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ryeduanedesign, looks like bug #57581700:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 575817 in ubuntuone-client "Interrupted upload is not retried" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57581700:11
duanedesignrye: ahh thank you00:14
duanedesignwill look at that00:14
ryeduanedesign, but it looks like it could drop one file, but not all00:14
ryeduanedesign, no, that's not it00:16
ryei believe that bug will need to be forked out since there is only a disconnect pretty much long time ago00:17
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brad_Hello03:47
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brad_Did you happen to get a hold of a developer to look into my download issues?03:48
brad_Duane... How about you?03:49
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brad_I don't think it's fair that I purchased a album and I'm not entitled to download it03:53
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tritiumWhen will Tomboy note synchronization be re-enabled?  I want to do a clean install of 10.04, but not being able to sync my notes is holding that up, as I don't want to lose recent changes that haven't yet synchronized.05:22
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kermiactritium: notes synchronisation has not been disabled. Only bookmarks & contacts sync are disabled atm06:36
tritiumkermiac: any idea why it's not working, then?07:18
duanedesignmorning all08:29
kermiachi duanedesign :)08:38
kermiacanyone know a good workaround &/or master bug for "gnomekeyring.IOError:"? I've seen a couple of bug reports with this error lately08:54
todayhi everyone ! I have a problem with UbuntuOne, plz help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/433231/09:32
todayI have a problem with UbuntuOne, plz help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/433231/09:33
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ryeif today said majic "h0nk" word i would have asked him to check whether seahorse can start and see whether starting gnome-keyring fixes that09:38
kermiacah, that answers my earlier question - thanks rye :)  Do we have a master bug for that gnomekeyring.IOError? I've seen a few of them lately09:42
ryekermiac, i believe it is gnome keyring that quits unexpectedly and since people tend to use browsers that do not store credentials in gnome-keyring they probably will face the issue only with ubuntuone09:43
ryekermiac, nobody hits keyring usually... for now09:44
kermiacrye, yeah thanks :) I've seen this issue popping up in relation to a few packages (like gwibber) lately. seems likely that it might be a gnome-keyring issue09:45
ryekermiac, we do not make gnome-keyring quit usually09:46
kermiacrye: yes, I understand that :) seems like a lot of people are having gnome-keyring either not start or start too slowly  (this is just my understanding of the issue - I could be totally wrong). also, it seems like jdobrien is working on this same issue in bug 56719409:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 567194 in ubuntuone-client "Lucid (64 bit built 4/20/10) Ubuntuone not synchronizing, -preferences not starting" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56719409:49
kermiacalthough that bug report mentions x64 specifically09:49
jstar-twhi, is there a KDE client for ubuntu-one available for Kubuntu lucid ?09:50
kermiacrye: another quick example of this issue is bug 579158.09:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 579158 in ubuntuone-client "nothing happens when i click on the ubuntu one icon from the menu or the me menu" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57915809:52
ahallI have a problem, I signed up for ubuntuone account few months ago and got contacts and all synced fine. After upgrade to Lucid things started going a bit south. I have two machines running 10.04 connecting to it and I get nasty replication errors in desktop couch log on both machines. I have tried wiping all traces of ubuntu one on 1 box, deleting the tokens and connecting it back. Even wiped desktopcouch but it happens again. Been searching the forums bu11:21
stapelI understand there is a Windows client in the works. Does anyone know what the progress on this is?12:03
