[00:00] <mkquist> alket: might check this... http://projects.gnome.org/deskbar-applet/
[00:00] <Kalisto> Xethron, its a legacy driver.. so you might be out of luck
[00:00] <Xethron> Is it bad to install a legacy driver?
[00:01] <Kalisto> Xethron, check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=703895
[00:01] <keenken> how do i figure out if anything is signed in my name?? cars houses creditcards anything....
[00:02] <Kalisto> Xethron, it just means ati no longer updates or supports it
[00:02] <Xethron> aaah... ok. thanks
[00:03] <josefine> anybodu who could help me get my wireless to autoconnet without asking for code
[00:03] <Kalisto> Xethron, i would def give it a go
[00:03] <tonsofpcs> josefine: NetworkManager appplet works here...
[00:04] <Kalisto> Xethron, just make sure you have a ubuntu install cd in case you need to rescue your system
[00:05] <soksok_36123> guys know in bt4
[00:05] <josefine> when i start mu comp it asks for keyringcode
[00:06] <Xethron> Thanks Kalisto ... One more question. It seems it says I should do what is done on this page... Does it seem right? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide
[00:06] <wildbat> hi, anyone know where do i set gvfs option? i wanna mount some share upon login and make change the permission setting of the mount.
[00:06] <alket> is it possible to change GDM in lucid ?
[00:07] <Xethron> Sorry for pointing you to all the websites... hehe. Really appreciated! :)
[00:07] <grspence__> what would the command be to change the permission of a directory to give read/write access to all users?
[00:07] <jack_> Wassup
[00:07] <wizard_> excellent................ thank you, that is what i was missing
[00:08] <jack_> Does anyone know why it says "WeFri" in the upper right corner of my desktop?
[00:09] <kensanata> When my iBook wakes up from sleep, it will reconnect to the wireless. When I move the laptop out of range, I will loose my connection. How can reconnect my wireless without closing the lid, waiting a few seconds and reopening it? (a workaround I discovered a few minutes ago)
[00:09] <jack_> Wassup
[00:10] <kensanata> I'm sure there must be script somewhere on my system that tells Ubuntu what to do when waking up from sleep. If I only knew its name.
[00:10] <gianni> !list
[00:10] <KaffeeJunky123> Hi, is it possible to install ubuntu on a free partition from a running linux system?
[00:11] <CkhiKuzad> every time i have upgraded (since 8.04 to 8.10!) ubuntu has messed up to the point of being FUBAR. is there any way to upgrade on a seperate partition, keeping my current ubuntu distro?
[00:11] <kensanata> CkhiKuzad: You'd need two running systems in parallel.
[00:11] <kensanata> They could both share your single home partition.
[00:11] <flexor> way easier is probably to just buy a new hard disk, clone it, upgrade, then choose which to boot from
[00:11] <CkhiKuzad> i have winblows, ubuntu, and debian
[00:12] <CkhiKuzad> i want to wipe out windows, and put 10.04 over it.
[00:13] <kensanata> CkhiKuzad: That should work.
[00:13] <BluesKaj> then format the ntfs to ext4 and install there
[00:13] <CkhiKuzad> does ubuntu in its installed form have the live-cd installer program in it still?
[00:13] <CkhiKuzad> because i could do it easily with it.
[00:13] <Subby> how to get manpages for syscalls like socket() ?
[00:13] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, on my netbook, i have the hdd split like : 4gb(swap), 10gb(ubuntu9.10system), 20gb(ubuntu10.04system) , the rest ( /home)
[00:14] <KaffeeJunky123> nvm I found a solution
[00:14] <surething> how can I make ubuntu render fonts like mac?
[00:14] <CkhiKuzad> (my cd drive burnt out yesterday, trying to boot up a 10.04 livecd, and it wont work with any cds now. i even opened it and tried to figure out if something is jamming it)
[00:14] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, take a usb drive to a machine that can boot from cd and make it into a usbbootdisk
[00:15] <CkhiKuzad> my computer is from 1999.
[00:15] <CkhiKuzad> no usb boot for me.
[00:15] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, netboot then
[00:15] <Kai_> Hello. I recently updated to the latest kernel and the proprietary nvidia drivers are dead. Why? D:
[00:15] <CkhiKuzad> so is it possible to maybe download the installer program like i would find in the livecd, and use it to install on a separate partition?
[00:15] <BluesKaj> CkhiKuzad, unfortunately cdrom drives don't last very long , fortunately you buy them for 35bucks
[00:15] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, actually yes
[00:15] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix, how?
[00:15] <Zorge> others find empathy likes to close chats / the entire program at random?
[00:15] <Kai_> Even if I use an old kernel things are still messed up. It's fine in Windows though.
[00:15] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, i saw instructions for how to do this just the other day
[00:16] <arand> What does actually XSBC mean (c.f. XSBC-Original-Maintainer: in ubuntu packages)
[00:16] <schlaftier> surething: what is the difference?
[00:16] <CkhiKuzad> and BluesKaj: i dont know if you have a job or not, but i am 15.5 and i dont have a license, so i cant get a job anywhere where i can get hired.
[00:16] <sugoruyo> hi all, i got a kick question for any of you mac users in here: how do i get sound on my headphones/speakers?
[00:16] <BluesKaj> usb install maybe , CkhiKuzad
[00:16] <hotmonkeyluv> I am building a system that I want to put a Phenom II x6 into, and 3 or 4  ATI 5770s. What chipset would you recommend? I've heard of the 790x being a good one, but wanted some other thoughts. Fire away!
[00:16] <sugoruyo> kick = quick* (i'm sleepy)
[00:16] <hotmonkeyluv> I want it to be linux-friendly too!
[00:17] <CkhiKuzad> sugoruyo, this is an Ubuntu channel. its not mac
[00:17] <flexor> 3 or 4 5770's?  what the hell are you doing?
[00:17] <hotmonkeyluv> I have quite a few monitors
[00:17] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix, do you have the link to that howto?
[00:17] <sugoruyo> like i said, i'm sleepy, forgot to mention this concerns Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid
[00:17] <sugoruyo> on older versions (i think 9.04) it used to be controlled by the "Surround" slider in the mixer
[00:18] <sugoruyo> however in this one there is no such thing
[00:18] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, cant remember the link but this might give you some idea : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948
[00:18] <schlaftier> sugoruyo: I am running Ubuntu on an iMac5,1 and it worked out of the box. What kind of Mac do you have?
[00:18] <sugoruyo> MacBook 2,1
[00:18] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, i remember it being a bit easier than that though
[00:18] <gdoteof> Hi does anyone have a realtek alc662 or otherwise know how to get the microphone to be registered by programs?
[00:19] <schlaftier> sugoruyo: do the internal speakers work?
[00:19] <BluesKaj> !USB | CkhiKuzad
[00:19] <gdoteof> If i turn the mic volume up in alsamixer, it pipes out the speakers, but I can't get any sound recording programs to work
[00:19] <mkquist> airtonix: doesnt that require an image being on another (server) machine to boot from?
[00:19] <sugoruyo> schlaftier: the speakers work fine
[00:19] <airtonix> mkquist, no this is different.
[00:19] <CkhiKuzad> BluesKaj: i have said twice that i can NOT do usb boot.
[00:19] <mkquist> airtonix: so what does it boot from?
[00:19] <schlaftier> sugoruyo: open a terminal and type: alsamixer
[00:19] <sugoruyo> schlaftier: and i know it's no h/w issue either
[00:20] <schlaftier> sugoruyo: check if you have Master, Headphone and Speaker
[00:20] <BluesKaj> oh sorry to hear that , CkhiKuzad :(
[00:20] <gdoteof> My speakers work fine, just not my microphone!
[00:20] <CkhiKuzad> yeah, it sucks, BluesKaj. i have tried to update the BIOS, but failed miserably.
[00:21] <sugoruyo> schlaftier: i have master speaker and speaker 1, the latter was muted - i unmuted it and i have sound, thank you
[00:21] <schlaftier> sugoruyo: you're welcome, glad I could help :)
[00:21] <airtonix> mkquist, it requires you have an existing ubuntu setup wit ha working grub, then you refactor the grub list to add a new entry which creates a loopback device of an iso and mounts that
[00:21] <sugoruyo> on a sidenote why has such functionality been removed from the standard panel widget?
[00:21] <ssle2> =http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/fsn0BJff
[00:21] <ssle2> im on jaunty i386
[00:22] <CkhiKuzad> i am getting to the point of asking my brother to bring an IDE to USB thing over, if he has one. just so i can install 10.04 without my useless CD drive.
[00:22] <ssle2> i cannto get vbox installed
[00:22] <CkhiKuzad> SSLE2 you just gave me a great idea
[00:22] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, so i remember the basic theory : you use grubs menu.lst to add a new entry which mounts the livecd.iso as a loopback device (virtual cdrom drive), it then uses that to boot from
[00:22]  * Viking667 dances a wee jig
[00:23] <Viking667> I got the installer to work over pxe...
[00:23] <Raccoon1400> ssle2: looks like you just need to install those packages it mentions
[00:23] <ssle2> i cant
[00:23] <sk8rjess> can anyone tell me why i have to reinstall my wireless adapter driver after every boot? it always boots up and says "the driver is activated but not currently in use." and on top of that, if i boot up with my sprint card it, it will disconnect after about a minute and then i have to reboot just to get it to show again.
[00:23] <sugoruyo> schlaftier: this is probably too much to ask but i actually get a lot of noise on the left speaker on my headphones... which doesn't happen under OS X or under linux with the builtin speakers
[00:23] <flexor> total linux newb, but what's missing is the integration of "Main Menu" and "find from canonical sources"
[00:23] <BluesKaj> CkhiKuzad, older pc ?
[00:23] <Viking667> simply stuck the USB drive into a slot, set up initrd and vmlinuz on a tftpserver, and boom. It's now installing
[00:23] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, that make sense ?
[00:23] <Raccoon1400> ssle2: right, just noticed that part. What happens when you try to install them explicitly?
[00:23] <CkhiKuzad> is it possible to boot a livecd ISO in virtualbox, and then install it to a separate hard drive?
[00:23] <felon> hey guys whats up
[00:24] <felon> is there a umm
[00:24] <ssle2> hmmm
[00:24] <felon> hmm
[00:24] <Viking667> felon: no.
[00:24] <felon> lol.
[00:24] <CkhiKuzad> and airtonix, it makes sense in theory. but i dont know how to do the loopback device with grub
[00:24] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, you'd have to mount the partition with virtualbox and thats not easy
[00:24] <schlaftier> sugoruyo: no idea, sorry. Regarding the panel widget, I think you can have multiple mixer widgets, but each only controls one channel
[00:24] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, you know how to mount an iso normally via cli ?
[00:24] <Viking667> felon: for music, you install lilypad, audacity or something else like that
[00:24] <felon> umm
[00:24] <CkhiKuzad> isnt it mount -o [iso]
[00:24] <ssle2> ummmm
[00:25] <Viking667> ummmmmm
[00:25] <felon> u must have me mistakin
[00:25] <ssle2> from source?
[00:25] <ssle2> blsh blash
[00:25] <mkquist> airtonix: looks like you can use a windows box too...  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=327597
[00:25] <felon> i havent asked my question yet
[00:25] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9270997&postcount=6
[00:25] <ssle2> whats a good virtualbox
[00:25] <Viking667> felon: then ASK!
[00:25] <ssle2> i just need a xp install
[00:25] <felon> ...
[00:25] <sugoruyo> schlaftier: well i can't see any sound related widget to add to the panel, just the one that's there by default and i can't choose which channel it controls
[00:25]  * Viking667 grins
[00:25] <Raccoon1400> ssle2: if you install them from synaptic?
[00:25] <Viking667> but don't think in type.
[00:26] <ssle2> which one is for jaunty?
[00:26] <Viking667> ... only typesetters do that
[00:26] <ssle2> 2.2
[00:26] <felon> ok ...i seen google had some cool ass google 3d map thingy and i tried it
[00:26] <Raccoon1400> ssle2: that may give a more useful error message
[00:26] <felon> but did not work
[00:26] <ssle2> 2.2?
[00:26] <CkhiKuzad> ssle2, use a XP cd, and rip the ISO from it, then follow the steps in vbox to create a new virtual system, and install xp with the iso on the virtual system, and you can run it ISOless.
[00:26] <Viking667> felon: okay. What video card do you have?
[00:26] <schlaftier> sugoruyo: It's called "Mixer" but it might be Xfce-specific (I'm on Xubuntu)
[00:26] <mkquist> felon: google earth?
[00:26] <Viking667> we'll start with tha
[00:26] <jensoko> Hi, can I ask install/n00b questions here?
[00:26] <felon> yea
[00:26] <felon> google earht
[00:26] <felon> earth
[00:26] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, i dont see why those entries wouldn't work for you (assuming you rewrite the paths to reflect the situation on your computer and where you keep the isos)
[00:27] <ssle2> Hi, can I ask install/n00b questions here?  -> asking to ask is asking for an axing
[00:27] <felon> didnt work maybe i need a plugin
[00:27] <sugoruyo> schlaftier: yeah well on GNOME there is no such thing that i can see... at least not on a clean install
[00:27] <felon> supports winblows and mac
[00:27] <felon> err windows
[00:27] <CkhiKuzad> i keep the ISOs on my /home directory.
[00:27] <ssle2> same thing
[00:27] <ssle2> virtualbox-2.2:
[00:27] <Viking667> felon: it does support Linux, in fact if you use the package manager, there's an Ubuntu version.
[00:27] <ssle2>  Depends: libpython2.6 (>=2.6) but it is not installable
[00:27] <ssle2>  Depends: libqt4-network (>=4.5.0~+rc1) but it is not installable
[00:27] <ssle2>  Depends: libqtcore4 (>=4.5.0~+rc1) but it is not installable
[00:27] <FloodBot1> ssle2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:27] <ssle2>  Depends: libqtgui4 (>=4.5.0~+rc1) but it is not installable
[00:27] <felon> oh
[00:27] <Viking667> felon: I suspect you need to enable Multiverse and Universe repositories
[00:27] <felon> well its nice to know then
[00:28] <ssle2> haha
[00:28] <ssle2> i cant install the dependants
[00:28] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, to find out the /dev/etc path for that you'd look at the contents of /etc/mtab
[00:28] <jensoko> just want to make sure I'm in the right place. I have a usb drive with a LiveCD of kubuntu 10.04 that hangs right after the icon of the little hard disk shows up. Specs: IBM Thinkpad x100e/64-bit iso
[00:28] <Xethron> ARG... I just installed ATI drivers according to the guide found at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide Problem is that I get an error found on the Ubuntu forums here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1192764 ... It states that if I do not undo the opperation I wont be able to use my PC when I reboot
[00:28] <Xethron> Please can anyone help me to undo what I just did? And uninstall all that. Thanks
[00:29] <schlaftier> sugoruyo: well, that's annoying... good luck with your MacBook however. Any other hardware you're having trouble with?
[00:29] <felon> hmm
[00:29] <ssle2> what do i do?
[00:29] <ssle2> besides give up
[00:29] <felon> smoke one
[00:29] <flexor> don't believe it
[00:29] <Viking667> felon: hmmm??? yes?
[00:29] <felon> err
[00:29] <mkquist> felon: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-install-Google-Earth-in-Linux-the-easy-way/
[00:29] <ssle2> alreadyu smoked a bowl today
[00:29] <felon> great
[00:29] <felon> the lazymans way
[00:29] <sugoruyo> not yet, but i haven't even tried the iSight and the mic yet
[00:29] <c0> I have a directory in my home directory that I want others to be able to read. I set the permissions so everyone has read access, yet, other users cannot go that directory.
[00:29] <residentgrey> ssle2: uninstall vbox first
[00:29] <Viking667> mkquist: but does that use the Ubuntu repos?
[00:30] <ssle2> ok
[00:30] <sugoruyo> schlaftier: hopefully those won't give me trouble
[00:30] <CkhiKuzad> ugh, felon, ssle2: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to talk about pot.
[00:30] <residentgrey> then load synaptic and reinstall it
[00:30] <Viking667> (I haven't seen the page yet)
[00:30] <ssle2> but im positve its still there /somewhere/
[00:30] <felon> wa?
[00:30] <residentgrey> if done properly you will have all dependencies
[00:30] <felon> pff
[00:30] <Viking667> felon: "Package Installer"
[00:30] <ssle2> reefer
[00:30] <felon> ok thx Viking667
[00:30] <felon> your so smart
[00:30] <Viking667> Anyhow, I just thought I'd mention my little success story here.
[00:31] <ssle2> i did through syn
[00:31] <ssle2> aptic
[00:31] <Viking667> felon: hah. Thank you. Comes from working with Linux since 1996
[00:31] <ssle2> remove completly
[00:31] <residentgrey> did you tell it to install all the dependencies it required?
[00:31] <ssle2> but what version is for jaunty? 2.2,2.0,3.1
[00:31] <felon> it amazes me how smart everyone is in here
[00:31] <residentgrey> dunno I run karmic
[00:31] <Viking667> felon: not always.
[00:32] <ssle2> lets go with 2.2
[00:32] <Viking667> I come in here and feel like a doofus sometimes that I can't do some stuff.
[00:32] <Jonta> I'm a bit confused about FLAC and metadata. Would it be best to use Ogg Vorbis as a container-format, and add it there?
[00:32] <felon> yea but, you know what i mean
[00:32] <ssle2> stil, canot
[00:32] <Viking667> ... given my length of time on the Linux platform
[00:32] <ssle2> wont work
[00:32] <residentgrey> weird
[00:32] <residentgrey> you try 3.1?
[00:32] <Xethron> Can anyone please help me fix my ATI graphics card? I need to shutdown and leave soon and apparently if I do that I wont be able to use my computer again... Please help
[00:32] <sugoruyo> schlaftier: thanks again, at least it works... partially, well i'm off to call sleep(28800) on myself
[00:32] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix: forget it, where can i get the netinstall?
[00:33] <schlaftier> sugoruyo: heh :) you're welcome, sleep tight
[00:33] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix: NOTE: windows is dead, i cant use it.
[00:33] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, then you can't netboot
[00:33] <ssle2> tried em all
[00:33] <BluesKaj> flac is lossless audio ogg is compressed and lossy , vlc plays flac, Jonta
[00:33] <ssle2> onle one that installs is
[00:33] <ssle2> OSE
[00:34] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix: so basically i am screwed.
[00:34] <ssle2> but with that i dont have the kernel thing
[00:34] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, not unless you try the grub thing i suggested
[00:34] <CkhiKuzad> i cant do that.
[00:34] <jensoko> Can anyone help with my install? Attempting 10.04 on a usb key made with usb-creator.  Thinkpad x100e runs the thumb drive just fine on boot, but when it attempts to get into kubuntu, it freezes at the hard-disk icon. I have to hard reboot. Anyone at all?
[00:34] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, why not ?
[00:34] <Jonta> BluesKaj: Ah yes, I forgot ogg was lossy. I know VLC plays flac. What about flac metadata?
[00:34] <CkhiKuzad> i know i will screw it up.
[00:34] <Jonta> It uses Vorbis Comments
[00:34] <Jonta> But how best to edit these?
[00:34] <ssle2> how do i install the kernel
[00:35] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, putting another entry in there wont screw it up. what version of ubuntu are you using at the moment ?
[00:35] <CkhiKuzad> 9.04
[00:35] <rotten777> anyone know how to change the default runlevel on lucid?
[00:35] <BluesKaj> flac metadata is just accompanied extras liek picand lyrics etx
[00:35] <BluesKaj> etc
[00:35] <Jonta> BluesKaj: I know, but how best to add these?
[00:36] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, do you know the path to your ISO image ?
[00:36] <ssle2> vm driver not installed
[00:36] <residentgrey> what repos do you have available ssle2?
[00:36] <CkhiKuzad> yes, its /home/ckhikuzad/[iso]
[00:36] <Xethron> Can anyone please help me fix my ATI graphics card? I need to shutdown and leave soon and apparently if I do that I wont be able to use my computer again... Please help
[00:36] <BluesKaj> Jonta, dunno , I don't bother with metadata
[00:37] <Crazycheese> Hey guys! does someone know if there is a possiblity to display keyboard layout next to mouse cursor?...Im looking to something like this, but for linux of course. http://www.top4download.com/language-indicator-lite/screenshot-bgbxpejx.html
[00:37] <ssle2> 3rd party only vbox
[00:37] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, you also need to find out what hdd its on. when you look at the text file : /etc/fstab do you see a line with /home on it ?
[00:37] <residentgrey> crazycheese there may be a panel applet for that
[00:37] <mkquist> Viking667: i think the one 'in the repos' just builds it from the google provided .bin, so does basically the same thing...
[00:37] <ssle2> virtualbox ose is now installed
[00:37] <CkhiKuzad> my /home is on the same partition as /
[00:38] <ssle2> but i dont have the driver
[00:38] <Viking667> mkquist: hm? google-earth?
[00:38] <CkhiKuzad> i could move the ISO to my / directory, maybe?
[00:38] <Jonta> BluesKaj: For future reference and other people, embarrassingly easy googling got me this: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t20316.html thanks for your time.
[00:38] <rotten777> ssle2, having the kernel module problem?
[00:38] <ssle2> yup
[00:38] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, thats not the issue, one sec
[00:38] <Crazycheese> residentgrey: I would like it next to cursor for ergonomical reasons. I know about panel applet, ty :)
[00:38] <mkquist> Viking667: yeah
[00:38] <residentgrey> what driver
[00:38] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, have a look at this bunch of text : http://pastebin.com/7cZTD0wx
[00:38] <jsmullikenca> Hey folks, if I want to share an NFTS file system, from a Windows system, does 10.04 installation of Samba need to have the setting for encrypted passwords put into smb.conf?
[00:39] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, notice line 1 talks about hd0 ?
[00:39] <ssle2> idk
[00:39] <CkhiKuzad> yes i do
[00:39] <rcoelhos> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[00:39] <rcoelhos> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[00:39] <ssle2> error -1908
[00:40] <rotten777> sudo modprobe vboxdrv vboxnetadp vboxnetflt
[00:40] <BluesKaj> jsmullikenca, dump the samba gui , just use smb client and encryption isn't necessary
[00:40] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, you need to determine what hdX your /home is on (obviously it'll also be the one / is on too) you can't assume it'll be hd0 so you need to confirm first or nothing will happen when you reboot and select your new grub menu option
[00:40] <rotten777> ssle2 those are the mods for vbox
[00:40] <ssle2> FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.
[00:40] <Xethron> ARG... I just installed ATI drivers according to the guide found at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide Problem is that I get an error found on the Ubuntu forums here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1192764 ... It states that if I do not undo the opperation I wont be able to use my PC when I reboot
[00:40] <CkhiKuzad> alright, well i need to know the full command, assuming that my iso is in /home/ckhikuzad, what would i put before it for it to be a loopback?
[00:40] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, although it can't hurt to simply paste that bit of text into your grub menu.list and reboot to try
[00:41] <rotten777> ssle2, 10.04?
[00:41] <CkhiKuzad> i could paste it, and edit it, i will try.
[00:41] <ssle2> FATAL: Module vboxnetadp not found.
[00:41] <ssle2> jaunty
[00:41] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, ok ill change that to reflect the path to your iso
[00:42] <rotten777> hmm not sure with that, is this a fresh install of virtualbox?
[00:42] <ssle2> E: Couldn't find package modprobe
[00:42] <ssle2> i think so
[00:42] <rotten777> modprobe isn't installed?
[00:42] <ssle2> virtualbox ose from synaptic
[00:42] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, assuming the iso you have is named : lucid-desktop-i386.iso, then you'd use something like this : http://pastebin.com/ZKaGcXgD
[00:42] <ssle2>  sudo apt-get install  modprobe vboxdrv vboxnetadp vboxnetflt
[00:42] <rotten777> no
[00:42] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, but thats assuming / and /home are on hd0
[00:42] <rotten777> sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[00:42] <rotten777> run that
[00:43] <rotten777> see if it returns anything
[00:43] <pete1> hullo, what would be a good tool to copy ID3v1 to ID3v2?
[00:43]  * ssle2 guessing it wont work
[00:43] <ssle2> FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.
[00:43] <rotten777> ok then it doesn't have the modules installed
[00:43] <ssle2> modprobe works
[00:43] <airtonix> pete1, easytag
[00:43] <rotten777> mark the virtualbox package for reinstallation and see if it lets you modprobe after you reinstall
[00:43] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix, i think that my / is on HD0. its on the first partition of a master drive.
[00:44] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, can't hurt to try, worst that will happen is that it wont boot. and you need to restart and choose the normal entry you always use.
[00:44] <ssle2> virtualbox-ose (version 1.5.6-dfsg-6ubuntu1) will be re-installed
[00:44] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, i assume you already have the grub menu showing up at every boot ?
[00:44] <infid> how can i scan for local wireless computers, my laptops aren't seeing eachother on my lan for some reason
[00:44] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix, you assumed right
[00:44] <infid> yet the internet works fine on both of them
[00:45] <ssle2> error
[00:45] <airtonix> infid, from terminal : sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[00:45] <ssle2> no suitible odule for unning kernel
[00:45] <pete1> is there a way to see what changes easytag will do?
[00:45] <ssle2> thats vboxdrv right?
[00:45] <airtonix> infid, assuming your wifi defvice is known to the system as "wlan0"
[00:45] <King> •• /!\ ••• King e qua TRa Voi ••• /!\ ••
[00:45] <daveWilky> Hi everyone, is there anyone in here that has a M-Audio soundcard in here with midi working in ubuntu 10.04?
[00:45] <rotten777> yeah thats the kernel modules
[00:45] <airtonix> pete1, not sure its been a while since i used it. i've been doing my changes to mp3 tags with either songbird, banshee or rhythmbox
[00:46] <rotten777> but there are a few not just 1
[00:46] <stealth-> What programing language is apt written in?
[00:46] <An_Ony_Moose> stealth-, C
[00:46] <stealth-> thanks An_Ony_Moose
[00:46] <ssle2> sol.....
[00:46] <An_Ony_Moose> stealth-, you can use "apt-get source apt-get" to download the source code
[00:46] <ssle2> *so
[00:46] <infid> airtonix: it's wlan0. that command didnt seem to find my laptop though. is there any other reason my laptops wouldnt see eachother? even nmap -sP'ing my lan isnt showing them and i can ssh in either
[00:46] <airtonix> infid, if you dont want to keep running that command manually then you can use this : watch -n1 -d "iwlist wlan0 scan"
[00:47] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix, i am going to go AFK for about a half an hour, i need to download the ISO now.
[00:47] <NFischer> infid, what are you looking for? to see the computers connected to your LAN?
[00:47] <infid> NFischer: yeah
[00:47] <airtonix> infid, do you see what you might think would be your wifi card when you run ifconfig ?
[00:47] <infid> airtonix: yeah, the internet works fine on both computers, they just wont talk to eachother on the lan
[00:47] <binder> what took the place of dmraid in ubuntu 10.04 64bit?
[00:48] <ssle2> what can i do?
[00:48] <airtonix> infid, can you tell me the lan ip and subnet mask you are using on both computers ?
[00:48] <NFischer> infid, what are you up to? what do you want to see them for?
[00:48] <rotten777> in synaptic are there any virtualbox packages not installed?
[00:48] <infid> airtonix: 192.168.1.4 and 192.168.1.8
[00:48] <ssle2> how do i get my kernel version?
[00:48] <airtonix> infid, and subnet mask ?
[00:49] <infid> 255.255.255.0
[00:49] <rotten777> uname -v
[00:49] <serrs> ssle2: uname -a
[00:49] <rotten777> ahh yes -a
[00:49] <airtonix> infid, and ping tells you that there is no route to host when you try ping one from the other ?
[00:50] <airtonix> infid, i assume you are having both computers pluged into a switch before they touch a router/modem ?
[00:50] <serrs> going to have to try the alternate CD on this SC440.  The addon video card drives 10.04 crazy.  (never has before)
[00:50] <infid> airtonix: yeah pinging doesnt work
[00:50] <codyzapp> is 10.4 strictly beta or has anyone been having issues using the live cd/ installer?
[00:51] <rotten777> 10.4?
[00:51] <rotten777> 10.04 isn't beta
[00:51] <infid> airtonix: i have a router that has a wireless ability
[00:51] <NFischer> infid, what are you up to? what do you want to see them for?
[00:51] <infid> airtonix: and these computers have talked to eachother fine in the past on this same router
[00:51] <infid> NFischer: i really just want to ssh in
[00:51] <infid> from the other roo
[00:51] <infid> m
[00:52] <airtonix> infid, have you checked that you have no firewalls running with reject rules ?
[00:52] <ssle2> i found a kernel image
[00:52] <Xethron> I just installed ATI drivers according to the guide found at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide Problem is that I get an error found on the Ubuntu forums here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1192764 ... It states that if I do not undo the opperation I wont be able to use my PC when I reboot
[00:52] <ssle2> that said it was for vbox
[00:52] <codyzapp> interesting, how long has 10.4 been out? i loaded mine up and i cant even get my wireless card to install or even make it through the installer
[00:52] <ssle2> i installed the version similar ,to my kernel
[00:52] <infid> airtonix: ive tried disabling my firewall, yes, but wouldnt icmp still work for pinging
[00:52] <rotten777> that's probably a host kernel
[00:52] <ssle2> it didnt work
[00:52] <airtonix> infid, depends on what firewall frontend you were using
[00:52] <infid> airtonix: ufw
[00:52] <ssle2> This package provides the virtualbox-ose module (vboxdrv.ko) for
[00:53] <airtonix> infid, so ufw is having a status of disabled now ?
[00:53] <infid> yeah
[00:53] <rotten777> I honestly don't knwo ssle2... if you have that installed and `sudo modprobe vboxdrv` it should work
[00:53] <ssle2> WOA
[00:53] <ssle2> lol
[00:53] <ssle2> no way
[00:53] <ssle2> that worked this time
[00:53] <airtonix> infid, and the computers use wifi to connect to the mode/router ?
[00:53] <infid> airtonix: yeah
[00:53] <carlll> i tried starting my server and it gave me "The assembly mscorlib.dll was not found or could not be loaded"
[00:53] <ssle2> god@GOD:~$ sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[00:54] <dgroves> looking for inx peter...
[00:54] <airtonix> infid, have you confirmed you can ping the router/modem (which i assume is 192.168.1.1)
[00:54] <ChogyDan> Xethron: why didn't you use the GUI?
[00:54] <rotten777> vboxnetadp
[00:54] <rotten777> vboxnetflt
[00:54] <infid> airtonix: yes it pings the router fine
[00:55] <airtonix> infid, also did you at anypoint run firestarter ?
[00:55] <infid> airtonix: and i can ssh into my desktop which is wired
[00:55] <infid> airtonix: no
[00:55] <ssle2> fml
[00:55] <ssle2> FUCK
[00:55] <airtonix> infid, ok so when you say you can ssh to the desktop is that the other computer ?
[00:55] <ssle2> i ran it as root
[00:55] <ssle2> and it worked
[00:55] <infid> airtonix: no
[00:55] <rotten777> the ose?
[00:55] <airtonix> !language | ssle2
[00:55] <ssle2> i know
[00:56] <Curly_Q> Infid are you able to http://192.168.0.1 into that router?
[00:56] <infid> airtonix: i have 4 computers, 2 desktops (one wired, one wireless, both pingable from the laptops),  and 2 laptops, the laptops don't see eachother
[00:56] <Xethron> ChogyDan, sorry?
[00:56] <infid> Curly_Q: yeah 192.168.1.1
[00:56] <Curly_Q> Password is fine?
[00:56] <infid> yep
[00:57] <ssle2> installing it now :p
[00:57] <Curly_Q> Have you put your own personal password in?
[00:57] <ChogyDan> !ati | Xethron
[00:57] <airtonix> infid, can the desktops ping each other ?
[00:57] <ssle2> i cannot believe i never thought aboujt running it in root
[00:57] <infid> airtonix: yeah
[00:57] <carlll> what do i do if i get this while in console "The assembly mscorlib.dll was not found or could not be loaded"
[00:57] <Xethron> I think they ment I should say "sudo apt-get remove fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev fglrx-modaliases "... Im just not sure if I have it right and weather it might uninstall other debs aswell
[00:57] <krachny> blist
[00:57] <airtonix> infid, are all the computers running same OS ?
[00:58] <ssle2> hey wheres that stoner?
[00:58] <infid> airtonix: laptops are running ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04, desktops are vista and ubuntu 10.04
[00:58] <ssle2> lets go into the offtopic room and talk
[00:58] <codyzapp> so has anyone been having isssues with 10.4? i cant get the live cd to boot or the installer
[00:58] <acerimmer> codyzapp: do uou have the right version?  32 vs. 64 bit?
[00:59] <codyzapp> yup. 32 bit
[00:59] <airtonix> infid, nad laptops can ping the desktops but not each other ?
[00:59] <infid> airtonix: right
[00:59] <acerimmer> codyzapp: what kind of issues?
[00:59] <infid> airtonix: well one of the laptops wont ping the wireless desktop
[00:59] <Xethron> ChogyDan, would it be ok if I run that or would it distroy my system?
[00:59] <infid> airtonix: yet the other laptop does
[00:59] <infid> it's insane
[00:59] <infid> i have verizon fios internet
[01:00] <airtonix> infid, have you always had this many computers on your wireless access point ?
[01:00] <codyzapp> when i click go to live cd. i get a whole bunch of console loads and a whole list of errors and everything else. i was able to boot to the live cd once and after that it stopped
[01:00] <pete1> so I want to read the id3v1 tag with easyTAG and copy it on to the id3v2 one
[01:00] <pete1> how do I do this?
[01:00] <Curly_Q> Infid, perhaps you have a weak signal or some sort of metal obstruction between one point to another. Line of sight issues.
[01:00] <infid> airtonix: no i added one of the desktops a few months ago, but it was working
[01:00] <infid> Curly_Q: maybe, but they dont even talk when i have the laptops right next to eachother like i do right now
[01:00] <acerimmer> codyzapp: did u check sum your iso after downloading and your burned cd?
[01:00] <codyzapp> nope. prolly should have
[01:01] <airtonix> infid, and all computers are having same ip network address 192.168.1.0 ?
[01:01] <Curly_Q> Infid is it PCMCIA card or USB wireless?
[01:01] <airtonix> infid, and gateway
[01:01] <infid> airtonix: yeah they're all 192.168.1.x
[01:01] <acerimmer> codyzapp: if both desktop AND alternate cd's fail, i would suspect the checksum
[01:01] <infid> airtonix: i also have an ipod touch and an xbox360
[01:01] <purpley> hey guys, can anyone give me documentation on connecting to an unsecured network? im stuck at trying to get a local ip and connect to the network, I  associate myself to it but then I dont know where to go
[01:01] <codyzapp> acerimmer, ok, so should i just go ahead and redownload?>
[01:01] <infid> airtonix: when i scan my router IP-STB2.home also turns up on 192.168.1.100 and .101
[01:02] <infid> IP-STB3.home on .101
[01:02] <acerimmer> codyzapp: do the checksums on your downloads first.  see if they came down OK.  If they pass, checksum the CD's to verify the burn
[01:02] <airtonix> infid, what kind of encryption is your wifi router using ?
[01:02] <infid> airtonix: wpa2
[01:02] <airtonix> infid, how often do you change the password ?
[01:03] <infid> airtonix: often, but why would that matter?
[01:03] <airtonix> infid, paranoia (not relevant but do you expect those 101 & 100 to show up ? )
[01:03] <infid> airtonix: yeah
[01:03] <codyzapp> acerimmer, how would i run the checksum? what command?
[01:03] <airtonix> infid, im not sure but i heard that the more devices that are connected to a wifi access point then its maximum range gets lower and lower.
[01:03] <greezmunkey> airtonix: those are probably addresses dhcp'd out ??
[01:04] <acerimmer> !checksum|codyzapp
[01:04] <airtonix> greezmunkey, more than likely
[01:04] <purpley> hey guys, can anyone give me documentation on connecting to an unsecured network? im stuck at trying to get a local ip and connect to the network, I  associate myself to it but then I dont know where to go
[01:04] <Typos_King> pete1:   I don't use easytag myself, just tagtool :{
[01:04] <debugnet> purpley: what type of 'unsecure' network are you refering to?
[01:04] <CkhiKuzad> alright, i am back
[01:04] <imprint> I just recently updated to the latest Ubuntu 10 (I believe) and my computer is glitching and locking up, and the mouse controls don't/won't work properly, and also cannot shut down from clicking on power icon without being redirected to logging back in? must manually shut down my computer, in other words, my computer is now screwed up from the online upgrade. How can I resolve this?
[01:04] <airtonix> infid, i;d like to see what happens if you create ufw allow rules for all the ip addresses you have then try pinging again
[01:04] <purpley> debugnet: No encryption, my card apparently wont work with wpa in ubuntu even with ndiswrapper.
[01:05] <ripdiskk> if I had ubuntu installed on a hdd, and then kind of built a new computer and attempted to put that same hdd in it, is it normal to not boot?
[01:05] <airtonix> infid, other than that im out of ideas so far without any pratical attempts
[01:05] <greezmunkey> airtonix: that is true of wireless devices, is a contention thing as in a shared hub.
[01:05] <ripdiskk> and how do i go about getting it to boot
[01:05] <acerimmer> ripdiskk: will a live cd boot??
[01:05] <debugnet> purpley: did you check the 802.11a/b/g/n setting for your ndiswrapper? might need to try a iwpriv {wifi0} network_type {type} where type is a or b or g or n
[01:05] <ripdiskk> i don't know
[01:06] <ripdiskk> i was trying to avoid downloading and burning
[01:06] <ripdiskk> lol
[01:06] <ripdiskk> oh wait
[01:06] <ripdiskk> yeah it should
[01:06] <airtonix> infid, maybe review any security or dmz settings you have on your router to ensure that your wireless devices are not having their setup interfered with
[01:06] <ripdiskk> i just built the PC
[01:06] <airtonix> !enter | ripdiskk
[01:06] <ripdiskk> i'm trying to get a previous install of ubuntu to work from another PC
[01:06] <acerimmer> ripdiskk: try to boot live cd
[01:06] <matt_keys> I have a 4 disk software raid0 (/dev/md0). Under ubuntu server 9.04, it was mounted as /var/cifs. When I installed 10.04, I did not format it or anything... I just told it to mount as /var. Now the folders that were on the old mount are not there (ie, /var/cifs/media)
[01:06] <debugnet> purpley: what does your iwconfig say well?
[01:06] <syme> when I run the update manager, I get a message saying "Could not download all repository indexes," any idea what I can do to fix this?
[01:06] <purpley> debugnet: It messes up things and I dont feel like redoing it, Ill just use mac filtering
[01:06] <ripdiskk> acerimmer: what does live cd have to do with m hdd
[01:06] <matt_keys> Can someone tell me how to recover those?
[01:06] <ripdiskk> my*
[01:06] <purpley> debugnet: what do you mean?
[01:07] <debugnet> purpley: from the terminal type iwconfig command
[01:07] <acerimmer> ripdiskk: u have a handbuilt box.  just checking that ubuntu can read and configure for boot before we tackle why the hdd won't boot
[01:07] <purpley> Im on a different computer.....I cant connect to anything on that
[01:07] <ripdiskk> oh believe me
[01:07] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, first off i think you need to review how jaunty deals with grub menu.list (i know that karmic doesn't keep the entries in one file but rather stores them as seperate files)
[01:07] <ripdiskk> i've built hundreds
[01:08] <ripdiskk> it's working, trust me
[01:08] <purpley> debugnet: I assure you im associated with it I just need to know the command thats like dhcpcd for ubuntu
[01:08] <ripdiskk> it's simply giving me a boot error
[01:08] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, so maybe pastebin your grub menu file (if it is one file)
[01:08] <CkhiKuzad> alright airtonix
[01:08] <acerimmer> ripdiskk: what error??
[01:08] <ripdiskk> all the drives are detected... does it matter if it's SATA?
[01:08] <Curly_Q> Infid were all computers connected to the router and working at one time? If so, do you remember any changes made to the router? Also have you /released and /renew   ?
[01:08] <travis___> hey there i need help on how to install windows 7 and ubuntu with customized partitions
[01:08] <travis___> id est do it manually
[01:08] <calibre> sebsebseb: are you there my friend?
[01:09] <infid> Curly_Q: yeah at one point they worked and were only mildly flakely, not hardcore not working like now. and i didnt change the router at all
[01:09] <ripdiskk> acerimmer: disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter
[01:09] <acerimmer> ripdiskk: no buntu handles sata.  but if you moved from one system to another, the previous system settings might conflict with the new box
[01:09] <infid> Curly_Q: the only diff i upgraded one of the laptops to lucid lynx
[01:09] <ripdiskk> what do you mean no buntu handles sata
[01:09] <ripdiskk> how did i get it installed in the first place then
[01:09] <acerimmer> ripdiskk: buntu has no problem with sata
[01:09] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix: http://pastebin.com/nPf4TtMg
[01:09] <spikeb> there should have been a comma there
[01:09] <purpley> debugnet: I assure you im associated with it I just need to know the command thats like dhcpcd for ubuntu
[01:09] <Typos_King> purpley:   http://blog.tplus1.com/index.php/2008/06/13/how-to-connect-to-a-wireless-network-from-the-ubuntu-command-line/    ?
[01:09] <spikeb> purpley, dhclient
[01:10] <acerimmer> ripdiskk: i'd still try a live cd.  doesn't even have to be lucid
[01:10] <purpley> spikeb: thats the same as /etc/networking start for me
[01:10] <Curly_Q> Infid, it may be that there is a very strong signal in your area or neighborhood that is overwhelming the router. If you put a block on that signal, that may help.
[01:10] <spikeb> hmm
[01:10] <ripdiskk> how can i tell if my sata is even being detected.. crap man
[01:10] <ripdiskk> i have to go now suddenly
[01:10] <syme> when I run the update manager, I get a message saying "Could not download all repository indexes," any idea what I can do to fix this?
[01:10] <ripdiskk> this sucks
[01:10] <ripdiskk> i'll be back later
[01:10] <FloodBot1> ripdiskk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:11] <calibre> can someone help me? I have a unrealircd server and I recently just got ubuntu and i would like to know how I could access my shell since WinsCp does not work on linux.
[01:11] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, ok that theoretical grub entry i showed and edited for you earlier can just go in at line 18 of that file you pastebin for me just now
[01:11] <spikeb> syme, rerun the update manager or click the check button
[01:11] <sudobash> alright i just made my first bug report for a friends PC: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/580768
[01:11] <debugnet> purpley: dhclient works but you may want to use the sudo /etc/init.d/networking
[01:11] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix, alright
[01:11] <purpley> debugnet: k
[01:11] <syme> spikeh: I've rerun it several times and I get the same message each time
[01:11] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, actually wait.
[01:11] <spikeb> hmm
[01:11] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, line 48.
[01:11]  * CkhiKuzad waits
[01:12] <CkhiKuzad> line 48, AKA the end right?
[01:12] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, i notice it is : root (hd0,1) and its windows.
[01:12] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix, thats the partition for windows. so my ubuntu partition is hd0
[01:12] <spikeb> syme, usually it means 1) you're not connected to the internet or 2) there's a problem that isn't on your end
[01:12] <CkhiKuzad> hd0,0
[01:12] <carlll> i tried starting my server using:  mono Minecraft\ Server.exe and it gave me:  The assembly mscorlib.dll was not found or could not be loaded....what do i do?
[01:13] <travis___> If i select manual partitions have i got to do something else to make grub allow me to boot windows or linux?
[01:13] <syme> spikeh: ok, thanks, I guess I'll just wait and see what happens
[01:13] <travis___> apart from installing linux in the selected partition?
[01:13] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, format needs to change to suit your grub version
[01:13] <calibre> can someone help me? I have a unrealircd server and I recently just got ubuntu and i would like to know how I could access my shell since WinsCp does not work on linux.
[01:13] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix: i can change the title and stuff, but does the loopback thing, and commands stay the same?
[01:14] <Typos_King> travis___:    no, the grub installation goes at the end of the whole process and will detect any installed OS and add them
[01:14] <linuxman410> what is the slowest computer you can run ubuntu on
[01:14] <travis___> Typos_king: i dont need to asign anything else in manual? no need to use a partition as windows nor anything?
[01:15] <Typos_King> !ot | linuxman410
[01:15] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix, do i /need/ the uuid? because i have no idea what it is
[01:15] <sudobash> is there a way for Canonical to release a patch that will restore the SKIP_CHECKS on the blacklist or will it have to be done via the next release since it's hard coded?
[01:15] <syme> when I click on the sound button at the upper right of the screen and select "sound preferences" nothing happens... is there some way to fix this or access the same preferences another way
[01:15] <carlll> i tried starting my server using:  cd to dir THEN mono Minecraft\ Server.exe and it gave me:  The assembly mscorlib.dll was not found or could not be loaded....what do i do?
[01:16] <sudobash> find that dll and drop it in that directory carlll
[01:16] <travis___> Typos_king: my concern is i want to completely remove 9.10 from the computer and replace it with 10.04, but i am afraid i screw up grub loader by doing so
[01:16] <Typos_King> travis___:    no, assuming you have free space, from the 'free space', make 2 partitions, one for ubuntu, which will be the mounted as '/' root partition, and a smaller one for 'swap', I use a 1gb partition for the 'swap', and leave any others, namely win32, alone
[01:17] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, it needs to look more like this : http://pastebin.com/4VRR0PuN
[01:17] <travis___> typos_king: 9.10 is installed in the partition i want to use
[01:17] <debugnet> carlll: does the folder that contains minecraft server.exe have a config file of any sort? you may need to include with a --config FILE option in your mono command
[01:17] <Typos_King> travis___:    sooo, what do you have right now in the HD?    9.10 and win7?
[01:17] <travis___> typos_king: thats it
[01:18] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, but if you notice that your current grub list ; http://pastebin.com/D7QHPun7 is referencing the partition via uuid and not the same way as the other file is (root (hd0,1)
[01:18] <Typos_King> travis___:    I'd firstly, delete the 9.10 partition, so it becomes 'free space', then reuse that for a new partition for root '/' to mount, for 10.04
[01:18] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, i dont know enough about grub to understand if they are doing the same thing
[01:18] <Name141> What is a light weight IRC client ?
[01:18] <syme> when I click on the sound button at the upper right of the screen and select "sound preferences" nothing happens... is there some way to fix this or access the same preferences another way
[01:18] <Name141> XChat runs  too slow for me on my old P2
[01:18] <travis___> Typos_King, and grub will allow me to dual boot anyway?
[01:18] <Typos_King> Name141:   xchat :P
[01:18] <SocialistPig> empathy does irc
[01:18] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix, it should be ok.
[01:19] <gregcoit> is there a way to force S99* scripts to not start until S98* scripts are done in lucid?
[01:19] <Winglaser> hi guys - how can I use more than 680x480 having an Ubuntu guest via virtualbox on ubuntu ? - guest-additions are installed but I still have to press the hotkey to free my mouse pointer
[01:19] <acerimmer> Name141: chatzilla is an addon to firefox and works quite well
[01:19] <Typos_King> Name141:   maybe you just need to cut down on services or get a lighter WM
[01:19] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, safest bet would be to work out how to specify : root (hdX,Y) and then get the right values for X and Y based on the uuid you have
[01:19] <spikeb> syme, system > preferences > sound
[01:19] <CkhiKuzad> i dont speak md5.
[01:19] <Typos_King> travis___:    the grub installation goes at the end of the whole process and will detect any installed OS and add them
[01:19] <travis___> Typos_King, thanks mate i'll try that
[01:19] <Name141> acerimmer/Typos_King: Perhaps something like what used to be BitchX?
[01:19] <infid> airtonix: the wireless signal on one of my laptops is only averaging 76%, could that be why?
[01:19] <CkhiKuzad> but i know that my root is (hd0,0)
[01:20] <cschamber> howdy
[01:20] <acerimmer> Name141: unfamiliar with that one...
[01:20] <airtonix> infid, i wouldn;t think so
[01:20] <travis___> Anyone knows if bitchx is avaliable for 64 bit ubuntu?
[01:20] <Name141> !BitchX
[01:20] <syme> spikeb: sound doesn't show up under preferences, and I can't enable it
[01:20] <infid> travis___: irssi is way better
[01:20] <travis___> infid, i'll try that then
[01:20] <spikeb> huh
[01:21] <spikeb> beats me heh
[01:21] <travis___> infid, was just a question of nostalgia
[01:21] <travis___> ^^
[01:21] <valoue> hi guy
[01:21] <debugnet> purpley: any luck?
[01:21] <Name141> infid: Will I be able to setup 'preforms' like in mIRC? Such as for it to do something auto matically? IE: msg nickserv identify .. , join #something , etc?
[01:21] <cschamber> looking to load and play conquer online 2.0 on ubuntu 10.04 anyone know how
[01:21] <valoue> i got a error in try installing grub-0-97 said to upgrade my binutil any idea
[01:21] <debugnet> carlll: and you too?
[01:21] <calibre> anyone?
[01:22] <calibre> can ya help with my problem?
[01:22] <calibre> can someone help me? I have a unrealircd server and I recently just got ubuntu and i would like to know how I could access my shell since WinsCp does not work on linux.
[01:22] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix, does this look like it will work? i moved my iso to /iso and named it ubuntulucid.iso
[01:23] <CkhiKuzad> http://pastebin.com/fmTdp7LJ
[01:23] <dominicdinada> I keep getting a Dbus error org.freedesktop.Dbus.Error.NoReply message.... Why is that?
[01:23] <wildbat> hi, anyone know where do i set gvfs option? i wanna mount some share upon login and make change the permission setting of the mount.
[01:23] <fozilla> I cannot get a script or program to run in lynx on login using startup applications, or modifying .profile. Scrpit and command work on own.
[01:24] <Typos_King> calibre:   I don't run a ircd, sorry :{
[01:24] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, apart from missing a title it looks like it should work
[01:25] <calibre> Typos_King: aww ok, I was just wondering I don't know what to do so i can access my shell and conf.
[01:25] <cschamber> umm guess i stumped everyone with that one, cause no one replied
[01:25] <CkhiKuzad> i gave it the name "Lucid"
[01:25] <GeekSquid> calibre: sudo apt-get install openssh-server .... will allow access via scp
[01:25] <dominicdinada> I keep getting a Dbus error org.freedesktop.Dbus.Error.NoReply message.... Why is that?
[01:25] <elan> ok
[01:26] <ripdisk> i found the problem
[01:26] <calibre> Thanks
[01:26] <ripdisk> sata isn't showing up in bios
[01:26] <Typos_King> dominicdinada:    using kubuntu?  when?
[01:26] <ripdisk> but this is a sata mobo... i don't get it
[01:26] <dominicdinada> Well using Ubuntu ( considering i am in Ubuntu ) Browsing to network places
[01:26] <carlll> ok i tried putting mscorlib.dll into the dir it told me to but i dont have access to it
[01:27] <multi_io> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
[01:27] <debugnet> carlll: what is the permissions on the file, maybe it has to be chmod +x
[01:27] <multi_io> pulseaudio is a disaster.
[01:27] <dominicdinada> Typos_King: Well using Ubuntu ( considering i am in Ubuntu ) Browsing to network places ones that are saved via the places, connect to a network
[01:27] <carlll> dubugnet: how do i check?
[01:28] <debugnet> ls -l FILE
[01:28] <Jick> There is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=655475 but it doesn't seem to be valid any longer. Is there a way to do this in 10.04?
[01:28] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix, thanks for your help. hopefully it worked ^^ but if it didnt, i will just wait for my aunt to get in that new CD drive i can get. it should even have a burner.
[01:28] <CkhiKuzad> first, time to backup menu.lst
[01:28] <Typos_King> dominicdinada:    ... I see....... do you see a .DBUS... named file in ~?
[01:29] <carlll> the dir is: user/lib/mono/1.0/mscorlib.dll
[01:30] <dominicdinada> Typos_King: named .dbus yes
[01:30] <CkhiKuzad> done.
[01:30] <matrix> hey guys
[01:30] <hutty>  multi_io   if I remember correctly   port 111 is for rpcbind and used by NFS
[01:30] <matrix> does ubuntu think about me
[01:31] <valoue> someone know why im not abble to install binutils v 2.9
[01:31] <matrix> hey
[01:31] <matrix> does ubuntu have brain
[01:32] <carlll> i checked properties of mono (since there is no folder '1.0') and it says owner:  root
[01:32] <dominicdinada> ok it is pointing to a md5 hashed filename
[01:32] <debugnet> carlll: k, what about the .dll file you copied into the folder with the .exe file?
[01:32] <Typos_King> dominicdinada:    well.... I get issues with the older intercommunication protocol, dcop, and usually the way I've resolved it is by deleting that file, and restarting my session, or loging out and back in, I usually boot to a console session, delete it, and reboot, is a so-called 'stale file', or file of a previous session that should have been deleted
[01:32] <dominicdinada> and inside the file it is refering to a
[01:32] <hcl2> i just installed mythbuntu-control-centre on an existing ubuntu, but how do i start mythtv?
[01:33] <carlll> i wasnt able to copy the dll since i dont have permission to
[01:33] <dominicdinada> ok i will delete it
[01:33] <infid> Name141: yeah you can automatically identify with freenode with irssi
[01:33] <debugnet> carlll: are you the admin for your system? if so, sudo su and try it that way.
[01:33] <Logitech> hello
[01:33] <linux-k> hola
[01:34] <carlll> im the only user on the computer
[01:34] <kevinrogers77771> how do i edit my login screen?
[01:34] <debugnet> linux-k: hola, como esta usted?
[01:34] <daveWilky> hi logitech
[01:34] <Logitech> I use LogMeIn because its simple for remote access of my computer....is there an equally simple equivalent for Linux?
[01:34] <Typos_King> dominicdinada:    yea, the file is a symlink, you want to delete the actual file, no just the symlink
[01:34] <lwells> any good scanned documents organizing software out there?
[01:34] <linux-k> algien mi a yuda a installar servedor ubuntu 10.04
[01:34] <dominicdinada> Typos_King: that worked for the mapped location as of now... we will see if the problem finds it way back and then I will take a real look at why it wont let me store linked network drives...
[01:34] <dominicdinada> Typos_King: I deleted the file :)
[01:35] <bastid_raZor> kevinrogers77771: System > Administration > Login Screen
[01:35] <kevinrogers77771> thank you
[01:35] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix: it did not work: Error 19: Linux kernel must be loaded before initrd
[01:35] <linux-k> #ubuntu-es
[01:35] <acerimmer> !es|linux-k
[01:36] <slimjimflim> would it be a bad idea to delete /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.31-21-generic_2.6.31-21.59_i386.deb
[01:36] <slimjimflim> ?
[01:36] <JPSman_> silly ephemeral question here - the backgrounds for 10.04, the cosmos ones...do those change?
[01:36] <bastid_raZor> slimjimflim: use sudo apt-get clean
[01:36] <alket> Any good game that i can play ?
[01:36] <infid> my screensaver never goes off, even though it's enabled. any idea what might be blocking it? this happened ever since i upgraded to lucid
[01:36] <debugnet> slimjimflim: it would be better just to run apt-get autoremove as root and if it is still there then that should be your answer.
[01:37] <slimjimflim> k ty
[01:37] <Roasted> is there any way to make 1 wallpaper show up per monitor? I used to be able to customize this with one huge perfect-sized picture in gimp, but with 10.04 thats not the case.
[01:37] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, try changing the work linux to kernel.
[01:38] <bastid_raZor> slimjimflim: and no, it is just the .deb file for the kernel. it is not dangerous to delete. but using sudo apt-get clean is the proper way to clean up
[01:38] <JPSman_> Roasted - how do you have your monitors set up?
[01:38] <slimjimflim> debugnet:   auth-client-config libdb4.6
[01:38] <CkhiKuzad> alright, reboot time
[01:38] <slimjimflim> delete that?
[01:38] <CkhiKuzad> thanks airtonix
[01:38] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, this kind of line : http://pastebin.com/TzLWVTnW see the word linux ? change it to kernel.
[01:38] <Roasted> JPSman, uh... I don't know. I set them up in nvidia-settings control panel.
[01:38] <CkhiKuzad> yeah i saw it, and i changed it
[01:38] <Cyber-Dogg> howdy
[01:39] <freeunix> 郁闷
[01:39] <freeunix> 里面有中国人不咯
[01:39] <debugnet> carlll: have you tried wine on the program?
[01:39] <JPSman_> Roasted: do you use compiz?  The only way I found to set 1 image onto two monitors was to create a huge image in Gimp.
[01:39] <Cyber-Dogg> can someone suggest a console partitioning tool that supports GPT?
[01:39] <freeunix> 里面有中国人不咯
[01:39] <alket> Is there a 3d shooter game that must complete missions, somthing like delta force ?
[01:39] <Roasted> JPSman, yes. That's what I used to do. It worked throughout 9.10. But not in 10.04. If I customize one giant perfect-sized image with each wallpaper I want on it, then apply as background, it applies the entire instance to each monitor.
[01:40] <freeunix> 有中国人冒个泡泡咯
[01:40] <Cyber-Dogg> I just use fdisk typically but I have a drive that is GPT
[01:40] <Cyber-Dogg> and it doesn't seem to work
[01:40] <Roasted> JPSman, example. say I have a corvette on the left monitor, and a mustang on the main monitor.
[01:40] <acerimmer> !ch|freeunix
[01:40] <Roasted> JPSman, I customize one big image so the corvette would fit on left, mustang on main. But when I apply it, it gets scrunched on BOTH monitors. scrunched vette/stang on left, scrunched vette/stang on main.
[01:40] <JPSman_> roasted, do you use desktop cubes?
[01:40] <Roasted> JPSman, It doesnt "span out" like it used to.
[01:40] <JPSman_> in compiz
[01:40] <Roasted> JPSman, I didnt set anything up in compiz. Those exciting days of spinning the cube are long since over. :P
[01:40] <Roasted> JPSman, I just have whatever is default.
[01:41] <acerimmer> !cn
[01:41] <acerimmer> !jp
[01:41] <mfpcokets> hi all
[01:41] <codyzapp> acerimmer, checksum matches.
[01:41] <JPSman_> Roasted, in compiz under the cube section I found you can set it as one big cube or multiple cubes.  Lemme look into this more for you
[01:41] <acerimmer> codyzapp: on downloads and the burned disks?
[01:42] <CkhiKuzad> yarr! airtonix: i got Error 23: Error while parsing number
[01:42] <codyzapp> acerimmer, ah i just checked the iso only. i read that running it on the cd would almost always come up a different hash
[01:42] <mfpcokets> anyone have a good shortcut to switch from laptop screen to hd tv?  Im used to windows right click>graphic options>output to> monitor, and cannot seem to find an equivilant shortcut
[01:42] <acerimmer> !md5sum
[01:42] <acerimmer> !checksum
[01:42] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, yeah according to this http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2009/05/25/boot-an-iso-via-grub2/. loopback support is only in grub2 not grub1
[01:42] <CkhiKuzad> blaaaaaaaaaaaarg! *facedesk*
[01:43] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, so looks like you have to wait till you get the new device
[01:43] <CkhiKuzad> yep, airtonix. i should be fine until then.
[01:43] <Typos_King> mfpcokets:     there's usually an [fn] key combination on the laptop keyboard for that already usually
[01:43] <CkhiKuzad> i could even see if i could do a hotswap type install
[01:43] <acerimmer> codyzapp: see the section on  checking the cdrom https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[01:43] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, keep that last link handy though.... great way to do resuces
[01:43] <Typos_King> mfpcokets:     on mine it has a button for [crt/lcd]
[01:43] <airtonix> rescues*
[01:43] <CkhiKuzad> (put the drive in another computer, install it, and put it back in mine)
[01:44] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, that should work... i dont see why not
[01:44] <JPSman_> Roasted: style > span
[01:44] <mfpcokets> typos_king i tried that but the image doesnt transfer over as well as if I open display setting and turn off the laptop and on the tv,  when i used the fn key i couldnt see the video i fullscreened
[01:44] <zus> does anyone work with actionscript3 in ubuntu/kubuntu? im looking for something i can be opened up with cs4
[01:44] <Roasted> JPSman, I dont understand why I need compiz to make my wallpapers wokr. That doesn't make sense to me.
[01:44] <calibre> GeekSquid: Ok i did the command for the ircd shell thing but how do i open it?
[01:45] <preetham> ff
[01:45] <mfpcokets> typos_king, no other GUI method other than opening display settings every time ?
[01:45] <JPSman_> Roasted: your right, its how I have it set up.  but in the lower left of the apperance preferences window for the background tab there is a drop box called style, select Span
[01:46] <Roasted> JPSman, ah hah! one second.
[01:46] <Roasted> JPSman, let me grab a regular wallpaper
[01:46] <Roasted> JPSman, that I customized that is
[01:46] <CkhiKuzad> anyway, i am going to /quit now
[01:46] <acerimmer> computer mind control aka what's wrong with this pic  http://imgur.com/5Xn7B
[01:46] <JPSman_> but I have a background question.  I just installed 10.04 and it looks like the cosmos walls have multiple selection available
[01:47] <JPSman_> does this change automatically?
[01:47] <quidnunc> How do I run instances with a different "view" of one directory in my home directory? Sort of like a chroot
[01:47] <Jick> There is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=655475 but it doesn't seem to be valid any longer. Is there a way to do this in 10.04?
[01:47] <Roasted> JPSman, you the man!
[01:47] <Roasted> thanks!
[01:47] <JPSman_> sure sure :OD
[01:48] <calibre> Can anyone help? I used sudo apt-get install openssh-server but how do I actually start using it.
[01:48] <Kentrel> It should be started automatically
[01:48] <JPSman_> calibre: man ssh - also have you tried SSHing into your computer now?
[01:49] <Kentrel> type ps -aux | grep ssh to see if its running
[01:49] <calibre> JPSman_: No I just need to access my ircd shell and unreal conf
[01:49] <GeekSquid> calibre: winscp or putty will connect to that server ... you asked to be able to access your shell remotely, ssh is now running, all you need to do is connect to it ssh user@ipaddress
[01:50] <tripelb> My system freezes, usually during playing flash (it hangs with repeating audio like a loop) [9.10, AMD, only chrome]  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/geDSDHv1 is the new pastebin   -- !
[01:50] <calibre> GeekSquid: I typed man ssh now what?
[01:50] <plush> is there any way to get acpi temperature readings under lucid? lm-sensors finds nothing and says to use acpi instead
[01:50] <douglas_> i just have one quick question
[01:51] <dominicdinada> calibre: thats the manual on SSH
[01:51] <douglas_>  why is it when i mount a drive it automaticly opens it in a file browser?
[01:51] <x_link> Hi!
[01:51] <calibre> domincdinada: Ok so how do i get into my shell? what do i type in?
[01:51] <intx> is there a dropbox cli package for ubuntu?
[01:51] <x_link> I installed my new NAS today, installed it on my Windows-machine.
[01:52] <x_link> But now I want to be able to see the NAS on my Linux-laptop as well.
[01:52] <douglas_> or i should say when ever i plug in a drive or insert a disk
[01:52] <douglas_> it opens it in a file browser
[01:52] <douglas_> why is that
[01:52] <dominicdinada> ssh (ip addy)
[01:52] <x_link> I use Konqueror as filemanager, so I open Konqueror -> Network, but I can't see the NAS there.
[01:52] <x_link> Can somebody please tell me where I should look?
[01:52] <hutty> x_link    what kind of NAS os it?
[01:52] <wildbat> hi, anyone know where do i set gvfs option? i wanna mount some share upon login and make change the permission setting of the mount.
[01:53] <calibre> dominicdnada: Is that what I type in terminal?
[01:53] <x_link> hutty: Just a Western Digital My Book World 1TB
[01:53] <dominicdinada> yes
[01:53] <bastid_raZor> douglas_: it is set in gconf-editor  .. /apps/nautilus/preferences/media_automount_open
[01:53] <hutty> x_link    do you know its ip address?
[01:53] <bastid_raZor> /apps/nautilus/preferences/media_automount_open
[01:53] <allgandu> how..to..install..gyachi..in..lucid..i386??
[01:53] <dominicdinada> calibre: ie         ssh 192.168.1.224
[01:53] <x_link> hutty: Yes
[01:54] <hutty> x_link    can you ping it?
[01:54] <x_link> hutty: I will try
[01:54] <x_link> hutty: Yes
[01:54] <tex83> salut
[01:55] <acerimmer> !fr|tex83
[01:55] <douglas_> how exactly do i get there i cant find apps
[01:55] <gartral> anyone here using the xboxdrv drivers for xbox360 microphones?
[01:55] <dominicdinada> calibre: also if you type 3 or 4 letter of a persons name and press tab it autocompletes their name since you spelled my name wrong all the time lol
[01:55] <bastid_raZor> douglas_: alt + F2  then type gconf-editor
[01:55] <calibre> sorry
[01:55] <calibre> lo
[01:56] <hutty> x_link   put the ip into your browser
[01:56] <nthawee> in xchat how do i input in options to automatically conect to certain channels in freenode??
[01:56] <badnaam> hello all, i am getting constant udp hits from 60870, i see it in firestarter
[01:56] <badnaam> any ideas what this could be?
[01:56] <x_link> hutty: I'm there now
[01:56] <x_link> hutty: I'm in the webinterface now
[01:57] <x_link> But I want a shortcut to my NAS on my desktop
[01:57] <douglas_> so i uncheck that
[01:57] <dominicdinada> badnaam: do you or anybody in the house use a p2p for torrents?
[01:57] <x_link> Just like a Firefox-shortcut or whatever
[01:57] <douglas_> automount_open?
[01:57] <x_link> hutty: Or even better, just se it in Konqueror -> Networks or something like that
[01:58] <markus37> dominicdinada: i use vuze
[01:58] <dominicdinada> badnaam: also did you resolve the firewall issue?
[01:58] <badnaam> yes, I have deluge open
[01:58] <codyzapp> acerimmer, yeah i get a whole different hash with the cd.
[01:58] <hutty> x_link   maybe   create a new folder  then make shortcut
[01:58] <badnaam> yes I did dominic, at least to some extent..now I can have the firewall running and still use empathy :)
[01:58] <dominicdinada> markus37: I was answering badnaam he wanted to know what could be reaching his firewall at port 60***
[01:59] <nthawee> transmission has a blocklist from bad ips
[01:59] <x_link> hutty: But how do I find the NAS on my computer?
[01:59] <acerimmer> codyzapp: suggests that the burn didn't quite work out.  try again with a slower burn speed  or create a usb.
[01:59] <debugnet> badnaam: do you have wireshark?
[01:59] <codyzapp> acerimmer, good deal. thanks for the help
[01:59] <sangho> can i run full 3D games on virtuabox with windows guest?
[01:59] <acerimmer> codyzapp: good luck
[01:59] <bastid_raZor> douglas_: yes, uncheck it.
[01:59] <Kentrel> sangho, old 3d Games, yeah
[01:59] <badnaam> no i don't
[01:59] <sangho> what kind of?
[02:00] <Kentrel> sangho, I've only tested with 3D games from around 2001\2002
[02:00] <katsuru> hello all, can any1 tell me how to setup Hellanzb ?? i need to be able to run .nzb files and i downloaded LottaNZB but seems like i need hellanzb for it to run =/.
[02:00]  * dominicdinada wonders how this topic turned from me asking badnaam if he or his roomates are using a p2p program. Tooooooo everybody saying they p2p or giving the program they use
[02:00] <sangho> okay
[02:00] <sangho> thanks
[02:00] <JPSman> in lucid, the backgrounds for the cosmos look browsable, what is this feature?
[02:00] <badnaam> my deluge is configured for incoming 6881 to 6891
[02:00] <hutty> x_link   use the web interface to make new folder     then put link to that folder oon your desktop
[02:00] <badnaam> how can i tell waht's hitting 60870
[02:01] <JPSman> badnaam: wireshark?
[02:01] <markus37> dominicdinad: maybe u should adress him directly that we know :)
[02:01] <dominicdinada> markus37: scroll up every time i did
[02:02] <debugnet> badnaam: wireshark will show the exact traffic for everything, u could even filter to just that udp port and see what is traffered. in the mean time if you don't have it installed, you can see who you are connected to and what program/process is running the port with netstat -aup
[02:02] <badnaam> ah i see, yes I am looking it up, is there a good list of ports best practice.. i.e. what ports are typically opened and what are closed, for general use, browing, torrents, etc
[02:02] <hutty> x_link     or try this        smb://nas ip address
[02:02] <freeunix> hello
[02:03] <badnaam> yes, I tried netstat etc, though being a networking noob, its hard to tell what is good and what is bad, a recommened list would be a good help, if there is one
[02:03] <x_link> hutty: smb://192.168.1.117 like that?
[02:03] <debugnet> badnaam: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers
[02:03] <katsuru> hello all, can any1 tell me how to setup Hellanzb ?? i need to be able to run .nzb files and i downloaded LottaNZB but seems like i need hellanzb for it to run =/.
[02:03] <dominicdinada> badnaam: you can also right click to resolve the host names in firestarter
[02:04] <tomato> hello, i have a job running in the background currently but "jobs" doesn't list it, is there any reason for this?
[02:04] <JPSman> for 10.04, can someone explain the cosmos background "slides" to me?
[02:04] <hutty> x_link     yeah
[02:04] <x_link> hutty: Doesn't work.
[02:04] <x_link> Hmm
[02:05] <x_link> hutty: You know when you create a folder on your desktop for example and then come to your files, I want to do it like that but for my NAS.
[02:05] <debugnet> badnaam: as a general rule, anything above 1024 is reserved for connects to everything below is reserved for server listening connections. ie when you connect to google.com you are connecting to google.com port 80 and are given a random port number above 1024 to listen back from google.com's traffic (you will see that from netstat as well).
[02:05] <badnaam> 217-209-190-15-no32.tbcn.telia.com
[02:06] <Rewt`> keyboard and mouse freezing in 10.4 - any sugguestions?
[02:06] <badnaam> ah, thanks debugnet,
[02:06] <Rewt`> have switched both.
[02:06] <Rewt`> same results
[02:06] <Without_A> I am writing this Without_A tear in my eye: Look!
[02:06] <Without_A> http://pastebin.com/Tkqb4vZN
[02:06] <Without_A> For some reason, I can't apt-get
[02:06] <debugnet> badnaam: welcome
[02:07] <hutty> x_link    so  can you create a folder from the web interface?
[02:07] <Without_A> http://pastebin.com/Tkqb4vZN
[02:07] <dominicdinada> debugnet: generally correct but it is above 40,000 that are unreserved and unregistered used for NAT, P2P etc
[02:07] <gartral> anyone here using the xboxdrv drivers for xbox360 microphones?
[02:08] <Without_A> No but I'm using Ubuntu
[02:08] <x_link> hutty: Ohh I fixed it
[02:08] <debugnet> dominicdinada: cool, thx
[02:08] <Without_A> http://pastebin.com/Tkqb4vZN
[02:08] <Freeunix> 里面有中国人不？？
[02:08] <Freeunix> ?
[02:08] <Freeunix> ?
[02:08] <FloodBot1> Freeunix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:09] <x_link> hutty: I opened Konqueror, wrote smb:blablabla, then I drag n' droped the link to Konqueror -> Network =)
[02:09] <badnaam> should wireshark autiomatically pick up my interfaces once installed or do I need to do something? It does not list my interfaces in capture list
[02:09] <debugnet> dominicdinada: sounds like the ietf added that requirement cuz they ran out with the 1024.
[02:09] <x_link> hutty: Thanks alot for your help, I appreciate it alot.
[02:09] <Freeunix> o isee
[02:09] <Without_A> Can anyone help me?
[02:09] <hutty> x_link   thats what I was trying to say!!!
[02:09] <cros13> badnamm: You launch wireshark as a user with permissions to the interface?
[02:10] <JMorrison> Without_A, whats the matter?
[02:10] <Without_A> JMorrison: I can't apt-get
[02:10] <debugnet> badnaam: you might need to be root to get it to show the interfaces, or add yourself to the group that has rights to the interfaces
[02:10] <badnaam> i just launched the gui from start menu
[02:10] <dominicdinada> debugnet: As the last N+ states 0-1024 are Registered 1025-30-40 are Reserved and the rest are just there
[02:10] <Without_A> This is the output I get: http://pastebin.com/Tkqb4vZN
[02:10] <JMorrison> Without_A, why?
[02:11] <dominicdinada> 1025- 30-40,000
[02:11] <Without_A> Jmorrison: http://pastebin.com/Tkqb4vZN
[02:11] <badnaam> my account is part of root group, how do I start it from start menu as sudo?
[02:12] <cros13> badnaam:
[02:12] <cros13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/433611/
[02:12] <decusgeek> Need some Evolution help. Anyone game?
[02:12] <debugnet> brb
[02:12] <Name141> when you reattach to a screen, how do you deattach from it but keep the program and screen running ?
[02:12] <JMorrison> Without_A, try sudo aptitude -f install
[02:12] <acerimmer> decusgeek: i'll take a bite
[02:12] <x_link> hutty: My english isn't that good, so sometimes I don't get everything.
[02:12] <cros13> badnaam: that will allow capture without needing root
[02:12] <dominicdinada> badnaam: well what are you running ? Browser? IRc? etc...
[02:12] <Palestine> i can install gnome interface and use it with ubuntu server 10.4 ?
[02:13] <x_link> hutty: I thought you meant that I should do it in my webbrowser/Firefo.
[02:13] <badnaam> yes, browser, irc and deluge
[02:13] <hutty> x_link   np   your English is fine
[02:13] <badnaam> thanks cros13
[02:13] <x_link> hutty: Hehe thanks =)
[02:13] <cros13> badnaam: replace gerald with your username
[02:13] <decusgeek> My ISP wants me to use port 587 for outgoing mail, but I don't see how.
[02:13] <badnaam> ok
[02:13] <Rewt`> decusgeek: you have bellsouth?
[02:13] <therian1> hey guys, anyone know a command to probe your local network?
[02:14] <therian1> thanks
[02:14] <decusgeek> Rewt: No, Verizon
[02:14] <Name141> screen -d worked
[02:14] <Palestine> hey, i can install and use gnome interface with my ubuntu SERVER ?
[02:14] <Rewt`> decusgeek: bellsouth does the same. it's just a configuration setting change
[02:14] <Palestine> to look like ubuntu desktop but with services ?:x
[02:15] <x_link> Palestine: Why not just use Ubuntu directly?
[02:15] <decusgeek> Rewt: Figured that, but what/where to change?
[02:15] <Palestine> x_link cuz i want use server but am newbi in linux so i need some help from interface
[02:15] <acerimmer> Palestine: u CAN installl ubuntu and then add server packages on top
[02:15] <cros13> Anyone here use Ember Media Manager for XBMC through Mono?
[02:16] <Palestine> acerimmer in ubuntu server i tried ssh and work but in ubuntu desktop not workin so i need ubuntu server but with gnome interface
[02:16] <Palestine> so if i can install ubuntu server then from terminal download and install gnime tell me :>
[02:17] <badnaam> cros13 : groupadd -g wireshark says invalid group id
[02:17] <gartral> anyone here using the xboxdrv drivers for xbox360 microphones?
[02:17] <acerimmer> Palestine: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:17] <badnaam> so I just manually created a group called wireshark and added my account to it, rest of the steps went fine, then I fired wireshark from the start menu still no interface
[02:17] <badnaam> I installed wireshark via synaptics
[02:17] <Palestine> acerimmer that command will install the ubuntu iso or just the interface ?
[02:18] <acerimmer> Palestine: gui only
[02:18] <Freeunix> who
[02:18] <badnaam> well i just did a sudo wireshark on bash and it started with the interfaces
[02:18] <cros13> badnaam: groupadd -g -r wireshark
[02:18] <debugnet> badnaam: try it sudo, its a little risky but they will show up
[02:19] <debugnet> there we go
[02:19] <cros13> badnaam: then run the rest of the commands from the pastebin
[02:20] <cros13> badnaam: su or sudo is still not a great idea with wireshark
[02:20] <miramardesign> dumb q: I compiled this myfile.c w/ gcc, how would i run it under lucid??????
[02:20] <eross> how do I find my wireless printer, running lucid/gnome
[02:21] <max_> Hello, I'm using ubuntu 10.4 and my USB headset no longer works. In 9.10 it worked flawlessly but now it doesn't work at all.
[02:21] <miramardesign> eross i had to get its ip on the network..
[02:21] <greezmunkey> miramardesign: what was the name of the output file? chmod {filename} +x ??
[02:21] <max_> It's detected in the preferences but not under output/inputdevices.
[02:21] <miramardesign> TEMPer.c  --> temper
[02:21] <miramardesign> greez thx i forgot to do that duh...
[02:22] <eross> what do i use to connect to the printer
[02:22] <Without_A> im gettin fed up with ubuntu :(
[02:22] <acerimmer> Palestine: also check for #ubuntu-server channel for help with server
[02:24] <miramardesign> eross system->admin->printer->network printer...
[02:24] <DCGstudios> badnaam, youll need to create a seperate group for wireshark with the neccessary permissions to use interface caputres
[02:24] <badnaam> ok, I am adding a filter called port 60870 in wireshark, it seems correct according to docs but the ui doesnot like it
[02:24] <DCGstudios> badnaam, theres alot of different tutorials for it, just google it.
[02:24] <eross> I have Printers, but not Printer
[02:24] <badnaam> ok, going thru the docs now
[02:24] <Without_A> E: Could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (2: No such file or directory)
[02:24] <Without_A> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[02:25] <miramardesign> grezz if its a command line c app how do i run it from terminal.?
[02:25] <miramardesign> eross its not a brother printer is it??
[02:25] <DCGstudios> badnaam,   http://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/CapturePrivileges
[02:25] <farvito> I'm having an issue with flash youtube says I need to update flash to veiw videos but when I try it says its already installed
[02:25] <wildbat> hi, anyone know where do i set gvfs option? i wanna mount some share upon login and make change the permission setting of the mount.
[02:25] <farvito> any help?
[02:25] <eross> yes it is, wireless is not built in
[02:26] <debugnet> badnaam: try udp.srdport == # or udp.dstport == # to filter by that udp port
[02:26] <erpingham> miramardesign: ./{filename}
[02:26] <eross> is separate plugin i got for cheap because it uses the parallel input port
[02:26] <miramardesign> go to synaptic and search for brother! (there are several driver packages)
[02:26] <eross> dern..
[02:26] <miramardesign> thx erp
[02:26] <greezmunkey> miramardesign: did you find the executable output file after you compiled it?
[02:26] <miramardesign> yes greez
[02:27] <greezmunkey> miramardesign: sudo chmod +x {that file name}
[02:27] <miramardesign> awesome c app works  its a temperature thermometer connected to my comp
[02:27] <erpingham> greezmunkey: you won't need the sudo
[02:27] <farvito> I'm having an issue with flash youtube says I need to update flash to veiw videos but when I try it says its already installed
[02:27] <Without_A> is there any quick and painless way to reinstall ubuntu?
[02:27] <greezmunkey> erpingham: you're right, my bad - same idea
[02:27] <miramardesign> ./ worked   i forget that
[02:27] <Without_A> *acoughis*
[02:28] <miramardesign> now i gotta learn a little C
[02:28] <miramardesign> (php/js guy)
[02:28] <miramardesign> C = old schoool gansta lol
[02:28] <Colombina> :O
[02:28] <Colombina> 1537
[02:28] <Colombina> que asco
[02:28] <Colombina> tanta gente
[02:29] <Colombina> y nadie habla josep ?
[02:29] <acerimmer> !es|colombiana
[02:29] <Colombina> jaja
[02:29] <`boz> hi all i have an avi file that i can play in movie player and a srt file containing subtitles does anyone know how to play them together synchronised?
[02:29] <Colombina> es con iii
[02:29] <Colombina> [Colombina]
[02:29] <Without_A> yo hablo espanol un poco
[02:29] <miramardesign> che hablo bastante por un gringo!
[02:29] <Without_A> que quieres
[02:29] <miramardesign> mi mujer argentina...
[02:29] <zus> does anyone work with actionscript3 in ubuntu/kubuntu? im looking for something i can be opened up with cs4
[02:29] <Colombina> !es| miramardesign
[02:29] <zus> i might have missed my answer i stepped away sorry
[02:29] <Without_A> Well that sucks
[02:30] <Without_A> ubuntu is messed up
[02:30] <Colombina> josep
[02:30] <Colombina> pero aquí sólo hay frikis
[02:30] <Colombina> no hay trolls tipo dimitri
[02:30] <hutty> boz    VLC will do it for you
[02:30] <nhak> anyone knows how i can install Kylix3 ?
[02:30] <Colombina> no se necesita de moderadores
[02:30] <`boz> cheers hutty
[02:31] <wildbat> hi, anyone know where do i set gvfs option? i wanna mount some share upon login and make change the permission setting of the mount.
[02:31] <Jeffery> wassup
[02:31] <Jeffery> ahh
[02:31] <Jeffery> this is awesome
[02:31] <srini> Always i got low graphics mode how to fix this???
[02:31] <Jeffery> my brightness setting is a little messed up.
[02:31] <Jeffery> how do i fix that?
[02:31] <hutty> boz    np     you need to use    "advanced file open     and you will see srt option
[02:32] <Jeffery> lmaapooooo. thats some high ping
[02:32] <`boz> thanks again hutty installing now
[02:32] <farvito> ok no I have flash but I cant pause youtube or control the volume
[02:33] <farvito> *now
[02:33] <Jeffery> how do i fix the poor brightness?>
[02:33] <Jeffery> i tried upping the value in the system settings
[02:33] <MeXTuX> I'm trying to record my voice with a microphone with no results : ( My motherboard is D946GZIS and the sound card is HDA Intel and chipset is Sigmatel STAC9227. My OS is Ubuntu 10.04
[02:34] <erpingham> MeXTuX: are you using the "sound recorder" app in Applications-> Sound and Video? I have not had good success with that. I usually use Audacity.
[02:34] <jiggly> hi everybody, i'm trying to create an image of my entire computer (4 partitions) using partimage but as far as i know, you could only create an image of one partition at a time; is there any way i can create an image of all the partitions at once?
[02:34] <Colombina> A ti, manzana,
[02:34] <Colombina> quiero
[02:34] <Colombina> celebrarte
[02:34] <Colombina> llenándome
[02:34] <Colombina> con tu nombre
[02:34] <Colombina> la boca,
[02:34] <FloodBot1> Colombina: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:34] <MeXTuX> Audacity?? Mmm I will try it
[02:35] <Colombina> :(
[02:35] <erpingham> MeXTuX: Also, can you get your microphone to show in the levels in the mixer applet?
[02:35] <MeXTuX> mixer applet??
[02:35] <decusgeek> Rewt: Found it. smtp.verizon.net:587
[02:36] <hutty> jiggly     Im not 100% sure   but Clonzilla might do all your partitions  (as long as there all on the same drive)
[02:36] <erpingham> MeXTuX: Click the volume icon on the top panel and click Sound Preferences.
[02:36] <`boz> worked a treat on the computer hutty, do you know if it is possible to burn to a dvd with subtitles?
[02:37] <erpingham> MeXTuX: then choose the input tab. There is a level meter there.
[02:37] <jiggly> hutty: thanks
[02:37] <mzpl> bonjour j'ai u  problème avec mon Ubuntu
[02:37] <Rewt`> decusgeek: awesome. Sorry, had to step away for a moment.
[02:37] <hcl2> how do you list what files are in a package?
[02:37] <MeXTuX> It says Unamplified 100%
[02:37] <MeXTuX> Connector: Microphone
[02:37] <decusgeek> jiggly/hutty: Clonezilla will back up all partitions on a drive.
[02:37] <erpingham> MeXTuX: And when you speak into the microphone or bump it, does that "Input level" thing move at all?
[02:38] <srini> how to fix the monitor problem
[02:38] <eross> the cups isn't installing, there is a conflict. if i try to remove cups and it includes ubuntu-desktop in the removal, should I be worried?
[02:38] <jiggly> decusgeek: thanks for the info
[02:39] <apollo> morning all
[02:39] <Colombina> Yo quiero
[02:39] <Colombina> una abundancia
[02:39] <Colombina> total, la multiplicación
[02:39] <Colombina> de tu familia,
[02:39] <Colombina> quiero
[02:39] <Colombina> una ciudad,
[02:39] <Colombina> una república,
[02:39] <FloodBot1> Colombina: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:39] <mzpl>  bonjour ya quelqu'un qui parle francais
[02:40] <gartral> anyone here using the xboxdrv drivers for xbox360 microphones?
[02:40] <quidnunc> ubottu fr! | mzpl
[02:40] <quidnunc> ubottu fr | mzpl
[02:41] <hutty> boz       or in VLC fourms
[02:41] <`boz> Hutty: using DeeVeeDee it appears i can add the subtitle file as well when burning
[02:41] <hmw> srini: Which Ubuntu Version? You will probably have to create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and put some lines in there to tell the system about your resolution. But this works only, if your graphics driver is not broken. Tell me, what is selected in System / Prefereces / Appearance / Visual Effects. Is it "None", "Normal" or "Extra"?
[02:41] <LuisJa> My kubuntu installation is crashed: it seems something happened with the partition than it goes directly to tt2 than normal tty7 graphic mode, and I cannot access recovery mode to restore it, what I must do, reinstall or there is a solution? (think it happened because I turned off in a wrong way)
[02:42] <`boz> will see how that goes, thanks for your help
[02:42] <eross> what happens if i remove ubuntu-desktop?
[02:42] <hutty> boz   np   is DeeVeeDee a ubuntu pkg?
[02:42] <srini> hmw: i m using jaunty... Always i got 800x600... i want to set 1024x768
[02:42] <`boz> yes
[02:42] <hmw> srini: Is it "none" or one of the others?
[02:43] <`boz> DeVeDe
[02:43] <hutty> boz   ok
[02:43] <srini> hmw: i have log messages
[02:43] <DavidJHeinrich> what is the ubuntu devel IRC name?
[02:43] <hmw> srini: System / Prefereces / Appearance / Visual Effects. Is it "None", "Normal" or "Extra"?
[02:44] <srini> hmw: it is none
[02:44] <DavidJHeinrich> tkamppeter, are you there? I have an HPLIP question, and was told you are an expert
[02:45] <GSF1200S> anyone know a site I can go to that will tell me what information my web browser is giving out?
[02:46] <myk_robinson> Having problems on my laptop, when I plug in my headphone, the speakers do not disable. Tried updated Alsa drivers, problem persists.. Any ideas?
[02:47] <debugnet> myk_robinson: does it have this problem in any other OS? ie windows?
[02:47] <myk_robinson> debugnet: not sure, I didnt keep Windows 7 on it
[02:47] <myk_robinson> debugnet: i did file a bug report, but there seems to be no activity
[02:47] <myk_robinson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/565685
[02:47] <debugnet> do you have any other live distros you can try booting to? what i am getting at is it might be your BIOS settings
[02:47] <LuisJa> My kubuntu installation is crashed: it seems something happened with the partition than it goes directly to tt2 than normal tty7 graphic mode, and I cannot access recovery mode to restore it, what I must do, reinstall or there is a solution? (think it happened because I turned off in a wrong way)
[02:48] <hmw> srini: In this case I might not be able to help. You can try to creat a xorg.conf file with this content: http://paste.ubuntu.com/433618/   ---  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:48] <myk_robinson> debugnet: I can check the BIOS, but I have never heard of that being a setting in the BIOS. Its a new Asus K50LJ
[02:48] <myk_robinson> debugnet: Suppose I can download another distro to try as well, cant hurt to test a live disk
[02:49] <srini> hmw: shall i copy the log messages
[02:49] <hutty> GSF1200S    I use this one   http://user-agent-string.info
[02:49] <v0ltag3> try double clicking the speaker icon and find headphone jack sense. Check that and see if it works.
[02:49] <GSF1200S> hutty: thanks :)
[02:49] <myk_robinson> v0ltag3: dont see that option. You able to post a screenshot?
[02:50] <grodius> hello can someone help me, i upgraded to lucid on a netbook and somehow my grub has gotten completely screwed and it just refaults to grub restore
[02:50] <DavidJHeinrich> I'm having a problem printing on custom sizes at all in HPLIP 3.10.5, and also a problem printing on custom sizes with full-bleed (edge-to-edge) on 3.9.12 (it doesn't remember when I turn Off stretch to fit)
[02:50] <DavidJHeinrich> posted bug-reports on it, nothing helpful in reply: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/508152
[02:51] <DavidJHeinrich> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/529293
[02:51] <DCGstudios> grodius, its always recommened that you do a fresh install.
[02:51] <void9> hi, i'm looking into the debian installer, as used for the lucid install.  i set my apt-sources to lucid and did an `apt-get source debian-installer`, but all the templates are missing.  where are they?
[02:51] <grodius> DCGstudios: thanks so much for that recommendation, unfortunately i didnt do that
[02:51] <dylix_> what version of ubuntu has kernel <2.6.28 ??
[02:51] <v0ltag3> No I remember having a similiar problem when on my laptop and I think thats what I did. You could also try rebuilding the alsa drivers from source. I heard that worked for another person
[02:52] <grodius> does anyone know how to reinstall grub when booting from a liveusb?
[02:53] <srini> hmw: how to find out the driver and set into xorg.conf file
[02:53] <jorge_> holla
[02:53] <grodius> does anyone know how to reinstall grub when booting from a liveusb?
[02:53] <DCGstudios> grodius, what exactly is the problem?
[02:53] <bastid_raZor> grodius: which version of ubuntu?
[02:54] <grodius> running lucid from the usb
[02:54] <jorge_> puedo hablar espoñol
[02:54] <DCGstudios> grodius, run 'sudo update-grub'
[02:54] <fried_penguin> is there a list of ubuntu irc channels?
[02:55] <v0ltag3> yeah mount your partitions and chroot into your root partition. Do grub-install /dev/sd*
[02:55] <Crazyguy> !es jorge_
[02:55] <Crazyguy> !es
[02:55] <bazhang> fried_penguin, try /msg alis list *ubuntu*
[02:55] <hmw> srini: I don't know. It's just, that sometimes Ubuntu just doesn't want to use the correct resolution, in which case providing the xorg.conf helps. If my template didnt help you, you could try    lspci | grep VGA  to find out what GPU you have. Then ask someone else here or do a web search:  "ubuntu <my gpu> low resolution problem" or simiar
[02:56] <jorge_> ok gracias
[02:56] <srini> hmw: ok
[02:57] <v0ltag3> actually if you boot from the live cd  I think it has a repair option
[02:57] <hutty> srini     have a look in your Xorg.log   file   to see what it loads
[02:58] <srini> hutty: shall i paste my log file
[02:58] <ZenGuy311> is there an music app that can play archives like foobar2000 can in windows?
[02:58] <hutty> srini   read it yourself!
[02:58] <LuisJa> My kubuntu installation is crashed: it seems something happened with the partition than it goes directly to tt2 than normal tty7 graphic mode, and I cannot access recovery mode to restore it, what I must do, reinstall or there is a solution? (think it happened because I turned off in a wrong way)
[02:59] <srini> hutty: i have read but not understand
[03:00] <hutty> srini   paste your xorg.conf
[03:00] <Zorge> any particular cause for a program to apparantly just close without warning
[03:01] <hmw> Zorge: no, that happens for various reasons.
[03:01] <Zorge> for instance, running x-chat gnome, during a file transfer, I walk away for a bit then when I come back, xchat has apparantly vanished without a trace
[03:02] <ZenGuy311> is there a music player in ubuntu I can use to play archives such as rar and xzip like in foobar2000 in windows?
[03:02] <Hopeless8009> I hait Linux
[03:02] <Hopeless8009> its sucks
[03:02] <ZenGuy311> troll alert
[03:02] <Sega_dude> Is there a separate irc for mac users?
[03:02] <vegar_> Hi, I'm looking at smartctl output in GSmartControl, specifically the Error Log tab. There are five errors stated there with the same type: Uncorrectable error in data. The details say there are 69 to 125 sectors at LBA address this and that. Is this serious?
[03:02] <Hopeless8009> i love windows
[03:02] <Zorge> or certain contacts in empathy, or even empathy itself, completely closes for reasons I can not pinpoint
[03:03] <vegar_> Overall, it says my drive passes tests
[03:03] <Hopeless8009> you should all switch to windows
[03:03] <v0ltag3> Hopeless8009:Yeah you have a fitting nick
[03:03] <rsk> Hopeless8009 go away or i call the police
[03:03] <ZenGuy311> Hopeless8009: and get viruses whoile running antivirus sfotware no thank you
[03:04] <vegar_> It also states "ATA Error Count: 204". Should I be worried? :p
[03:04] <fozilla> How can I run gvfs-mount smb://mysambaserver/myshare automatically on login?
[03:04] <Hopeless8009> Zenguy311: thank you very much i was trying to convice my friend that IRC and linux is the best
[03:05] <ZenGuy311> Hopeless8009:  no prob
[03:05] <ubs> hey guys
[03:05] <DCGstudios> !ask
[03:05] <nytek_> im having a problem with xorg when i uninstall gdm, i dont want to use it because i want it to load my .xinitrc. any ideas?
[03:05] <nerdy_kid> anyway to easily listen to audio from another pc via ssh?
[03:06] <vegar_> nerdy_kid: how about pulseaudio?
[03:06] <deco> nerdy_kid: sshfs
[03:06] <nerdy_kid> vegar yeah besides that
[03:06] <vegar_> nerdy_kid: you could tunnel pulseaudio through ssh with some nifty cmds
[03:06] <Crazyguy> fozilla, look for "Startup Applications" under the "Preferences"-menu (If I remember correctly)
[03:07] <deco> just mount the host music directory with sshfs on the guest pc
[03:07] <nerdy_kid> deco sshfs sounds cool, but im talking real time audio
[03:07] <Zorge> I can't seem to find any recentish discussions about these vanishing programs, its almost as if I'm a complete nutcase
[03:07] <deco> nerdy_kid: so you wanna stream audio ?
[03:08] <DCGstudios> nerdy_kid, im pretty sure you cant tunnel an audio stream via ssh, at least not that iv heard of.
[03:08] <gogeta> i got a good issue
[03:08] <fozilla> crazyguy: I've tried that without success. Also tried editing .profile
[03:08] <deco> nerdy_kid: try VLC player
[03:08] <gogeta> frends pc refuses to install linux
[03:08] <deco> gogeta: say please
[03:08] <gogeta> deco lol
[03:08] <nerdy_kid> DCGstudios hmm could be horribly wrong but i seem to recolect using cat on a /dev/ file worked
[03:09] <Crazyguy> fozilla, oh, unfortunately in that case I can't help
[03:09] <nerdy_kid> DCGstudios not me personally; think i bumped into it on a forum
[03:09] <PratterFak> anyone on here able to share files from 10.04 to Xbox 360 using uShare?
[03:09] <vegar_> nerdy_kid: that's not totally wrong, you can sample pcm data from pulseaudio and tunnel it over your ssh connection and redirect the output to your local pulseaudio server
[03:09] <gogeta> i patrrt the hdd all goes well the installer starts and it gives me some kind of kernel error abought not being able to see chnages
[03:10] <PratterFak> 9.10 works perfect, but can't access files using 10.04
[03:10] <vegar_> nerdy_kid: if the remote machine is on your LAN however, it is a lot easier to use the tcp tunneling features of pulseaudio
[03:11] <nerdy_kid> vegar well im using kubuntu on one of the pcs, so i dont actually use pulseaudio -- but would there be a way to directly access ALSA?  or should i suck it up and use pulseaudio....
[03:11] <jimdean> whats up all
[03:11] <hutty> Zorge      maybe the crashes show up in a log file?
