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BuddhaDoes anyone here use Lucid Lynx netbood edition and if so, does it work well?00:01
BuddhaI have Win 7 starter on this netbook I just bought and want to dual boot and test out this new netbook version of kubuntu00:02
e_t_Buddha: I used 9.10 KNE, and it worked quite well. I suspect Lucid is an improvement, though I haven't personally tested it.00:19
BuddhaIs the only real difference from the standard distro that it is more suited for smaller resolutions?00:20
BuddhaThe site only mentions that as the difference00:20
e_t_The gui is pretty radically different. That is part of what makes it suitable for lower resolutions.00:20
BuddhaWould it be difficult to dual boot with that and windows, and to remove it later if I didn't like it? Being that I have a netbook, my copy of Win7 is not on CD or anything, so if something breaks and I have to remove linux, windows has to stay intact00:24
Buddhano way to reinstall it lol00:24
BuddhaI know I can dual boot easily on desktop00:24
Buddhabut not sure about a netbook00:24
e_t_Personally, I wouldn't shed any tears over the loss of 7 starter. It's pretty crippled (on purpose). You can't even change the desktop wallpaper.00:25
BuddhaYeah I know what you mean, it's pathetic. I had to install a third party agent to change the wallpaper.00:26
BuddhaI've just had issues int he past with getting wireless and things to work on linux00:26
BuddhaI didn't want to mess up my backup plan.00:26
e_t_Put the netbook iso on a USB drive with unetbootin or the USB image writer. Then you can boot up the live environment and see if everything works, without installing anything.00:27
avihay I had to install a third party agent to change the wallpaper. now that's progress for ya00:28
e_t_As I said, it's crippled on purpose, to encourage you to buy ($$$) a higher version of Windows. I think it could be great marketing for Linux.00:30
BuddhaThose two things you mentioned, where would I find them?00:30
nerdy_kidanyone noticed that the context menu for dolphin is slow?00:30
e_t_Are you running (K)Ubuntu on a computer now?00:31
BuddhaYeah, Windows 7 Starter is completely useless.00:31
BuddhaNo, not at the moment.00:31
BuddhaAll I have is this netbook00:31
BuddhaDesktop is out of commission00:31
e_t_Do a google search for unetbootin. It's a program for both Linux and Windows that lets you put ISO images onto USB drives and makes them bootable. Just add your own ISO image (i.e. kubuntu netbook) and go.00:33
poyntzplasma-desktop stuffed up on the lucid upgrade00:59
poyntzso i installed some thing called kde-netbook00:59
poyntzwhich gave me an interface00:59
poyntzbut i can't customize or change anything00:59
poyntzhow can I fix this?00:59
poyntzdid plasma desktop stuff up for anyone else when they upraded?01:24
harjothow do i get midi working on my laptop01:28
harjot?01:28
harjotpoyntz: plasma didnt even installed when i upgraded01:28
PeterDropany idea why pulseaudio crachme a lot my pc?01:30
poyntzharjot, i01:33
poyntzharjot: i'm confused cause I can't customize anymore01:33
poyntzharjot: for instance I can't add an application launcher to the menu01:33
harjotthats cause its netbook01:34
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poyntzso is netbook the new plasma-destop?01:34
harjotinstall the full lucid from a cd01:35
harjotit will work01:35
harjotpoyntz: my kubuntu upgrade was completely messed up01:35
harjotno01:35
harjotits a skimmed down version of kubuntu01:35
harjotnetbook kubuntu is the distribution your on?01:36
poyntzi think so01:36
poyntzplasma acquired a bug after upgrade01:37
poyntzso i installed plasma-netbook and kubuntu-netbook01:37
poyntzwhich gives me access to a limited GUI01:37
harjotthatss netbook version of everything01:37
poyntzahh k01:37
harjotJust reinstall from scratch01:37
poyntz:/01:37
harjotlucid has upgrading problems01:37
poyntzcould I uninstall and reinstall kubuntu-deskto01:38
poyntzwould that work?01:38
jensokopoyntz someone on kubuntuforums did that  here http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107594.001:38
