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[12:52] <mrthraz> has anyone seen a fix for tX yet
[12:54] <astraljava> tX?
[12:55] <mrthraz> terminatorX
[12:55] <astraljava> What's the problem with it?
[12:56] <mrthraz> been crashing on mouse grab since 9.04
[13:04] <mrthraz> tX has been having a problem with the the XGrabPointer() call. triggers a 'BadAccess' error
[13:08] <mrthraz> sorry
[13:09] <astraljava> Has this bug been reported upstream?
[13:10] <astraljava> ...or even in LP?
[13:11] <mrthraz> yes
[13:11] <mrthraz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/terminatorx/+bug/469365
[13:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 469365 in terminatorx "terminatorX crashes after clicking on mouse grab button" [Undecided,New]
[13:20] <mrthraz> i was trying you use mixxx with a bcd3000 & an ion discover dj but mixxx's scratches sound horrible so i connected a dm2 to both mixxx and tX, using a bcf1010 to switch the midi assessments (you gotta love jack) but tX keeps crashing on me.
[13:21] <astraljava> Apparently upstream isn't too keen on solving the problem, the same bug has been reported already in 2007.
[13:46] <mrthraz> too bad, tX has the best scratch of anything out there open or closed source.
[13:46] <mrthraz> can anything be done?
[13:52] <astraljava> Yeah, keep harassing upstream to fix their product.
[13:56] <astraljava> ...or alternatively get someone to provide a patch that fixes the problem, then apply that for the packaging.
[14:12] <mrthraz> thanks:-[
[14:13] <astraljava> It's not ideal, but it's not a good sign either that upstream hasn't fixed such a grave problem.
[14:43] <tertl3_> warap
[14:46] <mrthraz> warap?
[14:46] <skx> warp? wrap?
[14:47] <mrthraz> war app
[14:52] <astraljava> Don't know what that would be. Dopewars? liquidwar? corewars? C'mon, give us a clue. :D
[14:53] <tertl3_> heh
[14:54] <tertl3_> warap is snaish for whats up
[14:54] <tertl3_> spanish*
[14:54] <tertl3_> you have to roll the 'r'
[14:54] <astraljava> Ahh... okay cool. :) thanks for the education. :)
[14:54] <tertl3_> no worries
[15:07]  * tertl3_ plays sudoku
[19:14] <RemunJ66> missing connections tab to configure my wlan card. Strange... Anyone here who can help me on fixing a wireless connection in Lucid?
[19:18] <RemunJ66> Was looking for an answer on lp but probably gnome system tools aren´t the default install in ubuntu 10.04?
[19:24] <skx> are you using Ubuntu Studio?
[19:27] <RemunJ66> Yes, Ubuntu Studio 10.04. I upgrades this a week ago or so.
[19:28] <skx> what do you want to do?
[19:28] <skx> which wireless card do you use?
[19:28] <skx> which kernel?
[19:28] <skx> have you googled for possible bugs regarding these two?
[19:29] <skx> open terminal
[19:29] <skx> uname -a
[19:29] <RemunJ66> Intel 2200 BG i think
[19:29] <skx> will tell you which kernel you use
[19:29] <skx> lspci
[19:29] <skx> will list pci devices including your wifi card probably
[19:31] <RemunJ66> Linus Acer-laptop 2.6.32-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 28 13:27:30 UTD 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:32] <RemunJ66> I had to type it in because i started this session on my HP Desktop and my Acer Laptop is not connected all the time.
[19:33] <astraljava> gnome-network-admin is missing an important tab in Lucid, this is a known bug. Should be handled for 10.04.01.
[19:34] <RemunJ66> So i did not have to uninstall anything and try something else? Canonical does not provide updates for Network, i just read on ubuntu software center.
[19:36] <astraljava> RemunJ66: If you have access to the repositories some other way, try downloading NetworkManager with all its dependencies and install them. Be aware that this might have an impact on realtime capabilities, though.