[03:11] <vegar_> nerdy_kid: is the remote machine on your LAN?
[03:11] <nerdy_kid> vegar yeah
[03:11] <nytek_> im having a problem with xorg when i uninstall gdm, i dont want to use it because i want it to load my .xinitrc. any ideas?
[03:12] <vegar_> nerdy_kid: personally, I have a server with a system-wide pulseaudio instance hooked up to my sound system which receives pulseaudio traffic from all machines on my LAN. it works great!
[03:12] <gogeta> then the installer failes saying it cant part the hdd so i rerun the installer and the hdd is parted
[03:13] <Zorge> hutty: curious about that myself
[03:13] <bwp98h> can I (newb) get help here for installing ubuntu for the first time?
[03:13] <nerdy_kid> vegar_ ok, i guess I'll have to suck it up then lol.  I actually tried that once, but it chewed my bandwith horribly and froze the server pc.  maybe lucid fixed that....
[03:13] <PratterFak> bwp98h: i'm sure
[03:14] <PratterFak> well maybe :P
[03:14] <PratterFak> :D
[03:14] <w00tw00t> do people still use gdesklets now?
[03:14] <jimdean> hey my flux capacitor is lagging, help please?
[03:15] <vegar_> nerdy_kid: the bandwidth usage is quite low, hardly saturating my network. However, over WiFi there is some occasional stuttering.
[03:15] <nerdy_kid> vegar_ hmm strange; well ill give it a shot, thanks for your help :)
[03:15] <bwp98h> I was able to create my boot disk, put it in my Win-Vista laptop and restarted.  Saw a Ubuntu Logo and eventually a purple-ish desktop background image, but no menus, no questions to answer, no install progress - just a cursor that switches from arrow to "clock" and back again over and over
[03:15] <lvidal> hellos
[03:16] <dieselz> I am trying to centralize authentication by nfs mounting the authorized_key file on client servers.  I do this by mounting to ~/.mounted and make a symbolic link from ~/.ssh/authorized_keys to ~/.mounted/authorized_keys .  I am worried that if the NFS mount fails or the central server fails, I will lose access to all the client servers.  Is there a way to get around this problem?
[03:16] <arand> jimdean: You don't have enough Gigawatts, (and you should take it to #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[03:16] <w00tw00t> do people still use gdesklets now? or just conky?
[03:16] <vegar_> nerdy_kid: no prob, the simplest way to achieve this is to use "paprefs" on the remote machine to announce local sound devices. Then use "paprefs" on the local machine and set it to detect announced sound server. Then select remote output on your local machine through sound preferences.
[03:16] <lvidal> can I install Lucid Lynx on a MacBook 1,1 (Core Duo, year 2006)?
[03:16] <misc-> hi all, I'm wondering if anybody uses a touchscreen, specifically the one that uses the evtouch X driver (eGalax). My question is, when you plug it into usb, do you get an extra device in /dev/input/by-id/  ?
[03:17] <nerdy_kid> vegar_ yeah, thanks a bunch :D
[03:17] <vegar_> nerdy_kid: good luck :)
[03:17] <mag_> quit
[03:17] <vegar_> :p
[03:18] <PratterFak> bwp98h: to be sure, is your bios set up to boot from CD prior to HDD? if that is correct, it may be the laptop... example. i could NOT intall Ubuntu on my old Sony Viao
[03:18] <DCGstudios> w00tw00t, conky is much lighterweight and id say probably more popular then gdesklets now
[03:19] <PratterFak> anyone on here able to share files from 10.04 to Xbox 360 using uShare? 9.04 and 9.10 worked perfectly
[03:19] <lvidal> can I install Lucid Lynx on a MacBook 1,1 (Core Duo, year 2006)?
[03:19] <MeXTuX> I'm very happy because my microphone is working now. Just added "options snd-hda-intel model=3stack" to /etc/modprobe/alsa-base.conf My PC has an audio jack in the front and it is not working. Any ideas?? My chipset is SigmaTel STAC9227
[03:19] <Prajwa1> lvidal: you can !
[03:19] <Zorge> xdd send tests first attempt = 40mb then x-chat gnome vanish, second attempt 10mb then vanish, third attempt 300mb complete.  Very odd.
[03:19] <DCGstudios> lvidal, im running it on my macbook 4,1.. and i do belive 1,1 is supported as well.
[03:20] <Riviera> DCGstudios: aren't the latter superceded by screenlets anyway?
[03:20] <DCGstudios> lvidal, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam
[03:20] <Riviera> -seded
[03:20] <DCGstudios> Riviera, yea i believe so
[03:20] <PratterFak> bp98 & Ivadel: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[03:20] <bwp98h> PratterFak - yes, bios has CD-Rom Boot enabled.  I've got a laptop that's mentioned several times in the Ubuntu support forums as if others have been able to install on this model...
[03:21] <lvidal> Prajwa1: I went to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook and it seems MacBook 1,1 isn't supported :/
[03:21] <lvidal> DCGstudios: thanks, I'll check that
[03:21] <TiuTalk> hiho
[03:21] <DCGstudios> lvidal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook1-1/Karmic
[03:22] <DCGstudios> lvidal, looks like 100% support on karmic at least to me. dont see anything on lucid yet, though.
[03:22] <MisterK85> Hi everyone. :) Just wondering about the new Ubuntu 10.04 if there's ways to convert Windows fonts into a Linux font.
[03:22] <PratterFak> bp98: can you test the disc in another machine? it's possible the disc had a bad burn- that would be the next thing to eliminate as an issue
[03:22] <TiuTalk> @MisterK85 - Just copy the .TTF files to /usr/share/fonts
[03:23] <MisterK85> Thank you TiuTalk
[03:23] <bwp98h> will try and report back
[03:23] <DCGstudios> MisterK85, the font filetypes are the same most of the time
[03:23] <TiuTalk> and you'll need the flush the font cache... I think you can do that with a reboot
[03:24] <lvidal> DCGstudios: sorry for my ignorance here, I was a little away from Ubuntu. I know Lucid is the most recent release 10.04, but Karmic which number is it?
[03:24] <TiuTalk> 9.04
[03:24] <SoulRiver> #petrolina
[03:24] <TiuTalk> Karmic was 9.04 version
[03:24] <DCGstudios> lvidal, 9.10   NOT 9.04
[03:25] <DCGstudios> lvidal, 9.04 was JAUNTY JACKALOPE.
[03:25] <lvidal> ok, so 10.04 seems not to be supported :(
[03:25] <lvidal> DCGstudios: ok, so 10.04 seems not to be supported :(
[03:26] <DCGstudios> lvidal, that may be so. but 9.10 is very close if you dont mind 2 seconds more on your startup time
[03:26] <lvidal> DCGstudios: I like the new UI!!
[03:26] <DCGstudios> lvidal, well im sure if your that fixed on the eye-candy you can probably find the GTK theme for 10.04 laying around somewhere :)
[03:28] <lvidal> DCGstudios: well, I'll try it running with Parallels
[03:28] <sk8rjess> has anyone else ever had terminal not allow them to type their password?
[03:29] <DCGstudios> lvidal, okay let me know if you have any more questions.
[03:29] <lvidal> DCGstudios: thanks!
[03:30] <Guest38822> hey all, when i instaled nvidia drivers my splash screen config changed somehow, and now it looks crappy is there a way to erconfigure it?
[03:30] <travis____> reconfigure it*
[03:30] <bootstrap> sk8rjess: Your password will not be displayed as you type it.
[03:30] <travis____> fonts in terminal are now huge when they where tiny and good looking when i first installed
[03:30] <daveWilky> Anybody here use a M-Audio 2496 in ubuntu 10.04 for midi work?
[03:31] <sk8rjess> bootstrap: thanks! i thought when i tried before it kept saying incorrect but i guess i was wrong
[03:32] <Guest49315> I am using lucid with proprietary nvidia drivers and my monitor's native resolution isn't available. What is the best approach to fix this?
[03:32] <bootstrap> sk8rjess: np
[03:33] <MrGoodkat> lucid always mounts my sdcard as read only even "sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/6332-6465/ -o rw" mounts it only as ro for everyone except root and i cant change the permissions using root, it says i dont have the rights to do so
[03:35] <zakwilson> My machine is using 544mb of memory at the gdm login screen and 720 after logging in to Gnome with no apps open. This seems a bit excessive.
[03:35] <zakwilson> That's without buffers/cache added in - I expect those to use up to all the memory.
[03:37] <Hopeless8009> can some one plz tell me what is the best way keep my Ubuntu runing top notch
[03:38] <Prajwa1> i guess virtual has few issues with 10.04
[03:38] <DCGstudios> Hopeless8009, keep your home on a seperate partition to hold all your files / configurations. if you feel your losing preformance simply reformat your partition with the base OS on it.
[03:40] <dbum> Prajwa1: I think your talking about VirtualBox.... I had problems with 10.04 until sun came out with the 10.04 deb and I deleted all files in ~/.virtualbox and remapped my virtual drives... every thing is A-OK now :)
[03:40] <hmw> Hopeless8009: learn to know your system, how it ought to work and look like, read the log files regularly and "repair" stuff, if something goes out of plan. The idea with a separate /home is GREAT. I use ext3 formatting in order to have partimage working with it (Boot from USB thumb, partimage, restore the main file sys in 5 minutes)
[03:41] <Prajwa1> ok
[03:42] <Prajwa1> there are also issues like interfacing ...always comes up with a bios incampatible error message and takes up a long time to boot
[03:42] <ubs> np with ubuntu studio so far.. but what about 10.04?
[03:43] <iloveubuntu123> how do I install java on 64bit ubuntu
[03:43] <ubs> apt-get install java* gives a list
[03:44] <ubs> anybody?
[03:44] <DCGstudios> iloveubuntu123, 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk'
[03:45] <iloveubuntu123> k trying
[03:45] <DCGstudios> iloveubuntu123, 'sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk' might be required as well depending on what your trying to do
[03:45] <Prajwa1> just look in synaptic :)
[03:46] <robertson> does anyone know how to get wireless dongle working in ubuntu
[03:46] <sangho> how can i unmount cd-rom?
[03:47] <iloveubuntu123> right click the cd on desktop and click unmount..?
[03:47] <DCGstudios> robertson, going to have to be more specific. dongle type? do you have the drivers installed from administration > hardware drivers??
[03:47] <robertson> its a netgear wnda 3100
[03:48] <robertson> ive tried wine...and ndis wrapper
[03:48] <robertson> it loads the dll up and still wont see it
[03:48] <terrorPhysicist> was wondering if someone could help me out with using a vnc connection from ubuntu to windows 7 (server on w7, viewer on ubuntu)
[03:49] <iloveubuntu123> ahh im getting it from the sun site
[03:49] <terrorPhysicist> I'm using the "Remote Desktop Viewer" program on ubuntu, keeps saying "connection closed"
[03:49] <iloveubuntu123> my browser didn't pick it up
[03:49] <terrorPhysicist> thing is, I got it to work once. Nothing's changed, it just... won't work now :/
[03:49] <robertson> i connect my phone via usb teher and it works flawless
[03:49] <DCGstudios> iloveubuntu123, none of the commands i gave you to install it are from a website. enter them in terminal.
[03:50] <iloveubuntu123> I did
[03:50] <iloveubuntu123> and then I restarted firefox
[03:50] <DCGstudios> robertson, your going to have to google it to get the correct drivers. thats a very specific problem which nobody on here will be able to know off the top of there head.
[03:50] <DCGstudios> iloveubuntu123, you want to run java applets in firefox right?
[03:50] <iloveubuntu123> yes
[03:51] <DCGstudios> iloveubuntu123, install all those packages, restart your computer, then try it.
[03:51] <robertson> ive googled....got drivers...loaded them it just wont work
[03:51] <robertson> lol
[03:51] <dotnetted> hey all - after upgrading from 9.1 to 10.04 I get an error every time I boot saying that /media/drv0 cannot be mounted - I can hit 's' to skip and continue but it's still pretty annoying - Ive got through all the system logs and cant find "/media/drv0" anywhere - where might I find more info? (I think it happens when attempting to automount)
[03:51] <terrorPhysicist> can anyone help?
[03:52] <dotnetted> and I have nothing in fstab that has /media/drv0
[03:52] <DCGstudios> iloveubuntu123, your trying to solve it with emulating the windows drivers.. you should probably see if there are supported linux drivers and if not youll be in for a headache
[03:52] <robertson> ive contemplated just going out and buying a real wireless card
[03:52] <DCGstudios> dotnetted, can you pastebin your /etc/fstab file
[03:52] <terrorPhysicist> hello?
[03:53] <dotnetted> DCGstudios: yep thanks - 2 secs
[03:54] <dotnetted> DCGstudios: http://pastebin.org/237930
[03:54] <hmw> !ask | terrorPhysicist - don't expect us all to read everything in here and to know, what you asked ten years ago! ;-)
[03:54] <backtrack> hi
[03:54] <leagris> helle, how can I enable compiz effect, especially zoom in the gdm login screen?
[03:55] <terrorPhysicist> I'm trying to use VNC from my ubuntu machine to my windows machine. All I get is "connection closed". It worked before, but nothing's changed. It just... stopped working.
[03:55] <terrorPhysicist> Can anyone help?
[03:55] <hmw> !pm | Hopeless8009 - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles -
[03:55] <backtrack> hi
[03:55] <DCGstudios> dotnetted, what do you get if you run 'cd /media | ls -a | grep drv'
[03:56] <Prajwa1> hi backtrack
[03:56] <dotnetted> no output
[03:56] <thechris> terrorPhysicist, are you running vnc from the command line to see what the errors are.  typically this can happen if there is a change in the network or the server
[03:56] <Brendon> can i hack with ubuntu
[03:56] <hmw> terrorPhysicist: 1) you want to see your Windows on the Ubuntu Screen?
[03:57] <hmw> !pm | terrorPhysicist
[03:57] <hmw> 2) can you physically access the Windows machine?
[03:57] <terrorPhysicist> hmw: Yes. And Yes.
[03:57] <terrorPhysicist> thechris: I haven't tried that yet.
[03:58] <hmw> terrorPhysicist: something obviously _has_ changed. Perhaps your Ubuntu machine is now offline? Firewall blocking? Perhaps on the Windows machine, the VNC Server crashed/stopped? I prefer to let VNC run in App mode on Windows, not as a service.
[03:58] <terrorPhysicist> Also sorry about the pm, I'm used to mibbit where a /msg shows up in red, so I thought people were pm'ing me
[03:58] <DCGstudios> dotnetted, interesting... not much in your fstab regarding mounting.. what do you get if you run 'cd /var/log | cat Xorg.0.log | grep drv'
[03:58] <Prajwa1> _qw_
[03:58] <researcher1> is there a program in ubuntu to extract .rar file?
[03:58] <hmw> terrorPhysicist: don't worry about that PM :-)
[03:58] <yoyoned> researcher unrar
[03:58] <thechris> terrorPhysicist, another simple test is using things like ping to see if there is connectivity to the windows box.  also, keep in mind that some firewalls might interfere with vnc.
[03:58] <perlsyntax> Has anyone had a prob with ubuntu 10.04 on a ibm R50e laptop?
[03:59] <researcher1> yoyoned: tq
[03:59] <perlsyntax> i have prob
[03:59] <terrorPhysicist> I'm on my ubuntu machine right now. Here's what happened: I was running Ubuntu from a USB stick, and had the VNC thingy working. Then, I installed Ubuntu from the stick, and VNC was no longer working.
[03:59] <perlsyntax> ?
[03:59] <DarkDigitalDream> I was trying to give read/write permissions to all files in a directory for members of a certain group. "chmod -R g=rw dir". Now the group permissions of all subdirectories read "rwS". What is this S and why can only root access them?
[03:59] <dotnetted> DCGstudios: Xorg.0.log non-existant
[03:59] <perlsyntax> hello
[03:59] <terrorPhysicist> thechris: I'll try a ping, one sec...
[04:00] <hmw> terrorPhysicist: Hmm... let's go bottom-up: Please ping the Windows machine and see, if that works
[04:00] <ubs> perlsyntax, asking the same question
[04:00] <ubs> and still waiting..
[04:00] <amksep> shoutcast does not work in banshee any help?
[04:00] <perlsyntax> i ak if anyone is have prob to ok!
[04:00] <perlsyntax> lol@ubs whatever
[04:00] <terrorPhysicist> hmw and thechris: Successfully pinged the windows machine.
[04:01] <hmw> DarkDigitalDream: the "S" must be that SUID bit, meaning a file called by a user without sudo will still run as super user. That's all _I_ can tell you abtou that
[04:01] <dotnetted> DCGstudios: cd'd to var log then did the above: (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/extra-modules/nvidia_drv.so (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
[04:01] <amksep> hello banshee ppl
[04:01] <hmw> terrorPhysicist: Restart the windows machine. If possible, uninstall the VNC service, in order for you to be able to start VNC as a normal Application later
[04:01] <terrorPhysicist> hmw: Will do, one moment.
[04:02] <thechris> terrorPhysicist, if you have easy access to the windows box, can you see if the vnc server is running, and that any firewalls aren't trying to be overprotective
[04:02] <DarkDigitalDream> hmw: you wouldnt know how to... you know... undo this at least? set it back to old "r _ _"? When I try it the S doesnt leave. lol. I'm thinking it might be easier to delete the directory tree and start over at this point
[04:02] <hmw> DarkDigitalDream: i never acutally used that SUID bit myself, only read about. man chmod
[04:03] <ubs> perlsyntax, probably I would if I would upgrade I guess.. (pssst)
[04:03] <DCGstudios> dotnetted, 'cd /etc/init.d | cat rc.local | grep drv'
[04:03] <dotnetted> DCGstudios: ill be back - thanks for the help - have to reboot to enable some extra logging
[04:03] <DarkDigitalDream> alright. I'll read for a bit, but if it sounds too much like learnin I'm starting over ;)
[04:03] <thechris> terrorPhysicist, and the same thing goes for any "smart" networking device, like routers and whatnot
[04:03] <DCGstudios> dotnetted, okay, good idea becuase you almost got me stumpped lol
[04:03] <wers> is the ownership of files based on the username, uid, or both?
[04:03] <andres_berni> joing /wikipedi-es
[04:04] <terrorPhysicist> thechris: The VNC service was running, and I hadn't changed any firewall settings (on the w7 box or on my router) since the successful VNC connection. One moment while I try hmw's suggestion, then I'll double-check the firewalls.
[04:04] <hmw> terrorPhysicist: you can disable the firewall first for checking
[04:04] <andres_berni> joing #wikipedia-es
[04:04] <DCGstudios> wers, its based on the specific file permissions, if the user, or group has the necessary permissions he can acess it
[04:04] <terrorPhysicist> hmw: okeydokey
[04:05] <wers> DCGstudios, yesh, but how does the system assign permissions to a user/group? is it based on the UID or GID or the name of user or group?
[04:06] <PratterFak> hey, I've never had Ubuntu on a non-duel boot setup. If it is the only OS on the HDD, will there be a grub screen?
[04:06] <thechris> terrorPhysicist, I will say that if you don't actually control the network, it can be an issue.  I've had issues where campus networks would place physical ports on different subnets, even though both ports went to the same room
[04:06] <DCGstudios> wers, the users ownership level is determined by the UID and GID, 0:0 = root
[04:06] <bastid_raZor> PratterFak: 10.04 hides the grub menu but you can still access it by holding shift
[04:06] <wers> DCGstudios, thanks. got it
[04:06] <PratterFak> what about 9.10?
[04:06] <DCGstudios> wers, also, you can change the permissions of a specific file to be accessable to anyone (chmod 777)
[04:07] <thechris> terrorPhysicist, and they also didn't forward certain traffic across subnets.
[04:07] <terrorPhysicist> thechris: I'm on my home network so that shouldn't be an issue.
[04:07] <wers> DCGstudios, oh. didnt know that. thanks :)
[04:07] <terrorPhysicist> second while I do stuff on the windows machine
[04:07] <DCGstudios> wers, no problem, good luck.
[04:07] <PratterFak> i'm not liking 10.04 because I can't get it to share with my 360, but 9.10 works perfectly
[04:07] <hmw> thechris: he said, it worked before installing to HD from the USB thumb - my suspicion might be some apt-get installs on the Ubuntu side
[04:08] <myrl> how do you activate the root user in 10.04????
[04:08] <DCGstudios> myrl, sudo? or su -s?
[04:08] <thechris> hmw, likely, but I always make sure the network is set up correctly first.  anytime you aren't in control of the network, things can change at a whimn
[04:08] <paperclip> Is there a known way to hide the menu toolbar in gnome?
[04:09] <greezmunkey> myrl: pervasive sudo: sudo -i
[04:09] <trakain> can someone help me with an issue?
[04:09] <paperclip> "File....";
[04:09] <terrorPhysicist> hmw and thechris: Windows machine re-booted, VNC service unregistered, firewall disabled.
[04:09] <hmw> thechris: good point.
[04:09] <myrl> in 9.10 you could put a password to the user root
[04:09] <DCGstudios> myrl, you mean acctually log into x server with root user?
[04:09] <myrl> yes
[04:09] <leagris> Asa visually impaired, compiz zoom help me every single day. How could it be enable for the GDM login screen?
[04:09] <myrl> it was easy in 9.10
[04:10] <DCGstudios> myrl, im pretty sure you can just use 'user: root  /  password: normal root password'
[04:10] <terrorPhysicist> and by VNC service unregistered I also mean that it's not currently active.
[04:10] <hmw> terrorPhysicist: now start VNC as app. It is an entry in the start menu... VNC Server USER MODE or so
[04:10] <thechris> terrorPhysicist, it may also be possible to run the windows side from a command line, or find log files on the windows side.  this will show if the server even sees a request anymore
[04:10] <DCGstudios> myrl, simply press "other" when you try to log in and enter those
[04:10] <myrl> dcgstudios there isnt any normal root password though
[04:10] <hmw> thechris: terrorPhysicist: I always prefer to use VNC in "User Mode" and put that into the Autostart Folder for having more control
[04:10] <hmw> easier control in fact
[04:10] <myrl> dcgstudios you have to activate it
[04:10] <terrorPhysicist> hmw: done.
[04:10] <trakain> can i get some help with a GRUB issue?
[04:11] <hmw> terrorPhysicist: now use the Ubuntu VNC client again and try to connect
[04:11] <DCGstudios> myrl, okay. can you pastebin your /etc/passwd
[04:11] <soreau> leagris: That is a great question. Unfortunately (obviously) compiz is not running at gdm start time. I do not see an option for this in gdmsetup. Perhaps you can make a feature request?
[04:11] <greezmunkey> DCGstudios: !
[04:11] <thechris> trakain, what issues, and what version of grub are you using?
[04:11] <myrl> dcgstudios arent all the passwords there?
[04:11] <DCGstudios> myrl, thats where youll have to add the user
[04:11] <hmw> terrorPhysicist: if that does not work, check the settings of your VNC server with right click on the icon in the system tray of the windows machin (bottom right usually)
[04:11] <DCGstudios> myrl, would you rather me just give you the command?
[04:12] <terrorPhysicist> thechris and hmw: Whaddya know, it works. Must have been a firewall thing?
[04:12] <myrl> dcgstudios yep :)
[04:12] <trakain> latest i updated it lastnight
[04:12] <DCGstudios> myrl, might take me a second, and no theres not passwords, just users and permission levels.
[04:12] <hmw> terrorPhysicist: check by re-activating Windows' firewall
[04:12] <bastid_raZor> DCGstudios: giving the root user a password is not supported and discouraged.
[04:12] <thechris> terrorPhysicist, you're firewall software may very well have logs.
[04:12] <myrl> dcgstudios ok
[04:12] <DCGstudios> bastid_raZor, i didnt ask for a password...
[04:12] <lucitu_> update-initramfs -u -k all is resurrecting long gone kernels? know where it's reading list from? i thought from BOOTDIR
[04:12] <DCGstudios> one second, myrl.
[04:12] <myrl> ok
[04:13] <PratterFak> b_razor: does grub hide on 9.10 too, or is that just something new for 10.04?
[04:13] <terrorPhysicist> hmw: Firewall reactivated, VNC still works, so it wasn't that.
[04:13] <myrl> in 9.10 i was able to give the root user a password, how can i do that in 10.04?
[04:13] <leagris> soreau, thanks. I will investigate further then plan a feature request in launchpad.
[04:13] <greezmunkey> DCGstudios: besides, it's out there, let him google it so you are not responsible :/
[04:14] <terrorPhysicist> thechris: Good point, but even with the firewall back up, the VNC connection still works. Disconnected and reconnected even, and it's still on.
[04:14] <hmw> terrorPhysicist: Hmm. Now it's getting harder to find the reason. I'd suggest you be happy for now. If it happens again, you need to find a pattern. Once you can reproduce the "failing", you have a good chance of repairing.
[04:14] <hanasaki> how can I get all the packages installed to match another system ? including removing any that are installed nad need to be removed to make it match?
[04:14] <bastid_raZor> PratterFak: iirc, you would press esc to get a menu in 9.10 grub.  if not use shift
[04:14] <lucitu_> myrl: same thing as 9.10
[04:14] <leagris> soreau, found that: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/103533
[04:14] <myrl> nope
[04:14] <myrl> lucitu it cant
[04:14] <DCGstudios> myrl,  'useradd -g 0 -o -u 0 -b /home/root root'     then youll want to run  'passwd root' to set your password
[04:14] <soreau> leagris: It might be a good time too, as I believe they've all but completely rewritten gdm before lucid release
[04:14] <terrorPhysicist> hmw: I'm thinking it was the fact I had it registered as a service. That's the only thing that changed, and I've had similar issues in the past.
[04:14] <DCGstudios> greezmunkey, i could care less.
[04:14] <PratterFak> b_razor: awesome- thanks!
[04:14] <myrl> thanks
[04:14] <terrorPhysicist> but yeah, it's fine now soooo... thanks for all the help!
[04:14] <leagris> soreau, unfortunately, the question expired
[04:15] <hmw> terrorPhysicist: I can't tell, I never used it as service *smirks*
[04:15] <DCGstudios> myrl, of course youll need to run both of those as root.
[04:15] <myrl> thanks
[04:15] <PratterFak> b_razor: unless you know how to resolve the file sharing issue to an Xbox 360 to 10.04, then I'll use that instead ;):D
[04:16] <researcher1> I ran unrar-free on an ISO file which is in .rar format but it did not extract anything except the Serial Number file which is in .txt format. Any help please?
[04:16] <DCGstudios> myrl, acctually you might just want to use 'passwd root' becuase the user is probably already created
[04:16] <DCGstudios> myrl, either way doesnt really matter
[04:16] <uRock> myrl, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:17] <soreau> leagris: That sounds confusing and/or boring. Try a more direct approach 'is there a way to get magnified gdm login window for accessibility purposes'
[04:17] <h00k> !root | DCGstudios, myrl
[04:18] <Guest19081> yup
[04:18] <DCGstudios> h00k, its not hard to create a root user, but thanks for the false information.
[04:18] <hazizi> yup
[04:18] <h00k> DCGstudios: That information is not false :)
[04:19] <DCGstudios> h00k, yes, it is. i logged into lucid last night with user root.
[04:19] <TommyThaGun> did anyone notice a significant decrease in boot time with the latest kernel upgrade in Ubuntu?
[04:19] <IdleOne> DCGstudios: you are rght, it is not hard to activate the root user it is however NOT supported in Ubuntu. please don't suggest it to users here.
[04:20] <DCGstudios> IdleOne, i far from suggested it to anyone, he asked to set the password, i told him how. i assume he understands the "Security risks"
[04:21] <fk_007> i can't get ubuntu to boot on an hp machine i have, but xubuntu will, is there a way to upgrade or change xubuntu to regular ubuntu
[04:21] <IdleOne> DCGstudios: I understand what you are saying. What we are asking is to not tell people how to do it. Ubuntu does not support having a root account.
[04:22] <Dmstrdj> would it hurt something?
[04:22] <polk-laptop> I have 10.04 LTS and I need to know if there is a GUI tool to edit the boot menu for the HD's MBR?
[04:22] <mkquist> fk_007: so the kernel boots, but must be gnome that has the problem... and yes you can install gnome-desktop in xubuntu i believe
[04:22] <leagris> soreau, the compiz engine now belong to gnome-appearance-properties. The compiz zoom effect should belong to gnome-at-... as compiz zoom show more usefull and versatile than the gnome magnifying glass.
[04:22] <bastid_raZor> fk_007: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[04:22] <mkquist> fk_007: then you will have the option to boot to either desktop
[04:22] <bastid_raZor> mkquist: ubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <polk-laptop> if not what file do I edit in a editor for GRUB 2?
[04:23] <fk_007> well its weird on the 9.10 ubuntu when i select boot from cd it just restarts the computer
[04:23] <mkquist> bastid_raZor: ty, yes
[04:23] <xangua> polk-laptop: bootup manager i believe
[04:23] <mkquist> bastid_raZor: please send that to him too
[04:23] <polk-laptop> TU
[04:23] <mkquist> fk_007: see bastid_raZor post
[04:23] <fk_007> alright looking into it thanks
[04:24] <mkquist> fk_007: have you checked the logs to see what they might say?
[04:24] <lucitu_> IdleOne: but the installer asks you if you want root logon
[04:24] <mkquist> fk_007: i just meant the name is ubuntu-desktop to install
[04:24] <IdleOne> lucitu_: what installer? Ubuntu 10.04?
[04:24] <lucitu_> IdleOne: definitely
[04:24] <DCGstudios> lol
[04:25] <IdleOne> lucitu_: then you did not download 10.04. I did two fresh installs of 10.04 32bit and 64bit and was not asked if I wanted a root account
[04:25] <hornets> sup people?
[04:25] <hornets> where I can get some help with shell scripts?
[04:25] <fk_007> imma give it a whirl
[04:25] <lucitu_> IdleOne: are you kidding me? get the netboot
[04:25] <happosade> hornets: ask.
[04:26] <IdleOne> lucitu_: give me the link where you got the iso
[04:26] <infid> my screensaver never goes off, even though it's enabled. any idea what might be blocking it? this happened ever since i upgraded to lucid
[04:26] <hornets> happosade: I'm goin' to open a scp session
[04:26] <lucitu_> IdleOne: get the netboot- mini.iso from cdimages
[04:26] <hornets> after that the server prompts for the password
[04:26] <hornets> is it possible to enter that password with the script and <enter>?
[04:26] <happosade> I wouldn't do that
[04:27] <hornets> I know it's not safe
[04:27] <happosade> Do you know how to use SSH-keys?
[04:27] <hornets> lol
[04:27] <hornets> yes
[04:27] <happosade> Use them.
[04:27] <hornets> i'm goi'n to use cipher on the scp
[04:27] <hornets> and I'm goin to run this script on my machine
[04:27] <hornets> so no problems at all
[04:28] <hornets> happosade: so.. is it possible?
[04:28] <happosade> I don't know. Maybe you should echo that password to scp..?
[04:29] <test34> hornets, maybe keychain is what you are looking for?
[04:29] <happosade> like "scp files to:here/ < pswd"
[04:29] <lyhana8> hi, how can I undo a `rm` command ?
[04:29] <hornets> yeah yeah.. I thought something like that
[04:29] <happosade> But Il'd use keys.
[04:29] <researcher1> how to unrar a .rar file in ubuntu?
[04:29] <happosade> lyhana8: what you have removed.
[04:30] <xangua> researcherhave you already installed rar unrar packages¿
[04:30] <researcher1> yes
[04:30] <lyhana8> happosade: personnal file
[04:30] <happosade> lyhana8: in command line?
[04:30] <lyhana8> happosade: yep
[04:30] <hornets> test34: how exactly this thing works?
[04:31] <Matr|x> hi
[04:31] <happosade> I don't belive that is possible to undo it. Or if it is, I don't know.
[04:31] <Matr|x> i got this error TypeError: Non-hexadecimal digit found
[04:31] <test34> hornets, if you set it up right, it automatically enter your ssh key passphrases
[04:31] <Matr|x> eny body can help me to figer out how i resolve this problem
[04:32] <dafreak> Trying to get wireless working on a Sony Vaio laptop, has ipw2200 drivers installed, will not authenticate on a WPA/WPA2 secured network. Will connect to unsecured. Have tried loading latest test kernel, no go. This is Ubuntu 10.04 LTE. Ideas?
[04:32] <hornets> test34: even using login?
[04:32] <hornets> oops
[04:32] <hornets> bash?
[04:32] <hmw> researcher1: unrar <filename>
[04:32] <misc--> hi all, I'm using usbtouchscreen driver for lucid lynx to work with my eGalax screen but the device is not detected in /proc/bus/input/devices (however, lsusb shows it: D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax TouchScreen). Any ideas??
[04:32] <test34> hornets, using ssh, scp, etc..
[04:33] <Matr|x> eny body can help me to figer out how i resolve this problem
[04:33] <DCGstudios> dafreak, i heard of this problem earlier, and it had something to do with your wpa_supplicant service
[04:33] <Matr|x> i got this error TypeError: Non-hexadecimal digit found
[04:33] <misc--> I read everywhere that it should "just work" but I'm not getting anything
[04:33] <happosade> hornets: ssh-keygen -t rsa && cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh user@server 'cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys'
[04:33] <bastid_raZor> hornets: for a howto :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[04:33] <dafreak> DCGstudios, Yeah I thought that might be the cause looking at the wicd files. Problem is that I'm not sure how to fix it. Haven't found anything on google yet either, have any links for me that I might've missed?
[04:34] <hmw> !details | Matr|x
[04:34] <kramer3d> hi, im trying to connect to a WPA2 network but ubuntu 9.10 does not let me choose the encryption method as WPA, only WEP
[04:34] <DCGstudios> dafreak, honestly, i dont think we figured it out earlier either.. i belive he changed his network security to WEP...
[04:34] <Matr|x> ok can i pm u hmw
[04:34] <Matr|x> ?
[04:34] <hmw> please not
[04:34] <hornets> ahm thanks
[04:34] <Matr|x> ok thx
[04:34] <hornets> i'll try the keychain thing first
[04:34] <hornets> if does not work
[04:35] <happosade> kramer3d: what is your wlan's chipset.
[04:35] <hornets> I think I don't have any option
[04:35] <dafreak> The easily crackable WEP? Ugh, no way do I want to do that. Do you think if I used windows drivers via NDiswrapper would have any affect or would it still use the same wpa_supplicant?
[04:35] <kramer3d> happosade, how do I find out?
[04:35] <happosade> hornets: Do you have same username at your local and remote computers
[04:35] <DCGstudios> dafreak, iv heard of slight loss of speed with ndiswrapper but im with you, WEP is very crackable.
[04:36] <happosade> kramer3d: Google your laptop/wlan-card
[04:36] <kramer3d> ok
[04:36] <DCGstudios> dafreak, let me take a look into it real quick ill see what i can find
[04:36] <Zelozelos> what can i use to automatically mount my ntfs file system?
[04:36] <hornets> happosade: yes.
[04:36] <dafreak> thanks DCGstudios
[04:37] <jbuncher> can anyone help me with fixing the plymouth screen on boot in lucid for an nvidia card when the system is running grub 1?  All of the stuff I have found only include instructions for grub 2.
[04:37] <loganhoup> Hi, my wireless is not working in ubuntu 9.10. It will connect and then lose it's connection and usually repeat this again and again. My wireless card is an atheros AR2413
[04:37] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: ntfs-config can add it to your fstab
[04:37] <Zelozelos> bastid_raZor, how do i do it?
[04:37] <happosade> hornets: then there shouldn't be any problems. :)
[04:37] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: install ntfs-config then run it.. it is a GUI application
[04:37] <hmw> happosade the term "websearch" might be somewhat more neutral ;-)
[04:38] <loganhoup> Hi, my wireless is not working in ubuntu 9.10. It will connect and then lose it's connection and usually repeat this again and again. My wireless card is an atheros AR2413. Any help is appreciated.
[04:38] <loganhoup> Hi, my wireless is not working in ubuntu 9.10. It will connect and then lose it's connection and usually repeat this again and again. My wireless card is an atheros AR2413. Any help is appreciated.
[04:38] <happosade> hmw: Oh, I forgot :) (I belive that here in Finland 95% of all websearchs is made with google.)
[04:39] <happosade> kramer3d: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers - Maybe that would say something.
[04:39] <Zelozelos> bastid_raZor, is that the same pgm as "storage device manager" if so last time i used it it caused issues
[04:39] <loganhoup> Hi, my wireless is not working in ubuntu 9.10. It will connect and then lose it's connection and usually repeat this again and again. My wireless card is an atheros AR2413. Any help is appreciated.
[04:39] <DCGstudios> dafreak, this probably isnt the most elegant solution but can you connect with 'iwconfig eth0 ap any'   (of course replace eth0 with whatever interface your using)
[04:39] <hmw> happosade: same here, but someone told me, and I like to not use that company's name
[04:39] <loganhoup> Hi, my wireless is not working in ubuntu 9.10. It will connect and then lose it's connection and usually repeat this again and again. My wireless card is an atheros AR2413. Any help is appreciated.
[04:39] <happosade> !repeat | loganhoup
[04:39] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: no it is a different application.
[04:39] <kramer3d> happosade, i switched to a newer USB wirless thing and it works, i guess my old one doesnt support wpa2 :P thanks for the help
[04:39] <hmw> !patience | loganhoup
[04:39] <kerozene> loganhoup: I am aware of your wireless issue now. thank you
[04:39] <Zelozelos> bastid_raZor, ahhh ok, so apt-get ntfs-config right?
[04:40] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: yes.
[04:40] <dafreak> hmmm ok I'll give that a shot DCGstudios
[04:40] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[04:40] <Zelozelos> awsome, thank you bastid_raZor
[04:41] <DCGstudios> dafreak, please post the result, remember you will not have an IP address until you run 'dhclient eth0' (or whatever interface)
[04:41] <shiznebit_> hi i need some help
[04:41] <happosade> kramer3d: okay, good. Have a nice day. :)
[04:41] <hmw> where is ubottu?
[04:41] <shiznebit_> how do i get a friend to connect to freenode
[04:41] <shiznebit_> if he is in china
[04:41] <happosade> ubottu: ping
[04:41] <bazhang> shiznebit_, please ask in #freenode
[04:42] <Zelozelos> bastid_raZor, is there a way to hide that icon from my desktop?
[04:42] <magn3ts> ~paste
[04:43] <hmw> hmm... happosade - thx. It didnt do the !patience thing
[04:43] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: yes, one sec and i'll give you the way..
[04:43] <haavaros> Hi! I'm trying to create some partitions, but get a long error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/433661/. What does it mean?
[04:43] <magn3ts> Really? Ubuntu's pastebin is hosted at pastebin.com?
[04:43] <magn3ts> yuck
[04:44] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: gconf-editor goto /apps/nautilus/desktop then uncheck volumes_visible
[04:45] <loganhoup> So since everyone is so aware of it. Any progress?
[04:45] <hmw> haavaros: with what tool are you trying to do that?
[04:45] <Zelozelos> bastid_raZor, oh right on! if i do that it wont show any mounted items right?
[04:45] <kerozene> I'm setting up a web server, wondering what extra package repos are safe to enable
[04:46] <panzer> ok so I am trying to install latest nvidia drivers.  When I hit ctrl+alt+F2 to go to another terminal I don't actually get a terminal.  How can I stop gdm to install the driver?
[04:46] <haavaros> hmw: System > Admin > Disk tool (palimpsest?)
[04:46] <happosade> haavaros: gparted is good tool for that. Remeber to start it whit sudo to have permissions to do things. And be careful.
[04:46] <kerozene> is it ok to use *verse on a production server?
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> panzer:  no consoles on alt-ctrl f1 through f6 either?
[04:46] <panzer> Dr_Willis: neg
[04:46] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: on the desktop, no.. they are still visible in Places menu
[04:47] <Zelozelos> thats perfect, i was looking to do that next thanks for the info bastid_raZor
[04:47] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: glad to help.
[04:47] <magn3ts> Can someone explain to me why this happens randomly when I boot sometimes. Sometimes it will happen 6 times in a row. Sometimes it will go two days without doing it. It's incredibly frustrating. I'd rather use Windows 3.1 than use Ubuntu w/o accelerated graphics. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/D8mukTJa
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> panzer:  well if you MUST have the latest drivers.. and want to stop gdm. You could do 'sudo service gdm stop' from a terminal in X also.
[04:48] <panzer> thanks Dr_Willis will try that.
[04:48] <ubertroll> LeeJunFan is gay.
[04:48] <ubertroll> phantom111212 is gay
[04:48] <DCGstudios> lol'
[04:48] <bastid_raZor> ubertroll: please stop.
[04:48] <ubertroll> bastid_raZor is gay
[04:48] <DCGstudios> if i feed the troll will he go away?
[04:48] <FrozenFire> !ops
[04:49] <haavaros> happosade: Thx. Btw, how do I know where the grub is? so I don't overwrite it when deleting partitions
[04:49] <happosade> panzer: or maybe s/stop/restart to start it again.
[04:49] <loganhoup> Hi, my wireless is not working in ubuntu 9.10. It will connect and then lose it's connection and usually repeat this again and again. My wireless card is an atheros AR2413. Any help is appreciated.
[04:49] <FrozenFire> Not all that idle, now are you, IdleOne?
[04:49] <FrozenFire> :P
[04:49] <iDope> guys I have a strange problem. My memory usage is very high and the sum of the memory usage of all my processes is nowhere near the total memory being used according to system monitor and top.
[04:49] <happosade> !grub
[04:49] <hmw> !wifi | Did you already check out these pages? There is a very good troubleshooting guide in there, too
[04:50] <hmw> whats up with ubottu?
[04:50] <kerozene> does anyone use the universe repo on a live webserver?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  ive noticed that sometimes (often in the last day) when i boot up Nvidia goes into its 'you are running in low res' warning mode. If i just do a 'sudo service gdm restart' from the console it straightens out. I THINK it has somthing to do with GDM not waiting long enough for the Nvidia drivers to get initilized
[04:50] <bastid_raZor> iDope: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/  may explain a bit
[04:50] <happosade> haavaros: By deault you shouldn't do anything for / to avoid mistakes.
[04:50] <panzer> Dr_Willis: neg on that too.  It shows me some logs.  but does not give me a console
[04:50] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, this is a very frustrating new addition to 10.04 :(
[04:51] <happosade> !ping
[04:51] <loganhoup> Hi, my wireless is not working in ubuntu 9.10. It will connect and then lose it's connection and usually repeat this again and again. My wireless card is an atheros AR2413. Any help is appreciated.
[04:51] <iDope> I already did this: echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[04:51] <loganhoup> This place is quite dead tonight.
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  ive had the issue appear, then vanish.. then reappear all during beta. I cant even make it do it on a regular basis.
[04:51] <hmw> loganhoup: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs#Troubleshooting
[04:51] <iDope> so its not disk cache
[04:52] <ChogyDan> !midi
[04:52] <loganhoup> At least that's constructive.
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts: there is some delay setting in a gdm config ive heard that Might make it wait a bit longer and stop the issue - I thought i had that # set.. but it may of been reverted in some updates. Im double checking it now
[04:52] <hmw> loganhoup: ubottu seems to be tired today :(
[04:52] <sudobash> where did the button next to the location bar that let you turn the location bar from text to buttons on nautilus in 10.04?
[04:52] <panzer> Dr_Willis: rebooted and got to a console thanks.
[04:52] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, yeah, at first it was almost exactly every other time. Then I've got three days w/ no problems. and I'll be damned if I've had resume from hibernate work with accel or non-accel graphics :(
[04:52] <magn3ts> Surely there must be a way to tell gdm to be more patient
[04:52] <kaushal> hi
[04:52] <kaushal> is there a way to know which version of mysql server is available on 10.04 without installing it ?
[04:53] <hmw> loganhoup: you get what you paid for.
[04:53] <loganhoup> hmw: true
[04:53] <bastid_raZor> kaushal: apt-cache policy packagename or you can look on packages.ubuntu.com
[04:53] <seme> hey guys.. anyone know how to hide join/part messages in empathy?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:   i never use hibernate/suspend.
[04:53] <mneptok> kaushal: apt-cache show mysql-server
[04:53] <iDope> loganhoup: That happened with me quite a lot when I was on a Wireless-N network with my Intel 5300 AGN card. But that was a known bug in the iwlagn module for intel cards
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  theres a gdm config custome file that has a timeout entry.. but i cant find it now
[04:53] <loganhoup> hmw: canidate for deletion at the top of the wiki is always promising.
[04:53] <ChogyDan> anyone know about midi support and pulseaudio?  is "open /dev/snd/midiC0D0 failed"
[04:54] <mneptok> loganhoup: try a 10.04 live session to see if performance improves in a more recent release?
[04:54] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, any hints :P I'll go looking after this game (Halo reach beta :D)
[04:54] <kerozene> cool, repeat-flooding works
[04:54] <kaushal> bastid_raZor: Thanks a ton
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  /usr/share/gdm/custom.conf ---> 2 lines -> [deamon]   GdmXserverTimeout=30
[04:54] <kaushal> mneptok: Thanks a lot :)
[04:54] <loganhoup> mneptok: I'll attempt downloading it. being tethered to my router is sort of awkward right now.
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  but that may be incorrect.. it dosent seem to be working like it shoudl here.
[04:54]  * kerozene goes to work crafting a repeatable question about which repos to enable for production web servers
[04:55] <mneptok> kaushal: and you *should* be using MariaDB ;)
[04:55] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, I'll do some investigation. thanks for hte pointer. Its relieving just to know someone else is having difficulties
[04:55] <Nilbus> how can you tell if your wireless is connected via G or N?
[04:55] <happosade> !ping
[04:55] <bazhang> happosade, /msg ubottu please
[04:55] <hmw> omg someone resurrect ubottu
[04:55] <lyhana8> any idea why testdisk tell me there is no reiserfs lib ? I got reiserprogs
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  some docs say to al;ter the /etc/gdm/custome.conf instead..    so it may be not reading that usr/share/gdm/custome.conf file
[04:56] <loganhoup> idope: now it's just quit trying to connect..
[04:56] <Matr|x> hello i have this problem http://pastie.org/961280
[04:56] <hornets> is it bad to run crontab each 5 sec?
[04:56] <hmw> bazhang: he is also making a point with !ping, thus saying that ubottu does not answer, perhaps you know, who we should inform?
[04:56] <iDope> bastid_raZor: Well I have certainly taken cacheing out of the equaiton. I still can't understand why even after clearing the cache its using 1.5GB of RAM
[04:57] <Matr|x> hello i have this problem http://pastie.org/961280
[04:57] <Matr|x> hmw
[04:57] <Matr|x> i paste my problem plz see it
[04:57] <kerozene> does anyone here run ubuntu on a server?
[04:57] <hmw> where can I find ubottu's factoids? It crashed _again_ apparently.
[04:58] <bazhang> hmw, its not necessary to test the bot every few seconds; its under increased load lately so doing that will worsen the situation
[04:58] <kerozene> straw poll: what repos do you enable?
[04:58] <Matr|x> eny help plz http://pastie.org/961280
[04:59] <sudobash> where did the button next to the location bar that let you turn the location bar from text to buttons on nautilus in 10.04?
[04:59] <bastid_raZor> hmw: http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <dbum> hmw:    http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> Matr|x:  give at least a small summary of the problem. along with the paste url.
[04:59] <hmw> Matr|x: I still can't see what you were doing, but in this case, I won't be of much help anyways, I have no clue about python. "Non hexdec digit found" might be some error in the code, or in a config file.
[04:59] <bastid_raZor> hmw:  uh drop the -nl on that
[04:59] <hmw> thanks guys
[04:59] <dafreak> DCGStudios it keeps trying to obtain a dhcp ip address but eventually times out with a No DHCPOFFERS received. This is after doing a sudo iwconfig ap any then a sudo dhclient eth1
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> sudobash:  it got removed i recall. You can get it to toggle with ctrl-l or the / key
[05:00] <Matr|x> may i m u dr_willis
[05:00] <kerozene> server admins: what extra repos are safe to enable?
[05:00] <sudobash> cool thanks
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Matr|x:  it wont do much good if i dont even know the basics of what the problem is. I dont go to every URL someone posts to read their actual issue.
[05:00] <bastid_raZor> hmw: disregard my post.. it is horribly wrong
[05:00] <greezmunkey> *Old_News* PS3 upgrade to disable ability to load Linux: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/03/sonys-ps3-update-supercomputer-users/
[05:00] <salil> Can i make the gnome-panel not always on top?
[05:01] <bazhang> greezmunkey, that is offtopic here. try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:01] <theadmin> salil: Auto-hide it...
[05:01] <gartral> got a dell inspiron 9100 with ATI 9700 (9600-m10).. what's the name of the driver? hardware frivers doesnt wanna work
[05:01] <salil> theadmin: But I want it to show, just not show above a maximised window..
[05:02] <greezmunkey> bazhang: agreed, sorry.
[05:02] <kerozene> theadmin: do you run ubuntu servers?
[05:02] <theadmin> salil: Well, there doesn't seem to be a way according to what I'm seeing
[05:02] <hmw> bastid_raZor: heh. :) now i put it on my blog, i will never have to ask again
[05:02] <Alien_Freak> I have an nvidia card with a vga and dvi port.  I'm trying to replace an old monitor (vga) with a new one (dvi) and ubuntu doesn't want to recognize the 2nd one
[05:02] <theadmin> kerozene: huh. Well, I was experimenting with LAMP at home someday
[05:02] <kerozene> theadmin: what repos do you typically enable?
[05:02] <hmw> bazhang: may I PM you about ubottu?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  when in doubt - only enable the repos for programs you need.
[05:03] <bazhang> hmw, sure
[05:03] <Alien_Freak> I think it defaults to the VGA.... and won't let me change that
[05:03] <magn3ts> Is anyone else having problems with renewing IP addresses after sleep/hibernation in Lucid? This is an unfortunate new problem....
[05:03] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: the issue is about package freshness
[05:03] <theadmin> kerozene: http://paste.ubuntu.com/433666/
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> Packages have a 'best if used by date' now ?
[05:03] <kerozene> theadmin: thanks for the info
[05:03] <wildbat> hi, anyone know where do i set gvfs option? i wanna mount some share upon login and make change the permission setting of the mount. OR how do i umount cifs from fstab be4 network manager shutdown?
[05:04] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: you want me to define 'freshness' in this context?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  clarifing the problem is proberly a good idea.
[05:04] <kerozene> freshness = how recent a version of the software is packaged in the repo
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> Alien_Freak:  some video cards may not let you do 2 monitors .  Whats the  cards #/version
[05:05] <theadmin> kerozene: naja, latest != best
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  you mean more 'up to date version' then.  and i agree with theadmin
[05:05] <HinHin> =_= just installed Ubuntu 10.04
[05:05] <HinHin> i gotta say this release is pretty crappy.
[05:05] <HinHin> (64bit edition)
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> HinHin:   this is for support not complaints.
[05:05] <Alien_Freak> Dr_Willis, I'm not trying to do 2 monitors.. I want to do 1 monitor.  but use the dvi port instead of the vga one
[05:05] <kerozene> latest != best isn't very informative with respect to where the best balance can be found :)
[05:06] <Alien_Freak> one sec on the card...
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> Alien_Freak:  Hmm. On my 3 nvidia systems. I power off. unplug vga. plug in dvi. and power up and it works.  You may want to check the xorg.conf
[05:06] <theadmin> kerozene: Well i dunno... I compiled latest Nmap from source and it is perfect, dunno why we still have that old version :/
[05:06] <kerozene> obviously there is a tradeoff between features/bugfixes and tested security/stability
[05:06] <HinHin> upon updating the system (clean install) grub-pc locked up
[05:06] <HinHin> is this a common bug?
[05:06] <HinHin> 64bit edition
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> Alien_Freak:  its possible theres some settings in the xorg.conf goofing it up. You could move the xorg.conf to xorg.conf.TESTING  and try restarting X without a xorg.conf
[05:06] <Alien_Freak> yeah... not sure why it wouldn't just pick it up.  If I boot off a live cd it just works
[05:07] <bazhang> HinHin, checked launchpad yet?
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> Alien_Freak:  you DO get at least a bios/post screen on the new monitor?
[05:07] <kerozene> theadmin: yeah, compiling from source is something I want to avoid as much as possible
[05:07] <HinHin> bazhang, yea i have... :\ my problem isn't quite the same
[05:07] <Alien_Freak> Dr_Willis, that worked.  If I nuke the xorg.conf it loads in low rest just fine
[05:07] <HinHin> i left apt-get trying to upgrade grub... it just hangs there
[05:07] <Alien_Freak> but as soon as I run nvidia-xorg and reboot..it gets retarded again
[05:07] <HinHin> the rest of the system is working
[05:07] <bazhang> HinHin, then file an appropriate one
[05:07] <HinHin> sure
[05:08] <kerozene> theadmin: by old, you mean the package in universe?
[05:08] <theadmin> kerozene: Usually sums up to "gzip -d somefile.tar.gz && tar xfjv somefile.tar && cd somefile-folder && ./configure && make && sudo make install", and yeah I mean that
[05:09] <kerozene> I'm not saying compiling is hard, I'm saying it creates blind spots when you're trying to prioritise security
[05:09] <bastid_raZor> theadmin: checkinstall is the preferred method now.. it enables you to remove the application via any package manager
[05:09] <rubyphyte1> for some reason after I upgraded from karmic to lucid my vuze broke...has anyone seen this before...I googled and found some references but no solutions
[05:09] <Matr|x> dr_wiliams
[05:09] <theadmin> bastid_raZor: Well... Indeed, but for some cases make install works just fine (i.e. when you manually specify a prefix, so that you can just delete the folder and tada)
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Alien_Freak:  perhaps you need to check the xorg.conf the tool makes. for my DVI monitors  they normally default to the proper res.
[05:10] <gartral> rubyphyte1: sudo apt-get purge vuse && sudo apt-get install vuze
[05:10] <salil> theadmin: mehehehe
[05:10] <gartral> s/vuse/vuze
[05:10] <theadmin> salil: ?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> !tab | Matr|x
[05:11] <Matr|x> nothing happend
[05:11] <Matr|x> :)
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> bot is slow.
[05:11] <Matr|x> !tab Dr_Willis>
[05:11] <Matr|x> !tab Dr_Willis
[05:11] <IdleOne> Dr_Willis: bot is experiencing fatigue
[05:11] <Matr|x> :P
[05:11] <gartral> !autocomplete
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> learn to hit the tab key Matr|x  to complete names/commands
[05:11] <bazhang> Matr|x, please stop that
[05:11] <magn3ts> (s)he must be hungover
[05:11] <theadmin> Matr|x: Don't abuse da bot
[05:11] <Matr|x> ok
[05:11] <bazhang> Matr|x, use tab to complete someone's name
[05:11] <theadmin> It's asleep
[05:11] <kerozene> it's a bit scary that nobody here seems to self-identify as a server admin :]
[05:11] <gartral> !botsnack
[05:11] <gartral> hmm
[05:11] <magn3ts> kerozene, are you looking for one
[05:12] <ZykoticK9> rubyphyte1, does vuse use java?  if so are you using sun's java or the openjava?
[05:12] <kerozene> the opinion of one
[05:12] <gartral> !ops | ubbottu
[05:12] <bazhang> gartral, ??
[05:12] <theadmin> gartral: ...wtf
[05:12] <IdleOne> gartral: stop please
[05:12] <rubyphyte1> nope it still doesn'twork same error: sudo apt-get purge vuse && sudo apt-get install vuze
[05:12] <Matr|x> some body help me
[05:12] <bazhang> theadmin, watch the language
[05:12] <gartral> bot is dead
[05:12] <rubyphyte1> Unable to locate swt in /usr/share/java
[05:12] <theadmin> bazhang: Sorry.
[05:12] <mirkso_> df
[05:12] <theadmin> Somebody do something to ubottu, dead bot is not fun
[05:12] <kerozene> magn3ts: what about you?
[05:13] <bazhang> gartral, that is NOT the way to test.  in future /msg ubottu
[05:13] <theadmin> gosh o_O
[05:13] <theadmin> What a lag.
[05:13] <gartral> bazhang: i tested with several commands at first, over both #ubuntu and /msg
[05:14] <theadmin> I have a feeling that the "Preferences" submenu of "System" is no longer gonna fit on my screen in Maverick :/
[05:14] <magn3ts> kerozene, well I run an ubuntu server but I just setup apache and followed a tutorial to setup dovecot and postfix
[05:15] <kerozene> magn3ts: from the default repos?
[05:15] <salil> The CPU frequency scaling monitor applet in gnome-panel has a setting which says "monitoring cpu".. Does this mean that when i change the mode to "powersave", it only changes for one cpu?
[05:15] <IdleOne> theadmin: maverick in #ubuntu+1 please
[05:16] <theadmin> IdleOne: Uh, really? I mean, it's already open for maverick? I mean, we don't even have an Alpha build
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> salah, i believe it is set per-cpu, but i could be wrong
[05:16] <IdleOne> theadmin: yes it is
[05:16] <magn3ts> kerozene, yeah, I may have enabled universe or something, but otherwise its just stock repos.
[05:16] <magn3ts> kerozene, whats bugging you?
[05:17] <cozby> hey, new to Ubuntu.. I just did a system update (it told me I had updates). After doing such, I was no longer able to connect to my wireless AP? But I could connect to not secured just fine....?
[05:17] <cozby> is there a way I can reverse updates, or see a log of what was recently updated?
[05:17] <Matr|x> i dont undrstand
[05:17] <Matr|x> wht u said to me
[05:17] <kerozene> magn3ts: just wanna do the right thing setting up a public server
[05:18] <ZykoticK9> cozby, hold shift as your computer starts and see if booting into an older kernel solves the issue (good for testing anyway)
[05:18] <kerozene> if universe has a history of unpatched vulns I won't bother with it
[05:18] <cozby> ZykoticK9, interesting OK, and if it does, then what?
[05:18] <rubyphyte1> fixed it...had to make it completely remove the package, and I also reinstalled the swt library...not sure which one did it
[05:18] <ZykoticK9> cozby, at least you know where the problem lies to report a bug ;)
[05:18] <cozby> I don't know if they were system updates but there were updates for packages, and security ups too.
[05:18] <kerozene> if the security of packages in universe tends to be good, I'll take it so I get more up-to-date packages
[05:19] <cozby> ZykoticK9, bummer, alright, thx mate
[05:19]  * cozby reebots
[05:19] <cozby> .exit
[05:19] <cozby> er
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  even then  they wont be as uptodate as you may want.
[05:19] <kerozene> but I realise that a security history that is acceptable for the desktop might not be for servers...so I ask here
[05:19] <dafreak> Anybody else have ideas on how to potentially fix my wireless issue with Ubuntu 10.04 LTE? This is on a Sony Vaio laptop, ipw2200 drivers loaded, fails to authenticate witha  WPA2 enabled router. DCGStudios gave me a couple of ideas but no go so far.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> If a package is in Universe.. then i dont think its in other  of the default repos in lower versions..  kerozene  you MAY be thinking of the 'backports' repo.
[05:20] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: sure, so then it's time to get the src. I'm not looking for a binary answer here...just opinions
[05:20] <Alien_Freak> LTE?
[05:20] <salil> The CPU frequency scaling monitor applet in gnome-panel has a setting which says "monitoring cpu".. Does this mean that when i change the mode to "powersave", it only changes for one cpu?
[05:20] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: really? that's interesting
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  thats how the packaging/repos/versions/release cycle works in ubuntu
[05:20] <kerozene> see I'm coming from centos where the default repo has quite stale packages of some software
[05:20] <Viking667> LTE or LTS?
[05:21] <look> what is the picture viewer called on ubuntu 8.04-9.10?
[05:21] <dbum> ZykoticK9: I've always had that problem (same as cozby) with the NDIS wireless wrapper (using windoze drivers) do you know if there is linux drivers for linksys access point?  (WUB11 v.4)
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> salil, (sorry missed your nic last time) i believe it is set per-cpu, but i could be wrong
[05:21] <crdlb> look: eog
[05:21]  * mirkso_ 
[05:21] <look> serious?
[05:21] <bastid_raZor> salil: you could check this by installing cpufrequtils then running cpufreq-info
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> dbum, sorry no idea
[05:21] <dafreak> sorry LTS guys
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  ubuntu updated every 6 mo to the next release. in theory there should be very few updates btween releases. (just for security issues, not just version changes)
[05:21] <crdlb> look: it stands for eye of gnome
[05:21] <dbum> ZykoticK9 thanx anyway
[05:21] <theadmin> crdlb: eog? End Of Good?
[05:21] <look> crdlb, thanks
[05:21] <theadmin> ah I see.
[05:21] <salil> bastid_raZor: Thanks.. right away..
[05:21] <Alien_Freak> I was like...wow... they got a new spin off?  must download
[05:21] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: I'm on lts (hardy)
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  then if you want updated packages yOu may want to go to the next LTS then
[05:22] <kerozene> does that not affect it?
[05:22] <magn3ts> kerozene, ahhh whatcha running?
[05:22] <kerozene> magn3ts: just lamp, maybe ror
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[05:22] <bastid_raZor> salil: you also get the ability to change both with cpufreq-set  .. man cpufreq-set  .. to get more info on howto
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[05:23] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: next lts available to me is lucid :/
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  and your point is?
[05:23] <kerozene> too new
[05:23] <salil> bastid_raZor: Damn.. It only sets one... Isn't that uncool? I will have to add two of them or just go for a script with cpufreq-set..
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> you just said you were wanting newer.. so  i dont see the problem.
[05:24] <kerozene> no, I said I wanted opinions on the best balance between security and freshness
[05:24] <magn3ts> kerozene, either of those should be veeeery straightforward to setup
[05:24] <magn3ts> just make sure you spend the time setting up ssh/iptables securely
[05:24] <bastid_raZor> salil: i personally have never liked the applet .. i prefer to use cli tools to set it and have conky monitor things
[05:24] <look> crdlb, what is the latest version of eog may i ask?
[05:25] <magn3ts> kerozene, articles.slicehost.com and linode's wiki is very good for getting started with hosting your own server. They are guides for using their VPS service but its the same stuff you'd run on a self hosted box
[05:25] <crdlb> look: same as the rest of gnome, 2.30
[05:25] <look> crdlb, thanx once again
[05:25] <kerozene> magn3ts: thanks but the procedural stuff isn't a problem
[05:25] <kerozene> I'm thinking this is more..cultural :)
[05:26] <kerozene> knowing where the waterholes are in the desert kinda thing
[05:26] <magn3ts> kerozene, lol not sure I understand
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  you are not the only one with that problem. :)
[05:27] <kerozene> I'm just trying to get a feel for conventional ways of looking at things when running ubuntu, that are different to other distros
[05:27] <kerozene> understanding the differences between repos is part of that
[05:27] <deco> i have UserDir module loaded , /home/foobar/public_html  works but php files are not being parsed
[05:30] <kerozene> I guess I'll just have to set up another server to experiment with
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> virtualbox is handy for experimentation
[05:30] <stiltzkin> hey guys! can anyone help me with a stubborn eSATA ExpressCard?
[05:31] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: yeah, I use that for IE6 testing
[05:31] <stiltzkin> it used to work on Gutsy, on a different laptop. Could never get it to work on 9.10+ or on this computer at all.
[05:32] <stiltzkin> It's a AKE BC338. I've uploaded the relevant portion of my dmesg here: http://pastebin.com/FdLdXi7E
[05:32] <sjd> hi I got a very strange problem now, I'm trying to connect to an ad-hoc wifi connection in another laptop to share internet. But I'm not able to connect when we use WEP encryption even if I give the right passphrase. but its working with no authentication mode. what could be wrong? I'm using ubuntu 9.10
[05:33] <corpse> Im having some problems running certian games. I just tryed to run glest and i can hear the sound but i just get a black screen. The same happens with counter strike and counter strike source. I end up having to cold boot. Any ideas as to were i can start to trouble shoot this problem?
[05:33] <kerozene> sjd: so disable WEP, it's worthless anyway
[05:33] <Hopeless8009> can someone PM me a usefull tip about Ubuntu
[05:33] <spO> hi
[05:33] <stiltzkin> sjd: I think the problem is that 9.10 doesn't do hex keys for WEP properly, if you really need to use WEP then google manually feeding the key to iwconfig
[05:34] <Hopeless8009> hi
[05:34] <spO> i need to know how to use find to find all 0 bit files, or empty files
[05:34] <sjd> kerozene: but I presume there would be some crackers around. what to do?
[05:34] <kerozene> use WPA
[05:34] <sjd> stiltzkin: but WEP has been working with other wifi networks on the same laptop.
[05:34] <ogen> this is horrible. My display resolution popped to 800x600 when the computer froze this time. It's a Dell 19" monitor and you'd think I was blind. Please what can I do? The resolution was much bigger (I checked it) before the freeze.
[05:35] <stiltzkin> spO: use the -size switch, I guess with 0 as the argument
[05:35] <stiltzkin> sjd: maybe your other WEP networks used different size keys. I think it's the larger keys it doesn't handle properly. I had this problem a few times. Seriously though, a better solution is to use WPA or no encryption at all. WEP is useless
[05:36] <stiltzkin> can anyone glean anything from my dmesg dump? http://pastebin.com/FdLdXi7E
[05:36] <sjd> stiltzkin: oh. I tried with smaller keys also. Let me try it with WPA then.
[05:37] <iDope> I have run into something extremely weird. My memory usage on an Ubuntu 64bit LiveCD is very believable. around 300-400 MB in all out of my 4GB installed RAM. But when I log into my installed system it's 1.4 GB right from the start. And its not disk cache (I have cleard that multiple times). The troubling part is that the sum of the memory used by all the programs is still around 400 MB, so where is this extra RAM going? Can anyone help me find out?
[05:37] <ogen> computer (AMD Ubuntu 9.10 keeps freezing. This time it was NOT during a video.. but I had seen half a movie in VLC - until the file ran out.
[05:37] <philipjfry> hello! recently upgraded a motherboard and ive got everything working except audio. my searches havent found me anything useful, what should i look for?
[05:37] <salil> bastid_raZor: Is there a similar console app for setting the laptop-screen brightness?
[05:37] <stiltzkin> iDope: where are you looking to see how much memory your programs are taking up?
[05:38] <iDope> stiltzkin: i've used top and gnome-system-monitor, both show around 1.4Gigs
[05:38] <iDope> free -m reports the same
[05:38] <stiltzkin> iDope: is your CPU usage normal?
[05:38] <dbum> philipjfry: Do you have a soundcard and onboard sound??
[05:38] <iDope> stiltzkin: very normal.
[05:39] <iDope> less than 5% each core
[05:39] <stiltzkin> iDope: and you don't have swap configured to use ram or anything weird like that?
[05:39] <philipjfry> no soundcard, just onboard
[05:39] <iDope> stiltzkin: no... no gimmicks.
[05:39] <dbum> philipjfry: oh ok..... I had the wrong device selected and it was driving me nuts.... is it showing up in sound prefs?
[05:40] <stiltzkin> iDope: if it's not showing up in top or free than I really have no idea. At that point I'd be weirded out enough to reinstall. I'll bet someone else can give you a better answer though ;)
[05:40] <philipjfry> dbum, yeah it is
[05:40] <spikeb> hmm, gnome system monitor shows 341MiB for me
[05:40] <bastid_raZor> salil: sorta but its more of editing a file to change the brightness.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=858368
[05:40] <dbum> philipjfry: hum..... don't really know... sorry
[05:40] <LinuxPhreak> I prefer Ubuntu for my work, because I'm most familair with it. I want to dedicate an older computer as firewall. What software would I need to add to Ubuntu to make a computer act as SOHO firewall?
[05:40] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: you mentioned backports - it's not enabled by default but it would seem like a good idea for any server. agree?
[05:40] <iDope> stiltzkin: I am pretty much almost weirded out to that point myself :)
[05:40] <spikeb> backports are a terrible idea for a server
[05:40] <philipjfry> dbum, thanks anywyas
[05:41] <salil> bastid_raZor: Ah thanks for searching.. i thought you would know it right away.. Didn't mean to be a lazy prick..
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  totally depends on your needs. THere might not be many 'server' things backported..  I rarely do 'servers'
[05:41] <kerozene> spikeb: want to elaborate?
[05:41] <bastid_raZor> salil: heh, no worries.. i have decent google-fu
[05:41] <spikeb> kerozene, generally. on a server, you want things to stay as static as possible so less things can go wrong.
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  if you are wanting updated packages. You may as well use the next LTS release. backported stuff is techically not supported by ubuntu (i think)
[05:42] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: interesting point, thx
[05:42] <stiltzkin> does anyone else here have an eSATA ExpressCard working in Linux? Or know how to set one up?
[05:42] <crdlb> iDope: are you looking at the second line of free -m?
[05:42] <eryn_1983> um guys i got SERIOUS problems
[05:42] <bastid_raZor> iDope: can you pastebin your free -m output?
[05:42] <kerozene> spikeb: I thought backports was all about incorporating bugfixes into older packages?
[05:43] <eryn_1983> i was attempting to install kerberos and samaba (AD)  support on my workstation
[05:43] <kerozene> i.e. keeping things as static as possible without leaving gaping holes
[05:43] <spikeb> kerozene, no, backports is for newer versions of packages. bugfixes and security updates come normally.
[05:43] <eryn_1983> i think i backed out properly, but i am still havving issue with files dissappearing or not  being read by applications
[05:43] <kerozene> ok, thx
[05:43] <eryn_1983> for example my irc.conf is not being read by weechat-curses..
[05:43] <philipjfry> dbum! i installed gnome alsa mixer and slid master front up and audio came on.
[05:43] <eryn_1983> its there i can seee it as my user and it looks all fine and dandy
[05:44] <philipjfry> odd this isnt available on sound preferences?
[05:44] <dbum> philipjfry: Awesome!!
[05:44] <kerozene> spikeb: what about enabling universe on servers?
[05:44] <eryn_1983> i dont  got any  idea whats going on.
[05:44] <stiltzkin> seriously guys, this eSATA card is the last remaining piece of hardware I haven't been able to get working with Ubuntu and it's driving me nuts...halp greatly appreciated
[05:44] <Flannel> kerozene: What about universe are you curious about?
[05:44] <iDope> bastid_raZor: http://pastebin.org/238217
[05:44] <eryn_1983> i though its mught be a bad harddrive but then wouldnt it just fail and not  delete file i work on or  not find files or something?
[05:44] <spikeb> kerozene, maybe. i probably would, since it does get updates from the community.
[05:45] <kerozene> Flannel, whether it improves access to up-to-date packages with a reasonable assurance of security/stability testing
[05:45] <philipjfry> thanks dbum, #ubtuntu!
[05:45] <HowardTheDuck> hey
[05:45] <tripelb> this is horrible. My display resolution popped to 800x600 when the computer froze this time. It's a Dell 19" monitor and you'd think I was blind. Please what can I do? The resolution was much bigger (I checked it) before the freeze. I have the scrollback small in xchat but this (for instance) is huge.
[05:45] <HowardTheDuck> what's a good terminal alternate for LXTerminal in Lubuntu
[05:45] <slackster1> Hi, I have a problem.  I just upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04.  I just restarted.  GRUB loading.  -> error: the symbol 'grub_puts_' was not found'  -> grub rescue>  prompt..  Can someone help me with this?
[05:46] <stiltzkin> tripelb: classic problem. Go to a terminal (ctrl+alt+f1), log in, and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:46] <dbum> slackster1: I used this and it worked like a charm..... even if you haven't installed windoze.....     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:46] <iDope> bastid_raZor: http://pastebin.org/238217
[05:46] <Flannel> kerozene: There's certainly more packages.  They aren't any more "up-to-date" than the rest of the repository (get frozen just like the rest).  I'd say they're as stable, yes.  Security updates depend a lot on the package, and as an administrator if you're worried, you should look into that package before installing it.
[05:46] <iDope> oops
[05:46] <iDope> sorry
[05:46] <slackster1> dbum: thanks, I'll take a look..
[05:46] <kerozene> righto
[05:47] <kerozene> thanks everyone for your opinions and info :)
[05:47] <DrupalJim> How can i have my dbs backed up to my home personal computer. DO i have to have them backup to a dir on teh comp, and then rsync it to my desktop. or is thre an easier way
[05:47] <dbum> slackster1: it looks long but it should only take about 10 min.    you will be using Grub2 so you can skip most of it
[05:47] <slackster1> dbum: humm.. no live cd here..
[05:47] <DrupalJim> comp = server*
[05:47] <tripelb> stiltzkin, nothing changed.
[05:47] <slackster1> any other method.. I have command promt
[05:48] <stiltzkin> tripelb: you went through the whole configuration and nothing changed? restart your computer
[05:48] <dbum> slackster1: yeah... that's a bummer.... do you have the ISO and a thumb drive?
[05:48] <eryn_1983> no do idea at all besides  failing harddrive?
[05:48] <slackster1> dbum: nope, I'd have to download and it
[05:48] <slackster1> I'll see what I can do with grub rescue promt
[05:48] <tripelb> I did the command you said. then it went back to a prompt. I dont knwo what "going through the whole configuration" means. stiltzkin
[05:49] <stiltzkin> tripelb: it should have taken you through a menu-based configuration
[05:49] <tripelb> stiltzkin, I looked at Display and it had the same limits
[05:49] <tripelb> nope
[05:49] <dbum> slackster1: I don't know if there is a way to do it just from grub rescue> prompt.....  couldn't seem to get anything to work from there
[05:49] <stiltzkin> tripelb: sure you typed it correctly?
[05:49] <stiltzkin> tripelb: with the sudo
[05:49] <zcat[1]> I'd like to upgrade a partition from ext3 to ext4 .. don't really have room for a backup though (movies and shit, not hugely important but I'd rather not just throw them away) .. can this be done or is backup, reformat, restore the only option?
[05:50] <tripelb> I copied and pasted stiltzkin -- yes -- I gave my password. I'll do it again, perhaps mistyped.
[05:50] <spikeb> zcat[1], can be done
[05:50] <slackster1> dbum: ok thanks. I'll have to try to burn the live cd
[05:50] <stiltzkin> zcat[1]: it can be done but you won't get the performance benefits of ext4 from an existing ext3 system
[05:50] <dbum> slackster1: np
[05:50] <tripelb> stiltzkin, this time it didnt ask for my password so it must have been right.
[05:50] <zcat[1]> hmmmm... so probably won't bother until I get another big drive
[05:50] <tripelb> stiltzkin, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:50] <stiltzkin> tripelb: and what does it do? just goes back to the prompt?
[05:50] <tripelb> stiltzkin, right, back to the prompt
[05:51] <zcat[1]> stiltzkin:  so if I upgrade to 'ext4' it won't really be ext4?
[05:51] <stiltzkin> tripelb: that's not good...
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> zcat[1]:  not 'competely'
[05:52] <stiltzkin> zcat[1]: well technically it will be ext4, but upgrading is not the same as making a fresh filesystem. you won't really see the improvements
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> zcat[1]:  In your case you proberly dont even need ext4 - its proberly not going to be that noticable a preformance hit/gain.
[05:52] <stiltzkin> tripelb: try running sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:53] <stiltzkin> tripelb: and then the reconfigure command
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> sudo service gdm stop       <--- proberly a better command to rember.
[05:53] <stiltzkin> Dr_Willis: good point :)
[05:53] <spO> what is a good usenet client besides xnews?
[05:53] <DCGstudios> whats the difference really?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> spO:  ages ago i used 'pan'
[05:53] <spikeb> pan isn't too bad
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> DCGstudios:  differances in what?
[05:54] <DCGstudios> /etc/init.d/gdm stop    /  service gdm stop
[05:54] <dbum> DCGstudios: nothing
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> DCGstudios:  init is old sysv way that MAY still work.. but it may not in the near future
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> so its best to get in the 'service' habbit
[05:54] <stiltzkin> yeah nothing. service command is newer and easier to remember
[05:55] <DCGstudios> ah okay, just always done it that way wasnt aware it was being changerd.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> service command has some other neat options also
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> service command has been around for like the last 2 releases
[05:55] <DCGstudios> oh ok ill check out the man page
[05:55] <stiltzkin> Dr_Willis: and /etc/init.d has been around since the stone age
[05:55] <tripelb> stiltzkin, I looked in my notes and for the other monitor I did this (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) but I didnt change anything, just plugged in this other dell with the same resolution.
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> and init.d has been slowly getting trimmed out...  I dident even notice gdm being in init.d lately. (not looked recently)
[05:56] <stiltzkin> tripelb: so you're using a different monitor now?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis>  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2010-04-15 09:51 gdm -> /lib/init/upstart-job*
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Most init.d scripts seem to now be links to the upstart commands/files
[05:57] <DCGstudios> i guess it is more conivenent then dealing with a directory
[05:57] <dbum> wonder why  sudo service --status-all has so many question marks??
[05:57] <stiltzkin> Dr_Willis: wondering that myself lol
[05:58] <stiltzkin> I mean dbum: wondering that myself lol
[05:58] <dbum> stiltzkin:....haha
[05:58] <tripelb> stiltzkin: now I am in a terminal only mode. LOL I know irssi. what has been done?
[05:58] <DCGstudios> yea like 85%+ are question marks
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> tripelb:  i perfer weechat to irssi these days
[05:58] <spikeb> yup same here DCGstudios
[05:58] <stiltzkin> tripelb: now try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:59] <tripelb> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[05:59] <stiltzkin> tripelb: yep
[05:59] <SDonatas> Do I need Update-manager-Kde package in ubuntu using gnome? For some strange reason I have it installed.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> + => service thats running,  ? = Unknown status ? (perhaps a special service)
[05:59] <tripelb> oops stiltzkin I dont know how to go to a terminal from here.
[05:59] <DCGstudios> what is   -
[05:59] <DCGstudios> lol
[05:59] <stiltzkin> must mean "not running"
[05:59] <spikeb> probably not running
[06:00] <circuitman> cant install drivel in 9.04
[06:00] <dbum> Dr_Willis: I have services that I know are running that have a ?
[06:00] <slackster1> dbum: ok download.. werid thing.. grub rescue> ls (hd0)/   <- unkknow filesystem
[06:00] <slackster1> dbum: and with all disks
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> Sdonatas: not normally no, unless you installed kubuntu then ubuntu-desktop metapackage. Or you installed it drunk ;)
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  sysv services perhaps? or others it cant confifm the status
[06:00] <Dr_Willis>  sudo service --status-all | grep '-'
[06:00] <Dr_Willis>  Hmm that dont work how i wanted. :)
[06:01] <stiltzkin> So...no one's too good with making hardware work? I'm dyin to get this card recognized but I don't know what these dmesg errors are. Says ACPI_SDD failed (AE 0x300a)
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: tried disabling acpi in you kernel?
[06:01] <dbum> slackster1: like I said.... I couldn't get anything good out of grub rescue...... I tried at that for a while too!  seems like it should show something though
[06:01] <DCGstudios> drwillis i tryed greping it and it turned them all red
[06:01] <DCGstudios> but didnt filter them
[06:01] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: ...is that something I should do?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> DCGstudios:  yea. the color grep is working. :) but not filtering out..
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> sudo service --status-all | grep '\[ - \]'
[06:02] <slackster1> dbum: ah.. ok
[06:02] <circuitman> cant install drivel in 9.04
[06:02] <dbum> Dr_Willis: yeah I figured running sudo would let you see them all.....oh well......not the end of the world
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: if acpi is moaning then try turning it off with boot options, you can always re-enable
[06:02] <circuitman> help me
[06:02] <SDonatas> ActionParsnip: I use Ubuntu 10.04, but also basketnotepad which use KDE runtime, maybe its becouse of this application?
[06:02] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: a little wary of messing with my kernel. and don't I need acpi for lots of other stuff?
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> Sdonatas: maybe its a dep of one of its deps
[06:03] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: here, have a look at the full output here: http://pastebin.com/FdLdXi7E
[06:03] <greezmunkey> Dr_Willis: interestingly enough, asking for the status of a single service points you to: /etc/init.d/winbind {start|stop|restart|force-reload|status} !!
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> service --status-all runs all init scripts, in alphabetical order, with the status command.
[06:03] <tripelb> stiltzkin: xserver-org is not installed and when I tried to install it (apt-get install) it could not be found.
[06:03] <chetnick> anyone use conky? I lost my transparency, i just have black background.
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: its editting /etc/default/grub then running: sudo update-grub ,you don't actually touch the kernel
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> so its returning what the scripts are deciding to print/return
[06:03] <tripelb> This system is sooo "Not ready for prime time"
[06:04] <stiltzkin> chetnick: yeah I use conky. make sure "own_window_transparent yes" is in your .conkyrc
[06:04] <tripelb> I truely miss the simplicity of windows (kaching it costs though)
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> Sdonatas: try removing it in terminal and see what else the system threatens to remove too
[06:04] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: ...why does it involve grub?
[06:04] <greezmunkey> tripelb: wait around 5 months 10.10
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> You dont want to get me started on the HOURS i have wasted in windows trying to do some tasks....
[06:05] <zipper> hi i wanna know how to stop mozilla from crashing constantly
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: because grub loads the kernel. Grub also passes the options to the kernel
[06:05] <tripelb> greezmunkey the grass is always greener in the future.
[06:05] <chetnick> stiltzkin: http://pastebin.com/hqttNtPt it is set to yes. Can you paste to me  your .conkyrc if it is not to much to ask.
[06:05] <mateo> hi
[06:05] <tripelb> right now my computer freezes. and the print is really big. and now I have no gui.
[06:05] <DCGstudios> lol
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> I have some of my old conky rc's at http://drop.io/dr_willis
[06:05] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: and so how does it know to pass -no-acpi or whatever the command is just from me updating grub?
[06:05] <zipper> hi i wanna know how to stop mozilla from crashing constantly!@!@!@!@!?!?!?
[06:06] <greezmunkey> tripelb: sounds like a configuration problem :/
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: it currently gives "quiet splash" but you will need to add one for turning acpi off
[06:06] <chetnick> stiltzkin: such a weird thing, i havent touched configuration, it just started messing up.
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  clarify when it crashes perhaps?
[06:06] <DCGstudios> zipper, can you please be more specific with your problem
[06:06] <Random832> zipper: when is it crashing?
[06:06] <salil> How do you return an error from a bash script?
[06:06] <zipper> Dr_Willis: when i am viewing youtube it crashes after a few mins
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> we dont want to play 20 questions - to get to the real question. :)
[06:06] <Random832> i sometimes have problems with flash videos that i've traced back to some sort of deadlock with pulseaudio
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: most likely acpi=off but websearch to clarify
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> salil:   exit ##   (i think)
[06:06] <DCGstudios> zipper, only when running flash applications?
[06:06] <SDonatas> ActionParsnip: thanks, I will try to sort out this mess
[06:06] <zipper> DCGstudios: yea
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> stop using flash :)
[06:06] <stiltzkin> chetnick: sure, here ya go. mine is only a clock though: http://pastebin.com/dZ0EA3Hn
[06:07] <zipper> Dr_Willis: .... then how do i even watch videos
[06:07] <salil> Dr_Willis: yep worked..
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  youtube can do html5 on chrome/chromium
[06:07] <DCGstudios> zipper, have you tryed another broswer?
[06:07] <zipper> chrome has this flash crash too
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: I use an extra boot option to disable ipv6 here to stop it being used
[06:07] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: isn't there anything else I can try besides messing with boot options? I do not want to bork my install.
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> chrome can do html5. so tell youtube to do html5 when it can
[06:07] <zipper> DCGstudios : chrome has this crappy flash crash too!
[06:07] <cozby> why, why is this happening to me... I was just freaking out how good Ubuntu was, how far linux has come and then it lashed out and burned me
[06:08] <zipper> Dr_Willis: how do i do that?
[06:08] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: this card worked on 9.04 on an HP laptop before. Now I use 10.04 on a Sony VAIO and it doesn't work anymore.
[06:08] <cozby> I was able to connect to my wireless AP no problem
[06:08] <jensoko> happened to me, too cozby
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  check  the youtube.com/html5 page
[06:08] <cozby> then for no reason, I'm no longer able to connect
[06:08] <cozby> I even re-installed...
[06:08] <cozby> I'm back after a fresh install
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: its a text file so you won't bork anything. If its bad, boot to recovery root console and delete the option you added. Its not a massive change
[06:08] <jensoko> my bootable usb key worked with 9.10 once, now it hangs
[06:08] <cozby> like... wtf.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> cozby:  we  dont even rember what your original problem is/was.
[06:09] <sleepy_cat> can i get the version of Ktron game in Hardy for My Koala
[06:09] <ryanrk> anybody know anything about mod_rewrite ?
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin; sure but 9.04 uses a different kernel to 10.04 doesn't it. That's why
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: i'd log a bug too
[06:09] <cozby> Dr_Willis, I wasn't able to connect to my wireless AP, I was right after I installed, then I did a system upgrade
[06:09] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: I have a very particular setup though. Encrypted LVM partitions, etc. If I somehow lose the capability to boot I'll lose all my data
[06:09] <cozby> and after that I was no longer able to connect.
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> stiltzkin:  sounds like a good reason to have some backups done reall soon.
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: lvm is nothing to do with acpi at all
[06:09] <cozby> now I'm on some dudes open AP
[06:09] <DCGstudios> zipper, okay then its likley your flash not the browser, run 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall adobe-flashplugin'
[06:10] <cozby> fuck
[06:10] <dbum> Dr_Willis: was going to look @ your conky configs and firefox is telling me the page isn't redirecting properly.... I don't really need them or anything.... just letting you know
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  tell drop.io not me. :)
[06:10] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: true. I tried to find out what module this takes but there's very little information on it
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin; at worst you can boot to livecd and mount it there. Its just one text file it not like you are overhauling anything
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  its working here. --> http://drop.io/dr_willis
[06:10] <dbum> Dr_Willis: I'll send them a snail mail.... just to make sure they get it!!!! ha
[06:10] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: ok. and what's the text file I'm editing again? lol
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzking /etc/default/grub
[06:11] <zipper> DCGstudios: Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package adobe-flashplugin has no installation candidate
[06:11] <jensoko> Installed 9.10 okay to my thinkpad x100e, then upgraded to 10.04. Experienced hang after login, but now my bootable usb key can't boot me into 9.10 to re-install 9.10. Can someone tell me if the bootable usb has some junk from the failed boot I need to delete? Thanks in advance
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: webseach to clarify the option online
[06:11] <DCGstudios> zipper, run 'sudo apt-get update'
[06:11] <DCGstudios> zipper, then try again
[06:12] <zipper> DCGstudios: Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package adobe-flashplugin has no installation candidate
[06:12] <sleepy_cat> can i get the version of Ktron game in Hardy for My Koala
[06:12] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: is it even possible that this will work without acpi though? I mean acpi had to have been enabled on my old computer when it worked
[06:12] <elky> DCGstudios, are you sure that's the right packagename you're suggesting?
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> Jensoko: if you login as another user is it ok?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> sleepy_cat:  proberly not very easially.
[06:12] <DCGstudios> zipper, elky, lol at least on my repos. what are you running right now zipper?
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: the error you have relates to it and its a free and simple thing to test
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> sleepy_cat:  theres no ktron in koala? or somthing special about the old one?
[06:12] <dbum> Dr_Willis: same thing for me..... this time I clicked more then download and got the same thing
[06:12] <zipper> DCGstudios: i am running mozilla
[06:13] <elky> DCGstudios i'm still on karmic and i have flashplugin-nonfree
[06:13] <dbum> Dr_Willis: Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete
[06:13] <sleepy_cat> Dr_Willis, there is Ktron in Koala but the Ktron in hardy is much much better
[06:13] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: okay. Well according to Google i'd add "pci=noacpi" to the end of my boot command in /boot/grub/menu.lst. But 10.04 uses Grub 2, which I have no idea how to edit. Doesn't use the menu file anymore
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: boot options exist to make the kernel work on more systems so you can turn off troublesome parts without recompile
[06:13] <DCGstudios> thanks elky,  what version of ubuntu zipper
[06:13] <jensoko> ActionParsnip there are no other users created, and the usb drive itself can't get to the login screen. It hangs at "dbus process (somenumber) terminated at status 1" and "starting init crypto disks"
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  odd.. using Firefox here.
[06:13] <zipper> 10.something lucid
[06:14] <Terabyte> where can i get a live usb of ubuntu?
[06:14] <dbum> Dr_Willis: I'll try from proxy and see
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Terabyte:  dowload iso file, use unetbootin or similer tool and make one
[06:14] <DCGstudios> zipper, try this. 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer'
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: fine. The file is /etc/default/grub . You add them there.
[06:14] <jensoko> Terabyte: you have to make one. Download your preferred iso and use usb-creator
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: wow this is REAL handholding now: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[06:14] <Terabyte> jensoko should i do this from within an ubuntu environment or from windows?
[06:15] <zipper> DCGstudios: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[06:15] <Terabyte> i don't have one installed, could i do it from a live cd env?
[06:15] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: hahahaha I know how to edit a file :P
[06:15] <jensoko> Terabyte: directions here http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-kubuntu-810-install-via-usb-creator/
[06:15] <hoonteke> what's the trick to make gnome menu items editable by just putting my mouse over then then typing something?  I can't seem to track that down via google?
[06:15] <zipper> DCGstudios: eading state information... Done flashplugin-installer is already the newest version. The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   linux-headers-2.6.32-21 linux-headers-2.6.32-21-generic Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded.
[06:15] <Terabyte> thanks
[06:15] <jensoko> Terabyte there are directions to do it from Windows, too
[06:15] <DCGstudios> zipper,  'sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer'
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> Stitzkin: find the line with "splash quiet" and change it to "splash quiet pci=noacpi"
[06:15] <Terabyte> brilliant: http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/kubuntu/8.10/kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[06:15] <Terabyte> broken, typical
[06:15] <DCGstudios> zipper, then try it out and see if it crashes
[06:15] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: am I adding the line to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX?
[06:15] <jensoko> Terabyte: 8.10 is an old release
[06:16] <Terabyte> ok i'll find the latest then
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: save the file, close gedit then run: sudo update-grub ,then reboot
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  i recall adding a line to some .gtkrc file or similer.  the rox-filer file manager supports that also. I always  check its help/info to rember the file. :) let me double check
[06:16] <jensoko> Terabyte: go to www.ubuntu.com or kubuntu.org
[06:16] <Terabyte> ok thanks
[06:16] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: there's not GUI option anywhere?  that's ... frustrating.  not so much for me, but for people like my aging parents.
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: I have just given you precise to the highest degree. Read my messages aimed at you
[06:16] <hoonteke> sigh.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  adding this line to ~/.gtkrc-2.0:
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> gtk-can-change-accels = 1
[06:16] <jensoko> Terabyte: have fun with it! :)
[06:17] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: muchas gracias
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  most people dont want to be changing the things anyway. We had a guy n here the other day that accidently changed F1 to be 'q'
[06:17] <dbum> Dr_Willis: yeah... that's a no go for me..... even through a proxy..... no sweat though.... I was just curios what pimptastic conkiness you had
[06:17] <hoonteke> heh
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  not much really :) just some things i worked on.. and no longer use.
[06:17] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: is there another place to set that?
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Hoonteke: there are still features without guis. If you don't use gui so much you will learn how the system works a little
[06:18] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: sorry for not understanding right away...could have just said LINUX_DEFAULT...sheesh :/
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  from the rox-filer docs -> 1) using an XSettings manager, such as ROX-Session or gnome-settings-daemon, or
[06:18] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: one the computer where that functionality works, I don't have that file.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  so other then that - no idea.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke: mist be somthing with gnome-settings-deamon then
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: I'm on a phone on the way to work so I can't verify
[06:18] <hoonteke> ActionParsnip: I know.  It's when I use the GUI as for my folks, that's when I have questions.  ;-)
[06:18] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: it's all good
[06:18] <hoonteke> I'm a CLI man.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> User-definable shortcuts are disabled by default in Gtk2,
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> stiltzkin: that's why I described the line so exactly instead
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> Hoonteke: could make scripts for them
[06:19] <Guest41429> Why is it that when I sometime enter  command in the terminal, the next line won't have my username and won't accept any more commands?
[06:19] <Guest41429> sometimes
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  --> You need to set the gconf entry : desktop / gnome / interface /
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> can_change_accels .
[06:19] <hoonteke> ActionParsnip: no, not really an option.  I need to set this bit for them personally.  It's just a hassle, that's all.
[06:19] <DCGstudios> did you end it with \  ?
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: I described it so you would find the line based on my description as there is only one line like that. Simple
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  google is handy toda for me :)
[06:20] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: just trying to make sure I edit the right line. this is an important system
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  reading at ---> http://forum.soft32.com/linux2/Changing-shortcuts-ftopict279239.html
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> Hoonteke: gotcha
[06:20] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: :-)  Trust me, I did my homework, just not successfully.  Some days I have better google-fu than others.  Today, you are my savior.  thank you.
[06:20] <jensoko> ActionParsnip: My bootable usb can get to the Language menu and the initial menu. If I select the first menu item that lets me run kubuntu from the usb disk, it hangs at this "starting init crypto disks" line - I can't get to the login screen to reinstall 9.10
[06:20] <Guest41429> DCGstudios no?
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: I couldn't see where you could go wrong but you are on the way. I gotta jet
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  about the only apps i use the feature in is gimp and rox-filer
[06:21] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help! see ya
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> Jensoko; do you use encryptfs?
[06:21] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: for me, it's getting rid of the damn default F1 = Gnome help.  Especially on Thinkpads, where the Esc key is not in the right place
[06:21] <jensoko> ActionParsnip: I didn't to my knowledge
[06:21] <hoonteke> so I hit escape three times, and 10 seconds later, 3 "helpful" windows pop up.  really damned annoying.
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> heh - and no one ever tries F1 to actually read the docs.... they always hit it by accident...
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: that's why I was saying its easy. If the system is critical you sshould have it ALL backed up
[06:22] <ogen> hi back in gui. stiltzkin 19" monitor. Changed to it earlier to watch a movie. then system froze. On reboot resolution set lower (thus big text) and no higher resolution available. -- so xserver-org was not installed and when I tried could not be found. Synaptic doesnt show it but does show xserver-org-dev and a host of xserver-org-video...
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> Jensoko: ok then not sure. I gotta shoot
[06:22] <jensoko> ActionParsnip: I booted & installed 9.10 successfully, then upgraded to 10.04, but the upgrade wouldn't restart. I'm just trying to recover to 9.10 or reinstall 9.10, and the usb no longer seems to be able to boot. Thnanks anywya
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: no backup == data is not important to you
[06:22] <AussieBushRoo> register johndoeblow tim.j.matt@gmail.com
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: drives fail. Data corrupts
[06:23] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: I never said I didn't have backups
[06:23] <Alth_> forgot the / AussieBushRoo
[06:24] <somesh> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/X0Tkq6n8
[06:24] <somesh> cpan -i is not working
[06:25] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: yeah, the help tool ... is a good idea, but it's not well implemented, or very useful, as far as I can tell.  It suffers from the same thing that Wikipedia does: when explaining a concept, it links to unrelated articles.  Like an article that references alternative rock, linking to "alternative" and "rock".  The gnome help does that as well.
[06:25] <stiltzkin> restarting to try new grub cfg, brb
[06:25] <dbum> somesh: did you ./configure   ?
[06:25] <AussieBushRoo> register johndoeblow tim.j.matt@gmail.com
[06:26] <ogen> well I might just go to sleep since my helper had to quit
[06:26] <ogen> AussieBushRoo can you hear me? you have to start the line with a SLASH
[06:26] <ogen> aussiebushroo this is a slash /
[06:26] <Alth_> anyone want to answer my question?
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> Ogen: that's a switch
[06:27] <DCGstudios> whats your question?
