[04:27] <IdleOne> does the mini.iso ask if you want to setup a root account?
[04:36] <elky> I do wonder what would happen if one did not. Sounds like an odd question, really.
[04:37] <elky> I can't see why they'd do away with sudo for a trimmed down system, to be honest.
[04:37] <IdleOne> elky: asking because there is a couple of users in #ubuntu saying that it does
[04:38] <IdleOne> I am testdrving the mini.iso now to see
[04:38] <elky> I'd suggest they're not understanding the question they're asked in the setup.
[04:42] <IdleOne> well I just clearly saw the setup say. Retrieving sudo
[04:42] <IdleOne> soooo
[04:44] <elky> The installer probably says something liek "set up your user, and password. this password is what you need to give when it asks for root password" or something with a similar message but more articulate
[04:45] <IdleOne> elky: yeah just like the default CD installer dopes
[04:45] <IdleOne> does*
[04:45] <elky> which to somoene who doesn't understand sudo could sound like it was saying to set up the root password
[04:45] <elky> yeah
[04:46] <IdleOne> going to finish the install just to make certain for myself
[04:46] <elky> virtualisation ftw
[04:46] <IdleOne> and btw testdrive is nice
[04:46] <IdleOne> +1 jono
[04:52] <elky> ubottu's really having issues lately, eh
[04:52] <bazhang> is sudobash banned, and ban evading?
[04:53] <IdleOne> @bansearch sudobash
[04:53] <elky> considering any time he shows up he acts banworthy, i'd be surprised if he's not.
[04:53] <IdleOne> err yeah with ubottu not here that won't work
[04:53] <bazhang> just checking the bantracker now
[04:54] <elky> which is going it's usual pace, i guess
[04:57] <IdleOne> elky: like expected when the installer asks to setup a user it does mention root but only to let the user know that the user being installed will have the ability to perform root actions.
[04:58] <Flannel> IdleOne: mini is exactly like the alternate installer (they both use debian-installer)
[04:58] <Flannel> the only difference is mini doesn't contain any packages on the CD, so you have to download them
[04:58] <IdleOne> Flannel: yup I figured as much but got told in #ubuntu I was wrong
[04:58] <Flannel> IdleOne: By whom and when?
[04:58] <IdleOne> So I thought what better way to make sure then to try in VM
[04:59] <Flannel> Oh, gotcha.
[04:59] <IdleOne> half hour ago by GC... and lucitu
[04:59] <Flannel> The only time debian-installer does that is if you kick it into expert mode
[05:01] <Flannel> and then it also asks you a bajillion other questions (standard expert mode questions, shadow passwords, all the minutia of circa 2000 linux installers)
[05:01] <IdleOne> err
[05:01] <IdleOne> I hated linux back then
[05:01] <IdleOne> tone of questions I had no idea how to answer
[05:01] <Flannel> yep!
[05:02] <IdleOne> that is why I ended up waiting another 4 years before trying again
[05:18] <IdleOne> hahah omg I forgot the username I used for the VM
[05:18] <Flannel> IdleOne: recovery console
[05:19] <IdleOne> How do I get to the recovery console?
[05:19] <Flannel> IdleOne: boot menu, beyond that, I don't know.
[05:20] <IdleOne> yeah I don't get a boot menu
[05:20] <Flannel> Or, mount the filesystem [somehow] and check your passwd file
[05:21] <IdleOne> I don't believe I did this
[05:21] <IdleOne> I should lart myself
[05:22] <IdleOne> well I got to get to sleep anyway worried about it tomorrow. Big day of paint ball in the morning :)
[05:22] <IdleOne> worry*
[05:22] <IdleOne> nighters
[06:07] <elky> or you could just hax0r grub :)
[08:31] <gord> i hax0r grub with my leet powers, oh wait no, i still try and look for a menu.lst
[09:06] <fuzthewuz> sup, my retard brother just got me banned
[09:06] <belieber> i'm not his brother
[09:06] <belieber> :P
[09:06] <belieber> i'm belieber!
[09:07] <belieber> <3
[09:40] <systix> Hello, I was nocked out of #ubuntu because im vuln. to the DCC exploit. just updated my firmware and looking to be 'tested'
[09:41] <systix> as request of #ubuntu-read-topic
[09:44] <tsimpson> systix: you were systix__ at the time, try /nick'ing to that and typing "test me" in the channel
[09:44] <tsimpson> (it's based on nick, not host)
[09:45] <tsimpson> looks like you failed
[09:45] <systix__> that seemed to work, thanks. although im still vuln aparently :(
[09:45] <tsimpson> did you change ports?
[09:48] <systix__> tsimpson, I have done what the ubuntu documentation has said: firmware update on router AND ic changed freenode port to 8001. still getting the problem aparently
[09:49] <tsimpson> are you sure you're connected via 8001?
[09:49] <systix__> well iv set irc.freenode.net/8001 in my network list, forced that connection only and reconnected
[09:50] <systix__> wait, we o apear to be using 6667 again.
[09:50] <tsimpson> yeah, xchat is strange like that
[09:50] <tsimpson> try disconnecting first
[09:50] <tsimpson> then changing ports
[09:50] <systix__> shouldnt is be irc.freenode.net:8001
[09:50] <systix__> not a forward slash
[09:50] <tsimpson> no, xchat uses '/' not ':'
[09:50] <tsimpson> like I said, it's strange
[09:51] <systix__> yeah lol. i will close and reopen my client
[09:51] <systix__> back in a sec :P
[09:51] <systix> seemed to fix it :)
[09:52] <systix> tsimpson, thanks for the advice. bye bye
[09:52] <tsimpson> ... but you didn't test
[09:52] <knome> :P
[13:32] <topyli> !mark oCean #ubuntu-offtopic memo sent suggesting change of chloroform quit message to a nice one
[13:32] <topyli> @mark oCean #ubuntu-offtopic memo sent suggesting change of chloroform quit message to a nice one
[13:32] <topyli> syntax nitpicker :(
[15:32] <bazhang> nice
[18:06] <marienz> mind if I quiet DuctTapeCoder? You probably remember him as the guy repeatedly sharing his love of madonna on many channels.
[18:06] <marienz> you may also remember him as BabaBooey, at least I think he was on #-offtopic using that nick a while back.
[18:08] <marienz> hmm, he might be behaving now.
[18:16] <bsmith093> could someone please test me?
[18:16] <bsmith093> i got the buggy router thing DCC exploit
[18:30] <nigelb> can someone help with spam in #ubuntu-bugs please?
[21:46] <funkyHat> blarr
[21:50] <funkyHat> I guess my second +q was wrong too :/
[21:50] <Flannel> +q is quiet, you likely want +b
[21:51] <funkyHat> I mean I don't understand why the +q that is still active doesn't seem to be working
[21:52] <Flannel> funkyHat: +q won't stop someone from joining a channel, just talking in it
[21:52] <funkyHat> But vito's host mask matches that :/
[21:53] <Flannel> funkyHat: Matches what?
[21:53] <funkyHat> Oh. Never mind -_- just me getting caught out by the extra _
[21:55] <Flannel> Now I'm really confused
[21:55] <Flannel> what does vitos match?
[21:55] <Flannel> or almost match?
[21:57] <funkyHat> the troll joined as vito__
[21:58] <funkyHat> So I thought they were the same person
[21:58] <Flannel> Ah
[23:55]  * jpds thinks that diabolical_ isn't being very helpful in -server.