stapelI understand there is a Windows client in the works. Does anyone know what the progress on this is?12:16
Flash_ey guys13:35
Flash_anyone knows when the contac database will be back again?13:35
Flash_i've just downloaded ubuntu one on my iphone and cant wait to try it^^13:36
Mon_I need my notes ;)13:38
sniperciao13:41
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josephnexusare there any plans to add versioning to ubuntu one?15:46
ahallahh the contact database is gone, that explains my problems :)16:13
apacheloggerwhom do I cry to about syncdaemon code business?16:47
beunoapachelogger, a lot of people16:48
beunowhat's up?16:48
apacheloggermain.py queries gnomekeyring for the access token16:48
apacheloggerinstead it should query via dbus to com.ubuntuone.Authentication16:49
beunodobey, verterok, around?16:49
verterokapachelogger: are you sure about that? :)16:50
apacheloggerabout the usage of keyring or the dbus query?16:50
* apachelogger can do authentication via a Qt+KWallet implementation of com.ubuntuone.Authentication now16:50
apacheloggerwell, if syncdaemon gets changed around to not enforce a secret storage backend16:50
verterokapachelogger: but com.ubuntuone.Authentication doesn't return the token, also isn't secure enough to pass tokens around via DBus, that's plain tetxt16:51
verterok*text16:51
* apachelogger is wondering how the common secrets daemon will handle that stuff16:52
verterokapachelogger: com.ubuntuone.Authentication sends a NewCredentials signal with: realm, consumer_key16:52
joshuahooververterok: not sure this is relevant to the discussion, but at one time there was talk of using python-keyring16:52
verterokapachelogger: the "client" needs to get the token from the secure storage16:52
verterokjoshuahoover: yes, I know, but for some reason we didn't do it16:53
apacheloggerin that case we need a class to try obtaining the token from either gnomekeyring or kwallet16:53
joshuahooververterok: yeah, i never got a reason for why, maybe we should bring it back up for maverick?16:53
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verterokapachelogger: python-keyring do that! :)16:54
apacheloggeror implement that inline in syncdaemon's main.py if you will16:54
apacheloggerverterok: well... then... ;)16:54
verterokapachelogger, joshuahoover: dobey might know better about why we didn't use python-keyring for lucid16:55
verterokjoshuahoover: indeed :)16:55
joshuahooververterok: right, dobey and/or statik...they were the ones originally requesting it and then decided not to request it be included in main16:55
* verterok looks at dobey/statik :)16:57
verterokapachelogger: if we can't use python-keyring, we can add a sort of plugin mechanism, so you can hook whatever you need to use kwallet16:58
verteroka *very* simple/naive plugin kind of stuff16:59
joshuahooververterok: related to python-keyring, i was (slightly) surprised that there doesn't appear to be a gnome-keyring/kwallet/keychain equivalent for windows (that is part of the os, anyway)16:59
verterokjoshuahoover: I think there is a crypto-storage in windows17:00
joshuahooververterok: i'll send an email to the team list to see if it makes sense to include python-keyring in maverick17:00
joshuahooververterok: i don't recall there being one...for ie, yes (similar to firefox) but i don't think there is one system wide...maybe win7? not sure17:00
verterokjoshuahoover: in python-keyring slang it's called: Win32CryptoKeyring17:01
verterokjoshuahoover: check http://pypi.python.org/pypi/keyring :)17:01
verterokjoshuahoover: win 2k+17:01
verterokapachelogger: you'r working in python? I mean the KDE integration it's in python or C++?17:03
apacheloggerc++17:04
joshuahooververterok: ah yes, i saw that...just wondered why it was listed as something different than the gnome, kde, os x equivalents17:04
apacheloggerof course parts could be done in python, like curerntly the desktopcouch pairing is still done in python ;)17:04
verterokapachelogger: we could isolate the keyring access to oauthdesktop, and use the OAuthClient in oauthdesktop.main, so there is a single place where the keyring is accessed17:06
verterokapachelogger: that way support for kwallet/python-keyring should be a lot simple17:06
verterokapachelogger: and make sure desktopcouch use the same stuff ;)17:06