[06:27] <ogen> Alth_ you have to ask it before we know.
[06:27] <Alth_> If I do "grep -r something /somewhere" for example then I can't enter commands after the results
[06:27] <Darchilde> Hi
[06:27] <Alth_> my name/machine doesnt show
[06:27] <ogen> ActionParsnip, hes doing a register and forgot the leading slash
[06:27] <ogen> its a token that tells irc it's a command
[06:28] <ogen> isnt it?
[06:28] <douglas> im havving troubble mounting my sd card
[06:28] <Alth_> I can enter things but, they'll only be printed, and won't have any effect
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Alth_: yes because the grep works in the foreground. Open a new terminal or use screen
[06:28] <ogen> anyway, good night dear ones.
[06:28] <Alth_> thanks ActionParsnip
[06:28] <DCGstudios> Alth_ what are you trying to figure out? thats not really the correct syntax for a grep command
[06:28] <Alth_> It was just an example
[06:28] <douglas> its not being discovered, my sd card
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Ogen: yes but the character is a switch as it switches to command mode ;)
[06:28] <Alth_> That's all I needed to knwo thankyou
[06:29] <Alth_> know*
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> Alth_: if you put an ampersand on the end it will be backgrounded
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> Alth_: so grep -r something /somewhere > $HOME/out.txt &
[06:30] <Viking667> Anyone played the new "offering" from steam?
[06:30] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis, ActionParsnip: time for a harder question: is there any known trick to getting headphones to work when they don't?  On one machine they just work: headphones in = main speaker off, and headphones receive sound instead.  On another machine, plug in headphones and main speaker turns off, but no sound comes from the earphones.  (Both are runnig the exact same setup, but the hardware is different.)
[06:30] <douglas> excuse me, i cant see my sd card when i plug it in
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> Alth_: will run the command and the prompt will tell you when the command finishes and you can read the file with less, freeing up the terminal :)
[06:30] <Alth_> Thanks again.
[06:31] <douglas> :(
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  i see similer questions to that asked in here all the time. nevers een a 'defacto' answer.  You may want to check the forums.
[06:31] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: back. Booted fine with acpi=off, but now I get absolutely nothing when I plug in the card. No dmesg output at all
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Hoonteke: I'm useless with sound issues. Sound has never been a problem here
[06:31] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: heh, been there _all_ night.  oh well.  was worth a try.  thanks.
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  it may be very much chipset dependant
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: ok then undo what you did. Simple huh
[06:31] <douglas> help?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  the jackd service might help with it also
[06:32] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: sure I guess. any idea what the actual problem is though?
[06:32] <douglas> i cant see my sd card when i plug it in
[06:32] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: oh, it definitely is.  We had Daniel Chen come talk to our LUG about all the sound issues in Linux about 6 months ago.  That's /exactly/ the issue: non-standard hardware interactions.
[06:32] <douglas> how can i fix this?
[06:32] <ogen> ActionParsnip, thanks for the words. I need to find a thing to read to learn more with clarity.
[06:32] <douglas> lol
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: if I knew that i'd give the exact answer rather than stuff to try
[06:32] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: gotcha :)
[06:32] <jacomo83> hi, how can I know temperature of my cpu and video card? thanks
[06:33] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: anything else I can try? I've got no leads
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  sound card makers deciding to have ports that can change  what they do on the fly.. dosent help a lot either :)
[06:33] <greezmunkey> douglas: you can look through this, it may help: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-to-mount-sd-card-on-ubuntu-536646/
[06:33] <hoonteke> groan, agreed, Dr_Willis.
[06:33] <hoonteke> alright, thanks for the help
[06:33] <hoonteke> it's time for bed for me
[06:33] <hoonteke> g'night
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: try running: lspci ,some ricoh card readers need certain modules to be loaded. Maybe your system isn't loading one needed
[06:33] <FloodBot1> hoonteke: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:33] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: ActionParsnip: nothing ever shows up in lspci, lshw, etc
[06:33] <hoonteke> Hah, thanks FloodBot1
[06:33] <stiltzkin> stiltzkin: that's how come I can't determine which module it requires
[06:34] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: that's how come I can't determine which module it requires
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: does the reader present itself in the dmesg output
[06:34] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: not with acpi off
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: ok then use the dmesg output identifying the reader in dmesg when acpi is on to find guides
[06:35] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: that was the pastebin I gave you. I looked up all of those errors, none of them are specific to this card
[06:35] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: i.e. I got lots of pages referring to sound cards, hard drives, webcams, various other hardware that produces the same errors
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> Douglas: does the partition show in the output of: sudo fdisk -l ?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: my connection is dog slow. Loading any page takes ages so I can't read it
[06:36] <panzer> I just mounted a new drive to my 10.04 install.  I have the icon showing up on the desktop.  How can I get rid of it?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: read the output and find lines to throw at bing/jeeves/google/whatever
[06:37] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: that's okay. maybe someone else can help?
[06:37] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: that's what I've been doing...haven't got anywhere
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> Panzer: you mount partitions, not drives. There is a setting in gconf someplace. Possibly relating to nautilus as it draws the icons
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> Panzer: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/hide-removable-drive-icons-from-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> Panzer: hope that helps howtogeek is usually good but I didn't check the content
[06:40] <MindVirus> My uptime hovers at around 1.0 -- even when idle.
[06:40] <MindVirus> Why?
[06:40] <MindVirus> I mean load average.
[06:40] <stiltzkin> can anyone else help me with this eSATA card? I'm pretty stuck
[06:40] <cocontmi> hi all.. any recommended video editors?
[06:40] <MindVirus> cocontmi: Pitivi.
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> !videoedit
[06:40] <stiltzkin> cocontmi: and Avidemux
[06:41] <cocontmi> thnks! MindVirus... am installing now.. is it buggy.. i had kdenlive once.. good but buggy
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Cocontmi: kino too
[06:41] <MindVirus> cocontmi: I don't know but I don't think so.
[06:41] <MindVirus> cocontmi: It comes with Ubuntu standard so it must be stable.
[06:41] <cocontmi> well. thanks all. i will try those.
[06:41] <slackster1> dbum: I'm getting different output with "mount | tail -1" than show on that page
[06:42] <slackster1> can someone help me to restore grub
[06:42] <slackster1> ?
[06:42] <cocontmi> wow.. MindVirus.. pitivi is new; can't believe it comes w/ubuntu now.
[06:42] <cocontmi> cool
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> Slackster1: boot to livecd. The ubuntu grub2 doc will guide from there
[06:42] <cocontmi> still have jaunty now
[06:42] <dbum> slackster1 did you make sure you clicked your drive in the Places menu.....(mount the drive)
[06:42] <slackster1> ActionParsnip: ok.. booted.. let me find the doc
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | slackser1
[06:44] <slackster1> dbum: that would be the problem...
[06:44] <dbum> slackster1: I did the same thing..... followed by a bunch of potty mouth
[06:44] <slackster1> lol
[06:46] <stiltzkin> guys, this is the card I'm trying to get to work: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-AKE-ExpressCard-Express-SATA-eSATA-Card-BC338-/350296717129?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item518f4fb749
[06:47] <Viking667> heh. Might look up that Grub2 - I have to tweak something on a brand-new install of Xubuntu.
[06:47] <jayphill89> is there a name for the "hardware drivers" application so that other distros can use it
[06:47] <slackster1> dbum: am I sure I want to install to sda?
[06:48] <magn3ts> Jordan_U, you around?
[06:48] <slackster1> sda1 is my windows drive
[06:48] <dbum> if that is your partition with mbr.  i would follow the directions to make sure
[06:49] <slackster1> looks like sdc is the linux one
[06:49] <klli_14> Why K3B does not use RAM from system ? From the best burners on Windows is Nero which use about 400 MB from system(when starts to burn). It use something like buffer ? This is something bad or good ?
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: did you check compatibility before purchase?
[06:49] <olskolirc> what is a good firewall for ubuntu where we can see the ip address of the intruder a good read out please?
[06:49] <dbum> i think there is a way to check on that page
[06:49] <slackster1> ok
[06:49] <hornets> happosade: I did the script!
[06:49] <hornets> it worked like a charm lol
[06:49] <hornets> it could be improved.. but anyway
[06:50] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: I did. The driver CD was supposed to include Linux drivers
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Klli_14: have you enabled a buffer in the burn options?
[06:50] <klli_14> ActionParsnip: no ? it is important ?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: have you checked the manufacturers site for drivers too?
[06:50] <enav> i need a little orientation  this article http://is.gd/c9lXs  have several times this "chroot()"   what is that is a function???
[06:50] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: I'm actually looking at the driver CD right now. It's very confusing though, because it includes drivers for 5 or 6 other devices
[06:50] <blankthemuffin> I'm wondering how to add to the system's path globally, like including when using sudo.
[06:51] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: I don't think AKE has a website. It's an obscure Chinese manufacturer. I'll check though
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> Klli_14: makes life smoother. Its like cache on a harddrive
[06:51] <klli_14> ActionParsnip: ok now im buring a dvd. after that i will look for it. thanks!
[06:52] <livingdaylight> i need to install ssh from synaptic in order to make two ubuntu computers speak over a network?
[06:52] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: actually they do have a website: http://www.ake-electronics.com/sdp/1066296/4/pl-5151972/0/Product_Catalog.html but the card is not in their product catalog
[06:52] <enav> livingdaylight what do you want to do specifically
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Blankthemuffin: export PATH=$PATH:/folder/to/add
[06:53] <livingdaylight> enav, I want to transfer some files from Desktop to laptop
[06:53] <ogen> I've had to reboot 3 times tonight because the computer freezes. (Ubuntu 9.10 AMD)
[06:53] <piju> ogen, freeze ?
[06:53] <enav> livingdaylight  there is several ways to do that
[06:53] <blankthemuffin> Yeah that doesn't really work for what I want ActionParsnip
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: have you checked the cd?
[06:54] <livingdaylight> enav, instead of using a usb flash drive to physically move files I thought I should be able to do so directly over the network
[06:54] <enav> livingdaylight  you can do it normally using samba protocol to share folder over your network
[06:54] <blankthemuffin> I want it persistent and fully global. ie I want to affect the path for all users, root via sudo included.
[06:54] <livingdaylight> enav, samba or ssh I heard. For Ubuntu I heard ssh is better?
[06:54] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: yes. contains a .exe, a .sys, and a .pdr file. No instructions. The chipset is the name of the file folder though - JMicron JM20337
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> Blankthemuffin: you wanted to "add to the system's path globally" that's how you add to $PATH
[06:54] <enav> livingdaylight  if you samba is like windows sharing
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: find guides for that chip then.
[06:55] <slackster1> dbum: found the problem.. Grub was installed on my windows drive before.. when upgrading.. I specified the linux drive.. and just now did the same thing... got the same error now..but changed boot disk priority, and all is well.  :)  Thanks
[06:55] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: I have. Still gets me nowhere. I'm still reading though
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Blankthemuffin: I see. I believe its /etc/profile
[06:56] <slackster1> dbum: looks like that's all I would have had to do in the first place.. lol
[06:56] <blankthemuffin> yes but you're not understanding the rest of my question ActionParsnip. running export xxx only affects the current terminal instance, and putting it in bash.rc does not effect the environment when using sudo
[06:56] <enav> livingdaylight sorry i repeat:   samba is like windows sharing service to share folders and printer
[06:56] <dbum> slackster1: sounds about right..... glad to help..... if you call it that....
[06:56] <livingdaylight> enav, but I'm sharing two Ubuntu machines
[06:57] <livingdaylight> my question is: do I need to install ssh or is it already part of the system by default
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Blankthemuffin: if you add it in .bashrc it will be in every terminal for that user and should be used with sudo. Unless you are using: sudo -i
[06:57] <enav> livingdaylight  SSH is a especial service to connect 2 computer securely over an encrypted connection
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Blankthemuffin: let me hunt a little
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. normal 'sudo whatever' does not seem to use my default users path.
[06:57] <blankthemuffin> it's the other way around, it won't affect it unless you use sudo -i
[06:57] <timClicks> have there been any critical bugs upgrading 9.10 > 10.04?
[06:57] <enav> livingdaylight you perfectly can move files to other computers using SSH
[06:58] <Zorge> critical, hmm, more just annoying bugs for me
[06:58] <enav> livingdaylight  tell em what do you want Samba or SSH???
[06:58] <Zorge> like my eee PC's monitor on/off button doesn't work in 10.04 but worked in 9.10
[06:58] <livingdaylight> enav, I dont care... I thought ssh is all I needed. You want me to use samba? you keep talking about it. I just keep asking whether I need to install ssh to make it possible
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> Blankthemuffin: yeah global path is in /etc/profile
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> I recall ages ago tweaking the root/.bashrc and  a few other files to get it to use the same as my users path/ and users /home/bubba/bin
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> but i was wanting root to beable to use  my custome scripts in /home/willis/bin  So thats a little different then  the system path
[06:59] <enav> livingdaylight ok ssh client is by default on desktop edition server need to be installes
[06:59] <slackster1> dbum: you lead me down the path to find out. :)
[06:59] <slackster1> thanks
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> Blankthemuffin: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-969.html
[06:59] <dbum> Zorge: How does 10.04 run on the eee? you using netbook remix?
[07:00] <klli_14> I was writing a dvd with K3B on gnome Ubuntu 10.04. I close the K3B it ask about "removed sound devces" .What i have to answer for it ?
[07:00] <hmw> blankthemuffin: ActionParsnip: i just issued     grep -r PATH= /etc/* | grep -v "Binary file"    to find the location. I am not sure, where it gets set initially, but what about /etc/login.defs - methings ENV_PATH there is the thing for global? If not, why?
[07:00] <Voziv> Hello, I'm getting an odd error compiling... about languages.... is there a way to specify languages  like en_us when using cmake
[07:00] <livingdaylight> can someone explain difference between file sharing using Samba or SSH ?
[07:00] <enav> livingdaylight i recomend you to use filezilla to manage your files
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  ssh has a great many features. file transfering is one of them.
[07:00] <dbum> slackster1: where were you when I was going through that crap?? ha .... well now @ least I have a upgraded Live coaster!
[07:01] <livingdaylight> enav, who is filezilla?
[07:01] <enav> livingdaylight  SSH is an encrypted connection  Samba is a sharing folder protocol
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> Timclicks: pretty much identical here as I use old school methods which I know work rather than all this automagic rubbish :)
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  you can use ssh and winscp to get files back/forth from a linux box  to a windows box.
[07:01] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis, I see. At the moment I have two Ubuntu machines but its useful to know
[07:01] <Viking667> hah. I had to download my live CD, get it onto a USB stick, put vmlinuz and initrd from it into a tftpboot directory, shove the USB stick into a slot onto the target machine, and make the machine boot up over PXE.
[07:02] <Viking667> The install worked, finally.
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  you may want to use sshfs, or learn about 'scp' then
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  ssh is worth learning.
[07:02] <enav> livingdaylight filezilla is a little program that will help you to copy and move files using a SSh connection
[07:02] <Viking667> ... and now the machine in question is playing host to a Cafe World.
[07:02] <Voziv> Can you even specify languages for cmake? o.O
[07:02] <klli_14> I was writing a dvd with K3B on gnome Ubuntu 10.04. I close the K3B it ask about "removed sound devces" .What i have to answer for it ?
[07:02] <livingdaylight> enav, in synaptic?
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: awesome :)
[07:02] <enav> livingdaylight  yes for sure
[07:02] <enav> livingdaylight synptic or software centre
[07:02] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis, where do I learn about scp?
[07:03]  * Viking667 nods
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  theres books written on ssh and its related tools like scp.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> !ssh
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> !scp
[07:03] <hmw> !man | livingdaylight
[07:03] <blankthemuffin> /etc/environment is actually where it should be played with I believe ActionParsnip
[07:03] <livingdaylight> enav, filezila is better than working from Places>Networking and doing it that way?
[07:03] <hmw> livingdaylight: man scp in your case
[07:03] <Viking667> Oh. Something weird - openssh-server wasn't installed from the get-go, neither was vim or ncftp3
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  scp is designed to work almost like the cp command. only over a network :)
[07:04]  * ActionParsnip still thinks the command "man woman" is funny
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  scp foo  willis@server:/home/willis/theplace
[07:04] <Viking667> Dr_Willis: don't forget the "Without being spied on" bit.
[07:04] <enav> livingdaylight is somthing like that  but is an especial way to connect to anoter computer
[07:04] <klli_14> I was writing a dvd with K3B on gnome Ubuntu 10.04. I close the K3B it ask about "removed sound devces" .What i have to answer for it ?
[07:04] <livingdaylight> so many ways to do the same thing: its confusing
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> klli_14:  answer no and see what happens? ive never noticed it asking that here.
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: openssh-server is optional so won't be installed on desktop systems. Few services = more security
[07:05] <enav> livingdaylight samba use nautilus to manage your files between computer....
[07:05] <Viking667> mmm. same idea (in principle) as OpenBSD
[07:05] <klli_14> Dr_Willis: why it asking now about sound devices. i dont change anything about my sound devices now ?
[07:06] <klli_14> Dr_Willis: i think the system is damaged ?!
[07:06] <Viking667> What puzzled me more was the lack of vim. I had vi, of course...
[07:06] <enav> livingdaylight but Filezilla or FTP manager  help you to See and manage files over a SSH connection
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> Klli_14: did you burn an audio cd?
[07:06] <jbuncher> can anyone help me with fixing the plymouth screen on boot in lucid for an nvidia card when the system is running grub 1?  All of the stuff I have found only include instructions for grub 2.
[07:06] <hmw> Lol ActionParsnip
[07:07] <Zorge> dbum: 10.04 has been running fine, I'm quite enjoying the restart times (running an SSD, maybe a bit overkill but meh).  Been experiencing less problems than I had with 9.10, only, still get random software closing on me such as xchat and empathy chat (either specific contacts or entire program)
[07:07] <hmw> (man woman)
[07:07] <klli_14> ActionParsnip: no but data dvd.
[07:07] <livingdaylight> enav, in past i remember using ssh and navigating using nautilus also?
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Hmw: its immature but still good
[07:07] <livingdaylight> enav, I have installed Filezilla, now what?
[07:07] <klli_14> ActionParsnip: even i open a music when i burn...
[07:07] <hmw> omg i am to old to lol at this, but i did
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> klli_14:  or you are worrining about nothing..
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Jbuncher: do you get a black screen at boot
[07:07] <enav> livingdaylight maybe is possible  but i didn't  try it before
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Klli_14: seems its part of the software and are temporary
[07:08] <dbum> Zorge: so I'm guessing no netbook remix then huh?   I'm using 9.10 netbook remix and it sux..... to hard to navigate around.....I'm used to having a desktop
[07:08] <jbuncher> ActionParsnip, yes, so I'm pretty sure i can fix that by using the "framebuffer" fix, I just need to know how to fix the resolution via grub 1
[07:08] <enav> livingdaylight open a private chat box if you want to talk about this
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  its all a matter of what you are used to.
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  my wife finds the netbook interface easier
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Jbuncher: I have a fix. Gimme a sec
[07:08] <klli_14> ActionParsnip & Dr_Willis: : ok thank  you so much!
[07:08] <stiltzkin> Alright, I'll ask another question...does anyone here have an eSATA ExpressCard that works in Linux? I'd be willing to buy a new one
[07:08] <jbuncher> ActionParsnip,
[07:08] <dbum> Zorge: I don't use my eee that much anyway.... that's just for toilet nerding
[07:09] <jbuncher> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[07:09] <Zorge> dbum: it is the netbook remix, the 10.04 netbook remix is much like 9.10, only a few fixes in the home applet
[07:09] <costre> stiltzkin, I run a 4disk raid array through a esata controller
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Jbuncher: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
[07:09] <stiltzkin> costre: expresscard?
[07:10] <costre> stiltzkin, I dont know what an expresscard is
[07:10] <stiltzkin> costre: yeah then that's not what I need...thanks anyway :/
[07:10] <panzer> ActionParsnip: thanks I am just getting back but will be looking at that.
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Jbuncher: basically makes the boot use vesafb driver which will work on any video chip. The nvidia driver will load later
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Panzer: works here. Made my sunrise show ;)
[07:10] <dbum> Zorge: I found easypeasy ran faster and I could program all the buttons.... but I hate waiting for them to update sometimes.... I'll try it out.... someday
[07:11] <costre> stiltzkin, kinda like PCMCIA v2.0? :)
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Dbum: fluxbox has awesome hotkey support
[07:11] <panzer> ActionParsnip: and here too.  Big thanks
[07:12] <stiltzkin> costre: exactly. the successor to PCMCIA
[07:12] <robertzaccour> is there a way to get frostwire to work?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Panzer: I'm going to suggest it be default so nobody has an issue again, makes sense
[07:12] <jbuncher> ActionParsnip, ok, I had come across those, but it looked like some of those instructions depended on grub2 (the /etc/default/grub stuff) rather than grub 1
[07:12] <Zorge> oh I get speaker crackling when the system is starting up for some reason in 10.04 as well, didn't happen with 9.10
[07:12] <robertzaccour> it says i don't have a certain version of java installed, and that recent of a java version isn't in the repos
[07:12] <Zorge> sounds like electrical crackling, quite scary infact
[07:12] <dbum> ActionParsnip: Cool... I'll give that one a whirl too!  I got my n52 gamepad working with linux so I got more "hotkeys" than you can shake a stick @
[07:13] <hmw> Zorge: that's happening on my computers too, if your sound is OK generally, I wouldn't mind it too much
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Jbuncher: not sure on grub. the instructions can be translated for grub
[07:13] <hmw> Zorge: i disabled the login sound.
[07:13] <stiltzkin> as pitiful as it is, I'm going to see if I can get this to work in Windows 7 with the CD driver. That way I'll know the card still works. Not much use to me on a daily basis though :/
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> Zorge:  Just at startup?
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Jbuncher: i'd jump to grub2 for an easier life with support
[07:13] <Zorge> Just start up yes, during splash screen.  Sound once the OS is up and running is fine
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  see what java you do have installed? 'java --version'
[07:14] <Zorge> if theres supposed to be an ubuntu chime like 9.10 had, I get crackles instead
[07:14] <Zorge> lets have a look
[07:15] <Zorge> the sound theme is on no sound, so I'm not sure about that
[07:15] <ynk> good evening, guys.. depending on where you are.
[07:15] <dbum> I changed my chimes to pineapple express sound clips.... a lot more humorus
[07:15] <robertzaccour> Dr_Willis, should i have openjdk or icedtea?
[07:15] <hmw> !hi | ynk
[07:16] <hmw> hey, who gave Ubottu coffee? It's so responsive all the sudden! *smile*
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  no idea really. The offical SUN java is in the partnerts repo. If you have java installed its proberly the other one.
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> !java
[07:16] <ynk> !flash
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  some apps require the sun java.
[07:17] <CogitoErgoSam> yeah, sun has some libs that are released open source, some that aren't
[07:17] <Zorge> so the crackling is a common current issue for 10.04 users then, thats a relief
[07:17] <ynk> is there a future for gnu/linux and flash? i'm a beginner in the nix world, and it's quite frustrating that i have to stay away from flash sites...
[07:17] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  The current implementations are pretty good
[07:17] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  They're certainly not ideal but they seem to work most of the time for me at least
[07:19] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: i'm running Karmic on a 64-bit laptop with more than enough ram to spare -- try Movado.com and tell me if you're able to even navigate the site.
[07:19] <ynk> it's a watch selling company.
[07:19] <costre> ynk, Youtube works smoother on my linux machine than on my windiows7 system
[07:20] <robscomputer> Youtube works for me but the stop/stop when embedded doesn't work.
[07:20] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  As a matter of fact it works on both computers here, both my 6 year old laptop and my 64bit desktop
[07:20] <dbum> ynk, it seems like a lot of people have been having problems with 64-bit version with 10.04   I'm using 32 bit and haven't had any probs
[07:20] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  Seems to work fine, although its a little cpu heavy on my old centrino laptop
[07:21] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam, costre, dbum: i presume the problem could just be on my end; i'm using Chrome.
[07:21] <costre> ynk, I never use the 64 bit versions although I have a 64-bit system
[07:21] <slackster1> dbum: lol.. I too now have a 10.04 coster :)
[07:21] <tertl3> music-theory
[07:22] <costre> ynk, Also, movado.com works good here. Looks like a strip club of sorts
[07:22] <slackster1> dbum: I take it your problem was slightly different though
[07:22] <ynk> costre: they make exceptional watches -- and now jewelries.
[07:22] <ynk> *jewelry
[07:23] <Moral_> I'm having some trouble with ifconfig. Logs are as followed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/433708/
[07:23] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  The site seems to work fine in chrome on both boxes here too, both old laptop with lucid and 64-bit lucid desktop
[07:24] <dbum> slackster1: when I was upgrading I clicked on sda instead of sda5 or what ever..... I use a portable hard drive for school and have screwed up grub in the past and started from scratch... now I've gotten the hang of it and even learned how to clear all the junk out of it!!!!  I'm pretty happy now.
[07:24] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: wow, i am actually surprised! try clicking around for a bit.. it'll stop working after, say 15 to 20 seconds.
[07:25] <slackster1> dbum: ah intersting. :P
[07:25] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  I'll give it a shot.  Desktop box has 2 monitors, got the site full screen in firefox on one, and chrome on the other
[07:26] <ynk> ok, i'll give Firefox a shot.
[07:26] <panzer> anyone else having the /var/run/screen bug?
[07:26] <dbum> slackster1: very surprised how ubuntu can jump to many different computers (with portable usb hd) and adapt with little to no problems
[07:26] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk the prob might be more related to the lack of cpu optimization that flash is kinda notorious for on non-windows boxes
[07:27] <aleksej> Привет
[07:27] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: BINGO! :] so that's what's going on...
[07:27] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk the site seemed to hog cpu on my laptop, but its also a 6 year old 700m with a 1.4ghz centrino
[07:27] <Moral_> Ifconfig wants me to run it as sudo, why? and How do I change it back? http://paste.ubuntu.com/433708/
[07:27] <aleksej> Hi
[07:28] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: conversely, i have a 4gb ram 64-bit laptop from HP and it's doing the same...
[07:28] <robertzaccour> are there any web browsers faster than chromium?
[07:28] <dbum> ynk: have you tried gnash...... I haven't but heard some cats talking about it..... less strain......and no they weren't really cats
[07:28] <GarmaZed> robertzaccour: I think Opera 10.5 may be, is it even out yet?
[07:28] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  Yeah the ram might not factor into it at all though.  Adobe's been slow to support gpu rendering on other OS's
[07:28] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  On top of the cpu issues of course
[07:29] <robertzaccour> GarmaZed, i don't know about opera, i know chromium is
[07:29] <ynk> dbum: i hear ya, brotha. i'll read up on it.
[07:29] <hmw> Moral_: its quite unusual, that this directory is not "in the PATH"... you must be in a strange context or did something to your system. Pleas provide more details and what you did before/what you were trying to achieve
[07:29] <ynk> robertzaccour: Opera is the fastest browser known to man -- and still is. :]
[07:29] <GarmaZed> robertzaccour: it looks like only ver 10.10 is out for Linux, but 10.5 is listed as soon
[07:29] <aleksej> Why can the shutdown of Linux turn off the internet connection for all computers connected with the same ADSL-modem?
[07:30] <Moral_> hmw, I was just trying to check my Mac address. I believe this started after I moved from gnome to LXDE as my window manager
[07:30] <robertzaccour> ynk, there's actually one faster than chromium? maybe i'll give it a try :)
[07:30] <enav> how can i show the address field on nautilus at ubuntu 10.04
[07:30] <hmw> Moral_: try to log in on the console: CTRL+ALT+F2
[07:30] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me where address bar is in Nautilus. Using 10.04 lucid lynx.
[07:31] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: i don't get it! Adobe finds time to develop a WORKING VERSION for the iPad -- which Apple still refuses to use -- yet don't won't focus on linux!? what gives, man!
[07:31] <hmw> Moral_: and see, if it is your bash or something with the WM
[07:31] <livingdaylight> is 'search bar' = 'address bar' ?
[07:31] <Moral_> hmw, yea that ran fine
[07:31] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  As a followup, site's been open in both ff and chrome for a few mins of clicking around on the desktop, and it still seems fine.  Its a quad core 2.4ghz box with 4g ram.  Current cpu usage is < 10% on all cores, mem @ 1.4gb with a few other things running.  Looks fine.
[07:31] <Talu> Jeez, people in #vbox sure are unhelpfull.
[07:31] <dbum> View>>location bar
[07:31] <Moral_> so It must be lxde's issue.
[07:31] <GarmaZed> livingdaylight: I think the search bar is hidden by default, I saw a forum post where they mentioned that.
[07:31] <travis> hello there, after installing nvidia drivers, my splash screen got screwed is there a way to solve the issue?
[07:31] <GarmaZed> ^er, address bar I mean
[07:32] <livingdaylight> GarmaZed, yes, it is. But I found how to find the Search Bar. However, I'm looking for the Address bar, unless search bar and address bar are one and the same
[07:32] <slackster1> dbum: yea, great tool.. I too have an old 7200rmp laptop hardisk when I got an external enclosure for.
[07:32] <shifat_taushif> Hello, is there any way to uninstall a 3rd party program on xubuntu?
[07:32] <travis___> i tried using startupmanager and it screwed it even more
[07:32] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  Priorities and money, bud :)  Adobe won't get as much of a return on investment by spending money and man-hours developing for *nix as they will on the mainstream platforms.  Granted, this may change as more android devices start to flood the market.
[07:32] <travis___> :/
[07:33] <soreau> shifat_taushif: Depends on how it was installed
[07:33] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  So if we get lucky, maybe we'll get some trickledown attention by virtue of android support
[07:33] <hmw> livingdaylight: they removed it, you can have the address bar permanently with    gconftool --type bool    --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry  true
[07:33] <CogitoErgoSam> This is getting a little offtopic though
[07:33] <shifat_taushif> soreau: I installed it like this -  sudo apt-get install
[07:33] <odinmytr> hello, ubuntu channel!
[07:34] <soreau> shifat_taushif: So remove it with sudo apt-get remove
[07:34] <dbum> slackster1: They gave everyone at school (IT guys) a 320Gb WD little baby drive..... I love it!!!!!
[07:34] <livingdaylight> hmw, that's criminal... Thanks for the head up
[07:34] <shifat_taushif> thank you!
[07:34] <hmw> livingdaylight: i think so too... perhaps we can find an easy way to get that button back, that allowed switching?
[07:34] <blue-frog> enav, ctrl L
[07:34] <odinmytr> i have some severe trouble with 10.04 upgrade == not booting due to problems with grub and dm-crypt/lvm system
[07:34] <travis___> Do anyone know how to fix the plymouth ugly splash screen issue?
[07:34] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: it's a desktop you were talking about, right? hmm. perhaps it's more efficient on desktops than laptops..
[07:35] <blue-frog> enav, or edit gconf for a permanent address bar
[07:35] <slackster1> dbum: that would be nice.. If you are interested in a OS made for thumb drive.. check out SLAX if you have not
[07:35] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: i see a bright future for Android.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  lots of people have issues with it.. snd some fix's are out.. and some fix's end up making it worse. :)
[07:35] <p1oooop> odinmytr: chroot it...
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[07:35] <odinmytr> ploooop: does not work
[07:36] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  Yeah, I'm sticking with my iphone for now.  My jailbroken iphone that I use to ssh into my ubuntu boxes and script remotely :D
[07:36] <travis___> Dr_Willis, exactly, at first it changed it to lower resolution, after using startupmanager it screwed it completely
[07:36] <p1oooop> odinmytr: load up on another machine with working OS and modify it so it does not need dm-crypt
[07:36] <dbum> slackster1: I ran ubuntu off my flash for a while...just no room to do anything... I'll check it out though
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  i find it best to disable it as much as possible
[07:36] <p1oooop> odinmytr: or with a live-cd
[07:36] <blue-frog> livingdaylight, ctrl L or edit gconf for a permanent change
[07:36] <travis___> Dr_Willis, how do i bring it up in text mode as in old old versions?
[07:36] <slackster1> dbum: when I tried to run ubuntu off my flash it was super slow... slax allows you to load everthing into the ram.. cool project.
[07:36] <Sol-Operator> Hi All!
[07:37] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: i don't have to jailbroken my Android device to ssh on my campus network. ;]
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  that url i gave mentions that.
[07:37] <travis___> Dr_Willis, some kind of verbose output stating what is being loaded
[07:37] <odinmytr> ploooop: first suggestion, that doesn't make sense; second -- i have already done that  with help I could find on ubuntu community forums, debian community forums
[07:37] <soreau> ! hi | Sol-Operator
[07:37] <slackster1> dbum: it is pretty much optimized for such usage
[07:37] <travis___> Dr_Willis, can u repaste url please?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  i also have disabled the plymouth service.. but thats proberly not a good idea
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[07:37] <livingdaylight> blue-frog, thank you. Ctrl 'L' will do
[07:37] <dbum> slackster1: yeah I'm checking it out now.....like I said.... I got my HD now so I'm good.....I'll recommend it though.....kinda reminds me of mandrake
[07:38] <slackster1> dbum: yea.. just worth a look.. I have it on my flash drive.. don't use it much.. but nice to have the option :)
[07:38] <odinmytr> there is some kind of severe problem in 10.04 with initramfs image created on systems that have 9.10 created encrypted filesystem and lvm2
[07:38] <timClicks> i've just upgraded to 10.04 and something has happened that's caused my xorg to only open in low graphics mode
[07:39] <Viking667> what the heck is Plymouth supposed to be? A splash screen that starts from just after Grub?
[07:39] <odinmytr> when you upgrade, the init scripts don't work from initramfs
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Viking667:  basically  - yes
[07:39] <Viking667> ...which reminds me, I have to dart off into the bowels of Grub2 to go fix something ...
[07:40] <odinmytr> also grub-pc is broken in 10.04 for people who have - character in their lvm filename (fix was committed to debian-bugs but not as far as i can tell brought into ubuntu lucid0
[07:41] <slackster1> dbum: thanks for your help.. I'm off now.. getting late
[07:41] <ReligionHater> Is anybody using deluge for bit torrent?
[07:41] <odinmytr> from initramfs busybox shell i am unable to boot into lvm once i have manually used cryptsetup luksOpen to setup the drive
[07:41] <dbum> slackster1: night.... I gotta get some sleep too!!! school in 8 hours
[07:41] <hazizi> can anyone suggest to me appropriate database visualization
[07:41] <hazizi> for data warehouse
[07:41] <slackster1> dbum: school on Sat?
[07:42] <dbum> slackster1: yeah... they stuck me with Friday nights and then I gotta come back on Sat. Morning.....UGHHHH
[07:42] <slackster1> yikes.. well good luck :) bye
[07:42] <ReligionHater> Is there a better bit torrent program than deluge?
[07:43] <odinmytr> does anybody here understand how to boot 10.04 systems from initramfs shell manually and can help with this problem?
[07:43] <dbum> ReligionHater: I like tranmission
[07:43] <travis___> ok lets see if it works
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> ReligionHater:  thers tons of bittorrent clients out - It depends on your needs
[07:43] <travis___> :D
[07:43] <dbum> transmission
[07:43] <ReligionHater> dbum, transmission sucks
[07:44] <dbum> ReligionHater: ok.... I like it.... but ok
[07:44] <fozilla> part
[07:45] <hink> OK, I made a local apt mirror for our network, and this thing is screaming. ..... Question: is it possible to specify a secondary or backup repo?
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  ReligionHater  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/best-linux-bittorrent-client.html
[07:45] <travis___> Dr_Willis, that worked, is ee the awfull pink shit now
[07:45] <olskolirc> what is a good firewall for ubuntu where we can see the ip address of the intruder a good read out please?
[07:45] <alexanderk> hello
[07:45] <ReligionHater> I want to create a torrent but I don't know how? Deluge seems to also suck.
[07:45] <travis___> Dr_Willis, is 1920 x 1080 a valid resolution for splash screen?
[07:45] <alexanderk> i search for a beat detection algorithm
[07:45] <alexanderk> can anybody help me
[07:45] <dbum> guess I'm not the only one....haha
[07:46] <dbum> !ask
[07:46] <dancek> ReligionHater, glad you asked, I've been using utorrent for a while on osx, but deluge just might be a good alternative
[07:46] <alexanderk> have anyone experince with beat detection algorithms?
[07:46] <olskolirc> whats wrong with ubottu?
[07:47] <travis___> Dr_Willis, each time i change the resolution i must regenerate grub and initram?
[07:47] <ReligionHater> dancek, I have been using Deluge for one year now and it sucks.
[07:47] <dbum> I think ubottu is drunk.....
[07:47] <olskolirc> hey dr willis
[07:47] <alexanderk> are there programmers?
[07:47] <egsome> i've problem installing Ubuntu 10.04 with Gigabyte G31, i'm trying to install using NetInstall ( UNetBootIn ) but the problem is that LAN require a driver install ( CD for Windows ) >> Any Idea ?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  proberly
[07:47] <bullgard> alexanderk: There are.
[07:47] <milo__> hey. Can anyone please help me to fix broken package error in ubuntu?
[07:47] <odinmytr> 10.04 system will not boot: upgraded system from 9.10; grub-pc borked, will not upgrade correctly so won't write grub.cfg without /boot prefix; manual booting from initramfs shell doesn't work
[07:48] <travis___> Dr_Willis, is the splash screen capable of full hd format?
[07:48] <alexanderk> anybody have experience with beat detection algorithms?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  no idea.
[07:48] <travis___> Dr_Willis, is there a way to get an old fashioned text boot instead of that crap?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  i basically have a text boot.
[07:49] <alexanderk> anybody has an idea where i can find help about beat detection?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> but X/Gdm startups so fast. i dont see 1/2 the messages
[07:49] <dancek> alexanderk, i have no experience on beat detection and it will depend on what type of music you wanna analyze, but i guess fft'ing and looking for high amplitude low frequencies might sort of work
[07:49] <travis___> Dr_Willis, heh, then i guess ill have to use it and figure out how to change the theme
[07:49] <egsome> i've problem installing Ubuntu 10.04 with Gigabyte G31, i'm trying to install using NetInstall ( UNetBootIn ) but the problem is that LAN require a driver install ( CD for Windows ) >> Any Idea ?
[07:50] <travis___> Dr_Willis, i hope they do a graphical manager at once, i bet other distros using plymouth have it
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  Only other disrto i know of that uses plymouth is redhat (i think)
[07:50] <odinmytr> does anyone here have experience with fixing 10.04 boot problems/
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> There are alteretive plymouth themes in the repos.
[07:50] <travis___> i readed somewhere slackware was using it
[07:50] <dbum> odinmytr:  Grub Problems?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> I would be suprused if slackware is using it.. its still using LILO last i checked.
[07:51] <travis___> yes but again no way of tuning it only in command line
[07:51] <alexanderk> dancek, i wanna get out the bpm of a song
[07:51] <odinmytr> dbum: yes, and initramfs problems!!
[07:51] <odinmytr> dbum: i upgraded from 9.10
[07:51] <robertzaccour> is gnome de recommended for netbooks or should i stick with xfce?
[07:51] <egsome> How to get Networking in Ubuntu 10.04 on a Gigabyte G31 ?
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  i like the netbook interface on my netbooks :)
[07:52] <dbum> odinmytr:  I had to do this after upgrading.....don't worry about the after installing windows part    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:52] <dancek> alexanderk, if you only want bpm then it might be easier, see e.g. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/477944/bpm-audio-detection-library
[07:52] <olskolirc> ubottu offline?
[07:52] <robertzaccour> ynk, i tired opera, it boots up a lot slower than chromium from my end
[07:52] <dbum> odinmytr:  I didn't have iniramfs probs though
[07:52] <hmw> anyone cares to give me a crash course in irssi? I don't see incoming PMs and would like to save on reading 10 hours of man pages for the nifty features
[07:53] <robertzaccour> hmw, have you tried xchat?
[07:53] <hmw> robertzaccour: that doesnt sound like a terminal irc client
[07:53] <ynk> robertzaccour: you didn't say anything about boot time. :P
[07:53] <nixjr> does anyone know howto display ubuntu version name/number in conky?
[07:53] <Flannel> hmw: http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi  alt-# where # is the window number, but read that page, it'll get you up to speed
[07:54] <robertzaccour> ynk, boot time is a good indicator of speed lol
[07:54] <Uggis> hey, few days ago i used some tutorial to make ralink usb wlan to work with ubuntu
[07:54] <hmw> Flannel: great, i am on it! thx
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> hmw:  you may want to check out weechat - it has some very good docs/guides and features not in irssi
[07:54] <Uggis> but now when i put it to laptop, it aint work
[07:54] <robertzaccour> hmw, its not, but it is user friendly and has a decent gui
[07:54] <ynk> robertzaccour: quite honestly, the main reason i use Opera on my desktop, and Chrome on my laptop is because i really love mouse gestures in opera.. as well as a plethora of other features.
[07:54] <robertzaccour> ynk, opera does have a pretty design
[07:55] <odinmytr> dbum: i read the webpage. i have grub installed to the mbr.  the problems are deeper.
[07:55] <dbum> odinmytr: that's what I figured.....sorry.....not the dude for that
[07:55] <odinmytr> dbum: i can boot to grub, hit ctrl-c for command or ctrl-e for edit just fine
[07:55] <hmw> Dr_Willis: I am looking to replace my epic client on my LFS box. Irssih might have little dependencies, how about weechat? I do not want to download and compile tons of libraries, that's why I chose epic when i made my LFS
[07:55] <jushoa> anyone but me have trouble upgrading to 10.04???.... It have trouble connecting to my country software mirror
[07:55] <ynk> robertzaccour: chrome is awesome too. it's my second choice. opera is more intuitive to me, at least. plus, the synchronization of bookmarks is quite sexy.
[07:56] <odinmytr> i think grub-pc for 10.04 still has a serious bug, however
[07:56] <dancek> odinmytr, initramfs problems? what's the error message you get?
[07:56] <tuxx> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:57] <robertzaccour> hmw, are you anti GUI? lol just curious, seems to be the easier way to irc chat
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> hmw:  weechat is in the repos. most text based clients dont have a lot of depends anyway
[07:57] <hmw> Dr_Willis: not repos, ubuntu.. LFS
[07:57] <hmw> and they have sometimes... insanly many...
[07:57] <robertzaccour> whats weechat?
[07:57] <ynk> robertzaccour: opera's speed, a few years back, was its core competency. now, most browsers are so fast, it's hard to really distinguish the difference in speed. just go with whichever you can browse with quickly. opera is that browser for me.. but i use chrome on the go, because without a mouse, my speed is greatly reduced.
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> !info weechat
[07:58] <bigfishinnet> hello
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> weechat a text based irc client - with many innovative features
[07:58] <dancek> robertzaccour, you can't run a gui irc client in a screen somewhere on a server
[07:58] <nixjr> how would I write an awk script that displays my version of ubuntu?
[07:58] <dancek> screen as in gnu screen
[07:58] <tsimpson> nixjr: use lsb_release
[07:58] <odinmytr> dancek: grub-pc in the 10.04 did not write a correct grub.cfg for grub2, as i have a separate /boot partition since i took the route of setting up encrypted main partition with my previous 9.10 install. the grub-pc package in 10.04 is broken.  i can get to grub2 (version is 1.98-1ubuntu60; when i hit e for edit, i can edit the incorrect entries to eliminate the /boot prefix and reset root= to not refer to /dev/mapper
[07:58] <robertzaccour> dancek, ah i see. my computer use stays at home and school lol
[07:59] <dancek> nixjr, did you try lsb_release -a
[07:59] <hmw> Flannel: i already saw the page before, must I read the whole thing (i know about screen already, for example), to find out, how to make irssi tell me, that there are PMs coming in? I can't be checking with ALT-3/ALT-2 all the time
[07:59] <tsimpson> nixjr: or just read /etc/issue
[07:59] <robertzaccour> why do so many bugs get released into the releases?
[07:59] <dancek> tsimpson, it's user-editable so it's not reliable
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  computers are complex :)
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  manpower is limited.
[07:59] <nixjr> that works, but i want to display it in conky, so i need to make it into an awk script that conky cna call
[07:59] <tsimpson> dancek: there is no "reliable" way then
[08:00] <dancek> tsimpson, true :)
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  check the conky homepage, thers proberly allready a feature in conky to do it.
[08:00] <robertzaccour> for example: i had to buy a plug in voice mic cause i couldn't get the integrated mic to work, and have to use my usb card reader because my sd slot don't work
[08:01] <odinmytr> dancek: once i boot edited command list from grub, i get 'error;no such disk' Alert; /dev/mapper/vg--yourdisk--root--lv does not exist. Dropping to a shell
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> hmw:  in weechat - i see a nick/# in my statusbar in the irc window. and I get a 'notify' thing in Gnome. :) saying the message.
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> hmw:  irssi has a setting to show the msgs in the current window i recall. but been ages since i last used it
[08:02] <odinmytr> then i am in initramfs.  i successfully made a crypttab once, then did a luksopen and continued booting whereupon i issued an update-initramfs -u all.  since then i have not been able to repeat that experience
[08:02] <dancek> nixjr, is this good enough? lsb_release -a | grep "^Release" | sed 's/Release:[ \t]*//'
[08:02] <hmw> Dr_Willis: i remember... it's similar in epic. Gotta check it out. Thanks.
[08:03] <nixjr> dancek, i have no idea, i dont know howto write awk, but thats better then anything i could come up with
[08:03] <dancek> odinmytr, hmm, i wouldn't think they dropped lvm device mapper from the initramfs
[08:03] <egsome> Can i install any LAN driver for Windows on Linux using ndiswrapper ?
[08:04] <dancek> robertzaccour, and you lose irc connection whenever you turn off your computer? that's what most of us try to avoid :)
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  a wireless card driver you mean?
[08:05] <dbum> egsome: I use ndiswrapper for my linksys WUB11v4 but can't get WEP to work......works fine with no encryption
[08:05] <odinmytr> dancek: i am in initramfs right now; if i go into /scripts, i see under local-top, for example, cryptoopensc and cryptroot; under /scripts/init-premount there is an lvm2 entry
[08:05] <odinmytr> pwd
[08:05] <dancek> odinmytr, do you still get the old kernel version to boot?
[08:05] <egsome> Dr_Willis, No, i've an old motherboard ( Gigabyte G31 ), it has built-in network, but i don't know how to install the drivers for it !
[08:05] <robertzaccour> dancek, you stay on irc when you're not using your computer? make room for those that need help lol
[08:06] <dancek> robertzaccour, what, i'd lose all the backlog (on friend channels) then
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  normal wired nic. should allready have teh drivers/modules installed.  Figure out what chipset its using. It may be you need to load the modules manually
[08:06] <odinmytr> dancek; no, the old kernel version is gone, since i needed to make nvidia work with 10.04 i got rid of the old kernel
[08:06] <robertzaccour> dancek, i knew what you meant, just tryin to be funny thats all lol
[08:06] <dancek> :)
[08:06] <egsome> Dr_Willis, How should i load it manually ?
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  theres moule autoloading files.
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> !whitelist
[08:07] <dancek> odinmytr, so it's gone as in removed with apt
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> modules.autoload or somthing in /etc/ IF you know the modulename
[08:07] <odinmytr> dancek; gone as in removed with apt affirmative
[08:07] <egsome> Dr_Willis, OK, there's another problem related to that, Now i can't install using the live cd on this mother board
[08:08] <dancek> odinmytr, are you sure you're using the same boot parameters that the old kernel worked with
[08:08] <odinmytr> i am going to try doing the cryptsetup routine again and see what happens, okay/
[08:08] <egsome> Dr_Willis, i get the loading image animating and no thing happens more
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  try the alt-installer cd ?
[08:08] <dancek> odinmytr, yeah, i'm sorry but i guess i can't help you
[08:08] <egsome> Dr_Willis, and i can't use the NetInstall because the nic doesn't work ( need driver )
[08:08] <egsome> Dr_Willis, Can i load the modules for it from the NetInstall ?
[08:08] <odinmytr> dancek: yes, i have the old grub.cfg stored on my server here which i have displayed on another screen side by side with the screen displaying the boot of the problem machine
[08:09] <egsome> Dr_Willis, alt-installer needs internet ?
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  no idea. I never do net installs
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  the normal desktop and alt- can both install without internet.
[08:09] <egsome> Dr_Willis, What does alt gives me ? min-system ?
[08:10] <FireCrotch> egsome: alternate installer gives you a full desktop install
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> alternave installer = text based installer.. works in problem cases
[08:10] <odinmytr> dancek: so at initramfs shell, i enter: 'echo "Encrypted /dev/sda5 none luks" > /etc/crypttab to make a temporary crypttab
[08:10] <FireCrotch> egsome: its useful for systems that can run ubuntu, but can't run the LiveCD-based installer
[08:11] <egsome> Dr_Willis, FireCrotch,  OK, Last Q, Can i load nic modules from LiveCD or NetInstall ?
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  if they are included - you can load them
[08:11] <odinmytr> dancek: then cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 Encrypted; enter passphrase, success, message is 'key slot 0 unlocked'. okay now to try for lvm.
[08:11] <egsome> Dr_Willis, How to ?
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> modprobe modulename
[08:13] <egsome> Drand if Not Included ? i should look for it ?
[08:13] <odinmytr> dancek: /sbin/lvm vgscan is successful
[08:13] <egsome> Dr_Willis,  if Not Included ? i should look for it ?
[08:13] <dancek> odinmytr, well good :)
[08:13] <dancek> odinmytr, i guess it's bug report time then
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> egsome: then you are stuck i guess
[08:14] <egsome> Dr_Willis, No more ways before changing mother board ?
[08:14] <odinmytr> "/sbin/lvm vgchange -ay" == success
[08:14] <odinmytr> now if i exit initramfs, lets see what happens
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  ive never found a wired nic that wasent supported.. but there may be some out there.
[08:15] <wildbat> hi, anyone know where do i set gvfs option? i wanna mount some share upon login and make change the permission setting of the mount. OR how do i umount cifs from fstab be4 network manager shutdown?
[08:16] <odinmytr> danceK; so i dropped into plymouth, and it asked again for my luks passphrase, now is waiting with annoying orange and white dots
[08:17] <sistematico> This rule contains some security flaw? -> http://paste.debian.net/73340/
[08:17] <jushoa> how do I change default file browser from nautilus to dolphin ???
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> jushoa:  not very easially. and with lots of other problems
[08:18] <odinmytr> dancek; on console i see last message; EXT4-fs (dm-1): warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended.
[08:18] <jushoa> Dr.Willis.... so what u say, is that I should keep nautilus, right ;-)
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> jushoa:  ive had cases in the past where kde/gnome get confused and start using the others file manager.. it can get really messy
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> jushoa:  if you like dolphin, make an icon for it on the desktop
[08:19] <zigwoggler> anyway of getting empathy to sign you in automatically? i've had a look and i can't seem to find anyway
[08:19] <jushoa> Dr.Willis.... yeah.... peharpse ur right, and I
[08:19] <sistematico> jushoa: update-alternatives --config www-browser
[08:19] <jushoa> Im using nautilus all the time
[08:19] <sistematico> Or similar..
[08:20] <jerriy> Hi
[08:20] <jushoa> Hey
[08:20] <egsome> Dr_Willis, Thanks for help, i tried another board ( G31 ) now, and it worked !, so i think there's a problem in the first one
[08:21] <egsome> Dr_Willis, Thanks anyway for info
[08:21] <jerriy> Question: I upgraded to Lucid linx and since then my File Browser's "search function" is bust (cant find anything)
[08:21] <zigwoggler> anyway of getting empathy to sign you in automatically when you start the computer?
[08:21] <Wilhelm-Scream> This is probably a really dumb question
[08:21] <Wilhelm-Scream> How do I change the defualt cursor?
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> Wilhelm-Scream:  its in the appearance settings  area.
[08:22] <sistematico> Ziber: System > Preferences > Session
[08:22] <sistematico> ops
[08:22] <Wilhelm-Scream> Thank you
[08:22] <jerriy> System > preferences > mouse I
[08:22] <Mikuzu> CHAT ONLINE http://cyberpunks.ro/   ROMANIAN CHAT             CHAT ONLINE http://cyberpunks.ro/   ROMANIAN CHAT
[08:22] <Mikuzu> CHAT ONLINE http://cyberpunks.ro/   ROMANIAN CHAT             CHAT ONLINE http://cyberpunks.ro/   ROMANIAN CHAT
[08:22] <Mikuzu> CHAT ONLINE http://cyberpunks.ro/   ROMANIAN CHAT             CHAT ONLINE http://cyberpunks.ro/   ROMANIAN CHAT
[08:23] <zigwoggler> !help
[08:23] <Wilhelm-Scream> I see nothing under mouse
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Wilhelm-Scream:   sometimes ive had to log out/back in to get the mouse cursors to change
[08:23] <wildbat> hi, anyone know where do i set gvfs option? i wanna mount some share upon login and make change the permission setting of the mount. OR how do i umount cifs from fstab be4 network manager shutdown?
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Wilhelm-Scream:  its under where you change your themes.  customize button.
[08:23] <gpannwitz> zigwoggler: hi
[08:23] <Wilhelm-Scream> Oh ok
[08:24] <jerriy> Repeat my Question: I upgraded to Lucid linx and since then my File Browser's "search function" is bust (cant find anything)
[08:24] <Wilhelm-Scream> Thank you
[08:24] <zigwoggler> gpannwitz: is there a way of setting empathy to sign you in wen u start the pc or am i just missing the obvious here?
[08:24] <dancek> odinmytr, and it doesn't allow you to enter the passphrase?
[08:24] <gpannwitz> zigwoggler: System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications
[08:25] <zigwoggler> gpannwitz: cheers, wat wud you put in for empathy im?
[08:25] <jerriy> Anybody with Lucid?
[08:25] <gpannwitz> zigwoggler: you add a new entry, and under command you put empathy
[08:26] <zigwoggler> gpannwitz: done, thanks mate
[08:26] <gpannwitz> zigwoggler: glad I could help you :)
[08:26] <odinmytr> dancek: no, correction, in plymouth, it prompted me for the passphrase; after 9 minutes of waiting, (in console i saw maximal mount count reached from ext4-fs) i inserted 10.04 desktop cd and rebooted, bios is set to cd first, so i will run ext4 fsck
[08:27] <purestrain> does anyone know if a package/repo for rubyripper exists in 10.04 ?
[08:27] <dancek> odinmytr, oh.
[08:29] <jerriy> File Browser anyone?
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> jerriy:  what search feature? I never really use search :) other then the locate command
[08:29] <Mukeshh> m using ubuntu... how do i run windows based programs on ubuntu (10.04)
[08:29] <antont> i upgraded to 10.04 in a wubi installed 9.10 and made the mistake of upgrading grub. now am at the grub rescue prompt, and insmod ntfs says 'error: unknown filesystem' and lsmod is an unknown command. don't have a rescue disk. anything i can do to boot?
[08:30] <antont> Mukeshh: use wine?
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> !wine | Mukeshh
[08:30] <odinmytr> dancek: but i think that when i get back to desktop after this manual process, i will find two things; 1) that grub-pc is unable to install from apt; and that any attempt on my part to "fix" my initramfs image with update-initramfs will fail on next book. 1) means that any attempt on my part to let grub-probe write a 'correct' grub-cfg will FAIL, i believe this means that grub-pc latest is in fact broken in some way; and 2) i would like help with how to m
[08:30] <Mukeshh> antont i  know bout wine..but will tat work 100%
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> Mukeshh:  if you want '100%' use windows.. theres no guarentees wine will work with any speciic app
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> Mukeshh:  what app are you wanting to run?
[08:31] <Mukeshh> Dr_Willis i intend to run accounting software windows based...switching here n there is really annoying
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | Mukeshh
[08:32] <dancek> odinmytr, your message was truncated at "i would like help with how to m"
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> Mukeshh:  try it and see is the best answer
[08:32] <odinmytr> dancek: sorry, i am typing with two keyboards and my brain/fingers got confused
[08:32] <antont> .. any clues about the grub rescue prompt ntfs prob? is grub2 so stripped in ubuntu that doesn't have ntfs support, nor even lsmod to see what support there is?
[08:33] <odinmytr> dancek: i would like help with updating my initramfs image so it correctly performs the luksOpen and activates lvm2 volume group. is this possible, or is 10.04 just broken??
[08:33] <navets> hi guys .. i just used ubuntu .. anyone know why my firefox doesn't recognize java .. even after i make .so shortcut ..
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> grub2 has its own set of modules.. but i dont know it enough to even rember the commands to load them
[08:33] <naz> i have a very old athlon machine here... are all athlon CPUs AMD64 capable or were some early ones 32bit ?
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> navets:  .so shortcut? I just installed the java packages and it worked here.
[08:34] <navets> ya
[08:34] <Guest92257> Hey all... When I have a video running fullscreen and I move my mouse to my other display (via x2x) my video exits fullscreen... can someone help me fix this?
[08:34] <dancek> odinmytr, it certainly is possible but as i'm not on linux right now and it's been long since i've played with initrd's, i hope someone else can help you on that...
[08:35] <odinmytr> dancek: understood!
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> !info x2x
[08:35] <odinmytr> danceK:what os u on?
[08:36] <odinmytr> does anyone here have experience with initramfs images?
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> Guest92257:  are you refering to a flash video playing fullscreen? or some other player?
[08:36] <Guest92257> Dr_Willlis: yes its flash. youtube video
[08:36] <antont> Dr_Willis: the docs say it is insmod in grub2, but it doesn't work, and a talk about a bug in ubuntu tracker discussed the prob that so little modules are there .. this is the doc http://grub.enbug.org/Manual#head-d782c3ed07197a089c4fdf66abce08744adcc0eb - e.g. help is unknown in ubuntu, this is the discussion about that - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/387687
[08:37] <antont> insmod is there, but insmod ntfs says 'error: unknown filesystem'
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> Guest92257:  it does it no matter what you do with fullscreen video. flash is a pain that way. Thre is a stand alone flash player called minitube that MIGHT not have the same issue. Its not a X/linux issue. its flash deciding  that if its window loses focus to Unfullscreen
[08:38] <purplefool> so, logged on yesterday for the first time in a while and found a new system update...since last one worked so well.  this one didn't.  should i roll back?
[08:38] <dancek> odinmytr, mac os x
[08:38] <Viking667> odinmytr: sort of...
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube
[08:38] <Guest92257> Dr_Willis: ahh I understand. Thank you very much. I appreciate your help
[08:39] <Viking667> they seem to come in two forms at the moment: cpio archives or gz
[08:39] <Viking667> i.e. initrd.gz
[08:39] <dancek> odinmytr, i'm trying to install linux on this laptop, too, but the linux AHCI driver doesn't work with my chipset... :/
[08:39] <Viking667> On Ubuntu I've also seen lzma used
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> antont:  Hmm.. Ive not messed with grub2 in wubi at all.. so it could be an issue where grub2 isent seeing the stuff from the wubi file/filesystem.
[08:40] <antont> Dr_Willis: the tutorials for rescue mode showed how to use it with wubi, how to tell grub about the loopback device etc., but they begin with 'insmod ntfs' and that first step fails for me
[08:40] <purplefool> took 10 min. for first message. will wait for update i guess...
[08:40] <robertzaccour> is there a disk usage analyzer for xfce?
[08:41] <antont> ls shows the hd, but saying ls (hd0) also 'unknown filesystem'
[08:41] <robertzaccour> or a way to install just disc usage analyzer?
[08:41] <odinmytr> dancek: sorry to hear that, do you have a recent intel santarosa platform or something else
[08:41] <antont> i guess it just doesn't have ntfs support and i can't load it, so can't do anything
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> antont:  issent it ls (hd0,1) or somthing like that?
[08:42] <odinmytr> does anyone here have experience with initramfs, i need to update my initramfs and the usual 'update-initramfs -u all' does not work
[08:42] <antont> Dr_Willis: i thought ls on the plain hd should give the partition info or something .. ls (hd0,1) gives 'error: no such partition'
[08:42] <dancek> odinmytr, the latest (2010-04) macbook pro 13"
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> antont:  try hd0,0 perhaps?
[08:42] <antont> Dr_Willis: first time ever am using grub for anything but choosing what to boot, so can make all kinds of mistakes :)
[08:43] <antont> ls hd0,0 says unknown filesystem
[08:44] <theadmin> ?! How do I get rid of plymouth or whoever it was? removing "splash" does not save me, it still appears
[08:44] <salmon> so im trying to open firefox, and it tells me that it is already running and i have to close the open window, but there is no open firefox window, so i checked the system monitor to see if i could end a non responding process, nothing there firefox wise, so what should i do?
[08:45] <nixjr> how do i find out what port a daemon is running on?
[08:45] <theadmin> salmon: killall firefox <- try this
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> antont:  you sure its not ls (hd0,0) or some special syntax? Grub is VERY picky about the syntax, and you can use the TAB key to complete lots of things in it
[08:45] <Viking667> nixjr: netstat -pa | less   (as the root user)
[08:45] <theadmin> nixjr: sudo netstat -p | grep 'yourprogram'
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  you could disable the plymouth services in /etc/init  but that may not be a proper way to do it
[08:45] <Viking667> ah, sorry. I forgot about sudo
[08:45] <dancek> salmon, that happens sometimes, firefox has a lock file somewhere in your profile folder... let me google it
[08:46] <salmon> theadmin, thanks it worked, saved the day
[08:46]  * Viking667 is so used to root.
[08:46] <timClicks> i'm having real difficulty with Xorg after upgrading to 10.04
[08:46] <antont> Dr_Willis: i think 'ls (hd0,0)' is the correct syntax, 'cause it gives a different error (no such partition). i read about the tab completion in the docs but it hasn't worked for anything so far
[08:47] <dancek> salmon, ok then, never mind :)
[08:47] <antont> is there some grub2 module that should always be there?
[08:47] <antont> so i could verify the syntax for insmod is correct
[08:51] <Guest65949> hello
[08:53] <odinmytr> does anyone have experience helping to fix initramfs problems on a 10.04 upgrade?
[08:55] <elnur> Am I alone with nvidia stopped loading today?
[08:56] <Viking667> hm. I'm having a weird error with grub2 that I can't describe just yet...
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> elnur:  i had it kick into the 'warning low gfx mode' a few times..
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> elnur:  but it worked after i restarted GDM
[08:56] <odinmytr> dancek: if you are booted up on your macbook with livecd, what is the output of 'sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name'?
[08:56] <Viking667> But it goes something like this:   grub loads, then throws two lines onto the screen related to "terminal"
[08:56] <elnur> Dr_Willis, how did you do that?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> elnur:  told it to exit to console at the low gfx screen then 'sudo service gdm restart;
[08:57] <pc> hello
[08:58] <elnur> Dr_Willis, thanks. gonna try it
[08:59] <fuzthewuz> K, have a Asus U3100 mini trying to get working on mythtv backend ... however, can't find the file: dvb-u3100-dmb-th.working.diff
[09:00] <vasiph> how can i register my login
[09:01] <yqzhou> How to create a fixed channel in ircd? Thank you.
[09:01] <elnur> Dr_Willis, heh, just restarted my PC and everything worked.
[09:02] <Jordan_U> yqzhou: I don't know about ircd specifically but usually you do that by having a bot stay in the channel.
[09:03] <odinmytr> has anyone else had problems with 10.04 and its grub-pc situation?
[09:03] <yqzhou> Oh, I know it. Thank you.
[09:03] <antont> odinmytr: i'm having a wubi specific prob with it
[09:04] <belieber> fuzthewuz:
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> 'wubi and problems' seems to go hand in hand.
[09:04] <Jordan_U> odinmytr: Please explain what problem you are having specifically
[09:04] <belieber> ? DCC CHAT HAXHAHXAHXAHX 0 0 0
[09:05] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[09:05] <odinmytr> Jordan_U: 10.04 grub-pc update is borked; does not create correct grub.cfg for separate boot partition, refuses to update since the pack
[09:05] <antont> Dr_Willis: i probably just shouldn't have installed grub boot stuff in the upgrade. but the help text there said 'if you are not sure, just install grub on all partitions', and it sounded like a good advice 'cause i wanted to be able to boot after the upgrade. how wrong can one go..
[09:05] <demen> Good afternoon!
[09:05] <Viking667> I know why that exploit works too...
[09:06] <Viking667> some netgear routers don't play nice with the dcc commands
[09:06] <Avocadobride> hai
[09:06] <anthony> Hi~
[09:06] <yqzhou> hi
[09:06] <Avocadobride> I need help with grub and stuff
[09:06] <Jordan_U> odinmytr: "the pack"?
[09:06] <Avocadobride> I have been trying for yonks
[09:06]  * RPG-Master is away: Away
[09:06] <odinmytr> age scripts cannot find 'pv0'. i manually edited grub.cfg, but doesn't matter.  update-initramfs on 10.04 does not pick up required stuff to decrypt dm-crypt hard drives that were made with 9.10 alternate install
[09:07] <dancek> odinmytr, well i can't get past initramfs since the cd drive is sata too, so it can't be read...
[09:07] <Jordan_U> antont: If you read it carefully it said install on all *drives*. But yes, that comment is unfortunate.
[09:07] <yqzhou> How to talk with someone  started with userid?
[09:07] <tsimpson> RPG-Master: please disable the public away announcement
[09:07] <blackstar> any one knows how to renable trackpad scrolling on Lucid, on karmic it wok fine, but not on lucid, also the FN key F6 and F7 show the notification on my screen but does not do any dimming
[09:07] <david-w> hey guys is there a package pre installed on ubuntu
[09:08] <Avocadobride> So, I got my new 2TB hard drive, and decided to move all my stuff over to it, so I installed windows 7 first, then I installed Lucid, but now when I start it up, Grub does not load, and it goes straight into ubuntu D=
[09:08] <Avocadobride> what do I do?
[09:08] <odinmytr> i CAN get to initramfs shell, manually cryptsetup luks open and key slot for drive; /sbin/lvm vgscan and /sbin/lvm vgchange -ay will work; but then exit initramfs busybox shell and error: /init: line 271; can't open /root/dev/console: no such file
[09:08] <antont> Jordan_U: i guess there is no way for me too boot now from grub rescue prompt? don't have any external boot many now, am looking into perhaps jailbreaking my iphone to make it a bootable usb drive .. am travelling without usb sticks nor cds .. in lapland far from shops too :p
[09:08] <Avocadobride> Im in  LiveCD now so I can screw with stuff
[09:08] <antont> 'any external boot media', tried to say
[09:09] <jerriy> Dr_Willis: I'm talking about the search function in "File Browser" (ubuntu's version of desktop explorer/file manager)
[09:09] <Jordan_U> antont: Does "ls" list your ntfs partition?
[09:09] <odinmytr> Jordan-U; sorry my response was broken over two lines.
[09:09] <antont> Jordan_U: yes, or at least the drive (hd0)
[09:10] <jerriy> File Browser's "search" function doesn't work at all
[09:10] <Avocadobride> So can nobody help me with my problem? I will send you a lollipop!
[09:10] <dancek> odinmytr, it's discussed here though http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1458341 and also there's ubuntu bug #576601
[09:10] <yqzhou> 大家好!
[09:10] <blackstar> any one knows how to renable trackpad scrolling on Lucid desktop , on karmic it wok fine, but not on lucid, also the FN key F6 and F7 show the notification on my screen but does not do any dimming
[09:10] <david-w> .whois FloodBot2
[09:10] <iflema> Avocadobride sounds like all is well :P
[09:10] <Talu>  Anyone who can help me getting Direct 3D to work in Vbox? My host is Ubuntu: 10.04 LTS and my guest Windows XP proffesional. Direct 3D fails at all tests in dxdiag.. How do i fix this?
[09:11] <Avocadobride> iflema: D= no its not
[09:11] <antont> Jordan_U: ls gives '(hd0)'. ls (hd0,1) says 'error: unknown filesystem'
[09:11] <Jordan_U> antont: If it's only listing the drive (hd0) and not any partitions like (hd0,1) then that is probably related to why you are at the grub rescue shell
[09:11] <Avocadobride> iflema: I need to play games on windows man!
[09:11] <Chiku> hi, is there any tool to rescan pci device?
[09:11] <iflema> Avocadobride yeah right o
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> Talu:  you sure its even a feature of Virtualbox to have direct3d support>
[09:11] <jerriy> Dr_Willis: I'm talking about the search function in "File Browser" (ubuntu's version of desktop explorer/file manager)
[09:11] <Chiku> in fact to scan need added pci devices
[09:11] <Avocadobride> iflema: so can you help at all?
[09:11] <david-w> does anyone know if I can install openfire on the vps straight from the packae you do and I hered you are going to use #yum soon
[09:12] <Talu> Dr_Willis: Virtualbox 3.0 got a direct3d support, yes
[09:12] <antont> Jordan_U: so i guess there is no ntfs support and nothing i can do there
[09:12] <Avocadobride> iflema: If I cant fix it, I will just have to uninstall ubuntu D-
[09:12] <Avocadobride> D=
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> Talu:  its possible it only works for specific video card combos/driver versions
[09:12] <Talu> Dr_Willis: But i cant get it to run properly, i seen videos on youtube were people been able to play games without problem
[09:12] <overmind> david-w: /whois will work better
[09:12] <odinmytr> why is the initramfs so busted in 10.04?
[09:12] <blackstar> any one gor trackpad scrolling on Lucid , for a toshiba satellite?
[09:12] <Jordan_U> antont: You don't even get the windows bootloader? When using wubi grub-install should never actually overwrite the windows bootloader (maybe the package lupin-support was uninstalled somehow?)
[09:13] <iflema> Avocadobride youll be back
[09:13] <Avocadobride> iflema: not If I cant fix this
[09:13] <Avocadobride> iflema: Can you help man?
[09:13] <odinmytr> has anyone else had the experience that grub-pc in 10.04 will NOT update via apt correctly? I can't be the only one...
[09:13] <jerriy> Help! File Browser bug in my Lucid
[09:14] <david-w> that is what I done
[09:14] <Talu> Dr_Willis: Hmm i see. I currently have a intel GMA45 in this laptop, when running Windows everything works perfect, but when atempting to run it trough Virtualbox the direct3d apears to not work.
[09:14] <david-w> I done a misyake overmind
[09:14] <Avocadobride> odinmytr: I dont know, but my PC is booting straight into ubuntu, and skipping grub
[09:14] <odinmytr> and there MUST be some folks who had encrypted root from 9.10 installs, who upgraded to 10.04? did some of you have problems
[09:14] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: Hold down shift during boot to see the grub menu
[09:14] <Avocadobride> odinmytr: naw I didnt encrypt my root though
[09:14] <blackstar> anyone got trackpad scrolling on Lucid desktop, for a toshiba satellite? ...
[09:15] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: shouldnt it do that by default?
[09:15] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: So if it skips grub it goes straight to ubuntu?
[09:15] <odinmytr> i have to figure this out, in case i need to file a bug report
[09:15] <bigbang12> how to run windows media player playlist (.wpl) in ubuntu
[09:15] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: It's an Ubuntu specific default to only show the menu if another OS is installed
[09:16] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: but I have windows 7 installe
[09:16] <Avocadobride> d
[09:16] <odinmytr> there must be something i am missing
[09:16] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: Its even got a boot flag in gparted
[09:16] <odinmytr> danceK: i saw that webpage you posted, wow living on the bleeding edge of kernels ouch
[09:16] <antont> Jordan_U: nope i don't get the win bootloader, just the grub rescue prompt and can't boot to anything
[09:17] <Avocadobride> Im going to try holding down shit
[09:17] <Avocadobride> *shift
[09:17] <Avocadobride> wish me luck!
[09:17] <FloodBot2> Avocadobride: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:17] <ConsoleFx> In Ubuntu 10.04 I am trying to do some basic stack smashing (with -fno-stack-protector flag), but i m not able to overwrite EIP... only EBP is getting overwritten....i disabled ASLR as well... how i can pass through this??
[09:17] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[09:17] <blackstar> anyone got touchpad scrolling on Lucid desktop, for a toshiba laptop? ...
[09:18] <odinmytr> so from grub editor: edit incorrect entry, eliminate /boot prefix,then use ctrl-X to boot, will go to initramfs due to lack of crypt support
[09:18] <joschi> I installed the package 'postgresql', purged it, and reinstalled it. now the configuration files in /etc/postgresql are missing.
[09:18] <joschi> how can I regenerate them or how can I make aptitude install them again?
[09:19] <anthony> 有無人講中文？
[09:20] <omfarka> hello, my graphic card is ati radeon xpress 200m , and i'm using ubuntu 10.04
[09:20] <odinmytr> does anyone have experience with 10.04 booting problems related to encrypted root and initramfs?
[09:20] <researcher1> I have Ubuntu10.04 on my PC.Now want XP also.Is it safe to install XP now?
[09:21] <omfarka> how can i find the best driver for my card
[09:21] <Avocadobride> researcher1: not really
[09:21] <odinmytr> is this kind of question able to be answered in this channel?
[09:21] <Avocadobride> researcher1: It will boot straight into windows every time
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> omfarka:  'best'  means very little for that card I think its only supported by the open source included ati driver.
[09:21] <Avocadobride> researcher1: There is this thing called grub, and what it does, is it lets you choose which operating system you want to boot up
[09:22] <Slart> researcher1: sure, you can install xp now.. you'll have to restore grub when your done though since xp will install its own boot loader
[09:22] <omfarka> may i find the compatible driver from ati's website
[09:22] <Slart> !grub | researcher1
[09:22] <blackstar> anyone know how to get working the touchpad scrolling on Lucdi Desktop ?
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> omfarka:  ati has been dropping support for a lot of the low end.older cards. You can look.. but i doubt if its supported by the fglrx driver any longer.
[09:22] <Avocadobride> researcher1: There is this one spot on your Hard drive called a boot sector, and that is where your computer looks for instructions when it is starting up
[09:22] <researcher1> Avocadobride: What if I install after Ubuntu?
[09:23] <Avocadobride> researcher1: Windows will write over the boot sector
[09:23] <Avocadobride> reearcher1: so you need to make a grub disk
[09:23] <researcher1> Gurb disk?
[09:23] <odinmytr> can anyone here help with initramfs problems?
[09:23] <researcher1> GRUB disk?
[09:23] <Avocadobride> researcher1: And when windows writes over the boot sector, you can write over it AGAIN with grub
[09:24] <Avocadobride> researcher1: which is a special menu that lets you choose which Operating system to boot up
[09:24] <Avocadobride> researcher1: wait one second while I find you a link
[09:24] <researcher1> ok
[09:24] <Avocadobride> researcher1: but generally you should install windows first then Ubuntu
[09:24] <omfarka> Dr_Wills: thank you for your interest
[09:24] <costre> !grub > researcher1
[09:25] <Avocadobride> ubottu: did you link him to the grub disk download?
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> omfarka:  you did check the -->   System>Administration>Hardware Drivers                   to see what it says about that card?
[09:25] <Avocadobride> oh
[09:25] <Avocadobride> costre: does that link him to the grub disk download?
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> omfarka:  from the forums --> http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1434151
[09:26] <odinmytr> gawd i FINALLY got my upgraded 10.04 system to boot; i wish i could find someone in this channel who understood initramfs and 10.04 issues well enough to tell me how to fix my initramfs so that i can boot successfully the next time; i am serious when i say that 'grub-pc' package will not update in apt and that it writes the wrong entries in grub.cfg; and that update-initramfs tools in 10.04 is broken
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> omfarka:  ATI no longer supports your card and the last proprietary driver to support it (catalyst 9.3 = fglrx 8.593) does not work in any ubuntu release newer than 8.10. So the open source driver is your only hope.
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> And 64 bit has nothing to do with it (ati has released 64 bit versions of their drivers for years, and all of the catalyst releases are combined 32 and 64 bit installers).
[09:26] <costre> Avocadobride, It deals with installing windows after ubuntu
[09:26] <costre> amongst other things
[09:26] <hceasyon> waaa..the user is very  much
[09:26] <Avocadobride> costre: cool
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> omfarka:  SO.. from what i am reading.. You use the Open Sourced Drivers for the x200m
[09:26] <Avocadobride> costre: can you help me with my own grub problem pl0x?
[09:27] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[09:27] <costre> Avocadobride, I doubt it :)
[09:27] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: wha?
[09:27] <odinmytr> os-prober is broken in 10.04 --WARNING
[09:27] <Jordan_U> odinmytr: Broken in what way?
[09:27] <odinmytr> visions23377\dipstick
[09:27] <omfarka> Dr_Wills: yes
[09:28] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: nothing happened
[09:28] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: Ok, can you mount your windows partition?
[09:28] <omfarka> i will ask some question for Python Developer
[09:28] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: that would probably make sense XD
[09:28] <omfarka> which IDE do you recommend
[09:29] <Ddorda> did anyone try Dell Inspiron Mini 1012 with Ubuntu? how it runs?
[09:29] <odinmytr> jordan; grub-pc will not update due to os-prober error
[09:29] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U:harry@Blue-Betty:~$ sudo os-prober
[09:29] <Avocadobride> [sudo] password for harry:
[09:29] <Avocadobride> harry@Blue-Betty:~$
[09:29] <gogeta> hey does ircii not have tab for compleating names
[09:29] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: thats after I mounted it
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> gogeta:  it may be a script/add in feature
[09:29] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: That means that os-prober, which is used by grub, is not detecting your windows installation for some reason
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> gogeta:  ircii is VERY old :)
[09:30] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: ah. that is bad
[09:30] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: is there a way to manually do that
[09:30] <gogeta> thats the one everyons says to use
[09:30] <odinmytr> jordan: grub-pc will not update due to os-prober error -- there is a bug or more than one somewhere
[09:30] <overmind> gogeta: isn't irssi?
[09:30] <gogeta> lol
[09:30] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: btw, I held down shift when it was starting up, and only memtest and ubuntu where there
[09:30] <^BOBST^> hello!!
[09:30] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: Yes, you can add a custom entry to /etc/grub.d/40_custom then run "sudo update-grub".
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> i perfer weechat over  ircII , irssi, bitchx, and any others
[09:31] <yqzhou> ^BOBST^, Hello
[09:31] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: 0.o, I am a bit of a noob
[09:31] <HinHin> hi there >.< would anyone happen to know some guide to how to detect ethernet cards with Ubuntu (server)
[09:31] <Jordan_U> odinmytr: Could you link to the bug report?
[09:31] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: how do I add a custom entry?
[09:31] <HinHin> using Ubuntserver in Virtualbox
[09:31] <^BOBST^> only english boys??
[09:31] <^BOBST^> im italian
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> HinHin:  clarify what you mean? virtualbox has  several nic's it can 'emulate' and most all should be auto-detected/modules loaded for them
[09:31] <^BOBST^> uhauahuhua
[09:32] <yqzhou> I am China man
[09:32] <yqzhou> haha
[09:32] <^BOBST^> i don spaek end write wery well on english
[09:32] <yqzhou> Is there any one from China?
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> !cn
[09:32] <HinHin> Dr_Willis, well... this VM was working with another setup
[09:33] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: am in nano in 40_custom
[09:33] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U now what do I do?
[09:33] <HinHin> when i moved VM hardisk to my computer... :\ networking broke
[09:33] <yqzhou> ubottu,  Thank you
[09:33] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: First, could you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> HinHin:  your virtualbox settings may be diffrent.  Not the harddisk
[09:33] <gogeta> go figure i had the old one
[09:33] <HinHin> Dr_Willis, it's not detecting a ethernet card though
[09:33] <gogeta> Dr_Willis: btw the tape worked for my broken ram slot
[09:34] <HinHin> using the same adaptor
[09:34] <Avocadobride> what is a pastebin?
[09:34] <HinHin> e.g. Host-only adaptor
[09:34] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: is it like an imagedump for words?
[09:34] <MikeChelen> !pastebin | Avocadobride
[09:34] <vasiph> hi how can i register my login in here
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> HinHin:  double check the virtualbox manual for net6working options. You may need to change some settings in the vbox configs
[09:34] <Freeunix> ?
[09:34] <Avocadobride> Man I love this IRC, everyone is so helpful
[09:35] <MikeChelen> vasiph: /msg nickserv register
[09:35] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/433746/
[09:35] <HinHin> Dr_Willis, ah... well i'll try manually getting ubuntu to usethe card first, it's detected with lspci
[09:35] <odinmytr> jordan-u: i have only found several bug reports that seem to corroborate my contention that there may be upstream bugs that have not been squashed in grub-pc and update-initramfs tools in Ubuntu 10.04. i have them bookmarked onthe system that I (FinALLY) just got up and running; i will post them for you as i find them. currently inthe upper right hand corner of my 10.04 screen i have the orange exclaimation point, due to the failed apt update of grub-pc t
[09:35] <HinHin> :P i haven't had to do this for quite a long time haha
[09:35] <gogeta> Dr_Willis: some tape on the bottom of the ram stick stuck it down i got 1gb again my old c610 has bad plastic pins that hold the ram down
[09:35] <Freeunix> 有中国人不？有的话冒个泡泡！
[09:36] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: sda1 is the windows one
[09:36] <gogeta> i forgot who told me to do that
[09:36] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: Ok, are both NTFS partitions mountable? If one isn't, it's probably the one that contains the windows bootloader (and os-prober can't detect it without being able to mount that partition)
[09:37] <Talu> Does anyone know how to remove WineD3D?
[09:37] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: Both are mountable
[09:37] <Juniksz> Hello, anyone knows how can I send vibrating/buzz/poke in Finch? (MSN protocol)
[09:37] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: Both are mounted right now
[09:38] <antont> Jordan_U: so when i get to repair using a livecd or something, what should i do? read about many things - installing grub again, using some test disk to get mbr back etc. but am a bit confused now. i don't have a windows install disk, it came preinstalled
[09:38] <bigbang12> how to run windows media player playlist (.wpl) in ubuntu
[09:39] <Avocadobride> antont: that is bad that you dont have a disk, you probably should go and buy one later, after you have fixed this
[09:39] <wildbat> hi, anyone know where do i set gvfs option? i wanna mount some share upon login and make change the permission setting of the mount. OR how do i umount cifs from fstab be4 network manager shutdown?
[09:39] <odinmytr> jordan-u; here goes, i am going to attempt to apt-get upgrade and it will finish with dpkg error due to grub-pc
[09:40] <gogeta> Avocadobride: hows it bad he doesent have a disk
[09:40] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: Ok, try adding this to /etc/grub.d/40_custom then: http://pastebin.com/SC8yHqbi
[09:40] <Kamalino> Hi guys, I have an OVH kimsufi server with ubuntu desktop 8.04 I'd like to upgrade to 10.04. Is it possible?
[09:40] <antont> Avocadobride: there is no way with linux using grub or something to get it boot windows? i recall it was possible in the '90s with LILO when i was messing with this stuff previously :)
[09:40] <Avocadobride> gogeta: because if he kills his windows partition thats the end of it
[09:40] <gogeta> Kamalino: yep
[09:41] <Kamalino> i'm trying to run vmware workstation on it, but gives me kernel missing problem
[09:41] <Avocadobride> antont: I dont know XD I was in primary school in the 90s man!
[09:41] <gogeta> Kamalino: go to your softwhere sources and set the upgared to lts
[09:41] <gogeta> Kamalino: should upgrade you stragt to lucid
[09:41] <coldjack> hello can anybody help me i got a wrong resolotion on my ubuntu lucid lync
[09:41] <coldjack> and i cannot change the resolotion
[09:42] <Avocadobride> antont: that is what I am trying to do right now!
[09:42] <gogeta> coldjack: xrander
[09:42] <Hidden> 中国人在中国专区
[09:42] <Avocadobride> antont: Jordan_U is the one helping me
[09:42] <zigwoggler> !help
[09:42] <Avocadobride> antont: he is awesome
[09:42] <antont> Avocadobride: so it seemed :)
[09:42] <coldjack> http://nopaste.info/f01f45acb8.html
[09:43] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: so should custom_40 look like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/433749/
[09:43] <yantie> hai,,,,,,,,,,,
[09:43] <ubud> any sites had description on vmplayer for 10.04
[09:43] <yantie> ...............
[09:44] <gogeta> Avocadobride: most cd less windows pcs come with a restore partation with the option to make a restore cd
[09:44] <theadmin> yay, bug fixed... wanna say big thanks to devs but dunno how :D
[09:44] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: Yes.
[09:44] <Hidden> 中国人到中国频道
[09:44] <theadmin> Hidden: Englsih please
[09:44] <Avocadobride> gogeta: oh sorry then
[09:44] <zigwoggler> ive just installed steam on ubuntu via playforlinux and now when i go and press uninstall on the menu it doesnt work?
[09:45] <gogeta> Avocadobride: so he should make a restore disk
[09:45] <theadmin> zigwoggler: We don't support POL or WINE here.
[09:45] <zigwoggler> help?
[09:45] <coldjack> gogeta: did you see the nopaste?
[09:45] <theadmin> zigwoggler: Just wait 6 or 7 months for the Linux steam, seriously
[09:45] <Kamalino> I'm trying to install vmware, and it gives me: several modules must be compiled in current jernek, Kernel Headers 2.6.32.2-xxxx-std-ipv4-32
[09:45] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: If this works PM me and give me your address so I can mail you the lollipop
[09:45] <zigwoggler> ok, but is there anyway of uninstalling it via terminal?
[09:45] <Kamalino> what do i have to do
[09:45] <gogeta> coldjack: to change your rez use xrander
[09:45] <theadmin> zigwoggler: I dunno, theoretically, it should have made a folder or something which you can just delete
[09:46] <coldjack> i cannot
[09:46] <zigwoggler> theadmin: hmm 1 sec lemme just check
[09:46] <coldjack> is not available
[09:46] <gogeta> coldjack: you can open a term and type xrander
[09:46] <coldjack> ja
[09:46] <gogeta> cant
[09:46] <odinmytr> Jordan-pc: so the apt upgrade finally got to grub-pc: a window opens, says that GRUB failed to install to the following devices: /dev/sda Do you want to continue anyway/
[09:47] <gogeta> coldjack: sorry i mispelled it
[09:47] <odinmytr> Jordan-pc: error was /usr/sbin/grub-probe; error: physical volume pv0 not found
[09:47] <Jordan_U> odinmytr: Does "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" give any errors?
[09:48] <gogeta> coldjack: its xrandr
[09:48] <luke_guy> meep
[09:48] <odinmytr> jordan-pc: thus dpkg gets error fed to it
[09:48] <luke_guy> ah
[09:48] <coldjack> yeah i know but it is not in my source
[09:48] <theadmin> gogeta: Good that xrandr is not here or he'd complain that you misspeled his nick :D (we have a user with such a name)
[09:48] <odinmytr> jordan-pc; i think so, i have been down this road two days ago, i will try it again in another term window, wait a sec
[09:49] <zigwoggler> theadmin: any idea where this folder might be?
[09:49] <gogeta> theadmin: i tabbed his nic so if its mispelled thats his doing
[09:49] <theadmin> Hm, a crazy idea came into my head... with Linux, it should theoretically be possible to run an X inside another X, right? How, then?
[09:49] <antont> i think i understand my prob now - i thought also with wubi i was using grub, 'cause i saw a menu :) .. only now learned that windows bootloader can also give options, and am guessing wubi just put things to windows boot.ini. but to get the wubi ubuntu booting, using the loopback stuff with grub should work .. once get a grub with ntfs support
[09:49] <theadmin> zigwoggler: If I recall correctly, PlayOnLinux should have asked
[09:50] <gogeta> theadmin: virtual machine or cygwin
[09:50] <odinmytr> jordan-pc: yes, error generated from sudo grub-install /dev/sda: '/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error; physical volume pv0 not found. Auto-detection of a filesystem module failed. please specify the module withthe option `--modules' explicitly
[09:50] <root> iptux
[09:50] <Hidden> theadmin, Got it.
[09:50] <theadmin> gogeta: meow, not that, I mean just an X itself... like KDE inside GNOME (without virtualizing the machine itself)
[09:50] <zigwoggler> theadmin: but i uninstalled playonlinux thinking it would uniinstall steam and the other games etc. but it hasn't.
[09:51] <theadmin> aha, found it, "xnest"
[09:51] <theadmin> zigwoggler: Well, theoretically it's a dot folder somewhere inside your home directory
[09:51] <gogeta> theadmin: cygwin then
[09:51] <napsy> Hello. Is there a fix yet to repair the brightness applet to work on ati cards?
[09:51] <theadmin> napsy: uhm. It works over here :D And I do have an ATI card
[09:52] <luke_12345> can pidgin seamlessly replace empathy, including in the notification applet? it shows up there, but the "chat" menu entry still goes to empathy.
[09:52] <napsy> theadmin: it doesn't work on my vaio laptop
[09:52] <zigwoggler> theadmin: just had a look and i can't seem to find it
[09:52] <|izzie> so, when i open my applications, the top bar, with the maximize/minimize/close arrows (as well as the application name) no longer appears... what's up with that?
[09:52] <coldjack> why i got only 3 resolutions?
[09:52] <theadmin> zigwoggler: Try hitting Ctrl+H to display dotfiles/folders
[09:52] <gogeta> theadmin: cygwin is like wine but for linux
[09:52] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U:
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> zigwoggler:  wine menu entries are defined in a spefific .XXX dir in the users home. I forget where.
[09:53] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: It didnt work
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> zigwoggler:  you could proberly use 'alacarte' to remove them also
[09:53] <theadmin> gogeta: uh. You didn't get my question, it seems. Well, anyway, "xnest" does it
[09:53] <gogeta> theadmin: pretty funny to run gnome on windows using it
[09:53] <Slart> |izzie: is it the same for all windows?
[09:53] <zigwoggler> theadmin: ok so i just delete the whole .wine folder?
[09:53] <theadmin> zigwoggler: Sure why not :D
[09:53] <coldjack> i have 640*480,  320*240
[09:53] <zigwoggler> and the same for .playonlinus?
[09:53] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: Although While I was in grub, I checked and the command grub> root (hd0,0) returned the error partition doesnt exist
[09:53] <zigwoggler> playonlinux*
[09:53] <theadmin> zigwoggler: Should be so.
[09:53] <zigwoggler> thanks
[09:53] <coldjack> its dmn shit^^
[09:54] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: grub2 numbers partitions from 1
[09:54] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: You can list partitions with "ls"
[09:54] <theadmin> gogeta: heh, for Linux@Windows I preffer andLinux, less complicated and Ubuntu-based.
[09:54] <coldjack> i installed the 173 nvidia drivers
[09:54] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: oh, so how do I fix it
[09:54] <coldjack> but it does not help anything
[09:54] <Dr_Willis>  ~/.local/share/applications/wine    has my wine menu items
[09:54] <tsimpson> systix: btw, you forgot to test it (systix__ is still banned)
[09:54] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: did you see the pastebin?
[09:54] <zigwoggler> ok, its all gone. last problem now, how do i get the program links (wine etc.0 off my applocations menu?
[09:54] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: It's not that, dude, he means the apps... :D
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  to remove the apps.. delete the .wine dir :)
[09:54] <theadmin> zigwoggler: run "alacarte" and from it delete the Wine category
[09:54] <coldjack> how can i install xserver new?
[09:55] <coldjack> sudo apt-get remove xserver and tha install xserver
[09:55] <coldjack> or what must i do
[09:55] <gogeta> coldjack: then for some reasing your in low rez mode probly your video card not working like it should
[09:55] <coldjack> yeah and why is the vido card not running^^
[09:55] <gogeta> coldjack: it a nivida
[09:55] <gogeta> coldjack: or ati
[09:56] <coldjack> nvidia
[09:56] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: Did you get any error when you selected the Windows option?
[09:56] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: there was no windows option
[09:56] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: I had to hold down shift aswell
[09:56] <gogeta> coldjack: try system  > admin > hardware drivers
[09:56] <coldjack> i did
[09:56] <zigwoggler> oh my gosh, ive completely forgot how to run alacarte, help :L
[09:56] <coldjack> and install the 173
[09:57] <theadmin> zigwoggler: From terminal or something
[09:57] <gogeta> coldjack: did you restart your machine after
[09:57] <zigwoggler> oh yh
[09:57] <coldjack> twice
[09:57] <zigwoggler> thanks
[09:57] <gogeta> coldjack: humm
[09:57] <alexxio> ubuntu one says i'm out of network, but i'm of course connected as you can see...what can i do to make it connects to my accounts? (last time i switched off the pc it was going, now it seems i can not enable that..)
[09:57] <coldjack> i'm fckin angry about my fukin pc
[09:58] <GarmaZed> I'm having an issue with connecting an external display via VGA using 10.04 on a notebook with an ATI chipset, could someone help me please?
[09:58] <jpds> !language | coldjack
[09:58] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: Did you run "sudo update-grub" (that should add the menu entry but you'll still need to hold shift)
[09:58] <theadmin> ubottu: language | coldjack
[09:58] <gogeta> coldjack: try running nivida-xconfig
[09:58] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: no I didnt, I am retarded XD
[09:58] <coldjack> did
[09:58] <gogeta> coldjack: no error?
[09:59] <zigwoggler> theadmin: all sorted now, thanks loads mate for all your help
[09:59] <coldjack> no error!
[09:59] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: ok done that Hopefully it works this time!
[09:59] <|izzie> slart: yes, all applications.
[09:59] <coldjack> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[09:59] <coldjack> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[09:59] <coldjack> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:59] <theadmin> zigwoggler: No problem :D
[09:59] <gogeta> coldjack: its probly not able to see your monoter and not setting a lo rez
[09:59] <coldjack> yeah its not probly
[10:00] <coldjack> okay than i'm angry about my ubuntu and than i use only my macbook
[10:00] <coldjack> pity
[10:00] <odinmytr> Jordan-U: did you see my last post?
[10:00] <GarmaZed> do I need proprietary drivers to connect an external display through VGA, and what if prop drivers aren't available?
[10:00] <gogeta> coldjack: have you ran nivida-settings
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> GarmaZed:  i find it depends on the video card.
[10:00] <tizbac> gogeta: do nvidia-xconfig as root
[10:01] <tizbac> *coldjack
[10:01] <Kamalino> how do I upgrade kernel on ubuntu 8.04 ???
[10:01] <GarmaZed> Dr_Willis: when I connect a monitor via VGA it shows the same image but with moving wavey lines
[10:01] <gogeta> tizbac: pretty shure he knoes to sudo that
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> GarmaZed:  is this a netbook or what exactly?
[10:02] <Jordan_U> odinmytr: You messages will only be highlighted if they contain my nick, which uses an underscore ('_') not a dash ('-').
[10:02] <Slart> |izzie: it's probably just your window decorator that has crashed.. easiest fix is to just reboot or restart X
[10:02] <Kamalino> how do I upgrade kernel on ubuntu 8.04 ???
[10:02] <Jordan_U> !tab | odinmytr
[10:02] <GarmaZed> It's an Acer laptop, it uses an ATI Radeon chipset, X1250 Xpress
[10:02] <|izzie> slart, yes, i've already rebooted to no avail.
[10:02] <coldjack> yes i run nivida-settings
[10:02] <Slart> Kamalino: "sudo apt-get update" followed by a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" should get you the newest from the repositories
[10:02] <gogeta> tizbac: nividas droping to low is a pretty common error if they dont see your monoter
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> GarmaZed:   My Acer AspireOne had a bios bug where the exteranal vga was 'wavy' at the default/low res modes. but at higher modes it was fine.
[10:03] <odinmytr> Jordan_U that worked?
[10:03] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: ...huh? Like "blurry" or something? I seem to have that too o_O
[10:03] <GarmaZed> Dr_Willis: it appears to do it in the native resolution for the display, I haven't tried it at something lower yet.
