[00:34] <bobby> Anyone know why 3.7a5 isn't in the repositories anymore?
[00:35] <micahg> bobby: ?
[00:35] <bobby> 3.7a5... I can't find it in the repositories anywhere
[00:35] <micahg> bobby: what repo?
[00:36] <bobby> Daily build repository
[00:36] <bobby> It isn't there, where'd it go?
[00:36] <micahg> bobby: what release?
[00:36] <bobby> 3.7a5
[00:36] <micahg> bobby: no, Ubuntu release
[00:36] <bobby> Oh, 10.04
[00:36] <micahg> bobby: weird
[00:37] <micahg> it's there
[00:37] <bobby> I also tried Synaptic, wasn't there either
[00:37] <bobby> Really? Where?
[00:37] <micahg> bobby: firefox-3.7
[00:37] <bobby> Yeah, I just did a clean install and now can't find it
[00:37] <micahg> bobby: you need to add the PPA
[00:37] <bobby> I did
[00:37] <bobby> Nothing came up when I updated it though
[00:37] <bobby> I'm currently running 3.6.3
[00:37] <micahg> bobby: you mean it's missing or no updates
[00:37] <bobby> Yeah
[00:38] <micahg> bobby: no, it's a different pacakge
[00:38] <micahg> It's Minefield in the menu
[00:38] <bobby> Yeah, I know, it didn't load
[00:38] <micahg> bobby: what does apt-cache policy firefox-3.7 say, please use pastebin
[00:40] <bobby> Hang on, is 3.7 in a different repository now? I just did a clean install, and got it from the daily repository...
[00:40] <micahg> bobby: no, still in Ubuntu Mozilla Daily
[00:41] <BUGabundo>  *** 3.7~a5~hg20100506r41949+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 0
[00:41] <BUGabundo>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages
[00:41] <micahg> bobby: yes
[00:41] <micahg> bobby: i've been at UDS so  I haven't had time to fix the dailies, they should resume normally next week
[00:42] <bobby> Oh okay, yeah I was looking there before...
[00:42] <bobby> Wait... That is Thunderbird lol
[00:43] <bobby> Oh yeah, so how is UDS? I've never been ;)
[00:43] <micahg> BUGabundo: it's early for you than me ATM :)
[00:43] <micahg> bobby: planning lots of great stuff
[00:43] <bobby> Wait... I have an idea!
[00:44] <bobby> Make firefox open in .000000000001 seconds!
[00:44] <micahg> bobby: that reminds me I need to fix the topic :)
[00:44] <bobby> :)
[00:44] <micahg> bobby: not going to happen, but FF4 should be much faster
[00:45] <bobby> What?
[00:45] <bobby> Oh yeah, I remember when we switched to Yahoo! for about a month
[00:45] <bobby> That was funny
[00:45] <BUGabundo> micahg: when do you expect FF4 to hit the repos?
[00:45] <micahg> BUGabundo: archive or PPA?
[00:45] <bobby> I think the alpha is supposed to be June (ish) from what I've heard
[00:46] <bobby> Not sure
[00:46] <BUGabundo> anywhere we can install it from
[00:46] <bobby> If I had to guess... It'll be something like nightly builds until October
[00:46] <micahg> BUGabundo: well, I think 3.7 is 4
[00:46] <bobby> No
[00:47] <bobby> 3.7 is 3.6.4
[00:47]  * micahg hasn't had time to keep up with blog posts
[00:47] <micahg> bobby: no
[00:47] <bobby> It isn't?
[00:47] <BUGabundo> NO
[00:47] <bobby> I read a blog post saying it was...
[00:47] <BUGabundo> na ah
[00:47] <bobby> No, I saw some slideshow confirming it...
[00:47] <bobby> Mozilla released it at some press conference
[00:47] <micahg> I meant the current builds
[00:48] <micahg> the firefox-3.7 codebase is what will become 4
[00:48] <bobby> oh oh
[00:48] <bobby> I'm not sure
[00:48]  * micahg should read belzner's blog
[00:48] <bobby> lol
[00:48] <bobby> I'm really looking forward to the new interface, is it looking anything like the mockups?
[00:48] <bobby> 4.0 Ubuntu mockups were EPIC
[00:49] <bobby> Oh no, that was the 3.7 mockups I think
[00:49] <micahg> not yet
[00:49] <BUGabundo> yeah
[00:49] <BUGabundo> they need to trim it
[00:49] <bobby> Yeah, the mockups were insane
[00:49] <BUGabundo> its toooo big
[00:49] <BUGabundo> I've trimed mine the most I can
[00:49] <bobby> Agreed, Mozilla also needs to decide what to do with the new home tab
[00:49] <BUGabundo> and I go to the extreme of leaving *just* the site
[00:49] <BUGabundo> nothing else
[00:49] <BUGabundo> a semi-fullscreen / quiosk mode
[00:50] <BUGabundo> I do F11, then super+f11
[00:50] <BUGabundo> LOL
[00:50] <fta> BUGabundo, in the 4.0 mockups, http:// is gone ;)
[00:50] <BUGabundo> its full screen without being full screen
[00:50] <micahg> so, OOPP was the big deal for 3.7 and that'll be in 3.6.4, so the rest of 3.7 will be 4.0
[00:50] <BUGabundo> fta: OH MAN :(
[00:50] <bobby> Really?
[00:50] <bobby> Wow...
