum-n-dad:~/www/apps/test# apt-get remove mongrel_cluster
[08:27] <mum-n-dad> Reading package lists... Done
[08:27] <mum-n-dad> Building dependency tree
[08:30] <Nafai> why annoying with the commands are documented in --help and the man page?
[12:02] <majeru> hi, is this a good place to ask about packaging general issues?
[12:15] <thekorn> majeru, hi, no it's not, we have #ubuntu-packaging for this kind of questions
[12:41] <Chipzz> thekorn: actually... if someone asks a packaging question here, ppl are supposed to answer
[12:41] <Chipzz> something to do with spreading the load among teams or sth
[12:41] <Chipzz> changed a couple of months ago, I was surprised by it as well
[12:43] <thekorn> wow, ok
[12:49] <Chipzz> well, "supposed to asnwer" may be a bit strong. but it is apparently no longer "off-topic" for this channel
[12:49] <Chipzz> (sth I personally disagree with, but then, who cares about my 2 cents? :P)
[14:08] <Keybuk> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=581625
[14:08] <Keybuk> Muahaha, it begins
[14:09] <kklimonda> :)
[14:37] <bankix> Hi.
[14:38] <bankix> I'm trying to bootstrap ubuntu from scratch, building a live CD.
[14:38] <bankix> Everything is fine so far, but how do I get the cdrom/casper/initrd.lz generated?
[14:38] <bankix> I'm currently dealing with an initrd.gz
[14:39] <cjwatson> zcat initrd.gz | lzma -9c >initrd.lz
[14:40] <cjwatson> (livecd-rootfs deals with this)
[14:40] <bankix> cjwatson: Thanks, that's the manual way. I thought there is some "installation step" I left out or something.
[14:41] <bankix> cjwatson: Is there perhaps anything like "create-ubuntu-fromscratch.sh"?
[14:41] <cjwatson> that code is basically what livecd-rootfs does (automatically) when it's building a live CD
[14:41] <cjwatson> live filesystem rather
[14:41] <cjwatson> not as a single script, but livecd-rootfs builds the live filesystem part of it
[14:41] <cjwatson> some assembly required
[14:41] <bankix> Ah, that's a package...
[14:42] <bankix> Thanks for that pointer! I didn't know about livecd-rootfs
[14:42] <cjwatson> it's optimised for running in our datacentre environment rather than for external builds
[14:42] <cjwatson> live-helper is reputed to be useful too, and we may switch to it for Ubuntu builds at some point, but we don't use it yet
[14:42] <bankix> I'll have a look into that package
[14:44] <bankix> Is there perhaps an howto how you build a ubuntu live cd?
[14:44] <cjwatson> not really, sorry
[14:44] <cjwatson> there's a customisation howto on help.ubuntu.com/community somewhere which is the best I can offer
[14:45] <bankix> Without knowing livecd-rootfs I had to put together some own scrpts. They're doing fine sofar, but I was missing the .lz but didn't expect it that easy :-)
[14:45] <cjwatson> but I'm not aware of any documentation on doing it from scratch, and it's not a priority at the moment
[14:45] <cjwatson> the .lz is just a space optimisation anyway
[14:45] <bankix> I like doing it the way as you guys do :-)
[14:46] <cjwatson> pretty sure you wouldn't like having to set up one server per architecture for the live filesystem builds and then a separate server dedicated to building the CD part
[14:46] <bankix> I'm currently working on a new version of c't Bankix, this time I'd like to build it from bottom up -- last time I did it the other way by stripping down ubuntu desktop cd.
[14:46] <cjwatson> that's basically why it's not heavily documented - it's not the way most people actually want to build live CDs locally
[14:47] <cjwatson> the code's all available though, livecd-rootfs plus 'bzr get lp:ubuntu-cdimage' and the stuff in configs/devel there
[14:48] <cjwatson> it's just a more ... industrial setup than most people actually want
[14:49] <Keybuk> cjwatson: Cody Somerville said you were going to change to using some other live cd tools thing ;)
[14:50] <cjwatson> 14:42 <cjwatson> live-helper is reputed to be useful too, and we may switch to it for Ubuntu builds at some point, but we don't use it yet
[14:50] <bankix> Thanks, I'll have a look and maybe optimize my scripts.
[14:50] <cjwatson> that would be that one
[14:54] <bankix> Bye, have a nice weekend
[16:05] <pitti> cjwatson: would you happen to have a minute to review my libatasmart karmic SRU (sitting in the queue)
[16:07] <cjwatson> pitti: queued up, though will probably be this evening
[16:24] <pitti> cjwatson: thanks; "next week" is clearly enough :)
[18:46] <mneptok> hrmf. no Kexi package for Lucid?
[19:04] <astraljava> mneptok: It isn't in testing, which probably explains why it isn't in Lucid. No idea of the reason for this.
[19:37] <cTn> anyone with some skills in drm-next that could give me a hand ?
[19:40] <cTn> anyone with some skills in drm-next that could give me a hand ?
[19:42] <astraljava> cTn: UDS just ended, not many are connected at the moment. Please have patience, and try again later. Next week might be more successful.
[19:45] <cTn> :(
[19:55] <TuGa> hi
[19:55] <TuGa>  i'm trying to install ubuntu 10 on my hard disk SAS. ii started the livecd i can see the SAS disk create a partition for / and finish the instalation process
[19:56] <TuGa> but wend reboot it gives me the windows bootloader and not grub to go to ubuntu
[19:56] <TuGa> cant get grub to write
[19:56] <TuGa> any ideia?
[19:58] <kklimonda> TuGa: this is not the right channel to look for support - try on #ubuntu or use ubuntuforums.org
[20:00] <TuGa> ok sory
[21:15] <rgreening> superm1: yo
[21:15] <rgreening> you around?
[21:33] <cwillu_at_work> who wants a compiz-fusion snapping windows patch to make the windows not drag so terribly slowly when dragging parallel to a snapping edge?
[21:33] <cwillu_at_work> (it's a one liner :p)
[21:35] <cwillu_at_work> src/snap/snap.c, line 191:  it warps the pointer in addition to the window, which is unnecessary, and interferes with the desired motion
[21:39] <cjwatson> pitti: libatasmart done now