[10:03] <gogeta> coldjack: is 3d working and your just getting a low rez
[10:03] <coldjack> gogeta:  thank you for your help but i think i will format my ubuntu stuff
[10:03] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: I got the error invalid device
[10:03] <RyR88> what's new in 10.04? Is there a reason to upgrade?
[10:03] <coldjack> no 3d isn't running
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  the  text actaully sort of wiggled around like the  signal was messed uo.
[10:03] <theadmin> RyR88: What's your current release?
[10:04] <gogeta> coldjack: whont fix the problem
[10:04] <Slart> |izzie: oh.. then it's something else.. not sure what though
[10:04] <Jordan_U> odinmytr: Yes
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  took back one AAO befir researhng it more to reaize it was a bios bug.
[10:04] <gogeta> coldjack: this isnt winddows
[10:04] <coldjack> yeah i use mac=)
[10:04] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: and invalid something else
[10:04] <coldjack> but i restart my pc and than like this
[10:04] <gogeta> coldjack: no 3d have you tested compiz
[10:04] <coldjack> that is no normal
[10:04] <coldjack> 3d is deactived
[10:04] <RyR88> theadmin, Ibex
[10:05] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Well, i dunno, I'm on Asus A6Rp, it has quite a problem with image being very blurry on low resolutions.
[10:05] <dupondje> 10.04 doesn't have Xen kernel right ? :(
[10:05] <GarmaZed> Dr_Willis: it looks like it's still wavey on low res, too
[10:05] <theadmin> RyR88: ...What the heck!? Update immidiately, Ibex is no more supported
[10:05] <gogeta> coldjack: worst case you do a manule install
[10:05] <coldjack> yeah maybe
[10:05] <RyR88> theadmin, err actually, I'm wrong, 9.10
[10:05] <coldjack> okay but i will leave now
[10:05] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: Hello?
[10:05] <coldjack> maybe i install nvida manual
[10:05] <coldjack> thanks
[10:05] <RyR88> theadmin, whatever that one was called, something with a K
[10:05] <theadmin> RyR88: Karmic Koala?
[10:05] <RyR88> theadmin, yeah, that one! XD
[10:06] <|izzie> slart ... thanks?
[10:06] <MeXTuX> My PC has a front audio jack. It worked on Intrepid Ibex but now with Lucid Lynx it doesn't work. My card is an HDA Intel and the chip is SigmaTel Stac9227.
[10:06] <theadmin> RyR88: XD Well anyway, it's worth it... Lucid has nice themes, the "Me Menu" thingy and... well, update, It's worth it
[10:06] <gogeta> eh guess i cant blame him some cards can be annoying
[10:06] <RyR88> theadmin, it looks really pretty O_O but I spent so much time making my own theme
[10:07] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: Ok, try this in 40_custom: http://pastebin.com/Rk8qV6NE
[10:07] <GarmaZed> As I'm changing the settings for the external disp resolution, now it only says Input Not Supported.  :(
[10:07] <odinmytr> Jordan_U, do you have any insight on what path i might take to get a working grub-pc package?
[10:07] <Slart> |izzie: just ask the channel again, mention that you've rebooted and that it didn't make the problem go away
[10:07] <|izzie>  so, when i open my applications, the top bar, with the maximize/minimize/close arrows (as well as the application name) no longer appears... what's up with that? ... reboot does nothing
[10:07] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> |izzie:  alt-f2 try  'metacity --replace'
[10:08] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: Do I add it on the end or do I delete the windows test thing from last time?
[10:08] <bigbang12> how to run windows media player playlist (.wpl) in ubuntu
[10:08] <kerozene> how do I stop aptitude wanting to load recommended packages (like apparmor when I install mysql-server)?
[10:09] <theadmin> RyR88: Pretty? Heck yeah! We finally beat Fedora by the nice-look-iness, IMO
[10:09] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: Delete the windows test (though leaving it won't hurt anything)
[10:09] <RyR88> theadmin, I guess it's about time I really redid my theme, I've had the same one for the last 3 releases lol
[10:09] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U:gonna go find a netbook so I can talk while my pc if restarting
[10:09] <|izzie> holy CRAP, Dr_Willis!!!!!
[10:11] <rkpisanu> hi
[10:11] <theadmin> bigbang12: Hm... VLC opens them
[10:11] <odinmytr> does anyone here really understand initramfs on 10.04, and its relationship with possible grub-pc bugs? on my system both are broken after update from 9.10
[10:11] <[fade]> odinmytr what problem are you experiencing?
[10:12] <theadmin> RyR88: Also, uh, they moved the window controls (minimize, maximize, close...) to the left side. Which is possible to move back. But just warning you
[10:12] <bongko> hallo
[10:13] <odinmytr> my grub-pc package fails to install grub on /dev/sda with weird error; my initramfs image will not update properly with 'update-initramfs -u all' -- combo means that i have to boot from initramfs shell ever time, and sometimes the boot fails with kernel panic
[10:13] <RyR88> theadmin, it's possible to keep them on the right? thank gawd =P
[10:13] <bongko> is ubuntu have control center?
[10:15] <bongko> like drake or yats
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> bongko:  not really
[10:15] <alexanderk> hey
[10:15] <bongko> o
[10:15] <Viking667> what's "yats"?
[10:16] <bongko> open suse control center
[10:16]  * Viking667 vaguely remembers that from Suse days...
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> 'yast'
[10:16] <Viking667> ahhhh. yast.
[10:16] <bongko> yes
[10:16] <bongko> sorry
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> Those things seem to be more common in rpm based disrtos.
[10:16] <alexanderk> anybody stationary with bpm messurement?
[10:17] <phani> Hi... I am having lucid lynx and I am unable to configure Tata photon plus data card. Could you please give me some suggestions and also I am new to linux too
[10:17] <theadmin> bongko: Control Center? "gnome-control-center" - run that. Something in the likes/
[10:18] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: with both of those settings I get "BOOTMGR IS MISSING press ctrl+alt+del to restart"
[10:18] <theadmin> Hm, is it possible to disable shutdown via GNOME completely so that it only eats "sudo poweroff"/"sudo reboot"?
[10:18] <theadmin> Avocadobride: Windows?
[10:18] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: That's why os-prober didn't detect any windows bootloader then. For whatever reason, you don't have one right now.
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  i seem to recall ubuntu-twean and some other tweaking tool having some security options like that. but it may not be the same
[10:19] <Avocadobride> theadmin: yeah, trying to get grub to work
[10:19] <bongko> @theadmin : i will try.. thank
[10:19] <theadmin> Avocadobride: Do the "BOOTMGR" and "NTDETECT.COM" exist on Windows partitions?
[10:19] <Avocadobride> theadmin: no idea
[10:19] <Jordan_U> Avocadobride: You'll need to fix that from a Windows install CD.
[10:19] <Avocadobride> theadmin: I have no idea
[10:19] <theadmin> Avocadobride: Check... :/
[10:20] <odinmytr> has anyone figured out how to get an encrypted hard drive to unlock from initramfs successfully in 10.04?
[10:20] <Avocadobride> theadmin: I dont know what they are
[10:20] <theadmin> Avocadobride: Those are 2 files in the root directory of windows partition
[10:20] <Avocadobride> odinmytr: Brute force it with a supercomputer for 2 years =P
[10:20] <Beyecixramd> is there a way to make your webpages not show the source code to visitors? (like making binaries, but for browsers)
[10:20] <RyR88> theadmin, hey during the update it says the module "Bluetooth" is being removed, is ubuntu still supporting bluetooth? But through a different program?
[10:21] <theadmin> RyR88: Yeah
[10:21] <odinmytr> Avocadobride, that is funny
[10:21] <Avocadobride> theadmin: so these files should be in My windows C:/ drive?
[10:21] <theadmin> Beyecixramd: Question is unrelated. But answer is imo obvious: NO
[10:21] <RyR88> theadmin, cool thanks
[10:21] <Avocadobride> theadmin: C: / changed to C:/
[10:22] <theadmin> Avocadobride: Yeah, theoretically
[10:22] <Avocadobride> theadmin: nope not there
[10:22] <platzhirsch> hey how can my cursor move word-wise and not character-wise in console?
[10:22] <Beyecixramd> theadmin: no, it's not obvious. I mean, it's weird Microsoft didn't do anything similar, like in IE or so...
[10:22] <funkey> hi i installed ubuntu live on a usb stick
[10:22] <theadmin> Avocadobride: ...A busted install then
[10:22] <kerozene> in apt.conf.d there's a file called 00norecommends that contains the setting I need to enable, uncommented. how do I enable that file or where should I put the setting?
[10:22] <funkey> how can i deinstall it?
[10:22] <funkey> can i deinstall it without loss of data on the space?
[10:22] <Avocadobride> funkey: so ubuntu is a flash drive?
[10:22] <Avocadobride> funkey: or did you install it on your hard drive?
[10:22] <funkey> yes Avocadobride
[10:22] <Jordan_U> Beyecixramd: It's called ActiveX and it's the spawn of satan.
[10:23] <funkey> flash Avocadobride
[10:23] <theadmin> Jordan_U: It's not "the spawn of satan", IE itself is.
[10:23] <Avocadobride> funkey: so what data are you afraid of losing?
[10:23] <Beyecixramd> Jordan_U: I KNEW IT
[10:23] <theadmin> Jordan_U: And ActiveX is a part of it
[10:23] <Jordan_U> theadmin: No, I.E. is satan :)
[10:23] <kerozene> peeps, I don't want apparmor and exim to install with my mysql-server. any idea how to enable the 'norecommends' setting for aptitude installs?
[10:23] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Wrong, Windows is that.
[10:23] <funkey> i installed it on the flash drive to install ubuntu on boot on the hard drive
[10:23] <platzhirsch> how do I move cursor in terminal per word and not per character?
[10:24] <theadmin> kerozene: --no-install-recommends
[10:24] <Beyecixramd> theadmin: wrong, Microsoft is satan (who gives more :D)
[10:24] <kerozene> I mean in config
[10:24] <theadmin> kerozene: hmm... I think they had an article on that, but can't remember where
[10:24] <funkey> Avocadobride the problem is, that i dont have that much space free so that i can just backup all datas and then just format the flash drive
[10:24] <Avocadobride> Jordan_U: IE is not satan, its more of a retarded bloated horse corpse, its not inherintly evil
[10:24] <theadmin> Avocadobride: ROFL
[10:24] <kerozene> I can't see any mention of this 00norecommends file on the web
[10:24] <kerozene> could my vps provider have made it?
[10:24] <Avocadobride> funkey: I am having a little bit of trouble understanding you
[10:25] <funkey> Avocadobride actually my problem is, that i want NTFS on the flash drive, but i think it doesnt work when ubutnu is installed on it right?
[10:25] <Avocadobride> funkey: is there an ubuntu help forum or IRC in your native language?
[10:25] <Avocadobride> funkey: you should be formatting your flash drive to FAT32, not ntfs
[10:25] <funkey> yeah it is formated to FAT32
[10:26] <Avocadobride> funkey: that is good
[10:26] <funkey> but thats my problem, because i have to unrar a file above 4 gb
[10:26] <Avocadobride> funkey: so you have less than 4GB of Hard drive space to use as temp space for winrar?
[10:26] <theadmin> kerozene: Found! If you want to avoid this for specific packages,  use apt-get --no-install-recommends; if you  want to make this permanent, set APT::Install-Recommends "false";  in /etc/apt/apt.conf. Be aware that this may  result in missing features in some programs.
[10:26] <kerozene> theadmin: thanks for that flag anyway, it helps
[10:26] <funkey> i tried lots of things, for example the command convert k: /FS NTFS on windows, but its not working
[10:26] <kerozene> aha, ok great
[10:27] <Avocadobride> funkey: is english your first language?
[10:27] <funkey> Avocadobride i actually need 8 gb free right?
[10:27] <funkey> no lol ^^
[10:27] <Avocadobride> funkey: you might be better off going to a different language Ubuntu help
[10:27] <W-Man> Hi everyone !
[10:27] <Avocadobride> funkey: what do you speak mainly?
[10:28] <funkey> i have to move my .rar files on another space and then extract it that means i need 8 gb
[10:28] <kerozene> weird, I assumed any files in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d would be applied but it doesn't seem to work that way
[10:28] <Avocadobride> funkey: what is your first language
[10:28] <funkey> i joined the right channel now Avocadobride
[10:28] <Avocadobride> funkey: ok good thanks
[10:28] <Avocadobride> funkey: good luck!
[10:28] <W-Man> I need some help with css
[10:28]  * wildbat dances~
[10:29] <kerozene> cascading stylesheets? that's on the other side of town..
[10:29] <bazhang> W-Man, tried #css ?
[10:29] <wildbat> W-Man, this is a ubuntu channel....~
[10:29] <theadmin> kerozene: "town"? I'd say it's totally another country. On another continent, as a matter of fact.
[10:30] <kerozene> hehe
[10:30] <wildbat> lol~ isn't it across the other galaxy ?
[10:30] <kerozene> or on a map that describes how such a continent might appear
[10:30] <W-Man> Bazhang,I can't talk in the main channel
[10:30] <theadmin> wildbat: Meh, it's still on the computer planet.
[10:30] <Avocadobride> kerozene: wildbat: because this is totally got to do with fixing your computers.... =P
[10:31] <bazhang> W-Man, are you registered and identified?
[10:31] <W-Man> Yes,I am now
[10:31] <bazhang> then you can talk there
[10:31] <wildbat> CSS is more likely you break my PC xD evil thing ;p
[10:31] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[10:32] <theadmin> bazhang: +500. Let's stop this offtopic nonsense.
[10:32] <Avocadobride> theadmin: awww
[10:32] <funkey> Avocadobride no one seems active there
[10:32] <Avocadobride> theadmin: are you actually the admin?
[10:32] <theadmin> Avocadobride: Uh, nope
[10:32] <kerozene> sorry, offtopic
[10:32] <Avocadobride> funkey: okay I will try and help you
[10:33] <Avocadobride> funkey: it is a bit hard though
[10:33] <funkey> thank you :)
[10:33] <funkey> i will try my best
[10:33] <wildbat> what happen to funkey ? @v@?
[10:33] <theadmin> Avocadobride: Admins are elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, and nhandler. (sorry for all the highlights)
[10:33] <funkey> ok i will tell you the problem again
[10:34] <Avocadobride> funkey needs help and his english isnt that good, but the other language  IRC is empty
[10:34] <theadmin> ...coulda pm'ed :/
[10:34] <marienz> theadmin: yes.
[10:34] <funkey> i actually just want to extract a 4 gb file on my flash drive, but that doesnt work because its a FAT32 file system
[10:34] <funkey> and i cant just convert it, because ubuntu live is installed on it
[10:34] <Beyecixramd> funkey: go with ext2!
[10:35] <Beyecixramd> funkey: ..lol
[10:35] <funkey> you mean the programm ext2 ?
[10:35] <Avocadobride> funkey: so you want to put a 4GB file on your flash drive?
[10:35] <Avocadobride> funkey: ext2 is a file system formeat
[10:35] <Viking667> works if Ubuntu has to read it.
[10:35] <Viking667> Won't work if Windows has to read it
[10:36] <Avocadobride> funkey: like FAT or ntfs, ext2 is one that windows cant use though
[10:36] <Beyecixramd> Viking667: wrong: there's an ext2 driver
[10:36] <wildbat> funkey, you install a Live on USB~ so? live don't have any presonal data so just convert to ntfs and redo the live.
[10:36] <soreau> Viking667: There are ext drivers for windows
[10:36] <Avocadobride> beyecixramd: but it sucks...
[10:36] <Viking667> there is, but it's not suggested by Microsoft.
[10:36] <Viking667> there are TWO that I know of
[10:36] <Viking667> and a non-driver version too.
[10:36] <Avocadobride> 3 that I know of
[10:36] <Beyecixramd> Viking667: neither Open Office, Pidgin or Firefox are ;)
[10:36] <Avocadobride> and only one that works
[10:36] <funkey> Avocadobride no i dont want, i want to acces with linux and windows, that means ext2 is not the right format
[10:36] <Viking667> Beyecixramd: hm? can you explain?
[10:36] <soreau> Viking667: Who cares what MS suggests?
[10:37] <Beyecixramd> what soreaujust said
[10:37] <Avocadobride> funkey: so use FAT
[10:37] <theadmin> Beyecixramd: Actually, in Win7 they let you choose any browser
[10:37] <Viking667> people that need to read that drive with a windows system.
[10:37] <funkey> Avocadobride the file is already on the drive but i cant extract the file because its above 4gb
[10:37] <Beyecixramd> theadmin: after  a demand :)
[10:37] <Viking667> Avocadobride: he can't, FAT32 doesn't support larger than 2Gb files
[10:37] <funkey> and winrar says you have to change file system to NTFS
[10:37] <wildbat> funkey, don't your computer have a Harddrive?
[10:37] <funkey> yea
[10:37] <Avocadobride> funkey: oh hay...
[10:37] <funkey> 4 gb left
[10:37] <theadmin> Viking667: not 2gb, 4gb.
[10:37] <Viking667> ufff.
[10:38] <Viking667> theadmin: when did they raise the limit?
[10:38] <Viking667> it's been 2Gb right up until early versions of XP
[10:38] <funkey> i need 8 gb because i will have to move the .rar files and then extract it
[10:38] <Beyecixramd> Viking667: after the EU told them that was a monopoly
[10:38] <Beyecixramd> Viking667: and after Microsoft payed lots of $$$$$
[10:38] <Avocadobride> funkey: use ext2 and get a windows driver
[10:38] <soreau> funkey: So what is the problem with extracting the file to your hard drive and then copying it to your usb stick?
[10:38] <Avocadobride> funkey: you can make windows read ext2
[10:39] <funkey> ok it seems pretty complicated right? then its maybe the best just to make enough space free on the hard drive
[10:39] <Avocadobride> yeah
[10:39] <funkey> and move to the hard drive and extract there
[10:39] <funkey> i only was a bit suspicious because you read on google that formating from FAT to NTFS is just 1 command
[10:39] <theadmin> Making windows read ext2 is like making Linux read encrypted NTFS.
[10:39] <wildbat> funkey, >.> y you have to move them , just extract to harddrive . thou you have to get your usb to ntfs to hold back the file . so y not just go ahead to convert your usb to ntfs?
[10:39] <funkey> ok
[10:40] <Avocadobride> funkey: I have to go now, sorry I could not be of more help
[10:40] <Avocadobride> theadmin: how?
[10:40] <theadmin> Avocadobride: how what.
[10:40] <Beyecixramd> theadmin: errr... the ext2 driver works fairly well...
[10:40] <Viking667> theadmin: hm?
[10:40] <Avocadobride> theadmin: why is it like trying to get linux to read encrypted ntfs?
[10:40] <soreau> funkey: fat32 and ntfs are MS file systems. When using linux, you want to use ext* file systems since they are native to the OS
[10:40] <funkey> Avocadobride thank you
[10:40] <Beyecixramd> theadmin: ext3 works worse, and no support for ext4, but i said ext2
[10:41] <Viking667> only thing ext2 lacks from ext3 is journalling.
[10:41] <funkey> yeah, but why should you prefer ext2 from fat ?
[10:41] <Viking667> and perhaps a couple of other ext3/4 related flags
[10:41] <Beyecixramd> Viking667: which is not needed for flash drivers
[10:41] <Beyecixramd> drives*
[10:41] <funkey> fat is both linux and windows, ext2 only linux
[10:41] <Beyecixramd> funkey: filesize limit :)
[10:41] <Beyecixramd> and it's free and open source, FAT is not, and it's patented
[10:42] <funkey> all right
[10:42] <HinHin> hey guys, how do i get ubuntu to use a new ethernet card?
[10:42] <wildbat> if you do linux with the usb 100% of time yes ext2 ~ but that not the case funkey have
[10:42] <Beyecixramd> funkey: and again, there's an ext2 driver for windows
[10:42] <HinHin> via command only... :\ using Ubuntu server
[10:42] <Viking667> well,Windows will read a ext2 on flash if the right device driver is installed...
[10:42] <theadmin> Beyecixramd: encrypted NTFS is also read FAIRLY well, but SLOW.
[10:42] <psidrum> how do you automount an extra HD?
[10:42] <kerozene> theadmin: I copied the fragment to /etc/apt/apt.conf but install mysql-server still gives a bloated list of packages compared to --no-install-recommends
[10:42] <theadmin> Beyecixramd: My point.
[10:42] <wildbat> i stick with ntfs with my usb.
[10:42] <Viking667> but trying to write to that drive... yeesh.
[10:42] <Bodsda> !fstab > psidrum
[10:42] <Beyecixramd> wildbat: EXT2 IN WINDOWS, for god's sake
[10:43] <Beyecixramd> wildbat: lol ntfs
[10:43] <imjustmatthew> HinHin: you mean to get an IP address with ubuntu server on a new card?
[10:43] <kerozene> (fragment = setting) copied the existing file and renamed as the config file so I know there
[10:43] <kerozene> s no typo
[10:43] <HinHin> imjustmatthew, well when i ifconfig
[10:43] <HinHin> i don't get eth0
[10:43] <wildbat> Beyecixramd, ya if every windows machines have ext2 ~ but that not the case ~ what if you have a file you wanna share with your friends.
[10:44] <HinHin> when i lspci | grep ethernet
[10:44] <HinHin> the ethernet card is there
[10:44] <theadmin> wildbat: You copy it over to a fat/vfat/ntfs device
[10:44] <imjustmatthew> HinHin: is it listed when you run  "ifconfig -a" as root?
[10:44] <wildbat> theadmin, exactly ~
[10:45] <Bodsda> fat32 is probably the most useful if your gonna be using it on other (non *nix) machines
[10:45] <HinHin> imjustmatthew, o.O i see eth3!
[10:45] <HinHin> o.0... i feel like such a noob
[10:45] <imjustmatthew> HinHin: on server you usually need to setup the interface explicitly by editing /etc/networks/interfaces
[10:45] <kerozene> theadmin: do I need to do something to flush the conf changes?
[10:45] <theadmin> kerozene: I dunno, maybe apt-get update or something
[10:45] <kerozene> did that
[10:45] <HinHin> imjustmatthew, thanks so much man ;)
[10:46] <imjustmatthew> HinHin: you probably want DHCP (home network?) the man page for interfaces talks about it
[10:46] <imjustmatthew> HinHin: np
[10:46] <HinHin> nah need to set a static IP
[10:46] <theadmin> kerozene: Well, this is what I'm readin' http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004#Recommended%20packages%20installed%20by%20default
[10:46] <olimpico> What's the default applet foe sound control in Ubuntu, somehow I have none in my panel
[10:47] <theadmin> olimpico: It's a part of Indicator Applet
[10:47] <olimpico> Something like Kmix under Kubuntu,
[10:47] <kerozene> theadmin: it says '(this change was made in 8.10) but I'm running 8.04 :)
[10:47] <theadmin> kerozene: uuuh o_O
[10:47] <theadmin> kerozene: You never told me
[10:47] <theadmin> kerozene: No idea then
[10:48] <jekill> ident jeklinux jekubintu
[10:48] <Kamalino> \hi all,, is it possible to install VMWARE WORKSTATION on ubuntu SERVER (not desktop)? ??
[10:48] <kerozene> i think they must be wrong about when it was introduced, because the flag works
[10:48] <azc> How can I specify that an app on the Main Menu should launch with root privs?  I tried to edit the properties of it and add 'sudo' before the command, but it didn't do anything.
[10:48] <theadmin> Kamalino: Graphical apps don't go on servers, if it's GUI-less might of work
[10:48] <Kamalino> hmm
[10:48] <jekill> ident jeklinux jekubuntu
[10:48] <Kamalino> ok
[10:48] <theadmin> azc: "gksu command"
[10:49] <imjustmatthew> Kamalino: unless VMware prevents it you can install the necessary packages
[10:49] <azc> Thank you, theadmin.
[10:49] <wang> hello
[10:49] <olimpico> theadmin, thanks a lot!
[10:49] <wang> smb 无法访问
[10:49] <azc> theadmin, confirmed, that has done it, thanks again.
[10:50] <wildbat> !cn
[10:50] <wang> 有中国人吗
[10:50] <theadmin> azc: No problem
[10:50] <wildbat> 沒有
[10:50] <kerozene> still can't figure out why an mta would be listed as a de facto dependency of an rdbms
[10:50] <theadmin> wang is a known flooder, he keeps doing this now and then... shall we call the ops?
[10:50] <kerozene> crazy debian
[10:51] <wildbat> theadmin, wang is surname in china ~ may be not the same person ~ but we will see
[10:51] <theadmin> wildbat: Oh he/she left
[10:52] <wildbat> theadmin, nice ^^
[10:52] <fatman1683> Hi, anyone familiar with installing Ubuntu over PXE using Tftpd32?
[10:52] <Viking667> me.
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> !install
[10:52] <theadmin> Is there any ftp server software in repos?
[10:52] <Viking667> ... hang on, what's tftpd32?
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  several i imagine
[10:53] <fatman1683> Windows server software
[10:53] <c4|um4y00> how will i be able to download the 9.10 desktop edition of ubuntu? am going back.. my dell latitude d505 keeps crashing on 10.04...
[10:53] <fatman1683> the PXE ROM connects to it to download the files
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> !download
[10:53] <wang> 不好玩亚
[10:53] <SwedeMike> !cn | wang
[10:53] <wang> download
[10:53] <giantpune> hey guys.  is there a similar command to windows' "ipconfig"  in ubuntu?  im trying to figure out what to type into the file to set a static IP address
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> giantpune:  ifconfig
[10:54] <SwedeMike> giantpune: as I said in the other channel, "ip -4 a l"
[10:54] <dancek> Kamalino, if you want to run vmware on a server, take a look at VMWare Server. It's free at least for Windows, and you can run the vm on a server somewhere and just connect to it with a browser.
[10:54] <wang> thank you
[10:54] <Viking667> if you can get the ISO onto a USB drive with usb-creator, you can stick vmlinuz and initrd.lz from the live image into the tftpd directory as it asks, then start up the dhcp server and the tftp boot, start the target machine, put the usb drive into the machine, get the machine to boot to pxe
[10:54] <giantpune> what is the broadcast ip SwedeMike ?
[10:54] <theadmin> wang: If you want to download ubuntu, go to http://get.ubuntu.com
[10:55] <theadmin> err
[10:55] <wang> i know
[10:55] <theadmin> download.ubuntu.com - changed it
[10:55] <SwedeMike> giantpune: "ifconfig" as the other person said will tell you that as well. I calculate it myself.
[10:55] <fatman1683> Viking667: I don't have a USB drive, or I'd have installed it that way =(
[10:55] <Viking667> ah.
[10:55] <Viking667> I was one step ahead of you today then.
[10:55] <fatman1683> Heh, yes, quite
[10:55] <theadmin> wang: also check http://www.ubuntu.org.cn/ which is the chinese Ubuntu site
[10:55] <Viking667> then that rather forestalls what I was going to ask next.
[10:55] <Mrokii> hello. Does somebody in here use the "DasKeyboard Ultimate" with Ubuntu?
[10:56] <Viking667> as in, how the heck were you going to shovel the ISO over pxe?
[10:56] <fatman1683> Sorry to steal your thunder.
[10:56] <SwedeMike> c4|um4y00: look for the mirrors, it'll still have the old images.
[10:56] <nke> im trying to execute an sdl file, specifically, nexuiz, but 10.04 keeps opening it as a text file. what am I doing wrong?
[10:56] <Viking667> What is .sdl?
[10:56] <c4|um4y00> thanks SwedeMike
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> nke:  what file and exactly what are you running, try via command line also
[10:56] <nke> well actually its "-sdl"
[10:56] <ehsantux> Hi my friends
[10:56] <nke> not ".sdl"
[10:56] <ehsantux> I have a problem with ubuntu 10.04
[10:56] <Viking667> ...?  sa it's    blah-sdl   ?
[10:57] <nke> what?
[10:57] <wildbat> !ask| ehsantux
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> nke:  that proberly means its using the sdl lib. not a 'sdl' file
[10:57] <Viking667> the filename?   something-sdl   ?
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> !find nexuiz
[10:57] <nke> Dr_Willis, how do I run it?
[10:57] <Cube``> i got this bug, i just changed the window controls to the right (in 10.04), and now i have this huge white box somehow appearing in my top panel right next to the logout button?
[10:57] <ehsantux> it's the graphic problem
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> nke:  where did it come from? a single file? an archive?   normally one does   ./commandtorun
[10:57] <dostokhan> hello :)
[10:57] <Viking667> nke: what's the name of that file, for starters?
[10:57] <ehsantux> in ubuntu boot up process
[10:58] <nke> its nexuiz Dr_Willis
[10:58] <azc> On Windows I had a little app called DupeLocator. I could run it against one or more folders and it would tell me of any duplicate files and offer to delete either one. Anyone know of a similar tool on Ubuntu?
[10:58] <ehsantux> nothing to be viewed
[10:58] <dostokhan> i'm having trouble networking two ubuntu pc
[10:58] <Viking667> and so it has:  nexuiz-sdl  ? right?
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> nke:  yes.. you said that.. but whats teh FILES NAME you downloaded from where?
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> !games
[10:58] <ehsantux> ubuntu ups but I can't see any text or ubuntu logo
[10:59] <ehsantux> until it runs gdm
[10:59] <ehsantux> I have display view
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> !find nexuiz
[10:59] <theadmin> azc: KleanSweep is the only one I can thing of right now
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> !info nexuiz
[10:59] <azc> theadmin, thank you again, I'll check it out.
[10:59] <nke> ok Dr_Willis, Viking667, its actually a ".sh" file
[10:59] <ehsantux> but I don't have any view in tty's
[10:59] <ehsantux> could you please help me?
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> nke:  you do relize the game is avail in the package manager?  You can isntall it with sudo apt-get install nexuiz
[11:00] <wertwertgfhjrer> how can see the running processes in terminal?
[11:00] <nke> Dr_Willis, that's an old version
[11:00] <azc> Ah, theadmin, it's for KDE, will it also work in Gnome?
[11:00] <psidrum> how to automatically mount an extra hd?
[11:00] <nke> Dr_Willis, do i need to do chmod +x?
[11:00] <theadmin> azc: Yeah, will just pull some KDE libraries with it
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> nke:   run the installer with './whatever.sh'   or  sh ./whatever.sh
[11:00] <azc> theadmin, excellent, you're a mine of useful information.
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> nke:  or chmod +x it and try ./whatever.sh
[11:00] <wildbat> !fstab  | psidrum
[11:00] <ehsantux> is there anybody help me
[11:01] <ehsantux> ?
[11:01] <rosco_y> What package do I need to install to get svn?
[11:01] <wildbat> !patience | ehsantux
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> !find svn
[11:01] <nke> Dr_Willis, did i mention I'm accessing it via samba? how do you do that from samba?
[11:01] <ehsantux> tanx
[11:01] <theadmin> azc: Thanks.
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> nke:  copy it someplwce you can run it from the shell.
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> rosco_y:  if you type 'svn' it should tell you the package name
[11:02] <wertwertgfhjrer> ehsantux, so gnome works?
[11:02] <ehsantux> yes
[11:02] <ehsantux> it works
[11:02] <wertwertgfhjrer> so what else do you want
[11:03] <rosco_y> Dr_Willis: Thanks!
[11:03] <fatman1683> Viking667: Is there an obvious reason why the PXE installer wouldn't be able to find the .C32 file?
[11:03] <ehsantux> I don't have any view in tty terminals
[11:03] <fatman1683> Viking667: It's definitely in the folder where the installer appears to be looking
[11:03] <Viking667> not sure, sorry. I've never used tftpd32
[11:03] <ehsantux> they just black
[11:03] <fatman1683> =/ ok, thanks
[11:04] <wertwertgfhjrer> ehsantux, sry cant help
[11:04] <anoe> hi there, i've got a asus pc901 netbook with 9" screen. I was using eeepan to get a virtual desktop bigger than the actual one. That worked great for jaunty and karmic, but stopped working in lucid.
[11:04] <theadmin> What does PXE mean anyway? Powerful X Enchancement? But that's nonsense
[11:04] <omfarka> may i install KDE games to the gnome platform?
[11:04] <wildbat> ehsantux, so ctrl alt f1 = black screen?
[11:04] <theadmin> omfarka: Yeah
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> omfarka:  you can.
[11:04] <fatman1683> theadmin: preboot execution environment
[11:04] <theadmin> fatman1683: Oh.
[11:04] <anoe> so, my question is, do u know a way to get a virtual screen bigger than the actual screen in lucid_
[11:04] <fatman1683> allows you to run code on the BIOS before booting to the OS
[11:05] <ehsantux> wildbat,yes
[11:05] <ehsantux> wildbat,they are running in sleep mode
[11:06] <antonio_> hi, who have taken the lpi exam?
[11:07] <oCean_> antonio_: this chan is for tech support only
[11:07] <antonio_> ah sorry
[11:09] <wildbat> ehsantux, try get the lastest display driver~ i only know it is display issue ~ don't know much.
[11:10] <ehsantux> wildbat,tanx but I have just get it,but not useful
[11:10] <Mrokii> Or does anybody use the "Customizer 104/105"-keyboard with Ubuntu?
[11:11] <papasan> hello
[11:13] <wildbat> ehsantux, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-April/031980.html, changing the tty resolution may fix that ~
[11:14] <ehsantux> wildbat,tanx alot
[11:14] <oCean_> ehsantux: are there actually running processes for the tty{1..6} ? ps -ef | grep tty
[11:14] <Axident> morgen scayn
[11:15] <lyrae> does anyone know how to make myself invisible in xchat?
[11:15] <ehsantux> wildbat,yes
[11:15] <papasan> hello
[11:15] <bp0> lyrae, not possible
[11:15] <fatman1683> Anyone familiar with Tftpd32?
[11:15] <lyrae> bp0, f***
[11:16] <wildbat> ehsantux, hmm ?
[11:16] <herris> hi
[11:16] <ehsantux> wildbat,I don't have xorg.conf in my /etc/X11 directory
[11:16] <bp0> lyrae, you could change your nick
[11:16] <wildbat> ehsantux, those setting are in grub
[11:16] <ehsantux> wildbat,Do you know where is that file in new ubuntu
[11:16] <lyrae> bp0, aw man
[11:16] <psidrum> you could leave the room
[11:17] <powerinside> I was in the apt-get upgrade process when there was a replacement to see the difference between new and old file, how to get back to apt-get now?
[11:17] <lyrae> psidrum, you clearly dont understand :)\
[11:17] <bazhang> lyrae, this has nothing to do with Ubuntu support.
[11:17] <lyrae> bazhang, well, it's xchat. somewhat related
[11:17] <bazhang> #xchat lyrae
[11:18] <lyrae> -somewhat-
[11:18] <wildbat> ehsantux, /etc/grub/grub.cfg
[11:18] <nke> Dr_Willis, are you here?
[11:18] <linxeh> *loosely*
[11:18] <linxeh> tenuous at best
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> hmmm?
[11:18] <bazhang> lyrae, there or #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[11:18] <lyrae> ok
[11:18] <ehsantux> wildbat,but I do that and set vga=792 and vga=771 in kernel parameters
[11:19] <nke> Dr_Willis, http://tinypic.com/r/10gkx2t/5
[11:19] <ehsantux> wildbat,but don't useful
[11:19] <powerinside> how to get back to apt-get in console.. my terminal is now in "showing file difference" thingy
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> nke:  and that is ?
[11:19] <ehsantux> wildbat,shall I set console=tty0 quiet too?
[11:19] <herris> im new to every thing can i ask you all some ?s
[11:19] <nke> Dr_Willis, that's what the file looks like
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> powerinside:  perhaps 'q' if its showing cfg file sidfferances
[11:19] <hmw> !hi | herris
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> nke:  what file?  assume i have the attention span of a newt.
[11:20] <hmw> !patience > herris
[11:20] <powerinside> Dr_Willis: Thanks! it worked!
[11:20] <nke> Dr_Willis, in 9.10 i used to be able to execute the game by cicking any of those icons that has the name "nexuiz linux" in it
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> nke:  you install the 'sh' file via running it. and it should ask some questions and install to some dir. You then should be able to run the game by clicking on th eproper file in the isntaled game dir.
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> powerinside:  great... err.. what did? :)
[11:21] <wildbat> ehsantux, may be this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8024427
[11:21] <nke> then he leavesw
[11:21] <ewp> how do i create a shell script to restart a certain cmd (in my case it's awn aka. avant-window-navigator)... i tried pkill awn; sleep 1; awn but it doesn't work
[11:22] <nke> can anyone help me run a game
[11:22] <hmw> ewp: find the reason, why the kill didnt work. The command looked right.
[11:23] <nke> "there is no application installed for executible files" <---- how do you fix that??
[11:23] <ewp> pkill awn - runs perfect in a regular terminal and alt-f2 (gnome)
[11:23] <nke> "there is no application installed for executible files" <---- how do you fix that??
[11:23] <fatman1683> Anyone familiar with Tftpd32?
[11:23] <ehsantux> wildbat,tanx anyhow
[11:24] <Viking667> yup. I got the computer back...
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> fatman1683:  thats a windows FTP server isent it?
[11:24] <Viking667> yes, the error shows up for ten seconds, then continues on.
[11:24] <hmw> ewp: hmm. Perhaps try to make a longer sleep, 10 seconds or something clearly longer, than manually doing it requires. Perhaps it is just too quick?
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> nke:  try running it from the termional
[11:24] <fatman1683> Dr_Willis: Kind of, I'm trying to use it to install Ubuntu via PXE
[11:25] <Viking667> fatman1683: how much memory?
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> fatman1683:  i recall seeing guides ages ago on seting up a pxe setup with it..  but not tried it in the last 2+ years
[11:25] <fatman1683> On what?
[11:25] <researcher1> what is the command to extract the contents of a file?
[11:25] <Viking667> on the machine you're installing on
[11:25] <fatman1683> Dr_Willis: Are there any better tools for installing over PXE from a Windows box?
[11:25] <Viking667> researcher1: depends. Is it zip? tar.gz? tar.lz?
[11:25] <fatman1683> Viking667: 512, I think
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> fatman1683:  no idea. I dont bother with net installs.
[11:25] <researcher1> its a .txt file
[11:25] <fatman1683> =(
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> researcher1:  a text file is not an archive.. load it into an editor
[11:26] <researcher1> Viking667: its a .txt file
[11:26] <Viking667> oh, yay. You're going to have so much fun.
[11:26] <Viking667> researcher1: do like the Dr sad
[11:26] <Viking667> said
[11:26] <hmw> researcher1: There are different ones. Easies is the GUI extractor (doubleclick), unzip, unrar, 7zip are shell commands
[11:26] <researcher1> Dr_Willis: I want to extract mobile numbers from a texzt file
[11:27] <Viking667> researcher1: that's hardly a normal Linux archive.
[11:27] <kerozene> herris: yes
[11:27] <hmw> oh "extract" *grins* researcher1 - learn how to use grep and sed perhaps
[11:27] <Viking667> ahhh. I think I found the command that's screwing grub over.
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> researcher1:  its a text file..    use tools to alter it/filter it  or use a text editor.
[11:27] <hmw> not sed, awk, researcher1
[11:27] <researcher1> hmw: Is grep the command to extract emails and mobiles from a text file?
[11:28] <kerozene> lol
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> grep searches for and prints out patterns from files..
[11:28] <nke> Dr_Willis, Nothing seems to work
[11:28] <Viking667> if  terminal_output gfxterm; then true; else terminal gfxterm; fi   ...
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> sed and awk do similer tasks
[11:28] <Viking667> that's the grub.conf excerpt
[11:28] <hmw> researcher1 grep is an all purpose "filter" program. Try this: ls /etc/* | grep ab
[11:28] <herris> im new to this type of chat but i have linux on order and just want to learn more about it
[11:28] <anthony> hi to all
[11:28] <researcher1> hmw: ok.thanks
[11:28] <kerozene> if you're handy with regex sed is easier imo
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> !info nexuiz
[11:29] <Slart> herris: if you have any questions just ask them
[11:29] <anthony> hi i have a problem. how can you make password protect your home folder. pls help me
[11:29] <Slart> herris: there is no queue system here.. people just ask their questions and hopefully someone answers them
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> nke:  from what im seeing on the nexuiz web site 2.5.2 IS the latest version
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> nke:  and thats the same version thats in the repos
[11:30] <herris> how long did it take you all to get the basics down
[11:30] <nke> Dr_Willis, they come out with a new version just about every other 2 weeks. what am i supposed to do then>
[11:31] <Slart> herris: coming from a windows networking/is support background it took a couple of weeks for the basics, half a year to get comfortable with it all
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> nke:  the version on the web site i am downloading NOW is the same as the one in the repos. No idea about your every 2 weeks version
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> unless its little trivial version changes
[11:31] <Slart> herris: but that, of course, depends on how you define "basics" =)
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> nke:  where did you get that nexuiz.sh from?
[11:31] <respire> lucid is out?
[11:31] <Slart> respire: yes
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> respire:  has been for some time
[11:32] <respire> yay
[11:32] <herris> anyone use wine to game
[11:32] <Slart> respire: since 2 weeks or so
[11:32] <nke> Dr_Willis, its in the main folder when you install it
[11:32] <respire> is it good or should i stick with karmic?
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> nke:  what file did you download exactly to get the game?
[11:32] <Slart> herris: yes.. there is even a separate channel for specific wine questions.. type /join #winehq  to get there
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> nke:  and what did you do to the file.
[11:32] <Slart> respire: works for me
[11:32] <oCean_> herris: there is this nice pocketguide on ubuntu. Some specifics may be outdated, since it was written for 8.04, but still it covers the basics: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html
[11:33] <dostokhan> hello again :)
[11:33] <misreckoning> hello everybody! I've got a problem here, screen got locked during 10.04 installation from LiveCD, what is the username/password to unlock it?
[11:33] <dostokhan> i've been trying to connect two ubuntu pcs for over 4 hours
[11:33] <Slart> herris: you can also check out http://appdb.winehq.org , it has a list of all the games that people have tried with wine and how well it worked
[11:33] <dostokhan> it's not working and i'm losing hope
[11:33] <nke> Dr_Willis, http://downloads.sourceforge.net/nexuiz/nexuiz-252.zip
[11:33] <Slart> misreckoning: tried username:ubuntu , password blank?
[11:34] <nke> i didn't do anything to the file
[11:34] <nke> i just clicked on it
[11:34] <Slart> dostokhan: how are you connecting them?
[11:34] <sash_> i need the mainline kernel for my netbook. is there a way to add somethin in /etc/apt/sources.list so i can update it via apt?
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> nke:  so you unzip the archive, cd to the directory where its at and run  nexuiz.sh from what im seeing.  (chmod +x whatever.sh , ./whatever.sh)
[11:34] <misreckoning> Slart: will try
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> nke:  5 more min for my download to finish for the zip
[11:35] <misreckoning> Slart: works, thanks!
[11:35] <dostokhan> it'
[11:35] <Slart> misreckoning: you're welcome
[11:35] <aatifh> Have anybody tried Red5 on ubuntu 10.04?
[11:35] <dostokhan> Slart,  it's a wired connection
[11:35] <Slart> dostokhan: crossed ethernet cable?
[11:35] <dostokhan> Slart, yep
[11:36] <Slart> dostokhan: you've setup static ip's on both computers?
[11:36] <nke> Dr_Willis, it keeps telling me "permission denied" when I try that.
[11:36] <dostokhan> Slart, yes. i've done that
[11:36] <dostokhan> Slart, i tried almost all the settings in the network tab
[11:36] <Slart> dostokhan: and it still doesn't work? ping doesn't work?
[11:37] <anthony> hi i have a problem. how can you make password protect your home folder. pls help me
[11:37] <dostokhan> Slart,  surprisingly ping works
[11:37] <Slart> dostokhan: oh.. that's good.. so ping works.. what doesn't work?
[11:37] <dostokhan> Slart, places>network
[11:38] <dostokhan> then i cann't see my shares
[11:38] <dostokhan> Slart, it sasys unable to retrieve share list
[11:38] <herris> lol i think irc chat is mor confusing then anthing ive incountered before lol
[11:39] <Slart> dostokhan: I've never really used the places, network thingy myself.. I'm not sure what protocols it uses
[11:39] <Viking667> herris: sheesh. You've obviously never been to parliament or government debates then, have you
[11:40] <Slart> herris: hopefully your irc-client will highlight lines with your nickname in it.. that makes it a bit easier
[11:40]  * Viking667 blinks
[11:40] <SmarttViking> hi
[11:40] <Viking667> SmarttViking: hm.
[11:40] <SmarttViking> where am i :P
[11:40] <Viking667> in-sane?
[11:40] <anodesni> Help, is it normal that my cpu temps are 10 degrees Celtius higher with open source ATI drivers than with proprietary? (52 vs 43 degrees)
[11:40] <SmarttViking> Lots of vikings here, thats good :;)
[11:40] <dostokhan> Slart,  then can you please tell me how to easily share folders?
[11:41] <dostokhan> Slart, i really have no idea . in windows it's so easy
[11:41] <Viking667> heh. I don't call "two" lots.
[11:41] <nke> Dr_Willis, how's it going with it?
[11:41] <misc--> hello - I'm trying to blacklist usbhid in lucid lyx... I've added 'blacklist usbhid' in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but it's still showing up when I reboot
[11:41] <Slart> dostokhan: mm.. is this going to be a permanent connection or is it just to transfer files this one time?
[11:41] <nke> Viking667, you misplaced your quotation marks ;)
[11:42] <Viking667> I did?
[11:42] <Viking667> no...
[11:42] <SmarttViking> "
[11:42] <SmarttViking> "
[11:42] <oCean_> Viking667: SmarttViking - this is tech support, stay on topic please
[11:42] <SmarttViking> damn
[11:42] <Viking667> in my vocab, two != lots
[11:42] <Slart> herris: you're running some kind of web-client?
[11:42] <dostokhan> Slart,  kind of permanent
[11:42] <herris> yah
[11:43] <dostokhan> Slart,  i just need a local area network kind of connection
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> nke:  unpacking archive now
[11:43] <Slart> dostokhan: hmm.. I've never setup samba to work between two ubuntu machines.. only ubuntu to windows
[11:44] <SmarttViking> ocean: Hi, i am new to irc and i want to chat about linux and such in general in an active room, do you have any tips? :)
[11:44] <linxeh> SmarttViking: use ubuntu-offtopic for that kind of thing
[11:44] <oCean_> SmarttViking: you're welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:44] <SmarttViking> Ty i will :P
[11:44] <dostokhan> Slart,  well samba is kind of weired. i've also tried connecting ubuntu to windows seven with no luck
[11:44] <herris> just running irc threw firefox lol
[11:44] <respire> hi
[11:44] <SmarttViking> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:44] <SmarttViking> O.o
[11:45] <linxeh> ;-)
[11:45] <linxeh> you need the /
[11:45] <Slart> dostokhan: let me start up my laptop and I'll see if I get the same results there
[11:45] <dostokhan> Slart, so there are no easy way to share files/folders between ubuntu machines
[11:45] <respire> i need to download the ubundu DVD in smaller chunks as the proxy uses signed 32 bit integers
[11:45] <Viking667> anyone here up to diagnosing a weird grub2 error that pops up on my xubuntu system?
[11:45] <dostokhan> Slart, ok
[11:45] <respire> so like 0x7fffffff
[11:45] <respire> max file size
[11:45] <respire> how do i do that?
[11:45] <linxeh> respire: do you need the DVD ?
[11:45] <respire> yes
[11:45] <Slart> dostokhan: well.. there are lots of ways.. I use nfs myself.. but let me try the samba way between two lucid machines.. see if it works
[11:46] <oCean_> dostokhan: there's NFS
[11:46] <linxeh> respire: you probably need to download it to a remote machine, run split on it, and then download from there
[11:46] <respire> i installed form CDs before it cause dproblems
[11:46] <linxeh> respire: does the machine you are installing it on not have an internet connection ?
[11:46] <respire> linxeh, it probably wont no
[11:47] <linxeh> ok, so you want the DVD for the extra packages ?
[11:47] <respire> and if it does it will be of very low quality
[11:47] <respire> yeah i want the lot
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> nke:  unpack game.. (unp nexuiz-252.zip)  cd to game dir, (cd Nexuiz) , run game (./nexuiz-linux-glx.sh)       Ran fine here.
[11:47] <respire> on the DVD as much as possibles :)
[11:47] <linxeh> respire: well its not all of the packages
[11:47] <SirRedTooth> inkscape is pi--- me off
[11:47] <respire> of course
[11:47] <dostokhan> oCean_, well i've googled and i've seen lots of ways and none of them seems uncomplecated.
[11:47] <linxeh> respire: another option you have is to download the CD and mirror the ubuntu package repository
[11:47] <respire> i have to download it with internet explorer too
[11:47] <linxeh> respire: oh boy :)
[11:47] <naveen519> how to configure squid server ?
[11:47] <Viking667> ugh
[11:48] <respire> yeah i know it caused me headace last year when i did it with karmic
[11:48] <chilli0> Hello people. I know this may make no scence but yeh lol. Is there anyway I can hack/change what any program is getting from /dev/video0
[11:48] <nke> Dr_Willis, keeps telling me "PERMISSION DENIED" :(
[11:48] <chilli0> So it will stream from a video.
[11:48] <olimpico> Sorry, I'm a kde user, I just isntalled ubuntu and I don't find many things. Could someone tell me how to make GNOME not to lock the desktop after some time I'm away?
[11:48] <chilli0> Or add a new video device that is just a video.
[11:48] <oCean_> dostokhan: for NFS? NFS is quite straightforward: install server, export your shared folders and mount them on the client.
[11:48] <linxeh> respire: is there someone that can download the images for you? is this some kind of lame government system ?
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> nke:  then you are doing somthing wrong.   is the game in your home dir> You are running it from a terminal?
[11:48] <respire> yeah
[11:48] <respire> im downloading it in a library
[11:48] <nke> Dr_Willis, its on my desktop
[11:48] <morbo1993> Good morning. I'm runnin LXDE and Terminal (and probably some other apps i'm not missing atm) isn't showing in my Panel under Accessories, anyone know what i can do?
[11:48] <respire> my own internet connection is rubbsih
[11:49] <olimpico> Ohhhhhhhh, I just foud it, it's on the screensaver!
[11:49] <linxeh> respire: if you are in the UK I'll post you a DVD with it on
[11:49] <dostokhan> oCean_, let me check
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> nke:  do you did a 'cd ~/Desktop/Nexiz' then ran it with what command exactly?
[11:49] <nke> yes
[11:49] <respire> that's very very kind of you and i may take you up on that offer but i'd like to do this today if i can
[11:49]  * Viking667 departs
[11:49] <Slart> dostokhan: ok, so you shared a folder.. it asked you to install the windows sharing service or someting like that, right?
[11:49] <linxeh> respire: where abouts are you? I'm in Cheltenham
[11:50] <respire> isn't there some sort of splitter
[11:50] <respire> south east
[11:50] <linxeh> there are splitters yes, but not any really that will do what you want online that I know of
[11:50] <respire> not that near to you
[11:50] <respire> ok brb i will have quick look myself
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> nke:  all i did was download the zip. and ran the following 3 commands. --> $ unp nexuiz-252.zip  ; cd Nexuiz/ ; ./nexuiz-linux-glx.sh
[11:50] <linxeh> trying to think if there is a way I can do it
[11:51] <nke> unp?
[11:51] <linxeh> Dr_Willis: I might be able to knock up a script to do it on my webhost, but it will take a little while
[11:51] <dostokhan> Slart,  net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. The connection was refused. Maybe smbd is not running.
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[11:52] <dostokhan> Slart, omg what is this now
[11:52] <nke> Dr_Willis, i unpacked it with archive manager
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> nke:  shouldent matter. check to see who owns the files (should be your user) and that they are executable.
[11:52] <nke> Dr_Willis, what is this "PERMISSION DENIED" stuff?
[11:52] <respire> or anyone know a free shell provider with generous bandwidth :)
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> nke:  permission issues perhaps.  try extractint it with 'unp'
[11:52] <respire> i can download there, split and send to myself
[11:53] <nke> Dr_Willis, i copied it from another computer via samba
[11:53] <respire> looks like dreamhost does it
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> nke:  copied what exactly? the zip? or the game dir?
[11:53] <respire> and i even get a free trial :D
[11:53] <respire> yay
[11:53] <nke> the game dir
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> nke:  thats the issue then
[11:54] <nke> Dr_Willis, what do I do
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> copy archive over.. uncompress it..  run it.. like the commands i showed.
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> your file permissions/ownership are all messed up
[11:54] <nke> I don't have the damn archive
[11:54] <linxeh> respire: cool; can you use ssh then ?
[11:54] <nke> sorry
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> chown the game files then to be owned by your user. Samba made them owned by someone else most likely
[11:55] <nke> Dr_Willis, what do  I do to make them owned by me?
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> nke:  see what 'ls -l' says in the game dir. I bet they are owned by someone other then your user.
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> !chown | nke
[11:55] <Slart> dostokhan: ok.. I just tried sharing a folder between two lucid machines.. using the right click menu, "sharing options" method.. worked nicely
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> nke:  you use the chown command.
[11:55] <oCean_> dostokhan: ok, *very* basic example here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/433791/
[11:56] <tomek_> siema
[11:56] <Satorisanja> Guten Tag
[11:56] <tomek_> jest ktoś z POLSKI?
[11:56] <dostokhan> Slart,  i've lucid in my laptop and 9.10 in my desktop
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> nke:  in my case. i would cd into the Game Dir. and ' sudo chown -R  willis.willis *  '
[11:56] <nke> Dr_Willis, chown: missing operand after `nexuiz-linux-sdl.sh'
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> nke:  do that IN the nexuz game dir
[11:56] <oCean_> !pl | tomek_
[11:57] <Slart> dostokhan: hmm.. I wonder if that's what's causing it..
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> and use the proper user name
[11:57] <dostokhan> Slart, i think i've messed up a lot of settings and thinking of reinstalling lucid to both machines
[11:57] <Slart> dostokhan: ok
[11:57] <Satorisanja> Spricht hier jemand deutsch?
[11:57] <oCean_> !de | Satorisanja
[11:58] <nke> Dr_Willis, it already shows me as the owner of all files in nexuiz
[11:58] <Satorisanja> danke thanks
[11:58] <dostokhan> oCean_,  can you explain line 6 and 7
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> nke:  ls -l should show  stuff like.. -rwxrwxr-x 1 willis willis    2104 2009-10-01 02:53 nexuiz-linux-glx.sh*
[11:59] <dostokhan> Slart, well thank you very much. :)
[11:59] <oCean_> dostokhan: in the example i have 2 machines. 1 is the server, "exporting" or "sharing" the directory dir1 - the other machine I call the "client" - it is the one that mounts the shared directory
[11:59] <nke> Dr_Willis, I don't know how to use this chown command
[12:00] <Slart> dostokhan: well... sorry I couldn't help you more.. hope it works better after a reinstall
[12:00] <vistakiller1> is there a programme like digikam in gnome?
[12:00] <oCean_> dostokhan: the NFS server can be 1 single machine, you can export/share directories to many clients
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> nke:  in my case. i would cd into the Game Dir. and ' sudo chown -R  willis.willis *  '    <--------------------------------------- I gave You an example
[12:00] <dostokhan> Slart,  no problem brother. :)
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> sudo chown -R  $USER.$USER *                 (might work also)
[12:01] <dostokhan> oCean_,  but i need both machines to share simultaniously. is that possible?
[12:02] <oCean_> dostokhan: share "both ways" ? You could make both machines run an NFS server
[12:02] <misc--> it's amazing.. I can't blacklist usbhid! Even if I remove the kernel module, it *still* loads it upon reboot... one touch mother.
[12:02] <misc--> tough even
[12:03] <dostokhan> oCean_, then i've to install nfs-kernel-server to both machines and edit /etc/exports as necessary. is that it?
[12:04] <nke> Dr_Willis, it's still saying permission denied
[12:04] <fatman1683> Alright I finally got PXE working, now the installer is hanging
[12:04] <fatman1683> It loads the two files
[12:04] <oCean_> dostokhan: that's it. I bet you'll find some more elaborated howto's on ubuntu forums or wiki
[12:04] <fatman1683> says 'ready'
[12:04] <fatman1683> then goes to a black screen and stays there
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> nke:   You also need to chown the Nexuiz dir to be owned by yourself
[12:04] <nke> do i put user@host as the user?
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> sudo chown -R  $USER.$USER /path/to/Nexuiz
[12:05] <pixhelado> someone knows a tutorial to configure the graphics tablet ?
[12:05] <dostokhan> oCean_,  i've seen cif,ftp etc ways of sharing i cann't remember them anymore.
[12:06] <dostokhan> oCean_, i'll so much tired. i'll try nfs tomorrow with a fresh install.
[12:06] <oCean_> dostokhan: go for it! :)
[12:08] <fredrik_> Hi! I installed Ubuntu to my netbook the other day, but I screwed up in the partitioning. I've booted from LiveUSB to try to fix it in gparted, but that'd just screwed my system more. Since its pretty much is a fresh install, I figured the easiest thing is to reinstall.
[12:08] <nke> Dr_Willis, thanks very much, but this seems like a futile endeavor
[12:09] <fredrik_> I haven't done any configuring, but I've installed a lot of apps
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> nke:  redownload the zip then
[12:09] <nke> ok
[12:09] <nke> thanks
[12:09] <Zorge> anyone else who uses empathy experiences it closing on them when they are not even at PC
[12:09] <fredrik_> Are there any way to generate a list of installed apps, so I can just apt-get install them again after a fresh install?
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> nke:  the version in the repos seem to be the exact same version
[12:09] <dbum> pixhelado: I just plugged in my wacom tablet and it worked just fine.... don't know how to configure it though.... tracks in pen mode and presure sensitive in Gimp
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> but i only said that they were the same version like 5 times.....
[12:10] <oCean_> !clone | fredrik_
[12:10] <cloud> chat of ubuntu in spanish?
[12:10] <oCean_> !es | cloud
[12:10] <fredrik_> oCean_: thanks! :)
[12:11] <fredrik_> !automate
[12:11] <cloud> ubottu> thanks friend XD
[12:11] <olimpico> has anyone installed ubuntu in a wii?
[12:14] <nonamegod> can any of you verify if irc server irc.azzurra.org servers are online? i have connection issues...
[12:18] <Slart> nonamegod: it seems azzurra.org isn't registered.. typo?
[12:18] <Warrior`> Hey does Linux/Ubuntu executable files are of elf format
[12:18] <Warrior`> ??
[12:18] <Slart> Warrior`: yes
[12:18] <nonamegod> talkin bout irc server.... irc.azzurra.org Slart
[12:19] <messi> hei, does someone know the advantages of using Jboss instead of Apache?
[12:19] <kklitgaard> JOIN
[12:19] <kklitgaard> JOIN #ubuntu-dk
[12:20] <oCean_> messi: maybe in #jboss?
[12:20] <Slart> nonamegod: yes.. and I'm saying that azzurra.org isn't registered... pending renewal or deletion.. without azzurra.org there is no irc.azzurra.org or www.azzurra.org .. subdomains and such
[12:20] <nonamegod> i was connected there just before my last reboot, Slart ...some minute ago :O
[12:20] <nonamegod> such a strange thing :O
[12:21] <messi> I'm afraid if I ask there everybody will say JBoss is the best,jeje
[12:21] <messi> I'll try
[12:21] <messi> thnx
[12:21] <moker> qq
[12:21] <Slart> nonamegod: check the whois information.. you might have been using cached info .. perhaps it expired just recently
[12:22] <nonamegod> cached? i was talkin to people :O
[12:22] <Slart> nonamegod: if it helps I can still resolve irc.azzurra.org .. but I'm guessing that will die shortly too
[12:23] <nonamegod> i cannot resolve it
[12:23] <nonamegod> thank you
[12:23] <nonamegod> so i know it's my problem :)
[12:24] <oCean_> nonamegod: probably the domainname is already removed from your nameserver. The domain is not active. Expiration Date:09-May-2011 16:50:04 UTC, Last Updated On:15-May-2010 08:02:01 UTC
[12:25] <oCean_> nonamegod: so they might be working on it..
[12:25] <nonamegod> :O
[12:25] <nonamegod> i hope
[12:25] <nonamegod> thanks oCean_
[12:25]  * nonamegod will keep on tryin' :O
[12:25] <cloud_> XDD
[12:25] <cloud_> hi friends XDDDDD
[12:26] <Slart> friends don't let friends use that many chins on a smiley
[12:27]  * nonamegod tries to reconnect
[12:27] <nonamegod> thank you
[12:29] <bro> hi
[12:29] <theadmin> hi bro
[12:29] <theadmin> lol
[12:29] <rocket16> !hi | bro
[12:30] <craigbass1976> anyone noticing general borkage when printing images and pdfs to network printers?
[12:31] <craigbass1976> since the lucid upgrade
[12:31] <chandrageetha> i have recently upgraded to ubuntu 10.04, now it faces crash now n then. what to do
[12:32] <Lurner> I've been trying to set up file sharing between Ubuntu and Linux.
[12:32] <Lurner> I've installed Samaba, Personal File Sharing is installed but only gives the mystery message of
[12:32] <Lurner> "this feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on your system" but it does say which packages need to be installed.
[12:32] <Lurner> I guessed and installed Samaba, but that didn't help.
[12:32] <Lurner> When I go into the "Network' area, I see the workgroup. I see the computers but when I go to click on one I get the message
[12:32] <FloodBot2> Lurner: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:32] <Lurner> "Unable to mount location Failed to retrieve share list from server"
[12:32] <chandrageetha> how much memory needed at a minimum for ubuntu 10.04?
[12:33] <Lurner> I've been trying to set up file sharing between Ubuntu and Linux.
[12:33] <Lurner> I've installed Samaba, Personal File Sharing is installed but only gives the mystery message of
[12:33] <Lurner> "this feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on your system" but it does say which packages need to be installed.
[12:33] <Lurner> I guessed and installed Samaba, but that didn't help.
[12:33] <oCean_> Lurner: no need to repeat at this point
[12:33] <Lurner> When I go into the "Network' area, I see the workgroup. I see the computers but when I go to click on one I get the message
[12:33] <Lurner> "Unable to mount location Failed to retrieve share list from server"
[12:33] <poop23> Yay
[12:33] <rdz> hi all. i am trying to build a module for 2.6.31-10-rt kernel. my problem is that the Module.symvers file seems to have different versions from the ones actually used in package. when compiling and loading the module, i get a message in dmesg: [ 2341.101224] gspca_ov534: disagrees about version of symbol module_layout . how can i fix that problem?
[12:33] <poop23> okay my screen broke again i dunno why
[12:34] <desso> hi.
[12:34] <poop23> how do i reinstall [ official ] nvidia driver manually
[12:34] <Lurner> sorry about repeating .. I thought the bot had killed it as too long
[12:34] <craigbass1976> Lurner, what happens when you sudo apt-get install samba ?
[12:34] <bro> you guys know any good system-wide alsa equalizer?
[12:34] <rdz> poop23, what do you mean by 'official' and 'manually'?
[12:34] <om26er> does facial recognition work in ubuntu by some way?
[12:34] <poop23> rdz: Official: The least unsupported. Manually: apt-get.
[12:35] <Lurner> I haven't tried it that way, I tried it through the Software Centre
[12:36] <Lurner> I tried it and it's grabbing some more packages.
[12:36] <Mrokii> poop23:  I think it should be found via Administration/Hardware
[12:36] <rdz> poop23, i didn't do it with aptitude, but with 'proprietary drivers' dialog, but here i have installed the package: nvidia-current
[12:36] <Lurner> Hopefully this way will fix the problem.
[12:36] <messi> Hei, when would you use JBoss instead of Apache?
[12:36] <nonamegod> cul8r
[12:36] <craigbass1976> Lurner, good, then you were missing something.  I'm rebooting -- brb
[12:37] <Lurner> thanks
[12:37] <rdz> poop23, so try: sudo aptitude install nvidia-current
[12:37] <desso> I am trying to logout a user (gnome) over a network with ssh and xhost. First I install "OpenSSH" and set "xhost +" (i know its not secure). Then I connect with ssh and login as a user. Then I write "gnome-screensaver-command --lock" but the shell returns "** Message: Failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed." Have someone an i
[12:38] <desso> (8 in a network) in a internet shop from the point of sale system
[12:38] <skx> Why is Ubuntu using some archaic mplayer? MPlayer SVN-r1.0~rc3+svn20090426-4.4.3
[12:38] <desso> If i write "xhost" in the ssh, i become "xhost:  unable to open display """ ruturned
[12:38] <DonScott> join #phoronix
[12:38] <DonScott> oops
[12:39] <rdz> desso, try: $ DISPLAY=:0 xhost
[12:39] <omar> alguien
[12:39] <omar> me ayuda
[12:39] <omar> necesito cambiar mi mac adrees
[12:39] <kitche> skx because it's not archaic?
[12:39] <rdz> kitche, it actually is, isn't it?
[12:40] <azc> !es | omar
[12:40] <desso> rdz on the "client" pc or over the ssh?
[12:40] <poop23> Mrokii Yeah that one fails to start and i have 800x600
[12:40] <skx> kitche, it's a year old, smplayer tells me it's archaic (though it may not have been the exact word used in the warning)
[12:40] <poop23> guess i'll try again tho
[12:40] <poop23> does installing new kernel modules require a complete reboot?
[12:40] <rdz> desso, over ssh: if you're connected over ssh, you need to export the DISPLAY variable, so that the graphical programm knows, to which display to draw
[12:41] <rdz> poop23, no, you can simply do: $ modprobe kernelmodule
[12:41] <erUSUL> poop23: no ypu can try to load the modules « modprobe modulename »
[12:41] <chandrageetha> hi, my system at times goes on with blank screen some messages and blinks with some white bars on monitor, don't know what happens! it goes like that for long. what could be problem like?
[12:42] <desso> rdz, i wouldnt see the client-destop on my desktop. i would only logout his gnome over the ssh.
[12:42] <craigbass1976> What happened to Lurner, is he fixed?
[12:44] <nerxgas> how do i list connected bluetooth devices....is there something like lsusb?
[12:45] <rdz> desso, i don't know how to logout a single user from a terminal session, but you could login to the machine and do: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:45] <rdz> nerxgas, hcitool scan
[12:45] <airtonix> nerxgas, bluetooth devices fall under either pci or usb.
[12:46] <cwe_moetz> hhhh
[12:46] <airtonix> nerxgas, and hcitool scann will only work if you bluetooth devices are up and running with drivers and so forth.
[12:47] <rdz> nerxgas, the command i posted scans for bluetooth devices in the air, such as phones and mice etc.. if you want to scan attached bluetooth adapter on your box, try: lsusb , or: lspci
[12:47] <abhinav> HI .. I have an old HP where I
[12:47] <SirRedTooth> Is it possible to run two different instances of LAMP server on ubuntu?
[12:48] <abhinav> HI .. I have an old HP where I'm running Lucid. The display monitor / driver combo is not working too well with the prop drivers, but I was able to get the desired resolution via xrandr. What is the best place to put the xrandr commands so that they kick in automatically ?
[12:48] <nerxgas> rdz, thanks
[12:48] <chandler243> Hello, I was wondering how to/ where to get the BERYL environment for ubuntu 10.04
[12:48] <abhinav> I tried putting it in /etc/gdm/Init/Defaults before initctl, but that did not work
[12:49] <erUSUL> !beryl
[12:49] <abhinav> chandler243: beryl == compiz, no ?
[12:49] <sebner> abhinav: 2-3 years ago, yes
[12:49] <craigbass1976> There are some dell lasers that use hp drivers; anyone familiar with that?
[12:49] <sebner> abhinav: beryl hasn't been actively developed since years
[12:49] <craigbass1976> Oh wait, there's another linux box up here; I'll look at that
[12:50] <abhinav> sebner: chandler243 asked the question :)
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> chandler243:  beryl has been dead for some time now. :) compiz is beryl reborn :)
[12:50] <resno> hello again
[12:50] <abhinav> sebner: if you could answer *my* question reg xrandr, that would be nice ;)
[12:50] <beefcube> i'm running debian squeeze, can someone explain why I'm receiving /etc/update-motd.d/ no such file found errors when logging in? I've searched on this and it seems to be something related to the update-motd package, but this is seems ubuntu specific
[12:51] <erUSUL> beefcube: #debian
[12:51] <chandler243> Cool! Thank you very much!
[12:51] <aaaoooaaa> hey guys, i need a media player with graphic equalizer, amarok doesnt work for me, what are my options?
[12:51] <beefcube> erUSUL: read fail
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> You are running debian.. how can it be ubuntu specific?>
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> or else you missed some facts in the question.
[12:52] <desso> rdz, thanks
[12:52] <airtonix> Dr_Willis, /ebil-grin
[12:52] <craigbass1976> aaaoooaaa, vlc has one
[12:52] <erUSUL> beefcube: i'm running debian squeeze, <<<< how may i have read that?
[12:53] <craigbass1976> It doesnt' have all the blinky lights that xmms used to, but it does the job
[12:53] <beefcube> I think I got this from either an ubuntu or debian package, I'm not sure, it doesn't matter, I just want to remove it, can someone tell me how to safely do that?
[12:53] <airtonix> craigbass1976, sad panda, but.... audacious2 is a clone of xmms except using gtk2 widgets....
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> beefcube:  you are installing ubuntu packages on debian? is that you are saying?
[12:54] <beefcube> apt-cache policy update-motd
[12:54] <beefcube> W: Unable to locate package update-motd
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> beefcube:  perhaps make a /etc/update-motd.d/ dir ?
[12:54] <beefcube> i didn't install this
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> !info update-motd
[12:54] <beefcube> i've never installed an ubuntu specific package to my knowledge
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> !find 99-footer
[12:56] <quidnunc> Can anyone tell me how to use makejail? How do I actually run after creating the configuration script?
[12:56] <om26er> does any one know if ~/.gnupg would be enough to backup my gpgkey?
[12:56] <craigbass1976> aaaoooaaa, ok, audacious2 has eq as well.
[12:56] <aaaoooaaa> craigbass1976: yeah but it doesnt do anything for me when i mess with it
[12:57] <erUSUL> om26er: yes
[12:57] <om26er> erUSUL, thanks :)
[12:57] <craigbass1976> aaaoooaaa, do you have fairly decent speakers?
[12:57] <aaaoooaaa> craigbass1976: lolz , i got headphones and yes they sound good on vlc when i mess with the eq.
[12:57] <craigbass1976> aaaoooaaa, you can crank up the bass all you want, but cheesy desktop speakers aren't going to play those frequencies
[12:58] <craigbass1976> ok
[12:58] <aaaoooaaa> craigbass1976: I can tell cause im learning how to play the bass and I use it to cut out all the HFreq stuff so that I can listen to the basslines
[12:58] <craigbass1976> aaaoooaaa, I havne't messed with the audacious eq, just instlaled it and saw that there was one.
[12:58] <soreau> will the !grub2 instructions to restore the boot loader work the same for both 9.10 and 10.04?
[12:58] <aaaoooaaa> craigbass1976: but the audacious wont do anything
[12:59]  * Dr_Willis adds  'fortune | cowsay' to his MOTD
[12:59] <craigbass1976> aaaoooaaa, you oughtn't do that.  I play bass too, and the higher frequencies are part of the sound.  Add two frequencies together and they produce other frequencies--listen to it all as a whole because as a bassist you've got to figure out how to fit into the big sound picture.
[12:59] <craigbass1976> Sorry all, that was a rant...
[13:01] <MACscr> does the windows installer for ubuntu just create a image file for storage or something?
[13:01] <macquetero-ppc> hi guys
[13:01] <bro> MACscr, only if you install wubi
[13:02] <airtonix> aaaoooaaa, have you used xmmms or winamp before? you have to enable the equaliser
[13:02] <MACscr> bro: that's what im looking at. Was thinking about installing it that way to play around with it, figured would be better than trying a live cd
[13:02] <aaaoooaaa> airtonix: yes the little enable thing has been pushed many times
[13:02] <airtonix> aaaoooaaa, then you need to play around with the sound config in preferences
[13:03] <macquetero-ppc> this is my kernel I wanna Know Linux ubuntu 2.6.31-20-powerpc #58 <--------( what this number mean? )
[13:03] <aaaoooaaa> airtonix: well i didnt really know what to meddle with, thats why i wanted to know if there are alternatives
[13:03] <bro> MACscr, yes, you can install ubuntu through wubi just like installing any other software. and it will run well, with just a bit of performance penalty on disc writing
[13:03] <airtonix> aaaoooaaa, rhythmbox also has an equaliser plugin
[13:03] <kaegee> hi, does anyone know how to bypass the auto load setting? ubuntu auto loads XBMC on start up and returns to the login screen when I exit XBMC. I can't access the system
[13:04] <aaaoooaaa> airtonix: is it built in? or do i have to dl it? cause i checked and i dont remember seeing an eq
[13:04] <chandrageetha> how could i recover my problem? system crash every now and then after installation of 10.04
[13:04] <onlyzb> 请问有人讲中文吗？
[13:04] <resno> kaegee: i would suggest you ask in #xbmc they may know better
[13:04] <LjL> !zh | onlyzb
[13:04] <onlyzb> 谢谢
[13:05] <airtonix> MACscr, you'll also need to make sure that your NTFS partition (on which the wubi virtual hardrive will live) is always healthy...
[13:05] <Hidden> onlyzb: 中文到中文频道
[13:05] <skx> utf is amazing
[13:05] <onlyzb> 好的，谢谢
[13:05] <Hidden> onlyzb: /join #ubuntu-cn
[13:05] <kaegee> resno: it is a setting in ubuntu (I can choose to auto load MythTV or another program, in this case XBMC)
[13:05] <airtonix> aaaoooaaa, its a python plugin you drop into ~/.config/rhythmbox/plugins
[13:05] <aaaoooaaa> airtonix: yeah just checked, the closest there is to an eq is something called replay gain
[13:06] <airtonix> aaaoooaaa, http://live.gnome.org/RhythmboxPlugins/ThirdParty
[13:07] <aaaoooaaa> airtonix: http://cs.helsinki.fi/u/ttokalli/rb-plugins/
[13:07] <aaaoooaaa> not found
[13:08] <DonScott> Listen has an equalizer but you have to install it
[13:08] <DonScott> it's a plugin
[13:08] <aaaoooaaa> airtonix: nvm the second link is loading
[13:09] <MACscr> airtonix: isn't it always important to keep drives healthy? =P
[13:09] <xv22> Hello... I don't have sunbird in the repository anymore, does anyone if there was a change?
[13:10] <luketheduke> Hi, I copied files to an NTFS drive in ubuntu 10.04. the parallel boot XP can't see them though.
[13:10] <airtonix> MACscr, i mean if you simply pull the power plug while using windows, then you wont be able to access the wubi install untill you fix the errors on the windows drive
[13:10] <xv22> thunderbird-lightning doesn't work (yet) because of my 64 bit Ubuntu 10.04
[13:10] <xv22> sunbird isn't available for install anymore
[13:10] <spitzi> Hi. Wow, LOTS of people in this channel !
[13:10] <xv22> so I don't have  a calendar now :(
[13:10] <airtonix> xv22, im pretty sure you have evolution
[13:10] <MACscr> airtonix: yeah, I would never use this type of storage for long term use anyway
[13:11] <xv22> Yes
[13:11] <xv22> but it's not really usable
[13:11] <airtonix> MACscr, i would just use unetbootblah to make a usb boot disk.
[13:11] <spitzi> I have an mpeg video, to which I want to add captions, then cuts into chunks for incorporating into a PowerPoint (yeah, <sigh>) presentation. Does Ubuntu come with simple tools for doing so ?
[13:11] <xv22> The Google calendar is shown but when I add new entry, it often doesnt work or crash
[13:11] <airtonix> xv22, i use it all the time
[13:12] <xv22> but you're right its at least a calendar
[13:12] <zetz> someone recommended I try "backintime" for a type of "system restore" option for ubuntu, but I don't get how you go back to a "restore point". Could anyone let me know?
[13:12] <Rewt`> anyone have any suggestions for usb keyboard freezing up in 10.4?
[13:13] <zetz> does anyone here know "back in time"?
[13:13] <krachny> spitzi: avidemux (can't handle captions but good for videos) or openshot
[13:13] <Rewt`> zetz: just the hewie lewis song
[13:14] <spitzi> krachny - must add captions.
[13:14] <zetz> Rewt`: could he help me go back to my restore point?
[13:14] <Rewt`> zetz: No, but Doc Brown might be of some assistance.
[13:14] <miracle2k> after updating the lucid, whenever I press certain keys or key combinations (e.g. F-keys, Ctrl+C), X seems to freeze for like a second or so, or anyway the mouse hangs for a moment. is this a known problem? is there a ticket? I don't seem to use the right keywords...
[13:14] <LjungmannL> Is there anyway to get gcc-4.5 in 10.04? A PPA or something ?
[13:15] <bro> can i use ithe compiz's rain effect as screensaver?
[13:16] <zetz> there's nothing on it in google
[13:16] <zetz> can anyone pls help
[13:17] <krachny> spitzi: avidemux can handle captions, just checked it
[13:17] <zetz> i guess everyone is in bed
[13:18] <pigor> hello
[13:18] <spitzi> krachny - cool, I'll give avidemux a shot.
[13:18] <krachny> spitzi: ah but its complicated
[13:20] <preved_medvedik2> Goodby!
[13:21] <preved_medvedik2> Goodby!
[13:21] <pigor> how can i change to the german chat ?
[13:21] <LjL> pigor: /join #ubuntu-de
[13:21] <pigor> thanks
[13:21] <spitzi> krachny - how is it complicated ?
[13:21] <zetz> anyone know how backintime works? there's no documentation for it
[13:22] <zetz> except difficult to understand debian documentation
[13:22] <Slart> zetz: it backups files.. anything special you're looking for?
[13:22] <indus> how to install a font in ubuntu graphically
[13:22] <krtek> Hi, all
[13:22] <Untouchab1e> Hi all.. having some issues. I had the latest Nvidia drivers installed from nvidia.com on my Ubuntu 9.10, then I upgraded to 10.04 and off course the nvidia graphics needed to be reconfigured but I figured I should install them from the hardware drivers thingie instead.
[13:22] <Hidden> kr
[13:22] <zetz> someone told me it could create a restore point
[13:22] <Slart> indus: drag it to ~/fonts
[13:22] <Untouchab1e> but it failed to install, so I reckoned I had to remove the nvidia drivers first, so I did a sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-*
[13:22] <Hidden> hi
[13:22] <Slart> zetz: hmm.. I haven't seen that functionality.. afaik it just backups files
[13:23] <krachny> spitzi: you'll need a vobsub or srt file. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNt6mEQ658s
[13:23] <Untouchab1e> but now I just get a black screen >_<
[13:23] <zetz> slart how can i create restore points in ubuntu?
[13:23] <Slart> zetz: I don't think you can
[13:23] <zetz> what can i do then??
[13:23] <Untouchab1e> Any ideas on what I can do?
[13:23] <soreau> Untouchab1e: To get back into X, use Driver vesa (instead of nvidia) in your xorg.conf file
[13:24] <Slart> zetz: what do you want to do? backup the system so you can go back in case something goes bad?
[13:24] <Untouchab1e> soreau: problem is that I dont get anything. After the initial Ubuntu loading screen (with the dots) the screen just goes black
[13:24] <airtonix> zetz, have you tried out timevault
[13:24] <indus> Slart: thanks ill try that
[13:24] <Untouchab1e> tried hitting ctrl+alt+f1, but nothing happens
[13:24] <zetz> Slart: exactly
[13:24] <zetz> airtonix: no, what is that?
[13:24] <soreau> Untouchab1e: You may have to boot into recovery mode
[13:25] <Slart> zetz: well. I guess the easiest way would be to just create an image of your entire root file system.. you might have to boot from a live cd to do that though
[13:25] <Untouchab1e> soreau: ok..
[13:25] <AmberJ> HEllo, I disabled lxdm yesterday on my ubuntu 10.04 box and thought of using .xinitrc+startx combo....but when I rebooted it refused to let me into a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+Fn didn't worked) :(
[13:25] <lyrae> how can i edit the default gtk theme? i don't see it under .themes
[13:25] <AmberJ> I tried getting into recovery mode and I noticed something weird....
[13:25] <krachny> spitzi: check jubler and avidemux, like here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl_8hk6otK8
[13:25] <AmberJ> If I select option "Drop to a root prompt"...IT prompts: "Enter root password (or press Ctrl-D to continue).... As soon as I press any key the prompt is redisplayed :(
[13:26] <AmberJ> Even Ctrl-D didn't worked
[13:26] <ed4> does anyone know the sleuthkit irc channel?
[13:26] <Untouchab1e> soreau: to get into recovery mode I just hit esc right? but nothing happens
[13:26] <zetz> Slart: did you hear me?
[13:26] <bazhang> ed4, /msg alis list *sleuthkit*
[13:26] <Slart> AmberJ: never seen that.. what version of ubuntu?
[13:26] <ed4> tx
[13:26] <Slart> zetz: last I heard from you was   "Slart: exactly"
[13:27] <AmberJ> It simply loops into "Enter root password (or press Ctrl-D to continue)..." prompt repetedly whenever I press any key...It never allows me to enter anything more than a character
[13:27] <Untouchab1e> fixed it with holding shift..
[13:27] <Untouchab1e> esc is legacy
[13:27] <soreau> Untouchab1e: You have to press esc right after your bios loads, then go into the grup menu select the recovery mode entry from the list
[13:27] <AmberJ> Slart, 10.04
[13:27] <soreau> ah
[13:27] <Untouchab1e> :)
[13:27] <jamil_1> Hi, I connect to internet through a proxy. Is there a way I could make the connection to proxy seemless. I mean to say that to each application it seems that I am connecting directly to internet rather than the proxy. This will save me changing settings for each application.
[13:27] <Untouchab1e> soreau: hmm.. still get a black screen :(
[13:27] <theadmin> jamil_1: Uh yes, System - Preferences - Network Proxying
[13:27] <AmberJ> It appears as if there is only one call to getchar() in there to accept root password :( , Slart
[13:28] <Slart> AmberJ: hmm.. I just used the recovery mode on my own system (to mess with my nvidia driver).. but it didn't ask for a root password.. have you installed something weird? is it the regular ubuntu?
[13:28] <soreau> Untouchab1e: I guess something else is wrong then. Does this same thing happen if you try a live cd?
[13:28] <bluegoon> Can ubuntu play Starcraft 1? :)
[13:28] <Untouchab1e> soreau: I doubt it, as Ive been running Ubuntu on there for years without problems..
[13:28] <theadmin> AmberJ: To stop it from asking the root password, run "sudo usermod -p '!' root"
[13:28] <Slart> bluegoon: check appdb.winehq.org
[13:28] <zetz> am i still here?
[13:28] <Untouchab1e> just after removing the nvidia drivers that this happened
[13:29] <AmberJ> Slart, Yes, it's regular, original, ubuntu 10.04 with all the updates installed .... I forgot to mention that I have enabled root account
[13:29] <bazhang> bluegoon, check the appdb and get help in #winehq
[13:29] <bluegoon> Slart, sweet will check it out
[13:29] <jamil_1> theadmin: no not through that route. Even software centre fail to authenticate to proxy. Similarly what if I want to use kde ?
[13:29] <Slart> AmberJ: oh.. you're on your own then.. I've never seen the need for a root password and it isn't supported here.. sorry
[13:29] <AmberJ> theadmin, I intentionally enabled root account and set a password for it
[13:29] <theadmin> AmberJ: Then enter that password :/
[13:30] <jamil_1> theadmin: I hve googled a bit and people have suggested to use squid but I am a newbie so squid is too much for me
[13:30] <Untouchab1e> ok, I managed to get into a prompt..
[13:30] <Untouchab1e> how do I revert to failsafe graphics?
[13:30] <nke> hey its zetz
[13:30] <Untouchab1e> so that I can install the nvidia drivers through Ubuntu?
[13:30] <nke> i got disconnected
[13:30] <theadmin> Untouchab1e: xinit... maybe
[13:30] <AmberJ> theadmin, When I try to, it accepts ONLY 1 CHAR and then redisplays the "Enter the root password (or press Ctrl-d)" prompt .....and this process simply continues
[13:30] <DonScott> anyone else have their Ubuntu 10.04 start up splash screen be the wrong resolution after installing the nVidia driver ?
[13:31] <theadmin> AmberJ: oh? Hm o_O
[13:31] <Slart> DonScott: yes
[13:31] <nke> someone was telling me... i think it was slart, that i could create a restore point somehow?
[13:31] <Guest54411> donscott- me as weel
[13:31] <Slart> DonScott: I just ignore it for now.. it was nice with the nouveau driver but with the nvidia binary driver it's very low res
[13:32] <AmberJ> theadmin, Should I report this or simply ignore and move on?
[13:32] <Geistkampfer> hi guys! I have a question. Can I make a live usb with UNetbootin using WUBI ISO?
[13:32] <Slart> nke: nope.. I don't think you can create a restore point.. you can backup files.. sure.. but nothing like the windows system restore stuff
[13:32] <theadmin> Geistkampfer: There is no such thing as "WUBI ISO"
[13:32] <AmberJ> because there is something really weird going on in there.... theadmin
[13:32] <nke> Slart, thats too bad :(
[13:32] <Geistkampfer> theadmin: aah.. so it's just ubuntu ISO
[13:33] <theadmin> AmberJ: I think it's a bug, most likely in "login" app, unusre which package does that belong to, likely coreutils
[13:33] <nke> Slart, what's the closest thing you can do?
[13:33] <theadmin> Geistkampfer: Yeah, we have a WUBI on the desktop Ubuntu ISO
[13:33] <Untouchab1e> I edited xorg.conf and changed driver to vesa
[13:33] <Untouchab1e> trying to boot up normally now
[13:33] <Geistkampfer> theadmin: ok thank you! :)
[13:33] <Slart> nke: backup of the entire root file system.. perhaps excluding some files to keep the size down
[13:33] <DarsVaeda> hi, how do i setup ubuntu so it will download AND install updates in background without bothering me, except when i need to do a restart?
[13:33] <Untouchab1e> doh.. still get the black screen on bootup
[13:34] <Slart> nke: I just backup /etc and my home folder.. with that I can get out of almost any problem with most of my stuff intact
[13:34] <Slart> nke: but it will take me a day or so to reinstall
[13:34] <bazhang> DarsVaeda, in lucid?
[13:34] <nke> Slart, install what?
[13:34] <DarsVaeda> yes
[13:35] <SealedWithAKiss> I have no audio output in Ubuntu 9.10, the problem isn't application specific. What could be wrong? I am using a Dell desktop, with my sound routed to the auxiliary input on my hi-fi. The hi-fi is working correctly. I have tried using my monitors built in speakers, and there is still no ouput. I suspect a faulty driver, how can I troubleshoot this problem?
[13:35] <bazhang> !info unattended-upgrades
[13:35] <Slart> nke: ubuntu.. if I do something really bad
[13:35] <DarsVaeda> you can check "download stuff" in the update manager
[13:35] <theadmin> DarsVaeda: try adding "apt-get update && apt-get --force-yes upgrade" to /etc/crontab
[13:35] <bazhang> theadmin, that's not the way to do it
[13:35] <theadmin> bazhang: Why not? Possible.
[13:35] <bazhang> theadmin, extremely ill-advised.
[13:36] <theadmin> DarsVaeda: Of course, if you're going this way you'll have to read up on how to form a cron line
[13:36] <DarsVaeda> i want all updates that the update manager points out, not just security ones
[13:37] <theadmin> bazhang: Well, it'll do nothing if there is no connection, but I can't see any other potential problem
[13:37] <ogen> my ubuntu  (AMD, 9.10) freezes: how much free memory do I need on my HD?  Can I defrag a drive in Ubuntu?  What's the equivalent of check/scan-disk in Ubuntu?
[13:37] <DarsVaeda> usually i do not know what they are for anyhow so i dont bother and install them all...
[13:37] <Slart> hmm.. where is the gconf settings stored on my system? somewhere in my home folder I assume?
[13:37] <theadmin> ubottu: info cron-apt | DarsVaeda
[13:37] <theadmin> ...bleh
[13:38] <veepee> how should I proceed if I want to install Windows 7 besides my Ubuntu partition solely for gaming purposes
[13:38] <veepee> I know it's easier to do Windows installed first and then Ubuntu
[13:38] <veepee> but still
[13:38] <danix> hola
[13:38] <theadmin> DarsVaeda: cron-apt (source: cron-apt): automatic update of packages using apt-get. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1 (lucid), package size 26 kB, installed size 220 kB
[13:38] <veepee> I'm planning to install it on the another hard drive
[13:38] <veepee> so whats the problem here
[13:38] <veepee> do I need to reinstall GRUB or something after windows?
[13:38] <theadmin> veepee: Most likely yes
[13:39] <bazhang> veepee, update it
[13:39] <actionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:39] <danix> alguien tiene un tablet pc?
[13:39] <chandrageetha> hello, am working at the system and so i can't continuously talk to u, sorry,
[13:39] <veepee> how to?
[13:39] <DarsVaeda> veepee: you can use the live-cd for that
[13:39] <danix> con Ubuntu claro!
[13:39] <theadmin> ubottu: es | danix
[13:39] <AmberJ> theadmin, So, I should report it, right?
[13:39] <danix> ok thankS!
[13:39] <theadmin> AmberJ: Yeah: ubuntu-bug coreutils
[13:39] <veepee> DarsVaeda, hmm
[13:40] <veepee> is it obligatory?
[13:40] <chandrageetha> while running some programs abruptly system crash happens. screen goes on blank
[13:40] <veepee> any other way?
[13:40] <MACscr> how much storage does a standard install of ubuntu need?
[13:40] <AmberJ> theadmin, something like this is happening: http://codepad.org/tGZCUiBo
[13:40] <veepee> I don't have my install cd available
[13:40] <theadmin> MACscr: well, about 10 gigs should be juuust fine
[13:40] <veepee> only 32-bit minimal install cd (my ubuntu is desktop 64bit)
[13:40] <theadmin> MACscr: It "needs" 4, AFAIR
[13:40] <MACscr> theadmin: poop, was hoping to try it out on a 4gb SSD drive I have
[13:40] <veepee> does it matyter
[13:40] <actionParsnip> MACscr: about 5Gb for / without swap
[13:40] <veepee> matter*
[13:40] <MACscr> ah, ok
[13:41] <actionParsnip> MACscr: will just squeeze in nice
[13:41] <chandrageetha> hello, ubottu, hear me, my system after installation of 10.04 goes on crashing every now n then monitor becomes blank and then blinks with some white bars, what to do?
[13:42] <theadmin> chandrageetha: Talking with ubottu is pointless, she's just a bot
[13:43] <actionParsnip> MACscr: compare that to the latest win OS + latest MS Office + burning + dvd playback and you are saving a tonne of space
[13:43] <jamil_1> theadmin: "she" how did you determine gender of ubottu :-D
[13:43] <Obituary> hi
[13:44] <theadmin> ubottu: gender | jamil_1
[13:44] <rdz> hi all. where is a good channels to ask about ubuntu kernel related matters?
[13:44] <bazhang> theadmin, /msg ubottu for silliness
[13:44] <theadmin> bazhang: well, he asked :D
[13:44] <actionParsnip> rdz: here or #kernel
[13:45] <rdz> actionParsnip, thanks
[13:45] <actionParsnip> jamil_1: ubottu is a female
[13:45] <nke> she ovulates?
[13:45] <bazhang> !ot
[13:46] <matrixx_> hi. i upgraded to lucid and since that the decorations (controlbars etc) are not shown anymore. i have to setup "normal effects" (using compiz) after every boot. but it will not remembered. any hints?
[13:47] <rdz> I would like to compile a patched module, but i cannot load the result, it complains. "[ 6061.780915] gspca_ov534: disagrees about version of symbol gspca_suspend" . It seems, that versions used in Module.symvers from  linux-rt-headers-2.6.31-10 are not the same as the ones in the kernel image (linux-image-2.6.31-10-rt)
[13:47] <rdz> How can that version issue be fixed?
[13:47] <SealedWithAKiss> By following the Ubuntu Audio troubleshooting guide I have discovered that I don't have the correct modules installed for my audio device. I have followed the steps to correct this and rebooted, however I still have no sound. Loss of sound occurred after installing some updates. Can anybody help?
[13:47] <actionParsnip> matrixx_: i'd ask in #compiz too
[13:48] <matrixx_> k
[13:48] <jamil_1> I hve read on net that squid can be used to have a local proxy so that you dont have to configure each application to use the proxy. Can any body help me to configure squid ? I dont want to use System>preference>network proxy route
[13:49] <jamil_1>  rdz: tried I suppose there is force switch while loading a module
[13:49] <NativeAngels> hello has anyone here used a sunfire v100
[13:50] <rdz> jamil_1, shall i just use that?.. ugly.. butmight work...
[13:50] <berry__> hi. I have a quick question: does Ubuntu 10.04 support an ACX (Texas Instruments) wireless card? Can't find any references to acx on my current installation.
[13:51] <Damascene> I don't know how transmission is accepting connection from another transmission but not from vuze on windows
[13:51] <rdz> jamil_1, doesn't help
[13:51] <Damascene> I keep getting connection timed out and refused
[13:51] <actionParsnip> berry__: what chip is it using?
[13:51] <berry__> actionParsnip: not sure, how do I find out?
[13:51] <actionParsnip> berry__: sudo lshw -C network
[13:52] <berry__> actionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/C4FSGTQj
[13:52] <actionParsnip> Damascene: check the windows config then (support is in ##windows)
[13:52] <Damascene> :S
[13:53] <Guest65349> hello
[13:53] <Damascene> its the firewall maybe blocking it
[13:53] <Finnish> I did a video with Openshot Video Editor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PukHqe3z920
[13:53] <bazhang> Finnish, that is suitable for #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:53] <mertin> anybody with arch experience? need a private chat
[13:53] <Finnish> Sorry
[13:54] <pallgone> berry__: is it listed in 'iwconfig' ?
[13:54] <bazhang> mertin, #arch
[13:54] <mertin> yes
[13:54] <mertin> but I want an objective view ;)
[13:54] <berry__> pallgone: no, it isn't.
[13:54] <jamil_1> rdz: can't say any thing
[13:54] <pallgone> berry__: nothing there so?
[13:54] <bazhang> mertin, that's the channel for arch support not here. #ubuntu-offtopic may have views though
[13:54] <mertin> everybody in #arch will be preaching
[13:54] <mertin> ok
[13:54] <mertin> thanks
[13:54] <bazhang> mertin, nonetheless its offtopic here thanks
[13:54] <pallgone> berry__: and 'ifconfig -a'?
[13:54] <berry__> pallgone: only lo and eth0.
[13:55] <berry__> pallgone: nope, it's not there. lspci tells me the card is recognized, but that's pretty much everything happening.
[13:55] <rdz> jamil_1, nevermind.. i guess, i am missing some part. some way to get a Module.symvers that is in sync with the kernel I am actually using
[13:55] <actionParsnip> berry__: looks like you gotta compile the driver
[13:56] <actionParsnip> berry__: you may have o recompile if you change kernel so keep the source handy
[13:56] <actionParsnip> berry__: http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8375606
[13:57] <actionParsnip> berry__: you may also need the firmware file tiacx100 in /lib/firmware
[13:57] <berry__> actionParsnip: thanks.
[13:58] <SealedWithAKiss> By following the Ubuntu Audio troubleshooting guide I have discovered that I don't have the correct modules installed for my audio device. I have followed the steps to correct this and rebooted, however I still have no sound. Loss of sound occurred after installing some updates. Can anybody help?