[19:36] <RemunJ66> IPW 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[19:37] <skx> he uses the generic kernel, astraljava
[19:37] <astraljava> skx: Makes no difference, the generic kernel does have incredible performance these days.
[19:38] <skx> but is not real time
[19:38] <skx> afaik
[19:38] <astraljava> RemunJ66: If not, we just have to figure out how to configure your wireless by /etc/network/interfaces
[19:38] <RemunJ66> Yes, generic kernel because astraljava helped me before on an issue about not having a GUI.
[19:39] <astraljava> skx: Well small enough latency anyway. There's no such thing as perfect realtimeness anyhow.
[19:40] <RemunJ66> Is NetworkManager the new deal?
[19:41] <astraljava> RemunJ66: Not really, but might help in connecting. Ubuntu Studio hasn't wanted to include it in default install because it did have an impact on performance, at least in some previous releases.
[19:43] <RemunJ66> I do not really need the -rt kernel on my laptop, because i am not a -rt performer really. More important is to get a wireless connection and a totally different one: Get a good working driver for Ati mobility radeon x700 PCI Express with 128mb vram :-)
[19:44] <astraljava> RemunJ66: Do you have same arch for the both of your laptops?
[19:45] <RemunJ66> The ati performance looks promising except my most used program Blender 3D makes me crazy at the moment, for as concerned when wording on the laptop. My desktop still uses Blender 3.49a on Karmic Koala (Studio version ofcource)
[19:46] <astraljava> I don't have much knowledge on ATi drivers, sorry, can't help you there.
[19:48] <Draggin> Good evening... I've had a bit of a strange event... I've upgraded to US 10.04 from 9.10 and it went pretty smoothly, except, after I rebooted, I was greeted by the most ghastly splash screen/boot screen.  It's essentially an ASCII version of the standard Ubuntu 10.04 splash screen and I'd very much like to get rid of it.  Excpet, when I try to install USplash in Synaptic, it tells me that it would basically need to uninstall every si
[19:49] <astraljava> Draggin: You got cut off. "need to uninstall every si..."
[19:50] <Draggin> it tells me that it would basically need to uninstall every single other package on my system to avoid dependency breakage... What gives?
[19:51] <astraljava> Draggin: Can you pastebin the message from the package manager, please? Hard to tell without seeing the actual messages.
[19:51] <Draggin> Okay - one minute
[19:51] <RemunJ66> s/n:lxa66050835300d74eem01
[19:51] <RemunJ66> Aspire 1692WLMi
[19:52] <astraljava> RemunJ66: Can you post the results of the command `uname -a`, please? From both laptops.
[19:54] <RemunJ66> i just use one desktop astaljava. Why do u think otherwise???
[19:54] <Draggin> http://imagebin.ca/view/g4AVXb.html
[19:55] <astraljava> RemunJ66: Oh sorry, misread it. What I'm getting at, is that can you download the needed packages with the machine that _is_ connected to the internet, _for_ the one that isn't.
[19:55] <RemunJ66> i thought u were talking about the bottom of my laptop to see for info there, but my slang is not so good you know?!
[19:57] <astraljava> RemunJ66: No. :) I would want to see the output of `uname -a` on both of your machines. If it differs re: arch, you need to download the packages via package.ubuntu.com, instead of apt-get. :)
[19:57] <RemunJ66> Ch.t When i closed the lid and laptop went standby and then i opened.... oops, no desktop... just a few seconds noisy screen and now black again???
[19:58] <Draggin> astraljava... I think I may have found a solution at http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml I'm still checking it out, but I'm still wondering... What would cause an attempted installation of USplash to want to remove everything else?
[19:58] <astraljava> Draggin: Can you do `sudo apt-get install usplash-theme-ubuntustudio` in a terminal, please? And pastebin the output of that message.
[19:58] <RemunJ66> no escape but to cold boot up again?
[19:58] <Draggin> I'm scared of issuing that command... :)
[19:58] <Draggin> Wouldn't it just do it anyway then?
