=== PyObjectPtr is now known as static_name === static_name is now known as apachelogger [02:54] Sarvatt: did you notice xserver-xorg-video-intel's last two snapshots being terrible? [04:22] hyperair: you mean the last 6? [04:22] the fact i uploaded 6 new snapshots in a day says yes I did :D [04:23] still have to force disable pageflipping too :( [04:24] oh goodie 11 new commits too, i'm scared to update it again since its at least mostly working and it's been broken every day :D [04:26] Sarvatt: oh heh. xD [04:26] i'll update it at midnight (30 minutes away) and make sure its not screwed before uploading it this time [04:26] Sarvatt: ok cool. [04:26] Sarvatt: i've got an old deb which works =p [04:26] -rw-r--r-- 1 hyperair hyperair 554338 2010-05-15 05:02 xserver-xorg-video-intel_2%3a2.11.0+git20100511.8562b7bc-0ubuntu0sarvatt_amd64.deb [04:26] the one on there now isn't working for you? [04:26] er artifacts all over. [04:26] ah thats the 5-08 one [04:26] yesterday's one just had issues with compiz's shadows. [04:27] i just said screw it and rebranded the 05-08 as 05-11 because it was all kinds of messed up on 5-10 [04:27] so the shadows went missing, and then some of the selected items' borders got bolder. [04:27] what one did you try? [04:27] because the 5-14 is working ok here [04:27] all of the 5-13 ones were messed up, i was adding commits to that instead of doing a new checkout as they went in [04:27] 2:2.11.0+git20100513.8de09a07-0ubuntu0sarvatt~lucid and 2:2.11.0+git20100512.6c27f6e4-0ubuntu0sarvatt [04:28] aha 5-14 eh. [04:28] 2:2.11.0+git20100514.4be8d7eb-0ubuntu0sarvatt - not having any problems with that outside of the drawer applet going black sometimes [04:28] drawer applet.. haven't used that. [04:28] but theres 11 new commits since that one now too [04:29] lol [04:29] i think a new quarterly release is due soon, they usually shove in a ton of things that break this way every time right before it :D [04:30] at least its fixed at the end of the day every day the past week, instead of being broken for the whole month of november last time :D [04:31] heh i remember soemthing of that sort [04:31] i switched from aptitude forbid-version to aptitude hold [04:31] lemme know if 5-14 works for you, better off holding off until tomorrow to update when the fixes for these 11 commits hit if it does [04:32] okay, i'll go install it now. [04:35] okay, shadows are missing, the panel icon for the main menu in gnome-panel turns black occasionally [04:35] i try not to let it stay broken though even if it means i have to upload an old working snapshot [04:35] but other than that, it's fine. [04:35] ok will update it and see how it goes then [04:35] * Sarvatt jumps ahead a time zone and updates things [04:35] lol [04:40] what shadows are missing? I don't see that at all [04:41] uploaded 05-15 [04:42] Sarvatt: gtk-window-decorator usually puts drop shadow.s [04:42] shadows* [04:42] ah i use mutter [04:42] heh [04:43] woke up to it looking like this this morning - http://sarvatt.com/downloads/screenshot.png [04:43] couldn't screenshot the nasty constant flicker though :) [04:45] if this one is screwed up i'm just going to put the 05-08 (thats the same as your 05-11 one) back on there for a bit [04:49] i see. [04:49] * hyperair notes that Sarvatt's machine is called asuka. [04:49] NGE? [04:50] yep :) [04:50] heheh [04:53] ahh go figure huge build queue for chromium/mozilla :) [04:57] seems to be working fine [04:57] shadows are messed up, I see what you mean [04:58] switched to compiz and i see a light border a few pixels away from the edge of windows and where the shadow should be is completely transparent [04:59] http://sarvatt.com/downloads/screenshot2.png [04:59] can see the grey border there [05:05] i probably would have never noticed that since i use everything maximized anyway :) [05:07] stinks that its impossible to disable vsync now on intel without an env variable [05:08] tried setting vblank_mode to 0 in /etc/drirc and ~/.drirc but it doesn't stick, vblank_mode=0 glapp works though [05:10] env variable? [05:11] what's wrong with vsync? i have it turned on anyway [05:11] and you can set your .xprofile/.gnomerc to export the var [05:13] well for one its totally screwed up on 945 [05:13] if you dont move the mouse constantly to generate interrupts it lags to all hell [05:14] 20 fps glxgears ftw! :) [05:15] ouch [05:30] ouch, libdrm in xorg-edgers picked up an epoch somewhere in the past month? how