[13:58] <perlsyntax> i got a deb file with no error this time.:)
[14:01] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how to update my Ubuntu repo's to 10.04 with doig a upgrade?
[14:02] <actionParsnip> perlsyntax: you must use the official upgrade method
[14:02] <baba_b00ie> i would like to get into programming for linux. any idea if there is a visual basic like ide for linux/ubuntu ?
[14:02] <overmind> baba_b00ie: Why don't you try with Python?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas folks
[14:03] <baba_b00ie> i'm not a fan of python
[14:03] <actionParsnip> !info gambas-gb-vb
[14:03] <overmind> baba_b00ie: And bash?
[14:03] <actionParsnip> !find gambas
[14:03] <perlsyntax> i told you i can upgrade becuase of a hardware or bug thing...
[14:03] <veepee> anyone here has dualbooted winxp and ubuntu, Ubuntu first and then XP?
[14:03] <baba_b00ie> i saw gambas in the rep
[14:03] <perlsyntax> can't
[14:03] <actionParsnip> !info gambas
[14:03] <actionParsnip> !info gambas2
[14:03] <veepee> I can't install XP from the disk, it says it needs to write some startup files or something to the first drive
[14:04] <veepee> however the first drive is ubuntu partition
[14:04] <veepee> clearly XP cd cant write there
[14:04] <veepee> however I cant remove the partition because my ubuntu is there!
[14:05] <DonScott> veepee: your best bet would be to back up all your stuff....install windows first then install ubuntu...
[14:06] <veepee> DonScott, that's hell lot of a work... :/
[14:06] <Kreppnar> anyone here gotten their webcams to work within flashplayer in firefox? mine wont detect it, although it works with every other webcam program
[14:06] <ardian> Someone was connect to my computer with remote desktop how can I see the last IP that was connect here ?
[14:07] <DonScott> veepee: yeah but , windows doesn't like to play nice. sso you have to let it in first.
[14:07] <veepee> DonScott, I don't really have anything to backup my files.
[14:07] <Kreppnar> ardian: you running krfb?
[14:07] <veepee> my external HDD probably
[14:07] <veepee> but its fat32 formatted or smth liek that
[14:07] <veepee> so I would lose all owner data etc.
[14:08] <ardian> no Kreppnar
[14:08] <veepee> I have some programming schoolwork I cant afford to lose :P
[14:08] <DonScott> oh.....
[14:08] <mah52> flash audio with firefox doesn't work with 10.4, any ideas
[14:08] <bazhang> veepee, dual booting with win7?
[14:08] <Kreppnar> ardian: so you just need to see a list of recent connections that have attempted to connect to you?
[14:08] <ardian> Yes Kreppnar
[14:08] <bazhang> veepee, why not just update grub?
[14:08] <ardian> I'm not running any SSH server
[14:08] <Chousuke> veepee: put it in a distributed VCS repository and then just clone it around :P
[14:09] <veepee> Chousuke, I don't know how to do it and it sounds like a lot of work
[14:09] <Chousuke> veepee: it's not.
[14:09] <Frankz> I feel a little awkward. I received extraordinary statement yesterday, on shell leave yesterday. There are two files, which I would be getting this. But I did not manage to arrange this. Someone who can be detailed? (Since I am new to Ubuntu).
[14:09] <veepee> bazhang, I'm trying to install WinXP :/
[14:09] <Kreppnar> ardian: im always looking at that as well. inside your /var/log
[14:09] <Chousuke> veepee: if you're not already using a version control system, DO IT.
[14:09] <bazhang> veepee, same difference; with Lucid?
[14:09] <ardian> ok Kreppnar
[14:10] <Kreppnar> ardian: auth.log
[14:10] <olejka39> l
[14:10] <veepee> bazhang, yeah. but as I said. XP won't install.
[14:10] <veepee> Chousuke, hmm :/
[14:10] <bazhang> veepee, what error
[14:10] <Chousuke> veepee: the worst mistake one can do in programming is not to use version control
[14:10] <veepee> bazhang, it complains something about it can't install startup files
[14:10] <Kreppnar> ardian: it should show you the dates, and it shows you any connections from outside users, and it tells you if they were successful or not
[14:10] <veepee> as I have disk #0 for Ubuntu and then I cleared #1 for XP
[14:10] <ardian> ok thanks Kreppnar
[14:10] <Kreppnar> ardian: i get people trying to SSH into my box all the time..and its usually people from China
[14:11] <veepee> now as I try to install XP it wants to install some "startup files" to #0 (ubuntu drive) which it obviously cant do
[14:11] <mah52> any help getting flash audio to work in 10.4?
[14:11] <cannadark> Hi everyone! Does anybody know why my 7.1 audio card plays only on 2 channels on Ubuntu?
[14:11] <veepee> it asks me to format the partition but then I would lose all my ubuntu data
[14:11] <ardian> The problem was that the computer was off I just turned it on and he connected at that sec
[14:11] <DonScott> veepee : have you tried virtual box ?
[14:12] <veepee> DonScott, I've tried but its not sufficient for gaming
[14:12] <Chousuke> veepee: with git (which is what I use) adding an existing project is as easy as cd projectdir && git init; editor .gitignore; <add globs for files to be ignored, such as editor backups> ; git add .gitignore; git commit; git add .; git commit -m "initial import"; :P
[14:12] <veepee> Chousuke, its just a small project, not sure if version control is needed
[14:12] <Chousuke> veepee: it is
[14:12] <Chousuke> veepee: there is never a reason not to use version control
[14:12] <Chousuke> veepee: it's so easy
[14:12] <Sunderphon> Hi, I'm kind of a newbie to ubuntu (installed for the first time yesterday) and I have a Ralink 3070 USB WiFi dongle, I have the driver files downloaded but I'm kind of unsure on what to do with them
[14:13] <Chousuke> veepee: and you can make all the mistakes and experiments you want. it's safe.
[14:13] <Adrian-B> Hello. I've just done a LAMP installation, which run smoothly. Now, i'm trying to install wordpress - i have installed the wordpress and php-gd packages; done the steps requiered and i got the wordpress directory inside my site directory. I need to go to my localhost/wordpress/ directory to further install it. The problem is that all i get is a blank page
[14:13] <veepee> hmm but that line sounds complicated
[14:13] <Chousuke> veepee: it's not.
[14:13] <veepee> Chousuke, probably if I had the time to learn it
[14:13] <Chousuke> veepee: and besides, if you're going to be a programmer, even occasionally, you NEED to learn to use version control
[14:14] <marcotouch> !list
[14:14] <Chousuke> veepee: so best to do it as early as possible.
[14:14] <veepee> Chousuke, yeah...
[14:14] <vivien`> Hi. In Thunar and many other graphical file managers, you can mount a USB key just by selecting (i.e., clicking on) its icon or name. Is it possible to do the same from command line or at least from a text-mode file manager?
[14:14] <Kreppnar> jesus fuck
[14:14] <Kreppnar> sorry
[14:14] <Kreppnar> just got a bit pissed when i saw plane ticket prices
[14:14] <Chousuke> veepee: seriously though, invest a few hours into version control now and you'll save many in the future :)
[14:14] <Adrian-B> I think it's some sort of php problem; or some problem with file permissions - given the fact that everything else is fine; thou i'm not sure. Any ideas?
[14:14] <ardian> Kreppnar, i cant see any IPs in that log file
[14:14] <marcotouch> !movies
[14:15] <veepee> Chousuke, yeah I know... but not now :/
[14:15] <veepee> Im sick and all
[14:15] <veepee> grr I just want to dualboot
[14:15] <veepee> seems it's more complicated I expected it to be when I have Ubuntu first...
[14:15] <vivien`> veepee: Chousuke is right. And version control is useful for many other things.
[14:15] <marcotouch> !list
[14:15] <bazhang> marcotouch, not in this channel
[14:15] <Chousuke> veepee: what's your problem with dual booting?
[14:16] <marcotouch> ok
[14:16] <bazhang> marcotouch, #ubuntu-it for Italian
[14:16] <marcotouch> i'm sorry
[14:16] <lyrae> when i do "ls -la", it shows files and folder with a green background and blue text. pretty much unreadable. how can i fix this?
[14:16] <veepee> Chousuke, it doesn't allow me to install it.
[14:16] <Chousuke> veepee: what doesn't allow you to install what? :P
[14:16] <Kreppnar> adrian: hmm i do in mine. thats odd
[14:16] <veepee> Ubuntu is on partition with id 0. I want to install XP to another partition id 1.
[14:16] <veepee> it all goes fine but when I try to install to partition id 1
[14:16] <Kreppnar> adrian: have you check a few of them? there should be a crazy amount of log files in there
[14:16] <veepee> it says it needs to write some startup files to partition id 0
[14:17] <veepee> (the ubuntu partition)
[14:17] <veepee> it clearly cant write to the ubuntu or something
[14:17] <Adrian-B> Chousuke, you wouldnt happen to have any ideas?
[14:17] <Chousuke> veepee: oh, right. XP is stupid
[14:17] <veepee> so it asks me to format the ubuntu partition
[14:17] <vivien`> lyrae: You need to configure LS_COLORS. See for example http://www.bigsoft.co.uk/blog/index.php/2008/04/11/configuring-ls_colors
[14:17] <veepee> and thats not something I want to do.'
[14:17] <Chousuke> Adrian-B: for what?
[14:17] <Adrian-B> Hello. I've just done a LAMP installation, which run smoothly. Now, i'm trying to install wordpress - i have installed the wordpress and php-gd packages; done the steps requiered and i got the wordpress directory inside my site directory. I need to go to my localhost/wordpress/ directory to further install it. The problem is that all i get is a blank page
[14:17] <Adrian-B> I think it's some sort of php problem; or some problem with file permissions - given the fact that everything else is fine; thou i'm not sure. Any ideas?
[14:18] <lyrae> vivien`, thank you
[14:18] <Chousuke> Adrian-B: does the directory have executable permissions? and the php scripts?
[14:18] <veepee> do the operating systems need to be at the same disk?
[14:18] <Chousuke> Adrian-B: are they readable by the web server process?
[14:19] <olejka39> htop
[14:19] <vivien`> lyrae: In my .bashrc, I have "eval `dircolors ~/.ls_colors`", with .ls_colors pasted here: http://pastebin.com/QKDVnx7F
[14:19] <Adrian-B> Chousuke, i'm not sure; you see, i have followed the ubuntu lamp install guide. SO it asked me to do a test.php file with  <?php phpinfo(); ?> in it; and everything seems fine
[14:19] <Chousuke> Adrian-B: though if it were a permissions problem you should get a 403
[14:20] <Sunderphon> Can someone help me with installing the drivers for my usb wifi dongle? I have the files downloaded, but I don't actually know what to do with them. http://pastebin.com/uWgi0KFx <-- This contains a list of the files, I don't know what to do with.
[14:20] <Chousuke> Adrian-B: so it's probably something else. you don't have adblock or anything that could be breaking it?
[14:20] <lyrae> vivien`, is that your bashrc?
[14:20] <Chousuke> veepee: I really don't know enough about XP to know how to get it to install without clobbering ubuntu
[14:20] <vivien`> lyrae: No, just ~/.ls_colors, which is evaled with "eval `dircolors ~/.ls_colors`" in .bashrc (remove the quotes and put it in .bashrc)
[14:20] <Adrian-B> Chousuke, no, i've looked there already
[14:20] <veepee> will fat32 lose my file permissions etc.
[14:20] <ardian> Where are the log files for Remote Desktop Connection
[14:21] <Chousuke> veepee: yes.
[14:21] <lyrae> vivien`, thanks
[14:21] <veepee> would it be pain in the ass if I tar.gz these files
[14:21] <veepee> the eclipse workspace
[14:21] <veepee> and then move it to fat32=
[14:21] <veepee> ?
[14:21] <FloodBot2> veepee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:21] <Chousuke> veepee: no; tar.gz preserves permissions
[14:21] <Chousuke> or rather, tar does
[14:21] <veepee> so it would be all okay that way?
[14:21] <Chousuke> veepee: possibly.
[14:21] <veepee> Ill just tar.gz all my files, move them to fat32 external
[14:21] <vivien`> lyrae: Notice that my folders are in blue, which you won't like. But you can tune easily from here!
[14:21] <Chousuke> veepee: you might need to reset the owner though if the user ids don't match
[14:21] <veepee> install WinXP, install ubuntu, and then extract the files=?
[14:22] <knittl> hi. is there a newsgroupreader you can recommend?
[14:22] <Chousuke> veepee: that should work.
[14:22] <veepee> Chousuke, but the chances are I possibly can retrieve the files ? :)
[14:22] <veepee> somehow
[14:22] <Chousuke> veepee: the files won't go anywhere
[14:22] <veepee> good
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> knittl:  depends on your needs  - pan used to be popular
[14:23] <veepee> Chousuke, I think it formats them from ext to fat32 right?
[14:23] <veepee> do I need to do some special operations to get them from fat32 to ext partition?
[14:23] <knittl> Dr_Willis: it should be small/lightweight if possible
[14:23] <veepee> so that I can import them to my eclipse?
[14:23] <Chousuke> veepee: hm, wait. formatting teh partition will destroy all data on it.
[14:23] <veepee> hmm yeah I know.
[14:23] <Chousuke> veepee: so you'll need to copy the tarball somewhere safe, of course
[14:23] <veepee> yeah.
[14:23] <Chousuke> veepee: but you can restore it later
[14:24] <veepee> but I mean, is it for sure possible to restore the files then? :)
[14:24] <vivien`> Folks, how do you mount USB keys? with a graphical file manager, with the line "mount -t ..." or with something else?
[14:24] <veepee> so it wont get cluttered when I put it to the fat32
[14:24] <lyrae> vivien`, so i put that paste into a file called .ls_colors in my home dir and add eval 'dircolors ~/.ls_colors' to bashrc? if so, didnt work
[14:24] <Chousuke> veepee: if you tar them up, no.
[14:24] <veepee> I had bad experiences with text files I put on fat32
[14:24] <Chousuke> veepee: the tar ball will remember the directory structure
[14:24] <Chousuke> veepee: it'll just be a single file once it's tarred so there's no way they'll get cluttered :)
[14:25] <veepee> okay
[14:25] <veepee> do I need to do any special operations
[14:25] <veepee> when I retrieve the tar ball from fat32 to ext
[14:25] <adalal> hey, anyone here can help me with getting a bcm4318 wireless card to work?
[14:25] <veepee> just copy it and extract?
[14:25] <Chousuke> veepee: no
[14:25] <blue_anna> if I change the default font size in gnometerminal bash doesn't wrap lines properly (please don't tell me "so don't do that!")
[14:25] <vivien`> lyrae: Yes, but it is eval `dircolors ~/.ls_colors` with ticks `, not quotes.
[14:25] <acab_> adalal use fwcutter
[14:25] <Chousuke> veepee: you can make the tarball, copy it, and then try to extract the copy elsewhere to see if you packed it correctly.
[14:25] <acab_> i had the same problem
[14:26] <adalal> acab_: how do you get that to work? is it just a matter of installing that file?
[14:26] <vivien`> lyrae: In addition, you need to launch a new console (or "source ~/.bashrc").
[14:26] <Chousuke> veepee: but just moving a tarball from ext3 to fat32 won't do anything to the tarball's contents.
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> eval $(dircolors XXXXXX) is more clear then backticks isent it?
[14:26] <lyrae> vivien`, yep. not working
[14:26] <veepee> Chousuke, if I copy it from fat32 to ext3 it will be extractable right away
[14:26] <acab_> adalal: which os are you using?
[14:26] <adalal> acab_: 10.04
[14:26] <veepee> or do I need to something to 'convert' it from fat32 to ext and then extract?
[14:26] <Chousuke> veepee: yes.
[14:27] <Chousuke> veepee: no need to convert
[14:27] <Chousuke> veepee: it's just data.
[14:27] <veepee> yeah good :)
[14:27] <veepee> thanks
[14:27] <vivien`> lyrae: and maybe the scheme in .ls_colors is the same as your current scheme, so that you do not see a difference! Try to modify the colors. And launch "ls --color=auto" instead of ls.
[14:27] <acab_> well then you don't have to do nothing more than use mmmh
[14:27] <Chousuke> veepee: you don't need to convert mp3s either when you move them from fat32 to another filesystem. it's the same thing with tarballs. they're just blobs of data.
[14:28] <acab_> i'm not sure how to say it in english
[14:28] <adalal> acab_: mmmh?
[14:28] <acab_> "proprietary driver" menu
[14:28] <vivien`> lyrae: Dr_Willis is right, eval $(dircolors ~/.ls_colors) is easier to read. But it does the same as with the ticks.
[14:28] <adalal> acab_: this is a server installation with command line prompt only
[14:28] <acab_> in administration
[14:28] <lyrae> vivien`, are any of your colors purple/pink?
[14:28] <blue_anna> adalal: the default munchies app :P
[14:28] <veepee> Chousuke, okay... could you imagine any reason why my game configs didnt work when I put them onto fat32 in windows and took them from fat32 @ linux?
[14:28] <Adrian-B> Chousuke, got that:) Was a file permission problem.
[14:28] <veepee> probably permission errors or something
[14:28] <veepee> ?
[14:28] <adalal> blue_anna: what's that?
[14:28] <blue_anna> adalal: ahah I dunno
[14:29] <veepee> since then I've avoided fat32 to ext3 copying :D
[14:29] <Chousuke> veepee: possibly.
[14:29] <adalal> acab_: i dont have gnome or kde installed, it's a command-line installation ly
[14:29] <pc1> hi, i am trying to install omnibook but if i do "modprobe omnibook ectype=11" it is fine, then "cat "omnibook ectype=11">>/etc/modules" i get "cat: omnibook ectype=11: No such file or directory" how come??? sugestions??
[14:29] <Chousuke> veepee: fat32 doesn't retain permissions
[14:29] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi can anyone help with my printer? it was working and now it prints really weird... i run 8.10 with gnome and the printer is a canon pixma ip3600 thanks
[14:29] <acab_> ok than you need to download the original driver and than installing with fwcutter, adalal
[14:29] <Chousuke> veepee: but you can always reset them with chmod and chown afterwards, if you know what they need to be
[14:29] <adalal> acab_: how do you install fwcutter.. and use it?
[14:29] <acab_> but i'm not such expert to know if you can do that by terminal
[14:29] <veepee> yeah :)
[14:30] <blue_anna> pc1: what are you trying to cat?
[14:30] <vivien`> lyrae: No purple or pink, I think
[14:30] <lyrae> vivien`, then nvm. i thought it changed but didn't
[14:30] <ThinkCigar> How to register my nick name?
[14:30] <acab_> i'm not sure about how to do that, adalal
[14:30] <bazhang> !register > ThinkCigar
[14:30] <acab_> i follow a guide some times ago
[14:31] <pc1> bleu_anna: cat "omnibook ectype=11">>/etc/modules
[14:31] <blue_anna> pc1: you mean echo "omnibook bla-bla" >> file
[14:31] <blue_anna> pc1: cat is for file
[14:31] <vivien`> lyrae: Try with "ls --color=always", just in case
[14:31] <Sunderphon> http://pastebin.com/uWgi0KFx Which file do I need to execute/edit here to set up my wifi dongle drivers?
[14:31] <adalal> acab_: after the fwcutter stage, what's next?
[14:32] <ThinkCigar>  !register > ThinkCigar
[14:32] <tulimaq> hey i have this very strange issue ... trying to install lucid server, md5 checks up and all but in target machine it fails with copying files. but jaunty cd works just fine
[14:32] <blue_anna> tulimaq: does the harddrive test fine?
[14:32] <acab_> you need to have the original driver adalal,than use fwcutter to install it...but how,i really don't remember
[14:33] <acab_> if you can,ask google
[14:33] <pc1> bleu_anna: i have no clue folowed directions http://www.linux.com/community/forums?func=view&catid=25&id=4923
[14:33] <bazhang> ThinkCigar, /join #freenode for help
[14:33] <tulimaq> blue_anna, yes ofcourse
[14:33] <blue_anna> pc1: its a typo :) they were thinking echo in place of cat
[14:33] <Dad`> Hello! I just restarted my laptop and gdm don't ask me for a login/password. I tryed to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, gdm, xorg and still doesn't work. Any idea? :-)
[14:33] <lyrae> vivien`, dont know. i think it changed from blueish to purple. but this one hard disk shows green with blue
[14:34] <adalal> acab_: i installed it, and the installer downloaded a lot of fw files.... http://pastebin.com/tfksRGhP
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> Dad`:  i noticed that also today. I thinki clicked on my login icon and it dident ask for password either
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> Dad`:  it would be a gdm setting not a xorg setting i imagine
[14:34] <lyrae> vivien`, yes. i commented out the eval line. its back to blue when ls a regular dir. but when i ls a disk that was mounted as root, its green and blue
[14:35] <veepee> seems I'm pretty much all set
[14:35] <pc1> so it must be "echo "omnibook ectype=11">>/etc/modules" insted of "cat "omnibook ectype=11">>/etc/modules"
[14:35] <veepee> can I blame you Chousuke if something goes wrong? :)
[14:35] <Sunderphon> http://pastebin.com/uWgi0KFx Which file do I execute or edit to install my USB Wifi drivers?
[14:35] <Dad`> Dr_Willis: but I'm stuck on gdm I can't login :-)
[14:35] <vivien`> lyrae: what is the output of "eval `dircolors ~/.ls_colors`"?
[14:35] <Chousuke> veepee: probably not, as I haven't given any advice that should go wrong :P
[14:35] <blue_anna> pc1: with a sudo at the front, yea
[14:36] <Chousuke> veepee: you wouldn
[14:36] <blue_anna> pc1: sudo echo "omnibook ectype=11">>/etc/modules
[14:36] <blue_anna> pc1: only do it once
[14:36] <Chousuke> veepee: wouldn't have this problem if you were using version control for your code :)
[14:36] <lyrae> vivien`, nothing
[14:36] <Chousuke> veepee: at least, a distributed one.
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> Dad`:  weird. can you login on the console ?
[14:36] <Dad`> yes
[14:36] <bumbblebee> anybody knows the stream url for radio of bollywood songs, and rock?
[14:37] <vivien`> lyrae: What do you mean by "nothing"? It must at least return "export LS_COLORS"!
[14:37] <lyrae> vivien`, nope
[14:37] <blue_anna> bumbblebee: google "bollywood radio" there's a million of them
[14:37] <vivien`> lyrae: Oups, I meant "dircolors ~/.ls_colors" alone.
[14:37] <Chousuke> veepee: for future reference, git-scm.org and progit.org are good resources.
[14:37] <blue_anna> bumbblebee: actually, there's 11 million of them :)
[14:38] <veepee> :/
[14:38] <veepee> thanks :P
[14:38] <lyrae> vivien`, outputs "LS_COLORS='no=00:fi=00:di=01;35:ln=01;36:pi=40;" and so on
[14:38] <blue_anna> if I change the default font size in gnome terminal bash doesn't wrap lines properly
[14:38] <pc1> blue_anna: oke, did it but my cpu is still at 60 celcius
[14:38] <vivien`> lyrae: So it is working. You can change the colors in .ls_colors now.
[14:39] <lyrae> vivien`, it seems to be working. but if the folder was mounted by root. then its green on blue
[14:39] <pc1> blue_anna: do i need to run someting?
[14:39] <blue_anna> Dad`, Dr_Willis: its a config option on the login preferences, but I can't remember what it is called
[14:39] <cakanas> tes:
[14:39] <bumbblebee> blue_anna, i already did it, not getting the url which i can use in rythmbox
[14:39] <cakanas> hi all
[14:39] <ThinkCigar> hi
[14:39] <lyrae> vivien`, but its green on blue with or without ls_colors. so i believe ls_colors doesnt change colors of dirs/files of root mounted dirs
[14:39] <strange> hey guys im trying to forward a port to one of my machines i have internet sharing setup like this: http://pastebin.com/LN2pAXG0 can someone tell me how to forward a port range to ip 192.168.69.245 ?
[14:39] <blue_anna> pc1: I was just telling you how to follow his install instructions, I have no idea if it works :S send me that link again? I'll look at it with you
[14:39] <strange> eth0 = internet, eth2 = internal
[14:40] <cakanas> think cigar: hi too
[14:40] <costre> I have a Garmin handheld GPS, with both a builtin memory and a microSDcard. I can't get both of them to mount, just the microSD shows up. Ideas? (windows makes them both appear)
[14:40] <vivien`> lyrae: I am pretty sure it does, but you need to find the entry in ls_colors
[14:40] <pc1> blue_anna: http://www.linux.com/community/forums?func=view&catid=25&id=4923
[14:40] <marcotouch> @roobin hood
[14:41] <blue_anna> strange: have you read up on ufw and port forwarding?
[14:41] <blue_anna> strange: might try this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=833844
[14:41] <Dad`> blue_anna: where are these login preferences ? :-)
[14:41] <bazhang> marcotouch, not in this channel
[14:41] <lyrae> vivien`, ok. ill take it from here :) thank you
[14:41] <blue_anna> Dad`: I'm forgetting :S System->Preferences I think there's one in there where you can check/uncheck automatically login or require login
[14:41] <strange> blue_anna: ufw = inactive
[14:41] <vivien`> lyrae: you are welcome. I do not know which entry, but you should find. At least you have a way to edit the colors!
[14:42] <lyrae> vivien`, eventually ill get it
[14:42] <Dad`> blue_anna: but I can't start X :-)
[14:42] <blue_anna> Dad`: oo man, I misread. I thought your problem was that it was automatically logging you in
[14:42] <Ely> Hello everyone.
[14:43] <corpse> i recently was messing around with tor, privoxy and polipos, also setting up p2p hosting. Now my internet runs extreamly slow, and some times wont connect to the internet at all. From what i can tell i have all proxy and tor proccesses turned off but i still get the slow speeds. any ideas?
[14:43] <vivien`> lyrae: It must be in the lines after NORMAL, etc. Note that other entries are accepted, like SETUID and SETGID.
[14:43] <veepee> Chousuke, do you know if I can just extract those .tar.gz at windows if I have a need for it?
[14:43] <veepee> I mean, if I have .tar.gz compatible archive manager there
[14:44] <vivien`> lyrae: "dircolors --print-database" will give you more entries.
[14:44] <blue_anna> pc1: it might take a minute or two for the temperature to cool
[14:45] <juxta> i'm trying to remove apache2 from an ubuntu server install - I used apt-get remove --purge apache2, but it still seems to be present, and apt told me the operation only cleared 123kb of space. how can I actually fully remove apache2?
[14:45] <Ely> Guys I Have a question, I recently changed my theme on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and now the Open/CLose/Minimize etc icons appear the top right of the windows, how can I make them go back to the default left position?
[14:45] <lyrae> vivien`, thanks!
[14:45] <dto> i can't record sound from either of my audio input devices into pulseaudio. one of them (a usb device which works fine for input and output with Jackd) and the other (envy24 delta 1010) only shows the digital inputs
[14:45] <blue_anna> pc1: also take a look at this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-change-cpu-frequency-scaling-in-ubuntu.html -- not that I'd want to always be limiting my cpu but I suppose that's more or less what you're doing with that module anyway
[14:45] <dto> not the analog
[14:46] <Chousuke> veepee: sure.
[14:46] <dto> the usb audio won't show up as a selectable input device despite it showing up as full duplex in the sound prefs
[14:46] <Chousuke> veepee: any decent unarchiver can handle tarballs
[14:46] <corpse> Does anyone know if Tor has a process that can run outside of system monitor? I do not see tor, but when i connect to speedtest.net i thinks i live in the Netherlands, but i live in Nothern US
[14:46] <pc1> blue_anna: i hope you'r right, i think it is broken, it keeps shutting down when cpu get to 60%
[14:47] <blue_anna> strange: let me make sure I understand -- you are trying to forward ports on your machine, right? <my-ip:in-range> to <my-ip:out-range>
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> corpse:  you dont really want to use tor for  Torrents.
[14:47] <blue_anna> strange: or are you just forwarding packets from the internet to your machine when they are at the right port?
[14:48] <ardian> how to find the logs of programs
[14:48] <perlsyntax> I got my ubuntu 10.04 to boot on the laptop i hadd to push f6 and put some command in:)
[14:48] <ardian> like logs of remote desktop
[14:48] <evon> I presently have ubuntu installed on one partition while having windows on the other. I would like to reinstall windows on my windows partition.  I would like to know 1. if this will screw up my ubuntu partition and 2. how do I resinstall the grub (i have no idea what to do with grub 2)? Thanks in advance
[14:48] <perlsyntax> sound like a bug
[14:48] <army12bc> i am having problems with some cat5e, windows xp and 7 dont get signal but ubuntu works just fine?
[14:48] <strange> blue_anna: im trying to forward a teamspeak server
[14:48] <Ely> How do I make the Close/Maximize/Minimize bottoms show up to the left side of the window please?
[14:48] <Dr_Willis> !controls | Ely
[14:49] <corpse> Dr_Willis i wasnt using it for Torrents. i think i might have found the problem though. I ended the Tor process from system monitor but when i ran netstat -nap | grep 9050 it showed tor was still taking up that port
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> Ely:  theres numerous tools to move them about.
[14:49] <Ely> hmm controls?
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> Ely:  ubuntu-tweak,  is one also.
[14:49] <ehsantux> Hi my friends
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> Ely:  !stuff is a bot trigger
[14:49] <ehsantux> anybody know where is the xorg.conf file in ubuntu 10.04
[14:50] <Ely> I went to Appearance but cant find options for it
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> Ely:  thats because there IS no default gui tool to move the controlls left/right
[14:50] <DIL> how can i change the "blurred outer space" screen on 10.4
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> Ely:  you use some of the commands mentoned on the factoids. or some 3rd party gui tools
[14:50] <army12bc> i am having problems with some cat5e, windows xp and 7 dont get signal but ubuntu works just fine?
[14:51] <[fade]> ehsantux /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> Ely:  another tool that can do it is 'mwbuttons'
[14:51] <bazhang> army12bc, windows problem?
[14:51] <Ely> ok Dr_Willis I ll check on those thanks a lot
[14:51] <evon> I presently have ubuntu installed on one partition while having windows on the other. I would like to reinstall windows on my windows partition.  I would like to know 1. if this will screw up my ubuntu partition and 2. how do I resinstall the grub (i have no idea what to do with grub 2)? Thanks in advance
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/mwbuttons-complete-gui-for-customizing.html
[14:51] <ehsantux> fade,yes
[14:51] <army12bc> bazhang its a problem for both actually, same pc
[14:51] <Ely> ok Dr_Willis thanks!
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> wget http://launchpad.net/mwbuttons/trunk/v0.2/+download/mwbuttons
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> chmod +x mwbuttons
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> ./mwbuttons
[14:51] <bazhang> army12bc, ubuntu works fine you said
[14:52] <Ely> k
[14:52] <army12bc> what does ubuntu do that windows doesnt when it comes to NIC
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> They really really really should of included a tool to cahnge them about.
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> army12bc:  windows might not have drivers for the nic by default.  seen that in a few cases
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> finding windows drivers for a nic that windows says is a 'pci nic' is SOOO much fun.. :)
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> 'connect to internet to find drivers...' err... that would be a neat trick.
[14:53] <army12bc> shows up proper NIC, other pc does too, how do i find ubuntu driver that is installed
[14:53] <airtonix> Dr_Willis, gconf is the config tooo.
[14:53] <airtonix> gconf-editor*
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> army12bc:  lsmod should  show all the loaded modules army12bc  - one of those is the proper 'driver' for it under linux. It works in linux but not windows? lspci should show the nic and give a name at least of it.
[14:54] <army12bc> ah ok
[14:54] <army12bc> ty dr willis
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> airtonix:  or i could use dd to alter teh system configs. :)  -   Hopefully they include a tool like 'mwbuttons' in the next release.. but by then gnome-3 may be out.. so it wont matter much.
[14:55] <airtonix> Dr_Willis, would be neat if gnome-appearance (and most other config apps) accepted dropin python plugins which created new tabs in there dialog windows
[14:55] <Ely> ok Dr_Willis I found this command gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string "close,minimize,maximize:" on the page you gave me and it worked!
[14:55] <churl> lucid started up a jaunty session on restart.  Where is a session hidden if not in ~/.gnome2/session??
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> airtonix:  yea. But thats not the gnome way. :)
[14:56] <DIL> how can i change the "blurred outer space" screen on 10.4
[14:56] <airtonix> Ely, or you could just run gconf-editor and graphically do it
[14:56] <adalal> hello guys, i'm trying to get a bcm4318 wlan card working, i installed b43-fwcutter, which downloaded all the necessary firmwares, and also did sudo modprobe b43 ... how do i get this to work
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> DIL:  we are not sure what you are talking about.
[14:56] <pc1> blue_anna: it runs at 42% and 60celcius, what shall i do? is my laoptop broken?
[14:56] <slow-motion> hi
[14:57] <DIL> Dr_Willis, on boot up
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> DIL:  go on.......
[14:57] <blue_anna> pc1: shut it down until you figure out how to lower the temperatur -- or you risk burning out the cpu :S
[14:57] <acicula> modern cpu's dont burn out that quick, your computer is more likely to crash well before it burns
[14:57] <Ely> ok airtonix thanks for that tip
[14:58] <pc1> yea, it just shuts down when it gets to 95celcius
[14:58] <airtonix> Ely, i find it much easier to use gconf-editor to change things
[14:58] <DIL> Dr_Willis, on boot up spalsh screen stars ... would like to see something more "pleasant"
[14:58] <acicula> pc1, laptop or desktop?
[14:59] <pc1> acicula: laptop tochiba l300
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> DIL:  theres some other Plymouth Themes in the repos if thats what you are refering to.  I got a row of 'dots' here as the default.
[14:59] <pc1> acicula: toshiba
[14:59] <acicula> best get it cleaned or clean it yourself then, laptops clog up rather easily
[15:00] <DIL> Dr_Willis, well i must have it wrong
[15:00] <avg_guy> I am looking to take a .mov video and make a bunch of pictures out of it. I had something installed that would do with  version 9.10 but now with 10.04 i dont see anything like it . anyideas
[15:00] <Ely> where is gconf locatede airtonix ?
[15:00] <pc1> acicula: oke gone do that right now, thanks acicula and blue_anna
[15:01] <army12bc> how can i tell if i'm getting interference from another cat6 cable
[15:01] <bazhang> army12bc, sounds like a hardware question
[15:01] <DIL> Dr_Willis, well i must have it wrong -its the background screen after the ubuntu with the dots enteringing username and pw
[15:02] <Ely> brb
[15:02] <airtonix> Ely, press alt+f2 to get your run window open
[15:02] <adalal> hey, i'm trying to get a bcm4318 wlan card working, i installed b43-fwcutter, which downloaded all the necessary firmwares, and also did sudo modprobe b43 ... how do i get this to work
[15:02] <airtonix> Ely, then type : gconf-editor
[15:02] <acicula> army12bc, you need pretty sophisticated measurement material to do that
[15:02] <ehsantux> is there anybody to help me?
[15:02] <Ely> k thanks
[15:03] <evon> I presently have ubuntu installed on one partition while having windows on the other. I would like to reinstall windows on my windows partition.  I would like to know 1. if this will screw up my ubuntu partition and 2. how do I resinstall the grub (i have no idea what to do with grub 2)? Thanks in advance
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> DIL:  if you are refering to the GDM login screen with the purplish splotches. theres numerous tools that can change that background - or you can edit the  /usr/share/backgrounds/XXXX image that is being used. (its called warty-final-ubuntu.png by default
[15:03] <airtonix> Ely, http://imagebin.org/96962
[15:03] <evon> ehsantux, whay you need help with?
[15:03] <adalal> evon: it shouldn't screw up windows at all, it will replace grub, but u can easily reinstall that using a live cd
[15:04] <DIL> Dr_Willis, thank you so much !!
[15:04] <adalal> anyone here have any experience with broadcom cards?
[15:04] <evon> adalal, i have not resintalled grub2 via live cd before. is it a difficult process?
[15:04] <SocialistPig> evon it wont screw up ubuntu just dont tell it to use entire disk
[15:04] <ehsantux> evon,Do you know where is the xorg.conf file in ubuntu 10.04
[15:04] <adalal> evon: nope
[15:04] <Sunderphon> how do I edit a file as root?
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> Sunderphon:  sudo EDITOR /PATH/TO/FILE
[15:04] <acicula> adalal, they are pretty common for bluetooth and wifi
[15:04] <airtonix> Ely, actually : http://imagebin.org/96963
[15:04] <SocialistPig> sudo gedit "filename"
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> Sunderphon:  or 'gksudo' :)
[15:05] <adalal> acicula: yes, im trying to get a bcm4318 card to work with ubuntu...
[15:05] <Sunderphon> many thanks
[15:05] <adalal> ehsantux: by default xorg is deprecated i think
[15:05] <LukeL> !xorg.conf
[15:06] <evon> ehsantux it should be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
[15:06] <acicula> adalal, fresh installation?
[15:06] <krtek> commit
[15:06] <krachny> Sunderphon: gksudo gedit <file> or sudo nano <file>
[15:06] <Sunderphon> I'm doing it wrong somehow
[15:06] <airtonix> Ely, to make changes to a key entry, double click on the cell in the right column
[15:06] <ehsantux> evon,but it is not there
[15:06] <adalal> acicula: it's a minimal install with a couple of services running, so more or less fresh
[15:06] <VCoolio> ehsantux: there is no xorg.conf by default; you can create one in /etc/X11 if you need
[15:06] <dto> hi. i'm unable to get gtk-recordmydesktop to record any video despite trying every combination of options and stuff with both compiz and non-compositing metacity, and it always just fails with "improper window specification" from the underlying executable
[15:06] <airtonix> Ely, (if its a text entry field)
[15:06] <Sunderphon> it's treating the directory as the filename
[15:06] <dto> what am i doing wrong?
[15:06] <dto> anyone else successfully make screencasts?
[15:07] <Ely> k
[15:07] <SocialistPig> yeah I have using gtk-record my desktop
[15:07] <Sunderphon> sudo nano \etc\modprobe.d\blacklist.conf
[15:07] <ehsantux> there is no display view in tty's in my ubuntu
[15:07] <mankash> how to make fonts smaller, somehow fonts have become bigger in display, everything on the screen is big
[15:07] <Sunderphon> wrong?
[15:07] <VCoolio> Sunderphon: /  not \
[15:07] <h00k> Sunderphon: you're going to want to use /these/slashes
[15:07] <ehsantux> could you please tell me what's the problem?
[15:08] <evon> ehsantux, the only thing i can think of is that maybe something got messed up when you installed the drivers
[15:08] <acicula> adalal, no gui?
[15:08] <adalal> acicula: nope, it's meant to run as a server
[15:08] <evon> ehsantux, i admit i am not an expert in that area, but I would try resintalling the drivers, you may even have to create the xorg.conf yourself.
[15:09] <ehsantux> evon,Is it the reason of lack of xorg.conf file?
[15:09] <Ely> brb
[15:09] <filo1234> hi there, i have installed Ubuntu 10.04 but i have a problem with my mouse Olidata optical ps/2, it doesen't run
[15:09] <Sunderphon> thanks!
[15:09] <acicula> adalal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[15:10] <MrKeuner> hello, I feel like practicing higher than usual load averages since I have upgraded to Lucid. Any comments on that?
[15:10] <evon> ehsantux, i believe so, it's happened to me before. I just looked up instructions on how to create one for my video card.
[15:10] <MrKeuner> how can I see what is causing the higher load average?
[15:10] <acicula> adalal, you will also have to fiddle with wpa_supplicant in that case and define the wireless connection details manually in /etc/network/services
[15:10] <adalal> acicula: that's the easy bit for me :)
[15:10] <xu> HI
[15:11] <airtonix> MrKeuner, either top or htop is good.
[15:11] <acicula> adalal, according to the wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx the open source driver works, if not then else you have to use ndiswrapper to try the windows driver
[15:11] <MrKeuner> airtonix, in top, cpu is idle, memory is idle what else could it be?
[15:11] <adalal> acicula: thanks
[15:11] <airtonix> MrKeuner, i believe load is not just cpu, is this correct ?
[15:12] <acicula> adalal, for what its worth running laptops 24/7 in their normal form is not exactly something their made for
[15:12] <phenrique> Anyone know how configure Ubuntu + Netbeans + SVN? I read a tutorial but it show this page to download: http://www.open.collab.net/downloads/netbeans/ but in there dont exist download for Ubuntu
[15:12] <MrKeuner> airtonix, it is not but I do not know what else it is
[15:12] <adalal> acicula: yeah, im aware, but the load on the server is so negligible, and the laptop is an old spare one anyways, so i dont mind
[15:12] <airtonix> MrKeuner, i dont use top but rather htop. so im not sure how you get top to show disk io
[15:13] <MrKeuner> airtonix, how do you see disk io in htop?
[15:13] <VCoolio> MrKeuner: there is also iotop
[15:13] <acicula> adalal, ok :) let me know if the wiki page / ndiswrapper solves your connection issue
[15:13] <ScrotyBoogrBalls> ##windows pwns this fucking channel
[15:13] <adalal> will do
[15:13] <acicula> thanx
[15:13] <ScrotyBoogrBalls> You're all a bunch of fucking faggots for using ubuntu instead of windows 7
[15:13] <acicula> !ops
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[15:14] <airtonix> MrKeuner, f2 for setup, then arrow down till you get to columns, then arrow right till you get to available coloumns and then arrow down to IO_READ & IO_WRITE
[15:14] <airtonix> MrKeuner, then press enter to add those two to active columns
[15:15] <airtonix> MrKeuner, then f10 to save setup
[15:15] <MrKeuner> airtonix, OK thank you
[15:16] <airtonix> MrKeuner, i could be wrong, so you might like to read up on what each of those available column names mean
[15:17] <phenrique> .
[15:18] <MrKeuner> 10% cpu for X is that "normal"
[15:18] <MrKeuner> not running video or games
[15:19] <Shazzam6999> i don't think so... im using .63% for x right now... whats your cpu speed?
[15:19] <aatifh> How do i set the java CLASSPATH in ubuntu?
[15:20] <MrKeuner> Shazzam6999, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8700  @ 2.53GHz
[15:20] <Shazzam6999> MrKreuner: yeah, that's definitely not normal
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> unless ya got a lot of eyecandy going on  or other stuff in the desktop.
[15:20] <blackhole> Hi i need to configure my mail server in such a way that it accepts every email whether that email id exist or not .. & deliver them to lets say root@myserver.com for every email what i need to do?
[15:20] <MrKeuner> Shazzam6999, htop cpu percentage is going between 1% and 10%
[15:21] <Shazzam6999> MrKeuner: do you have a lot of eyecandy running?
[15:21] <desso> Can i lock the keyboard and mouse on linux?
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> X here is at 1% every so often it pops uo to 10 %   some times ite eve4n at 0%
[15:22] <SocialistPig> theres a panel applet that locks the mouse in place
[15:22] <desso> I would lock both and via the konsole (ssh from a other pc)
[15:22] <MrKeuner> Shazzam6999, I have expose but not using it at the moment
[15:23] <Shazzam6999> mine kind of fluctuates from like 0.1% to 2% and my processor is worse than yours.  What de are you using? I know there was some bugs with kde
[15:23] <desso> anyone a idea?
[15:23] <MrKeuner> Gnome 2.30
[15:24] <MrKeuner> Shazzam6999, I heard some memory leak problems with X.org prior to Lucid launch
[15:24] <judgepg> aatifh - add it to export
[15:24] <SocialistPig> desso: it should be possible to lock the screen remotly
[15:24] <aatifh> judgepg, I did this export JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/"
[15:24] <desso> SocialistPig: how?
[15:25] <aatifh> But still doesn't work
[15:25] <aatifh> judgepg, It still doesn't work
[15:25] <acicula> aatifh, java_home is not the same ass the classpath
[15:25] <Marco___> hello, I have a problem with KWin... at startup it crashes and doesn't let me type anything anywhere with my keyboard
[15:25] <desso> SocialistPig: you mean gnome-screensaver-command -- lock?
[15:25] <Shazzam6999> MrKeuner: I honestly don't really know gnome that well, but it seems like x is using a lot more resources than it should be
[15:25] <SocialistPig> something like that
[15:25] <Marco___> also some windows locations are messed up
[15:26] <judgepg> I'm pretty sure a quick google on adding Java 6 in Google would bring up a step-by-step article.  Not an unreasonable question
[15:26] <desso> SocialistPig: but it didnt work over ssh
[15:26] <MrKeuner> Shazzam6999, would you think a reboot would help? I usually just have it sleep
[15:26] <aatifh> acicula, Then how do i fix that?
[15:26] <acicula> i dont even know what you are trying
[15:26] <SocialistPig> im out of ideas =/
[15:26] <desso> okay :)
[15:26] <gp5st> is there a good music-library program (for mac or linux) that is good at handling the metadata for classical music? itunes just doesn't cut it most of the time
[15:26] <Tommi-CZ> hi all
[15:27] <Shazzam6999> MrKeuner: theres no reason not to try it, might be a memory leak or something
[15:28] <churl> where is an xfce4 session if not in ~/.config/xfce4-session ?
[15:28] <Tommi-CZ> it´s here anything ??
[15:28] <judgepg> aatifh, see: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-ubuntu-linux-install-configure-jdk-jre/
[15:28] <MrKeuner> Shazzam6999, ok, thanks
[15:28] <ertu> Hello, what could cause screen blinking and theme reset -- ie GTK controls have win95 look and feel, window borders are ok
[15:28] <Shazzam6999> MrKeuner: no problem, good luck
[15:29] <actionparsnip> Shazzam6999: tried a different theme?
[15:29] <Shazzam6999> actionparsnip: MrKeuner is actually having problems with X eating up his resources
[15:30] <Tommi-CZ> motherfucker, i am sink in any game :(
[15:30] <Tommi-CZ> shit
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> !ohmy
[15:30] <maco> Tommi-CZ: language
[15:31] <Tommi-CZ> what ??
[15:31] <bazhang> Tommi-CZ, did you have an Ubuntu support question?
[15:31] <Tommi-CZ> i am from Czech Republic, my English is not well :)
[15:31] <Tommi-CZ> :D
[15:31] <actionparsnip> Shazzam6999: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:31] <bazhang> Tommi-CZ, there is NO cursing here
[15:32] <Tommi-CZ> go fuck mother guy
[15:32] <acicula> !cz
[15:32] <costre> close but no scar
[15:32] <Topkiller> hi
[15:33] <krachny> hi
[15:33] <ja660k> hey all, is there any way i can install ubuntu server... without booting, because i cant find my ps2 to usb adapter, and its an older computer?, it already had ubuntu server on it i want a fresh install
[15:33] <Topkiller> need some help plz
[15:33] <churl> well, i Do have an ubuntu support question.  i need to kill a session in xfce4
[15:33] <acicula> costre, sigar, feel free to correct
[15:33] <churl> a session with no panels
[15:33] <Topkiller> flash don't work well dunno why
[15:33] <costre> acicula, It was intentional :) *Cigar btw*
[15:34] <Topkiller> i tried opera firefox with adobe flash and with gnash and .... always the same
[15:34] <VCoolio> churl: ctrl+alt+f1, then kill what you want, or alt+prntscrn+k
[15:34] <Topkiller> someone?
[15:34] <ja660k> anybody?
[15:34] <costre> ja660k, I think my USB keyboard worked during installation .. have you tried it?
[15:35] <desso> what does    nohup cat /dev/tty0   on ubuntu10?
[15:35] <ja660k> no, but i will give it a shot, i cannot remember if it did or not
[15:35] <actionparsnip> Topkiller: what is the output of: uname -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[15:35] <desso> someone an idea?
[15:35] <krachny> Topkiller: sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[15:35] <actionparsnip> Topkiller: use http://pastebin.com to give the output
[15:35] <wmcinnis> hi all got a question i noticed that the latest version for development wine is 1.1.44 and the latest devel that ubuntu has is 1.1.42 when will this be updated?
[15:35] <jesi> How do I rotate the pictures and save the changes? Ristretto doesnt save the changes.
[15:35] <Xerran> Does anyone know why 10.04 locks up randomly?
[15:36] <knutmithut> locks up means freezes?
[15:36] <Xerran> ya
[15:36] <actionparsnip> wmcinnis: you can add the wine ppa, some apps like different versions of wine, so newer != better
[15:36] <knutmithut> dunno.. but i have noticed that also!
[15:36] <mamanuik> So I'm learning to use Vim and have this question: I'm using Ubuntu and have made the shortcut "Ctrl + Alt + v" starts gvim. But then from within gvim when I want to use the explorer function i write ":e ." this opens "/". How can I make it open my home dir "~" instead?
 at the moment i'm using adobe flash
[15:36] <ja660k> costre, nope :(
[15:36] <Xerran> I'm not even using Compiz
[15:36] <actionparsnip> jesi: imagemagick can do it, and more
[15:36] <SocialistPig> xerran what video card you using?
[15:36] <Xerran> Normal settings
[15:36] <actionparsnip> Topkiller: but do you get flash when you visit sites?
[15:36] <Marco___> so nobody has KWin crashes at startup I guess...
[15:36] <knutmithut> on a dual core machine it freezes.. without any reason.. i've thought it's only on my installation
[15:36] <wmcinnis> actionparsnip, i added the ppa http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu
[15:37] <jesi> can u give command to install? actionparsnip
[15:37] <desso> what does    nohup cat /dev/tty0    on ubuntu10? I cant test it, because i have no ubuntu here. HELp please :(
 flash works well in almost all web but don't work in flash chatroom
[15:37] <Xerran> it's a ATi Mobility radeon HD 4200 on a Lenovo G555 laptop
[15:37] <costre> ja660k, And you dont have any old ps2keyboards laying around like we all do? :D
[15:37] <actionparsnip> !imagemagick
[15:37] <Guest29845> xbmc not responding to lirc commands unless I
[15:37] <actionparsnip> jesi: sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[15:37] <ja660k> unfortunately, gone the way of spring cleaning =(
[15:37] <apfelsaft> hello
[15:37] <hamzaatova3> any tool to upload big files and send them to someone?
[15:37] <Marco___> could it be an ATI issue?
[15:37] <actionparsnip> wmcinnis: then thats the ppa maintained by the wine guys
[15:37] <Guest29845> xbmc -l /var/run/lirc/lircd
[15:38] <costre> jesi, The standard image viewer in ubuntu can rotate images and save them
[15:38] <ja660k> so theres no apt-get command that will restore to when i first installed?
[15:38] <SocialistPig> possibly an ati thing
[15:38] <SocialistPig> id install proprietary driver
[15:38] <actionparsnip> Topkiller: ok, can you give the output of the command, i my be able to advise
[15:38] <Xerran> I am using the drivers that ubuntu provided in the restricted driver section
[15:38] <apfelsaft> I need to remove ubuntu from my laptop so I can return it to the store because of a fault, I'm worried that they might use the linux installation as a reason to charge me etc.
 is always saying connection and don't go further
[15:38] <Marco___> SocialistPig: I was talking about my issue... ^^
[15:38] <jesi> i have xubuntu
[15:38] <SocialistPig> whats your issue O.O
[15:38] <wmcinnis> well i have the drivers from ubuntu and it broke my suspend and hibernate :(
[15:38] <churl> VCoolio: i need to rm a session.  I "saved session" then on restart, the session it gave me was one from jaunty days and now i have no panel and can't find where xfce is storing that session
[15:39] <Marco___> I told it about 10 minutes ago... but I'll repeat
[15:39] <Marco___> KWin crashes at startup
[15:39] <apfelsaft> I'm running vista, and I have an ubuntu installation on a seperate partition which has grub on it. I don't have a vista cd, so I'm not sure if I can restore the windows bootloader once I remove the ubuntu partition
[15:39] <Xerran> suspend and hibernate work fine for me
[15:39] <VCoolio> jesi: after installing imagemagick use this custom action to rotate images in thunar: convert -rotate 90 %f %f-rotated
 for the output i have to install gnash right ?
[15:39] <erUSUL> desso: nothing usefull
[15:39] <apfelsaft> are there any other ways I can restore the windows bootloader afterwards without a cd?
[15:39] <wmcinnis> yeah easybcd
[15:39] <desso> erUSUL: :( it didnt lock the keyboard?
[15:40] <dbum> I've just recently installed VirtualBox (closed source) on 10.04
[15:40] <frogdog> anyone tried ubuntu music store?
[15:40] <Xerran> everything works fine. It just locks up randomly
[15:40] <desso> apfelsaft: halle :)
[15:40] <wmcinnis> apfelsaft, easybcd
[15:40] <actionparsnip> apfelsaft: you cn use supergrub
[15:40] <desso> *hallo :(
[15:40] <frogdog> it says: logging in now for a looong time
[15:40] <apfelsaft> hello
[15:40] <apfelsaft> lol
[15:40] <apfelsaft> okay
[15:40] <apfelsaft> I'll check those out
[15:40] <FloodBot2> apfelsaft: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:40] <erUSUL> desso: it can affect an users session; that's why i say it soes nothing usefull
[15:40] <Marco___> SocialistPig: I'm trying to check around on internet... no luck up to now... I think I'll have to reinstall everything
[15:40] <jesi> It tells me that I alreadt have imagemagick but I cant find it!
[15:41] <Jhinta> hi all need some help with myth and dvb
[15:41] <DonScott> apfelsaft: just put the windows cd in and have it format and re-install windows
[15:41] <Jhinta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/433870/
[15:41] <dbum> I've just recently installed VirtualBox (closed source) on 10.04 and can not save the current state... it hangs up @ like 97 percent and hard drive goes crazy for like a minute.... I could save state with 9.10 and it was super quick.... any ideas?
[15:41] <erUSUL> jesi: imagemagick is comman line set of tools
[15:41] <desso> erUSUL: its better if i didnt work with this?
[15:41] <desso> do u have a other ides?
[15:41] <Jhinta> is there a fix so i can add a frondend to it
[15:41] <erUSUL> desso: what are you trying to do ?
[15:41] <actionparsnip> Marco___: do other WMs crash?
[15:41] <jesi> How to I launch it?
[15:42] <erUSUL> jesi: what you want to do ?
[15:42] <VCoolio> jesi: it's a commandline application
[15:42] <desso> i would lock the mouse and keyboard over ssh
[15:42] <desso> @ erUSUL
[15:42] <VCoolio> jesi: you call it with 'convert'
[15:42] <jesi> Rotate some pictures and save the changes
[15:42] <Marco___> actionparsnip: what is WM?
[15:42] <actionparsnip> jesi: it gives more commoand line commands like convert
[15:42] <erUSUL> jesi: use "mogrify" command then then
[15:42] <actionparsnip> Marco___: Window Manager, like kwin, metacity, openbox, compiz
[15:42] <erUSUL> jesi: man mogrify
[15:42] <jesi> is there a simple aplication?  Mt sister is not tech savvy
[15:43] <gkahla> actionparsnip - cool nick dude!
[15:43] <actionparsnip> gkahla: its a harry hill joke :)
[15:43] <apfelsaft> thanks guys, I think that's got it
[15:43] <apfelsaft> cheers
[15:43] <erUSUL> jesi: gthumb or f-spot can rotate images you see with them
[15:43] <SocialistPig> marco
[15:43] <erUSUL> jesi: i personally like gthumb better
[15:43] <desso> erUSUL: an other idea?
[15:43] <VCoolio> jesi: put it in the context menu of thunar with custom actions like I suggested
[15:43] <ogen> my ubuntu  (AMD, 9.10) freezes: how much free memory do I need on my HD?  Can I defrag a drive in Ubuntu?  What's the equivalent of check/scan-disk in Ubuntu?
[15:43] <SocialistPig> type kwin crash it suggests ati =/
[15:44] <Marco___> actionparsnip: I'm using only KWin for now...
[15:44] <erUSUL> desso: you want to block the local kb and mouse over ssh ?
[15:44] <actionparsnip> ogen: ext3 and ext4 do not need defragging
[15:44] <desso> erUSUL: yes
[15:44] <actionparsnip> Marco___: sure but are others ok?
[15:44] <actionparsnip> !requirements | ogen
[15:44] <Mutant> hi
[15:44] <ogen> actionparsnip, I have a windows disk I use for storage. It has windows on it
[15:44] <Mutant> I am loving Ubuntu
[15:45] <desso> erUSUL: think only that i am a teacher and would that all peopls stop working - or something like that :D
[15:45] <gkahla> Mutant, glad to hear it -
[15:45] <actionparsnip> ogen: fsck is used to check partitions, do it ni a live cd as fscking a mounted partition is not advised
[15:45] <ogen> actionparsnip, will check. I didnt know that included "free space"
[15:45] <erUSUL> desso: just disable the accaunts ?
[15:45] <Marco___> actionparsnip: I've only KWin installed
[15:45] <ertu> what could cause screen blinking and theme reset -- ie GTK controls have win95 look and feel, whereas window borders are ok
[15:45] <desso> erUSUL: ?? You mean unlock?
[15:45] <desso> and lock?
[15:45] <Xerran> Anyone know if Ubuntu uses less power than windows on a laptop?
[15:46] <ogen> actionparsnip, sounds nasty, heh. fsck. will look it up.
[15:46] <wmcinnis> Xerran, it can if set up correctly
[15:46] <actionparsnip> Marco___: install more then.....
[15:46] <actionparsnip> ogen: what sounds nasty?
[15:46] <desso> erUSUL: first i would make it with (gnome-screensaver-command --lock) but it doesnt work over ssh
[15:46] <Xerran> wmcinnis: can u please help me?
[15:47] <wmcinnis> Xerran, with?
[15:47] <Xerran> any links?
[15:47] <ogen> my ubuntu  (AMD, 9.10) freezes: I rebooted 2 times today. But this time it's staying.
[15:47] <hamzaatova3> any tool to upload big files and send them to someone?????????????????????????????????????????????????
[15:47] <krachny> Xerran: Ubuntu uses more than Win7 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_windows_part2&num=1
[15:47] <wmcinnis> Xerran,  ill find you some.
[15:47] <erUSUL> desso: DISPLAY=:0.0 gnome-screensaver-command --lock
[15:47] <ogen> actionparsnip: I was off topic. Please forgive me thinking about f-suck.
[15:47] <Xerran> thx
[15:47] <bazhang> hamzaatova3, a single ? will suffice
[15:47]  * ogen laffs.
[15:47] <desso> erUSUL: sure? (sorry but i cant test it. iam at home)
 here is the output please take a look http://pastebin.com/Q7wU6pM3
[15:48] <Xerran> krachny: I'm only running normal graphic settings
[15:48] <actionparsnip> ogen: its short for (f)ile (s)ystem (c)hec(k)
[15:48] <Marco___> actionparsnip: I can't... my wifi connection doesn't start unless i provide the password... and I can't type anything
[15:48] <Xerran> no Compiz
[15:48] <erUSUL> desso: probably
[15:48] <krachny> Xerran: Thats the only infos I have, haven't tried it by myself
[15:48] <actionparsnip> Marco___: you could use a wired connection or use the livecd to install from
[15:48] <desso> :) thanks
[15:48] <kim__> got one little problem with my wireless.. Sometimes it connect, after 10 sec, it disconnect, reconnect, disconnect after 10 sec... If I restart its ok sometimes.. Anyone? =)
[15:49] <wmcinnis> Xerran, look in the /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[15:49] <wmcinnis> /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/
[15:49] <Marco___> actionparsnip: i'm in livecd right now
[15:49] <desso> erUSUL: thanks a lot :). Do you know the command to unlock? Because i must give a password, too.
[15:49] <actionparsnip> kim__: when it drops run:  dmesg | tail -n 15     the output will give guides
[15:49] <ogen> actionparsnip: as dorky-unknowing-clueless-and-blindered as I am now. I remember back in 1965 when I was a programmer, mainframe Fortran, there were also abbreviations like that.
[15:50] <erUSUL> desso: no; sorry.... all of this "use case" is quite unusual.
[15:50] <actionparsnip> Marco___: you could chroot to the installed system and install a different WM there
[15:50] <Xerran> wmcinnis: looking now.. thx
[15:50] <wmcinnis> Xerran, np
[15:50] <actionparsnip> ogen: unix, linux and bsd ae full of them
[15:50] <desso> erUSUL: do you know who can know it? :)
[15:50] <Topkiller> need help with flash don't run in chatroms take a look at output plz http://pastebin.com/Q7wU6pM3
[15:51] <Marco___> actionparsnip: you mean now, from livecd?
[15:51] <wmcinnis> Topkiller, did you install flash64 bit or 32 bit?
[15:51] <actionparsnip> Marco___: sure, thats one of the great things of linux
[15:51] <Topkiller> wmcinnis 32 i guess
[15:52] <wmcinnis> do you have a 64bit system?
[15:52] <Topkiller> no is a laptop
[15:52] <actionparsnip> Topkiller: try: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:52] <om26er> how can I remove suspend from indicator-session ?
 ok
[15:52] <actionparsnip> Topkiller: its 32bit, the i686 bit of your output shows the OS is 32bit
[15:53] <Marco___> jester-: what WM should I install?
[15:53] <actionparsnip> Marco___: openbox :)    light and fast :)
[15:53] <Shai_-> hi, is there a bugzilla please, i cant find it ... :s
[15:53] <actionparsnip> !bug
[15:55] <hamzaatova3> any tool to upload big files and send them to someone?????????????????????????????????????????????????
[15:55] <acicula> hamzaatova3, ftp?
[15:55] <actionparsnip> hamzaatova3: there used to be woof
[15:55] <actionparsnip> hamzaatova3: rapidshare maybe
[15:55] <Shai_-> !bugzilla
[15:55] <Shai_-> :D
[15:55] <wmcinnis> hamzaatova3, you can tar it up and rapidshare it
[15:56] <Shai_-> i need to find the list of known bugs for a known package
[15:56] <actionparsnip> hamzaatova3: if you setup an ssh service on the system accessible from the web you can use sshfs
[15:56] <ogen> actionparsnip, that's so. and so it's sort of warming me up to linux. It feels more like whatever I did then. (Sperry Rand and Univac -- oh those words sound so old. laffs)
[15:56] <actionparsnip> Shai_-: ubuntu-bug packagename
[15:56] <wmcinnis> hamzaatova3, or if you setup a apache service on your box you can have them download it right from your pc
[15:56] <LinuxGuy2009> Is there any channels that I can get some help with clearing off a folder that shows up on ubuntu one website but doesnt actualy exist? Its like a bug. Who can i get to fix it?
[15:57] <al-tabq> does the tag editor kid3 require additional packages to work with mp3?
[15:57] <Shai_-> actionparsnip: im using gentoo currently so dont have this package here :P, there is no online site as other distros ?
[15:57] <al-tabq> i installed lame but it still doesn't compile
[15:58] <wmcinnis> Shai_-,  i think gentoo has a bugslist as well let me check
[15:58] <erUSUL> !find kid3
[15:58] <Topkiller> I guess i have 2 flash now eh eh eh
[15:58] <actionparsnip> Shai_-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[15:58] <wmcinnis> Shai_-, bugs.gentoo.org
[15:58] <Topkiller> plz check http://pastebin.com/B5PDjyNN
[15:58] <Shai_-> wmcinnis: i know there is one
[15:58] <Shai_-> :_
[15:58] <Shai_-> but i was looking for the ubuntus one :_
[15:59] <wmcinnis> Shai_-, ahh
[15:59] <actionparsnip> Shai_-: i gave you a link
 plz check http://pastebin.com/B5PDjyNN
[15:59] <erUSUL> al-tabq: why are you compiling it ?
[15:59] <Shai_-> thx actionparsnip :)
[15:59] <erUSUL> al-tabq: sudo aptitude install kid3
[15:59] <actionparsnip> Topkiller: its blank
[15:59] <ogen> I'd like to mention to all there is a wonderful resource for questions and answers at http://ubuntuforums.org/
[15:59] <al-tabq> erUSUL, i use qt. it just doesn't work with mp3 files by default
[15:59] <actionparsnip> al-tabq: could use easytag
[16:00] <Topkiller> sorry this one http://pastebin.com/eaxbrb08
 sorry this one http://pastebin.com/eaxbrb08
[16:00] <jesi> WHen I try uploading pictures to myspace they dont appear on the folder.
[16:00] <al-tabq> erUSUL, i could, but kid3 should work as well...i installed lame and it still won't open mp3 files
[16:01] <erUSUL> al-tabq: id3tags usually use a different lib
[16:01] <leagris> hello, I have issue with aiccu init script being invoked too early before aiccu start. I worked around by disabling aiccu startup from init and adding post-up post-down calls to eth0 in interfaces. Is that a known issue and did I fix this with the correct method?
[16:01] <erUSUL> !find id3
[16:01] <erUSUL> al-tabq: like this libid3tag0
[16:01] <actionparsnip> leagris: if it works then i'd say its fine
[16:01] <jesi> How to install Java??
[16:01] <actionparsnip> !java | jesi
[16:01] <al-tabq> erUSUL, i have that one...
[16:01] <marienz> leagris: oh, interesting, I may be hitting the same thing
[16:02] <krachny> Topkiller: this is okay, your flash is setup properly
[16:02] <al-tabq> erUSUL, i'm thinking, maybe the files i'm trying to edit are broken..i tried some other mp3s and it worked fine so probably something went wrong while encoding
[16:02] <actionparsnip> Topkiller: you sure its flash based?
[16:02] <leagris> marienz, the init sequence invoked aiccu before eth0 up
[16:02] <erUSUL> al-tabq: that was an example, kid3 may use another. the configure script should tell you what is missing if you insist on compiling it
 yea
[16:03] <marienz> leagris: how does it fail?
[16:03] <marienz> leagris: I see  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/214295/ in /var/log/syslog, is that the same issue?
[16:03] <leagris> marienz, failed without sixxs interface and I had to startup it manually
 my flash works fine but ,,, 2 games with flash chat don't work
[16:03] <al-tabq> erUSUL, it looks like i was thinking too complicated from the beginning
[16:03] <al-tabq> erUSUL thanks anyway
[16:03] <marienz> leagris: I'd noticed I had to start aiccu manually, but I hadn't investigated why it wasn't starting at boot yet.
[16:03] <erUSUL> al-tabq: sudo aptitude install kid3
[16:04] <erUSUL> al-tabq: done
[16:04]  * Dr_Willis wonders if installing java is covered in the Ubuntu 10.04 manual.
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[16:04] <Topkiller> empire universe 2 from looki don't work
[16:04] <bumbblebee> hi, i am installing lucid, any advice?
[16:04] <Topkiller> desert operation from looki don't work also
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> looki? or Loki ?
[16:05] <actionparsnip> Topkiller: i'm at work on xp right now I can check if you want
[16:05] <iDope> bumblebee: have fun.. and get your partitioning right for max performance
 in windows works well
[16:06] <desso> how can i delet all content of /home/username   every login
[16:06] <bG303> help, ubuntu server refuses to boot. get to nfs mount, nfs server not there and hangs, unable to get a shell or ssh in. no idea whether nfs/mountall is the actual fault
[16:06] <bumbblebee> iDope, i can partition? last time i installed i din't
[16:07] <ja660k> whats the difference between mysql and postgreSQL
[16:07] <marienz> leagris: I don't know what the right fix is, but assuming that snippet from syslog is the same issue I can confirm it :)
[16:07] <iDope> bumbblebee: Yes, you can. But its not mandatory.
 http://www.looki.com/gaming/empire_universe_2_s75.html
[16:07] <iDope> desso: You are logging in using what? Logging into gnome or logging into bash?
[16:07] <bumbblebee> iDope, so can suggest me good configuration for partition?
[16:07] <desso> iDope: gnome
[16:08] <desso> or bash
[16:08] <erUSUL> desso: put « rm -rf ~/* » on ~/.profile
[16:08] <ShawnRisk> I am having trouble getting the mouse cursor to show up when I wakeup my laptop from sleep. Using Dell Inspiron 1501.  I can move the mouse away but no pointer is there.  Any ideas?
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> heh.. removes profile so it dosent work the next time..
[16:08] <desso> erUSUL: its delet completly all?
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> desso:  whats the point of this anyway?
[16:09] <iDope> bumbblebee: what is your disk size. And are you dual booting?
[16:09] <leagris> marienz, here is what I did (adapt ipv6 to your network) http://paste.ubuntu.com/433884/
[16:09] <erUSUL> desso: not sure about dot files
[16:09] <rrrt> alguien sabe como destrabar el mouse?
[16:09] <bG303> any idea how i can get to a command prompt ? where do i start for diag ....
[16:09] <erUSUL> !es | rrrt
[16:09] <iDope> desso: that will delete EVERYTHING including .files and .profile itself
[16:09] <iDope> so it will only work the first time
[16:09] <VCoolio> desso: I think it's a very bad idea, but put it in /etc/rc.local using full path, not ~/
[16:09] <churl> Does xfce4  still hold session files in ~/.config/xfce4-session/ and might this explain my lacking panels (ie, having no session?)
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> self destructing home dirs. :)
[16:10] <iDope> desso: I totally agree with VCoolio
[16:10] <desso> hmm
[16:10] <iDope> why would you wan't a self destructing home directory anyway
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> THere is a ubuntu 'guest' login feature..
[16:10] <ShawnRisk> anyone have ideas on my question?
[16:10] <iDope> if there is a specific thing which irritates you, handle that and only that..
[16:11] <desso> Dr_Willis: yes but i must login first and than choose guest mode
[16:11] <desso> a too long way :)
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> desso:  theres some extra that puts a guest in GDM. i recall
[16:11] <bvalek2> hi, the network manager applet is not visible on 10.04, how do i get it back? (wifi works, i use it with live CD now)
[16:11] <iDope> ShawnRisk: the cursor works but isn't visible?
[16:11] <Hekos_> hey, where are private/encription keys located ( the ones managed by gnome)? i want to put them inside ~/Private..
[16:11] <ShawnRisk> iDope: yes
[16:11] <leagris> marienz, forgot to paste post-down invoke-rc.d --force aiccu stop
[16:12] <bumbblebee> iDope, 320 GB
[16:12] <leagris> may be it should be pre-down
[16:12] <desso> Dr_Willis: that mean, that i login and am direcly in the guest mode?
[16:12] <iDope> bvalek2: open up a console.. type "killall nm-applet; nm-applet > /dev/null &; "
[16:12] <bumbblebee> iDope, i am not using dual, but i am using vbox
[16:12] <bumbblebee> iDope, for windows
[16:12] <Narya> why wont my launcher to /usr/bin/vim work?
[16:12] <bG303> help, ubuntu server refuses to boot. get to nfs mount, nfs server not there and hangs, unable to get a shell or ssh in. no idea whether nfs/mountall is the actual fault
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> desso:  i seem to recall some way to get the GDM screen to show a 'guest' account.. Or you could just make one. and have its contents reset at every bootup,. That would be easier then 'on login'
[16:13] <bG303> any idea how i can get to a command prompt ? where do i start for diag ....
[16:13] <ShawnRisk> iDope: the only way to get back the cursor is going to ctrl+alt+f1 and so on and coming back ctrl+alt+f7
[16:13] <erUSUL> bG303: boot into recovery mode ?
[16:13] <bvalek2> iDope: thanks, i try it
[16:13] <bG303> erUSUL, tried, no difference.
[16:13] <erUSUL> bG303: press shift during boot to get the boot menu (grub2)
[16:13] <iDope> bumbblebee: Then have a 400 MB /boot device as the topmost partition. A large (20 GB) / partition.. and a humongous /home partition with the rest of the space.
[16:13] <desso> Dr_Willis: where can i find the gdm screen?
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> desso:  gdm is where you login at.
[16:14] <desso> aha
 you are checking ?
[16:14] <bG303> how can i see where the boot is getting to ?
[16:14] <Narya> I can type /usr/bin/vim in terminal and it runs
[16:14] <iDope> ShawnRisk: well I really don't know what causes your curser to disappear or re-appear. Some Xorg expert might be able to help you better.
[16:14] <Narya> OH I remember now
[16:14] <kraig> im having issues i just installed ubuntu 10.04 and im not having no sound at al
[16:15] <erUSUL> bG303: #ubuntu-server. remove quiet and splash from the grub kernel command line
[16:15] <ShawnRisk> :(
[16:15] <erUSUL> !grub2 | bG303
[16:15] <FriedrichMan> hey everyone
[16:15] <FriedrichMan> got a problem trying to reboot thru crontab
[16:15] <bG303> erUSUL,  thanks
[16:15] <bG303> ubottu, cheers
[16:15] <ogen> actionparsnip, could you please help me on this freezing issue? I saved the logfile plus some other stuff. I just rebooted after a fall. -- http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/eNaPLec2
[16:15] <ertu> what could cause screen blinking and theme reset -- ie GTK controls have win95 look and feel, whereas window borders are ok
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> !info gdm-guest-session
[16:16] <bumbblebee> iDope, if i got u rite.. /boot 400 MB, / 20 GB and rest for home?
[16:16] <FriedrichMan> I try to reboot adding this line "13 12 15 5 * reboot" and it doesn't work
[16:16] <ShawnRisk> anyone else can help me?
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> FriedrichMan:  you may want to give the full path to reboot.
[16:17] <FriedrichMan> meaning I want it to reboot on minute 13 hour 12 day 15 month 5
[16:17] <FriedrichMan> Dr_Willis what do you mean the full path to reboot?
[16:17] <Dr_Willis>  /the/full/path/is/a/good/idea/bin/command
[16:17] <VCoolio> FriedrichMan: use full path to the command, so /sbin/reboot; also try shutdown -r now
[16:18] <FriedrichMan> ............/bin/reboot?
[16:18] <bumbblebee> iDope,  are u ther
[16:18] <battaglia> goodbye everybody
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> whever reboot is at.
[16:18] <VCoolio> FriedrichMan: 'which reboot' will tell you, also, can it be run as user?
[16:18] <Dr_Willis>  /sbin/reboot   - that may be the whole issue.. sbin may not be in the default path
[16:18] <iDope> bumbblebee: yes that would be OK.
[16:19] <FriedrichMan> VCoolio I think it can't be used as user
[16:19]  * ogen is really really hoping for help on this FREEZE issue. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/eNaPLec2  -- 9.10
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> THeres ways to let a user use reboot. (not a good idea on a multiuser ssytem) :)
[16:19] <theos> hey what should i do if a full screen application/game hangs and doesnt respond?
[16:19] <iDope> the partitions closer to the start of the physical device are faster than the ones at the end.
[16:19] <iDope> so /boot should be first, / should be second
[16:19] <iDope> and /home last
[16:19] <nytek_> can anybody help me troubleshoot my suspend issue?
[16:20] <bumbblebee> ok
[16:20] <Geistkampfer> hello! is it okay to install ubuntu on an existing partition (68GB) next to my windows partition? shoudl I use GParted to format the partition?
[16:20] <FriedrichMan> Dr_Willis is there a way to reboot using crontab some other way?
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> Geistkampfer:  you normally format it as part of the install
[16:20] <bumbblebee> iDope, the setup will promt me for thi rite?
[16:20] <plasma1> Helloooooo!
[16:20] <bumbblebee> this*
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> FriedrichMan:  never noticed or tried to do a automated reboot,.
[16:20] <FriedrichMan> oh,..
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> Geistkampfer:  you could leave the part of the HD unalocated and let the installer autoparttion the unallocated part.
[16:21] <FriedrichMan> what if I add the line having done sudo bash before?
[16:21] <ShawnRisk> what's new?
[16:21] <FriedrichMan> would it be added as root?
[16:21] <Geistkampfer> Dr_Willis: ah okay I'll try
[16:21] <battaglia> #oce@n
[16:21] <quidnunc> How do I use chroot with X11?
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> FriedrichMan:  you dont do sudo in crontab. and stuff in cron i think is allready running as root. Test your stuff out with a easier to debug command
[16:21] <Geistkampfer> Dr_Willis: I'm trying this from the Live USB
[16:21] <iDope> bumbblebee: Yes
[16:21] <VCoolio> FriedrichMan: rather use 'sudo crontab -e' (you may end up with vi there)
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> Geistkampfer:  trying what exactly?  I install from a live-usb all the time. same as using the cd basically
[16:22] <VCoolio> FriedrichMan: the shutdown command has a builtin timer function, check that
[16:23] <Geistkampfer> Dr_Willis: trying to install the Ubuntu. I was to afraid to go  on with the partitioning lol
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> Geistkampfer:  i always just set up the HD so i got part unallocated. and let the installer handle it.
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> Geistkampfer:  it will make a / and a swap. normally
[16:23] <actionparsnip> Dr_Willis: seperate home partition is good :)
[16:23] <blue_anna> if I change the default font size in gnome terminal bash doesn't wrap lines properly
[16:23] <ewdafa> hi guys. so i've managed to mess up a package 'nsd3' on my ubuntu server 10.04. i'll explain what i did. i installed the package, inspected its config, then decided to remove the package, noticed the /etc/nsd3 dir still exists and removed that too, and attempted to reinstall the package, but it seems no amount of --force-all -r etc etc options will get it back onto my system, it always complains the /etc/nsd3/nsd.conf file do
 u checked the site ?
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> actionparsnip:  can  be.. but ubuntu dont do it by default.
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  odd.. it wraps fine here. no matter how large a font i use
[16:24] <Geistkampfer> Dr_Willis: can I just do it in the installation? the partition that I will use is NTFS and has unused data in it
[16:24] <blue_anna> Dr_Willis: I don't get this problem on xterm .. but then again, I can't change the font size there :P
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  you are using a MONO spaced font?
[16:25] <blue_anna> Dr_Willis: Monospace 14
[16:25] <wad> Hi guys. I've ordered a new Lenovo laptop. Intel Core i7-820QM Processor (8M Cache, 1.73 GHz), 8GB RAM. I'm going to be doing Java development on it. Question: Should I put the 64-bit Ubuntu or the 32-bit Ubuntu on it?
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  xterm -fn XXXXXXXXX to change size :)
[16:25] <blue_anna> oo no, Liberation Mono 14
[16:25] <SocialistPig> wad: 64
[16:25] <chandrageetha> How to check whether a package say java is installed on the system?
[16:25] <actionparsnip> Dr_Willis: yeah true but the installer cant guess how much space joe average needs for / too well ;)
[16:25] <mankash> how to make fonts smaller, somehow fonts have become bigger in display, everything on the screen is big
[16:25] <bramkok> wad: ubuntu 64 gives you a hard time sometimes when you install software that's incompatible
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  using Liberation 20 right now. Its working fine. What programs are doing the issue?
[16:26] <SocialistPig> but 32 wont recognize all his ram
[16:26] <wad> bramkok, ah. What does the "hard time" look like?
[16:26] <bramkok> wad: but you can easily find workarounds most of the time
[16:26] <VCoolio> chandrageetha: dpkg -l java or 'apt-cache policy exact-packagename' for example
[16:26] <blue_anna> Dr_Willis: it's bash .. if I scroll through my history, or if the line gets too long, it wraps wrog, and will eat lines above it in the display
[16:26] <bramkok> wad: well sometimes there are programs that aren't 64 compatible
[16:26] <quidnunc> Anyone know how to use xephyr with a chroot?
[16:26] <actionparsnip> bramkok: 64bit OS can run 32bit apps using ia32-libs
[16:26] <creat0r> there is any way to monitor or control my bandwidth just from terminal?
[16:26] <wad> bramkok, hopefully all the important stuff is 64-bit compatible, though?
[16:27] <bramkok> wad: though i would recommend you use 64 because your hardware asks for it
[16:27] <bramkok> wad: yeah it's a minor inconvience
[16:27] <bramkok> wad: like actionparsnip says you need that lib
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  so the issue is Only with the scroll bar?
[16:27] <wad> bramkok, okay. I'll go with 64-bit. And I imagine I'll get good at dealing with incompatible software.
[16:27] <blue_anna> no the scroll*bar* is fine :P
[16:27]  * wad snags the name of that lib.
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  using sixe 30 font now in gnome-terminal trying to verify. Not seeing the issue.
[16:28] <SocialistPig> wad its not too big an issue and its less and less all the time
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  you mean the HISTORY command output dosent wrap properly?
[16:28] <blue_anna> Dr_Willis: it is that bash is getting the wrong information about the window so it wraps wrong
[16:28] <actionparsnip> wad: 64bit is getting more support now but there is 64bit flash and java so you dont have to worry there
[16:28] <blue_anna> Dr_Willis: no I mean up arrow and down arrow
[16:28] <ShawnRisk> seems no one can help me
[16:28] <LukeConnell> Hi everyone
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  ahh.. ok.. are you using a fancy bash prompt?
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  lots of colors or other fancy features?
[16:29] <blue_anna> Dr_Willis: and it isnt my escape codes in the PS1 variable, because I tried setting my prompt to "-------------$" and I still get this issue
[16:29] <Topkiller> actionparsnip did u debug that flash chat ?
[16:29] <wad> SocialistPig, thanks!
[16:29] <wad> actionparsnip, thanks!
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  i cant recreate the problem here.
[16:29] <blue_anna> Dr_Willis: I didnt get this problem whe I first set my bash prompt .. it's been a week or two and now suddenly I notice it debugging
[16:29] <SocialistPig> anytime :)
[16:30] <LukeConnell> I installed ubuntu 10. i'm running amd 64bit dual core processor with 4gb ram and when i use ubuntu my mouse doesn't have the freedom to switch between windows etc, anyone come across this?
[16:30] <blue_anna> Dr_Willis: yea I am thinking it must be one of the packages I installed .. but thy're all from the repository
[16:30] <LinuX2half> I have a problem enabling my desktop effect
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  i cant imagine what package would even affect that at all.
[16:30] <actionparsnip> Topkiller: nipped out for a smoke, whats the link again please
[16:30] <LinuX2half> When I select to enable desktop effect, it said it couldn't.
[16:30] <blue_anna> Dr_Willis: and none of the packages have been like "coreutils" etc
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  try making a new user with totally empty .bashrc and other .bash* files and see if affects them
[16:31] <actionparsnip> LinuX2half: you need to setup 3d accelleration on your video card
[16:31] <LinuX2half> How?
[16:31] <blue_anna> Dr_Willis: does it matter for this test if I just move my .bashrc stuff or do I actually need the new user?
[16:31] <blue_anna> Dr_Willis:  ;)
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  you could.
[16:31] <LukeConnell> it appears its a common problem to which the forums on ubuntu have no answers
 http://www.looki.com/gaming/empire_universe_2_s75.html
[16:32] <battagllia> bye
[16:32] <Ge5i> hi
 u must create and account to join :( i can't make 4 u because get banned (multiaccount)
[16:32] <Ge5i> how can i compile java script in ubuntu ?
[16:32] <actionparsnip> LinuX2half: run: sudo lshw -C display    websearch for the product line for guides
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> Err.. javascript is ran in a browser not compiled.. java can be 'compiled'  - i think i got tha right.
[16:33] <Damascene> hi, vinagre says, Could not get the active protocol in the protocol list.
[16:33] <creat0r> "ifconfig" could monitor my bandwidth?
[16:33] <actionparsnip> Topkiller: what browser and browser version are you using?
[16:33] <erUSUL> creat0r: iftop
[16:34] <onetinsoldier> Dr_Willis: sounds right to me
[16:34] <LukeConnell> is anyone aware of an issue with the latest release of ubuntu which causes the mouse not to freely select between windows?
 firefox
[16:34] <Ge5i> then how can i compile java
 firefox 3.6.3 canonical 1.0
[16:35] <tsyj2007> hi
[16:35] <actionparsnip> Topkiller: try adding the mozilla ppa and geting a later build of the same browser, may help
 ok but don't work with last opera also and in win yes :(
[16:36] <onetinsoldier> actionparsnip: where do you find these ppa's?
 go to check last firefox
[16:36] <LukeConnell> :( no ideas?
[16:37] <creat0r> erUSUL: iftop work only with interactiv interface?
[16:37] <actionparsnip> onetinsoldier: Topkiller https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
 ty ^^
[16:37] <actionparsnip> !ppa | onetinsoldier
[16:37] <onetinsoldier> actionparsnip: thank you... going to take a look now
[16:37] <actionparsnip> Topkiller: onetinsoldier: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:37] <hendry> I updated a newly installed 10.04 EEEPC and now I get a hang on "Checking battery state..." on boot, can anyone help?
[16:38] <onetinsoldier> actionparsnip: thanks. the bot one is what i believe i was looking. a list :) thanks again
[16:38] <onetinsoldier> looking for*
[16:38] <merve> hello
[16:38] <actionparsnip> onetinsoldier: there are many ppas ;)
[16:38] <theos> hey all
[16:38] <actionparsnip> hendry: are there any bugs logged?
[16:38] <e01> i am changing my boot loader screen to kubuntu, while trying to install kde
[16:38] <onetinsoldier> actionparsnip: roger. kind of figured there were becuase i see a lot of them mentioned here
[16:39] <e01> how can i switch back to default ubuntu lucid boot screen
[16:39] <onetinsoldier> because*
[16:39] <sdk_lnx> Hi, i'm able to record my audio output with gnome-record, but the sound is very low :/ any idea how can i solve this ?
[16:39] <onetinsoldier> e01: one sec
[16:39] <Gyndawyr> does the interface for picasa linux look like the same one for picasa windows?
[16:40] <theos> i have a problem with my ATI radeon card on ubuntu. i cant use the card for sound. also when i connect the headphones to the jack, both the speakers and headphones are on. any idea?
[16:40] <onetinsoldier> e01: on cammand line... sudo update-alternatives --config /etc/alternatives/default.plymouth
[16:40] <chandrageetha> how to download and install java tomcat and netbeans on 10.04
[16:40] <surge_> theos: what model card?
[16:40] <LinuX2half> how would I install flash?
[16:40] <rack> hola
[16:40] <hendry> actionparsnip: there are a ton from many releases https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=Checking+battery+state can't make sense of it
[16:40] <e01> onetinsoldier, update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for /etc/alternatives/default.plymouth.
[16:40]  * ogen is really really hoping for help on this FREEZE issue IN 9.10 (I just submitted it to Ubuntuforums since it's been about a month now.) http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/i4HDJ0Ac
[16:40] <rack> hola
[16:40] <actionparsnip> hendry: may help (may just be crunchbang, but its worth a shot) http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/424/cruncheee-81001-release-candidate-1/page/4/
[16:41] <rack> alguien save de linux
[16:41] <e01> onetinsoldier, may be some is missing :(
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> Gyndawyr:  last i looked picassa linux used a special versiopn of wine.. Ive not tried it in a few months however
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> Gyndawyr:  so the interface was identical
[16:41] <erUSUL> !es | rack
[16:42] <Gyndawyr> there is a beta version of picasa made for linux rather than using wine
[16:42] <onetinsoldier> e01: yes, i think you have some package missing. hang on while i try to ttrack down which one.... unfortunately  , dpkg -S /etc/alternatives/default.plymouth doesn't return anything
[16:42] <theos> surgeterrix, ATI Technologies Inc M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650]
[16:42] <Gyndawyr> at least I think there is
[16:42] <chandrageetha> my system gets crashed frequently telling some configuration error after upgradtion to 10.04. what to do ? pls help me
[16:42] <actionparsnip> Dr_Willis: seen how much native picasa hammers your cpu :(
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> actionparsnip:  all i used it for is generating Collage Wallpapers
[16:43] <onetinsoldier> e01: what output do you get from... dpkg -l plymouth plymouth-label plymouth-x11
[16:43] <rack> hola
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-picasa-3-5-in-ubuntu.html
[16:43] <bvalek2> i restarted nm-applet, it writes this:
[16:43] <bvalek2> ** (nm-applet:1996): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0
[16:43] <hendry> actionparsnip: i don't understand the boot loader anymore. was key press do i hit to get boot options? esc or any key doesn not work for me
[16:43] <actionparsnip> Dr_Willis: gotta love the geek ;)
[16:43] <bvalek2> and it doesnt display
[16:43] <bvalek2> ** (nm-applet:1996): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0
[16:43] <LukeConnell> anyone know of the mouse issues in version 10?
[16:43] <hoglahoo> Hello - is there someone who is willing to help me solve an nvidia issue?  My proprietary hardware driver indicator reads "this driver is activated but not current in use"
[16:44] <actionparsnip> hendry: hold shift when grub shows up (cursor in top left)
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> seems picasa does still use wine
[16:44] <SocialistPig> hoglahoo try sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:44] <Gyndawyr> give me a sec
[16:44] <rallias> I just installed a new KVM switch. How do i make it so that it uses the profile of my monitor than the one that it dectected for my KVM switch?
[16:44] <onetinsoldier> e01: what output do you get from the following command?  dpkg -l plymouth plymouth-label plymouth-x11
[16:44] <Gyndawyr> http://picasa.google.com/linux/
[16:45] <hendry> actionparsnip: i don't see a cursor, just goes straight into Ubuntu . . . .
[16:45] <e01> onetinsoldier,  http://nopaste.voric.com/paste.php?f=ugmexa
[16:45] <theos> surgeterrix, any help?
[16:46] <chandrageetha> hi, pls help me. my system frequently gets crashed after getting upgraded to 10.04. i gives errors like, run landscape configuration ......
[16:46] <rack> help
[16:46] <hoglahoo> SocialistPig: alright.  nothing seems to have changed yet
[16:46] <rack> hola
[16:46] <actionparsnip> hendry: then hold it from boot
[16:46] <SocialistPig> what you get for terminal output
[16:46] <rack> :)
[16:46] <rallias> chandrageetha make sure to pay attention and to not install new drivers thats probibilly the issue
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> e01: ok, roger. not sure what you're missing
[16:47] <hoglahoo> SocialistPig: I get Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf". Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup' New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[16:47] <rack> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
[16:47] <rack> bvalek2
[16:47] <SocialistPig> reboot
[16:47] <rack> bvalek2bvalek2
[16:47] <Gyndawyr> I seem to have silenced Dr_Willis :(
[16:47] <FloodBot2> rack: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:47] <hoglahoo> right
[16:47] <jpds> !es | rack
[16:47] <bvalek2> rack : yes?
[16:47] <onetinsoldier> e01: i don't know what you missing. it's possible you don't have any plymouth themes installed
[16:47] <theos> rack, /join #ubuntu-es
 damm still grrr is installed now 3.5.5pre and nothing
[16:48] <rack> nuce
[16:48] <rack> que pedo
[16:48] <theos> pedo?
[16:48] <rack> jaja
[16:48] <theos> :(
[16:48] <chandrageetha> yes, Mr.rallias, but automatically the monitor comes black and with some configuration error messages and at last totally blinking n blinking... what to do?
 i guess i gonna quit :(
[16:49] <greezmunkey> Good Day!
[16:49] <e01> onetinsoldier, however it is just a screen :D
[16:49] <rallias> chandrageetha: can you get logged in using an old kernal save when you boot to GRUB?
 really thx 4 all the time u spend with me :(
[16:49] <e01> thanks for try
[16:50] <chandrageetha> yes sir, but how?
[16:50] <rallias> It should offer multiple options as to kernal (Linux 2.6.20, 2.6.22, 2.6.24, etc...). You want to boot from the one just below latest
[16:50] <hoglahoo> SocialistPig: nothing has changed as far as I can tell
[16:50] <onetinsoldier> e01: here's what i have installed for plymouth and themes just in case you want to see... http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/b86Lciu7
 they change something in flash maybe and didn't test in linux only in win :(
[16:51] <hoglahoo> I did not get this error until I upgraded from K to L
[16:51] <e01> onetinsoldier, heh, i see themes in synaptic but how to change them?
[16:52] <onetinsoldier> e01: are the themes you see in synaptic installed on your system?
[16:52] <chandrageetha> i have ubuntu 10.04. now. it gives some recovery and general options only
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-do-you-change-the-boot-splash-screen-image-for-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[16:52] <e01> onetinsoldier,  yes, there installed
[16:52] <LukeConnell> could i please get some help with my ubuntu?
[16:52] <rallias> how do i make my computer act as a pseudo dns server that takes dns addresses from the router and passes it to my other computer?
[16:53] <rallias> Luke: Whats your issue?
[16:53] <onetinsoldier> e01: roger... again, try. i might have posted the command incorrectly the first time, sorry. --> sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[16:53] <abhinav> !help | LukeConnell
[16:53] <greezmunkey> rallias: that's caching dns server
[16:53] <rallias> greezmunkey: how would i go about it?
[16:54] <rallias> I'm not the only one who uses chatzilla?
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> !info pdnsd
[16:54] <LukeConnell> I've installed it 3 times on my system a few different ways to fix the issue but still the mouse not freely allowing me to switch between windows if i have multiple windows open on ubuntu 10 is preventing me from using it properly
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> wonder what that does. :)
[16:54] <LukeConnell> the issue doesn't happen running it from the cd
[16:54] <chandrageetha> how can regain the normal working with my OS?
[16:54] <greezmunkey> rallias: I followed a howto, I'll see if I can find it for you - pretty easy though...
[16:54] <rallias> greezmunkey: pm it to me if u find it
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> e01: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth   ...that command work for you? it works ok here
[16:55] <ertu> what could cause screen blinking and theme reset -- ie GTK controls have win95 look and feel, whereas window borders are ok
[16:55] <e01> onetinsoldier, yes i changed
[16:55] <rallias> is it possible to do it input wifi output eth0?
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> e01: awesome!
[16:55] <e01> and now will restart
[16:55] <e01> :D
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> e01: roger
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> onetinsoldier:  you need to do --> “sudo update-initramfs -u”   from what i amreading on some guides also
[16:55] <greezmunkey> rallias: this is the one: http://www.iwaniwanowitsch.net/Home/Information/Linux/Ubuntu/ZAPHU/ubuntu-dns-server-guide-bind-ca.pdf
[16:56] <chandrageetha> while working all on a sudden it goes black with some configuration error messages and leaves the monitor blinking with some white colours. it keeps on like that for ever. pls tell me what to do?
[16:56] <onetinsoldier> Dr_Willis: that command will do that automatically i think, if needed. and yep, i do believe it's needed
[16:56] <rallias> greezmunkey: thanks
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> onetinsoldier:  well this one guide says it dident.. the thread in the comments mention it..  Ive not really tested it with/without. Could be its a bug that got fixed.
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> onetinsoldier:  reading at --> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-do-you-change-the-boot-splash-screen-image-for-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[16:57] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: one question, do those themes affect your desktop of gnome??
[16:57] <marco___> hello everybody, is it necessary to upgrade 9.10's libraries before upgrading to 10.04?
[16:57] <greezmunkey> s/of/or
[16:57] <onetinsoldier> Dr_Willis: i'm thinking it was a bug that got fixed. i can try to change my plymouth theme though and see what happens to test it
[16:57] <LukeConnell> can i install 9 and upgrade to ten within it?
[16:57] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: no... just the animated plymouth boot logo
[16:57] <D-cay> Hey everyone
[16:57] <overmind> !hi | D-cay
[16:57] <chandrageetha> it doesn't show a particular message, it keeps on changing
[16:58] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: dude, I just woke up...sorry - I ment to ask if it affected what you see on boot :)
[16:58] <D-cay> Can anyone help me get a PS3 controller working with Ubuntu 10.04?
[16:58] <Jake2|cfl> thanks to the room operators who keep things in line!
[16:58] <onetinsoldier> Dr_Willis: let me change my theme and see what happens ;-)
[16:58] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: yes
[16:58] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: heh - thanks
[16:58] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: sure, you're welcome :-)
[16:59] <ken_79> If you upgrade to a new version do you have to reinstall your programs?
[16:59] <chandrageetha> my system after getting upgraded to ubuntu 10.04, frequently gets stuck. when nobody could say. how could i get over this problem?