[19:58] <astraljava> Draggin: Some kind of conflict with installed meta-packages. Let me see what it says on that page firsrt.
[19:58] <Draggin> And start uninstalling all my other stuff?
[19:58] <astraljava> first*
[20:01] <astraljava> Draggin: Weird, seems it's conflicting with something. Have you installed Ubuntu Studio, or plain Ubuntu vanilla?
[20:01] <Draggin> http://pastebin.org/236976
[20:01] <Draggin> There's the CLI output
[20:01] <Draggin> Nope, I upgraded to Ubuntu Studio 10.04 from Ubuntu Studio 9.10
[20:03] <astraljava> Draggin: That is strange. Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list, please?
[20:03] <Draggin> One moment
[20:04] <Draggin> http://pastebin.org/236977
[20:06] <astraljava> Draggin: Comment out all the karmic lines, and the dvd line at the top, then do `sudo apt-get update`, and then try to install usplash again.
[20:07] <Draggin> Hmmm... I didn't notice that... Lemme see if that does anything good...
[20:09] <RemunJ66> After changing kernel to generic last time i just see a blinking cursor when starting up Lucid and after 30 seconds or so a few seconds colorfull noisy horizontal flickering beams and then the startup tune and finely my peacefull desktop :-)
[20:09] <Draggin> Nope... Gives exactly the same error...
[20:10] <astraljava> Draggin: What's the output of `apt-cache policy usplash`
[20:11] <Draggin> usplash:
[20:11] <Draggin>   Installed: (none)
[20:11] <Draggin>   Candidate: 0.5.51
[20:11] <Draggin>   Version table:
[20:11] <Draggin>      0.5.51 0
[20:11] <Draggin>         500 http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-archive/ lucid/universe Packages
[20:11] <Draggin>      0.5.49 0
[20:11] <Draggin>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[20:11] <Draggin> Oops... That was meant to be a one-liner...
[20:11] <Draggin> Sorry
[20:11] <astraljava> Draggin: No problem. :) Just use pastebin for longer messages. :)
[20:12] <astraljava> Draggin: `sudo apt-get install usplash`
[20:12] <Draggin> I already did - like I said, it still gave me the same error as before
[20:13] <astraljava> Draggin: No, not uslash-theme-ubuntustudio, but usplash.
[20:14] <Draggin> oh, my bad
[20:14] <RemunJ66> Coffee time here, some participants??? :) Will be back later i hope. Succes for Draggin and his issue.
[20:15] <astraljava> RemunJ66: Welcome back later. :)
[20:15] <Draggin> Hmmm... That has some interesting output... http://pastebin.org/236987
[20:15] <Draggin> Thanks Remunj66
[20:17] <astraljava> Draggin: Holy crap!
[20:17] <Draggin> Errmmm... Wot? You found the cure for cancer in the output...? :P
[20:17] <astraljava> Draggin: Looks like your install is totally screwed. :D
[20:17] <Draggin> :((
[20:17] <Draggin> Nooooo...
[20:17] <astraljava> Draggin: But we'll get it fixed, don't worry.
[20:18] <Draggin> What could have caused it?
[20:18] <astraljava> Draggin: I suspect the conflicting lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, but am not sure.
[20:19] <astraljava> Draggin: Let me dig up some info for a while, I won't go away until this gets sorted out, promise. :D
[20:19] <Draggin> Hehe, thanks, that's really cool of you
[20:19] <Draggin> I'll go get some tea in the meantime
[20:19] <astraljava> Draggin: Sure thing.
[20:23] <astraljava> Draggin: Need the output of `apt-cache policy lilypond-data`, `apt-cache policy initramfs-tools` and `apt-cache policy upstart`, please.
[20:23] <Draggin> k...
[20:25] <Draggin> lilypond-data: http://pastebin.org/236994 initramfs-tools: http://pastebin.org/236996 upstart: http://pastebin.org/236997
[20:29] <astraljava> Draggin: I'm afraid the mirror you're using isn't completely up-to-date. Can you pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get full-upgrade`, please?