apachelogger*nod*17:07
apacheloggerof course we should keep in mind that at some point org.freedesktop.Secret.Service will arrive and basically obsolete the different code for kwally and gnome-keyring altogether17:08
verterokapachelogger: and it should be a quite simpel branch to do it (use oauthdesktop.auth.AuthorisationClient in syncdaemon)17:08
verterokapachelogger: indeed, so keeping the access to the keyring in a single place will make that change also easier :)17:09
apacheloggerright :)17:09
leonelHello17:16
joshuahooverhi leonel17:16
leonelAny plans to take Ubuntu one to the server .. I mean  use ubuntu one without any graphican environment ?17:17
leonel s/graphican/graphical17:17
joshuahooverleonel: i don't believe it's on our list for maverick but i'm sure we'd welcome contributions to help us get there sooner :)17:19
leonelso the only "solution" now is to install  gnome --no-install-recommends  and install ubuntu one  on the server then access with vnc ?17:19
joshuahooverleonel: i think so unless verterok or someone else knows of a better way17:20
verterokleonel: you need dbus and gnome-keyring in order to make it work, so yes.. :/17:21
leonelthanks17:22
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duanedesignahall: right now the Sync between your desktops and the cloud is currently disabled.17:59
duanedesignfor Contacts17:59
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ahalli feel relieved there is an explanation :)18:06
duanedesignahall: Should be back up very soon18:12
ahallthanks for that18:14
josephnexusany plans for a windows client for ubuntuone?18:18
beunojosephnexus, yes, within the next 6 months we plan to release one18:19
josephnexusand for mac?18:21
beunothere are no plans for max at the moment18:22
josephnexusok18:22
beunoalthough it shouldn't be super hard to port I think18:22
* josephnexus just wanted to check18:22
josephnexusyeah18:22
beunowe do have a contact sync client for the iphone18:22
josephnexusbut not the n900 :-(\18:28
beunonot super well on the n90018:28
beunoit doesn't have good support for syncml18:28
josephnexusis there a way to be a reseller for the service?18:28
* josephnexus has a lot of clientelle and would rather see them supporting canonical18:28
beunojosephnexus, you should get in touch with matt.griffin@canonical.com about that18:29
josephnexusk, thanks18:32
pookitoguys I am having a problem with ubuntuone,18:33
josephnexuspookito, what's the problem?18:33
pookitofor some reason UO is not working with Kubuntu and I need to download a file18:33
josephnexusgo to one.ubuntu.com/files18:33
josephnexusin your browser18:33
pookitoI know can do it via Web UI but I do not know how18:33
josephnexusyou should be able to log in from the site I just sent you and grab it18:34
pookitogive me a sec18:34
pookitoit is only giving me the uption to upload, new folder and share.  but that's is it18:35
pookitoI try clicking in more at the left but the download option is not there18:35
beunopookito, what browser are you using?18:35
pookitokonqueror18:36
josephnexuswould it be possible for you to try firefox?18:36
beunopookito, try something else18:36
beunofirefox, chromium18:36
beunomaybe we have a bug18:36
pookitosure, I'll use ff18:36
beunowhat version of konqueror?18:36
pookitobeuno: the latest version which came up with kubuntu 10.0418:42
pookitoI think it does have a bug, since it did not want to work with ff either18:42
beunopookito, gotcha. I will need to test that. Did firefox give you metter results?18:42
beunowell, that is very very odd then18:43
beunopookito, do you have javascript enabled?18:43
pookitoI had to right click on the file and then save as18:43
pookitoor link save as18:43
beunothat is super odd18:43
pookitoI had a couple of copies in the file18:43
pookitothe one which was as a folder did not work18:43
beunoright, you can't download folders18:43
pookitobut the one which was compress I was able to download it as a save as link18:43
beunoyeah, yay for progressive enhancement18:44
beunoI added that in exactly for that18:44
beunojavascript failing18:44
pookitoThanks beuno,18:44
beunopookito, but you have something wrong in your system18:44
pookitoI appreciated, I really needed those files18:44
pookitowell18:45