[00:50] <bobby> I didn't hear about that
[00:51] <fta> once trunk move to 4.0, the bot will stop producing dailies
[00:51] <bobby> Well, of course
[00:51] <micahg> :(
[00:51] <bobby> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/3.7_Linux_Theme_Mockups
[00:51] <bobby> Loving it, loving it, loving it
[00:52] <bobby> One thing for Ubuntu, that I really want to see, is an epic speed boost
[00:52] <bobby> I'm liking the new... What's it called?
[00:52] <micahg> it'll be chromofox or firefium
[00:52] <bobby> For Netbooks and st00f
[00:52] <BUGabundo> unity
[00:52] <BUGabundo> its FAST
[00:52] <bobby> Yeah that
[00:52] <fta> i mean, until i update its configuration, but the package would need to be updated first.. tons of renaming and even more transition packages
[00:52] <BUGabundo> I admit it
[00:52] <bobby> I heard it was very buggy though
[00:52] <BUGabundo> not that much
[00:52] <BUGabundo> it works
[00:52] <BUGabundo> but I miss Compiz
[00:53] <bobby> I can't live without compiz
[00:53] <bobby> Wobbly windows <3
[00:53] <micahg> fta: I know, it's ok
[00:53] <bobby> Today I booted into Windows 7 for the first time in 3 weeks, just to update it and get Portal for free on Steam :)
[00:54] <bobby> Oh yeah, 3.7a5 failed to build it says on the daily build page...
[00:54] <bobby> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Roadmap
[00:55] <bobby> There we go, that answers all questions about the roadmap :)
[00:55] <micahg> bobby: that's outdated
[00:55] <BUGabundo> "Nushio: and I'm betting that unlike chrome/ium, there'll be an option in about:config to enable http"
[00:55] <bobby> yeahh
[00:55] <bobby> Oh yeah, just saw updated Jan :P
[00:55] <bobby> Ah crap
[00:56] <bobby> GNOME is frozen
[00:56] <bobby> All I have is the text thing, and can't click on any windows
[00:56] <bobby> All I can do is type in here :(
[00:56] <bobby> Okay, nvm, fixed :P
[00:56] <bobby> Hate when that happens
[00:56] <bobby> O...M...G...
[00:57] <bobby> I was just looking through my drawer, and found my Windows 98 recovery disk for my ancient PC
[00:57] <bobby> OMG!
[00:57] <bobby> Netscape 4.0!...
[00:57]  * BUGabundo slaps bobby silly
[00:57] <bobby> I wonder...
[00:57] <bobby> Virtualbox time!
[00:58] <bobby> Oh yeah, anybody know the release date for 3.6.4?
[00:59] <micahg> bobby: delayed
[00:59] <bobby> Ah dang it... It's true?
[01:00] <bobby> Too bad
[01:01] <bobby> Anybody tried the Shell for GNOME yet?
[01:01] <micahg> bobby: a couple weeks
[01:01] <bobby> oh
[01:01] <micahg> bobby: you can test from security PPA
[01:01] <micahg> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[01:02] <bobby> W00t!  a new W7 was my idea commercial! Love making fun of MS's horrible marketing campaigns :)
[01:02] <bobby> Wait, this is 3.7?
[01:02] <BUGabundo> bobby: did you take *TWO* expressos tonie?
[01:02] <bobby> No... Only 3 cokes...
[01:02] <bobby> Oh 3.6.4 got it
[01:02] <BUGabundo> 1l each ?
[01:04] <bobby> Okay, question:
[01:04] <micahg> bobby: that's not the final version but OOPP works
[01:04] <micahg> in most cases
[01:04] <bobby> How many builds are there of FF?
[01:04] <micahg> bobby: what do you mean?
[01:04] <bobby> I know there is: 3.7a5, 3.6.4 testing, 3.6.5pre, anything else?
[01:05] <micahg> not ATM
[01:05] <micahg> for Lucid at least
[01:05] <bobby> Oh, m'kay
[01:06] <bobby> Anyone see the Chrome 6 preview? "30-50% faster"
[01:08] <BUGabundo> erk
[01:08] <BUGabundo> I'm using it !
[01:08] <BUGabundo> 6.0.402.0 (47105) Ubuntu
[01:08] <bobby> Link pl0x?
[01:08] <bobby> I heard that Flash and Java support are very limited ATM though
[01:08] <micahg> bobby: chromium daily PPA
[01:09] <bobby> Thanks
[01:09] <BUGabundo> daily ppa ?
[01:10] <bobby> ppa:chromium-daily/ppa
[01:10] <bobby> I <3 open source :)
[01:12] <bobby> OMG, that was as fast as 3.7a5! nice!
[01:13] <bobby> I still like Firefox better though, mainly the addons and reliability :)
[01:14] <BUGabundo> welllllll
[01:14] <BUGabundo> nite every1
[01:15] <micahg> night BUGabundo
[01:16] <bobby> nite
[01:20] <bobby> I'm actually kind of annoyed at Firefox ATM...
[01:20] <bobby> Too many personas to choose from :(
[01:30] <DASPRiD> how about, choose none :P
[01:30] <DASPRiD> they make the browser ugly imho :)
[01:32] <bobby> Really? I can't live without them
[01:35] <DASPRiD> you have a very strange live, little buddy
[01:38] <bobby> Indeed... School, Ubuntu and food is about it :P
[01:38] <bobby> Not really, but you get the idea: open source FTW
[18:22] <cwillu_at_work> when a download completes, I get a notification bubble that pops up over and over again for a couple minutes;  is that just me, or does that happen to everyone? :p