[16:59] <coz_> ken_79,  generally no
[17:00] <SocialistPig> if the upgrade dont fail
[17:00] <SocialistPig> you should plan for the upgrade to fail though
[17:01] <onetinsoldier> Dr_Willis: i ran the command. it did not run the update-initramfs -u. so, you may very well be correct. i think that's a bug though. i'm going to reboot though, to see if it changed without the initramfs update
[17:01] <D-cay> Can anyone help me get my PS3 controller working with ePSXe? Controller isn't even been detected from the looks of it.
[17:01] <urupica> all of a sudden i had no sound on my xubuntu box. any idea anyone?
[17:01] <rallias> urupica: Did you go to mute?
[17:02] <urupica> rallias: no i didnt
[17:03] <rallias> urupica: Go to where it plugs in rotate the plug
[17:03] <urupica> rallias: i have a laptop
[17:04] <ManDay> Sooo.................... any "expert" on Pulse and ALSA arround? I plugged AUDACIOUS with alsa, therefore bypassing PULSE, but the Audacious Volume control directly links with one of the ALSA channels, MASTER by default - can this be changed so I can regulate the volume through a software mixer?
[17:04] <Ridders24> hi guys, im running ubuntu in virtual box and tried to install the full screen vbox additions. how do i run a .run file with admin rights?
[17:04] <rallias> urupica: plug in a headset
[17:04] <rallias> see it that works
[17:05] <nke> could anyone please tell me how to turn off firestarter permanently and keep it off?
[17:05] <greezmunkey> Ridders24: sudo ?
[17:05] <ManDay> GREEEEEEEEEEEEEAT
[17:05] <rallias> Is it possible to make a Perl sound controler?
[17:05] <ManDay> audacious hung up in a loop with alsa errors
[17:05] <urupica> rallias: no it doesnt
[17:05] <MACscr_ubu> ok, so i just installed ubuntu on my system that has 3 monitors. I have a ati radeon 4850 pci express card and the third monitor is using the onboard radeon 3200. I have the proprietary ati drivers installed that ubuntu suggested, the third monitor still doesnt do anything and it it as an unknown video card. Also, why does the stupid system want me to reboot my system just for display changes?
[17:06] <mezen> nke, why would'nt you remove firestarter ?
[17:06] <rallias> urupica: i recommend a reboot if its a major problem it will erveal itself there
[17:06] <nke> mezen, what?
[17:06] <urupica> rallias: i already tried a reboot, didn't help
[17:06] <rallias> urupica: did you tamper with the sound controls?
[17:07] <rallias> as in installing a different sound controller or something of that sort?
[17:07] <arand> theadmin: (as per Q in +1) No liceCDs yet. Edit your sources.list and apt-it.
[17:07] <mezen> nke, "sudo apt-get remove firestarter" will remove it
[17:07] <Ridders24> greezmunky cheers :)
[17:07] <nickaugust> hey i was just telling a friend about compiz cube but I havent used it in years... is it still around?  the only stuff I can find on google is from a couple years back.  did they change names or something?
[17:07] <theadmin> arand: Well, wow. Nah that's not something I'd go with... I'd rather run it in a vbox or something :P Oh well whatever
[17:07] <greezmunkey> Ridders24: !! :)
[17:08] <jesi> When I use the MySpace uploader Firefox crashed
[17:08] <urupica> rallias: i didn't touch them. once the sound didn't work i tried changing all the sound control settings. problem unchanged
[17:08] <rallias> ok click the sound control and click sound options
[17:09] <mezen> nickaugust, no it's still alive
[17:09] <user0098> hi all- can anyone tell me why this is ? or more importantly, how I get out of it ?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/433904/
[17:09] <rallias> urupica: Click sound control sound prefrences
[17:09] <theadmin> user0098: Looks like a DH
[17:09] <user0098> DH?
[17:09] <theadmin> Dependency Hell
[17:09] <endone> hello, I use audacious to play ape+cue, and it works. but when I restart audacious, every entry in playlist plays from the begining of ape, any one has the same problem?
[17:09] <user0098> oh great
[17:09] <theadmin> When some dependancies are broken :/
[17:10] <drake> ciao
[17:10] <user0098> wel yes I guessed that!
[17:10] <drake> i m from italy
[17:10] <user0098> what do I do ???
[17:10] <rallias> brb gotta switch on kvm
[17:10] <urupica> rallias: i already tried all possible sound settings...
[17:10] <drake> hallo
[17:10] <rallias> go to hardware
[17:10] <theadmin> user0098: Contact the devs, report a bug. Act! They should fix it someday :D
[17:11] <user0098> are you serious
[17:11] <onetinsoldier> Dr_Willis: well, i discovered that the update-initramfs -u needs to be run after changing plymouth theme. what a rip-off! the update-alternatives command should handle that imo. it should call it when needed
[17:11] <jvizzle> nix
[17:11] <theadmin> user0098: Sure. I doubt the problem is on your end
[17:11] <Legura77> ciao
[17:11] <monkey_dust> hi all -- is this the right place for questions about virtualbox, or is there a specific channel?
[17:11] <theadmin> Legura77: English channel, for italian -> #ubuntu-it
[17:11] <theadmin> monkey_dust: #vbox
[17:11] <monkey_dust> tnx
[17:11] <user0098> there is #vbox
[17:12] <onetinsoldier> e01: hello. still here? Dr_Willis pointed out to me that there's another command that needs to be run after changing your plymouth theme
[17:12] <user0098> (I'm running in it)
[17:13] <mezen> nickaugust, in lucid compiz config manager is called ccsm
[17:13] <nickaugust> mezen: thanks man :)
[17:14] <guestxyz3432> exit
[17:14] <theadmin> Any good FOSS (or just free) Text-To-Speech software which'd work with Linux?
[17:14] <onetinsoldier> compizconfig-settings-manager & simple-ccsm
[17:14] <greezmunkey> Dr_Willis: onetinsoldier what's you opinion of the technique outlined here?: http://n00bsonubuntu.com/content/how-change-login-screen-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx
[17:14] <ryan__> I need some help, minor problem, but annoying. It's my sound. It's installed perfectly (as far as I know, because it plays sounds as good as it should). However, every time a new sound is about to be played, the speaker does the little popping noise, the one you get every time you turn you average speakers on. I'm thinking my speakers are switching off whilst they aren't being used, instead of being idle.
[17:15] <beware> on 10.04, yesterday i did the automatic update (with kernel upgrade), now nvidia driver won't load
[17:15] <mezen> ryan__, what is your sound card ?
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> onetinsoldier:  reading at --> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-do-you-change-the-boot-splash-screen-image-for-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> heh
[17:15] <ryan__> mezen, Realtek HD audio
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> lets check the other from greezmunkey
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> greezmunkey:  that guide does basically the same thing that the guide i posted does with a single command.
[17:16] <mezen> ryan__, please type and paste me the output from this command: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> greezmunkey:  the use of 'unlink' is a little odd. but  that guide has the advantage of you seeing the gdm screen change in real time.
[17:17] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: well, looks good to me. i haven't tried those commands. but as long as that works good, looks great to me
[17:17] <urupica> rallias: when i touch the microphone i can hear the scratching. so hardware is ok. must  be a software / settings problem somewhere. is there a way to reset alsa?
[17:17] <greezmunkey> Dr_Willis: ok - I saw that, thought it was a bit wierd, wanted your opinions
[17:17] <ryan__> Codec: Realtek ALC268 (new line) Codec: Motorola Si3054
[17:17] <iDope> someone reply with my nick in the line please
[17:17] <theadmin> Uhm. I symlinked a file to one place... If i remove the link, will the actual file be untouched?
[17:17] <theadmin> iDope: There you go :D
[17:18] <jvizzle> What sound drivers work the best with supremeFX X-Fi sound cards???
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> greezmunkey:  yea . be neat to be able to have the command run FROM gdm if you enter  the sudo password.
[17:18] <iDope> thankyou theadmin
[17:18] <BluesKaj> ryan__,  got pulseaudio ? if so that's probly the culprit , some ppl need it for fancy sound systems but onboard audiocarsds suffer when it's used
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> jvizzle:  every time i see x-fi mentioned in this channel its with people having all sorts of problems with them :(
[17:18] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  what was your single command for gdm change ? :)
[17:18] <onetinsoldier> e01: hello. still here? Dr_Willis pointed out to me that there's another command that needs to be run after changing your plymouth theme
[17:18] <e01> onetinsoldier, it is changed but now the problem is that the colors are really sux
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  at that first url i gave,
[17:19] <ryan__> BluesKaj, how could I check if I have this?
[17:19] <Dr_Willis>  coz_ :  reading at --> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-do-you-change-the-boot-splash-screen-image-for-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[17:19] <moza> Hi, anybody had problems with flashplayer under lucid? (with firefox)
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  gksu -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[17:19] <jvizzle> Dr_Willis: yeah I've been doing a lot of research and I know creative opened up there drivers to the public so the Binary driver they originally released has been updated.
[17:19] <onetinsoldier> e01: roger... not sure what video driver you're using, but you can try the following guide. it worked a treat for me :-)
[17:19] <moza> it seems mine can't install, i have no sound, no image on the flash videos.
[17:19] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  ok  cool same one i generally offer  :)
[17:19] <onetinsoldier> e01: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[17:20] <Narya> how do I open .bin files?
[17:20] <theadmin> Narya: Run them
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> Narya:  depends on what it Really is..
[17:20] <coz_> Narya,   first right click the file go to properties
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> .bin means nothing. :) what is it supposed to be?
[17:21] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: .jpg means nothing for Linux too ;) But we're used that it reffers to image/jpeg
[17:21] <coz_> Narya,  then the Permissions tab  and tick the "Execute"   box
[17:21] <onetinsoldier> Narya: try the following command to see what kind of file it really is.... file <file.bin>
[17:21] <coz_> Narya,  then open a terminal...cd to that location  and  run   ./nameof.bin
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  .bin is so vague that it means nothing  these days. at least .runme would make sence.
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> Narya:  what is it supposed to be?
[17:21] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: .bin = binary = runnable straight away
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  unless its a cue. or a ROM image for a game.. or a ......
[17:22] <johann> Hello
[17:22] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: ...oh... :/
[17:22] <coz_> :)
[17:22] <Narya> Dr_Willis, mozilla firefox adobe reader plugin
[17:22] <mezen> ryan__, can you tell me what is the computer you have ?
[17:22] <BluesKaj> ryan__, applications / sound
[17:22] <Narya> !pastebin
[17:22] <coz_> Narya,   ooo   you should be able to just drag that onto firefox window  I believe
[17:23] <beware> i think the kernel update i did on ubuntu 10.04 recently made it incompatible with the nvidia driver
[17:23] <johann> I would like to mount permanently a SSH connexion but I am not sure how to proceed. Can someone help me?
[17:23] <coz_> beware,   did you try a hard reboot  =  restart?
[17:23] <beware> after the update: yes
[17:23] <Narya> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:23] <beware> again: no
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> johann:  thats doable via sshfs. if you mean mount a remote box to a local directory
[17:24] <Narya> coz_, that's what happened
[17:24] <manibuntu> hello
[17:24] <coz_> beware,  ok and   is the nvidia driver one you installed via  Hardware drivers
[17:24] <Narya> coz_, dragging it into firefox just caused to to redownload somehow...
[17:24] <coz_> Narya,   that pastebin is empty
[17:24] <beware> i think so. maybe through enabling hardware acceleration in the config, but nothing manual
[17:25] <e01> onetinsoldier, Dr_Willis , perfect, it working now :)
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> johann:  read up on sshfs and examples of usng it from fstab
[17:25] <beware> rebooted. still doesnt work
[17:25] <onetinsoldier> e01: cool :-) you're welcome
[17:25] <luckyone> hello all - anyone in here running xbmc on 10.04?
[17:25] <e01> next time when want kde i will install just kubuntu :D
[17:25] <coz_> Narya,   did you  open firefox  go to  "Tools"   then  "Addons"   and search for that plugin  on their site?
[17:25] <Narya> coz_ http://pastebin.com/EafXaSMb
[17:26] <ryan__> mezen, I have a HP Pavillion TX2530ea Tablet PC.
[17:26] <theadmin> Narya: If Firefox tries to download the .xpi file instead of installing - it's a broken addon
[17:26] <niko-mojo> Anyone know how to get around this "Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services" ? I'm a little confused with IRC
[17:26] <onetinsoldier> e01: roger. i have kbuntu installed in separate partition here just in case i want to run it ;)
[17:26] <onetinsoldier> kubuntu*
[17:26] <Narya> theadmin, coz_ It looks like it installed even though it didnt look like it would
[17:26] <luckyone> I am having some issues getting xbmc to use my libvdpau1 package from the nvidia ppa
[17:26] <SmarttViking> Hi all, i am running a computer with 4gb ddr3 ram, and a dual core 2.33ghz prosessor, 64bit or 32bit OS?
[17:26] <coz_> Narya,   ok  in that pastebin I see you used  "run"   no need   just type    ./AdbeRd  and hit the tab button to complete the name
[17:26] <drizzt_> what exactly is in my /usr/src folder? can I remove it?
[17:26] <ryan__> BluesKaj: I removed pulseaudio from synaptic and i'm still getting it.
[17:26] <DJones> niko-mojo: It means that you need to have registered your nick with freenode and be logged in with that account
[17:27] <beware> when i startx (i don't use gdm/kdm) i get "failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module", etc
[17:27] <DJones> !register | niko-mojo
[17:27] <onetinsoldier> drizzt_: don't remove /usr/src
[17:27] <drizzt_> onetinsoldier, why?
[17:27] <beware> doing it this way has always worked before, including earlier on in 10.04, until now
[17:27] <onetinsoldier> drizzt_: maybe you could, but i wouldn't recommend it.
[17:28] <drizzt_> so you don;t know and still give advices? wonderful
[17:28] <manibuntu> anyone here use mdadm with raid 1 plz ?
[17:28] <niko-mojo> ubotto - but I logged onto pidgin using niko-mojo@irc.ubuntu.com
[17:28] <onetinsoldier> drizzt_: nope.. don't think you'd want to remove that dir. stuff does get installed there by default!
[17:28] <coz_> Narya,   so I assume this .bin is on the desktop  so open terminal    type     cd  Desktop   then type  ./Ad   hit tab  to complete name  and then hit enter
[17:28] <Narya> coz_ somehow it was already installed even though firefox said it wasnt
[17:28] <SmarttViking> Hi all, i am running a computer with 4gb ddr3 ram, and a dual core 2.33ghz prosessor, should i use 64bit or 32 but Ubuntu? I don't use 16bit software to my knowledge.
[17:29] <onetinsoldier> drizzt_: by default... i have in /usr/src --> fglrx-8.723.1  linux-headers-2.6.32-22  linux-headers-2.6.32-22-generic  linux-source-2.6.32.tar.bz2
[17:29] <Narya> coz_, started up firefox again and there it was
[17:29] <coz_> Narya,  mm  that's interesting
[17:29] <Narya> coz_, I agree
[17:29] <onetinsoldier> ok, perhaps the linux-source-2.6.32.tar.bz2 isn't 'default'.. but the rest is!
[17:29] <coz_> Narya,   ok   I would guess the best way to install firefox plugins is through the  Tools/addons  menu
[17:29] <beware> is there an official easy way to update nvidia drivers from the console so as to make them match the kernel again?
[17:29] <Narya> coz_, I guess so
[17:29] <coz_> Narya,    go to their site and search for the plugins you want  and they install from there
[17:29] <coz_> :)
[17:29] <theadmin> SmarttViking: What OS are you currently on?
[17:30] <niko-mojo> ubottu - oops - it says name is in use
[17:30] <Narya> coz_, ok Ill do that from now :) thanks
[17:30] <Narya> niko-mojo, ubottu is a bot lul
[17:30] <coz_> Narya,  no problem...
[17:30] <SmarttViking> theadmin, I use ubuntu 10.04
[17:30] <SmarttViking> theadmin, 32 bit
[17:31] <DJones> niko-mojo: ubottu is a bot, if you need help registering, you should join #freenode and they'll be able to help you with registering and logging into the account so you can join the channel you were trying to get into
[17:31] <ManDay> I press ^ and a and I get ^a - does Ubtuntu not support UTF-8 =!
[17:31] <onetinsoldier> drizzt_: you want to brutally rip out your kernel headers installation(if you have them installed) from /usr/src, go right ahead then
[17:31] <theadmin> SmarttViking: Uh. Well if it works... However for >3 GB ram it's better to run 64-bit systems.
[17:31] <mezen> ryan__,  in System -> Preferences -> Sound -> Hardware tab, set Profile to Analog Stereo Duplex
[17:31] <theadmin> ManDay: Ubuntu uses UTF-8 by default :/
[17:31] <ManDay> can i not expect from a contemporary OS to take into account composing chars as COMPOSING?!
[17:31] <greezmunkey> SmarttViking: run this to find your *exact* cpu: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -e "cpu" -e "model"
[17:32] <ManDay> theadmin, well then why does it not compose?
[17:32] <niko-mojo> Naraya -  Djones  - thx, think my name is in use by someone else.
[17:32] <theadmin> ManDay: Compose... I dunno what that even is, sorry
[17:32] <SmarttViking> theadmin, ok think you i will install 64 bit, i have never tried that before. :)
[17:32] <drizzt_> ManDay, you need keyboard layout with dead keys or set up composing key
[17:32] <ManDay> drizzt_, WITH dead keys?!
[17:32] <bsmith093> what is composding key, like music composing
[17:32] <ManDay> i want NEITHER dead keys NOR not working composing chars
[17:32] <SmarttViking> greezmunkey, I'm sorry i am not at that PC now. :)
[17:33] <ManDay> i want it to work ... just like on windows
[17:33] <ManDay> yes... i just said that
[17:33] <ManDay> and NO, im not going to install windows "then"
[17:33] <drizzt_> ManDay, only Word use composing this way
[17:33] <theadmin> ManDay: Uhm. I type "^a" and I get "^a" on Windows.
[17:33] <greezmunkey> SmarttViking: make it king of hard to run then, huh.
[17:33] <mezen> ryan__, if it does'nt work, type "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf" then add this line at the end of the file: "options snd-hda-intel model=auto" without "" and reboot
[17:33] <wildc4rd> afternoon all!
[17:33] <ManDay> theadmin, thats because you are a freak
[17:33] <ManDay> j/k :P
[17:33] <drizzt_> ManDay, still, you need keyboard layout with dead keys
[17:33] <creat0r> anybody knows how the bandwidth monitoring tools work????
[17:34] <mickster04> creat0r: magic
[17:34] <ManDay> drizzt_, that has nothing to with word. whereever i type ^a or `e I get the appropriate composites
[17:34] <creat0r> mickster04: how?
[17:34] <AbuBadr> hi all
[17:34] <AbuBadr> may i ask?
[17:34] <ne7work> how to redirect any port from windows to linux virtual machine
[17:34] <ManDay> drizzt_, what keys would "die" then?
[17:34] <mickster04> creat0r: no idea
[17:34] <drizzt_> ManDay, ' " ^ ` ~
[17:34] <onetinsoldier> things seem a little rough in this room this morning :-|
[17:35] <bsmith093> its 12:30 where i am
[17:35] <theadmin> Anyway, isn't "^" gotten when I Shift+6? :/ That's not even a "key"
[17:35] <bsmith093> pm
[17:35] <greezmunkey> ne7work: what are you trying to do?
[17:35] <ManDay> drizzt_, well if by "dead" you mean that i can only type a ^ through ^<space> then that is ok
[17:35] <drizzt_> ManDay, if you can do yhis on Windows, you're using dead key layout, 'like US International'
[17:35] <drizzt_> ManDay, that's what dead key mean
[17:35] <ManDay> drizzt_, i thought dead keys means i can aswell pick them off my keyboard
[17:35] <drizzt_> theadmin, on plain US keyboard, yes
[17:35] <theadmin> drizzt_: Is not a US keyboard :P A russian one
[17:36] <AbuBadr> i have 4 GB RAM   but in system i can see only 2.2 GiB  !!!
[17:36] <coz_> AbuBadr,   is this a 64 bit system or 32 bit?
[17:36] <theadmin> drizzt_: But it's a typical QWERTY with buncha russian letters apart from english ones, just have to switch the layout :D
[17:36] <coz_> AbuBadr,  open a terminal and run     uname -m
[17:37] <AbuBadr> i got    i686
[17:37] <AbuBadr> is that 32 bit?
[17:37] <coz_> AbuBadr,  ok that is a 32 bit ubuntu you have installed
[17:37] <mezen> AbuBadr, if it is a 32bits system, you have to installe a PAE kernel to see all your 4GB RAM
[17:37] <AbuBadr> i c
[17:38] <AbuBadr> how to do so?
[17:38] <theadmin> I have a weird issue: Same machine, Karmic and Lucid... on Karmic lshw lists 380 MB ram, on Lucid 512... ?!
[17:38] <rallias> How do i have my computer connected to multiple networks (IE an encrypted wifi network and an ethernet localhost network)
[17:38] <coz_> AbuBadr,   however  your actual hardware may be 64 bit in which case you can either do what mezen  suggested or reinstall with the 64 bit ubuntu cd      what cpu  do you have on that system?
[17:38] <beware> ok, it can't find a package linux-restricted-modules for my running kernel version (2.6.31.20-generic), i'm going to try to boot an earlier kernel
[17:39] <avsu> Is lm-sensors application installed on Lucid Lynks by default?
[17:39] <theadmin> avsu: It's "Lynx", and I don't think so
[17:39] <AbuBadr> how to know?
[17:39] <beware> xkcd #349
[17:39] <Segura> Hii! I have some issues with my conky file... I'm trying to load 2 conky config, the first load a "background" image and some information, the second load more info. But the image covers that second config.. Anyone know how do it properly?
[17:39] <Segura> (sry for my english)
[17:39] <theadmin> beware: !?
[17:39] <greezmunkey> AbuBadr: in a terminal: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -e "cpu" -e "model"
[17:39] <avsu> theadmin: ok thanks!
[17:40] <coz_> AbuBadr,  when you talk to someone here .. it is best to type the first couple letters of their name and hit the "tab" key to complete it so they can be allerted :)
[17:40] <beware> theadmin: xkcd is a web comic with a geeky joke/comic for about *every* situation a geek may encounter
[17:40] <guest7895> cat ~/.irssi/nicklistfifo
[17:40] <ne7work> how to redirect any port from windows to linux virtual machine
[17:40] <guest7895> upss sorry
[17:41] <theadmin> beware: I know what xkcd is, I just don't get why you posted that here :P
[17:41] <AbuBadr> coz_, i c
[17:41] <AbuBadr> like this??
[17:41] <beware> theadmin: i can't get into graphics mode and it looks very messy
[17:41] <beware> nvidia driver won't load after a kernel upgrade. no restricted-modules for my kernel version
[17:41] <coz_> AbuBadr,   yep thats how you alert someone :)
[17:42] <beware> mind you, a kernel upgrade thats part of the automatic process. it should just have worked
[17:42] <beegee> anyone knows what package contains "isohybrid" command?
[17:42] <carael> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "python-qt4"
[17:42] <theadmin> beegee: Type it and see.
[17:42] <cypher_> русские
[17:42] <coz_> beware,   ok go into system/administration/hardware drivers and see what is listed or activated
[17:42] <carael> why it doesn t want to install it
[17:42] <rallias> how do i make my computer connect to multiple networks of the same type at once?
[17:42] <theadmin> cypher_: Да да? В #ubuntu-ru пожалуйста)
[17:42] <beware> coz_: i can't get into graphics mode. i can only work on the console
[17:42] <carael> i try to install python-q4
[17:42] <carael> it doens t find the package
[17:42] <carael> what can i do
[17:42] <AbuBadr> greezmunkey, what to type exactly in terminal ??
[17:42] <coz_> beware,  oooo I see
[17:42] <greezmunkey> rallias: multiple ip subnets on the same wire?
[17:43] <greezmunkey> AbuBadr: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -e "cpu" -e "model"
[17:43] <drizzt_> carael, try to update repos first
[17:43] <beegee> theadmin:i did but no luck.. isohybrid: command not found
[17:43] <carael> how do i do that
[17:43] <carael> ?
[17:43] <rallias> greezmunkey: no one wifi connection and one ethernet connection that the computer acts as a pseudo dns server on the eth0 port
[17:43] <drizzt_> carael, sudo apt-get update
[17:43] <niko-mojo> test
[17:43] <theadmin> beegee: Well, "apt-cache search isohybrid | less" might give something
[17:43] <carael> thx
[17:43] <coz_> beware,  let me update my lucid and see hold on
[17:43] <beware> k
[17:43] <creat0r> theadmin: do you know how could i monitor my bandwidth usage?
[17:43] <onetinsoldier> beegee: that command is not normally part of a lucid install
[17:44] <AbuBadr> can i copy all that??
[17:44] <theadmin> creat0r: wireshark.
[17:44] <carael> it is installing stuff
[17:44] <onetinsoldier> apt-file search isohybrid ...returrns nothing
[17:44] <jamesw> hi all
[17:44] <coz_> beware,  give me a few minutes  ... I am in the middle of compiling compiz 0.90
[17:44] <greezmunkey> rallias: to feed internet to eth0, that is a "shared" connection, simple with Network Manager.
[17:44] <carael> i ve u question
[17:44] <theadmin> onetinsoldier: apt-file?! apt-cache, not apt-file
[17:44] <jamesw> unr vs ubuntu light vs ubuntu netbook edition: what should i install?
[17:44] <carael> when i update to ubuntu 10.4
[17:44] <AbuBadr> cpu family	: 17
[17:44] <AbuBadr> model		: 3
[17:44] <AbuBadr> model name	: AMD Turion(tm) X2 Ultra Dual-Core Mobile ZM-86
[17:44] <AbuBadr> cpu MHz		: 2400.000
[17:44] <AbuBadr> cpu cores	: 2
[17:44] <FloodBot2> AbuBadr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <AbuBadr> cpuid level	: 1
[17:44] <beware> ok
[17:44] <carael> on the wmware machine
[17:44] <rallias> greezmunkey: Simple is not so simple
[17:44] <carael> the keyborad doesn t work
[17:44] <onetinsoldier> theadmin: apt-file is better... more comprehensive :-)
[17:45] <carael> i can t login
[17:45] <red2kic> creat0r: conky + script.
[17:45] <carael> so weird
[17:45] <creat0r> theadmin: i need some basic tools like iftop and come integrated with most *nx systems
[17:45] <carael> what can i do
[17:45] <carael> ?
[17:45] <FloodBot2> carael: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <rallias> greezmunkey: I've tried, it won't connect to multiple things at once
[17:45] <theadmin> onetinsoldier: *sigh* sucks not to have a terminal at hand :D
[17:45] <wizo> hey, im trying to isntall gitosis, and when i run sudo -H -u gitosis gitosis-init < /tmp/id_rsa.pub, it says git is not in the sudoers file. what can i do to overcome this?
[17:45] <greezmunkey> rallias: does what I typed approximate what you want to do?
[17:45] <onetinsoldier> theadmin: wth? you don't have a term right now? that would suck
[17:45] <rallias> greezmunkey: yes
[17:45] <theadmin> onetinsoldier: Yup, I'm on backdoors ^W windows
[17:46] <jamesw> for my netbook , unr vs ubuntu light vs ubuntu netbook edition: what should i install?
[17:46] <coz_> beware,  in the mean time while in the text console   did you try    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:46] <rallias> greezmunkey: i have eth0 as shared to other computers, wireless connected via an encrypted network, and I can't get windows vista to connect through Ubuntu to the internet
[17:46] <onetinsoldier> theadmin: roger... bummer :-(
[17:46] <beware> yes
[17:46] <beware> im right now booting 2.6.28.17 from the menu
[17:46] <greezmunkey> rallias: one thing bewfore you proceed with that, the shared connection will force a subnet of 10.42.42.X on the eth0 interface, but it will hand out addresses via dhcp on eth0, so that's ok.
[17:46] <beware> to see if that can go into X
[17:46] <theadmin> onetinsoldier: Not my fault that I can't install anything to this computer...
[17:46] <coz_> beware,   ok
[17:47] <greezmunkey> rallias: 10.42.43.x, sorry
[17:47] <theadmin> onetinsoldier: "anything" as in OS terms
[17:47] <bp0> is computer janitor just the most useless thing ever?
[17:47] <theadmin> bp0: Heh, yeah, find it so :D
[17:47] <AbuBadr> coz_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/433924/
[17:47] <rallias> greezmunkey: do you how to connect vista through that eth0 port?
[17:47] <DrGrov> Anyone know how to help with getting Java running in Ubuntu 10.04 with Firefox 3.6.x?
[17:47] <bp0> should be more like ubuntu tweak's cleanup thing
[17:47] <greezmunkey> rallias: set vista to recieve ip address via dhcp, "automatically"
[17:48] <beware> hm. i tried "upgrade", but not "dist-upgrade", i'll try that when i get there
[17:48] <coz_> AbuBadr,   ok that is a 64 bit hardware   you could just install the 64bit ubuntu version
[17:48] <theadmin> DrGrov: Add the Partner repo and then install sun-java6-plugin
[17:48] <rallias> how do i make it do that?
[17:48] <theadmin> !partner | DrGrov
[17:48] <onetinsoldier> theadmin: apt-file is great for searching for, and/or listing.... files that are not installed on your system. you can list an entire list of files installed by package name, even if the package is not installed on your system
[17:48] <Segura> I have some issues with my conky file... I'm trying to load 2 conky config, the first load an image as a "background" and also some information. The second load more info. But the "background" image covers that second config.. Anyone know how do it properly?
[17:48] <greezmunkey> rallias: also, dns will be served as well
[17:48] <coz_> AbuBadr,  then the system should see all of the memory :)
[17:48] <DrGrov> theadmin: can you pm me how to install it?
[17:48] <drizzt_> rallias, you need dnsmasq or something equivalent on ubuntu
[17:48] <DrGrov> theadmin: pm the information instead. it is faster
[17:48] <wizo> hey, im trying to isntall gitosis, and when i run sudo -H -u gitosis gitosis-init < /tmp/id_rsa.pub, it says git is not in the sudoers file. what can i do to overcome this?
[17:48] <AbuBadr> coz_, is there any easier way?
[17:49] <drizzt_> rallias, can you ping internet sites by their IPs?
[17:49] <AbuBadr> coz_, the way mezen told me!
[17:49] <beware> it's stuck on fsck without progress indication and without disk activity
[17:49] <rallias> No my Vista machine is in the black
[17:49] <saucer> ?DCC SEND "GayNiggerAssociationofAmerica" 0 0 0
[17:49] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[17:49] <onetinsoldier> theadmin: for example... apt-file list emacs  ...shows me every file installed by emacs
[17:49] <coz_> AbuBadr,  that is the other options....its one that i would not perform on a 64 bit hardware system though    I have never tried that
[17:49] <rallias> when i try to connect to a network it tries to get me to connect to a wifi connection
[17:49] <coz_> AbuBadr,  however it may work but I am not the one to guide you on that
[17:49] <theadmin> onetinsoldier: Woah... thanks
[17:50] <AbuBadr> coz_, ok i c  thanks
[17:50] <drizzt_> rallias, so you cannot connect to ubuntu machine via wireless?
[17:50] <mezen> AbuBadr, install a 32bits PAE kernel
[17:50] <mezen> AbuBadr, that's what I have
[17:50] <onetinsoldier> theadmin: you're welcome. it's very handing for when you're compiling source code.. and you're like, where's that file come from? apt-file search will show it real quick if it's in a package in the repos
[17:51] <onetinsoldier> handy*
[17:51] <AbuBadr> mezen, from where? and how?
[17:51] <Segura> noone knows?
[17:51] <rallias> drizzt: No the ubuntu machine is connected via wireless i want to get my vista machine to connect through my Ubuntu machine through hard wire to the internet
[17:51] <Segura> I have some issues with my conky file... I'm trying to load 2 conky config, the first load an image as a "background" and also some information. The second load more info. But the "background" image covers that second config.. Anyone know how do it properly?
[17:51] <beware> that didn't boot, rebooting in latest
[17:51] <coz_> mezen,  I think he may need a  walk through with you :)
[17:51] <greezmunkey> rallias: is this your situation?: Internet<Ubuntu>Vista, or Ubuntu<vista>Internet
[17:51] <AbuBadr> coz_,  why?? :)
[17:52] <coz_> AbuBadr,  just in case     I personally would walk you through it but I dont have experience with th at
[17:52] <mezen> coz_, yes :)
[17:52] <drizzt_> greezmunkey, of course 1 one, second never gives trouble
[17:52] <franco> ciao
[17:52] <mezen> AbuBadr, open a terminal and type this:
[17:52] <drizzt_> 1st*
[17:52] <rallias> greezmunkey: Vista > Ubuntu > Internet
[17:52] <mezen> AbuBadr, sudo apt-get update
[17:52] <mezen> AbuBadr, sudo sudo apt-get install linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server
[17:52] <franco> ìlist
[17:53] <franco> ìlist
[17:53] <VladimirBG> hello
[17:53] <coz_> AbuBadr,  no offense was meant by that    I just want to be sure you get it correct :)
[17:53] <franco> !list
[17:53] <mezen> AbuBadr, save all your files before a reboot, when ready type sudo reboot
[17:53] <GeekSquid> !it | franco
[17:53] <AbuBadr> coz_,  thanks man :)
[17:53] <beware> fsck again, fingers crossed that it finishes...
[17:53] <AbuBadr> mezen,  i got     Reading package lists... Done
[17:53] <greezmunkey> rallias: Yes, you will need the dnsmasq-base package installed
[17:54] <om26er> what do I do so that my btrfs usb can be read/write on any linux machine?
[17:54] <greezmunkey> rallias: I was thinking you already had that
[17:54] <AbuBadr> mezen, thats it??
[17:54] <greezmunkey> rallias: look here: http://beginlinux.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/shared-wire-connection-in-ubuntu/
[17:54] <mezen> AbuBadr, follow the commands I gave you
[17:54] <beware> ive performed an update and dist-upgrade. no new packages
[17:54] <enovativ> if I have a samba server running on my ubuntu....how can figure out it's name
[17:55] <VladimirBG> is there a good sync app for mobiles that does not require thinkering with text config files? I need to sync contacts, calendat and todo between my phone and thunderbird with lightning
[17:55] <enovativ> i am trying to access a linux share thru windows using : net use s:\\SAMBA server\share name
[17:55] <GeekSquid> VladimirBG: what mobile? I use the google suite, and it just works
[17:56] <zrl33> hihi
[17:56] <enovativ> can anyone help  ?
[17:56] <rallias> greezmunkey: it allready is
[17:56] <Oer> Segura   answer # 6  >> http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[17:56] <VladimirBG> GeekSquid, nokia n82
[17:56] <AbuBadr> mezen, ok
[17:56] <drizzt_> enovativ, no
[17:56] <zrl33> I connect with ssh to a desktop-pc in the network. I write xhost and the console xhost:  unable to open display ""
[17:57] <VladimirBG> but I really need local sync since a lot of the time I spend offline with my laptop
[17:57] <enovativ> drizzt_: no what ?
[17:57] <zrl33> what can i do?
[17:57] <Segura> thx to aswer 0er
[17:57] <Segura> answer*
[17:57] <greezmunkey> rallias: are you running ufw, firewall?
[17:57] <drizzt_> enovativ, we cannot help you if you don't state your problem clearly
[17:57] <enovativ> drizzt_: are you saying that it is not possible
[17:57] <AbuBadr> mezen, it is downloading something
[17:58] <enovativ> i want to access a linux share in windows
[17:58] <rallias> greezmunkey: none that i know of on either of these two machines
[17:58] <mezen> AbuBadr, yes and it will install the new kernel just after download
[17:58] <BluesKaj> zrl33, windows pc ?
[17:58] <drizzt_> enovativ, so what's the problem?
[17:58] <enovativ> i need to figure out the name of the SAMBA server
[17:58] <GeekSquid> VladimirBG: use google http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=98230&topic=15015 ... really easy way to sync
[17:58] <om26er> !permissions
[17:58] <mezen> AbuBadr, follow all commands I gave you and all things will be fine. Now I have to go, i'll catch you later if you want.
[17:58] <aule> !controls
[17:58] <greezmunkey> rallias: work your way through the link I posted, I used to use that type of connection all the time.
[17:58] <enovativ> so i am trying to figure that out....if i truly have the SAMBA server running on my ubuntu laptop
[17:58] <drizzt_> enovativ, type hostname on the server or browse the network
[17:58] <zrl33> BluesKaj: with putty, yes. but i can test it from ubuntu too
[17:59] <enovativ> drizzt_: in windows
[17:59] <enovativ>  ?
[17:59] <AbuBadr> mezen, ok thanks man
[17:59] <VladimirBG> GeekSquid, at the moment, I'm using w7 and I sync my phone using ovi suite and outlook, but I'll be getting a new laptop, and was hoping to switch to ubuntu
[17:59] <enovativ> drizzt_: I tried to see the laptop in my network in windows and couldn't see it
[17:59] <drizzt_> enovativ, in windows, just type \\<your linux host name here> in Run box
[17:59] <zrl33> BluesKaj: or is this no differenz?
[17:59] <enovativ> drizzt_: ok
[18:00] <drizzt_> enovativ, if this doen't work try \\<linux host ip here>
[18:00] <VladimirBG> GeekSquid, that us for gmail accounts, right? But I need to have contacts and calendat synced with email/calendar app localy
[18:00] <rallias> how do i use dnsmasq
[18:00] <enovativ> drizzt_: thanks
[18:00] <drizzt_> rallias, you install it and it works
[18:01] <VladimirBG> VladimirBG, I don't have permanent internet connection, that is why I need to sync to laptop
[18:01] <GeekSquid> VladimirBG: ugh, get a real phone, nokia's software is so 286, go android and you will never go back
[18:01] <drizzt_> VladimirBG, I doubt highly that such soft exists
[18:02] <rallias> drizzt_ i don't know how to use it
[18:02] <enovativ> drizzt_: it worked....thanks !
[18:03] <ManDay> drizzt_, where do I set the composing key? I remember that with the alternate install i could set it up at install but how about a vanilla installation?
[18:03] <ManDay> how many configs will i have to edit? 2, maybe 3 dozen?
[18:03] <VladimirBG> GeekSquid, I like android, but I don't have one, and probaubly wont buy a new phone for at least a year, so I guess your point is no sync app for ubuntu can do what I would like?
[18:03] <ManDay> how much hair will i loose through the process?
[18:03] <monk>  hey all. i'm using an older laptop which causes some issues. I cant seem to install full distro from a disk. i had to install ubuntu from the minimal (CLI), and install everything that way. after that,everything  seems to work except for audio. any suggestions?
[18:04] <drizzt_> ManDay, if in Gnome, check keyboard settings; for console do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup'
[18:04] <greezmunkey> rallias: ok, that link was less than useless...Are you connected to the internet on your ubox via wireless, or wired?
[18:04] <DuctTapeCoder> Guys, why do I think this looks so hot? http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/EDwb9jOVRtU/hqdefault.jpg
[18:04] <monk> drizzt_ - master of the scimitar!
[18:04] <rallias> greezmunkey i fixed it it was a hardware issue
[18:04] <Guest45186> hello all
[18:05] <rsk> DuctTapeCoder probably a hardware issue
[18:05] <marienz> DuctTapeCoder: this is #ubuntu.
[18:05] <greezmunkey> rallias: really, do tell.
[18:05] <AbuBadr_> coz_, after reboot i got 3.7 GiB RAM :)
[18:05] <Segura> 0er It doesent work :/
[18:05] <monk> hello Guest45186
[18:05] <marienz> DuctTapeCoder: I lost count of how often we've told you to keep that stuff contained to the right channels.
[18:05] <Segura> Oer, it doesn't work
[18:05] <ebraminio> hi everybody
[18:05] <beware> right now my problem can be summarized as: i need to get the linux-restricted-modules for the kernel i'm running (which i got through automatic update)
[18:05] <ebraminio> I have a problem with nvidia dirver
[18:06] <DuctTapeCoder> marienz, yes.
[18:06] <DuctTapeCoder> :(
[18:06] <beware> ebraminio: unable to get into graphics mode, can't find the nvidia driver?
[18:06] <Guest45186> im new to ubuntu very new
[18:06] <elhobab> Hi, i've some problem with a program called renpy here is the past http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/QSQdCaPP
[18:06] <GeekSquid> VladimirBG: it looks like opensync will do it, I am still looking for a recent version, hold on
[18:06] <coz_> AbuBadr_,  there you go :)
[18:06] <arand> !hi | Guest45186
[18:06] <DuctTapeCoder> Yes, now I remember my question...
[18:06] <enovativ> elhobab: what is renpy
[18:06] <DuctTapeCoder> Is this the right question to ask about Ubuntu Server?
[18:06] <rallias> Greezmunkey: it was the wrong kind of cable.
[18:06] <ebraminio> exit
[18:06] <coz_> beware,  ok done compiling ...let me check updates
[18:06] <AbuBadr_> coz_, yeah but not all the 4 GB :)   but its ok for me
[18:07] <beware> ok
[18:07] <drizzt_> rallias, what do you want to know about dnsmasq?
[18:07] <DuctTapeCoder> My ISP asked me if I wanted to migrate from CentOS to Ubuntu Server.
[18:07] <rallias> greezmunkey: how do i make it give it an ip address
[18:07] <zrl33> I writte over ssh from a ubuntu pc to a ubuntupc :   zrl3@zrl3-desktop:~$ DISPLAY=:0.0 gnome-screensaver-command --lock                 it returns   ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.
[18:07] <arand> DuctTapeCoder: Here or #ubuntu-server, depending.
[18:07] <ManDay> drizzt_, cool i found it - hey that was easy - no cfgs at all!
[18:07] <enovativ> kinda classic to be sitting here on my linux laptop talking to you all...and watching some old Star Wars movies...lol
[18:07] <greezmunkey> rallias: Doh!
[18:07] <zrl33> what can i do?
[18:07] <greezmunkey> rallias: you want to share your Internet wireless through eth0, right.
[18:07] <coz_> beware,  ok on lucid I apparently already have the new kernel and the nvidia driver is working fine here
[18:07] <rallias> greezmunkey: you don't say do you
[18:08] <beware> coz_: which kernel version?
[18:08] <zrl33> anybod< a idea?
[18:08] <rallias> greezmunkey: I have installed 6284 packages trying to fix this issue
[18:09] <elhobab> enovativ, Ren'Py is a free and cross-platform visual novel engine that helps you use words, pictures, and sounds to tell stories with the computer
[18:09] <enovativ> elhobab: awesome
[18:09] <elhobab> enovativ, http://www.renpy.org/wiki/renpy/Home_Page
[18:09] <coz_> beware,  2.6.32-22
[18:09] <greezmunkey> rallias: in network manager, for eth0 select method shared to others (or the like) at that point eth0 will want to had out addresses in subnet 10.42.43.X - set your vist to dhcp and you should be good to go.
[18:10] <beware> i dont even have 2.6.32-22, i have 2.6.21-20
[18:10] <beware> erm
[18:10] <beware> 2.6.31-20*
[18:10] <rallias> i feel like an idiot
[18:10] <beware> my restricted modules has nothing later than 2.6.28-17
[18:10] <greezmunkey> rallias: ??
[18:11] <coz_> beware,  this is lucid?
[18:11] <beware> yes
[18:11] <beware> sources-list also says lucid
[18:11] <elhobab> enovativ, yes it is
[18:11] <tuxx> hi
[18:11] <coz_> beware,   the current kernel for lucid is  2.6.32-22
[18:11] <Guest45186> are xubuntu and ubuntu basically the same?
[18:11] <beware> i believe you, but my system isn't upgrading
[18:12] <coz_> Guest45186,  well the Desktop environments are different
[18:12] <beware> it upgraded yesterday, and broke itself
[18:12] <beware> and now update and dist-upgrade does nothing
[18:12] <arand> !xubuntu | Guest45186
[18:12] <GeekSquid> VladimirBG: sudo apt-get install opensync-plugin-gnokii opensync-plugin-evolution libopensync0 ... see this post although it is outdated http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/09/12/nokia-e-series-sync-with-evolution-via-bluetooth-in-ubuntu/
[18:12] <coz_> Guest45186,  they look different and of course the menuing system is different  but how it funtions overall should be the same
[18:12] <L0L> what would be bether: a wrapper for the firewire stack or an udev rule, that allready is in a script that i wrote to the ubuntu wiki, so non-roots can acess firewire
[18:12] <R0b0t1> Hello. I did a fresh reinstall of Ubuntu 9.10, because updating to 10.04 borked my system. On my new install, it is unable to use wired or wireless. I have a working cat5 cable plugged into it, and it does not seem to see it.
[18:12] <elhobab> so, someone can explain me just the error if it's possible  http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/QSQdCaPP
[18:12] <R0b0t1> My router is working. It is an ubuntu problem. So don't suggest it.
[18:13] <onetinsoldier> Guest45186: yes. xubuntu has a lighter window manager/environment, takes up less resources ...so in that respect they are different
[18:13] <drizzt_> why the hell Ubuntu wants to remove network manager when I'm removing ppp?
[18:13] <beware> i have linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic installed
[18:13] <VladimirBG> GeekSquid,
[18:13] <VladimirBG> thanks
[18:13] <erUSUL> drizzt_: becouse NM depends on ppp ?
[18:13] <drizzt_> Guest45186, Xubuntu uses the same resources as Gnome, has poorer support and less functionality
[18:13] <beware> but its not in grub
[18:13] <Tazer> Hello does anyone know of a program to mass convert pdf files to cbr or cbz?
[18:14] <Guest45186> so ubuntu would be safer?
[18:14] <greezmunkey> beware: I had the same issue upgrading to lucid. The kernel wouldn't roll to the latest for some reason. I ended up backing up a few things and installing clean. Thanks to this channel, I had a seperate /home.
[18:14] <drizzt_> erUSUL, why does it depends on it? that's stupid idea
[18:14] <rallias> finally i got it to wrok
[18:14] <beware> i don't want to do that
[18:14] <L0L> who has problems here with firewire?
[18:14] <beware> i'm on grub 1, btw
[18:14] <erUSUL> drizzt_: broadband connectioons and some dsl connections use ppp
[18:14] <arand> drizzt_: Likely it's made as a part of NM, it may be that it's just not made modular enough to allow it.
[18:14] <greezmunkey> rallias: excellent!
[18:15] <Tazer> No one? >:
[18:15] <drizzt_> arand, I don't believe that, they were separate in previous versions
[18:15] <drizzt_> just one more maintainer f*kup I think
[18:15] <beware> ok i edited menu.lst, trying to boot into 32-22 now
[18:16] <R0b0t1> Hello. I did a fresh reinstall of Ubuntu 9.10, because updating to 10.04 borked my system. On my new install, it is unable to use wired or wireless. I have a working cat5 cable plugged into it, and it does not seem to see it.
[18:16] <coz_> beware,   so this is an upgrade  not a clean install?
[18:16] <chandrageetha> i got the message when i updated, Reading package lists... Done
[18:16] <chandrageetha> Building dependency tree
[18:16] <chandrageetha> Reading state information... Done
[18:16] <chandrageetha> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[18:16] <chandrageetha>   fglrx
[18:16] <FloodBot4> chandrageetha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:16] <chandrageetha> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 94 not upgraded.
[18:16] <beware> yes
[18:16] <arand> drizzt_: It's listed as depends on Karmic at least, so that must be a while ago then.
[18:16] <beware> im now running 32-22
[18:16] <onetinsoldier> !pastebin > chandrageetha
[18:17] <drizzt_> chandrageetha, your radeon driver is obsolete then
[18:17] <beware> startx: success
[18:17] <beware> im in graphics mode
[18:17] <drizzt_> chandrageetha, you will have to reinstall it after upgrading
[18:17] <coz_> beware,  ok  just one thing....when talking with someone specifically   in order to alert them   if you type the first 2 or 3 letters of their name and hit tab to complete then enter your message...they will be alerted on their end
[18:17] <coz_> :)
[18:17] <gridbag> anyone have luck getting firewire cameras to work in 10.04 ubuntu? it just doesn't see my camera on the fw bus after my upgrade.
[18:18] <R0b0t1> Hello. I did a fresh reinstall of Ubuntu 9.10, because updating to 10.04 borked my system. On my new install, it is unable to use wired or wireless. I have a working cat5 cable plugged into it, and it does not seem to see it.
[18:18] <chandrageetha> i cannot actually understand the problem, and what to do next
[18:18] <ubuntu__> do anyone know, how i can remove the installatiob-icon from my usb-livesystem ??
[18:18] <beware> coz_: i know. i just didn't do it properly
[18:18] <ubuntu__> remove from desktop - i mean
[18:18] <chandrageetha> Mr. ubottu, would you please give me your private message to me once more.
[18:18] <drizzt_> chandrageetha, what ar you trying to upgrade?
[18:18] <coz_> beware,  so it'
[18:19] <coz_> beware,   so it's working now?
[18:19] <greezmunkey> beware: so you edited your grub.lst to get into the latest kernel?
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[18:19] <beware> yes
[18:19] <coz_> beware,  ok cool
[18:19] <beware> greezmunkey: yes
[18:19] <beware> :)
[18:19] <chandrageetha> mr. drizzt, what is radeon driver?
[18:19] <beware> the automatic update yesterday botched it
[18:19] <drizzt_> chandrageetha, your video driver, for your ATI RadeOn card
[18:19] <onetinsoldier> R0b0t1: what do you get if you type in 'ifconfig'? use pastebin for multiple lines
[18:19] <beware> it got me into the wrong kernel version, it seems
[18:20] <chandrageetha> yes, mr. drizzt, so what to do?
[18:20] <greezmunkey> beware: nice, I had grub legacy installed when I upgraded as well.
[18:20] <beware> yes im on grub-legacy
[18:20] <drizzt_> chandrageetha, let the system remove it, then re-install it later via 'proprietary drivers' icon later
[18:20] <beware> i have tried to get grub2 working
[18:20] <beware> but i didn't get it working so i went back
[18:21] <elhobab> can someone explain me how to do ?? http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/QSQdCaPP
[18:21] <chandrageetha> i gave the message sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install -f
[18:21] <elhobab> or what to do
[18:21] <chandrageetha> how to remove video driver
[18:22] <DuctTapeCoder> Is selinux on by default in Ubuntu Server?
[18:22] <blacktooth> +<password>.
[18:22] <chandrageetha> only video driver or the full OS?
[18:22] <blacktooth> I did sudo chmod 777 +R /dev by mistake.
[18:22] <blacktooth> How to revert the permissions to defaults?
[18:22] <drizzt_> chandrageetha, it will be remoced automatically if you preceed with upgrading
[18:22] <beware> isnt /dev a devfs?
[18:22] <beware> try to reboot
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> blacktooth:  Hmmm..  i thought /dev/ got repopulated at boot time. so a reboot should *SHOULD* fix it
[18:22] <blacktooth> yeah
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> **SHOULD*
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> :)
[18:23] <auf_> hello, ubuntu getting freeze when i set visual effect to normal or advanced
[18:23] <blacktooth> ok :)
[18:23] <chandrageetha> Mr.drizzt_ it removed some other file named fglrx or something
[18:23]  * Dr_Willis inserts a disclaimer.
[18:23] <auf_> my VIGA card is "intel 82945G "
[18:23] <chandrageetha> what is name of video driver? can i give the same command once more?
[18:23] <auf_> any suggestion ?
[18:23] <drizzt_> chandrageetha, 'fglrx' is your video driver
[18:23] <greezmunkey> Dr_Willis: I was working to connect an unsupported scanner. Created a device file there, needless to say after a reboot it was gone!
[18:24] <elhobab> please help when i've problem with a program called renpy http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/QSQdCaPP
[18:24] <drizzt_> chandrageetha, you will need a new version if you want to upgrade your system
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> greezmunkey:  yep. :) it dont work like it did in the old days
[18:24] <chandrageetha> ok. new version in the sense?
[18:24] <auf_> anyone can help me ?!
[18:24] <onetinsoldier> auf_: hello. Lucid has a problem with that type of video card, see here --> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004#Intel%208xx%20X%20freezes/crashes
[18:25] <chandrageetha> new version of OS or video driver?
[18:25] <greezmunkey> Dr_Willis: found that out - needless to say it didn't work. I can run the scanner via XP in virtualbox though - go figure!
[18:25] <zrl33> Have noone an idea what i can do with the error zrl3@zrl3-desktop:~$ DISPLAY=:0.0 gnome-screensaver-command --lock   >>>>>   ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.
[18:25] <zrl33> google cant help
[18:25] <auf_> onetinsoldier, thank you i will read it
[18:25] <onetinsoldier> auf_: there suggested workaround at that link i believe
[18:25] <chandrageetha> how to get the new version and get it installed?
[18:25] <shane3> not sure how to proceed, guess i'll jump right in...this is an issue that has many threads, but can't seem to find my exact scenario.  i have an external HD on my windows xp machine, but get an error when trying to access from ubuntu 9.10
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> zrl33:   You are trying to lock the screen via the command line once you have sshed in ?
[18:25] <onetinsoldier> auf_: there is a suggested workaround at that link i believe. you're welcome :) good luck
[18:26] <chandrageetha> if i download ubuntu 10.04 and get it reinstalled, will it solve the problem?
[18:26] <beware> coz_: is my situation of general interest? maybe others with grub-legacy have the same problem because the update mechanism makes the wrong changes (or no changes) in menu.lst
[18:26] <ertu> what could cause screen blinking and theme reset -- ie GTK controls have win95 look and feel, whereas window borders are ok. meh, it's the fifth time i copy pasted this
[18:26] <chandrageetha> which is the minimum memory required for 10.04?
[18:26] <blacktooth> anybody tried upgrading 8.10 to 10.04?
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> ertu:  try a new user - see if it affects them.
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> ertu:  ive never heard of anything causing a users theme settings to reset. Unless the window manager is crashing and somthing else is starting up to replace it
[18:27] <coz_> beware,   that's possible...although I have not seen it mentioned here so far.... but  I think it is of "general" interest for sure.... my guess is , however... that most people are going for a clean install
[18:27] <ertu> Dr_Willis, i have had the same screen blinking issue after a fresh install. it'd blink few mins before screen saver or if i started media player
[18:27] <greezmunkey> beware: I'm thinking *no* changes - I backed up grub.lst before trying the upgrade even. After upgrading they were identical.
[18:27] <drizzt_> can I mount ftp server like filesystem?
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> drizzt_:  with some of the 'fuse' tools - yes you can
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> drizzt_:  fuseftp perhaps (there may be alterantives also)
[18:28] <beware> if thats true im suggesting to get a fix for this into the update mechanism
[18:28] <chandrageetha> Mr. Ubottu, if i download and reinstall the full OS, will it solve the problem?
[18:28] <rallias> How do i make my ubuntu machine look like a windows share?
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> drizzt_:  gnome also has a feature to do it (for gnome)
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> !samba | rallias
[18:28] <coz_> beware,   go for it then... but as i said ... most people will go for clean install which of course includes grub2 :)
[18:28] <chandrageetha> or is there any difference when upgrading and installing  a new version?
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> rallias:  short answer - right click on a directory and share it. it 'should' appear on the network as a shared folder
[18:30] <blendmaster1024> i lost the game :(
[18:30] <elhobab> someone can help http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/QSQdCaPP
[18:30] <greezmunkey> rallias: bookmark this, you may need it: Samba > windows vista/7 problem: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.networking/2006-10/msg00629.html
[18:30] <Amharad> Hi any 1 talk in russian
[18:31] <onetinsoldier> elhobab: maybe try the #python channel
[18:31] <elhobab> onetinsoldier, ok thanks
[18:32] <drizzt_> see #ubuntu-ru
[18:32] <Amharad> drizzt_: tnx
[18:32] <Amharad> =)
[18:35] <onetinsoldier> welcome back greezmunkey
[18:36] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: split?
[18:36] <onetinsoldier> none here
[18:36] <shane3>  i have an external HD on my windows xp machine, but get an error when trying to access from ubuntu 9.10 .  i currently have samba installed and have shared the harddrive over the network.  i can access other file systems just not from external devices
[18:36] <onetinsoldier> no split that i've seen
[18:36] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: I changed servers, saw no activity for a while...
[18:36] <onetinsoldier> yeah, just quiet
[18:36] <greezmunkey> hmm
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> shane3:  install/run the ntfs-config tool - you may need to check the checkbox's to allow full access to external drives.
[18:37] <greezmunkey> I haven't been much help here for the past few days, work has been pretty intense - can you say brainfry???
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> greezmunkey:  youre fired.. :)
[18:38] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, my mic was working on skype and it just suddenly stopped. I'm using xbuntu and the xfce-mixer has the ext mic enabled and the volume is up... what else can I check for?
[18:38]  * Dr_Willis gives greezmunkey  some vacation time.
[18:38] <josh-N> i'm having problems configuring kmail with imap over ssl... i can't seem to upload messages to imap folders. error message is german, but it says something like "cannot write to resource". i can try to translate more of it.
[18:38] <rallias> why does windows network sharing take so long to discover?
[18:39] <greezmunkey> Dr_Willis: you know that's a great idea. The sun's out, and I have a pile of wood to stack.
[18:39] <rallias> Anyone has quit (Quit: Bye)
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> rallias:  i find that linux scans./sees the windows shares much much faster  then my real windows machines do
[18:39] <drizzt_> rallias, because Windows scans network each 15 minutes or so
[18:39]  * red2kic hire Dr_Willis to be greezmunkey's assistant 
[18:39] <rallias> i'm doing it on the linux machine
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> rallias:  the 'findsmb' and 'smbtree' command are fun to play with on linux also
[18:39] <elisa87> any IRANIAN here?
[18:40] <rallias> elisa87: I am from iran.. NOT!!!
[18:41] <elisa87> rallias what did you exactly mean?
[18:41] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, my mic was working on skype and it just suddenly stopped. I'm using xbuntu and the xfce-mixer has the ext mic enabled and the volume is up... what else can I check for?
[18:42] <shane3> Dr_Willis: shane3: are you referring to the ntfs tool avail on the software centre?
[18:43] <drizzt_> does someone use xfce + keyboard layout switcher?
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> shane3:  i dont use software center. i am refering to the tool that has the binarys with the name of 'ntfs-config'
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> !find ntfs-config
[18:43] <josh-N> question put differently : i'm using kubuntu. does it make sense to stick with kmail or should i just get thunderbird instead?
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> shane3:  the package name seems to be 'ntfs-config' also :)
[18:43] <drizzt_> josh-N, what the difference?
[18:43] <onetinsoldier> !info ntfs-config
[18:44] <drizzt_> josh-N, if you don;t want to throw up looking at KMail, you can use it just fine
[18:44] <tuxx> tell me about ubuntu 10.4/
[18:44] <tuxx> tell me about ubuntu 10.4?
[18:44] <josh-N> drizzt_: just asking for recommendations... atm i'm having problems using imap over ssl with kmail, but i have no idea whether thunderbird would make it easier ;)
[18:44] <thedude42> Anyone have any good resources for fixing VirtualBox complaining about KVM, even after you made sure the KVM modules weren't loading in init.d nor an upstart job?
[18:45] <alktors> I want to install eve online under wine could someone help me ? I stumbled into an error, and I can't get any  assistance from #winehq ...
[18:45] <drizzt_> josh-N, it works in thunderbird, at least with GMail
[18:45] <drizzt_> alktors, what it is?
[18:46] <alktors> drizzt_,  Well I got the game, execute the .exe and archive manager starts...An error occurred while loading the archive.
[18:46] <Dont-Hate> Hi
[18:46] <drizzt_> alktors, right-click it and choose Run in Wine
[18:46] <onetinsoldier> !hi | Dont-Hate
[18:47] <ubuntu-usr> hi all
[18:47] <alktors> drizzt_,  ohhh, excuse me, it works now. Thanks so much!
[18:47] <Dont-Hate> Thank you
[18:47] <alktors> drizzt_,  I hope it works as I have an account and would really want to play under ubuntu 10.04.
[18:47] <alktors> drizzt_,  Have you used wine yourself?
[18:47] <ubuntu-usr> i'm looking for ubuntu distro wchich i could install over internet. is it something like this?
[18:47] <drizzt_> alktors, I did
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> alktors:  ive noticed it odd that archive manager is the default program assoicated with .exe's also.. but i guess its better then accidently running some malware when you double click :)
[18:48] <alktors> Dr_Willis, Yes, shure is. :)
[18:48] <alktors> drizzt_,  Have you played runes of magic under wine?
[18:48] <mastaofdisasta> nevermind guys I got it playing with alsamixer and arecord
[18:48] <mastaofdisasta> thanks anyway
[18:48] <Dont-Hate> Any good graphical IRC client for ubuntu ?
[18:48] <alktors> drizzt_,  Checked app db and it is listed there as runing fine, but it crashes in my wine. :(
[18:48] <celeborn999> dont-hate: i like pidgin
[18:48] <drizzt_> Dont-Hate, xchat is the best
[18:49] <onetinsoldier> Dont-Hate: the gnome default one is pretty nice... xchat
[18:49] <Dont-Hate> in windows I had one which send flowers and words in colourfull
[18:49] <thedude42> Dont-Hate: empathy, xchat, irssi is console based but nice if you only have access to a shell
[18:49] <Dont-Hate> in ubuntu I could not found like tha
[18:49] <Haldor> Xchat doesn't really have all the same features as mIRC
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> I perfer WeeChat for COnsole/text based only chatting
[18:49] <celeborn999> empathy is buggy for irc
[18:50] <Haldor> Empathy doesn't work well
[18:50] <Dont-Hate> where are you from peoples mostly ?
[18:50] <onetinsoldier> i like irssi for console. used to use bitchx
[18:50] <Dont-Hate> me from Pakistan
[18:50] <Haldor> Haven't tried irssi yet
[18:50] <Wipster> hey all, got a graphical bug it seems when I start up my intel driver doesn't start fast enough or initialise properly leaving me with sometimes no login screen, the wrong resolution or a black screen. And it seems that it thinks my screen extends off to the right as well and when I go to monitor properties it seems to re init the screen and the edges are fine again
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> onetinsoldier:  try out weechat someday  it has some neat features.. takes a bit of learning however
[18:50] <red2kic> Dr_Willis: May I see your WeeChat SS? :)
[18:50]  * Dr_Willis goes Weeeeeee! :)
[18:50] <thedude42> Haldor: i haven't had any issues with empathy thus far
[18:50] <onetinsoldier> Dr_Willis: roger. thanks. i'll have to check it out :)
[18:51] <shane3> Dr_Willis: shane3: i installed ntfs-config and enabled write to external drives, but no luck.  i also restarted samba
[18:51] <Haldor> You can't connect on some servers.
[18:51] <Haldor> Cuz they require ident server
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> onetinsoldier:  it has a smart-ignore- of part/joins so you only see people leave that have recently talked.. so in theory you see people you are talkign to leave.. but not someone that has idled for 20 min.
[18:51] <celeborn999> anyone here good with UFW? having a problem where UFW is mysteriously blocking incoming smtp traffic though i have a rule allowing it
[18:51] <kerdal> having issues with using Rythmbox gather music off cds.
[18:51] <Haldor> and that I don't have.
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> shane3:  you are trying to share a external ntfs via samba? (thats teh core of the problem?)
[18:51] <onetinsoldier> Dr_Willis: sounds nice
[18:51] <alktors> Dr_Willis,  Do you know how to get an irc cloack like unaffiliated/user???Do you have to pay for one?
[18:52] <Haldor> causing to have to type in some phrase to connect which empathy doesn't allow
[18:52] <alktors> Dr_Willis,  And were exactly do you have to?
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> alktors:  they are free on freenode
[18:52] <alktors> Dr_Willis,  How can I get one to protect my ip?
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> alktors:  i forget where, but there some channel you ask for them
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> !cloak
[18:52] <celeborn999> dr_willis: though apparently there is a 2 week wait for new users
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> alktors:  i dont find it worth worrying about
[18:52] <alktors> Dr_Willis,  Thank you:)
[18:53] <onetinsoldier> firewall works for me :)
[18:53] <shane3> Dr_Willis: shane3:  i'm sharing the external drive from a windows xp pc.  i'm trying to view using samba on an ubuntu laptop
[18:54] <thedude42> Haldor: well, I am under the impression that most people don't run identd, but that's a valid point, it's not a complete irc solution
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> shane3:  ahh.. so you have to set up windows to share the external drive.. Not sure about that. #windows may know of any limits on doing that.
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> shane3:  do other windows machines see the shared external drive?
[18:55] <shane3> Dr_Willis: shane3:  well, i can see it on that pc - don't have any other windows boxes to try
[18:55] <Haldor> A fully functional client like mIRC I haven't seen yet on linux so far. Maybe that could be a neat project for when I get some free time on my hands. :)
[18:55] <shane3> i see the file through samba - i just get an error when trying ot mount
[18:55] <thedude42> shane: by default windows XPsp2 and later make shares only accessable by user 'Anonymous' unless you change your default sharing settings
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> shane3:  so other shares are seen? but not the external one?
[18:55] <Haldor> Lots of free time...
[18:55] <Morten_> Haldor, try konversation - it is quite like mirc
[18:55] <shane3> Dr_Willis: shane3:yes
[18:55] <thedude42> shane3: is what I meant there
[18:55] <Haldor> Hm I'll check it out, thx Morten_
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> shane3:  i alwys set up a windows user and linux uzser with identical names and passwords.. and sambapasswords (just to eliminate any issues in that area)
[18:56] <Morten_> you're welcome :)
[18:56] <thedude42> shane3: by default windows XPsp2 and later make shares only accessable by user 'Anonymous' unless you change your default sharing settings
[18:56] <onetinsoldier> Haldor: what qualifies a fully functional irc client?
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> Haldor:  if you want a Fancy Irc client that one called Quassle (i think) has some amazing eyecandy/features :)
[18:56] <onetinsoldier> Haldor: have you tried Kvirc?
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> quassel quassle?  somthing liek that
[18:56] <thedude42> shane3: by default your samba client will ask you for a user name if you go through the nautalis interface
[18:56] <shane3>  thedude42: how do you change teh default sharing settings?
[18:57] <Haldor> Ok i'm writing these down. See if one is to my liking.
[18:57] <b3lorix> I am currently having issues with firefox, some webpages all the images load, and some pages dont, i use adblock, but even when i disable it images still wont load sometimes. this also happens with flash sometimes
[18:57] <kerdal> so every cd that you purchase you may not be able to rip it to your library or use Rythmbox on it
[18:58] <thedude42> shane3: easiest way is in an explorer window, Tools => folder options and there's a tab in there with a bunch of check boxes, at the bottom is one where you can disable 'simple sharing' which is what prevents using anything but Anonymouse to connect
[18:58] <drizzt_> kerdal, what?
[18:58] <thedude42> shane3: harder way is through Group Policy Editor
[18:58] <airtonix> !who | kerdal
[18:59] <williambecker> irc.twit.tv
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> kerdal:  any 'protected' music cd's ive seen over the past  has been major failures at protecting the music. and very good at annoying legimate buyers.
[18:59] <shane3> thedude42: shane3 definately choose the easier route
[18:59] <onetinsoldier> Haldor: roger. i wouldn't be surprised if Kvirc has everything Mirc does
[18:59] <Haldor> Thx all
[18:59] <Name141> is 'update-apt-xapi' the daily update checker?
[19:00] <Visualante1> hello Ubuntu, i'm trying to reinstall GRUB via live DVD
[19:00] <Name141> It's taking up all the CPU at the current time.
[19:00] <kerdal> question about audio cds, that I have purchased, I am have issues with using Rythmbox, it states that it does see the mime to use drizzt
[19:00] <Visualante1> but the file system doesn't show up
[19:00] <b3lorix> I am currently having issues with firefox, some webpages all the images load, and some pages dont, i use adblock, but even when i disable it images still wont load sometimes. this also happens with flash. Does anyone know what could be causing this?
[19:01] <thedude42> Visualante1: how did you get to the point that you needed to re-install Grub?
[19:01] <Visualante1> thedude42: i installed Windows 7
[19:01] <red2kic> b3lorix: Try different web browser? Chrome or Opera.
[19:01] <thedude42> Visualante1: what do you see on your hard drive in the live environment?
[19:02] <Visualante1> two Windows partitions, and a files partition
[19:02] <kerdal> Dr_Willis okay.
[19:03] <thedude42> Visualante1: so you're trying to install grub before you install Linux, or you just want to use grub as your boot manager?
[19:03] <DCGstudios> good morning
[19:03] <onetinsoldier> DCGstudios: howdy
[19:03] <Visualante1> thedude42: i want to get back to my old Linux partition
[19:03] <shane3> (01:58:14 PM) thedude42: shane3: after checking on my windows machine i don't see an option to disable simple sharing.
[19:03] <josh-N> i have two certificate files ("*.cer") from my provider for imap and smtp server... how do i tell kmail to accept those certificates?
[19:03] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, your running 2 linux partitions?
[19:04] <thedude42> Visualante1: ok, and that's the problem, you don't see the linux partition at all in the live environment?
[19:04] <josh-N> (the certificates are for ssl connection)
[19:04] <onetinsoldier> DCGstudios: he overwrote his grub by installing win7
[19:04] <KingSeta> Hey there! Would anybody help me by sending me 0.1$ to paypal that i can buy this: http://www.wolfire.com/humble???? I only have 2 hours left... it would be sooooooo nice!
[19:04] <Visualante1> thedude42:  exactly, DCGstudios no, i had XP and Ubuntu, when i installed Windows 7 it destroyed GRUB removing my access to Ubuntu
[19:05] <DCGstudios> ah okay, easy fix. Visualante1, which version of grub are you currently running?
[19:05] <thedude42> shane3: do you see the tab in folder options that has all the check boxes, with things like "show hidden files" and "hide extenstions of known file types"?
[19:05] <Visualante1> i don't know, i believe it's pre-Karmic but i'm not sure
[19:06] <DCGstudios> okay, if you wanna pastebin a 'fdisk -l' might make it a little easier. but your going to need to mount your linux partition, and navagate to the /boot/grub directory.
[19:06] <shane3> thedude42: shane3:  yes i see that folder
[19:06] <shane3> thedude42: shane3: view tab
[19:07] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, actually if your on a  live CD go ahead and run 'cd /boot/grub | ls -a | grep menu.lst'  and post the output.
[19:07] <Visualante1> http://pastebin.com/xKqJJXdn
[19:07] <d3javu> hi all
[19:07] <brayden> Hi d3javu
[19:07] <drizzt_> !ops kingseta: spam
[19:07] <d3javu> how can i speed up my ubuntu 10.4
[19:08] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, awsome, throw me the output of the above command and we can get started
[19:08] <brayden> d3javu, that depends, speed up and still look good?
[19:08] <Visualante1> boot/grub doesn't exist
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> d3javu:  put it high on a shelf so the bits can run downhill faster,
[19:09] <BluesKaj> Visualante1, sudo update-grub
[19:09] <Wipster> hey all, got a graphical bug it seems when I start up my intel driver doesn't start fast enough or initialise properly leaving me with sometimes no login screen, the wrong resolution or a black screen. And it seems that it thinks my screen extends off to the right as well and when I go to monitor properties it seems to re init the screen and the edges are fine again. Any idea how I can make sure it inits properly before mo
[19:09] <Wipster> ving on
[19:09] <red2kic> d3javu: Put it in the car so you can drive it faster.
[19:09] <shane3> thedude42:  just got this off microsoft page Note You cannot disable simple file sharing in Windows XP Home Edition.
[19:09] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, do you have your linux partition mounted yet? if not, then run 'mkdir /mounthere | mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /mounthere'
[19:10] <shane3> any other options?
[19:10] <d3javu> hey no i wont to stop services .
[19:10] <DCGstudios> BluesKaj, we dont even know if hes running grub2 yet. dont give him incorrect commands.
[19:10] <Visualante1> no it wasn't mounted because it wasn't in the GUI as a mount option. i can follow the YouTube tutorial if that's what i needed
[19:10] <d3javu> somethink like bluethoot
[19:10] <red2kic> d3javu: "sudo service bluetooth stop"
[19:11]  * red2kic hopes d3javu does not use bluetooth keyboard/mouse at the moment
[19:11] <DCGstudios> okay visualante1, go ahead and run that command and it will mount your drive (i belive its ext3 and sda3 from your fdisk) to /mounthere
[19:11] <BluesKaj> DCGstudios, nothing incorrect , if it's not there, but ti is a way to find out
[19:12] <thedude42> shane3: ah yes, home edition... I'm so used to people using pro... then you need to connect as Anonymous without a password from samba
[19:12] <DCGstudios> BluesKaj, will that work from a live cd as well to tell if hes using grub2?
[19:12] <d3javu> i know this , but i wont  stop anadher services by default start whit system
[19:12] <christina> i am using ubuntu live cd 9.10 to boot pc but it is asking for username and password for login ??? what to enter ??
[19:12] <thedude42> shane3: are you using the command line samba client or the nautalis interface (which would be using the 'connect to server' dialog int he desktop gui)
[19:13] <BluesKaj> DCGstudios, uhm no grub on he live cd , it boots itself
[19:13] <d3javu> what irc client do you use xchat or xchat-gnoeme or samthink else
[19:13] <undecim> How do I tell what package a command is from?
[19:13] <DCGstudios> BluesKaj yea didnt think so, im trying to direct him to check for a menu.lst to decide which version of grub were working with.
[19:13] <erUSUL> undecim: i use this « dpkg -S $(which command) »
[19:13] <Visualante1> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3,
[19:13] <josh-N> i have two certificate files from my provider for imap and smtp server over ssl... how do i tell kmail to accept those certificates?
[19:14] <onetinsoldier> undecim: dpkg -S /path/to/file/<command>
[19:14] <Visualante1> d3javu: typically irssi
[19:14] <shane3> ) thedude42: shane3 not using command line - must be gui interface.  just dl'd nautalus
[19:14] <undecim> erUSUL: Ty, worked like a charm
[19:14] <d3javu> :) but it very hard program
[19:14] <BluesKaj> DCGstudios, right , if he's using legacy grub , he'll have grub/menu.lst
[19:14] <FFForever> Ello
[19:15] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, do you happen to know which type of extended filesystem your linux partition is using? lol
[19:15] <FFForever> what is wrong with this? #!/bin/bash <new line> gnome-screenshot -a when I make this a keyboard shortcut it just takes the whole screen as the selection =\
[19:15] <onetinsoldier> undecim: nvm... erUSUL got you helped with one even better :)
[19:15] <Visualante1> no
[19:15] <reimen> hej
[19:15] <airtonix> FFForever, use --area instead
[19:15] <d3javu> steg hay ka ??? :) is ther Armenian boy
[19:15] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, if you open the GUI menu at System > Administration > Disk utility  (sda3 is your linux drive) it will tell you
[19:15] <thedude42> DCGstudios: i'm kinda more curious about why he can't see his linux partition from the live cd
[19:16] <FFForever> airtonix, I did, it didn't make a difference
[19:16] <BluesKaj> Visualante1, alt+f2 type /etc/grub/menu.lst ...does it show ?
[19:16] <red2kic> FFForever: Use aliases or scrot.
[19:16] <airtonix> FFForever, i also have --include-borders on my shrotcut
[19:16] <DCGstudios> thedude42, i see an extended filesystem and a swap partition on his fdisk. http://pastebin.com/xKqJJXdn       i belive its just not mounted.
[19:16] <drizzt_> josh-N, your provider is so cheapskate that issue self-signed certificates?
[19:17] <airtonix> FFForever, are you editing this command in gconf-editor ?
[19:17] <josh-N> i can read my imap (ssl) folders, but not write to them in kmail - as in unable to put a copy of sent mail in my sent folder... error message "cannot write to resource"
[19:17] <markl_> is there an easy way to tell if my usb device is using usb1 or usb2 ?
[19:17] <carael> carael@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get python-q4
[19:17] <carael> [sudo] password for carael:
[19:17] <carael> E: Invalid operation python-q4
[19:17] <Visualante1> disk utility isn't there
[19:17] <FFForever> airtonix, I just saved it as a base script
[19:17] <carael> i need python for dynamips how can i fix that
[19:17] <josh-N> drizzt_: i don't think they're self signed... maybe the problem isn't with the certificates, but i'm not sure
[19:17] <FFForever> bash*, then I added a shortcut for it
[19:17] <thedude42> shane3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba#Samba%20Client%20-%20Manual%20Configuration
[19:17] <BluesKaj> oops , Visualante1 sorry /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:17] <DCGstudios> Does anyone know the command to check a partition filesystem type? i cant seem to remember it
[19:18] <xangua> carael: maybe python-qt4 instead of python-q4¿
[19:18] <airtonix> FFForever, btw are you using compiz too ?
[19:18] <josh-N> drizzt_: i can read the imap folders just fine, so maybe the certificates are ok... but i can't move/copy messages
[19:18] <FFForever> airtonix, no compiz
[19:18] <airtonix> FFForever, it works now ?
[19:18] <drizzt_> josh-N, is there some error?
[19:19] <FFForever> nope :(
[19:19] <carael> thx
[19:19] <onetinsoldier> DCGstudios: i usually use cfdisk
[19:19] <Visualante1> i'm fairly certain sda3 is my linux partition because it has sda5 linux-swap linked to it
[19:20] <DCGstudios> awsome thats it onetinsoldier
[19:20] <josh-N> drizzt_: yes, there is. it's german however... the headline i would translate to "cannot write to resource"
[19:20] <onetinsoldier> DCGstudios: cheers
[19:20] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, lets see if we can do it without the filesystem type.  ' mount /dev/sda3 /mounthere
[19:20] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, youll need to run it as sudo , of couse.
[19:21] <Visualante1> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[19:21] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, grrrr
[19:21] <thedude42> DCGstudios: take a closer look at that output in pastebin
[19:21] <Visualante1> partition manager says extended
[19:22] <FFForever> airtonix, someone recommended adding sleep before the command and that works perfect
[19:22] <DCGstudios> thedude42, what am i missing?
[19:22] <drizzt_> josh-N, try to run from terminal 'LANG=C kmail' and lookup the english error text on Kmail bugtracker
[19:22] <DCGstudios> visualante1, yea i see its extended... a question of weather its ext2 3 4
[19:22] <josh-N> drizzt_: http://pastebin.com/hrFyeV6J
[19:22] <thedude42> DCGstudios: that /dev/sda3 partition is the extended partition that contains /dev/dev/sda4 and /dev/sda5
[19:23] <airtonix> FFForever, /shrug i just edit the option with gconf-editor and just put gnome-screenshot --area --include-border as command 9
[19:23] <josh-N> drizzt_: ok, i'll try to run with LANG=C, thanks
[19:23] <airtonix> FFForever, im using 9.10 and it works for me
[19:23] <DCGstudios> thedude42, yea well sda5 is his swap.. and im assuming sda4 is either a windows partition or a storage partition right?
[19:23] <onetinsoldier> DCGstudios: have him run cfdisk on the drive yet?
[19:23] <FFForever> airtonix, is it possible to get the filename so I can automatically upload to imgur?
[19:24] <Visualante1> it could be unallocated
[19:24] <Visualante1> no sda4 is NTFS
[19:24] <Visualante1> it's windows
[19:24] <AhmedBH> Hi everyone
[19:24] <DCGstudios> onetinsoldier, acctually i cant even get it to run on my computer, im checking out the man page as we speak lol (fatal error drive not found)
[19:24] <airtonix> FFForever, not sure...
[19:24] <carael> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev zliblg-dev libsdl-dev libpcap-dev
[19:24] <carael> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:24] <carael> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:24] <thedude42> DCGstudios: Visualante1: I hate to say it, but it looks like your linux partition somehow got mangled and now appears to be filesystem id 7 for some reason, my assumption is the vista installer
[19:24] <carael> what can i do
[19:24] <AhmedBH> anyone knows what 5061 port is for ?
[19:24] <onetinsoldier> DCGstudios: oh... i see
[19:24] <Visualante1> oh tits
[19:25] <syme> in 10.04, I can't find my sound preferences... System>Preferences>Sound is missing... what can I do to restore it?
[19:25] <DCGstudios> onetinsoldier, am i using it with incorrect syntax or something? 'cfdisk /dev/sda1'
[19:25] <airtonix> FFForever, you can use imagemagik instead : import
[19:25] <Visualante1> well it's no big deal i wanted to update to the new version of Ubuntu. can you help me remove whatever used to be there and i'll just install from scratch
[19:25] <erUSUL> carael: close synaptic or update manager or whicever other apt frontend you have open
[19:25] <arleslie> Where is the desktop folder for the user ROOT
[19:25] <onetinsoldier> AhmedBH: grep 5061 /etc/services --> sip-tls		5061/tcp, sip-tls		5061/udp
[19:25] <drizzt_> arleslie, /root/Desktop
[19:26] <DCGstudios> Well visualate1, you can just format the entire /dev/sda3 partition and begin a fresh install on there which will restore your grub as well.
[19:26] <erUSUL> AhmedBH: chaeck what has it open « lsof -i :5061 »
[19:26] <AhmedBH> onetinsoldier: Thanks man
[19:26] <onetinsoldier> DCGstudios: cfdisk /dev/sda
[19:26] <thedude42> DCGstudios: Visualante1: I mean, the data may still be there, but I would expect to see the fulesystem id type of at least one type of linux file system
[19:26] <AhmedBH> It helped a lot
[19:26] <onetinsoldier> AhmedBH: you're welcome
[19:26] <AhmedBH> :)
[19:26] <airtonix> FFForever, you use : import filename.png
[19:26] <carael> E: Couldn't find package zliblg-dev
[19:26] <carael> know it says me that
[19:26] <timyeung> i forgot my password for nickserv how do i retrieve it?
[19:26] <Visualante1> thedude42: well that's no problem i store my data elsewhere because i will never know how to maintain linux properly
[19:27] <DCGstudios> onetinsoilder, apparently it doesnt play well with gparted GUID partition tables?
[19:27] <AhmedBH> Simple Net Mgmt Protocol ? what is this usually uses ? system ? i dont think its by any program that uses 161 port
[19:27] <onetinsoldier> DCGstudios: it should. i did it on my hard drive that was partitioned and formatted by Lucid installer
[19:27] <airtonix> FFForever, mind if i see how you're uploading to imgur ?
[19:27] <CosmiChaos> Ive upgradd from karmic to lucid on my dads computer with nvidia graphic. Now it hangs on boot with broken screen-output, when i try recovery console it just hangs.. showing the ugly plymouth progress bar and no TTY1 available.... what is the problem ? please help
[19:27] <onetinsoldier> DCGstudios: works fine here
[19:28] <thedude42> Visualante1: you wouldb't have had this issue if it was only XP, but adding vista to the mix complicates things
[19:28] <Visualante1> DCGstudios: how would i format SDA3 without compromising any of the Windows drives?
[19:28] <DCGstudios> onetinsolider, yea so did mine lol and its complaining at me
[19:28] <Visualante1> well i am leaving XP now anyway, haven't used it in a year
[19:28] <syme> in 10.04, I can't find my sound preferences... System>Preferences>Sound is missing... what can I do to restore it?
[19:28] <onetinsoldier> DCGstudios: roger. cfdisk is the most strict utility when it comes to partitions tables. if anything's wrong, it'll complain
[19:28] <josh-N> drizzt_: http://pastebin.com/2yudQrKa
[19:28] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, well as your already in a live CD just go ahead and go to System > Administration > G parted, and select your entire /dev/sda3 partition, and format it.
[19:29] <thedude42> Visualante1: congradulations! I've made the same transition myself a little over a year ago
[19:29] <bsmith0931> if anyone happens to be running the linksys wrt54g version 6 they just had a firmware update
[19:29] <FFForever> airtonix, I have no written that part yet, I am trying to figure out how to get the filename first. One step at a time
[19:29] <DCGstudios> onetinsolider, interesting, i remember using it a long time ago and working as it should.. i guess ill read around about it.
[19:30] <onetinsoldier> DCGstudios: roger. good luck
[19:30] <Visualante1> DCGstudios: GParted doesn't seem to have an option for it
[19:30] <Visualante1> all grey
[19:30] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, An option to format?
[19:31] <CosmiChaos> Ive upgradd from karmic to lucid on my dads computer with nvidia graphic. Now it hangs on boot with broken screen-output, when i try recovery console it just hangs.. showing the ugly plymouth progress bar and no TTY1 available.... what is the problem ? please help
[19:31] <Visualante1> yes
[19:31] <CosmiChaos> i hve no more kernel to login to a recovery console
[19:31] <CosmiChaos> god the dist-upgrade crashed the hole mashine wtf
[19:32] <d3javu> ppl where in ubuntu a can find demons in which folder
[19:32] <C-S-B> in /root/666/
[19:32] <spikeb> heh
[19:32] <syme> in 10.04, I can't find my sound preferences... System>Preferences>Sound is missing... what can I do to restore it?
[19:32] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, So you see /dev/sda3.. right click that partition and press format to > ext3 (you can do ext4 if you want, slightly faster)
[19:32] <Robert_Zenz> Does someone know how I can change the Keep-Alive behavior of Nautilus for FTP-Connections?
[19:32] <Wipster> hey all, got a graphical bug it seems when I start up my intel driver doesn't start fast enough or initialise properly leaving me with sometimes no login screen, the wrong resolution or a black screen. And it seems that it thinks my screen extends off to the right as well and when I go to monitor properties it seems to re init the screen and the edges are fine again. Any idea how I can make sure it inits properly?
[19:33] <Visualante1> format to is greyed out though
[19:33] <__stefan___> anyone knows whether network manager bug has been fixed in 9.10 or not?
[19:33] <DCGstudios> CosmiChaos, try to run sudo update-grub, it will detect the available vmlinuz files and intrid files and add them to your boot menu.
[19:33] <thedude42> CosmiChaos: did you manyally install a display driver before the dist-upgrade?
[19:33] <__stefan___> I am little outta date ... so if you have new info, do share. :)
[19:33] <CosmiChaos> DCGstudios, HOW TO DO THAT WITHOUT A CONSOLE????
[19:33] <FFForever> Anyone have an idea why when I upgraded from 9.10 -> 10.04 it lost network:// functionality
[19:33] <DCGstudios> CosmiChaos, are you speaking in tounge? =P    you need terminal.
[19:33] <CosmiChaos> thedude42, no i did update-manager removed the old 2.6.27 and rebooted
[19:34] <thedude42> CosmiChaos: hit escape when the grub prot asks you, then boot to recovery mode
[19:34] <CosmiChaos> thedude42, dont you listen THAT HANGS!!!!!
[19:34] <timyeung> I was installing the update and there was a power outage :-( I am going to attempt to burn an ubuntu 10.04 installation disk. I don't want to lose any information as i don't have a back up. Is this the right course of action?
[19:34] <C-S-B> syme, gnome-volume-control
[19:34] <CosmiChaos> i have NO MORE KERNEL left with working recovery mode
[19:34] <gigasoft> ubuntu 32 bit vs ubuntu 64 bit, question is now? [so what you recommend]
[19:34] <C-S-B> syme, just recreate the shortcut
[19:34] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, if you right click it can you unmount it?
[19:34] <C-S-B> gigasoft, 64
[19:34] <thedude42> CosmiChaos: where does it hang, before it gives you a choice of what to do or after?
[19:34] <Visualante1> it isn't mounted
[19:34] <CosmiChaos> on mountall sda1
[19:35] <yunus> #ubuntu-tr
[19:35] <thedude42> CosmiChaos: what filesystem is root?
[19:35] <CosmiChaos> thedude42, BEFORE at mountall sda1 something
[19:35] <CosmiChaos> ext4?
[19:35] <syme> C-S-B: how do I do that?
[19:35] <gigasoft> C-S-B, why?
[19:35] <C-S-B> syme, right click the ubuntu icon in top right
[19:35] <thedude42> CosmiChaos: try booting to live cd and doing an fsck on your drive
[19:36] <CosmiChaos> hmmm
[19:36] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, very strange.. can you go to console and run 'cd /mounthere | ls -a' and see if you get output
[19:36] <katsuru> hello, i got a question regarding terminal commands, when i want to open a .png for example and the name of the file contains one or 2 empty spaces b4 the name of the file like this "  12file.png", how do i open it trough terminal command?  I know that the usual command will be "gnome-open File.png" but with spaces at the begging it wont work.
[19:36] <thedude42> CosmiChaos: or see if it mounts and look at your logs
[19:36] <C-S-B> gigasoft, 64bit allows addressing of more than 3gb of ram and 64bit code will run quicker
[19:36] <gigasoft> C-S-B, why do you recommend 64 bit?
[19:36] <timyeung> gigasoft, if you have a 64 bit machine then install the 64 bit version. it is faster
[19:36] <C-S-B> :) ^
[19:36] <thedude42> CosmiChaos: either way that will tell you more than ytou know now
[19:36] <mkquist> gigasoft: I'm using 64 bit with no problems on my desktop
[19:36] <CosmiChaos> thedude42, im so fckn annoying of canonical not making it possible to safe upgrade with regular hardware
[19:36] <_OskaR_> hey
[19:36] <CosmiChaos> brb
[19:36] <gigasoft> ok, but 64 bit use lot of ram memory, :(
[19:36] <jpt9> Hey.  Quick question.  I'm running Ubuntu 9.10, and I can't seem to find xorg.conf.  Does it actually create one out of the box?
[19:37] <mkquist> gigasoft: uses your processor more efficiently
[19:37] <DCGstudios> CosmiChaos, dont expect perfume and flowers with dist upgrades, fresh installs are reccommended.
[19:37] <overmind> 64bit = 2 cores, right?
[19:37] <timyeung> I was installing the update and there was a power outage :-( I am going to attempt to burn an ubuntu 10.04 installation disk. I don't want to lose any information as i don't have a back up. Is this the right course of action?
[19:37] <overmind> (or more)
[19:37] <mabus> katsuru: you can escape spaces with \, so you could "gnome-open \ \ File.jpg" but what I would more likely do is gnome-open *File.jpg
[19:37] <Visualante1> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3,
[19:37] <thedude42> CosmiChaos: yeah, i've been fighting with things too, but I know i'm culpable because I've done all kinds of dumb crap to my install over 3 dist upgrades, without taking the time to read the release notes.... I'm paying for that myself
[19:37] <Visualante1> it never mounted in the first place
[19:37] <C-S-B> gigasoft, trust me, 64bit is the future, install it and be happy
[19:37] <C-S-B> gigasoft, do it now. :)
[19:37] <onetinsoldier> try dist-upgrade with micrsoft os's.. see how well they work out :D
[19:37] <gigasoft> ok, thanks all.
[19:37] <C-S-B> syme, how are you getting on?
[19:37] <mabus> if you want your flash support to be good.. sometime in the future..?
[19:37] <_OskaR_> i dl. the ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso and slapped it in my HTPC running on an Asus Mb with 780 chipset. . upon Boot from CD i get picture and select install.. but then i LOSE PICTURE AND IT NEVER COMES BACK !
[19:38] <xxiao> why is my kernel msg only in dmesg, want to duplicate it on ttyS0 after booted up, used to work that way
[19:38] <xxiao> printk to 8 does not help
[19:38] <overmind> C-S-B: I have intel celeron 2.80 ghz (1 core). I can't use 64 bit, right?
[19:38] <syme> C-S-B: getting on what?
[19:38] <CosmiChaos> DCGstudios, i have the exact same hardware than my father i ran through eery ALPHA1 since jaunty without a fresh install and never had any problems, but then my dads pc with sensitive data OF COURSE IT BREAKS
[19:38] <CosmiChaos> at regular dist-upgrade
[19:38] <katsuru> mabus thanks worked, i tried the "\" without spaces between, now it worked, thanks mate
[19:38] <onetinsoldier> CosmiChaos: you had the data backed up?
[19:38] <C-S-B> overmind, i dont know the processor spec, but alot of the recent ish intels are compat
[19:38] <greezmunkey_Zzz> CosmiChaos: did you back up prior?
[19:38] <thedude42> CosmiChaos: i doubt that the data is gone
[19:38] <KingSeta> I know its crazy, put please help me. I need this Games http://www.wolfire.com/humble anybody can help me with buing it or sending me 0.1$??? I would kiss your ass, if that is waht you like for it!
[19:39] <CosmiChaos> onetinsoldier, no because i had a same hardware system already upgraded to lucid ....
[19:39] <C-S-B> syme, with the sound menu option
[19:39] <DCGstudios> CosmiChaos, you should create a seperate home partition for your configuations and files so that way you can just fresh install to upgrade, youll rarley have problems.
[19:39] <KingSeta> There are only 1.5 hours left... i cant get so fast money to paypal...
[19:39] <shane3> thedude42: i'm not haveing any luck with this - i can't get past the password prompt - right or wront i need gui to survive
[19:39] <onetinsoldier> CosmiChaos: roger. as thedude42 said, data is probably still there
[19:39] <syme> C-S-B: well, I added gnome-volume-control in the main menu under preference, but it said it couldn't find it
[19:40] <syme> C-S-B: it said no such file or directory
[19:40] <C-S-B> overmind, see if a live 64bit distro will boot
[19:40] <C-S-B> syme, have you uninstalled something?
[19:40] <KingSeta> Please Help an Linux friend...
[19:40] <CosmiChaos> lol now the PSU-Fan broke OMG
[19:40] <zleap> KingSeta, we can try
[19:41] <spikeb> CosmiChaos, one thing after another
[19:41] <overmind> C-S-B: I'll try. And thank you, I didn't know that about 64bits
[19:41] <thedude42> shane3: assume that the ip address of the windows machine is IPADDRESS... then use this command: smbclient -L //IPADDRESS -U Anonymous
[19:41] <onetinsoldier> CosmiChaos: no!
[19:41] <CosmiChaos> and my dad said: dont tell me somethign needs to be replaced
[19:41] <drizzt_> !op kingseta spam
[19:41] <CosmiChaos> xD
[19:41] <overmind> drizzt_: !ops
[19:41] <_OskaR_> i dl. the ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso and slapped it in ....IS there a way to force load fglrx ?
[19:41] <syme> C-S-B: nope, it never appeared from the start
[19:41] <overmind> drizzt_: And use | before command
[19:41] <thedude42> shane3: if that doesn't work then you need to check the firewall settings on your windows machine
[19:41] <Visualante1> anyone know how i can format a partition when it isn't mounted?
[19:41] <overmind> yay, after command
[19:41] <C-S-B> syme, odd.
[19:42] <BeteNoire> hi, do you know a program to easily adjust gamma/collor temperature?
[19:42] <thedude42> Visualante1: you unmount the partition, then format it?
[19:42] <jihedamine> Hi, I'd like to create a python gnome-applet where a method is executed every 60 seconds
[19:42] <DASPRiD> BeteNoire, gimp
[19:42] <jihedamine> I created a basic applet, but how to call a method every x seconds (using python) please?
[19:42] <Visualante1> thedude42: well i dunno how to unmount it then because GParted won't let me
[19:42] <BeteNoire> DASPRiD: i mean a lcd laptop display
[19:42] <Visualante1> unless something else is wrong with it
[19:42] <drizzt_> BeteNoire, your video driver should provide one, ubuntu have no color management
[19:43] <C-S-B> Visualante1, you might be in the wrong chan for that kind of question
[19:43] <thedude42> Visualante1: try using the parted command line tool
[19:43] <DASPRiD> BeteNoire, oh :), i think the nvidia tools do that (if you have an nvidia card)
[19:43] <BeteNoire> drizzt_: it's intel's
[19:43]  * rldwallace is looking for a solution to a mouse responding with double clicks when single clicked
[19:43] <KingSeta> Nobody can give 0.1$ to paypal?
[19:44] <shane3>  thedude42: i got a list that time of the folders i have shared - however this is what it says after the list
[19:44] <shane3> Called name not present)
[19:44] <Gigafide> Hi everybody
[19:44] <onetinsoldier> !hi | Gigafide
[19:45] <Gigafide> thanks so hows everyone doing today
[19:45] <onetinsoldier> ok, how are you?