beunothe web ui works on all browsers I can test18:45
pookitoit's been working like that for me since it came out18:45
pookitothe only difference18:45
pookito is that now, ubuntuone does not want to work with kubuntu18:45
pookitoand I do not like gnome at all18:45
beunopookito, so when you click on "more" for a file, it doesn't expand and show you a "download" link?18:46
pookitoI downloaded all the dependencies and still UO does not work, I do not know how18:46
pookitowell18:46
josephnexusbeuno, any plans for adding versioning (example: see this file from a week ago)18:46
beunojosephnexus, yes sir18:46
beunoit's in our Maverick roadmap18:46
beunoso in the next 6 months18:47
pookitoit does expand but it does not show the download link18:47
josephnexuspookito, what happens if you just click on the file you need?18:47
josephnexusor are you trying to grab a folder?18:47
beunopookito, for files?  or folders?18:47
josephnexusbeuno, if you can get versioning going on, i know i'd sign up18:47
josephnexus:-D18:47
josephnexussvn is too... svnish18:47
josephnexus:-P18:47
beunojosephnexus, it will happen!18:48
pookitowell, now in ff it does not open  it goes inside of the folder like in a window, but it does not show the download18:48
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pookitonow, I can see that the files I can download right away18:49
pookitothanks bueno18:49
pookitobueno, I won't take more of your time18:49
beunopookito, no worries18:49
directhexdear u1, please actually give me my song now... it's on remote storage, but won't come down the pipe. it's been hours. no love, directhex19:18
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duanedesignhello directhex19:24
directhexafternoon19:26
beep_grhallo19:29
josephnexushi beep_gr19:29
duanedesigndirecthex: having trouble syncing?19:33
beep_grI made a mistake and I synchronized a non ubuntu one folder and when the folder added to ubuntu one web site, i deleted it from nautilus file manager but it didn't removed from the site19:33
beunobeep_gr, it takes a while to delete a lot of files19:34
beunoyou can, however, delete it from thr web ui19:34
beep_grwhen i press more, there is no delete option19:34
directhexduanedesign, yeah, waiting for a purchased track to show up locally. a track i bought after it was pretty much instant19:34
duanedesignbeep_gr: if you run the command :  u1sdtool --list-folders you can see if the UDF is still listed19:35
beunobeep_gr, ah, it's a UDF19:35
beep_gryes and i tried to remove them, the command was correct but when i check if it still shared, the folders are still visible19:36
beep_grwhat is udf?19:37
duanedesigndirecthex: what does the command   u1sdtool -s  return. You can post multiple lines at http://paste.ubuntu.com19:37
duanedesignbeep_gr: User Designated Folder19:37
directhexduanedesign, idle, processing queues.19:37
beep_grone folder has the name router (if I understand what you ask)19:40
duanedesigndirecthex: try the command: touch ~/.ubuntuone/Purcharsed\ from\ Ubuntu\ One/placeholder; u1sdtool --quit; u1sdtool --connect19:44
duanedesignit creates an empty file in your purchased folder then restarts ubuntu one19:45
duanedesignbeep_gr: does the folder show up? The one you want to be deleted.19:46
beep_gryes19:47
directhexduanedesign, seems to have come down on disk, but the u1ms widget hasn't acknowledged that detail. hrm.19:48
* directhex smells more unicode failure19:48
monkey_dusthi all -- i am unable to launch ubuntu one, it says: Failed to execute child process "ubuntuone-client-applet" (No such file or directory)19:48
duanedesignbeep_gr: there is a command you can use to remove that folder19:48
beep_grprobably the site is mixed up because when i syncronized for the first time, i deleted it from my computer, when i restored it and the site has something like broken link and it cannot connect into the restored folder19:49
josephnexusbeuno: i'm good friends with an awesome band, how would they go about adding their music to the music store for sale?19:49
directhexjosephnexus, via 7digital afaik19:49
beunojosephnexus, we don't currently have control over what goes there, so yeah, via 7digital19:49
duanedesignbeep_gr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ#How%20do%20I%20stop%20synchronizing%20a%20folder%20outside%20my%20~/Ubuntu%20One%20folder19:50