jensokoI can't get my netbook to start kde in either netbook or full01:38
jensokomy iso of 10.04 is a few days old. Does anyone know if they change the isos when they fix bugs?01:40
Typos_Kingdunno, I'd expect it so01:40
DarthFrogNope.01:40
DarthFrogUnless they make an official point release.01:41
DarthFrogThe bug fixes will be available via the software updates.01:41
jensokoDarthFrog So...in theory, if my install or upgrade of kubuntu 10.04 hung after login, if I could log in at a command line terminal, I could do a sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and get those bug fixes?01:43
DarthFrogYes01:43
DarthFrogAnd instead of logging in, press Ctl-Alt-F1 to get a terminal.01:44
shadertestA better idea would be to install gentoo01:44
poyntzjensoko: thanks for the link but it wasn't relevant to my concern :/01:45
DarthFrogGentoo?  Spend the next month compiling your system. :-)01:45
bazhangshadertest, that's not helpful01:45
jensokoDarthFrog, Thank You! my Thinkpad x100e can run ubuntu 10.04 from the bootable usb liveCD, and I successfully used the usb liveCD to install kubuntu 9.10, but 9.10 is doing weird things with the video drivers, and the wireless is nonexistent. I would love to have a working kubuntu 10.04 on my netbook. This may be the way.01:47
DarthFrogjensoko: Good luck.01:47
jensokopoyntz: sorry about that--I thought it might help. I'm looking to do something similar--if I have to take a few extra steps to get kde and 10.04, it'll be worth it if it works01:48
poyntzok. off a hunch it could be something to do with some of the widgets we have installed being not compatible with the latest version (highly likely as this bug often results)01:49
poyntzgonna reboot. see what happens..01:51
anirudh24sevenwill there be any problems if i directly upgrade from karmic to lucid ?02:22
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DarthFroganirudh24seven: Perhaps.  That's the best answer that can be given.02:33
DarthFrogLikely not, though, if Karmic is running well.02:34
anirudh24sevenoh... i'm having a few minor problems with lucid as i upgraded directly... my friends told me later that it is better to reinstall it seperately02:42
shadertestI suggest you install gentoo02:44
islingtonanyone in here use kget?02:44
islingtonopinions on kget?02:45
DarthFrogshadertest: Why are you in a Kubuntu support channel promoting Gentoo?  I do agree that Gentoo is a fine Linux distribution for experts and suggest that your efforts would be both more rewarding and more appreciated if you expended them in a Gentoo support channel.03:01
chelzi remember when KDE4 just came out it was said that the release was to get it in the hands of developers, were there any follow up posts from devs after following releases if one of those releases is meant for users?03:08
DarthFrogchelz: The current release 4.4.3 is pretty good.03:13
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InvaderZimThese last days I'm experiencing some hanging issues when a program tries to open the "GTK select file dialog". I.E. in pidgin when I click on my picture to change it, it takes about 15 seconds to open the dialog while pidgin itself hangs. On Chrome happens the same thing when using the file dialog. Any ideas to fix it?03:38
InvaderZimOh and after the first hang, the subsequent dialogs don't hang. But some time later it starts again.03:39
InvaderZimkubuntu lucid03:39
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jensokoDarthFrog: epic fail. After upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04, I used the ctrl-alt-F1 to open a terminal and ran sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade and got no updates or upgrades to 10.04. My system still hangs when attempting to start services. Would I need to add a new repository to aptitude? Or is there a way I can use the command line to replace the kdesktop with gnome, because gnome seems to work fine.04:13
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DarthFrogIs the system connected to the net?04:21
DarthFrogsudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:21
DarthFrogAnd then select GNOME from the login menu.04:21