[19:45] <nemesis_> !controls
[19:45] <j64> how do I add network manager back to the notification area in gnome?
[19:46] <C-S-B> j64, it is the notification applet
[19:46] <mkquist> Visualante1: i thought i had to be unmounted to partition anyway?
[19:46] <onetinsoldier> j64: nm-applet command.... i think
[19:46] <DCGstudios> wow i didnt know you could move those controls back to the right, thanks!
[19:46] <thedude42> shane3: so take that error message, put it in quotes, paste that in to google along with the terms ubuntu, smbclient and windows home.... and you'll be doing the the next things I would be doing
[19:46] <rldwallace> Ok...I guess no one has come across this issue
[19:47] <nemesis_> DCGstudios: yw. I did it on a different computer the other day and couldnt remember how, so came back here just for that
[19:47] <moza> !flash
[19:47] <nemesis_> lol
[19:47] <Visualante1> what is the gparted command for formating sda3?
[19:47] <onetinsoldier> rldwallace: what's the issue? you should repeat it like every 5-10 minutes
[19:48] <thedude42> Visualante1: have you attempted to open a terminal and run 'parted /dev/sda3' ?
[19:48] <rldwallace> @onetin: When I click my mouse it responds with a double click
[19:48] <C-S-B> Anyone know how to make the eject hotkey work with creating a new shortcut to the 'eject' command
[19:48] <onetinsoldier> Visualante1: what type are you wanting to format it in? ext3?
[19:48] <rldwallace> Intermittently
[19:49] <Visualante1> i don't even know what that is. i just know what linux and windows are.
[19:49] <rldwallace> no...I havent' had too much coffee
[19:49] <DCGstudios> nemesis_, is there acctually a way to do it? that link was just a bug report =\
[19:49] <onetinsoldier> rldwallace: i don't know... someone else might though
[19:49] <Visualante1> gparted says it's unallocated so i guess i have to allocate before i format
[19:49] <onetinsoldier> Visualante1: yes
[19:49] <rldwallace> Thanks anyhow onetin :)
[19:49] <BluesKaj> Visualante1, just check the options with that partition highlighted
[19:49] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, your /dev/sda3 is unallocated right?
[19:49] <Visualante1> yes
[19:49] <onetinsoldier> rldwallace: good luck :-)
[19:50] <brianl> I am using Ubuntu for the first time, and i am curious how i go about setting up my wireless internet?
[19:50] <thedude42> ?
[19:50] <thedude42> oops
[19:50] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, yea man your good to go, get that 10.04 install CD in there and format it as ext3 or ext4 and get installing.
[19:50] <ATH-45ARIS> GEIAAA!!!!!!
[19:50] <C-S-B> brianl, top left
[19:50] <drizzt_> brianl, if it doesn't work for you, it may never will
[19:50] <DCGstudios> Visualante1,  once you get it formatted it will no longer be Unallocated
[19:50] <brianl> top left?
[19:50] <C-S-B> brianl, click the wireless icon
[19:50] <notmorewindows> hi with vista i had from load = 40% ram  , now with lubuntu  10.04 lts   i have since 8 to 16 %  , this is only a date
[19:51] <brianl> It just had wired, nothing for the wireless
[19:51] <ATH-45ARIS> POIOS  EINAII EDW  ????????????????
[19:51] <ubuntu__> hi
[19:51] <drizzt_> !el
[19:51] <jungli> y0
[19:51] <DCGstudios> brianl, go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers, and enable your wireles drivers.
[19:51] <io_> ./ server irc.abjects.net
[19:51] <jungli> hello how can i beamster of linux
[19:51] <Gigafide> So any one mad about gimp or are you guys glad ?
[19:52] <ahau> Hello
[19:52] <drizzt_> notmorewindows, and your problem is?
[19:52] <darkweasel> short question: how can it happen that even though nautilus shows that there's more than 300 mb left on my digital music player, if i copy 130 mb there, it says "no space left on device"?!
[19:52] <Tazer> What about gimp?
[19:52] <brianl> It hays no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[19:52] <DCGstudios> brianl, once you get your drivers up and running your wireless connection will become available in the same place your ethernet is.
[19:52] <Gigafide> about it being removed
[19:52] <brianl> should i plug the computer into the internet to do it?
[19:52] <jungli> helleo how can change chm file to pdf
[19:52] <jungli> helleo how can change chm file to pdf
[19:52] <drizzt_> darkweasel, does it copy files in root folder? it has limited capacity
[19:52] <Tazer> Oh, from Ubuntu itself?
[19:53] <Tazer> I don't see that it matters, you can just download it :U
[19:53] <darkweasel> drizzt_: well, directly to /media/307C-883F where my music player is mounted - this folder has limited capacity?
[19:53] <DCGstudios> brianl, can you please open terminal at Applications > Accessories > Terminal. then type 'sudo lspci | grep Network'  best to copy paste from here if you are new.
[19:53] <darkweasel> i'll try to copy it to a subfolder, thanks
[19:53] <Wipster> hey all, got a graphical bug it seems when I start up my intel driver doesn't start fast enough or initialise properly leaving me with sometimes no login screen, the wrong resolution or a black screen. And it seems that it thinks my screen extends off to the right as well and when I go to monitor properties it seems to re init the screen and the edges are fine again. Any idea how I can make sure it inits properly?
[19:54] <DCGstudios> brianl, yes youll need at least a wired connect to detect the drivers in order to install them
[19:54] <Gigafide> iv been reading alot of reviews of 10.04 and there saying ubuntus copying mac what do you guys think ?
[19:54] <brianl> DCGstudios: Okay im trying now let me see if that works
[19:54] <drizzt_> darkweasel, if your media player appears as FAT volume, you cannot copy many files in it's root directory, especially if they have long names
[19:54] <greezmunkey> drizzt_: WHat's that about limited capacity on root?
[19:54] <onetinsoldier> Wipster: i think lucid has some problems with itel graphics cards. are you using lucid?
[19:55] <onetinsoldier> intel*
[19:55] <Tazer> Ubuntu is nothing like OS X/Macs
[19:55] <drizzt_> greezmunkey, only 512 directory entries on FAT 16 volume
[19:55] <DCGstudios> tazer, closer then windows.
[19:55] <Tazer> I should know given I have a macbook and run all three operating systems
[19:55] <darkweasel> drizzt_: ahh thank you, i'll try to copy the files to single subfolders. :)
[19:55] <greezmunkey> drizzt_: right on FAT! :)
[19:55] <thedude42> DCGstudios: you have a point there
[19:55] <notmorewindows> drizzt is i cant  to have more applets in the lubuntu bar  lxde like the brightness applet  for xfce or gnome , but lubuntu is the best ubuntu .
[19:55] <Tazer> That's like saying is a dog is more like a monkey than a parrot is
[19:55] <ajs86> I upgraded from 9.10 to ubuntu 10.04  Everything went smooth but for some reason I still have the 9.10 gdm theme.  I reinstalled the gdm and plymouth packages but that did not help. Any suggestions?
[19:55] <DCGstudios> Tazer, i also, run almost every distro on my macbook and works great (slight debugging with touchpad and function keys)
[19:56] <salil> Hi.. I have installed telnetd and restarted /etc/init.d/inetutils-inetd   But remote connections are being refused when "telnet <host>" is used
[19:56] <drizzt_> Tazer, Ubuntu dreams of becoming free MacOSX
[19:56] <serilbye> hello everyone, how can i set active MIDI in my sound card? I got this message from /dev/sndstat "Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
[19:56] <serilbye>  "
[19:56] <Wipster> onetinsoldier, I am indeed I didn't see this problem with previous versions so I guess its the speedup boot
[19:56] <Tazer> That was the aim?
[19:56] <Tazer> Because I never heard of that
[19:56] <Marfi> salil: You'll have to edit the permissions file
[19:56] <brianl> DCGstudios: im going to get off and get on here with the linux computer, ill brb. Thanks
[19:56] <drizzt_> Tazer, I believe, Shuttleworth looks envy for it
[19:56] <salil> Marfi: I removed the "# <off> #" from the /etc/inetd.conf
[19:57] <salil> Marfi: For the entry
[19:57] <Krumar> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 10.04 on an older computer, I'm having trouble setting the screen resolution, i want to get 1440x900 but the best it can do right now is 1024x768, i have a "S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]" can anyone get me pointed in the right direction?
[19:57] <Tazer> I mean, in the easy to use sort of way, I can see that, yes, but OS X is enormously proprietary, no?
[19:57] <Marfi> salil: There is another one that you have to edit. I have to un-comment it whenever I setup an ssh host
[19:57] <dafreak> Sorry to ask again but I'm still having issues connecting to WPA  networks with Ubuntu 10.04 on a Sony Vaio laptop. This is using the ipw2200 drivers. It will connect to a non WPA router just fine, it has issues with WPA.
[19:57] <Marfi> salil: Don't remember the name of it
[19:57] <onetinsoldier> Wipster: i don't know if this will help, but you can take a look here. i think maybe it's recommended that people with the problem listed there use the vesa driver or something --> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004#Intel%208xx%20X%20freezes/crashes
[19:58] <Tazer> Oh, you mean as in themes?
[19:58] <thedude42> Tazer: Apple close-sourced Darwin, but prior to 2004 or 05 it was open source
[19:58] <drizzt_> Tazer, I don't know why 'proprietary' is bad and don't want to
[19:58] <serilbye> hello everyone, how can i set active MIDI in my sound card? I got this message from /dev/sndstat "Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
[19:58] <Wipster> onetinsoldier, ok thanks I will have a look
[19:58] <salil> Marfi: I had done apt-get install telnetd
[19:58] <io_> ./server irceumenide.org
[19:58] <DCGstudios> Tazer, the ease of use in linux is far from OSX's 'click the shiny icon here'.. but also the general security and versatility far surpasses osx if your an end user.
[19:58] <onetinsoldier> Wipster: roger. good luck
[19:58] <drizzt_> serilbye, it means the driver was compiled without MIDI support
[19:58] <jungli> hello
[19:58] <hoglahoo> hello
[19:58] <Tazer> Definitely :U
[19:59] <jungli> how can i change chm filr to pdf
[19:59] <jungli> how can i change chm file to pdf
[19:59] <hoglahoo> I don't know
[19:59] <Gigafide> yeah its the whole button change i think ubuntus turning out to be a mix of windows and mac witch is a  good thing  but its alot better that's its its own os  but still not kid friendly to most noob users  that's why most people are picking the others
[19:59] <Krumar> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 10.04 on an older computer, I'm having trouble setting the screen resolution, i want to get 1440x900 but the best it can do right now is 1024x768, i have a "S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]" can anyone get me pointed in the right direction?
[19:59] <drizzt_> witches are _not_ good thing
[19:59] <BluesKaj> 1patience | jungli
[19:59] <greezmunkey> salil: have a look at this: http://ubuntuguide.net/install-and-enable-telnet-server-in-ubuntu-linux
[19:59] <RyR88> so I updated to the latest ubuntu, and it's very cool, but I can't actually change the status on my accounts to active?
[19:59] <Tazer> But I'm pretty bad at computers still and I can use Ubuntu fine
[19:59] <C-S-B> greezmunkey, any reason you want telnet?
[19:59] <DCGstudios> Gigafide, i learned linux 6 years ago when i was 12. "kid friendly" is a broad term.
, how can i handle it? how to recompile this?
[20:00] <Tazer> It's finally become my main OS like a month ago soo
[20:00] <C-S-B> *you'd
[20:00] <BluesKaj> !patience | jungli
[20:00] <greezmunkey> C-S-B: not me, salil
[20:00] <C-S-B> salil, why do you want telnet?
[20:00] <greezmunkey> C-S-B: I use ssh only
[20:00] <drizzt_> serilbye, i don't know I afraid
[20:00] <notmorewindows> there is some brightness applet to lubuntu lxde ?
[20:00] <thedude42> Krumar: try a different video card, or don't use it for a desktop system
[20:00] <RyR88> Also, how does one switch the side the minimize, and close window buttons are on?
[20:00] <C-S-B> salil, i recomment against it, fairly strongly
[20:00] <brianl> DCGStudios: It still says no proprietary drivers are in use on this system while connected to the internet
[20:00] <bastid_raZor>  RyR88 have you added your accounts to empathy?
[20:00] <greezmunkey> C-S-B: salil agreed
[20:00] <salil> C-S-B: Fuck around.. I know ssh is more secure.. Bored now..
[20:00] <drizzt_> notmorewindows, lubuntu has no applets, it's for manual configuring
[20:01] <greezmunkey> yikes!
[20:01] <drizzt_> !controls > RyR88
[20:01] <C-S-B> salil, everything you want to do with telnet, you can do with ssh and more
[20:01] <Krumar> thedude42, don't have spare video cards for this computer and i just want to get a little extra life out of it
[20:01] <DCGstudios> brianl, okay.. can you go to System > Administration > Update manager, and press 'Check' as well and install anything you need to.
[20:01] <DCGstudios> brianl, then go ahead and check if any pop up.
[20:01] <brianl> DCGstudios: Okay will do, install all the updates?
[20:01] <Tazer> My basic view of the matter is Ubuntu nothing like either Windows OR OS X, it's just it's own thing. It's not particularly better or worse than either, also, because you need different forms of management and techology implementation to advance properly
[20:01] <salil> C-S-B: Can a windows machine connect using "telnet" ?
[20:02] <R0b0t1> Tazer: but, as you said, it is comparable, and it is free.
[20:02] <RyR88> drizzt_, awesome thanks
[20:02] <DCGstudios> brianl, yea all the software upgrades, if your a version pre-10.04 dont do a distribution upgrade, though.
[20:02] <Tazer> Personally I think it matches up perfectly well to either OS, and yes, the free part is a big advantage
 ok then. Thanks for your words. I'll find in google
[20:02] <brianl> I am using 10.04 LTS
[20:03] <Tazer> I was personally drawn to ubuntu as a main OS from the start because of the philosophy behind it
[20:03] <DCGstudios> Tazer, I feel like someone has me by the nuts when i use windows or OSX.
[20:03] <hoglahoo> if someone is willing to help me install alsa, please give me a shout.  I am not finding anything that works on the internets
[20:03] <brianl> DCGstudios: installing updates
[20:03] <Tazer> I haven't reached that stage :P I mostly used Windows up until now and I don't know linux very well(I just learned how to compile from source more or less okay)
[20:04] <thedude42> Krumar: have you looked at your restricted drivers options?
[20:04] <Tazer> Before my macbook i'd never touched any other OS, so I'm really brand new to this stuff
[20:04] <DCGstudios> Tazer, well thankfully for you, youll almost never have to install programs from source nowadays becuase repos have everything INCLUDING dependencys automaticlly.
[20:04] <Gigafide> what i mean by that is most adults and kids want the basic and easy look and feel so they pay 250 for windows 7 or for a mac  what i mean by noob users that more advanced users use ubuntu cause its not a kid toy like windows i mean a kid toy by new users new  to comps and not so good users on comps
[20:04] <notmorewindows> drizzt the  lubuntu bar hasnt a lanucher applet
[20:05] <Tazer> Yeah, I noticed that
[20:05] <Krumar> thedude42, i've been to System -> Admistratoin -> Hardware Drivers   but there is nothing listed in there
[20:05] <drizzt_> Gigafide, Windows is not a 'toy', it's enterprise-level OS
[20:05] <dafreak> The main reason that I run Windows 7 is because I'm also a gamer. Yes I know you can use WINE but the last time I tried that with EVE the crashes without warning weren't pleasant
[20:05] <Tazer> I've had to compile a few things recently like mupen64 and projectM, but while frustrating I enjoyed doing it. compiling can be fun when you manage not to screw up
[20:05] <codyzapp> is there anyway to install a ndiswrapper to a computer with no internet?
[20:05] <DCGstudios> Tazer, the only time i ever compile programs from source generally is if theyre for auditing.. 'apt-get' and synaptic cover 99% of the software youll ever need. and .5% will be covered in .deb files
[20:05] <drizzt_> notmorewindows, I believe it does
[20:06] <thedude42> Krumar: then you may want to google around for s3 and ubuntu.... i haven't used one of those cards in years
[20:06] <dafreak> codzyapp, get the files you need, put them on a usb key & then install?
[20:06] <Tazer> Yeah, the main reason I used Windows up until recently with my Macbook was because of my games
[20:06] <Tazer> But lately I'm not gaming as much and with Steam coming to linux now...
[20:06] <Krumar> thedude42, thank you for the help
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[20:06] <Gigafide> windows is a toy to most linux users and mac im  sorry for saying that
[20:06] <hoglahoo> if someone is willing to help me install alsa, I'd appreciate it.  ubuntu is acting like it can't see my sound card - I'm starting to think I may have intermittent hardware issues
[20:06] <drizzt_> why backup tools for Ubuntu is such sh*t?
[20:06] <thedude42> Krumar: if you're looking for a quick fix, try seeing what 8.04 desktop gets you
[20:07] <Tazer> Well, I'm quickly losing my ties to Windows, which is great :3
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Drizzt_: rsync is awesome :)
[20:07] <codyzapp> dafreak, ah well i dont know what or where to get the files :|
[20:07] <DCGstudios> Tazer, i still keep a 70g partition on my main box running windows 7 for games and nothing else, works very well and if i need to do ANYTHING else i just go on linux for the security and versatility.
[20:07] <SwedeMike> hoglahoo: just ask the question instead.
[20:07] <Krumar> thedude42, i may try that, this pc is just for fun, just would like to see it running the nice new stuff
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Drizzt_: to backup the OS I use partimage
[20:07] <Tazer> I have a 130~gig windows partition
[20:07] <Tazer> but my problem is I'm too lazy to reboot just to play games ;w;
[20:07] <dafreak> codzyapp, i can point you to the files for ndiswrapper but you're also going to need the windows driver files
[20:08] <DCGstudios> Tazer, if your new and trying to make that transition i recommend downloading VirtualBox from synaptic and throwing a virtual windows machine on your linux partition.
[20:08] <MilitantPotato> I upgraded to Intrepid, I have KDE and Gnome installed, when I login to KDE, there's some sort of splash screen that never goes away.  If I log into a gnome session the same splash screen appears but goes away after the desktop has loaded.  How do I stop this splash screen from grabbin the desktop?
[20:08] <moza> Hi, i have a problem. I am trying to enable flash after having upgraded from hardy to lucid, but my firefox is now really really slow. not usable.
[20:08] <Gigafide> yeah once wine goes perfect or good  and we get some  game support no real reason to stay on windows we have i pod and all
[20:08]  * ActionParsnip hasn't had windows for years 
[20:08] <codyzapp> Tazer, i have the files for that, thats no problem.
[20:08] <Tazer> I'm a spontaneous kind of gamer and I like doing lots of things at once so I tend to turn my games on and off at whim
[20:08] <MartyMcFly> if have a freshly installed and updated ubuntu 10.04 netbook remix on an eee900. I can't connect to an WPA2 secured access point. What do i have to do?
[20:08] <notmorewindows> drizzt i use for the brightness  nividia x server settings  , but i need an applet brightness for the lubuntu bar lxde
[20:08] <myrl> wpa ta mpiftekia
[20:08] <drizzt_> Gigafide, wine will never be fine, it's lag back forever
[20:08] <FiReSTaRT> moza: you might be forced to back up your files/settings and do a clean lucid install
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> Gigafide: why rely on wine. Some game devs make native installers, like ID software
[20:09]  * FiReSTaRT only uses Windows for a couple of packages that don't exist on other operating systems (no alternatives, either) and for keeping the crackberry up to date
[20:09] <Tazer> Yeah
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Gigafide: penumbra is compiled for both win and lin
[20:09] <moza> FiReSTaRT, no way to get rid of something specific?
[20:09] <Tazer> I tried setting up a virtualbox system today and just gave up because my install CD decided not to work
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Gigafide: look at the bigger picture :D
[20:09] <DCGstudios> Tazer, more often then not i just do my work on my macbook with linux. i never use all my resources even on a dual core / 2gb ram, even when running virtual machines. i keep my pc sleeping with windows up.
[20:09] <codyzapp> dafreak, i have those files.
[20:10] <Gigafide> i know its good i mean wine when it gets near good its good now i mean when its goes up to being perfect
[20:10] <drizzt_> how to make system sleep after a certain time?
[20:10] <DCGstudios> Tazer, the awsome thing is you dont need an install CD! just an ISO file!
[20:10] <FiReSTaRT> moza: there's always a way but who knows what got screwed up with firefox.. your best bet to get it working properly is just to do a clean install... takes less time than troubleshooting ff
[20:10] <SwedeMike> drizzt_: screensaver/power settings
[20:10] <myrl> martymcfly are you the marty mcfly from bzflag?
[20:10] <Tazer> And an activation code
[20:10] <Tazer> Which is my main problem right now!
[20:10] <basix> hey i'm on lucid lynx server and i want to install an older version of php5 - 5.2.9. Is it available in the repo or do I have to go hunting for it?
[20:10] <JenniferB> hi folks.. Id like the gnome default application switcher.. how can I enable it with compiz ?
[20:10] <drizzt_> which power settings?
[20:10] <JenniferB> I see in the compizConfig settings manager that there is an application switcher.. but its annoying how it works.. because it switches the background window as well... there is just to much going on.. i want the standard alt tab behaviour...
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> Drizzt_: look in power options under system -> admin (a please goes a long way too, and is free)
[20:10] <MartyMcFly> myrl: no
[20:10] <codyzapp> dafreak, point me to them please when you can :)
[20:10] <myrl> martymcfly lol nvm
[20:11] <SwedeMike> drizzt_: system->prefs->power
[20:11] <thedude42> basix: you need to go hunting
[20:11] <drizzt_> I don't have system->admin, i'm on LXDE
[20:11] <moza> FiReSTaRT, will i loose much if i keep my /home? it is in a separate partition. Would it be enough?
[20:11] <KingSeta> Aaaa only 50 minutes left... Please help! I do what you want... http://www.wolfire.com/humble
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Drizt_: menu -> settings -> power (lxde is sweet)
[20:11] <lrcaballero> Hi! everyone, does anyone uses Songbird player? If yes have you had any problems after upgrading to 10.04 LTS with songbird and your m4a files?
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Drizt_: its the config items in the main menu
[20:12] <Gigafide> does any one eles think that apples gonna released some dumb update that's gonna kill our ipod i phone support ?
[20:12] <basix> thedude42, damn. isn't there an archive where i could get all the versions of the same package?
[20:12] <FiReSTaRT> moza: the way i understand it is that you should be ok if you have /home on a separate partition.. unfortunately i don't have experience with installing the os that way because my current run of lucid is the first time i ever created a separate partition for it.. hopefully it should be ok
[20:12] <dafreak> codzyapp you're going to need ndisgtk (http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/net/ndisgtk) and ndiswrapper-common (http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/all/ndiswrapper-common/download)
[20:12] <SwedeMike> basix: no. downgrading versions like that means you'll lose out on security updates etc. fix the code instead.
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Gigafide: I hope they just stop releasing anything
[20:12] <FiReSTaRT> guys, could somebody please confirm my previous statement to moza ?
[20:13] <dafreak> this is presuming that you're running 10.04
[20:13] <notmorewindows> drizzt , yes the lxde has limitations than others desktop
[20:13] <drizzt_> so is there some DE-independent way?
[20:13] <KingSeta> Please, i just need 0.1$ or anybody who buys it for me... what do you want for it?
[20:13] <FiReSTaRT> that a fresh install shouldn't do anything to a separate /home partition
[20:13] <codyzapp> thankyou dafreak and you should really consider typing cody and hitting the tab key. it auto completes a name in irc :)
[20:13] <drizzt_> I need you to shut the fuck up
[20:13] <basix> SwedeMike, this is a VM we're talking about and I"m trying to reproduce a environment that is present in production ( and i have zero control over its configuration )
[20:13] <thedude42> basix: yeah, you can dig through older dists' repositories, but you have to be careful not to accidentally break your system when you try to install a package that may have wierd dependancy issues with your current distro
[20:13] <drizzt_> sorry
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Drizt_: if someone can fire the app and tell. You the process you can launch it yourself
[20:14] <FiReSTaRT> ok i'm off to get cleaned up and do some grocery shopping :)
[20:14] <FiReSTaRT> well groceries might wait a bit :P
[20:14] <drizzt_> ok i'll play with package manager then
[20:14] <dafreak> Anybody want to lend me a hand with my WPA issue on 10.04 LTS?
[20:14] <basix> thedude42, hm okay. thanks.
[20:14] <SwedeMike> basix: the reasons I stated is why there are not older versions in the repository. You could try finding an older version of ubuntu that has what you need, that is probably the easiest way.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> !wpa | dafreak
[20:15] <basix> SwedeMike, okay. thanks!
[20:15] <fatman1683> Hi, I'm having some trouble installing Ubuntu over PXE
[20:15] <bullgard> What is to enter into the text field of the »Indicator Applet Session« 0.3.6?
[20:15] <anothernoob> goodevening #ubuntu
[20:15] <dafreak> Action, already tried what was suggested in the docs
[20:15] <fatman1683> I can get it to load to the installer screen, start installing, and copy two files, after which it goes to a black screen
[20:15] <onetinsoldier> !hi | anothernoob
[20:15] <fatman1683> anyone have an idea?
[20:15] <JenniferB> hi folks.. Id like the gnome default application switcher.. how can I enable it with compiz ?
[20:15] <JenniferB> I see in the compizConfig settings manager that there is an application switcher.. but its annoying how it works.. because it switches the background window as well... there is just to much going on.. i want the standard alt tab behaviour...
[20:16] <spikeb> you can turn off the app switcher and i think it goes back to the old alt-tab thing
[20:17] <notmorewindows> now with lubuntu my ram is on 17% with vista i had 40 per 100 or more
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Spikeb: it might also do what the "move window" one does and enable on its own when you drag stuff
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Notmorewindows: lxde is slick and light
[20:17] <anothernoob> i'm getting an error message pertaining to a block that does not seem to exist on that harddrive. it makes it impossible to boot backtrack, but gives the same error when i try to boot ubuntu from an usb-stick. gparted gives me a warning for sda4, whick apparently is an EFI-partition. what to do?
[20:17] <drizzt_> notmorewindows, because you didn't turn off superfetch
[20:17] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip, agreed
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Notmorewindows: flwm is lighter still but isn't as usable
[20:18] <fatman1683> Anyone know why the installer would go to a black screen after loading the two initial files?
[20:18] <jkoltner> Anyone know if there's a simple terminal emulator (like minicom) in the Unbuntu repositories that will display incoming/outgoing characters in hexadecimal?
[20:18] <brianl> DCGstudios: I have to restart to complete installation, i will be right back
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Jkoltner: xev maybe (if I understand right)
[20:19] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip, what is the lxde 'x' supposed to be?
[20:19] <DCGstudios> brianl, okay sounds good
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> C-s-b; (l)ight (x) (d)esktop (e)nvironemt afaik
[20:19] <jkoltner> Thanks ActionParsnip, I'll check it out
[20:19] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip, no, the actual icon
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> C-s-b: no idea. I think it looks like a mountain or a dead seagul. No idea
[20:20] <C-S-B> lol
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> C-s-b: is it not on the faq on the site?
[20:21] <notmorewindows> actionparsnip, lxde make less noise because with vista my  ventilators worked much , too much
[20:21] <MartyMcFly> anyone can help me with my WPA2 issue?
[20:21] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip, i am on the site, cant see a fag though
[20:21] <dafreak> Lemme guess Marty, you updated to 10.04 and now you can't connect to any WPA enabled network, right?
[20:21] <SwedeMike> jkoltner: don't you just need to know incoming in hex? if you specify what you actually need to do, it will be easier to help you.
[20:22] <MartyMcFly> dafreak: fresh installation
[20:22] <moza> I think i'll give up on flash and sound :( i don't want to reinstall everything.
[20:22] <MartyMcFly> dafreak: but i can't connect to any of our WPA2-APs
[20:22] <dafreak> MartyMcFly: Heh same issue really. Which wireless card do you have?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Moza: you on 64bit?
[20:22] <fatman1683> Can anyone help me with installing Ubuntu over PXE?
[20:22] <moza> no, 32 ActionParsnip
[20:22] <MartyMcFly> dafreak: builtin in the eee900, let me do a lshw...
[20:23] <drizzt_> ActionParsnip, it's the X letter which is touching it's 'toe' with its 'arms'
[20:23] <MartyMcFly> dafreak: AR5001
[20:23] <jkoltner> SwedeMike: The idea is to watch the exact output of a device (an oscilloscope, in particular) to look at, e.g., whether it uses just CR or LF or CR/LF, etc.  It's looking like CuteCom is a winner for this -- I'm downloading it now.  (Despite it needing 20+MB for all those QT libraries! :-) -- I have a default 10.04 Ubuntu install running Gnome, but oh well.)
[20:23] <dafreak> which driver is it using?
[20:23] <drizzt_> because it's so 'flexible'
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Drizzt_: I see, funky
[20:23] <dafreak> MartyMcFly: Which driver is it using?
[20:23] <SwedeMike> fatman1683: https://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[20:24] <MartyMcFly> dafreak: ath5k
[20:24] <jozefk> if I want to install Ubuntu 10.04 from USB but don;;t have an option in BIOS to boot from USB, what's the solution?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Moza: if you run: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[20:24] <Random832> i'm doing updates (i was on beta2) - is it just me, or did the wireless network icon get narrower between beta2 and the current version?
[20:24] <mlistus> jozefk: there is a helper cdrom that can bootstrap to USB
[20:24] <fatman1683> SwedeMike: I've been following a similar guide, the PXE part works but the installation part doesn't, hangs on a black screen after the initial load
[20:24] <SwedeMike> jkoltner: oki, good. otherwise you could probably just dump the text in the terminal program and use hex to watch the output (hopefully it wasnt converted)
[20:24] <mlistus> jozefk: but i dont remember where i saw it
[20:24] <jkoltner> jozefk: Do you have a CD ROM drive on that machine?
[20:25] <jozefk> mlistus, where is that CD or tutorial/manual?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Moza: remove all those packages so you have no flash at all. Then grab the 32bit tar.gz for 10.1 and copy the .so file to your plugins folder
[20:25] <jkoltner> SwedeMike: Yeah, capturing & then using, e.g., hexdump is what I've been doing, I'm just wanting something a little more "interactive"
[20:25] <mlistus> jozefk: if i recall, it was in knoppix in 2006
[20:25] <jozefk> jkoltner, yes there is a CDrom drive. I could start booting from CD but I want to install it from USB
[20:25] <Gozar> How do I enable two 8400GS for 3 monitors in 10.04 with Nouveau?
[20:25] <bullgard> What is to enter into the text field of the »Indicator Applet Session« 0.3.6?
[20:25] <SwedeMike> jkoltner: check, I'll remember cutecom then, I've just been using gtkterm so far, but I never needed to dump the traffic
[20:25] <AbuBadr> hi there
[20:26] <SwedeMike> jkoltner: don't really like minicom myself, never did.
[20:26] <moza> ActionParsnip, i'll paste this somewhere
[20:26] <moza> !paste
[20:26] <AbuBadr> is there a way to control fan speed?
[20:26] <moza> !pastebin
[20:26] <DCGstudios> AbuBadr, get a fan controller is the best way
[20:26] <dafreak> MartyMcFly: Yeah seeing a lot of posts on the ubuntu forums on those cards as well, none have been marked solved yet....
[20:26] <onetinsoldier> AbuBadr: don't know. i only know there is a packaged named 'fancontrol'
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Moza: its how I install flash personally. I don't use the repo way as I have my own setup script to make things nice :)
[20:26] <DCGstudios> AbuBadr, but i think there are some programs that can do it
[20:26] <jkoltner> SwedeMike: minicom just seemed to be what I first stumbled upon a year or so ago -- I do get a bit of nostalgia from it's old Procomm Plus-type interface.  gtkterm does the same thing? -- I've never used it; I'll try it.
[20:26] <brianl> DCGstudios: Now that i have updated and rebooted the task bar at the top right has some black spaces in it where the internet connection icon is supposed to be...
[20:26] <onetinsoldier> !fancontrol | AbuBadr
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Moza: no need, just remove the packages
[20:27] <DCGstudios> brianl, can you see the drivers now?
[20:27] <moza> ok ActionParsnip , i'll try that.
[20:27] <onetinsoldier> we lose ubottu?
[20:27] <onetinsoldier> !info fancontrol
[20:27] <DCGstudios> apparently we did
[20:27] <jkoltner> SwedeMike: Ah, gtkterm of course would have a proper GUI... that's certainly a nice benefit. :-)
[20:27] <onetinsoldier> roger
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> !botsnack
[20:27] <SwedeMike> jkoltner: gtkterm is the one I found that was easy enough to rnu serial under linux with, that supported usb serial port easily.
[20:27] <pete1> hey guys, I've switched to Lucid; how can I tell pulseaudio to mute front speakers but not headphones?
[20:27] <AbuBadr> DCGstudios, where to get that fan controller?
[20:27] <anothernoob> at boot i'm getting an error message pertaining to a block that does not seem to exist on that harddrive. it makes it impossible to boot backtrack, only leading to initramfs, but gives the same error when i try to boot ubuntu from an usb-stick. ubuntu eventually starts however. gparted gives me a warning for sda4, whick apparently is an EFI-partition. what to do?
[20:28] <brianl> DCG: It still says no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Onetinsoldier: won't even do it for a botsnack
[20:28] <onetinsoldier> ActionParsnip: i saw that
[20:28] <Brian2898> can you install ubuntu to USB from ubuntu live cd?
[20:28] <mate> hy
[20:28] <DCGstudios> AbuBadr, I picked up my fan controller at Frys.. Im sure you can get them at a fairly large computer store or online (newegg.com is my recommendation).
[20:28] <SwedeMike> jkoltner: it even does drop-down menus when selecting serial ports, finding ttyUSB0 etc automatically
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Brian2898: totally
[20:28] <DCGstudios> AbuBadr, they run anywhere from 20-50$
[20:28] <Brian2898> What filesystem do you choose when you install to usb
[20:28] <Matr|X> hi evry body i wish for all good health
[20:28] <Brian2898> i dont want journaled
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Brian2898: ext2 will prolong its life
[20:29] <Brian2898> is ext2 journaled
[20:29] <rsk> no
[20:29] <onetinsoldier> ActionParsnip: pretty slow response. but he finally showed up
[20:29] <Jordan_U> Brian2898: no
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Brian2898: no, ext3 is ext2 + journal
[20:29] <Matr|X> i have abig problme now on my ubuntu server http://paste.ubuntu.com/433990/
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Brian2898: the journal will get written to quite a bit
[20:30] <Matr|X> can any body help me with that errors
[20:30] <brianl> DCGstudios: Did you see that?
[20:31] <DCGstudios> brianl, sorry i didnt until just now..
[20:31] <DCGstudios> brianl, can you open a terminal and run 'lspci | grep Network' and post the output here
[20:31] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/433990/
[20:31] <Matr|X> plz
[20:32] <jkoltner> SwedeMike: So when I run gtkterm, it works fine, although it makes the taskbar go a bit crazy, adding/removing its program icon at a very rapid rate.  Weird!
[20:32] <Matr|X> some one have exprince help me with that error massge
[20:32] <SwedeMike> jkoltner: weird, but I haven't tried it under 10.04, only 8.10 - 9.10
[20:32] <brianl> DCG: no output
[20:32] <jkoltner> SwedeMike: Ah, it stopped after I opened and closed its configuration dialog... good enough
[20:32] <SwedeMike> Matr|X: you need to provide more information, nobody can help you with only that.
[20:33] <felon> hmm
[20:33] <leagris> how do I get volume id of a partition ?
[20:33] <SwedeMike> leagris: blkid
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Matr|x: is your pwd the same as the app launched?
[20:33] <leagris> thanks SwedeMike as the fstab mention vol_id but can't find this command
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Leagris: sudo blkid
[20:33] <DCGstudios> brianl, can you open a terminal and run 'lspci | grep 802.11 | grep 802.3' then
[20:34] <MartyMcFly> dafreak: thanks
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Dcgstudios: could use: sudo lshw -C network ,too
[20:34] <brianl> DCG: No output
[20:34] <DCGstudios> ActionParsnip, yea good idea probably more effecient
[20:34] <Matr|X> some one have exprince help me with that error massge
[20:34] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/433990/
[20:34] <AbuBadr> DCGstudios, i need a software to control the fan speed
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> Matr|x: I gave a reply
[20:35] <brianl> DCG: I ran that sudo lshw command, do you want me to paste that? its alot
[20:35] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/433990/    pzl sone one help me with that error massge
[20:35] <DCGstudios> brianl, can you go ahead and paste it in a pastebin
[20:35] <onetinsoldier> !repeat | Matr|X
[20:35] <SwedeMike> AbuBadr: googling for "ubuntu fan speed" gave this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=846480
[20:35] <DCGstudios> !pastebin
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Matr|x: cd into the sipvicious folder then run what you need
[20:36] <Matr|X> i did
[20:36] <onetinsoldier> and?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Matr|x: maybe the pwd is relevant
[20:36] <AbuBadr> SwedeMike, thanks
[20:36] <Matr|X> actionparsnip
[20:36] <Matr|X> and its give me that error
[20:36] <leagris> started a debootstrap into /nfsroot but, now I want to get ride of anything int /nfsroot I get errors when rm -fr /nfsroot because of sys directory inside
[20:36] <theoros> how would i find out the reason my computer instantly lost power (shutdown-style) while using nothing but gedit
[20:37] <theoros> using 10.04, by the way
[20:37] <leagris> should I use unlink for the special sys files created by debbostrap ?
[20:37] <enovativ> how can i log this chat
[20:37] <brianl> DCG: Okay i pasted. http://paste.ubuntu.com/433995/ <-- I think that is the URL
[20:37] <DCGstudios> yea AbuBadr, im really not sure about ubuntu apps for that, but i know lm-sensors has a feature to control some aspects of fans.
[20:37] <Matr|X> ActionParsnip whst is that erros mean brother
[20:37] <moza> ActionParsnip, i tried to remove all the packages following what you told me, but firefox is still slow after that and before reinstalling flash.
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Matr|x: are there any instructions around on how to run it?
[20:37] <DCGstudios> brainl, ill take a look.
[20:38] <brianl> Okay thank you
[20:38] <Matr|X> yes
[20:38] <theoros> i can't find anything in /var/log/syslog about it
[20:38] <Matr|X> i had worked with it so meny time befor and it was working very good
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Moza: firefox with flash is slow
[20:38] <arand> leagris: Presuming it was created with mount --bind, a simple umount should take care of it.
[20:38] <DCGstudios> brainl, what kind of wireless card are you using? or is it a dongle or something?
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Matr|x is there a ppa with it on?
[20:38] <Matr|X> wht a ppa
[20:38] <Matr|X> ?
[20:38] <Matr|X> i dont know ?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Matr|x: do you have the minimum python version to run it?
[20:39] <Tazer> ookay
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | matr|x
[20:39] <brianl> DCG: I am not sure, im using an HP laptop
[20:39] <anothernoob> Having issues originally from backtrack, but present also in Ubuntu. Please take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/433996/
[20:40] <DCGstudios> ActionParsnip, if no wireless card showed up in lshw then is it even going to be able to work?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Moza: try chromium or arora. They are much faster
[20:40] <Matr|X> can i pm u brother
[20:40] <Matr|X> ActionParsnip
[20:40] <bullgard> What is to enter into the text field of the »Indicator Applet Session« 0.3.6?
[20:40] <moza> ActionParsnip, i know, but here i'm trying to run firefox _without_ flash. And there is a difference between the "slow" i had before, and this "so slow that it is unusable" that i have now :)
[20:40] <brianl> DCG: Its a BCM43xx, thats what i had to use for another dist
[20:40] <jkoltner> swedemike: Which version of GTKTerm are you using?  I'm finding the one in Ubuntu's repositories -- 0.99.5 -- seems to have some weird display problems with hex data... but it looks like there are much newer versions on-line.
[20:40] <leagris> arand, it does not appear in mount
[20:41] <SwedeMike> jkoltner: I was using the one that came with 9.10 etc, but I never tried to hexdump with it
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Moza: or maybe the mozilla ppa to get a later build of the same browser
[20:41] <DCGstudios> brianl, im using a bcm4328.. So im familiar with it but i dont see it on your lshw.. can you try to run 'lspci | grep Broadcom'
[20:41] <shamrock> hello
[20:41] <leagris> arand, did umount /nfsroot/sys and now it is ok
[20:41] <jkoltner> SwedeMike: ok, thanks... hmm, apparently I'm wrong about the version, 0.99.5 is the latest on the guy's web site.
[20:42] <brianl> 10:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
[20:42] <arand> leagris: Good :)
[20:42] <awef> Hi!
[20:43] <arand> anothernoob: Have you tried running an fsck?
[20:43] <glick> excuse me does anyone know why my sound keeps on fading to silence when i am listening to something through my headphones?
[20:43] <DCGstudios> brianl, yea its not detecting your wireless card.. generally its as easy as installing the drivers to get bcm43xx's to work.. run 'sudo apt-get update' and check for the drivers again.
[20:43] <Marfi> How do I change the runlevel in 10.04? I want to use runlevel 3, but it seems that there is no /etc/inittab....
[20:43] <glick> then if i listen to another song or something
[20:43] <leagris> arand, I try to bootstrap Lucid for fat diskless clients
[20:43] <glick> it starts normal and then slowly fades to silence again
[20:43] <Matr|X> ok sorry
[20:43] <bastid_raZor> !runlevel | Marfi
[20:43] <anothernoob> arand, yes, on the backtrack ext3. the block that's reffered to in the error is not in that partition however. as a matter of fact, it doesn't seem to be in any partition
[20:44] <Matr|X> wht is that mean TypeError: Non-hexadecimal digit found
[20:44] <anothernoob> arrand, and that fsck did fix the backtrack ext3 partiton
[20:44] <glick> now my sound is totaly gone
[20:44] <glick> it keeps fading to silence
[20:44] <Ganymede> j #google-chrome
[20:44] <brianl> DC: okay i ran that..
[20:44] <glick> why does it do that?
[20:44] <awef> I have a little question, i searched a lot on google but didn't find and answer.  I installed a lot of packages and messed a lot with ubuntu and i wan't to reinstall a fresh version, can i do it with apt-get or dpkg?
[20:44] <Marfi> !Upstart
[20:44] <Ganymede> sorry about that
[20:44] <glick> now i have sound agian but its fading out again
[20:44] <glick> what the hell
[20:45] <DCGstudios> brianl, theres still no drivers in System > Administration > Hardware drivers?
[20:45] <SwedeMike> awef: no, you have to install it from scratch
[20:45] <Marfi> Some things should be left alone.../me sighes at Canonical
[20:45] <brianl> DCG: nope...
[20:45] <Flannel> awef: What sort of messing did you do?  Do you just want to get back to "default" packages installed? or did you make config changes? (user ones? or did you edit things in /etc?)
[20:45] <awef> SwedeMike> and if i only want to delete the packages that don't come with ubuntu by default, is it possible?
[20:45] <brianl> maybe i should reboot again, the top status bar has some big black spots in it like something is wrong with it
[20:46] <awef> yeah exactly
[20:46] <DCGstudios> brianl, okay then lets see if we can just get them from the repository, run 'sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source'    then restart and try
[20:46] <awef> i juste want to get the default packages
[20:46] <SwedeMike> awef: not that I know of.
[20:46] <arand> anothernoob: I'm not really sure then, I guess you could get some more info from palimpsest or smartctl as far as bad blocks etc. goes...
[20:46] <brianl> Is there a gui IRC program that comes with ubuntu? this epic is kinda frustrating :D
[20:46] <DCGstudios> brianl, it can glitch out once in a while, if you right click where the notifications are and press 'remove from panel' then right click the panel and press 'add to panel' then select 'notification area' it should be fixed.
[20:47] <awef> by the way sorry for my english.. i speak french XD
[20:47] <Flannel> brianl: xchat and/or xchat-gnome
[20:47] <DCGstudios> brianl, 'sudo apt-get install xchat'
[20:47] <moza> awef : you can try on #ubuntu-fr
[20:47] <awef> Flannel> I juste wan't to get the default packages that comes with ubuntu, do you know a way?
[20:47] <SwedeMike> brianl: if you want to run cli, then use "irssi" instead of epic
[20:47] <brianl> DCG: Okay it is installing the bcmwl
[20:47] <awef> moza> thanks :)
[20:47] <TonyV> Hey all, I'm having a problem trying to install Ubuntu when I get to the Prepare disk space step. I have two mirrored 1.5 GB data drives and a 128 GB SSD OS drive. It looks like the installer isn't seeing my SSD drive. It shows up in GParted and Disk Utility, though. Anyone have any ideas?
[20:47] <Flannel> awef: Yeah, there's no way that I know of to do it automatically (push this button, sort of thing) but it's certainly doable with a small bit of work.
[20:48] <brianl> DCG: Okay i ran that command, should i reboot now?
[20:48] <anothernoob> arand, the log gives me a block number. could any of those commands give me more info, or thell me why it seems that it isn't a part of any partition? is it normal for ubuntu to dislike EFI-partitions, or could the fault be there? that's the partition closest to the faulty block, and gparted flags it as strange
[20:48] <DCGstudios> brianl, yes, if the installation is finished restart your computer.
[20:48] <awef> Flannel> Ok thanks
[20:49] <brianl> DCG: Okay, ill brb
[20:49] <DCGstudios> brianl, sounds good ill be here.
[20:49] <Evolution> Is there a decent how-to on installing/configuring gdm themes?
[20:49] <TonyV> I pick "Specify partitions manually" and click Forward. On the next screen, I have /dev/mapper/nvidia_dgdiadie, with one 1.5 TB partition showing up (my data partition), but that's all.
[20:49] <Evolution> I can't really seem to find a decent set of instructions via google, and gdmsetup doesn't offer a theme option
[20:49] <Cork[home]> is there a way to prevent wine from adding its programs to the applications menu?
[20:50] <m_tadeu> my laptop just reboots by itself....what can be wrong?
[20:50] <Flannel> awef: What I would do (there's likely other ways to go about this) would be to hop on a liveCD, save the output of dpkg -l, then come back to your install, dpkg -l, diff them, and purge the packages that aren't installed by default (they'll show up in the diff)
[20:50] <bastid_raZor> Cork[home]: edit menu .. and uncheck them. right click on applications > edit menus
[20:50] <thedude42> Evolution: you mean to change the login look-and-feel?
[20:51] <nss> hello
[20:51] <arand> anothernoob: I don't know enough to answer any of that I'm afraid :(  palimsest and smartctl will get the S.M.A.R.T. data for the disk, but I don't know if it'll be of much help in this case...
[20:51] <Evolution> thedude42: yep.
[20:51] <anothernoob> arand, thanks anyway=)
[20:51] <Cork[home]> bastid_raZor: i mean more like preventing them ending up there att all, i use one of my wine profiles to extract windows installers, that a then copy out of wine to use in linux, then clear the profile
[20:51] <HenrikV> is there a python package for resolving prefix/etc-dir/.. given an executable. IE what is the etc path for nginx
[20:51] <awef> Flannel: yeah great idea thank you :)
[20:52] <Cork[home]> bastid_raZor: its getting old removing all the automaticly created application links
[20:52] <Evolution> thedude42: all I'm seeing are "ZOMG HARD" and reports like this -> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23982/
[20:52] <thedude42> anothernoob: sorry I am just looking at your questions.... what tool is indicating you have a bad block, fsck?
[20:53] <Flannel> Evolution: From what I've heard (this was true for Karmic, not sure about Lucid), the new GDM (it was a rewrite) doesn't have support for themes yet
[20:53] <Monotoko> hiya....does anyone know how i can run one line under sudo at startup?
[20:53] <anothernoob> thedude42, that is from the dmesg log
[20:53] <thedude42> anothernoob: what category, kernel, smartctl...?
[20:53] <Jordan_U> Monotoko: What are you trying to accomplish?
[20:54] <Monotoko> Jordan_U my mobile broadband does not work unless i run: "sudo usb_modeswitch" every bootup....i want to make the computer do it automatically
[20:54] <Evolution> Flannel: well crap.
[20:54] <anothernoob> thedude42, i'm sorry, but i don't quite know. how do i find out?
[20:54] <Evolution> that's not at all what I wanted to hear.
[20:55] <TonyV> Hey all, I'm having a problem trying to install Ubuntu when I get to the Prepare disk space step. I have two mirrored 1.5 GB data drives and a 128 GB SSD OS drive. It looks like the installer isn't seeing my SSD drive. It shows up in GParted and Disk Utility, though. Any ideas?
[20:55] <thedude42> anothernoob: the bracketed text in dmesg output, like [kernel] or [kvm]
[20:55] <Jordan_U> Monotoko: Add it to /etc/rc.local , but if you haven't already please file a bug report about the problem you are having.
[20:55] <brianl> DCGstudios, okay i am back
[20:55] <SwedeMike> TonyV: raid bios settings?
[20:56] <thedude42> anothernoob: sorry, i misspoke, the time is in brackets in dmesg output....
[20:56] <DCGstudios> brianl, any luck?
[20:56] <Monotoko> Jordan_U, okay, i know what the problem is too...its detecting my USB stick as a removable disk drive because it has an install partition
[20:56] <thedude42> anothernoob: the first thing after the time in dmesg, before the first :
[20:56] <TonyV> The mirrored drives are set up as RAID 1.  The SSD is set up as a stripe, but only has one disk.
[20:56] <Evolution> okay, how about this question then. is there a method using apt to search for a given file? I know on fedora/rhel boxen you can do this with 'yum provides /your/file/here'
[20:56] <DCGstudios> brianl, youll need to go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers to active it.
[20:56] <Evolution> is there a similar method for apt?
[20:56] <Monotoko> Jordan_U will it run the script as root if i put it in /etc/rc.local ?
[20:56] <anothernoob> thedude42, i'll try finding it
[20:56] <Jordan_U> Evolution: apt-file search
[20:56] <brianl> DCGstudios, I did that and it still says no drivers..weird
[20:56] <Jordan_U> Monotoko: Yes
[20:57] <Evolution> Jordan_U: sexy. thanks.
[20:57] <Monotoko> grand, thank you
[20:57] <Jordan_U> Evolution: You're welcome.
[20:57] <SwedeMike> TonyV: try removing the raid1 drives and set it to ahci in bios, then you'll know if this is causing the problem.
[20:57] <TonyV> I'll give that a try, SwedeMike.
[20:58] <anothernoob> thedude42, is ata1.00 what we're looking for?
[20:58] <arand> Evolution: http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/09/hack-karmics-gdm-login-screen.html Has a few pointers.
[20:58] <Flannel> Evolution: Hmm, that might not be accurate, actually.  `gksudo -u gdm gnome-appearance-properties` should get you something.  See The rest of this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1453456#5
[20:59] <DCGstudios> brianl, really? very very stange. try this 'sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter'
[20:59] <anothernoob> thedude42, that's the first thing after the brackets, but before the :
[20:59] <nss> hi, I have intel audio HD in my hp G62 laptop and i'm not able to hear any sound from speakers i can hear only sound from a headset through the audio output
[20:59] <DCGstudios> brianl, it should take you through a configuration setup to setup your drivers
[21:00] <brianl> DCGstudios, okay it is running
[21:00] <thedude42> anothernoob: yeah, ok, so that's definitely a bad block from the driver.... is this on the disk that has the / file system?
[21:00] <brianl> DCGstudios, Thanks alot i really appreciate the help
[21:00] <DrGrov> Gotta ask...
[21:01] <DCGstudios> brianl, not a problem, generally it never takes this long for bcm43xx drivers in my expierence though lol. usually a snap.
[21:01] <anothernoob> thedude42, well, sda has both my windows file system and my backtrack / file system. windows works with no problem, i can access the backtrack / via ubuntu live usb
[21:01] <DrGrov> I have a keyboard with multimedia keys and all keys work except that I hate that the "sleep" key makes my computer freeze up like it is hibernated. The problem is that I can't get the computer responding anymore after accidentally pressing the "sleep" button.
[21:02] <Monotoko> Jordan_U it does not appear to be running it....
[21:02] <Evolution> Flannel and arand: thanks for the pointers!
[21:02] <Monotoko> i still have to run it manually
[21:02]  * Evolution reads
[21:02] <nss> hi, I have intel audio HD in my hp G62 laptop and i'm not able to hear any sound from speakers i can hear only sound from a headset through the audio output. any idea please?
[21:03] <thedude42> anothernoob: and you said you identified the location of the bad block, or is that what you're trying to figure out so you can fix this issue?
[21:03] <DrGrov> I appreciate some kind of help if I can turn off the key somehow.
[21:03] <Monotoko> Jordan_U ahhh i put sudo...it didnt like it, getting rid of sudo worked
[21:03] <Etu> Hi, I want to disable autorun of gdm, I tried: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[21:03] <drizzt_> DrGrov, even pressing power button on chassis?
[21:03] <Etu> And gdm is still starts up
[21:04] <_fynn> hi.. i activated ip forwarding via sysctl -w net.ipv4.conf.all.forwarding=1.. however, the change isn't permanent. after rebooting there's again 0 in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward.. why is that? sysctl should have changed it permanently, shouldn't it?
[21:04] <thedude42> anothernoob: because local installs of backtrack can be tricky unless you're familiar with the kernel boot process
[21:05] <Testfunc23> hello, I've been renamning my files today with the 'rename' command. but 5 minutes ago something really weird happend, i made a new query and submitted it, but suddenly it says 'unknow option .' same for s r and t. what happend, I'm not giving those options (i tried for instance rename -n 's/.//' *, which gave me the same output), where do those .srt come from?
[21:05] <anothernoob> thedude42, well, the bad blocks location i took from the dmesg log. that block is not in any of my partitions. gparted however, does flag that something strange is going on with the EFI-partition. it doesn't recognize it as efi at all actually
[21:05] <Gintulis> flash is crach on chromium (build 6.0.xxxx)?
[21:05] <anothernoob> thedude42, alse, the efi seems to be closest to the faulty block blockwise
[21:06] <Elwedge> Hi people, totally newbiw here and non techy...needs help
[21:06] <arand> !help | Elwedge
[21:06] <nss> hi, I have intel audio HD in my hp G62 laptop and i'm not able to hear any sound from speakers i can hear sound only from a headset through the audio output. any idea please?
[21:06] <thedude42> anothernoob: what does parted see exactly?
[21:06] <DrGrov> drizzt_, yes it doesn't seem to respond when i press the power button on the chassis. i got a god damn kernel panic after i powered off and restarted. but after a new fresh restart and shutdown later there was no kernel panic visible.
[21:07] <Elwedge> I am unable to open some chat programs in ubuntu and firefox
[21:07] <anothernoob> thedude42: gparted shows me a warning triangle next to sda4, which is recognized as an efi-partiton by both windows and fdisk
[21:08] <Testfunc23> @nss check the output device system - preferences - sound - output
[21:08] <Elwedge> when i get the adobe allow or deny box nothing works when i click on it
[21:08] <Testfunc23> do you have the flash player installed properly, which browser do you use
[21:08] <onetinsoldier> Testfunc23: not sure what's up there. how long, or man times... have you tried this part of your command? 's/.//'
[21:08] <onetinsoldier> many*
[21:08] <Evolution> _fynn: iirc you have to set the changes in /etc/sysctl.conf to make them survive a reboot
[21:09] <Elwedge> firefox and chromium, they both behave the same
[21:09] <Testfunc23> onetinsoldier, the weird thing is it only gives the erros in that particular map
[21:09] <fatman1683> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu over PXE, it gets as far as loading initrd.gz and then blackscreens.  Anyone know what might be causing this?
[21:09] <Elwedge> i think i have flash on properly
[21:09] <Gozar> How do I enable two 8400GS for 3 monitors in 10.04 with Nouveau?
[21:09] <mike_tpa> I have a Matrox G550 vid card, fresh install of Ubuntu.  Internet says that I need to modify Xorg.conf to make the DVI output work.  I ran Xorg - config and it generated a file named Xorg.conf.new in the wrong directory (home/myname).  Do I rename as Xorg.conf and put it in the /etc/X11 directory to make it work?
[21:09] <DrGrov> drizzt_, any suggestions?
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[21:10] <Testfunc23> Elwedge, try a site that uses flash and see if it works
[21:10] <twoeightone> Anyone have experience with Intel 945 video chipset?
[21:10] <Elwedge> i can watch vids and stuff on like youtube etc
[21:10] <rsk> twoeightone ye
[21:11] <onetinsoldier> Testfunc23: roger... i don't know. thinking on it, but don't know that i'll come up with anything
[21:11] <Elwedge> do you have an example please
[21:11] <twoeightone> rsk:  have you gotten to work properly?
[21:11] <DCGstudios> Gozar, i know you can do 2 moniters.. im not sure about 3..
[21:11] <_fynn> Evolution, thanks.. in arch it is permanent without adding it to a config, so i thought it would be the same for ubuntu
[21:11] <Testfunc23> onetinsoldier, you dont have any idea why a command would behave differently in a particular map or how you can reset the default ?
[21:11] <jozefk> if I just create a start up disk from system > administration > startup disk creator, can I use that USB for installing ubuntu 10.4?
[21:11] <onetinsoldier> Testfunc23: what exactly do you mean by 'map'?
[21:12] <Evolution> _fynn: no idea. I'm new to ubuntu myself. RHEL and other systems require you to update sysctl.conf.
[21:12] <Elwedge> i have the latest version of flash installed
[21:12] <Gozar> DCGstudios: Yeah, I have 2 monitors right now, but the third one, on the other 8400GS won't turn on. It works somewhat with the proprietary blobs, but I'd prefer without them. And the Nouveau page says it should work..
[21:12] <bastid_raZor> jozefk: yes
[21:12] <nss_> yes i did and i found two devices i tried to switch between them. with one i can hear sound from audio port and the second i have no sound when i switch to it i have analog stereo output and digital stereo (HDMI) output
[21:12] <onetinsoldier> Testfunc23: do you mean parameters?
[21:12] <Testfunc23> onetinsoldier, in /media/MY\ Book/Movies it doesnt work, in al other directories it does
[21:12] <jozefk> bastid_raZor, in case I can boot from USB it will work?
[21:13] <Testfunc23> sorry about the map its bad translation from dutch :s
[21:13] <Elwedge> Some websites, i cant even use the scroll bar, they just lock up
[21:13] <onetinsoldier> Testfunc23: ahh, ok. i see
[21:13] <DCGstudios> Gozar, can you define 'somewhat'?
[21:13] <cbill> Hey, trying to make a dvd with devede from .mkv file. The file has english/spanish subs, i was hoeing to burn without subs, is this possible?
[21:13] <bastid_raZor> jozefk: you need the ubuntu iso to create the startup disk which is the installer
[21:13] <Testfunc23> Elwedge, example ?
[21:13] <jozefk> bastid_raZor, I have the iso
[21:13] <bastid_raZor> jozefk: and yes if your box will boot from USB you can install from the USB
[21:14] <Gozar> DCGstudios: Well, it's fibbly. I get it to display but sometimes the mouse won't get over to the other screen (with Xinerama). And sometimes it works..
[21:14] <Elwedge> they are just chat room sites and when i click on a name to chat or open cam they lock
[21:14] <Elwedge> if i try to open cam, i get the adobe box and that locks also
[21:14] <jozefk> bastid_raZor, great. I think I can start that booting from USB with plop or something :) so that's the solution. what file system I need to have on USB? ext4 will do?
[21:15] <Testfunc23> which version of flash did you install ?
[21:15] <Elwedge> i believe i have the 10.04.2 or something
[21:15] <bastid_raZor> jozefk: let the startup disk application format the USB stick  .. and i think it uses fat32/16 .. not sure which
[21:15] <Kentrel> How do I do a binary compare every file in a directory to each other in order to find duplicates?
[21:15] <guldan> help
[21:16] <onetinsoldier> Testfunc23: sorry, but i don't know. keep asking the channel. someone else might, and people are coming and going all the time ;-)
[21:16] <DCGstudios> Gozar, ahh unfortunatly i dont have any expierence with Xinerama... iv gotten 2 running on multiple nVidia cards without a problem but not a third. mabey someone else might have more experience with the problem.
[21:16] <jozefk> bastid_raZor, ah OK even better. it will do formating instead of me
[21:16] <greezmunkey_Zzz> Kentrel: man the diff command
[21:16] <Testfunc23> Elwedge, you tried reverting to an older or newer version ? Did you google to see if there where people with similar problems?
[21:17] <onetinsoldier> Kentrel: maybe this will help... fdupes
[21:17] <Gozar> DCGstudios: Yeah, but I prefer not to use the proprietary blobs at all. I would like to get Nouveau to work, and according to their status  matrix then Multicard is supported for these cards.
[21:17] <Elwedge> Anyone had a problem with Adobe allow or deny box locking things up
[21:17] <onetinsoldier> !info fdupes | Kentrel
[21:17] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: nice - didn't know about that one!
[21:17] <onetinsoldier> bot hasn't been working too well lately :-/
[21:18] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: :-)
[21:18] <Elwedge> I can't find anything on google
[21:18] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: may be because I don't have it installed...
[21:19] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: roger. it's not installed by default
[21:19] <anothernoob> thedude42: you still there?
[21:19] <Kentrel> onetinsoldier, thanks!
[21:19] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: googling that now, thanks.
[21:19] <onetinsoldier> Kentrel, greezmunkey: you're welcome. cheers :-)
[21:20] <Testfunc23> onetinsoldier, i found my problem, apparently i had the file -.srt in my dir, which caused the program to fail
[21:20] <Testfunc23> should probably file a bug report
[21:20] <nss> hello
[21:20] <onetinsoldier> Testfunc23: oh.. roger. well, i'm glad you figured it out! :)
[21:21] <Testfunc23> onetinsoldier, so am i :D
[21:21] <twoeightone> anyone have experience with the Intel 945GM video driver?
[21:21] <onetinsoldier> Testfunc23: :-)
[21:23] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: nice, cp/reanmed a file, fdupes found it instantly. Pretty handy.
[21:23] <lengend> hello, I am having a problem (a huge one). I bought more ram for my laptop earlier today and I turned off my laptop to insert the ram and stuff, but when I tried to boot ubuntu I get the GNU Grub 1.97 Beta4 menu. I tried selecting the 2.6-31-21 or whatever the numbers is and ubuntu won't boot at all, even in recovery. When I press C, it says I have "No Kernel Loaded"
[21:23] <c1970> salve ragazzi
[21:23] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: cool, cheers :-)
[21:23] <c1970> hello boys
[21:23] <winXPuser> hi
[21:23] <onetinsoldier> howdy
[21:24] <Testfunc23> lengend, you should make a live CD and go edit your grub, probably some links are broken
[21:24] <azm> Hi. I nstalled steam thru wine and when I run it I can see the windo
[21:24] <azm> *window
[21:24] <vangelis> I have ubuntu 10.04, 64 bit and firefox 3.6.3. When I try to use zotero I get the message: "Firefox could not load the component required to communicate with your word processor. Please ensure that the appropriate Firefox extension is installed and try again." Any ideas anyone?
[21:24] <azm> I have effects off
[21:25] <winXPuser> vangelis, yes, look into tools addons extensions
[21:25] <Monotoko> if i extract a 4GB dd onto a 250GB external hd what will happen? will it just fill up the first 4GB?
[21:25] <lengend> But what am I going to do with my files on my computer?
[21:25] <Testfunc23> vangelis is zotero for 64 computers ? did you get the right one ?
[21:25] <winXPuser> vangelis, search for anything zotero-related in the list
[21:25] <azm> winXPuser, http://www.google.cz/search?hl=cs&source=hp&q=%22Firefox+could+not+load+the+component+required+to+communicate+with+your+word+processor.+Please+ensure+that+the+appropriate+Firefox+extension+is+installed+and+try+again.%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
[21:26] <azm> vangelis
[21:26] <winXPuser> azm: what are you linking me to it for?
[21:26] <winXPuser> !google > azm
[21:26] <greezmunkey> azm: now there's a link :)
[21:26] <azm> winXPuser, sry, can you help?
[21:26] <Testfunc23> lengend, the problem is that the little program that starts your computer and points to which operating system should be started might be broken, it doesnt know where to locate your kernels
[21:26] <Monotoko> if i extract a 4GB dd onto a 250GB external hd what will happen? will it just fill up the first 4GB??
[21:26] <CosmiChaos> I installed kernel 2.6.31-10-rt via LiveCD, that one kernel boots, but it quickly freezes the desktop and all input device after login
[21:26] <Testfunc23> lengend, if you fix that your computer should work as normal. There is quite a lot of research on that trhough google
[21:27] <vangelis> winXPuser. yes I have done that. didn't help
[21:27] <azm> winXPuser, but I linked answer in this case.
[21:27] <vangelis> Testfunc23. as far as I know there's only one version of zoter
[21:27]  * trelane occasionally just loses all sound in 10.4.  Sometimes restarting pulse will solve this, but generally not.  The audio is an intel hdaudio bus chip
[21:27] <SwedeMike> Monotoko: depends on what filesystem you're running, but generally it's not that easy.
[21:27] <winXPuser> vangelis, nothing zotero related in the extensions list?
[21:27] <TonyV> Hey all, I'm still having trouble installing Ubuntu. I have a 128 GB SSD. In GParted and Disk Utility, the drive shows up fine. But when I run install and get to page 4 (Prepare partitions), it simply doesn't show up.
[21:28] <TonyV> I'm pretty much dead in the install process.
[21:28] <lengend> Ubuntu is the only OS I use, it was running perfectly fine and I have 2.6.31-14 till 21 on my list, of which none work...
[21:28] <greezmunkey> TonyV: SSD?
[21:28] <TonyV> Solid State Drive.
[21:28] <TonyV> It's a Corsair Nova 128 GB.
[21:28] <vangelis> winXPuser. well there's the zotero add on and the open office integration one
[21:28] <robertzaccour> in chromium how do i open in incognito window by default?
[21:28] <azm> CANT SEE WINDOW !!11!!
[21:28] <azm> HALP
[21:28] <Testfunc23> vangelis, do you have the 64 bit firefox?
[21:28] <rsk> OPEN EYSS!!
[21:28] <azm> HEH
[21:29] <winXPuser> !caps
[21:29] <azm> does not help in my case
[21:29] <azm> so I installed steam thru wine
[21:29] <azm> it runs
[21:29] <bastid_raZor> wen trying to create a startup disk in 10.04 i do not get the option to select 'when starting up from disk documents and settings will be' .. both options are greyed out?
[21:29] <SwedeMike> TonyV: did you set bios to ahci??
[21:29] <azm> as icon
[21:29] <azm> but no window ??
[21:29] <rsk> azm read the appDB entry
[21:29] <vangelis> Testfunc23. I think so: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100423 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.3
[21:29] <azm> fuuuuu
[21:29] <FloodBot4> azm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:29] <winXPuser> vangelis: I see, what's the zotero addon version and can you try to disable it, restart, enable it and see what happens?
[21:29] <TonyV> I went into the BIOS and into the RAID utility, and I see no option for AHCI.
[21:29] <azm> rks k, gonna have a look
[21:30] <Julian7> Hello, does anybody know, how to hack a facebook game? http://de.cdn.elex-tech.us/static/swf2_2/static/v0515/facebook_de.swf?11
[21:30] <vangelis> winXPuser. oooh I did that. more than a few times
[21:30] <Roasted> I thought rhythmbox could edit ID tags on songs???????????????
[21:30] <winXPuser> vangelis: it's version?
[21:30] <azm> Roasted, one question mark is enaugh
[21:30] <azm> !!!!
[21:30] <Roasted> azm, ????????????????????????????
[21:30] <robertzaccour> in chromium how do i open in incognito window by default?
[21:31]  * trelane occasionally just loses all sound in 10.4.  Sometimes restarting pulse will solve this, but generally not.  The audio is an intel hdaudio bus chip, no debug output of use in /var/log or dmesg.  Where else can I look to solve my audio problems?
[21:31] <vangelis> winXPuser. 2.0.2 for zotero and 3.0a7 for the integration extension
[21:31] <Roasted> azm, do you know the answer??????????????? !!!!!!!!!!!
[21:31] <Flannel> Roasted, azm: please stop that.
[21:31] <CosmiChaos> I installed kernel 2.6.31-10-rt via LiveCD, that one kernel boots, but it quickly freezes the desktop and all input device after login
[21:31] <azm> Roasted, rhytmbox does not like you
[21:31] <TonyV> Well, dammit, and then I got disconnected for a minute.  I missed everything after I said that I couldn't find any AHCI setting in my BIOS or RAID settings.
[21:31] <azm> ok sry
[21:31] <Roasted> Flannel, lol????
[21:31] <winXPuser> vangelis: do you have Java in tools addons *plugins*?
[21:31] <winXPuser> vangelis: and is it enabled?
[21:31] <vangelis> winXPuser. yessss :)
[21:31] <PhotoJim> anyone having issues with weird pauses?  amd64 lucid, i7 quad-core CPU.  problem just started a couple of days ago.  system load is not the issue, happens even when doing nothing.
[21:31] <Roasted> wow. really? nice!
[21:31] <winXPuser> vangelis: hmm...
[21:31] <Roasted> thanks flannel
[21:32] <lengend> Is there any way to load a kernel without a live cd?
[21:32] <winXPuser> I dont' think so
[21:32] <rsk> lengend it works with a harddrive also
[21:32] <TonyV> So about this SSD...  I'm running the live CD right now.  I've got two windows, GParted and Install.  I'm looking it it now on GParted. /dev/sda, 119.24 GB. In the install window, though, there are zero drives listed.
[21:32] <robertzaccour> in chromium how do i open in incognito window by default?
[21:32] <pcgeek32147> i need help how do i get 10.04 to see my monitter
[21:33] <nss> Testfunc23 should i report a bug in alsa package?
[21:33] <winXPuser> pcgeek32147: your specs?
[21:33] <Testfunc23> nss why ?
[21:33] <bastid_raZor> interesting.. if i start usb-creator-gtk with gksudo i get the options.
[21:33] <TonyV> My SATA adapter is an nVidia MCP55 SATA Controller.
[21:33] <Roasted> So I'll ask my question again - I thought Rhythmbox was supposed to let you edit ID tags??
[21:33] <robertzaccour> in chromium how do i open in incognito window by default?
[21:33] <fatman1683> Hi, anyone ever installed Ubuntu over PXE?
[21:33] <lengend> rsk, how would I do that? I can't even boot into ubuntu
[21:33] <nss> i'm not able to hear sound only through sound ports
[21:33] <pcgeek32147> pm me
[21:33] <Roasted> At least, it does on regular songs - but I have my sandisk mp3 player in and it wont let me edit any of those tags.
[21:33] <nss> speakers doesn't work
[21:34] <jpds> !msg > pcgeek32147
[21:34] <Testfunc23> nss you checked that you have the right output ports selected for the application you are using?
[21:35] <syme> in 10.04, I can't find my sound preferences... System>Preferences>Sound is missing... what can I do to restore it?
[21:35] <robertzaccour> pcgeek32147, is it plugged in?
[21:35] <[fade]> do you have sound working?
[21:35] <pcgeek32147> yes
[21:35] <Guest1895> Zotero problem: Tools→Add-ons→Extensions→Zotero OpenOffice Integration→Preferences and click “Reinstall OpenOffice components”.
[21:35] <Guest1895> whoever had it
[21:35] <syme> fade, yes it's working, but I can't see the preferences
[21:36] <Testfunc23> syme, right click on system - edit menus, scroll down, - preferences - make sure sound is selected
[21:36] <bastid_raZor> syme: can you run it from a terminal? gnome-volume-control
[21:36] <syme> testfunc23, sound doesn't show up as something that can be enabled
[21:36] <[fade]> syme its marked as Multimedia
[21:36] <TonyV> So, any ideas?  I'm at a dead standstill.  Installer doesn't see any drives, although GParted is showing me my 128 GB SSD fine.  I even have it partitioned, ready to install, but apparently I can't.  :(
[21:36] <nss> i have no sound in all applications even the logging sound and it's happening from the first time i installed lucid i bought the laptop with a windows 7 and speakers were working and i installed lucid just after
[21:36] <azm> rks seems like its not in db. When I maximize the window from panel I can see in desk view on right corner but no window in real
[21:37] <[fade]> syme under computer administration sorting, you will see multimedia
[21:37] <Testfunc23> nss, you could try a different sound server
[21:37] <azm> the issue is not in app I would say
[21:37] <syme> fade, no media either
[21:37] <Testfunc23> also a possibilty: the sound is muted
[21:37] <[fade]> syme can you send me a screenshot?
[21:37] <syme> fade, of the things I can enable?
[21:38] <Testfunc23> syme, you tried running the cl approach [fade] suggested ?
[21:38] <TonyV> And now, I have the partition created to hold my root filesystem mounted.  There's nothing wrong with the drive, and Ubuntu seems to recognize it fine, but the installer simply doesn't see it.
[21:38] <SwedeMike> TonyV: try moving it to a different controller, what motherboard do you have? what hw is this?
[21:38] <nss> the sound is not muted do u mean by a sound server smth other thann alsa?
[21:38] <TonyV> It's an Asus P5N-T Deluxe.
[21:38] <Testfunc23> yes nss
[21:38] <[fade]> syme in kde search bar, type sound, it should show multimedia settings, same as the one in system settings
[21:38] <nss> i installed lucid from an alternate cd
[21:38] <robertzaccour> i just figured it out, thanks for nothin lol
[21:38] <nss> it was the candidate release
[21:38] <robertzaccour> anyone wanna know how i did it?
[21:38] <brianl> DCGstudios, sorry my comcast went out for some reason..but i did the last step you told me.
[21:38] <Testfunc23> get the full normal version
[21:38] <anothernoob> guys, is the EFI in the asus eee just empty space, or is some firmware stuck in there?
[21:38] <nss> then i upgraded to the stable one and i'm using native drivers
[21:39] <syme> fade, I don't have kde
[21:39] <TonyV> Here's the specs page on my motherboard: http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=64sh5AD8oYUq7Cp3&content=specifications
[21:39] <Mrokii> hello. After the latest restart, my Ubuntu 10.04 didn't start up, but I was put into some kind of console with a "grub"-prompt. Can anybody explain why this happens?
[21:39] <Testfunc23> syme, youre using gnome right ?
[21:39] <DCGstudios> brianl, can you see the wireless interface?
[21:39] <brianl> DCGstudios, i really appreciate you helping me by the way
[21:39] <nss> yes gnome
[21:39] <SwedeMike> TonyV: well, if you have different controllers in there, try moving it
[21:39] <TonyV> I've got it plugged into one of the 6 SATA 3 Gb/s ports on the nVidia MediaShield RAID controler.
[21:39] <Testfunc23> you tried reinstalling alsa? have you been to the alsa specific channel, they tend to know more
[21:39]  * moza found that the source of all problems with flash/firefox/sound was pulseaudio.
[21:39] <syme> testfunc23, yes
[21:40] <brianl> DCGstudios, i did the search for the drivers and it still says no...was i supposed to reboot after the last step?
[21:40] <moza> I removed it and now everything works back as well as before :)
[21:40] <Bizzeh> hey, i tried the gconf-edit trick to move the window buttons back to the right where they belong, but it doesnt seem to work, is there something im missing?
[21:40] <moza> just sharing that with everybody :)
[21:40] <nss> what's their IRC?
[21:40] <SwedeMike> TonyV: and you should go into the normal bios, this setting isn't inthe raid bios if it's connected to the onboard channels
[21:40] <Jimmio> Hey all! I ran an application through wine and it changed the gamma setting. How can I change it back to normal without rebooting?
[21:40] <Typh> Nautilus gets REALLY laggy for me on and off. I'm not sure I see any pattern, but sometimes it's snappy, other times unusable.
[21:41] <gunther44> should there be a file called [ in /usr/bin ?
[21:41] <DCGstudios> brianl, after you ran 'sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter' you should reboot and check for the interface, if its not there then check the drivers in the menu that i told you earlier.
[21:41] <dbum> Bizzeh: I think that most of the themes still have the buttons on the right side
[21:41] <TonyV> It is connected to the onboard channel.
[21:41] <brianl> Okay i am going to reboot now
[21:41] <gunther44> TonyV: talking to me?
[21:41] <Testfunc23> nss try /j #alsa
[21:41] <SwedeMike> TonyV: then you should be able to find ahci in the normal bios settings
[21:41] <nss> ok i'll ask them thank u so much
[21:41] <TonyV> gunter44: I don't think so, I was talking to SwedeMike.
[21:41] <Testfunc23> np
[21:42] <Bizzeh> dbum, default theme, in the betas i could alter /apps/metacity/general/button_layout to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" and it would put them where they belong
[21:42] <SwedeMike> TonyV: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20090216110801877&board_id=1&model=P5N-T+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
[21:43] <pcgeek32147> monitter says unknown i need help
[21:43] <CosmiChaos> IM FED UP! i rip the disk out of that case, connect it with my external case, safe the data and damn i never install ubuntu again
[21:43] <CosmiChaos> cya
[21:43] <tkg> hi. I have a macbook 1.2 and no apple disks.  My hard disk broke and I have a new one.  I want only ubuntu and after booting from the cd and installing ubuntu I get a black screen after loging on.  Please help or point me to some online solution for this.
[21:43] <TonyV> SwedeMike: I went through every setting, and I saw nothing that referred to AHCI or to anything that sounded remotely like Advanced Host Controller Interface.
[21:43] <brianl> DCGstudios, under network connections, i do not see any wireless networks... i will run the driver search again
[21:44] <SwedeMike> TonyV: the title is usually "ide mode" or something like that...
[21:44] <SwedeMike> TonyV: usually is set to "legacy", "raid" or "ahci"
[21:44] <brianl> DCGstudios, still says no drivers..
[21:44] <DCGstudios> brianl, okay... did you successfully complete that configuration that you ran?
[21:44] <brianl> yes
[21:44] <Agu10> hi
[21:44] <dbum> Bizzeh: humm... well I just moved maximize to the left and it changed around the order of my buttons.....(using gconf)  are you saying it's not working for you?
[21:45] <TonyV> SwedeMike: I'll go look again.  I'm terribly confused, but I've got time today.  :)
[21:45] <TonyV> SwedeMike: I'll have to drop off again to get into the BIOS.  I should get my laptop out...
[21:45] <Bizzeh> dbum, ive just changed the key, rebooted, nothing
[21:45] <SwedeMike> TonyV: that's probably easier.
[21:45] <Agu10> my monitor resolution is stuck on 1280x720, while my monitor is 1920x1200. how can I fix that?
[21:46] <dbum> Bizzeh: did you make sure there was a comma between each one and a colon at the end?
[21:46] <Agu10> I only have lower resolutions on the monitor preferences window
[21:46] <pcgeek32147> i need help how do i get 10.04 to see my monitter
[21:46] <dbum> Bizzeh: no spaces
[21:46] <SwedeMike> Agu10: what graphics hw do you have?
[21:46] <gunther44> should i remove this file that's called [ in /usr/bin?
[21:46] <Agu10> I press "Detect Monitors" with no success
[21:46] <gunther44> i don't recall it being there before
[21:47] <Agu10> SwedeMike: I have a gtx 260
[21:47] <SwedeMike> Agu10: and what drivers are you using?
[21:47] <DCGstudios> brainl, run 'sudo lshw -C Network -short | grep 802.11'  post the output
[21:47] <Agu10> but I also run this ubuntu in an integrated intel gpu
[21:47] <Agu10> which had a lower res monitor
[21:47] <Agu10> SwedeMike: the included ones
[21:47] <bastid_raZor> gunther44: it is on my machine also.. 10.04
[21:47] <brianl> DCGstudios, no output
[21:47] <dbum> Bizzeh: what order do you want them in.... I'll see if it works on my machine
[21:47] <SwedeMike> Agu10: the included nvidia proprietary drivers, or noveau? and is this 10.04 ?
[21:47] <Agu10> SwedeMike: but I had the right resolution before, so I don't see why it wouldn't find it now
[21:48] <Bizzeh> ive used menu:minimize,maximize,spacer,close
[21:48] <gunther44> bastid_raZor: ah ok, good to know thanks. but running it doesn't do anything though
[21:48] <sebsebseb> Hi
[21:48] <Agu10> SwedeMike: yes, it's 10.04. I tried installing nvidia drivers, but I got some errors, so I think I still have the other ones
[21:48] <bastid_raZor> gunther44: man [
[21:49] <pcgeek32147> i need help how do i get 10.04 to see my tv as monitor via hdmi
[21:49] <brianl> DCGstudios, im confused because it worked with opensuse, so i figured it would work with ubuntu
[21:49] <gunther44> bastid_raZor: ahh thanks
[21:49] <bastid_raZor> gunther44: that is what i do if i see a command and don't know what it does.
[21:49] <sebsebseb> brianl: What worked with Opensuse?  Just joined here
[21:49] <gunther44> bastid_raZor: good advice, thanks
[21:49] <DCGstudios> biranl, theres no reason it shouldnt have worked out of the box with a simple Broadcom STA driver installation in that menu i showed you.
[21:49] <brianl> sebner, my wireless internet
[21:49] <sebsebseb> brianl: ah right yeah
[21:50] <sebsebseb> brianl: what sometimes happens is this,  wireless won't just work with Ubuntu, but it does with other distro's
[21:50] <pcgeek32147> i need help how do i get 10.04 to see my tv as monitor via hdmi
[21:50] <brianl> I like this dist... i would rather use it then OpenSUSE.
[21:50] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb, mabey you can help me out or something but hes running a bcm43xx and he has no drivers in his menu, and lshw isnt detecting the card.
[21:50] <MaXiMuS5> Help...anyone know how i can view the commands being issued by a GUI...i.e. if the gui does something, I want to know the command it performed to I can do it too
[21:51] <ryanrk> So what's the best VM for windows that great for Ubuntu that supports multiple monitors?  VMware doesn't have 3d support for linux.  Virtualbox works well but doesn't support multiple monitors
[21:51] <sebsebseb> !broadcom | brianl DCGstudios
[21:51] <dbum>  Bizzeh       menu,minimize,maximize,spacer,close:       mine worked fine with it like this....... ( a little different than yours) try copy and paste
[21:51] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb, iv tryed to install it via repo's and he hasnt had any successs
[21:51] <DCGstudios> lol sebsebseb thanks but i dont need the wiki
[21:51] <pcgeek32147> i need help how do i get 10.04 to see my tv as monitor via hdmi
[21:51] <momo_> how do i open rar files?
[21:51] <sebsebseb> DCGstudios: I did that @ both of you
[21:52] <sebsebseb> !rar | momo_
[21:52] <Bizzeh> dbum, exactly the same.. no change at all
[21:52] <Testfunc23> momo_, unrar e file.rar
[21:52] <MaXiMuS5> Help...anyone know how i can view the commands being issued by a GUI...i.e. if the gui does something, I want to know the command it performed to I can do it too
[21:52] <sebsebseb> momo_: or do 7-zip  Linux command line version ,or graphical  Windows version in Wine
[21:52] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb, well iv directed him over those exact instructions... becuase iv done this multiple times but not with this much failure.
[21:52] <brianl> mine is BCM5787
[21:52] <Agu10> does anyone know how to get my screen to the right resolution? I only have lower resolutions to choose from in the "Monitor Preferences". I'm using a gtx260 without nvidia drivers
[21:52] <pcgeek32147> i need help how do i get 10.04 to see my tv as monitor via hdmi
[21:52] <tkg> New hard disk, live cd works, install completes fine, booting from fresh install works. up untill just after entering password on login screen, then screen is black.  Is this a mac issue which I should seek help elsewhere or a general issue I can find with help here?
[21:52] <SwedeMike> MaXiMuS5: don't repeat yourself every 2 minutes.
[21:52] <momo_> thank you all
[21:52] <Testfunc23> ubottu, run the gui from terminal and save the output to a file
[21:52] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb, hes done all the packages and configurations, that was obviously the first thing that came to mind.
[21:53] <Bizzeh> dbum, just realised what i was doing
[21:53] <pcgeek32147> i need help how do i get 10.04 to see my tv as monitor via hdmi
[21:53] <Bizzeh> sudo gconf-editor...
[21:53] <dbum> Bizzeh, hummm  I didn't even have to do anything afterward when I clicked on a selection it automatically updated.........OH GOOD!
[21:53] <Bizzeh> i was changing root
[21:53] <Testfunc23> MaXiMuS5,  run the gui from terminal and save the output to a file
[21:53] <killasmurf86> hello! I can't run VirtualBox with AMD-V enable, because it's used by KVM, virtualbox says to recompile kernel, Is there no other way to fix this?
[21:53] <GeekSquid> MaXiMuS5: run the program in a terminal .. allows for debuggung
[21:53] <dbum> Bizzeh:.... ha.... been there done that
[21:53] <SwedeMike> pcgeek32147: don't repeat yourself every minute, the reason you're not getting a response is because you're not providing enough information.
[21:53] <MaXiMuS5> Cool thanks...i'll give it a try
[21:54] <abstrakt> is there any such thing as a "files and settings transfer wizard" for moving from 9.10 to 10.04
[21:54] <abstrakt> e.g. is it safe to just tarball my home dir and then unpack it?
[21:54] <syme> what do I do to fix a "Could not download all repository indexes" error when trying to update?
[21:54] <sebsebseb> brianl: Well I know of two distros' that aren't OpenSuse :)  and where for one of them your wireless will probably just work, but also the other one
[21:54] <solid_liq> abstrakt, that should be fine
[21:54] <abstrakt> will that work? will that restore my gnome panels and such?
[21:54] <abstrakt> solid_liq, what if versions are different?
[21:54] <SwedeMike> abstrakt: yes, it's safe to just file backup your /home
[21:54] <brianl> DCGstudios, it says if i am unable to use the b43 kernel driver or the b43/STA hybrid driver, i will need to go for ndiswrapper
[21:54] <momo_> i got what i need thanks!
[21:54] <solid_liq> abstrakt, all your settings for your desktop are stored under your home directory
[21:54] <abstrakt> solid_liq, will that also restore my panel positions and icons and stuff
[21:54] <sebsebseb> brianl: I mean probably the other one as well, when it comes to just working
[21:54] <brianl> and it will allow me to use the microsoft windows drivers for my card
[21:54] <abstrakt> ok
[21:55] <sebsebseb> brianl: Ndiswrapper hrm
[21:55] <DCGstudios> brianl, i never reccommend ndiswrapper to anyone
[21:55] <solid_liq> abstrakt, the version thing is something that has always annoyed me though...  someone needs to come up with a good migration solution for that someday
[21:55] <sebsebseb> brianl: you said it worked fine in OpenSuse though natively
[21:55] <TonyV> SwedeMike: Okay, in BIOS now and on my laptop in chat.  :)
[21:55] <GeekSquid> abstrakt: that would work, make sure to get all hidden f/f ... re:taring home
[21:55] <Roasted> Is there an audio tag tool better than the one called simply "audio tag tool." Im trying to mass rename some tags and it keeps saying file name does not match expected format. I REFUSE to do 100 gig of music manually, 1 at a time.
[21:55] <brianl> yeah i just had to get the drivers, it automatically did that with some command, i forgot
[21:55] <DCGstudios> brainl, windows emulators are buggy and unreliable and im sure your card is compatable.
[21:55] <sebsebseb> brianl: yeah Nidswrapper should only be a last resort really
[21:55] <MaXiMuS5> I'm new...how do I reply to someone...
[21:56] <solid_liq> abstrakt, if it won't be exactly the same, it should hopefully at least be really close so it won't take too terribly long to get it exactly the way you want
[21:56] <solid_liq> abstrakt, 10.04 is really nice too btw
[21:56] <abstrakt> k
[21:56] <GeekSquid> !who | MaXiMuS5
[21:56] <guntbert> MaXiMuS5: put the nick of that person at the beginning of your line, <tab> completions helps
[21:56] <syme> what do I do to fix a "Could not download all repository indexes" error when trying to update?
[21:56] <abstrakt> solid_liq, i just need it to be faster mostly, i probably won't be using GNOME
[21:56] <abstrakt> probably going with openbox
[21:56] <brianl> DCGstudios, any other idea's on how i could get it working?
[21:56] <abstrakt> though i do wish i could figure out how to better configure openbox
[21:56] <sebsebseb> brianl: 1.  continue to try and get it working in Ubuntu natively.  2.  Try a distro such as Mandriva and maybe also PC Linux OS, from Live CD, where your wireless  will probably just work, since OpenSuse can do it.  3. Use Ndiswrapper
[21:56] <sebsebseb> brianl: Your choice!
[21:57] <solid_liq> abstrakt, old computer?
[21:57] <abstrakt> solid_liq, umm, not as much as what i'm doing with it
[21:57] <solid_liq> abstrakt, ???
[21:57] <TonyV> SwedeMike: Under IDE Function Setup, I have options for OnChip IDE Channel 0 (Enabled), IDE DMA transfer access (Enabled), and IDE Prefetch Mode (Enabled).
[21:57] <brianl> sebsebseb, what is ndiswrapper?
[21:57] <abstrakt> audio video sucks down the processor time
[21:57] <fatman1683> Hi, I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu on an oldish laptop, it gets as far as loading initrd.gz, then blackscreens.  Anyone have any ideas?
[21:57] <SwedeMike> TonyV: oki.
[21:57] <DCGstudios> brianl, honestly this is one of the only cases in the newer ubuntu versions where iv heard of bcm43xx cards not having the propitery drivers on a fresh install
[21:57] <sebsebseb> brianl: A program that will probably allow you to use the Windows driver for your wireless
[21:58] <solid_liq> abstrakt, that should still be fast enough with gnome
[21:58] <Agu10> how can I change my resolution to make it higher? I can only choose from different but all lower resolutions than my screen.
[21:58] <MaXiMuS5> ubottu thanks
[21:58] <DCGstudios> brainl, unless you want me to redirect you into recomiling your kernel, or doing a fresh reinstall, then im not sure what else to do.
[21:58] <TonyV> SwedeMike: Under Serial-ATA Configuration, I have Serial-ATA Controller (Enabled), RAID Enabled (Enabled), and six entries for SATA n RAID (Enabled), where n is 1-6.
[21:58] <abstrakt> solid_liq, yeah actually moving to fluxbox didn't make much of a difference, still ended up with the same issue
[21:58] <Agu10> ubottu: really?
[21:58] <brianl> DCGstudios, do you think recompiling my kernel will do anything?
[21:58] <SwedeMike> TonyV: try turning off raid.
[21:58] <abstrakt> solid_liq, although i think i know how to solve it temporarily, but it's a hack and a PITA
[21:58] <sebsebseb> brianl: no
[21:58] <_OskaR_> Help. u did a upgrade from 09.10 to 10.04LTS and now i have NO screen just a [NO SIGNAL] !
[21:58] <DCGstudios> brianl, you might be able to manually add the drivers.
[21:58] <pcgeek32147> i need help how do i get 10.04 to see my tv as monitor via hdmi i have a inspiron dell mini 10 with intel gcard my tv is a sanyo
[21:59] <sebsebseb> brianl: the kernel you have installed is ok
[21:59] <brianl> DCGstudios, i just installed this dist today, there is nothing important on it
[21:59] <TonyV> SwedeMike: Okay, done.
[21:59] <Jordan_U> brianl: Are you sure that your wireless card is BCM5787, and not your ethernet card?
[21:59] <sebsebseb> brianl: so you just went from OpenSuse to Ubuntu?
[21:59] <brianl> sebsebseb, i went from opensuse, to slackware, to obuntu
[21:59] <DCGstudios> brianl, thats what i was thinking, so before you even try ndiswrapper i would do a fresh reinstall..
[21:59] <brianl> ubuntu
[21:59] <sebsebseb> brianl: To slackware why?
[21:59] <brianl> dunno
[21:59] <brianl> lol
[21:59] <_OskaR_> Help. u did a upgrade from 09.10 to 10.04LTS and now i have NO screen just a [NO SIGNAL] !  (i should use FGLRX )
[22:00] <onetinsoldier> _OskaR_: hi. not sure how to help with your problem, so keep asking once in a while. but you'll want to include what kind of video card you have
[22:00] <TonyV> SwedeMike: I also have a Marvel SATAII Controller enabled, but that's my eSATA port with nothing attached to it, it shouldn't make a difference.  I'll go ahead and disable it, too.
[22:00] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb, becuase trying new ditros can further your knowledge?
[22:00] <MaXiMuS5> Testfunc23 If i run in a terminal, how do i get the output i'm looking for
[22:00] <sebsebseb> brianl: Which number?  I gave choices a little while ago :)
[22:00] <SwedeMike> TonyV: sounds good.
[22:00] <fatman1683> Hi, I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu on an oldish laptop, it gets as far as loading initrd.gz, then blackscreens.  Anyone have any ideas?
[22:00] <brianl> 1\
[22:00] <sebsebseb> DCGstudios: well in that case, he should so do my number 2 choice, heh heh :D
[22:00] <Jordan_U> brianl: In fact, yes, BCM5787 is an ethernet card. Could you pastebin the output of "lspci" so we can tell you what chipset your wireless card is?
[22:00] <brianl> I would like to try and get it working
[22:00] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb: lol
[22:00] <avi93> hey
[22:00] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb: just install gentoo in that case
[22:00] <pcgeek32147> i need help how do i get 10.04 to see my tv as monitor via hdmi i have a inspiron dell mini 10 with intel gcard my tv is a sanyo
[22:01] <_OskaR_> Help. u did a upgrade from 09.10 to 10.04LTS and now i have NO screen just a [NO SIGNAL] !  (ATI hd3200 )  is there an option to hold the boot and do a terminal ?
[22:01] <avi93> is it possible to hide my IP when i browsing?
[22:01] <SwedeMike> pcgeek32147: oki, really, stop repeating yourself, it's not helping.
[22:01] <TonyV> SwedeMike: I'll reboot and see what happens.  I don't see any other hard drive settings, other than the normal boot order stuff.
[22:01] <brianl> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/434028/
[22:01] <SwedeMike> TonyV: good luck!
[22:01] <pcgeek32147> then help me
[22:02] <MaXiMuS5> Anyone know how to get the terminal to act as a debugger?
[22:02] <DCGstudios> pcgeek32147, install your drivers at system > administration > hardware drivers... then to configure it youll need to go into system > administration > nvida x server settings
[22:02] <langvann_> Hey, im just finished installing LTSP on my server for a fat-client.. Howevr  tftpd-hpa wont start, in syslog it tells me that -s have too many directories??
[22:02] <langvann_> Anyone?
[22:02] <DCGstudios> pcgeek32147, (assuming your using an nvidia card)
[22:02] <SwedeMike> pcgeek32147: you haven't even provided what happens. Do you see nothing via hdmi? have you tried ONLY hdmi?
[22:02] <pcgeek32147> did that
[22:02] <awc> my  Ipod touch 3G won't allow me to put more than 3 gigs of music on it when syncing with rhythbox. any ideas how I can get it to work?
[22:02] <_OskaR_> Help. u did a upgrade from 09.10 to 10.04LTS and now i have NO screen just a [NO SIGNAL] !  (ATI hd3200 )  is there an option to hold the boot and do a terminal ? i tried probe the lan ip of it but nither shh or vnc is avail.
[22:02] <fibres> Hi all
[22:02] <sebsebseb> DCGstudios: nah, I guess brianl  doesn't want a complacted distro hence leaving Slackware.  Also the two distro's I mentioned earlier are nice and user friendly as well :)
[22:02] <Jordan_U> brianl: I don't see any wireless card there, are you using a USB dongle?
[22:02] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb, lol yea i was kidding
[22:03] <avi93> anyone knows how i can hide my IP when i browsing?