beep_grwhen i right click into the folder (via nautilus) and choose to synchronize to ubuntu one, the option 'stop synchronizing' is to visible.19:51
beep_grwhen i remove the folders via u1sdtool --unsubscribe-folder and i give the command u1sdtool --list-folders, the folders are still on19:52
beep_gris there a way to remove the folders via website? There must be a broken link and the synch is not possible19:53
duanedesignbeep_gr: you sure you have the folderID right? The command should look like.  u1sdtool --unsubscribe-folder=c4d1e6f9-931b-45c6-8fac-8303908152419:54
beep_gryes... and the is no error report19:55
duanedesignhmm19:55
duanedesignmonkey_dust: hello19:56
duanedesignmonkey_dust: what version of Ubuntu One are you running?  dpkg -l ubuntuone-client19:56
duanedesignthe newer versions do not have the applet19:57
monkey_dustduanedesign, http://paste.ubuntu.com/433500/20:04
duanedesignmonkey_dust: yeah, that version does not have the applet20:06
duanedesignit was replaced by   ubuntuone-preferences20:06
monkey_dustduanedesign, it keeps mentioning this applet -- i have been using lucid since beta1, dunno what changed in ubuntuone since20:06
duanedesignmonkey_dust: Ubuntu One is mentioning the applet?20:08
monkey_dusti also looked for a .ubuntuone map20:08
duanedesignyou are not typing in 'ubuntuone-applet' into the Terminal?20:09
monkey_dustduanedesign, when i click Appl > Internet  > Ubuntuone20:09
duanedesignmonkey_dust: ahh20:09
duanedesignmonkey_dust: you are still on Karmic?20:09
monkey_dusta light starts ti shine? :)20:10
monkey_dustno lucid, after dist-upgrade, no fresh install20:10
duanedesignThe newer versions of Ubuntu One are started by either going to the Me Menu (in Lucid) or going to System > Preferences > Ubuntu One (in Karmic)20:10
duanedesignmonkey_dust: i am sorry you just told me you were running lucid :P20:11
monkey_dustyes lucid20:11
josephnexusduanedesign: aren't they automagically running as a service?20:11
josephnexusthat way if your user isn't logged in it still syncs?20:11
monkey_dustduanedesign, Ubuntu One is in the Me Menu, but does nothing when i click it20:11
duanedesignmonkey_dust: not sure why it left the entry in your Menu under pplications > Internet. You can probablly delete that. Or change the command it runs to    ubuntuone-preferences20:12
duanedesignmonkey_dust: can you open a Terminal20:12
duanedesignand run ubuntuone-preferences20:12
duanedesignmonkey_dust: hopefully it will spit out a clue as to why its not starting.20:13
monkey_dustduanedesign, http://paste.ubuntu.com/433503/20:14
duanedesignmonkey_dust: can you post your  ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf20:17
monkey_dustduanedesign, Ubuntu One works fine in the guest session, is there some way this could help to solve the problem?20:21
duanedesignjosephnexus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ#How%20do%20independent%20artists%20from%20the%20Ubuntu%20community%20get%20their%20songs%20into%20the%20store?20:23
duanedesignmonkey_dust: can you post your  ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf20:23
duanedesignat pastebin20:23
monkey_dustduanedesign, http://paste.ubuntu.com/433507/20:25
duanedesignaha20:27
duanedesignmonkey_dust: quit the syncdaemon with the command:   u1sdtool -q20:27
monkey_dustduanedesign, stopped ok20:28
duanedesignmonkey_dust: then delete that file ( it willl be reproduced)  rm ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf20:28
duanedesignthen launch Ubuntu One normally20:28
monkey_dustnot better20:28
duanedesignmonkey_dust: ok20:31
duanedesignmonkey_dust: try this command    u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login; killall ubuntuone-preferences; u1sdtool -c20:34
ahallseems like ubuntuone requires networkmanager to be present, what if you are on a static IP and remove networkmanager20:35
ahallah nvm there is a bug for that20:36
monkey_dustthat's my situation, yes, static IP, no network manager -- after the command: Operation not permitted20:37
duanedesignahall: i am not certain but i think the newer versions do not require network manager20:37
ahalli'm up to date and just see an exception in the syncdaemon-exceptions.log though20:37
duanedesignahall: do you have the bug #20:37