jensokoDarthFrog: It's connected via wired connection. I should be able to run that command. I am glad to find out there's a point of the problem, but sad to find out I'll not be able to use KDE. Yet. I'm hopeful though. Thank you once again!04:27
DarthFrogjensoko: You're welcome.  Good luck and have fun.04:28
jensokoGood night everyone. Hopefully some sleep will make things magically work! :)04:29
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hceasyon__hello everybody06:11
moetunes!hi06:12
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!06:12
SandGorgon_can i use kde wallet to store personal stuff - like bank account numbers, etc ?06:14
hceasyon__hi06:14
hceasyon__hello everyone06:14
mostafakvdhow can I connect to a windows server?07:02
hceasyon__BOX07:05
hceasyon__use BOX to make a WINDOWS07:05
hceasyon__then connect it07:05
mostafakvdhceasyon__: Excuse me for being late ! what is BOX sir?07:08
hceasyon__VM07:08
vadi01guys got a big problem. in kde non of my shortcut keys work...in gnome they all work automatically. any idea how to solve this?07:11
DarthFrogThat's a big problem?  Hmm.  more what I'd call a minor nuisance.07:11
vadi01DarthFrog, ok a nuisance is a problem:((( anyway to get rid of it?07:12
DarthFrogProbably.  And probably easily, too.  But I haven't a clue how to do so, don't use keyboard shortcuts myself.07:13
mostafakvdhceasyon__: u mean Virtual Box or Virtual Machine?07:14
hceasyon__yse07:14
hceasyon__yes07:14
bazhanghceasyon__, try #vbox07:17
mostafakvdbazhang: I can ping a windows system but the windows can't ping me what is the problem plz07:20
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zusis there a channel for pidgin?08:42
rorkzus: #pidgin but you need to be authenticated to join there08:44
zushow do i do that?08:45
moetunes!register08:45
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode08:45
zusim registered at freenode08:45
zusi just dont know all the channels08:46
moetunesif you're registered you'll be fine in #pidgin08:46
ForgeAusis it just me or is UNIX itself fairly much dead? too much infighting about who owns it novel SCO, etc... ??? which makes it more like Unix is dead, long live Linux? ...09:03
ForgeAus(unless you consider BSD Unix but even that is like linux a derivative)09:03
tsimpsonBSD is not a Linux derivative, but BSD and Linux are Unix derivatives09:07
ForgeAustsimpson right, but thats not what I said... I said BSD was a derivative of Unix (if you read it right)09:09
tsimpsonForgeAus: you're right, that 'a' must have jumped in my head09:10
ForgeAuswhich means we both agree :)09:10
ForgeAuswell I probably should have had a comma before it...09:11
ForgeAuslike linux, a derivative (or even a hyphen )09:11
moetunesI thought mr torvalds wanted a mips kernel for home and linux was born09:13
ForgeAusits kinda a shame Unix is dying the way it is, providing open source to linux could have been interesting for stuff like CDE and even the X-server itself!.. to see where those things would have headed...09:13
ForgeAusinstead it got messed up with infighting novell and SCO for who actually owns it...09:13
tsimpsonwell unix was never open source09:13
ForgeAuswhich is imho silly, why can't they both just get along?09:14
tsimpsonbut open source things were developed on it09:14
tsimpsonForgeAus: because SCO is pure evil09:14
ForgeAusI mean sure theres lots of infighting among linux distros, but they all recognise its a mater of taste and that "you keep your distro I'll keep mine" kinda thing...09:14
tsimpsonlike MS, but without that much money09:14
tsimpsonSCO is not a linux distro09:14
tsimpsonSCO is just a proprietary Unix vendor09:16
ForgeAuswas, not sure they still are09:17
ForgeAus(court cases etc, novell I think got unix rights currently, I'm not sure SCO can/will still be able to sell it... )09:17
tsimpsonthey'll just get buy licenses09:18
wedohello all09:35
rorkhi wedo09:36
wedohow to use the java vm with seamonkey09:36
wedohi rork09:36
rork!java | wedo09:38
ubottuwedo: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java products search for sun-java6 -packages from the !Multiverse repository (!partner repository in Lucid)09:38
