| rlameiro | scott-work: we really need to tackle the network bug ASAP | 15:26 |
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| scott-work | rlameiro: i might be wrong but i don't think it's in our hands right now | 15:27 |
| rlameiro | I just helped now a fellow teacher in the music school to install the network | 15:27 |
| rlameiro | the cd thing doesnt works easyly | 15:27 |
| scott-work | and those with the clout to persuade those responsible are at the UDS probably | 15:27 |
| rlameiro | I needed to comment the lines from the internet to install it, and then i only installed a package at a time.... | 15:27 |
| rlameiro | definitively not easy to make as a first user or tech unaware... | 15:28 |
| * rlameiro remebers now he forgot to uncomment the apt-sources list.... | 15:29 | |
| scott-work | in the bug Milan mentioned the core devs being responsible and it is assigned to a "lucid - updates" milestone | 15:29 |
| scott-work | i agree it's not friendly for the first time user, but hopefully from this release forward we shouldn't see this problem again | 15:30 |
| scott-work | but i also notice that it has an importance of "high" so hopefully the bug will be addressed shortly after they begin to work on the lucid updates | 15:32 |
| rlameiro | scott-work: well, maybe is the best place to push for it :D | 15:36 |
| scott-work | apparently "ubuntu desktop" is the maintainer for "gnome-system-tools" and I'm not sure whom within that group is directly responsible for this application | 15:37 |
| scott-work | we would also need to directly talk with The.Muso, juss.i or per.sia while they are at UDS | 15:38 |
| scott-work | i wouldn't expect lucid updates to begin in earnest until after the UDS | 15:38 |
| scott-work | so i would suggest we wait until after the UDS to try to push this effort | 15:39 |
| scott-work | but you should do what you feel is appropriate | 15:40 |
| rlameiro | well, i hope it is possible to respin the isos... | 15:40 |
| rlameiro | scott-work: well, we must wait, but as this is a LTS, the ISO needs to be as stable and Bug free as possible, hence my concern | 15:43 |
| scott-work | rlameiro: you are correct that this would be an extreme problem with a new install for an uninitiated user | 15:46 |
| scott-work | i cannot comment on respinning the ISO, i will defer to others about the potential for this | 15:46 |
| scott-work | rlameiro: but would you be willing to create a wiki page about correcting the problem and email the mailing list and post on the forums about it? | 15:46 |
| rlameiro | the problem here, is that there is no other solution, you do need to have it working, because all the other possible solutions would need networking | 15:47 |
| rlameiro | scott-work: i would, but i dont know how to fix it... | 15:47 |
| scott-work | i thought you had installed network manager from the disc and used it instead? | 15:48 |
| scott-work | it is also possible to edit /etc/network/interfaces by hand | 15:48 |
| scott-work | in the bug Milan also suggested "install nm-applet (network-manager-gnome) package, and maybe run it using 'nm-applet' " | 15:49 |
| astraljava | Before NetworkManager has been measured again, I'd suggest editing /etc/network/interfaces by hand. It's not _that_ hard. :) | 15:50 |
| rlameiro | oh, a work around, well i could try to do it but at the moment i am a little bit busy finishing my final works for the Uni | 15:51 |
| rlameiro | astraljava: yea, true, i did that, but you need a wired network.... configuring wireless like that is no easy task | 15:52 |
| scott-work | this really makes me wonder about our user's hardware (i.e. desktop or laptop) and how their connecting to the internet | 15:59 |
| * scott-work suspects more and more users are using laptops (with firewire audio) and wireless for internet | 15:59 | |
| rlameiro | well, the teacher i just helped was using a laptop | 16:04 |
| rlameiro | and he uses a 3G connection device(usb) one, so he really needs the network manager | 16:04 |
| astraljava | Yeah, I hate it when you can't get it working with plain wvdial or something. | 16:06 |
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