ahall35739520:37
ahallthere was another one that was flagged as a duplicate of this one20:38
duanedesignahall: what is the exception?20:38
ahallcan i paste here? it's only 3 lines20:38
duanedesignif its not to bad, i am sure it will be fine20:38
ahall2010-05-14 20:28:49,109 - dbus.proxies - ERROR - Introspect error on org.freedesktop.NetworkManager:/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files20:39
ahall2010-05-14 20:28:49,134 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.DBus - ERROR - Error while getting the NetworkManager state org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files20:39
duanedesignok20:39
duanedesignbug 35739520:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 357395 in ubuntuone-client "ubuntuone-client requires NetworkManager" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35739520:39
monkey_dustthat page is about karmic (and jaunty), not about lucid20:44
ahallyeah this must be a different issue20:44
duanedesignmonkey_dust: ok try the command:  gnome-keyring-daemon; ubuntuone-preferences20:45
monkey_dustduanedesign, yes, asks for the keyring pasword, then a lot of technical stuff, but then: Got empty result for devices list.20:46
monkey_dusthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/433519/20:47
duanedesignmonkey_dust: can you open  Open Applications->Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys20:50
monkey_dustduanedesign, yes20:51
duanedesignlook for the Ubuntu ONe Token20:51
monkey_dustduanedesign, Ubuntu One seems to launch but finds no device20:51
duanedesignmonkey_dust: the empty device list is bug 57626320:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 576263 in ubuntuone-client "Ubuntu One Preferences - "Got empty result for devices list."" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57626320:53
monkey_dustduanedesign, does this mean that it is all due to a known bug?:s20:53
duanedesignthe workaround for that bug is to delete your Token and reauthorize your computer20:54
monkey_dustduanedesign, yes, that did the trick, tnx, but shouldn't there be an icon in the notification area?20:59
monkey_dustthanks duanedesign , you're the best, it seems to work just fine :)21:03
duanedesignmonkey_dust: great!21:04
duanedesignthanks for being so patient :)21:04
monkey_dusti used to be a technical helpdesk agent, that helps ;)21:06
duanedesignahall: is your issue that it is not connecting or just not syncing files?21:08
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tullanyone know if i can remove a song or an album from the basket of ubuntu one in rhythmbox?21:18
joshuahoovertull: you should be able to click on the small "x" next to the song price in your "basket"21:20
tullresolved: there is a simple X21:20
tullthank you21:20
joshuahoovertull: :)21:20
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CogitoErgoSamhey guys I'm new to Ubunto One; is there a way to preserve execute privs on a file that's shared?  Its not in the Ubuntu One folder, but in a different one that works fine for synching the actual files.21:57
CogitoErgoSamIts not that annoying to chmod on my scripts I'm working on when I work on them on a new station, but if theres a setting to change that it would be preferable21:58
beunoCogitoErgoSam, there isn't anything at the moment22:02
beunowe're aware of it, and will eventually fix it, but it's not on the immediate roadmap22:02
CogitoErgoSamOk, sounds good.22:02
elleucahi, is the contacts synchronization still disabled?22:04
beunoelleuca, it is22:04
beunowe're very very very close to re-enabling it22:04
beunowe need to perform some final tests22:04
CogitoErgoSamOn a semi-related topic, are there any event scripts that run when ubuntu one starts synching, ends synching, etc.  Something that could be hooked onto?22:05
elleucabeuno, thanks, I'll wait :)22:05
beunoCogitoErgoSam, I think dbus22:05
beunoverterok would know more22:05
beunobut he seems gone for the week22:05
CogitoErgoSamokey dokey, I'll make a note.  That approach could provide a quick fix for the execute privs22:06
beunoCogitoErgoSam, you can raise that in the users mailing list22:09
beunothe smartest people will be able to answer there  :)22:09
CogitoErgoSamThanks, I'll check it out.22:09
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