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wedoalready i installed all Sun java and open java packages but its not working with seamonkey09:39
kifcaliphhello there09:51
kifcaliphI just wanna know why I can't run kate from the root terminal09:52
kifcaliphis there anyone can help me please09:53
moetunesafaik you should be able to09:53
moetunesdoes   kdesu kate work from a normal konsole?09:54
kifcaliphhi moetunes09:54
kifcaliphthank you, but kdesu doesn't work09:55
moetuneshi kifcaliph09:55
kifcaliphI use su09:55
moetunesfor graphical stuff you should do kdesu mate09:55
moetunes!kdesu09:55
kifcaliphthen I try to run kate it returns kate: cannot connect to X server :0.009:55
ubottuIn KDE use « kdesudo <program> » (or « kdesu <program> » for Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! | See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to find out why09:55
kifcaliphwell it returns kdesu: command not found09:57
moetunesahh well try kdesudo09:58
moetuneslike the bot said09:58
kifcaliphall I need is to edit grub.cfg I used "sudo nano" it opens the file10:00
kifcaliphthank you guyz , you're very helpful10:00
moetuneskifcaliph: like I said afaik kate from root terminal "should" work10:01
moetuneswhy it doesn't...10:01
kifcaliphI'll try it and I'll give you feedback10:01
kifcaliphya it worked very well, thank you moetunes10:03
moetunesnp - what did I do to help?10:04
kifcaliphI am sorry, I am just linux user for only a month10:04
moetunesnp10:04
moetuneswe were all new to it once :]10:04
kifcaliphI was trying to edit the bloated GRUB menu it makes me carazy when I boot10:05
kifcaliphthank you10:05
moetunesluck :]10:05
zuswhen setting kmail under accounts>modify>security do i set it to ssl? or none for gmail?10:33
powerinsideKtorrent auto starts for me in kubuntu .. how to disable that?10:38
moetunespowerinside: you might have left it running when closing down one time - pick a new kde session at login10:39
Benkinoobyhi there. seem i messed up my lucid-upgrade some time ago. now i am with karmic, but i don't get chance to upgrade to lucid. update-notifier-kde says there are no upgrade to be done :( how can i fix that?10:40
moetunesdoes   sudo update-manager -d   return anything?10:41
Benkinoobymoetunes:  it just brings up the gui-update manager and shows me a gdm update (wich i set on hold on purpose)10:43
moetunesk10:44
moetunesupdated lately Benkinooby ?10:44
Benkinoobymoetunes: right now. i use aptitude.10:44
Benkinoobymoetunes: i onec saw the dist-update symbol in my menu-bar. but i aborted the upgrade.10:45
powerinsideI tried to upgrade my kubuntu 9 with ubuntu 10.04 alt CD and the install didnt go smoothly. After restart, my start screen shows "ubuntu 10.04 pixel dots like loading" and takes me to console only!! no GUI!10:45
Benkinoobymoetunes: seems, there is one conf-file that says: finished upgrade to lucid and the rest of the system is not upgraded.10:46
powerinsideHow do I get back the new kubuntu 10.04's loading + gui?10:46
Peace-so that is a driver problem powerinside10:46
moetunesBenkinooby: does   sudo aptitude full-upgrade   return anything?10:46
Peace-powerinside: your video card had some problem with the driver10:46
Benkinoobymoetunes: 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.10:47
moetunespowerinside: tried   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   ?10:47
powerinsidethats weird because in console, i typed startx and GUI loads but why not automatically.. and the shutdown and restart buttons in kdestart is missing too10:47
Benkinoobypowerinside: plesae paste your /boot/grub/menu.conf to pastebin.com10:48
moetunesBenkinooby: what is the "one conf-file that says: finished upgrade to lucid and the rest of the system is not upgraded" ?10:48
powerinsideok wait10:48
Benkinoobymoetunes: this is what i think. somehow the system "thinks" it is allready upgraded....10:48
powerinsideBenkinnooby: /boot/grub/menu.conf does not exist10:49
moetunesBenkinooby: I'm asking which file says that pls10:49
Benkinoobymoetunes: if i would know, i would change it. this is only my guess...10:49