the heck did that happen, i dont see forcing one in my history and dont think anyone else uploaded it [05:35] argh I did do it when I updated to xserver 1.8 since i reused a command updating a driver - ./auto-xorg-git *-e 1* -d origin/ubuntu -g -p libdrm -a 0ubuntu0sarvatt -t + [05:38] guess it'd be more evil to delete it and reupload without an epoch since it'd strand people with the epoch version unless they manually downgraded and anyone switching away *needs* to use ppa-purge [05:39] good morning [08:17] hi lucazade [08:17] morning [08:19] i've read that 2.6.34 should fix /proc/acpi/video, in that way ignoreacpi could be removed [08:20] and it seems there is a fix for the psb module in the intel mailing list, we should look at that [08:24] this seems similar, maybe we can do the same kind of patch - http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/1224507 ? [08:24] I don't have 2.6.34 here, maybe I'll be able to install it and test later today [08:27] looking at === |Bernardo| is now known as Bernardo|away [11:21] Sarvatt: i seem to have gotten an upgrade for xserver-xorg-video-intel which fixes the black-icon syndrome but not brought back shadows. [12:18] RAOF: fyi i took your vesa patch and added http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/driver/xserver-xorg-video-vesa.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c3fb055a63c2eca23b3ba6b585484f010e2ee06 to get a package dependency on libdrm2 [13:20] hyperair: shadows fixed in git now, just uploaded it === Bernardo|away is now known as Bernardo [16:07] ok looks like FBC is just plain broken on a large number of 8086:2a42 devices as well, I was thinking it might be lenovo bios specific there - https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/538648 [16:07] Launchpad bug 538648 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[Intel GM45] Irregular sync flashes (Lenovo T500, Dell Insp. 1545)" [Medium,Triaged] [16:10] i dont think i can write up a patch to disable just FBC on that specific chipset since the structs encompass the whole generation, should we just quirk the powersave module parameter on that pci id for now? [17:30] ricotz: ahh that dh_gconf problem is hitting your maverick mutter ppa too huh? [17:31] looking at the debhelper changelog it should have been fixed but the fix isn't working [17:31] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [17:31] mutter-common: Depends: gconf2 (>= 2.28.1-2) but 2.28.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed [17:34] Sarvatt, hadnt looked really into it yet, but it seems to be another problem [17:37] Sarvatt, did you had a look at failure protocol of gnome-shell? [17:38] nope i dont use gnome-shell at all, looks like crap on a netbook [17:39] ok, just thought so, because you mentioned this problem [17:39] it's dh_gconf in debhelper for sure bringing in that dep, addsubstvar($package, "misc:Depends", "gconf2 (>= 2.28.1-2)") unless $gconf_dep; [17:40] its run by /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/gnome.mk [17:42] i guess maverick will get new gconf soon enough [17:44] Sarvatt, thanks for bringing this up [17:45] ricotz: its affecting a ton of other packages in maverick right now, just brought it up in #ubuntu-desktop [17:45] but UDS and all.. :D [17:46] really wish xchat would release a new version already, it's insane how much faster svn is [17:46] right ;-) [17:47] takes close to a minute to start and load the scrollback for 32 channels on this atom cpu, 4 seconds with one of the commits backported :D [17:47] having the same gconf problem with that though thats why i looked into it [17:49] sounds like a hell of an improvement [17:49] isnt there a ppa for xchat yet? [17:49] so much stuff fails to build with gcc 4.5 though [17:50] well I built it here - https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/1133313/+listing-archive-extra [17:50] http://xchat.svn.sf.net/viewvc/xchat?view=rev&revision=1386 thats the commit that made such a huge difference [17:51] nice! [17:52] perhaps you can think of backporting the patches for mesa from nvfx-next-6b ;-) [17:53] g2g, sorry [17:53] that probably needs a lot of work to bring it up to date for master by now? [17:55] just run auto-xorg-git like normal, control+z at the patching pause, delete debian/ and replace with git://sarvatt.com/mesa.git and git pull that branch into it and then let it finish [17:56] or ./auto-xorg-git -H hooks -g -d origin/ubuntu -t "~" -p mesa -a 0ubuntu0ricotz -b nvfx-next-6b [17:57] (and do the normal delete debian/ and replace with the other at the patching pause) [17:57] just saying that incase he reads the irc logs :) [18:05] ricotz: if you read this later I uploaded the nvfx-next-6b branch to https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/nouveau/+packages [18:34] yo sarvatt, alpha channel broken again in edgers? [18:39] its been in various stages of brokenness all week, latest one is working fine here though now [18:40] D: [18:43] if 2:2.11.0+git20100515.9c3da713-0ubuntu0sarvatt3 is screwed up for you and you have the old debs around the 05-11 one should be fine [18:43] 2 new commits 5 minutes ago... [18:43] thats the 0508 checkout with a later date since the breakages started on 0510 [18:44] sheesh I looked when he asked too! [18:44] LLStarks: new version about to be uploaded.. [18:48] i see [18:48] thanks [18:49] whenever something breaks in edgers, it's either alpha channel or gallium being a noob [18:50] yep, lucky the breakage doesn't last for months at a time anymore though :) [18:51] maverick will be mesa except for nouveau, right?\ [18:51] what do you mean? [18:51] mesa classic? [18:51] yup [18:52] yeah.. if nouveau is there it'll be a seperate package unless they had other plans at UDS [18:52] lucid was classic+nouveau? [18:52] no nouveau in lucid [18:52] or no 3d [18:52] nouveau has a classic component too for older cards [18:52] wait, it didn't make the cut? i thought it did. [18:52] *it = nouveau [18:52] no way [18:53] it would have been crazy to ship nouveau gallium from 7.7.1 [18:53] anyway, i'm finding i915/i945 gallium to be terrible. broken desktop rendering in 2d. no compositing whatsoever. [18:54] no 3d. [18:54] this is 0.4 i think [18:55] 915 is working fine here, you using some crazy compiz plugins maybe? [18:56] by working fine i mean i haven't seen any artifacts or had any crashes, the classic one is still way better [18:58] i wish i could enable occlusion and fragment shader on gallium [18:58] OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM GEM 20100330 DEVELOPMENT x86/MMX/SSE2 [18:58] OpenGL version string: 2.0 Mesa 7.9-devel [18:58] OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 [18:59] can only get opengl 1.4 and no glsl on gallium. [18:59] LLVM=1 LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 yourapp? :D [18:59] lemme try. [19:02] thats with libgl1-mesa-dri-gallium installed [19:02] whoops, no llvm dep on that package [19:03] opengl 2.0 with classic and driconf tweaks. opengl 1.3 with gallium. i don't get it. [19:04] nice [19:04] compiz works now [19:04] oh probably because you're using the classic dri lib for AIGLX, it doesn't honor the --with-dri-searchpath thing I'm doing [19:04] might be software renderer [19:04] aiglx and xgl [19:04] haven't heard of those since the beryl days [19:05] need to move /usr/lib/dri-gallium/i915_dri.so to /usr/lib/dri/ [19:05] these days, compiz just works. [19:05] move the old one out of the way and link it or whatever, haven't worked that part out yet [19:05] is there any point using i915g? [19:05] nope [19:06] people read phoronix and think its better :) [19:07] that's what i thought [19:07] looks like it hasn't changed in a month or so [19:07] it changed in the last month?! [19:08] must have been a big api rework and they just fixed everything :) [19:09] there was a bunch of commits from jakob mid april [19:10] fatal x crashes. wonky metacity and gnome-panel. [19:10] i'll stick to classic for now. [19:10] "for now"... [19:10] LLStarks: just curious, why did you think it was even supposed to be usable? [19:11] i never expected it to be. [19:11] then what are you trying to do? [19:11] get a stable 2d desktop. [19:11] with xorg-edgers..? :) [19:12] i don't see why gallium would affect the desktop when compositing is disabled. [19:12] edgers can be pretty stable. besides, i love bleeding edge. [19:13] "i love bleeding edge" and "i want a stable 2d desktop". interesting. [19:14] i use the word stable lightly [19:14] things can be screwed up under the hood, but everything should look right. [19:31] guess i'll back those two patches back out, sick of uploading intel for tonight :) http://sarvatt.com/downloads/screenshot2.png [19:55] yeaaah i need to stop updating crap today, i installed the gallium package to mess with llvmpipe there and thats what was causing the rendering problems with mutter :D === Bernardo is now known as Bernardo|away