[22:03] <brianl> Jordan_U, no, i am using an HP laptop
[22:03] <fibres> Can anyone here tell me where to get older versions of ubuntu server? Im ttrying to download 8.04 but the site dont seem to have it anymore?
[22:03] <SwedeMike> avi93: hide how? from what?
[22:03] <sebsebseb> fibres: well sure
[22:03] <bastid_raZor> fibres: releases.ubuntu.com
[22:03] <sebsebseb> fibres: since 10.04 is the latest LTS server now
[22:03] <geistkampfer> Hi! I'm can't boot my Win XP (invalid signature) after installing Lucid in the same HD.
[22:04] <geistkampfer> os-prober came back with only Windows. No Ubuntu
[22:04] <Hagus> I upgraded my ubuntu to the latest version and have lost my webserver and hence my printing ability.
[22:04] <avi93> SwedeMike: i just asking if it possible... even when i go to WhatIsMyIP it would not show me my IP... is it possible?
[22:04] <SwedeMike> avi93: no.
[22:04] <Hagus> How do I sort this, please?
[22:04] <brianl> Jordan_U, its weird because i got the wireless working on opensuse, thats what i cant figure out
[22:04] <_OskaR_> Help. u did a upgrade from 09.10 to 10.04LTS and now i have NO screen just a [NO SIGNAL] !  (ATI hd3200 )  hold Grub and get into repair consolle ????
[22:04] <DCGstudios> Jordan_U, iv tryed all that
[22:04] <|littlebear|> avi93: hm. it might
[22:04] <Jordan_U> geistkampfer: That's normal, os-prober only lists OSs that aren't the one you're booted into
[22:04] <geistkampfer> update-grub came back with : /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: unknown filesystem
[22:04] <SwedeMike> avi93: it will show some IP, you can use "tor" or something so it'll show some other IP
[22:04] <|littlebear|> avi93: if you are using one of those computers at ICANN then it might
[22:04] <Jordan_U> DCGstudios: ?
[22:04] <fibres> So what does LTS mean?
[22:05] <TonyV> Long Term Support.
[22:05] <sebsebseb> !lts | fibres
[22:05] <avi93> SwedeMike: ok.. thanks... can i get a "fake" IP?
[22:05] <DCGstudios> Jordan_U, brianl cannot install the drivers with packages, and lspci/lshw isnt detecting his wireless card. its an internal bcm43xx.
[22:05] <|littlebear|> avi93: use proxy
[22:05] <langvann_> Hey, im just finished installing LTSP on my server for a fat-client.. Howevr  tftpd-hpa wont start, in syslog it tells me that -s have too many directories??
[22:05] <SwedeMike> avi93: it'll proxy via another place so it'll show their IP
[22:05] <fibres> Thanks ubottu
[22:05] <langvann_> May 15 22:50:17 server init: tftpd-hpa main process (16484) terminated with status 64
[22:05] <langvann_> May 15 22:50:17 server init: tftpd-hpa main process ended, respawning
[22:05] <DCGstudios> Jordan_U, just saving you time.
[22:05] <sebsebseb> !thanks | fibres
[22:05] <geistkampfer> Jordan_U: ah I see. Do i need to edit the grub.cfg?
[22:05] <Jordan_U> DCGstudios: How do you know that it's bcm43xx?
[22:05] <avi93> SwedeMike: explain please
[22:05] <DCGstudios> Jordan_U, becuase thats what he told me.
[22:05] <moza> Hi i have a minor problem with the shortcut panel in the top bar.
[22:06] <avi93> SwedeMike: it's a program?
[22:06] <guntbert> fatman1683: my first question in such cases: did you md5 check the image before burning?
[22:06] <robin0800> brianl: make sure wireless card is turned on
[22:06] <Loshki> fibres: look here for 8.04: http://ubuntu-releases.wallawalla.edu/hardy/
[22:06] <SwedeMike> avi93: http://www.torproject.org/
[22:06] <_OskaR_> Help. u did a upgrade from 09.10 to 10.04LTS and now i have NO screen just a [NO SIGNAL] !  (ATI hd3200 )  hold at Grub , what key triggers that ?
[22:06] <fatman1683> guntbert: I'm using a netboot image, I didn't see an md5 hash listed for it
[22:06] <Malkavian_> did anyone know where is the kdevelop4 setting that allows me to start an external console when runing my C program?
[22:07] <MaXiMuS5> Anyone: I need to see the commands issued by an app (gui). Is there anyway to see these commands or a log file or something? Anyone?
[22:07] <avi93> SwedeMike: THANK YOU!
[22:07] <SwedeMike> _OskaR_: hold in shift to get to grub2 menu
[22:07] <brianl> Jordan_U, on opensuse when i did the /usr/sbin/install_bcm43xx_firmware, it made the wireless work
[22:07] <Agu10> SwedeMike: any ideas? here I get an error: "SystemError: installArchives() failed"
[22:07] <Jordan_U> geistkampfer: No, I think the problem is with the windows partition botsector. Could you pastebin the output of this script: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ ?
[22:07] <mac9416> In a deb archive, there is a data/. directory. How can you have a . directory?
[22:07] <awc> my  Ipod touch 3G won't allow me to put more than 3 gigs of music on it when syncing with rhythmbox. any ideas how I can get it to work?
[22:07] <brianl> robin0800, i didnt even know it could be turned off?
[22:07] <SwedeMike> Agu10: I have no idea.
[22:07] <sebsebseb> !server > fibres
[22:07] <Agu10> ok, thanks anyways
[22:07] <bastid_raZor> mac9416:  . is the current directory you're in
[22:07] <_OskaR_> Help. u did a upgrade from 09.10 to 10.04LTS and now i have NO screen just a [NO SIGNAL] !  (ATI hd3200 )  hold at Grub , hold with shift il try.
[22:07] <greezmunkey> MaXiMuS5: WHat app?
[22:07] <Jordan_U> brianl: Can you currently use the card in another OS?
[22:07] <bastid_raZor> mac9416: oh.. i misread
[22:08] <geistkampfer> Jordan_U: ok brb
[22:08] <Jordan_U> brianl: If it's not showing up in lspci it may be a hardware problem.
[22:08] <brianl> Jordan_U, this is the only os i have installed on this computer
[22:08] <mac9416> bastid_raZor, :-)  Yeah, that's why I'm so confused. Not sure how that directory can even be created without throwing errors.
[22:08] <guntbert> fatman1683: netboot image? what do you mean?
[22:08] <robin0800> brianl: on most laptops it can
[22:08] <fatman1683> guntbert: I'm booting over PXE from a tftp server
[22:08] <guntbert> !repeat | _OskaR_
[22:09] <DCGstudios> brianl, yea alot of laptops have small switch to toggle your wireless card.
[22:09] <MaXiMuS5> greezmunkey: any app. For example, i use an app to change desktop background...i WANT to see how it does it i.e. the command
[22:09] <grumbel> Is there an easy way to compile a 64bit binary on a 32bit Ubuntu?
[22:09] <TonyV> SwedeMike: No dice on the SSD, it still shows zero drives.  :(
[22:09] <sebsebseb> grumbel: no
[22:09] <guntbert> fatman1683: ah, you could have said so in the beginning :-) - no experience here with that - sorry
[22:09] <TonyV> SwedeMike: I'm totally at a loss.
[22:09] <sebsebseb> grumbel: or maybe some how if you got a 64bit proccessor, but probably not
[22:09] <fatman1683> guntbert well that doesnt really have anything to do with it, the PXE part is working, it just won't install
[22:10] <syme> what do I do to fix a "Could not download all repository indexes" error when trying to update?
[22:10] <sebsebseb> grumbel: or well, if you got 64bit proccessor,  32bit Ubuntu,  and Virtualbox you can actsaully run 64bit VM's
[22:10] <SwedeMike> TonyV: then I have no idea. try removing any partition on it as well, that's the only other thing I can think of right now.
[22:10] <guntbert> fatman1683: ok, from where did you get that image?
[22:10] <brianl> DCGstudios, im looking around i dont see one....where would it be?
[22:10] <fatman1683> guntbert: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[22:10] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb is right grumbel, i run 64 bit windows 7 in VM with my dual core and ubuntu 32 bit.
[22:11] <greezmunkey> MaXiMuS5: I'm not sure that'
[22:11] <m45h> im following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=327597 but the link to download Ubuntu netboot.tar.gz isnt working anywhere i can get a new link?
[22:11] <robin0800> brianl: depends on the laptop
[22:11] <DCGstudios> brainl, kinda depends, usually on the sides of the laptop or the front.
[22:11] <Jordan_U> grumbel: sebsebseb: You can with gcc-multilib, though I don't remember the specifics off the top of my head.
[22:11] <fatman1683> m45h: what version?
[22:11] <Hagus> How do I get my webserver back, please?
[22:11] <Slart> Hagus: you lost it?
[22:11] <_OskaR_> Help. u did a upgrade from 09.10 to 10.04LTS and now i have NO screen just a [NO SIGNAL] !  (ATI hd3200 )  hold at Grub - get to reapir .. anny other IDEA ??????????
[22:11] <m45h> any version just so it can run on a old laptop
[22:11] <fatman1683> m45h: they're all here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/
[22:12] <Hagus> Yes, I think it must have been when I upgraded
[22:12] <Jordan_U> _OskaR_: Hold shift during boot and select recovery mode
[22:12] <fatman1683> but I'm having trouble getting it to install on my old laptop =(
[22:12] <m45h> fatman: i dont know which file to download theres soo many files :|
[22:12] <Hagus> I also have a problem with emacs.  It will neither install nor uninstall properly.
[22:12] <MaXiMuS5> Anyone know how i can view the commands issued by apps? (i.e. if an app mounts a drive, i want to see the command that it used)
[22:12] <Hagus> I guess they are related in some way.
[22:12] <Slart> Hagus: I think you might have to give me some more details.. what version of ubuntu are you using, which webserver were you using.. how do you know it's gone and so on
[22:12] <fatman1683> m45h pick a version, you probably want the i386 image, and download netboot.tar.gz
[22:12] <m45h> thanks man found it
[22:13] <grumbel> Building 64bit on 32bit or visa versa seems to be possible with pbuilder: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=289139
[22:13] <brianl> DCGstudios, is there nothing else i can do?
[22:13] <guntbert> fatman1683: (just fishing around) - you could try to install it in a virtual machine - to know if it is the image, the setup or the computer
[22:14] <_OskaR_> Help. u did a upgrade from 09.10 to 10.04LTS and now i have NO screen just a [NO SIGNAL] !  (ATI hd3200 )  hold at Grub - get to reapir .. anny other IDEA ??????????  holding down anny SHIFT key still nothing !!!!!!!!!!
[22:14] <DCGstudios> brianl, can you boot into a live CD and run 'lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4'  and see if your wifi card is detected
[22:14] <Hagus> How do I find out what my ubuntu version is, Slart?
[22:14] <sebsebseb> brianl: I gave you three choices earlier :D
[22:14] <bastid_raZor> Hagus: lsb_release -a
[22:14] <Hagus> The webserver that I had been using was the default one at /var/www
[22:15] <Slart> Hagus: well.. you can run "lsb_release -a" in a terminal.. you might be able to check the help, about menu as well
[22:15] <MaXiMuS5> )=
[22:15] <_OskaR_> Help. u did a upgrade from 09.10 to 10.04LTS and now i have NO screen just a [NO SIGNAL] !  (ATI hd3200 )  hold at Grub - get to reapir .. anny other IDEA ??????????  holding down anny SHIFT key still nothing !!!!!!!!!! This happened BOTH on a ISO install of 10.04 AND a upgrade after a 09.10 ...to 10.04  !!!
[22:15] <robin0800> brianl: google your laptop to find wireless info from manufacturer
[22:15] <DCGstudios> Hagus, or if you dont lsb modules... 'uname -a'
[22:15] <Slart> Hagus: Apache perhaps? there is no webserver installed by default.. at least not on the desktop install
[22:15] <Hagus> 10.04 LTS
[22:15] <greezmunkey> s possible (oops!) but most of that stuff is script drives, you would have to track down what script is being run, then sift through that in detail.
[22:15] <greezmunkey> /s/drives/driven
[22:16] <EzeQL> hi all
[22:16] <Hagus> All my directories under /var/www are still there, so I shall try downloading apache2 again.
[22:16] <Hagus> Thanks, Slart :0
[22:16] <Hagus> I mean :)
[22:16] <FloodBot4> Hagus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <EzeQL> how do i find where is apache installed?
[22:16] <Slart> Hagus: are you running the regular desktop install? ie with the Gnome gui, pretty boot up logo and such.. or is it ubuntu server (no gui, just command line)
[22:16] <EzeQL> i know there is a service apache2 how do i find whre is it installed
[22:17] <geistkampfer> Jordan_U: where do I put the bootinfoscript?
[22:17] <Jordan_U> _OskaR_: Did you start holding shift while still in the BIOS screen? It needs to be held down by the time grub starts (and starting early doesn't hurt anything)
[22:17] <bastid_raZor> EzeQL: the binary or the files it needs to configure it?
[22:17] <_OskaR_> Help. i did a upgrade from 09.10 to 10.04LTS and now i have NO screen just a [NO SIGNAL] !  (ATI hd3200 )  holding down anny SHIFT key still nothing ! This happened BOTH on a ISO install of 10.04 AND a upgrade after a 09.10 ...to 10.04  !!!  what do i do ??
[22:17] <EzeQL> the binary
[22:17] <Hagus> I was just using the regular Ubuntu update manager, Slart
[22:17] <xsaiddx> hello guys
[22:17] <Jordan_U> geistkampfer: You can run it from anywhere, then pastebin the output.
[22:17] <Slart> Hagus: yea, you can try installing apache again.. either by using synaptic or apt-get.. either way will work
[22:17] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | geistkampfer
[22:17] <bastid_raZor> EzeQL: which apache2
[22:17] <pdtpatrick> @EzeQL u want to find out where apache2 installs the config files or ?
[22:17] <_OskaR_> Help. i did a upgrade from 09.10 to 10.04LTS and now i have NO screen just a [NO SIGNAL] !  (ATI hd3200 )  holding down anny SHIFT key still nothing (from i push power on)
[22:17] <Slart> !repeat | _OskaR_
[22:17] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: Grub 2 issue I guess
[22:18] <brianl> robin0800, its a broadcom wireless lan driver
[22:18] <DCGstudios> _OskaR_, is the plug in the back of the moniter screwed in tight?
[22:18] <Hagus> I will try the apache thing first and if that works, then I should be happy enough, Slart.
[22:18] <lololo> hi
[22:18] <pdtpatrick> @EzeQL u can do like bastic_raZor said and you can also run 'sudo dpkg -L apache2'
[22:18] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: or a boot up issue
[22:18] <lololo> hello
[22:18] <_OskaR_> Help. i did a upgrade from 09.10 to 10.04LTS and now i have NO screen just a [NO SIGNAL] !  (ATI hd3200 )  holding down anny SHIFT key still nothing (from i push power on) ( i do see a _  in the beginning the loses signal
[22:18] <lololo> how can i make the gay.pl script work on irssi
[22:18] <lololo> on ubuntu?
[22:18] <Slart> Hagus: give it a try.. you might need to configure apache but give it a try.. see what happens
[22:18] <DCGstudios> _OskaR_, you need to answer someone and stop spamming.
[22:18] <bastid_raZor> lololo: ask in #irssi
[22:19] <xsaiddx> im on lubuntu and i wanna use drivel when i ente my login  stuff i hit connect then it exit
[22:19] <MaXiMuS5> Anyone know a good client for this, or if I can run it in the terminal?
[22:19] <lololo> why?
[22:19] <_OskaR_> Help. i did a upgrade from 09.10 to 10.04LTS and now i have NO screen just a [NO SIGNAL] !  (ATI hd3200 )  holding down anny SHIFT key still nothing (from i push power on) ( i do see a  "_" (cursor flashing) in the beginning the loses signal
[22:19] <xsaiddx> anyone guys knows why
[22:19] <awc> my  Ipod touch 3G won't allow me to put more than 3 gigs of music on it when syncing with rhythmbox. any ideas how I can get it to work?
[22:19] <EzeQL> pdtpatrick , bastid_raZor : which does the trick i found apache2
[22:19] <Slart> _OskaR_: just repeating your questions every 10 seconds will just get you kicked out of here.. answer the people that has asked you for more details
[22:19] <Hagus> Setting up emacs22 (22.2-0ubuntu9) ... Byte-compiling add-on packages, please wait... failed.
[22:19] <brianl> DCGstudios, what is so wrong with using ndswrapper?
[22:19] <EzeQL> and how to find the config files?
[22:19] <bastid_raZor> EzeQL: /etc/apache2
[22:19] <Hagus> It gives me that emacs failed message, Slart :(
[22:19] <EzeQL> pdtpatrick , bastid_raZor :  thanks :)
[22:19] <pdtpatrick> u welcome
[22:20] <xsaiddx> im on lubuntu and i wanna use drivel when i ente my login  stuff i hit connect then it exit
[22:20] <glib> where does rhythmbox store its plugins?  --i downloaded a new one but i don't know where to put it
[22:20] <_OskaR_>  ( i do see a  "_" (cursor flashing) in the beginning the loses signal
[22:20] <Slart> Hagus: hmm.. can you pastebin the error? by text or screenshot.. either way is fine
[22:20] <xsaiddx> anyone guys knows why
[22:20] <bastid_raZor> EzeQL: also pdtpatrick's command would tell where config files are installed to
[22:20] <Slart> !pastebin | Hagus
[22:20] <lololo> OMG UBUNTU SUCKS
[22:20] <DCGstudios> brianl, generally theres preformance loss and alot of bugs when it comes to windows emulators. Im not expierenced with it and generally dont reccommend them.
[22:20] <lololo> MY UPGRADE JUST CRASHED
[22:20] <lololo> DPKG ERROR
[22:20] <lololo> WHAT I DO
[22:20] <FloodBot4> lololo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:20] <Slart> lololo: please.. go easy with the caps and newlines..
[22:20] <brianl> DCGstudios, well, it would be better then no wireless right?
[22:20] <sebsebseb> !caps | lololo
[22:20] <lololo> !caps sebsebseb
[22:20] <qkslvrwolf> So I have an smb share that gets a dynamic ip address.
[22:20] <lololo> !ubottu
[22:20] <lololo> !ubottu
[22:20] <lololo> !ubottu
[22:20] <FloodBot4> lololo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:20] <sebsebseb> !ops | lololo
[22:21] <jpds> lololo: Hi.
[22:21] <robin0800> brianl: until lspci sees your card nothing will work
[22:21] <Hagus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/434034/ Slart
[22:21] <qkslvrwolf> when I boot or login to my machine, I would like to have it run nmblookup to find the correct ip address for the samba share, then modify the hosts entry.
[22:21] <_OskaR_>  [NO SIGNAL] !  (ATI hd3200 )  is it possible to boot the iso into repair ???
[22:21] <qkslvrwolf> I can write the script
[22:21] <DCGstudios> brianl, honestly i dont know why yours wouldnt work. if it were me id try a reinstall, check for drivers, if not follow the wiki instructions once more. if no success then, id look into ndiswrapper.
[22:21] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: you can check your ISO, if you still have it
[22:21] <lololo> i have nigger friends that i gave them ubuntu to use
[22:21] <uLinux> hello
[22:22] <running_rabbit07> lololo = ban?
[22:22] <qkslvrwolf> what I don't know is where to put it so that it executes either on login or on bootup
[22:22] <brianl> DCGstudios, okay, i will try and reinstall again and see if maybe it will be better.
[22:22] <_OskaR_> i did .. iso is sane
[22:22] <qkslvrwolf> I looked at the /etc/init.d scripts
[22:22] <pdtpatrick> @qkslvrwolf .. i think you would have to go under sessions and run at startup
[22:22] <bastid_raZor> !startup > qkslvrwolf  for login
[22:22] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: right ok,  it could be simpally that  10.04, does not like your computer hardware
[22:22] <bastid_raZor> !boot > qkslvrwolf for on boot
[22:22] <glib> does anyone know where to install rhythmbox plugins?
[22:22] <Slart> Hagus: hang on.. let me try installing emacs here on my system.. see if it does the same thing to me
[22:22] <DCGstudios> brainl, yea sorry we couldnt get it working
[22:22] <Hagus> ok
[22:22] <dominicdinada> Does anybody know of a site with some downloadable Iptables examples that i could learn from ?
[22:22] <base3> anyone know a program available for ubuntu that can handle multipart zip files?
[22:23] <uLinux> What is the keyboard shortcut to show System Monitor > Processes window?
[22:23] <brianl> DCGstudios, its okay, thanks for the help anyways, maybe a re-install will help
[22:23] <Slart> base3: the regular.. file-roller gui thing does it
[22:23]  * Hagus wishes he had never heard of emacs
[22:23] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: also ATI is a bit,  well it doesn't always work properly with Ubuntu, let's put it that way
[22:23] <_OskaR_> @ sebsebseb  i gather.. but can i boot the iso and force fglrx ?
[22:23] <Hagus> I have survived up till now without emacs :)
[22:23] <bastid_raZor> qkslvrwolf: adding it to /etc/rc.local for running it after boot
[22:23] <EzeQL> bastid_raZor , pdtpatrick : ok ,I foudn the files. now i am trying to do the same with php. but there is no response. how can i find it?
[22:24] <onetinsoldier> glib: probably in... /usr/lib/rhythmbox/plugins
[22:24] <DCGstudios> brianl, yea you should run the command to check for your card on a live CD before you reinstall.
[22:24] <brianl> sebsebseb, what were the other dist's most like this one that you said before?
[22:24] <uLinux> What is the keyboard shortcut to show Processes window?
[22:24] <glib> onetinsoldier, i will check that out
[22:24] <pdtpatrick> @EzeQL did u already install php or did u install LAMP?
[22:24] <brianl> DCGstudios, what if i see the card on a live cd, then what?
[22:24] <onetinsoldier> glib: roger. good luck
[22:24] <_OskaR_> @ sebsebseb  i gather.. but can i boot the iso and force fglrx ? or run a reconfig of x
[22:24] <sebsebseb> brianl: Mandriva and PC Linux OS, but there are a few others as well,  in a way those are more like OpenSuse, but in a good way,  I mean since those two also use RPM
[22:24] <bastid_raZor> !php | EzeQL use the guide
[22:24] <running_rabbit07> uLinux, System> Preferences> Key Board shortcuts
[22:24] <brianl> sebsebseb, would you recommend OpenSUSE too?
[22:24] <uLinux> ok
[22:24] <DCGstudios> brianl, Then id still continue the reinstall lol, but then at least youll know your card itself isnt broken... =P
[22:24] <pdtpatrick> damn this ubuntu bot is sweet
[22:24] <dominicdinada> Does anybody know of a site with some downloadable Iptables examples that i could learn from ?
[22:25] <brianl> DCGstudios, lol
[22:25] <EzeQL> pdtpatrick, i didnt install the system. server its exceuting phps trhoguht the website but not CLI.
[22:25] <Slart> Hagus: ok, it worked on my machine.. but let's remove it and see if we can't get your apache working first
[22:25] <_OskaR_> @ sebsebseb  guess i am forced to ditch 10.04 and reformat and go back to 09.10 !
[22:25] <sebsebseb> brianl: no I don't recommend OpenSuse, since when I tried it in a virtual machine I didn't like the look and such,  plus the Novell and Microsoft patents deal, but that's rather off topic, to talk about in here
[22:25] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: maybe
[22:25] <Slart> Hagus: try running this in a terminal    "sudo dpkg --remove emacs22"
[22:25] <brianl> sebsebseb, okay, thank you
[22:26] <_OskaR_> @ sebsebseb   09.10 ! works. no probl.
[22:26] <brianl> Thanks everyone for your help.
[22:26] <DCGstudios> brianl, i really like mint, but its basiclly ubuntu.
[22:26] <onetinsoldier> _OskaR_: this happened from 'upgrading'?
[22:26] <rosco_y> What are good choices for music players (preferably with library functions and an equalizer)?
[22:26] <sebsebseb> brianl: Fedora is also ok when it installs.  however I have a good feeling your wireless will just work in Mandriva, so worth trying a Live CD,  if you can't get your driver working natively in Ubuntu, or just use Ndiswrapper in Ubuntu instead,  even though DCGstudios woudn't  recommend that
[22:27] <Hagus> Seems to have to worked
[22:27] <sebsebseb> !ndiswrapper | brianl
[22:27] <smt> hmm, since the update to lucid my gnome games dont save stats anymore, any idea how to fix that?
[22:27] <uLinux> running_rabbit07 it doesnt show shortcut for processes
[22:27] <_OskaR_> @ onetinsolier   yes i have tried both to upgrade from 09.10 and to clean install from iso
[22:27] <bastid_raZor> !players > rosco_y
[22:27] <Slart> Hagus: ok, do the same with this package as well    "sudo dpkg --remove emacs22-gtk"
[22:27] <SwedeMike> rosco_y: audacious
[22:27] <uLinux> I could create one but i dont the command
[22:27] <uLinux> dont know
[22:27] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: yep
[22:27] <Slart> Hagus: then try this    "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install"
[22:27] <onetinsoldier> _OskaR_: roger. hmmm
[22:28] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: and still supported untill end of October
[22:28] <running_rabbit07> uLinux, I don't know, that is the only place I knew to look.
[22:28] <rosco_y> thanks bastid_raZor!
[22:28] <sebsebseb> onetinsoldier: they can't even boot up Ubuntu
[22:28] <brianl> sebsebseb, between pc linux os and mandriva, which would you say is better?
[22:28] <Slart> Hagus: hopefully it will just run through without any errors
[22:28] <sebsebseb> onetinsoldier: after installing
[22:28] <rosco_y> Thanks SwedeMike!
[22:28] <uLinux> running_rabbit07 tks anyway
[22:28] <running_rabbit07> anytime
[22:28] <onetinsoldier> sebsebseb: roger. strange
[22:28] <bastid_raZor> rosco_y: installing and testing them is easy and if you don't like.. just uninstall
[22:28] <_OskaR_> well it borked my XBMC rig now so ...
[22:29] <Hagus> I have duplicate sources, does that matter too much?
[22:29] <_OskaR_> i will not say that i am pleased.
[22:29] <Slart> Hagus: I don't think so
[22:29] <sebsebseb> brianl: going a little off topic now, however.  Mandriva :)  altough remours have it that the company will be getting bought out soon, which could mean the end of the distro.  However if so not a big deal really,  since there's still PC Linux OS, which is a fork of it and also pretty good.
[22:29] <sebsebseb> brianl: maybe a previous version of Ubuntu will work better by the way
[22:29] <brianl> sebsebseb, okay :) Thanks...
[22:29] <brianl> have a good day!
[22:29] <SwedeMike> _OskaR_: xbmc 9.11 isn't really supported for 10.04 anyway, why are you upgrading?
[22:30] <_OskaR_> va api. and OpenGL 3.2
[22:30] <_OskaR_> svn...
[22:30] <GothSpark> Hi all
[22:30] <Hagus> apache2 is already the latest, it tells me
[22:30] <_OskaR_> release for 10:05 cant be too faar.
[22:30] <sebsebseb> onetinsoldier: yeah I guess _OskaR_  may as well just put 9.10 back on
[22:31] <Hagus> However, I am still without localhost
[22:31] <Slart> Hagus: ok, so apache is already installed.. perhaps it isn't configured yet
[22:31] <Slart> Hagus: try this   "sudo service apache start"
[22:31] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: you mean 10.10?  that's actsaully going to be released early, 10/10/10 and yes a Sunday, instead of the 28th
[22:31] <_OskaR_> nope Xbmc 10.05
[22:31] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: well it's ok to put 9.10 back on, and use that, whilst waiting for 10.10
[22:31] <Hagus> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install
[22:31] <Hagus> oops sorry
[22:32] <geistkampfer> Jordan_U: boot script info result http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/xgYvZ2Kp
[22:32] <onetinsoldier> sebsebseb: i guess. i can understand if there was a problem if he upgraded(and he mentioned something about fglrx drivers). but if he can't get in on a clean install i wouldn't know why
[22:32] <Hagus> apache: unrecognized service
[22:32] <base3> Slart: uh, no it doesnt
[22:32] <_OskaR_> guess i can patch openGL 3.2 onto 09.10
[22:33] <smt> hagus: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[22:33] <Flannel> Hagus, Slart: it's apache2.  But, Hagus, check /var/log/apache2/error.log
[22:33] <Hagus> it started when I switched to apache2
[22:33] <Slart> Hagus: try   sudo service apache2 start   instead
[22:33] <Slart> Flannel: ah.. thanks
[22:33] <Hagus> ty smt and Slart :)
[22:33] <_OskaR_> sugestion to ops.. we need a safe iso boot option to fix my kinda severe issues !!!!!
[22:33] <Flannel> Hagus: does `ps aux | grep apache` give you anything (other than your grep)?
[22:34] <guntbert> !bug | _OskaR_
[22:34] <_OskaR_> i feel thats like wanking .... im on ATI.
[22:34] <sebsebseb> onetinsoldier: indeed
[22:34] <onetinsoldier> _OskaR_: there is a safe boot option of sorts. you boot the live cd. then, i think, chroot into your system
[22:35] <onetinsoldier> mount it... chroot
[22:35] <_OskaR_> NOW wer talking
[22:35] <onetinsoldier> if needed
[22:35] <Flannel> _OskaR_: Alternate CD can automatically boot to a recovery console type thing with the system chrooted
[22:35] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: yeah I guess you could install the properitary ATI driver like that, using chroot or something
[22:35] <TannerF> how do i view all the screens i have open?
[22:35] <onetinsoldier> i'm just not very familiar with the process
[22:35] <TannerF> in a shell, that is
[22:35] <[fade]> tanner screen -ls
[22:35] <_OskaR_> hove do i halt the "beast? "
[22:35] <Hagus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/434039/
[22:35] <tanner> lol
[22:36] <[fade]> if they are detached, if not, to list all of them use ps -ef | grep screen
[22:36] <Hagus> Slart http://paste.ubuntu.com/434039/
[22:36] <Flannel> Hagus: Right, so it looks like apache is running.  You can't view your localhost?
[22:36] <_OskaR_> il pull it to install screen ..brb..
[22:36] <base3> TannerF: Ctrl-a "
[22:36] <TannerF> How do i open that screen though?
[22:37] <Hagus> I think I have localhost working again, Flannel :)
[22:37] <Flannel> TannerF: What do you mean by "screen"?
[22:37] <Slart> Hagus: seems apache is running.. hmm
[22:37] <TannerF> Flannel: Like a screen session
[22:37] <GothSpark> eeem , about flash and Linux , I think I have a bad handeling of it cause I can't play a video on full screen but it plays well on window mode ( note that is a video on youtube)
[22:37] <TannerF> i have irssi running in a screen, and now i can't reattach to it
[22:37] <TannerF> :pp
[22:37] <ewook> screen -r -d
[22:37] <Hagus> Is it localhost:681 for cups?
[22:37] <base3> TannerF: screen -r 32101
[22:37] <[fade]> TannerF screen -ls, then screen -r <session number>
[22:37] <base3> where 32101 is the process pid
[22:38] <base3> and screen -rd 32101 if it isnt already detached
[22:38] <ewook> Hagus: check /etc/services
[22:38] <isualab> hi, i have windows XP and windows 7, i used to have Ubuntu but windows 7 installer seems to have killed it
[22:38] <isualab> http://i42.tinypic.com/xo4mdj.png can someone please take me through install procedure?
[22:39] <isualab> it's not very clear and i lost access to windows once before
[22:39] <isualab> stupid screenshot app :I
[22:39] <GothSpark> isualab , what did you do to kill it ?
[22:39] <onetinsoldier> he installed win7
[22:39] <maximus_> lol (=
[22:39] <isualab> GothSpark: no idea, windows 7
[22:39] <xangua> so he deleted grub
[22:39] <onetinsoldier> yes
[22:40] <Visualante1> it's me from earlier
[22:40] <onetinsoldier> !grub
[22:40] <xangua> !grub2
[22:40] <gartuz> hola
[22:40] <sebsebseb> !es | gartuz
[22:40] <GothSpark> the but tells all :)
[22:40] <Visualante1> kind of tempted to install over windows XP, don't think i actually use anything on it anymore
[22:41] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: I wasn't here earlier, so what do you want to do exactly?
[22:41] <Visualante1> should i choose manual?
[22:41] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: replace XP with Ubuntu?
[22:41] <Visualante1> i want to install 10.04 on my windows 7 machine
[22:41] <Guest24064> [fade]: can i PM you?
[22:41] <Visualante1> and not have it mess up
[22:41] <[fade]> sure
[22:41] <rac_> Is someone here that can help me or point me to a directions regarding a cryptsetup problem?  I accidentally created a lvm in lucid lynx setup and added my encrypted disk to it... (its encrypted with the luks method)
[22:41] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: by removing XP?
[22:41] <Visualante1> that was a possibility but i have my steam games on there
[22:42] <maximus_> help...i need to know if there is a way to view commands issued by general apps in ubuntu...
[22:42] <Visualante1> not really worth downloading them again
[22:42] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: Steam you can run in Wine, however I been reading that a Linux version is coming soon,  there's a recent Mac version
[22:42] <Hagus> ./etc/services does not mention cups, ewook
[22:43] <Visualante1> the latest version of the UI doesn't run on Wine for me, tested it last night
[22:43] <onetinsoldier> maximus_: try running 'htop' in a terminal. you might need to install htop first
[22:43] <Visualante1> when i create partition in installer, what should i set mount as?
[22:43] <Visualante1> and what are the benefits of ext4/3
[22:43] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: you may be able to  after some configuring in Wine to get the latest one working, and no I don't use Steam
[22:43] <maximus_> onetinsoldier: thanks.i'll give it a go now
[22:43] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/433990/    pzl sone one help me with that error massge
[22:43] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: use Ext4 also since your doing a manual install, may as well set up a seperate /home whilst your at it
[22:43] <Visualante1> sebsebseb: i'm actually installing linux to improve productivity, i'm not looking forward to steam on Linux
[22:44] <onetinsoldier> maximus_: ok, good luck. i'm not really sure if that's exactly what you're looking for, but you might find it interesting at least
[22:44] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: ok so you will steam in WIndows 7?
[22:44] <Visualante1> what's a seperate /home
[22:44] <Visualante1> yeah
[22:44] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: never set one up after an install, but you could do that,  however yeah probably easier to do it before you install
[22:44] <sebsebseb> !home | Visualante1
[22:45] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: well really easy to set that up in manual  with your / partition for root, and some swap space
[22:45] <_OskaR_> @ onetinsolier & onetinsoldier  Sorri give.  drive is WIPED,. 9.10 goes back this is NO go
[22:45] <_OskaR_> @ sebsebseb Sorry i give.  drive is WIPED,. 9.10 goes back this is NO god
[22:45] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: ok so how much space does XP have at the moment?
[22:46] <_OskaR_> thx for effort , sorry for Noice.
[22:46] <Visualante1> 75gb
[22:46] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: if you re install 9.10 you can do a seperate /home :)
[22:46] <_OskaR_> bb in 3-4 mnths ;)
[22:46] <Visualante1> windows 7 has 110gb, and i have 66gb free
[22:46] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: makes re insalling Ubuntu easier in the future
[22:46] <_OskaR_> thx will do
[22:46] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: I am about to help Visualante1  set one up in manual install now
[22:46] <Visualante1> i plan to get a new HDD in summer because this one is 2 years old and i have no backup
[22:47] <_OskaR_> i know how to.. ;)
[22:47] <sebsebseb> _OskaR_: ah ok
[22:47] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: back up yeah
[22:47] <Geistkampfer> Hello! I get "error: invalid signature" when I try to boot my Win XP and sudo update-grub came back with "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: unknown filesystem". How do I fix this?
[22:47] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: external hard disk's don't cost much
[22:47] <_OskaR_> i dont know 10.04 ........
[22:47] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: plus  well don't put any really important stuff onto the cloud, but Ubuntu 10.04 comes with Ubuntu One
[22:47] <Visualante1> sebsebseb: i'm a student, i had a 1tb earlier this year but i dropped it :(
[22:47] <_OskaR_> tata
[22:48] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: and you get 2GB free space
[22:48] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: personally I don't want to use Ubuntu One, but for other people it will be useful
[22:48] <Visualante1> yeah i read about it. i use dropbox already
[22:48] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: or yeah you can use dropbox instead
[22:48] <Hagus> My localhost is working but my printer is not being found.  Should I reboot? Could the corrupted emac installation have prevented printers from being detected on boot?
[22:48] <Visualante1> so how do i setup this /home elsewhere?
[22:48] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: when you delete XP, that's it
[22:48] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: everything in that partition will go
[22:49] <Visualante1> i'm keeping XP for now because it has steamgames
[22:49] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: you could actsaully recover quite a lot after woulds though
[22:49] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: oh
[22:49] <sebsebseb> you need to make space for Ubuntu
[22:49] <under> hi
[22:49] <Visualante1> i have 60gb free which should be sufficient for a Linux one
[22:49] <sebsebseb> by resizing WIndows partition
[22:49] <sebsebseb> oh right ok you got 60GB
[22:49] <Visualante1> 67gb even
[22:49] <under> How can I restore defaul panels of Ubuntu?
[22:49] <sebsebseb> yes that's more than enough space for Ubuntu
[22:49]  * Hagus is going to reboot and will return after doing so.
[22:49] <sebsebseb> !panels | under
[22:49] <Visualante1> and 4.1gb swap space still allocated
[22:49] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: How much RAM you got?
[22:50] <Visualante1> 4gb
[22:50] <Visualante1> plan to upgrade soon
[22:50] <Visualante1> 2gb even
[22:50] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: SWAP is an odd one, some  people say that even with 4GB or 8GB RAM, your meant to have double that size for SWAP
[22:50] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: thing is you only really need SWAP for hibernation it seems, and maybe some programs
[22:50] <LjL> sebsebseb: which is pure nonsense
[22:50] <Visualante1> yeah that must be what i did last time then
[22:50] <Visualante1> hibernation never worked in 9.04 anyway
[22:50] <maximus_> onetinsoldier: htop is cool (= close to what I'm looking for but not exactly. while an app is open, if it does something (i.e. mounts a drive) i want to see how it did it (i.e. the command)
[22:50] <Visualante1> on my machine
[22:50] <sebsebseb> LjL: the double the RAM thing, even with 4GB or 8GB?
[22:50] <Visualante1> one of the many reasons i went back to 7
[22:51] <under> thanks sebsebseb
[22:51] <sebsebseb> under: np
[22:51] <robin0800> sebsebseb: I think only if you want to use hibernation
[22:51] <onetinsoldier> maximus_: roger. they'll show up in there.. new running processes will
[22:51] <maximus_> Visualante1: the '
[22:51] <LjL> sebsebseb: yes. it's true that you theoretically need at least as much as your RAM for hibernation to work, and i generally recommend that, but there's otherwise no reason for swap to be so big. there *is* reason to *have* swap rather than doing without, on the other hand'
[22:51] <maximus_> Visualante1: sorry...fingers slipped
[22:52] <Hans_Henrik> for some idiotic reason, the "remote desktop" activated, then when i try to connect, it goes OK until it requests password, then i gotta go to the server, write in the "keyring password", then go back to the computer i want to connect from...
[22:52] <sebsebseb> LjL: right, 4GB RAM how  big SWAP?  8GB RAM how big SWAP?
[22:52] <Hans_Henrik> how can i fix it so i dont need to go write the keyring password? >.>
[22:52] <k1ng\> sebsebseb, x2
[22:52] <Visualante1> so i have 67gb free space do i just do a straight install?
[22:53] <Visualante1> just wondering about the mount point option in manual
[22:53] <k1ng\> 4GBx2 = 8gb
[22:53] <LjL> sebsebseb: 4.2GB and 8.2GB respectively will do fine (the .2s are to ensure it is actually at least as big as your RAM, since things can get confused between decimal and binary multiples)
[22:53] <LinuX2half> where's /dev/loop0?
[22:53] <LjL> k1ng\: why?
[22:53] <qkslvrwolf> can I log something to /var/log from a script?
[22:53] <k1ng\> i read it somewhere
[22:53] <qkslvrwolf> specifically from rc.local?
[22:53] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: you can do a guided install,  you won't get a sepereate /home (which you probably don't really need anyway, but may as well have).  it will put on / and swap space
[22:53] <LjL> k1ng\: doesn't seem like a very strong reason.
[22:53] <LjL> k1ng\: and i'm pretty sure it's nonsense, as i said just earlier
[22:54] <LinuX2half> My current disk is /dev/sda1 and installed with windows
[22:54] <Visualante1> sebsebseb: guided install doesn't make sense
[22:54] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: or use the manual install for some more control,  and I would do 10GB for /  in Ext4 yep,  the rest of the unalloacted space an Ext4 seperate home.  and  also the SWAP space
[22:54] <LinuX2half> I install ubuntu in /dev/loop0
[22:54] <wade> hi
[22:54] <LinuX2half> why isn't it in /dev/sda1?
[22:54] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: however yeah since you got XP and Windows 7 on there
[22:54] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: I guess you got to do a manual install really
[22:54] <lvdave> I recently installed 10.04 on a Dell Vostro 1400 which had been running 8.04 fine.. I've started seeing gnome lockups, where I have to ctl-alt-bsp to restart gnome/X.. They happen usually when I'm in Firefox.. I've tried looking at the logs when this happens but don't know what I'm looking for... any ideas??
[22:54] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: plus you don't want it to re size the partitions, so yes,  since you want it to use the free space
[22:54] <Agu10> can anybody help me make nvidia drivers work on ubuntu 10.04 ???
[22:54] <Agu10> I have a gtx 260
[22:55] <jozefk> what is the md5sum for ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso ?
[22:55] <Agu10> ...
[22:55] <lvdave> jozefk: is that question for me?
[22:55] <greezmunkey> jozefk: d044a2a0c8103fc3e5b7e18b0f7de1c8
[22:55] <Visualante1> the idea of having seperate home makes sense to me, but 10gb seems bit low for apps. i work in computer graphics and we have some fairly large applications
[22:55] <lvdave> nm
[22:55] <guntbert> LjL: about hibernation and swap -- if your system actually uses the swap space while running you will need a bigger amount for hibernation
[22:55] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: indeed coming from Windows it seems like not much space at all for apps
[22:56] <Visualante1> i have my /home sort of on my files partition which is NTFS
[22:56] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: however Linux programs hardly take up any space at all
[22:56] <Visualante1> because i can get to it from Windows and XP
[22:56] <Visualante1> well no i don't i tell a lie but i store everything important on /Files
[22:56] <GothSpark> Agu10 , did you tryed to get  to system , administration , Graphick drivers
[22:56] <jozefk> lvdave, for everyone :) thanks greezmunkey
[22:56] <lvdave> ok
[22:56] <greezmunkey> jozefk: np
[22:56] <LjL> guntbert: well, yes and no... i mean, it's possible, but it's also possible that the system is just swapping out applications' memory to make space for file cache, in which case it'll just do away with the file cache when you shutdown
[22:56] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: ok you make it sound even more now, that you don't really need seperate /home, but may as well make one anyway
[22:57] <jozefk> md5sum is ok but it's not working perfectly. at least it's working
[22:57] <Agu10> GothSpark: "Hardware Drivers" you mean?
[22:57] <LjL> guntbert: an unlikely enough even that i wouldn't bother considering it when assigning swap, in any case
[22:57] <GothSpark> Agu10 yes
[22:57] <FransWillem> My main hdd seems to be full, would anyone know of a trick to find big files that I can remove ?
[22:57] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, you really should make a seperate home if you plan on running linux for the long term, over it makes distro upgrades much more reliable.
[22:57] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: Home is like a cross between my documents and  the windows registery in a way.  except instead of a sily Windows registery, you get hidden .folders where program user data is stored
[22:58] <steven__> is here a game make program i can down on linux
[22:58] <Slart> FransWillem: you can use find.. or the disk space analyser in applications accessories
[22:58] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: as a result once you install a program that's it, you woudn't normally have a reason to re install.  since if something goes wrong, you can just move/delete the hidden .folder for most apps, and  re open the program, and it's like you installed it for the first time
[22:58] <uLinux> Similar program to Flashget for Ubuntu?
[22:58] <Agu10> GothSpark: yes, it says it's installed and activated, but not in use. When I run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and then reboot, I get a message when booting, before the GUI comes, saying that it doesn't work. I chose to restart X server
[22:58] <Agu10> GothSpark: and now it's not in use
[22:59] <LjL> uLinux: download managers/accelerators are aria2, d4x, wmget, jigdo  —  GNOME: gwget  —  KDE: kget
[22:59] <GothSpark> oo I see , Agu10, the same thing appened to me when I tryed the ati drivers 3 years ago
[22:59] <uLinux> tks LjL
[22:59] <guntbert> LjL: good point (1) -- but I'd still advocate swap = ram *1.5 or so (especially on notebooks where hibernating may occour at the worst time possible
[22:59] <Agu10> GothSpark: what should I do?
[22:59] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: you can fit loads in a  10GB   /  partition,  that is only being used by Ubuntu and installed programs
[22:59] <slow-motion> n8
[23:00] <Visualante1> i'm paranoid because computer graphics apps tend to be huge installs
[23:00] <uLinux> uget looks nice
[23:00] <Visualante1> i made it 26gb
[23:00] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: graphics apps yeah, but
[23:00] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: your thinking about running Photoshop in Ubuntu or something like that?
[23:00] <GothSpark> Agu10 , check the requirement for the lasted Nvidia drivers for your graphic card
[23:00] <Visualante1> Maya, Houdini, Nuke...
[23:00] <LjL> guntbert, if we're speaking in the league of 4 or 8 gigs as we are, i really believe that makes no sense. if you're using swap for any other reason than freeing up memory for file cache, then it means your system has already slowed to a halt already
[23:00] <Agu10> GothSpark: but where?
[23:00] <GothSpark> Agu10 there http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index5.aspx?lang=en-us
[23:01] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: Native Linux graphics apps, hardly take up any space at all
[23:01] <m45h> whats the requirment to run Ubuntu 10 Lynix
[23:01] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, if your going to keep the majority of your storage on your /home partition then i would recommend about a 30gb partition for ubuntu / programs
[23:01] <LjL> guntbert: if you want to cater for the unlikely and mostly useless events, on the other hand, then you need infinite memory ;)
[23:01] <lyrae_> Who was helping me last night with ls_colors?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: if your going to be trying to run stuff like Photoshop in Wine inside Ubuntu or in a virtual machine, well that will be stored in the /home  not /
[23:01] <Slart> lyrae_: check irclogs.ubuntu.com
[23:01] <Visualante1> i've used the remaining space for it. in Summer i'll use this disc as Linux only to make my life easier and put Windows on my new drive
[23:02] <GothSpark> sebsebseb photoshop and wine dosent work ... I tryed the Cs4...
[23:02] <Visualante1> partitions just aren't worth the effort. one disc, one OS
[23:02] <DCGstudios> GothSpark, yes it does
[23:02] <lyrae_> Slart, ah neat. ty
[23:02] <Hagus> Just back to say thanks to Slart and co for helping me.  My printer has now been found and my localhost is working.
[23:02] <Hans_Henrik> have activated "remote desktop", when i want to connect to it, it ask for password, when i write the pass, i gotta go to the server i want to connect to, write in "default keyring", then go back to the pc i want to connect from. how can i do it so i dont need physical access to the server each time i want to connect?
[23:02] <Slart> Hagus: ah.. great!
[23:02] <Slart> Hagus: you're welcome
[23:02] <fiver22> Transmission often disappears from the tray/notification area. Running 10.04. Any suggestions?
[23:02] <Hagus> Thanks very much Slart and especially for helping me get rid of emacs
[23:03] <Slart> Hagus: always a pleasure removing emacs =)
[23:03] <robin0800> Visualante1: thy are if you want to keep your settings after a reinstall
[23:03] <Hagus> I rebooted and all was well.
[23:03] <GothSpark> DCGstudios , how did you get it work O.o , my portable edition does not start at all
[23:03] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: 26GB / with a big seperate /home is  a bit silly really.  if your going to do like that, may as well not bother with seperate /home,  and  make a big / partition that also has /home in it,   You can move files  and such into the Windows partitions/s for example  when you got a reason to re install Ubuntu.
[23:04] <guntbert> LjL: thx, accepted :-)  I guess I didn't make a clear picture for myself about for what swap is really used
[23:04] <lyrae_> Ok. when i 'ls' a HD mounted by root, the dirs are shown as blue text on green background. basically unreadable. how can i fix this? the settings are not in .bashrc
[23:04] <DCGstudios> GothSpark, it all depends on the system, its a matter of debugging which is most definitely painful. But assuming your system is some-what up to date virtual machines are the way to go for adobe programs.
[23:04] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: main reason to have a seperate /home is it makes re installing  Ubuntu easier, so you don't have to move data around
[23:04] <Hagus> One thing still happens when I boot up, the theme or appearance gives me a cursor in the shape of an x .  I can get rid of it but is there a way of stopping it defaulting to x ?
[23:04] <xsaiddx> hello people
[23:04] <Visualante1> yeah i see the benefit i am doing that now
[23:04] <onetinsoldier> hi xsaiddx
[23:05] <xsaiddx> when i try to launch blogtk i got this
[23:05] <xsaiddx> Traceback (most recent call last):
[23:05] <xsaiddx>   File "/usr/bin/blogtk", line 14, in <module>
[23:05] <xsaiddx>     import gtkhtml2
[23:05] <FloodBot4> xsaiddx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:05] <DCGstudios> GothSpark, generally i think VMware is good for enterprise virtual machines, and VirutalBox works well for personal virtual machines.
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: most of your Linux space should be a big seperate /home.  you only need like 10GB for /  even if yoru going to be running a load of games from the Ubuntu repo,  or graphics design software or  so on
[23:05] <ratkymarcell> Hello! I've tried to upgrade to Lucid, and now I can't boot anything. GRUB list comes up, than the new splash screen is shown, then nothing but a deaf black screen. It doesn't respond to anything. Any ideas how to fix it?
[23:05] <Hagus> Is there a way of saving the current appearance setting?
[23:06] <GothSpark> DCGstudios I see , than I must export one of my test vm that is on xp and put it on the ose one that I have installed ?
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: put like 14GB for / if you still think 10GB sounds to small.  26GB is a waste of space, though when you got seperate /home.  since  when you done that / will only be used by the operating system, and programs you have installed which also will hardly take up any space
[23:07] <znc> hello all, i let ubuntu do its stupid 'updates' and it forced me onto some new kernel where suddenly my sound doesnt work anymore.  Alsamixer shows the card and none of the levels are muted, and according to the icon at the top right of my screen it also says volume is at 100%.  HOw do I trouble shoot this?  novice user here
[23:07] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: a clean install of Ubuntu is only about 1GB, this is not Windows
[23:07] <xsaiddx> can anyone tell me why blogtk doin this thanks http://paste.ubuntu.com/434057/
[23:07] <DCGstudios> GothSpark, not sure what you mean.. i installed windows 7 into a virtual machine and then used an installer to install whatever i needed.
[23:07] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: where as let's take VIsta Home Premium for example,  that will take up like 16GB hard disk space a clean isntall. and XP with SP3 a clean install will be  about 6GB.
[23:07] <greezmunkey> Hagus: gnome-settings-save, you might want to man that first though to be sure it's what you want.
[23:08] <uLinux> I removed top panel and most of windows dont open exactly in upper left corner.. why?
[23:09] <OlMightyGreek> hi
[23:09] <GothSpark> ok , DCGstudios , =3 well I will not have to install w7 or xp of a machine cause I have one ready for that on windows , I just have to export it
[23:09] <Hagus> where do I find that, greezmunkey?
[23:09] <greezmunkey> Hagus: hey, sorry gnome-session-save, bad typing on my part.
[23:09] <OlMightyGreek> does anybody know how to add samba support to pcman filemanager?
[23:09] <xsaiddx> guys cansomone help me
[23:09] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb, VIsualante1, I recently did a windows 7 install and it was 13GB
[23:09] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb, VIsualante1, windows 7 ultimate that is.
[23:09] <Visualante1> it's already done
[23:09] <Hagus> ah ok - when I typed the other into terminal, it did not know what I meant :)
[23:09] <Visualante1> i don't see how the OS footprint related to the user's footprint
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: you'll see
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: as you use this
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: so you went with 26GB for /  ?
[23:10] <Hagus> that worked :)
[23:10] <Visualante1> i don't think many of you have used Maya, Houdini, Nuke.. or seen the size of plugins and service packs for these apps
[23:10] <Visualante1> yeah
[23:10] <Hagus> ty greezmunkey :)
[23:10] <Visualante1> i don't want to have to deal with it in the future.
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: you don't understand
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: a lot of Windows apps, you would have to get working in Wine or a Windows virtual machine
[23:10] <Visualante1> if this is my main OS on this disc, 320gb.. the /home will grow
[23:10] <Visualante1> sebsebseb: all these apps work native under Linux?
[23:11] <Visualante1> that's why i use them
[23:11] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: no
[23:11] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: well maybe those
[23:11] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: not Photoshop for example though
[23:11] <Visualante1> yeah they do, i know my apps
[23:11] <daedra> !hw
[23:11] <Visualante1> i don't use Photoshop i plan to use Mari
[23:11] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: ok well even so
[23:11] <daedra> !hardware
[23:11] <greezmunkey> Hagus: this is a little old, but has lots of good info: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/GNOME.html
[23:11] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, You probably only need a maximum of 60GB for a strictly OS / program partiton. ( / )
[23:11] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: I expect those apps, will hardly take up that much space the Linux version
[23:11] <Visualante1> i don't even know how big Mari is yet
[23:11] <Visualante1> i think they work on the same core
[23:12] <Visualante1> and i think you're making educated guesses, at best on how big these apps are
[23:12] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: in Windows  those kind of apps tend to be pretty big hard disk spacewise,  in Linux distro's  even those as far as I know won't take that much space up
[23:12] <Visualante1> let me check the install requirements for some of them
[23:12] <greezmunkey> sebsebseb: the biggest aplication on this system is FireFox !
[23:12] <Agu10> how can I close an X session so that I can install nvidia drivers ?
[23:13] <OlMightyGreek> does anybody know how to add samba support to pcman filemanager?
[23:13] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, all of the apps you named will not exceed 15GB in ubuntu.
[23:13] <uLinux> I removed top panel and most of windows dont open exactly in upper left corner.. why?
[23:13] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, and thats very generous, probably much less.
[23:13] <uLinux> it saves a space for the panel
[23:13] <onetinsoldier> Agu10: sudo service gdm stop ...you'll be dropped out of X
[23:14] <Visualante1> Houdini 500 MB required for installation
[23:14] <Visualante1> Maya 4 GB free hard drive space
[23:14] <Hackinho> hello
[23:15] <sebsebseb> Visualante1:  right if you say so
[23:15] <Hackinho> #Satanic_Bank
[23:15] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: however  those are commercial apps
[23:15] <Visualante1> sebsebseb: what do you think i'm using the machine for?
[23:15] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: so for Linux,  they won't have been  made made, as well  as open source apps when it comes to how much hard disk space they use up
[23:15] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, do what you want, your making it more painful every time you upgrade via fresh install.
[23:16] <Visualante1> sebsebseb: well these are the apps i want to use
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: that's fine
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: I am not saying don't use the apps
[23:16] <gmonnie> i need help running wine, can anyone help me?
[23:16] <gustavo> Irc.rizon.net
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: I was just trying to make it clear that in general Linux apps hardly take up any space
[23:17] <DCGstudios> Visualante1,
[23:17] <Visualante1> Nuke wants 5gb
[23:17] <upgrdman> how do i find out what kernels are currently installed on my box?
[23:17] <Visualante1> including temp files
[23:17] <GeekSquid> !winehq | gmonnie
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: you sure your not looking at Windows requirements?
[23:18] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: Windows and Linux requirements won't be the same
[23:18] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, we really dont need to know every application and its size that your going to run. i already gave you a 16gb estimate and you should make your partitions accordingly.
[23:18] <unknownfear> Visualantel: You're talking about Duke Nukem 3D? Shouldn't be anymore than 1 GB
[23:18] <Visualante1> sebsebseb: i am looking specifically at Linux requirements on the product pages
[23:18] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: ok
[23:18] <onetinsoldier> upgrdman: try --> dpkg -l '*linux-image*' | grep ^ii
[23:18]  * mrwes says lucid is very stable as of late
[23:18] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: 26GB /  yes?
[23:18] <Visualante1> DCGstudios: well i am saying the 10gb estimate was probably conservative. and i'm glad i've used more than that.
[23:19] <upgrdman> is there a gui to configure grub?
[23:19] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: ok well in general 10GB  / works well for most of us
[23:19] <Agu10> hi
[23:19] <Visualante1> i imagine it's plenty
[23:19] <mrwes> sebsebseb, I agree
[23:19] <unknownfear> Agu10: Hello :)
[23:19] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, Im not sure who told you 10GB but thats hardly accurate.
[23:19] <Agu10> my nvidia driver installer asks me to close X server
[23:19] <Agu10> wtf?
[23:19] <mrwes> 10gb is not enough for / ? since when?
[23:19] <SwedeMike> Agu10: yes?
[23:19] <mrwes> !wtf
[23:19] <mrwes> heh...damn
[23:19] <mrwes> er...darn
[23:20] <Visualante1> mrwes: if you want to run half a dozen graphics apps from one / then you might want slightly more
[23:20] <Agu10> SwedeMike: how am I supposed to use that installer then?
[23:20] <Moon_Doggy> how would i edit a file in terminal
[23:20] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, For a full OS / Program partition with commercial apps you should run ~50-60gb for long term use.
[23:20] <sebsebseb> Visualante1: anyway DCGstudios said your apps will take up about 16GB  when they are installed,  which means  you will  have quite a lot of GB's that won't be being used by anything at all,  in your /
[23:20] <ermo> Upstart question - I see no services-admin in gnome-system-tools. If I want smbd to start on boot (into the default runlevel), should I use update-rc.d or is there another equivalent tool for upstart?
[23:20] <SwedeMike> Agu10: there are text consoles.
[23:20] <Slart> Moon_Doggy: try nano
[23:20] <mrwes> Visualante1, ahhh..maybe so
[23:20] <unknownfear> Moon_Doggy: simply type 'gedit' than the file name
[23:20] <Agu10> SwedeMike: text consoles?
[23:20] <Moon_Doggy> ty i should have remembered that
[23:20] <mrwes> Visualante1, what else does one need besides the unrestricted ffmpeg ?
[23:20] <sebsebseb> mrwes: he wants to run some propritary apps or something,  so  10GB  apparnatly isn't enough space for /
[23:20] <Visualante1> DCGstudios: good to know, thanks for the heads up
[23:20] <Slart> Moon_Doggy: there's also vim and such.. but nano is a easy starting editor
[23:21] <baba_b00ie> is anyone else having issues with ubuntu 10.04 with flickering video. i have the intel mobile 4 chip series
[23:21] <Agu10> SwedeMike: am I supposed to run it in console mode or what?
[23:21] <SwedeMike> Agu10: yes. ctrl-alt-f1 thru f4. Your graphics console is in f7 usually.
[23:21] <Visualante1> i could have just asked the techies at my school how much space they estimate but it's the weekend
[23:21] <unknownfear> Slart: tried Emacs? It's not bad
[23:21] <mrwes> sebsebseb, ahh...and VB disk images can eat up alot of space too
[23:21] <Agu10> SwedeMike: so which one?
[23:21] <Slart> unknownfear: yes and yes it is =)
[23:21] <sebsebseb> mrwes: yes, but he won't be doing a vm, and he has seperate /home now
[23:21] <DCGstudios> Visualante1, not a problem, generally you want to use the minimal amount for that partition and save the large files to your home, that way fresh installs are much simpler and result is less data loss.
[23:21] <m45h> OMG i made a mistake while installing Ubuntu it asked if i want to install other software because i was installling the basic Ubuntu Lucid and only th ecore apps were getting installing i accidently said no but i want to install the 2D/3D suite ect anywhere of going back
[23:21] <sebsebseb> mrwes: he has 26GB / and a seperate /home.  so yes quite a lot of GB's that will now end up being used for nothing
[23:21] <mrwes> sebsebseb, ahh k
[23:22] <unknownfear> Slart: :D
[23:22] <Agu10> SwedeMike: oh I see
[23:22] <Agu10> SwedeMike: but how do I close the X session and change to console mode, and then restart the X session ?
[23:22] <GeekSquid> m45h: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:22] <SwedeMike> Agu10: service gdm stop
[23:22] <m45h> im installing Ubuntu on laptop
[23:23] <GeekSquid> m45h: that's right, the desktop is the GUI, what you want?
[23:23] <ohir> sebsebseb: mkdir /archive and it can be used :)
[23:23] <Agu10> SwedeMike: but then how do I start it again? service gdm start?
[23:23] <DCGstudios> m45h, im assuming you have nothing you want on that partition or you have it backed up, so simply reinstall.
[23:23] <SwedeMike> Agu10: yes.
[23:23] <Agu10> good
[23:24] <TonyV> SwedeMike: Hey, I found the answer to the SSD problem!
[23:24] <SwedeMike> TonyV: what was it?
[23:24] <Hagus> ty for the link greezmunkey :)  I have bookmarked it for future reference.
[23:24] <sebsebseb> DCGstudios: They left so  well: Those apps are propritary  that he wants to use yeah? I don't use that stuff.  I guess the moral of the story is,  if they are going to run propritary junk,  suggest at least 20GB for /  plus the seperate /home
[23:25] <TonyV> SwedeMike: I posted a thread on it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1484448
[23:25] <TonyV> SwedeMike: Nutshell version: sudo dmraid -r -E /dev/sda
[23:25] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb, yea im not sure exactly what 10.04 was, i think around 14GB.. so that plus around the 16 from commercial apps, is around 30GB. And its always good to give a bit of padding in my opinion.
[23:25] <TonyV> SwedeMike: Apparently, I had some kind of RAID metadata lingering on the disk.
[23:25] <SwedeMike> TonyV: ah, so it was ICH raid superblock that did it...
[23:25] <n0mad> is the command "route flush" safe?
[23:26] <sebsebseb> DCGstudios: clean install of Ubuntu is about 1GB.   What you mean a bit of padding?
[23:26] <TonyV> SwedeMike: Whatever ICH raid superblock is, yeah, I guess that was it.  *does happy dance...*
[23:26] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb, 1 GB? im pretty sure thats not accurate at all.
[23:26] <mrwes> sebsebseb, hehe
[23:26] <Gartral> hey all, i got a Dell Latitude 9100, with radeon mobility 9700, ATI-opensource drivers will not work, hardware drivers doesnt show a driver.. i've tried the mesa-dri driver with no avial as well
[23:26] <sebsebseb> DCGstudios: I am rather sure
[23:26] <SwedeMike> TonyV: it's the thing the raid controller writes to the drive to keep track of it.
[23:26]  * Slart 's install uses 6GB.. 
[23:26] <sebsebseb> DCGstudios: since I have installed Ubuntu  quite a lot of times pshyically, but also into vm's
[23:26] <SwedeMike> I'm using 4.5 gigs on / out of my 10 gigs
[23:27] <rootlinuxusr> There a fix yet for the display rate/wobbly lines x11 error from 9.10/10.04 upgrade?
[23:27] <nico__> hello world
[23:27] <rootlinuxusr> for external monitors
[23:27]  * Gartral crammed an ubuntu installation into 4 gigs
[23:27] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb, yea i think i recall it recommending 6gb
[23:27] <n0mad> is the command "route flush" safe?
[23:27] <TonyV> SwedeMike: Now comes the fun part...  Getting my mirrored drives connected back without wiping anything out.  Who wants to put bets on how careful I am?  :)
[23:27] <sebsebseb> DCGstudios: and people can install Ubuntu Desktop onto 4GB net books as well
[23:28] <SwedeMike> TonyV:  you need to change back the bios setting anyway
[23:28] <Slart> n0mad: doesn't it clear all the routes? I think those will be recreated when you get a new ip from your dhcp server..
[23:28] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb, yea.. but remember hes running commerical applications.. upgrades, temporary files, and needs for new applications all require more space. hence the "padding" for long term use.
[23:28] <Gartral> n0mad: not unless you feel like resetting up your network
[23:28] <Slart> n0mad: at least I've never had to edit my routes manually on any ubuntu installation I've done so far
[23:28] <nico__> a friend of me gave me a binary file to execute, but i don't thrust it, is it safe to create a user, run the executable, and delete the user after that ?
[23:29] <Slart> n0mad: you might lose internet connectivity momentarily though
[23:29] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/433990/    pzl sone one help me with that error massge
[23:29] <TonyV> SwedeMike: Well, I'm going to head out, my laptop battery is almost dead.  Thanks again for the assist.  Hopefully someday soon I'll be able to hang out here and dole out answers instead of leeching.  ;)
[23:29] <SwedeMike> nico__: relatively simple.
[23:29] <Slart> nico__: I would say that it's never safe to run potentially nasty binaries
[23:29] <sebsebseb> DCGstudios: right yeah, which is why I sent you my moral of the story message.  However what I said about 10GB  being good in general for / with seperate home,  is true, for most of us.
[23:29] <Slart> nico__: If I had to .. I would use a vm instead
[23:29] <Gartral> nico__: if you don't trust it, run it in a vm first!
[23:29] <SwedeMike> Matr|X: dude, you're never going to get help if you don't provide more information.
[23:30] <mrwes> sebsebseb, worked for me for the last 5 years
[23:30] <sebsebseb> mrwes: :)
[23:30] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/433990/    pzl sone one help me with that error massge
[23:30] <DCGstudios> sebsebseb, yea its never too hard to adjust your partitions either.. although it does rarley mess up and lose / corrupt some data..
[23:30] <Slart> !details | Matr|X
[23:30] <myrl> what program can i use that recognizes speech and turns it into words in openoffice and/or abiword
[23:30] <mrwes> sebsebseb, and I'm a videophile
[23:30] <Agu10> hey
[23:30] <Slart> myrl: I don't think there is one
[23:30] <myrl> oh ok
[23:31] <sebsebseb> DCGstudios: exactly re sizing partitions it's rare, but could cause data loss for example
[23:31] <Agu10> I think nvidia's driver for ubuntu just sucks!
[23:31] <nico__> thank Slart and Gartral, are you talking about something like virtualbox ?
[23:31] <sebsebseb> Agu10: Why?
[23:31] <Slart> nico__: yes
[23:31] <Agu10> it doesn't install. I've tried 3 ways
[23:31] <nix0r> ok - i have a question. im running the latest 10.4 ubuntu and i finally got my restricted driver (wireless card) installed. but the light isnt blinking and my wpa wireless wont connect to my linux box, is there anything im  missing other than getting the driver up and setting options in the network area?
[23:31] <Agu10> or more
[23:31] <mrwes> Agu10, tell them that
[23:31] <Slart> !vm | nico__
[23:31] <Agu10> mrwes: don't think so
[23:31] <Chymera> hi, do any of you know of any programs which I can use under linux to get high quality graphics - like the ones one would need for scientific publications? I have a few series of measurements and I need something that can calculate variance significance and so on - and integrate that into the graph as an error bar or smth
[23:31] <Agu10> mrwes: don't think they give support for free :S
[23:31] <Slart> nico__: installing virtualbox and installing a fresh ubuntu vm shouldn't take more than 20 minutes or so.. then you can run your binary and then delete the virtual machine
[23:32] <myrl> slart isnt there a program thats like windows speech recognition?
[23:32] <SwedeMike> Chymera: gnuplot ?
[23:32] <Agu10> sebsebseb: can't install nvidia drivers in ubuntu. I've tried in many ways
[23:32] <Guest39582> whoami
[23:32] <mrwes> Agu10, uh? I'm sure the driver is open source and therefore free, even if it sucks
[23:32] <qkslvrwolf> ok, so rc.local isn't going to work for me
[23:32] <Agu10> I always get some error
[23:32] <m45h>  i installed Ubuntu don my laptop but for some reason it Command Line theres no GUI
[23:32] <m45h> :|
[23:32] <qkslvrwolf> because the network I need to query is wireless
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Agu10: which version?
[23:32] <qkslvrwolf> and it only connects after I login.
[23:32] <Slart> myrl: not that I know of.. last time I played with the windows speech recognition it was pretty crappy as well.. might have improved since then though
[23:32] <m45h> im screwed
[23:32] <Agu10> mrwes: open source ? from nvidia?
[23:32] <GeekSquid> m45h: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:32] <Chymera> SwedeMike: poor fitting and no antialias http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/demo_4.2/mgr.html so much for high quality :(
[23:33] <Slart> myrl: as far as I know we're pretty far away from computers that understand what we say
[23:33] <EzeQL> how can i setup a cronjob for running each 5 minutes?
[23:33] <myrl> slart lol
[23:33] <myrl> slart ok
[23:33] <Agu10> sebsebseb: ubuntu 10.04, nvidia linux x86 195.36.24 pkg1
[23:33] <morbo1993> Does someone know if it's possible for me to remotely controll my the spotify on my windows pc with this ubuntu pc?
[23:33] <sebsebseb> myrl: as far as I know voice recognition software is slowly getting there
[23:33] <sebsebseb> !vnc > morbo1993
[23:33] <Slart> Chymera: tried pyxplot?
[23:33] <GeekSquid> morbo1993: teamviewer.com
[23:34] <SwedeMike> EzeQL: read up on crontab
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Agu10: ok first of all
[23:34] <SwedeMike> Agu10: you can't install nvidia drivers from their website in 10.04.
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Agu10: you don't get from the Nivida website
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Agu10: only as a last resort
[23:34] <Agu10> :@
[23:34] <sebsebseb> SwedeMike: you can't get from website for 10.04?
[23:34] <Agu10> I tried other ways, sebsebseb
[23:34] <morbo1993> GeekSquid, yeah that would work except i dont want the entire desktop sharing. i just want to controll spotify while i play fullscreen games :)
[23:34] <Slart> Chymera: also.. use gnuplot to export to vector graphics.. then the anti-aliasing will be taken care of in the renderer that renders the document later.. it's always looked very nice when combining it with lyx or latex
[23:34] <SwedeMike> sebsebseb: it was in the errata for 10.04
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Agu10: sytem > administration > hardware drivers
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Agu10: that should work
[23:35] <sebsebseb> SwedeMike: the errata?
[23:35] <Agu10> sebsebseb: tried that! it doesn't work at all
[23:35] <Gartral> nico__: vbox would be kinda extreame... but yes, that would work
[23:35] <SwedeMike> sebsebseb: release notes.
[23:35] <sebsebseb> SwedeMike: oh
[23:35] <sebsebseb> SwedeMike: Why?
[23:35] <onetinsoldier> Chymera: i don't know anything about that stuff. but maybe you're looking for Tex and LaTeX type packages?
[23:35]  * h00ked_ is away: sleeping
[23:35] <Gartral> hey all, i got a Dell Latitude 9100, with radeon mobility 9700, ATI-opensource drivers will not work, hardware drivers doesnt show a driver.. i've tried the mesa-dri driver with no avial as well
[23:35] <sebsebseb> !notes | sebsebseb
[23:35] <om> mirror man
[23:36] <Agu10> sebsebseb: I get some error saying installArchive() failed
[23:36] <Matr|X> here u go all my problem detils
[23:36] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/434069/
[23:36] <SwedeMike> sebsebseb: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004#Incompatibility%20with%20nVidia%20upstream%20driver%20installer
[23:36] <sebsebseb> Agu10: Nivida is a bit bad in 10.04  not just, becasue of your issue though
[23:36] <Agu10> sebsebseb: I have it active, but it's not in use, that's what hardware drivers says...
[23:36] <Chymera> onetinsoldier: I can't really draw graphs in latex, I can only include them
[23:36] <onetinsoldier> Chymera: oh, i see. sorry
[23:37] <harjot> anyone know of any virtual pianos for ubuntu?
[23:37] <nico__> Slart Gatral > running a vm may be problematic because resources of my computer are very low, is there any kind of software that can inspect binary and tell if it potentially does something nasty ?
[23:37] <dread> hmm
[23:37] <syme> what do I do to fix a "Could not download all repository indexes" error when trying to update?
[23:37] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/434069/
[23:37] <Agu10> sebsebseb: is there a way to install nvidia drivers on 10.04 then?
[23:37] <sebsebseb> !nivida | Agu10
[23:37] <Slart> nico__: well.. there's clam antivirus.. but that mostly looks for windows viruses
[23:37] <sebsebseb> !nvidia | Agu10
[23:37] <onetinsoldier> Chymera: about about latexdraw?
[23:37] <Matr|X> Slart  http://paste.ubuntu.com/434069/
[23:37] <onetinsoldier> !info latexdraw | Chymera
[23:38] <Matr|X> eny help plz
[23:38] <Slart> Matr|X: yup.. reading it now
[23:38] <Matr|X> ok
[23:38] <Matr|X> thx you so much slart
[23:38] <rootlinuxusr> anyone have any luck configuring a logitech chillstream controller?
[23:38] <sebsebseb> Agu10: If you succesfully install the Nivida propritary driver into 10.04, well your boot up  will probably mess up big time
[23:38] <ConfusedGirl> hej! någon svenneballe här inne?
[23:39] <sebsebseb> Agu10: since the propritary driver doesn't work properly with the new boot up.  that's what I meant about there being another issue as well
[23:39] <Slart> sebsebseb: the binary driver works ok on my machine.. although the boot up logo thing is low resolution..
[23:39] <Slart> !se | ConfusedGirl
[23:39] <Gartral> nico__: qemu can make a virtual machine that sits in 20 mb
[23:39] <Agu10> sebsebseb: I don't care that much about that... I can't even make 3d run :S
[23:39] <n0mad> Slart, so it wouldn't reconnect to the internet until my ip issued me a new IP? what if it issues me the same IP again?
[23:39] <sebsebseb> Slart: there's a way to  get it using the open source driver for the boot up only, I was given a link, but  I haven't tried yet.  also quit easy to get it showing in text mode instead
[23:40] <Gartral> Agu10: im in the same boat, need drivers for ati radeon 9700
[23:40] <sebsebseb> Agu10: right well you would care about this other issue afterwoulds I expect, if you were successful in getting it to work
[23:40] <l0rd_hex> how can I add another OS to my grub menu?
[23:40] <l0rd_hex> I'm using 10.04 on amd64
[23:40] <Matr|X> Slart
[23:40] <sebsebseb> Agu10: Gartral Tried Ubuntu 9.10?
[23:40] <Matr|X> plz help me
[23:40] <l0rd_hex> the other OS is OpenBSD
[23:40] <rootlinuxusr> http://pastebin.com/mJNrKqPy dmesg reports this for logitech chillstream. how can i get this game controller working?
[23:40] <SwedeMike> !grub2 | l0rd_hex
[23:40] <Slart> n0mad: I'm not sure.. but I think the routes are reconfigured when your ip is renewed..  but if it doesn't all you have to do it reboot.. or just disable the network and re-enable it
[23:40] <l0rd_hex> SwedeMike: thanks
[23:40] <Agu10> sebsebseb: :-(
[23:41] <Gartral> sebsebseb: 9.10 doesnt boot on this laptop... keeps kernal panicing
[23:41] <n0mad> thnks
[23:41] <sebsebseb> Agu10: Why?
[23:41] <sebsebseb> Gartral: Try another distro? Loads of good ones to choose from :)
[23:41] <Agu10> sebsebseb: I have to install another version now?
[23:41] <Slart> Matr|X: from what I can tell it looks like a bug in the python script.. have you tried googling for that error message?
[23:41] <Agu10> what if some other driver works on 10.04 and not on 9.10 ?
[23:41] <Agu10> ...
[23:41] <EzeQL> SwedeMike , was a lazzy question. :)
[23:41] <sebsebseb> Agu10: yeah maybe so, unless you want to mess around loads with this, and trust me it won't be fun
[23:41] <Gartral> sebsebseb: besides, my problem is that ATI dropped support for my graphics driver... no distro is working out of the box
[23:41] <Slart> sebsebseb: ah.. that would be nice.. I had to blacklist the nouveau driver just to get the nvidia binary driver to install
[23:42] <Agu10> sebsebseb: why isn't this ubuntu a beta then?
[23:42] <Matr|X> Slart it was working so good brother yestrday
[23:42] <sebsebseb> Agu10: Agreed it's a bad LTS really
[23:42] <Matr|X> u cant tell me how i remove python and install it again
[23:42] <Matr|X> ?
[23:42] <HS^^> does people use ubuntu ?
[23:42] <sebsebseb> Agu10: on the desktop anyway
[23:42] <tertl3> I use it
[23:42] <syme> what do I do to fix a "Could not download all repository indexes" error when trying to update?
[23:42] <HS^^> for reeal or for hobby
[23:43] <HS^^> would you put ubuntu in a company
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Agu10: however
[23:43] <bazhang> HS^^, yes? do you have an actual support question?
[23:43] <tertl3> for both
[23:43] <Slart> Matr|X: I don't think reinstalling python will help.. I'm guessing the problem is with the svmap.py script
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Agu10: when it comes to ATI
[23:43] <Slart> msf: yes
[23:43] <HS^^> bazhang no im here for chat
[23:43] <Slart> sorry
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Agu10: you might have the same or simlar issue in 9.10 hrm
[23:43] <Slart> HS^^: for both
[23:43] <Agu10> sebsebseb: ati used to have bad drivers
[23:43] <Matr|X> Slart it was working so good brother yestrday
[23:43] <bazhang> HS^^, wrong channel
[23:43] <HS^^> oke oke
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Agu10: it's worth trying the Live CD at least, to see if you can install the driver on it
[23:43] <Gartral> !enter| sebsebseb
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Gartral: yep
[23:43] <tertl3> i tried fedora, but it is more for server purposes
[23:43] <bazhang> HS^^, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:43] <HS^^> bazhang what is the good channel
[23:43] <HS^^> no one is there
[23:43] <Agu10> I bought an nvidia because atis sucked at linux.
[23:43] <Agu10> but now I realize that nvidia too
[23:44] <Gartral> sebsebseb: any idea how to enable 3d accel?
[23:44] <Matr|X> Slart i download it again 100 time but the same problem it was working good yestrday
[23:44] <sebsebseb> Agu10: Nivida is great in 9.10
[23:44] <SwedeMike> Agu10: not all nvidia, it works just fine normally. I have lots of nvidia machines.
[23:44] <Slart> Matr|X: yes... a bug doesn't have to show itself every time.. it could be because you're running it at a different time of day, with different networks available, with more or less memory available or any number of weird reasons
[23:44] <markl_> Agu10: nvidia works pretty well
[23:44] <Agu10> well, I'll see if I can give it a try
[23:44] <markl_> have you tried vdpau yet?  it is amazing
[23:44] <Gartral> Agu10: ubuntu 10.04 with nvidia gtx 275
[23:44] <Hans_Henrik> markl_: Nvidia Vanta dosn't
[23:44] <flyeng4> Hoping to get some help accessing the internet through a device plugged into a laptop via usb ... anyone networking gurus?
[23:44] <Agu10> markl_: tell that to my nvidia gpu :(
[23:44] <Gartral> Agu10: and im flying here, but i want 3d on my laptop
[23:44] <SwedeMike> flyeng4: what kind of device?
[23:44] <sebsebseb> Agu10: Gartral  Well most Nivida's work well in 9.10
[23:45] <Agu10> Gartral: how did you get it to work?
[23:45] <m45h> i done sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop it downloaded and installed some stuff now stuck on a black screen :| any idea anyone?
[23:45] <running_rabbit07> My nvidia hate Lucid also
[23:45] <flyeng4> a beagleboard (beagleboard.org)
[23:45] <sebsebseb> running_rabbit07: what's the issue?
[23:45] <markl_> Hans_Henrik: what is a vanta?
[23:45] <Gartral> sebsebseb: same with 10.04, can we get back to my issue? how do i get my laptop working with 3d?
[23:45] <SwedeMike> my nvidia 8400/9400 I have tried with worked just fine with 10.04
[23:45] <Slart> m45h: can you get to a command line? Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[23:45] <sebsebseb> Gartral: you need propritary driver installed for ATI or Nivida before you can 3D
[23:45] <running_rabbit07> I am not even bothering with trying to fix it
[23:45] <running_rabbit07> thanx anyway
[23:45] <sebsebseb> running_rabbit07: ok so you gone back to 9.10 or?
[23:46] <running_rabbit07> nope
[23:46] <flyeng4> SwedeMike: I have a full running 2.6.32 kernel and angstrom as the os.  just need general help with usb networking and no one is on debian (debian is my host laptop)
[23:46] <sebsebseb> running_rabbit07: Windows? :(
[23:46] <m45h> Slart: looks like its still installing the desktop
[23:46] <SwedeMike> flyeng4: so what is your question?
[23:46] <Gartral> sebsebseb: ATI 9700 has no propiratary drivers.. ATI dropped support..
[23:46] <running_rabbit07> just living with nouvou or whatever it is called until a kernel comes out fixing it
[23:46] <SwedeMike> flyeng4: usb networking btw? never heard that term, it's usually an ethernet emulation over usb
[23:46] <sebsebseb> Gartral: ATI are known to suck big time, when it comes to Linux support
[23:47] <Hans_Henrik> markl_: its a series of grapic-cards produced in the early 2000, works in jaunty, but support dropped from there on it seems
[23:47] <Agu10> well, I always have more bugs in ubuntu than in windows XP
[23:47] <running_rabbit07> every time I install a driver then restart, the driver is deactivated
[23:47] <SwedeMike> out of nvidia, intel, ati and via, nvidia is the one that works best.
[23:47] <Agu10> that's a bad reputation I think, LOL
[23:47] <nico__> m45h> what happen if you ctrl-alt F7 ?
[23:47] <Gartral> sebsebseb: no shit, lets stop beating dead horses and focus on a solution please. HOW do I get 3d without crap drivers
[23:47] <SwedeMike> Gartral: you don't.
[23:47] <Agu10> Gartral: install drivers!
[23:47] <sebsebseb> Gartral: however I was told that they are working on a new driver, (which driver, no idea) that it seems will fix a lot of issues.
[23:47] <markl_> Hans_Henrik: ah ok
[23:48] <Agu10> Gartral: or maybe software 3d ?
[23:48] <flyeng4> SwedeMike: Ok, sorry for my ignorance.  ( new to this)  I have the device plugged in and I am stuck there.  There are some instructions here http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners#Connect_with_your_beagleboard_using_VNC_and_ethernet_over_USB but I am unable to "see" the internet.
[23:48] <m45h> nice_: it looks like its still installing Ubuntu-desktop i see some suttff selecting anf unpacking
[23:48] <sebsebseb> Gartral: you can't
[23:48] <sebsebseb> Gartral: at the moment since noveu or whatever it's called the open source driver for Nivida and I think ATI as well,  isn't good enough for 3D
[23:48] <Gartral> Agu10 sebsebseb SwedeMike Software, Hardware, External, i dont care, i want 3d
[23:48] <nico__> m45h,oh ok, so i guess you have to wait :)
[23:48] <Agu10> sebsebseb: can get 3d only with official drivers? no software 3d ?
[23:48] <flyeng4> SwedeMike: for instance ping google.com doesn't work or ping 192.168.1.4 (which is my local for my laptop) doessnt work
[23:48] <SwedeMike> flyeng4: does it even show up in ifconfig ?
[23:49] <sebsebseb> Gartral: you need ATI driver for 3D at the moment
[23:49] <lengend> can i put ubuntu on a usb stick to install? or install the kernel?
[23:49] <SwedeMike> Gartral: then you have to intsall the proprietary drivers, that is your ONLY option.
[23:49] <Agu10> Gartral: wtf? no software 3d ?
[23:49] <m45h> lengend: Yes you can
[23:49] <bazhang> lengend, sure, with unetbootin
[23:49] <Matr|X> Slart so wht im gonna do
[23:49] <Agu10> SwedeMike: no software 3d ?
[23:49] <notelofumes> hi
[23:49] <sebsebseb> Agu10: yes offical ATI driver and you got 3D,  if you don't have that, well good luck
[23:49] <SwedeMike> Agu10: not as far as I know.
[23:49] <lengend> Ok cause my kernel is missing and i can't even boot into ubuntu, only gnu grub 1.97 beta4
[23:49] <Slart> Matr|X: no google hits for that error message?
[23:49] <Matr|X> yes
[23:49] <onetinsoldier> notelofumes: hi
[23:50] <Agu10> oh...
[23:50] <sebsebseb> !ati | Agu10
[23:50] <Gartral> SwedeMike: for fucking gods sake im sick of repeating this: ATI DROPPED SOPPRT FOR THIS CARD
[23:50] <Matr|X> Slart http://www.mail-archive.com/tmda-users@tmda.net/msg01520.html
[23:50] <sebsebseb> Agu10: if your having a load of issues getting it working in 10.04,  try 9.10 as I suggested
[23:50] <SwedeMike> Gartral: then YOU ARE OUT OF LUCK!
[23:50] <bazhang> Gartral, watch the language
[23:50] <Agu10> sebsebseb: ok
[23:50] <notelofumes> How I could move a window to another work area from an script?
[23:50] <Agu10> thanks
[23:51] <gridbag> other than "xhost +", what do I need to do so I can run remote X11 programs pointing to my ubuntu machine?  xterm --display=10.0.0.25:0 isn't working.
[23:51] <Gartral> bazhang: i swear when im forced to repeat myself for the 18th time
[23:51] <sebsebseb> Agu10: also sometimes other distro's work better for these kind of things,  but  probably not quite for ATI
[23:51] <flyeng4> SwedeMike: it's supposed to show up as usb0 i think but I don't see it.  Take a look at http://pastebin.com/Cai9FghP for my ifconfig on device and host
[23:51] <sebsebseb> !volunter | Gartral
[23:51] <SwedeMike> Gartral: if there are no binary drivers for your card, then you have ZERO options, what is so hard to understand?
[23:51] <Agu10> sebsebseb: I want ubuntu :(
[23:51] <m45h> can i disconnect the internet if its installing Ubuntu-Desktop?
[23:51] <sebsebseb> Agu10: ok
[23:51] <Slart> Matr|X: hmm.. well.. that url didn't help much.. don't think it was even about the same software
[23:51]  * jdpond <--newbie here, is this channel for install problems? (10.04)
[23:51] <coz_> hey guys.. if someone could check this for me... external driver with multiple partitions... highlight all paritions on desktop ...right click.... no unmount options ??/
[23:51] <notelofumes> How I could move a window to another work area from an script?
[23:51] <imanc> ubuntu is lovely
[23:52] <ads_> hi. Anyone knows good and fast program to split video files such as mpeg and avi to bmp files?
[23:52] <sebsebseb> jdpond: you eman 10.04?  and yes for 10.04
[23:52] <imanc> but by god, flash SUCKS
[23:52] <flyeng4> actually if anyone could look at http://pastebin.com/Cai9FghP and let me know why theh beagleboard device can't see the world
[23:52] <Hans_Henrik> jdpond: that too
[23:52] <SwedeMike> flyeng4: seems your debian machine doesn't support that usb device? what does dmesg say when you connect it?
[23:52] <nico__> m45h> if it's unpacking, it has probably downloaded all what it need
[23:52] <m45h> It seems like the the downloading part hs finished now just slecting and unpacking
[23:52] <onetinsoldier> m45h: if it's already unpacking packages, then yes, i think so
[23:52] <baba_b00ie> just wondering if all the c++ int and compilers are cli in linux or is there a gtk front end?
[23:52] <m45h> nico_ thanks man
[23:52] <max101> hi
[23:52] <m45h> onestinsoldier: thanks
[23:53] <onetinsoldier> you're welcome
[23:53] <jdpond> I have not been able to do an out of the box install for Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud since 9.10.  Problem with PostFix Installation.  Is this documente d somewhere?
[23:53] <sebsebseb> Agu10: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10 so in the file is the deskop ISO which you want, but also the md5sum sha1sum and sha2sum or whatever  that is, which  you can use to check that the ISO you download is a good download
[23:53] <Hans_Henrik> baba_b00ie: try codebloks
[23:53] <midnightd> hey guys.. ubuntu 10.4 is now suddenly telling me that my wireless networks are disabled since I turned the computer on.  it was working fine yesterday.   is there a setting i can toggle on somewhere?
[23:53] <sebsebseb> Agu10: only need to md5sum really.  your on Windows right now I assume?
[23:53] <LinuX2half> why can't I seem to burn my image
[23:53] <onetinsoldier> codeblocks*
[23:53] <Slart> Matr|X: I'm sorry.. I don't think I have any solutions for you... if you know python you can check the script yourself and try to find out why it fails.. or try to get in touch with the developer
[23:53] <Oer> Ubuntu 8.10: Support dropped for ATI Mobility Radeon 9700  / rv300 chips. 11 02 2009
[23:53] <SwedeMike> midnightd: what does it show when you right-click on the network icon?
[23:53] <Agu10> sebsebseb: I'm on ubuntu 10.04
[23:53] <sebsebseb> !8.10 | Oer
[23:53] <sebsebseb> Agu10: ah right ok yeah
[23:54] <sebsebseb> Agu10: however without the driver ok
[23:54] <sebsebseb> Agu10: download the 9.10 ISO,  save it into the home folder
[23:54] <Agu10> yes
[23:54] <midnightd> swedemike: enable wireless is greyed out
[23:54] <Agu10> sebsebseb: it's gonna take more than a few seconds...
[23:54] <sebsebseb> Agu10:  then once it's finnisehd open the terminal.   and you can do md5sum nameofisogoeshere  and check on the website that the code is the same.  you can do an sha1sum and sha2sum in the same way if you want as well
[23:54] <SwedeMike> midnightd: sure you didn't hit the wireless disable switch on the computer? I've done that mistake a couple of times... it's usually on the side of the computer.
[23:54] <LinuX2half> here's the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/434076/
[23:55] <sebsebseb> Agu10: that's ok
[23:55] <Agu10> sebsebseb: ok, thanks
[23:55] <LinuX2half> I try to burn an image and brasero acted like there's an error occuring
[23:55] <flyeng4> SwedeMike: I remember reading something about device mode and host mode.  Do you have any pointers to good documentation?  General documentaion.  I am obviously ignorant and need to do some reading.
[23:55] <Agu10> sebsebseb: I'm running from a usb-stick
[23:55] <sebsebseb> Agu10: if your lucky you can install the driver into 9.10 without a problem
[23:55] <midnightd> swedemike:  so have I.  :)  that was the first thing I checked.  besides my little wifi light is on
[23:55] <LinuX2half> I can't seem to find any error with the log
[23:55] <SwedeMike> flyeng4: nope, sorry, I know networking, but not much about usb
[23:55] <sebsebseb> Agu10: ok well,  before you put the ISO onto USB stick, check it :)
[23:55] <Agu10> sebsebseb: I think I'll have to make the live USB again?
[23:55] <LinuX2half> except that it only listed something error without any reason why.
[23:55] <SwedeMike> flyeng4: or rather, I would know what to do as soon as you get the usb device showing in ifconfig
[23:55] <Guest22693> hi guys, nmap reports an http service on port 80 on the localhost. How do stop this process?
[23:55] <Agu10> can't upgrade, can I ? sebsebseb
[23:55] <sebsebseb> Agu10: yes, but with 9.10
[23:55] <LinuX2half> Does anyone have a clue to this issue?
[23:55] <sebsebseb> Agu10: no 9.10 is the previous version
[23:55] <max101> LinuX2half : why don't you use K3B instead.
[23:56] <Agu10> sebsebseb: oh, right
[23:56] <LinuX2half> why?
[23:56] <sebsebseb> Agu10: and you can't just downgrade to it either
[23:56] <SwedeMike> midnightd: check dmesg output and see if you can find something there related to wireless
[23:56] <sebsebseb> !downgrade | Agu10
[23:56] <LinuX2half> max101: is there a difference between the two softwares?
[23:56] <flyeng4> SwedeMike: Ok atleast I have a goal.  I will make sure I get a device and then will return.
[23:56] <Reign25> Hey everyone. I have a question and a dire situation with Ubuntu I've bee facing for a few days now. If anyone wouldn't mind helping me, that would be great. -- I installed Ubuntu on a laptop to the hard drive and the internet, wireless or wired, doesn't work. I also installed Xubuntu on another laptop and same situation. I'm desperate at this point. Any ideas?
[23:56] <sebsebseb> Agu10: you would have to clean install. so what I suggest is making a bootable USB stick of 9.10, then try installing the driver on that
[23:56] <max101> LinuX2half : yes
[23:56] <LinuX2half> Alternatively I've used GnomeBaker and that doesn't work as well
[23:56] <sebsebseb> Agu10: if it installs no problem on there.  then an install should be fine as well
[23:56] <Agu10> sebsebseb: ok, thank you
[23:56] <LinuX2half> Oh? Then whats the difference?
[23:56] <acerimmer> Reign25: what wifi card do  u have
[23:56] <philw> flyeng4, does the device register properly? unplug, replug and loog at the output of dmesg
[23:56] <coz_> is anyone running lucid  who can attach an external drive with multiple partitions on it?
[23:57] <SwedeMike> Reign25: "doesn't work" is not really a technical description, you need to be more precise.
[23:57] <sebsebseb> !usb | Agu10
[23:57] <Gartral> coz_: yea, what ya seeing?
[23:57] <LinuX2half> Whats the difference between Brasero and K3B?
[23:57] <sebsebseb> Agu10: is Ubuntu 10.04 your first version of Ubuntu?  Your first Linux distro?
[23:57] <Reign25> acerimmer: One laptop has a broadcom based wireless dell card and another an Orinoco
[23:57] <coz_> Gartral,  ok  on the desktop should be the separate partition icons  visible... if you highlight all of them and right click   is there an unmount option?? there has been none here since release and this is clean install
[23:58] <sebsebseb> LinuX2half: Brasero is basic and written for Gnome and comes in Ubuntu.   K3B is better really,  and a KDE app. that you can also run in Ubuntu/Gnome
[23:58] <Gartral> LinuX2half: one uses qt4, the other gtk, they're both frontends too dcrtools
[23:58] <Agu10> sebsebseb: nope. I used 8.10, 9.10 I thik
[23:58] <Reign25> SwedeMike: Error shows "wireless disconnected - you are now offline" and same for wired.
[23:58] <Agu10> 'think
[23:58] <acerimmer> Reign25: there it is.  broadcom 43XX takes a bit of work to set up.  are u on wired at the moment?
[23:58] <midnightd> swedemike:  the only thing remotely related is: "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready"
[23:58] <LinuX2half> Hm, so its basic enough to burn a disk correct?
[23:58] <sebsebseb> Agu10: 8.10 is :) however sadly went end of life on 30th April, no more security updates
[23:59] <SwedeMike> midnightd: well, that is wired and not wireless. do you have any wlan0 in ifconfig ?
[23:59] <max101> LinuX2half : Try it.
[23:59] <Reign25> acerimmer: I saw that, but wired isn't working either.
[23:59] <Agu10> sebsebseb: I usually get more bugs at ubuntu, than in windows XP
[23:59] <LinuX2half> Hm? Try what?
[23:59] <Agu10> many more
[23:59] <midnightd> swedemike: nope.
[23:59] <syme> what do I do to fix a "Could not download all repository indexes" error when trying to update?
[23:59] <flyeng4> philw: The device gets power from the laptop. I am not sure how to tell if the board is letting itself be a device instead of a host.
[23:59] <Agu10> sebsebseb: that's too bad of a reputation for it then . LOL
[23:59] <acerimmer> Reign25: OK.  asssuming that you have a bcm43XX chipset here's what u do.
[23:59] <sebsebseb> Agu10: a lot of the issues people get with Ubuntu, aren't it's fault though