[20:40] <Draggin> Cracker...
[20:40] <Draggin> Didn't see you responded again..
[20:40] <Draggin> what does 'full-upgrade' do again?
[20:41] <astraljava> Draggin: It attempts to upgrade all packages, including adding new packages, or removing obsolete ones.
[20:42] <Draggin> Okay
[20:42] <Draggin> Here's apt-get update: http://pastebin.org/237024
[20:43] <astraljava> Draggin: That looks like alright to me.
[20:43] <Draggin> Hmm... Can't do full-upgrade... Says it's an invalid operation
[20:43] <astraljava> Draggin: Uhh... weird. Well try `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[20:44] <Draggin> http://pastebin.org/237025
[20:45] <astraljava> Draggin: Okay. After that, try to do `sudo apt-get install usplash` again, and post the output.
[20:46] <Draggin> So I should go through with that one then...?
[20:46] <Draggin> It's still waiting at the prompt for me
[20:46] <astraljava> Draggin: Absolutely.
[20:48] <Draggin> Still waiting for it to complete... Be with you now
[20:48] <astraljava> Draggin: No worries. :)
[21:05] <Draggin> Nope...
[21:05] <Draggin> Still the same issue...
[21:05] <Draggin> Same errormessage
[21:06] <astraljava> Uhh... please pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list again, I need to take a good look at it. In fact, I'm afraid we need to change that for some other mirror.
[21:10] <Draggin> http://pastebin.org/236977
[21:12] <astraljava> Draggin: Is that the same as before? You haven't commented out the dvd line nor the karmic lines.
[21:12] <Draggin> Oops... My bad :) Wrong link
[21:13] <Draggin> http://pastebin.org/237054
[21:13] <Draggin> There's the updated one
[21:17] <astraljava> Draggin: I see nothing wrong with that, so I have to assume that the mirror itself is not fully up-to-date.
[21:17] <Draggin> Okay... Let me try and switch mirrors quickly and see if that helps at all...
[21:23] <Draggin> Okay, hang on - after updating the mirror, what should I do first? apt-get install usplash?
[21:26] <astraljava> Draggin: `sudo apt-get update` is always the first.
[21:26] <astraljava> Draggin: After that, try `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`.
[21:27] <astraljava> Draggin: Only then, try installing separate packages.
[21:27] <Draggin> Yeah, I know about the update bit :) Just after that... Let's see
[21:28] <Draggin> dist-upgrade says there's nothing to do...
[21:28] <Draggin> And usplash still gives the same issue...
[21:31] <Draggin> Seems like it might be time to give it up, at least for today...
[21:35] <astraljava> Draggin: Sorry for the delay, having some connectivity issues.
[21:36] <Draggin> All good...
[21:36] <Draggin> I need to start getting going though - have to go to the market really early tomorrow morning :)
[21:36] <astraljava> Draggin: Can you do `apt-cache policy usplash` now?
[21:36] <astraljava> Oh okay.
[21:36] <Draggin> Thanks very much for all the help though...
[21:37] <astraljava> Draggin: No worries, I'm sorry I couldn't resolve it though.
[21:37] <Draggin> I still can't figure out why this happened, since the site that I chose to update from is a local mirror that duplicates the official Ubuntu repositories on a daily basis...
[21:38] <astraljava> Draggin: There's something really weird going on, but I'm sure once we figure it out we'll get things going.
[21:38] <Draggin> I'll check to see if the other instructions I got do anything, but after looking at it, it seems it might be for a slightly different problem than my root-problem (not having a real splash screen)
[21:40] <astraljava> Draggin: There's something wrong at the foundations level, not being able to install usplash tells me so. But let's continue this again when you have time, I'm sure it will get sorted out.
[21:40] <Draggin> Cool, will do
[21:40] <Draggin> Thanks again :) Chat later!
[21:40] <astraljava> Draggin: Will do. :D Later.