Benkinoobymoetunes: hmmm... right now i see that there is one sources.list that has all the lucid stuff in it....10:50
moetunesBenkinooby: what does   lsb_release   return?10:50
moetunesif lsb is still used...10:50
Benkinoobymoetunes: No LSB modules are available.10:50
Benkinoobyuname -a10:51
BenkinoobyLinux box 2.6.31-21-generic #59-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 24 07:28:56 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux10:51
moetunespowerinside: it is   /boot/grub/grub.cfg10:51
moetunesBenkinooby: k - what makes you think you still have karmic?10:52
moetunesthat's a lucid kernel afaik10:53
Benkinoobymoetunes: my sources.list10:53
Benkinooby?!10:53
Benkinoobyreally?10:53
moetunesBenkinooby> moetunes: hmmm... right now i see that there is one sources.list that has all the lucid stuff in it....10:53
moetunesone sources.list?10:53
Benkinoobymoetunes: there are more... but the actual one is karmic...10:53
Benkinoobyi also have an other one with all that lynx stuff... let me make it the defaut one and see...10:54
marco___hello, are there libraries for Skype on KPackageKit? I found only a wrapper for Python and plugins for Pidgin10:54
marco___do i have to install Skype from their site?10:54
moetunesBenkinooby: seems you might need to check that - apt-cache search linux10:54
powerinsideBenkinooby: here http://pastebin.com/94wfKmsE10:55
Benkinoobymarco___: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#Installing%20Skype10:55
powerinsideand moetunes, have a look at this.. why does it ask for ubuntu cd now?? : http://i44.tinypic.com/s1t0ns.png10:56
mknightofwestHi all =)10:56
Benkinoobypowerinside: seems ok... i just wonder why you have quiet 2 times in line 6910:56
Benkinoobymoetunes: ok, there comes a lot of stuff....10:57
moetunespowerinside: you have the cd listed as an install source from the upgrade - it is normal - you need to comment it out - comment is a # - in the /etc/ap/sources.list file10:57
moetunesBenkinooby: looks like you're upgrading?10:58
Benkinoobymoetunes: let me paste it for you....10:58
moetunespowerinside: /etc/apt/sources.list file sorry10:58
dErzOnkhello there, someone can help me fix my grapic drivers? (it's nvidia, games not working is warsow, ut99, and i'm bloody noob in this linux)10:58
moetunes!nvidia10:58
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:58
powerinsideok... can i simply just press OK now without inserting the disc? it will update from the internet then?10:59
powerinsidei mean , can i continue in the konsole10:59
moetunespowerinside: you need to do an   apt-get update10:59
powerinsideok10:59
AhmedBHHi,  I can't see thumbnails on KDE ! only on music videos10:59
powerinsidemoetunes: after I comment out the CD in sources cfg?10:59
moetunespowerinside: yep - any change in that file needs an update11:00
Benkinoobymoetunes: http://pastebin.com/KGiMhnuR11:00
moetunesBenkinooby: from the number of lines it looks like an upgrade11:01
Benkinoobymoetunes: so it is allready upgraded?11:01
Benkinoobymoetunes: and only my packages are all with karmic?11:01
moetunesBenkinooby: last line is for a 2.6.28 kernel... - which sources list did you make default?11:02
Benkinoobymoetunes: the one with karmic...11:02
AhmedBHWill anyone tell me why i cant see thumbnails of any video on dolphin :)11:02
Benkinoobylet me make the lucid be default and see...11:03
moetunesBenkinooby: sounds like it is trying to downgrade then11:03
Benkinoobymoetunes: after my failed upgrade to lucid, i made the sources.list to karmic again11:03
moetunesAhmedBH: maybe there is no video thumbnailer installed...11:04
AhmedBHoh ... so how do i download that@_@11:04
AhmedBHits fine over Gnome11:04
moetunesBenkinooby: get rid of the karmic sources.list mate - you are on lucid11:04
moetunesI wouldn't know the video thumbnailers name - I thought it was a natural dep AhmedBH11:05
powerinsideHey I so since I've attempted to upgrade kub using ubuntu , I fear some unwanted leftover ubuntu/gnome stuff... any tips on what all to remove usin apt-get? I want pure kubuntuish not pure kde11:05
Benkinoobylucid is with kernel 2.6.32 and i am with 2.6.3111:05
AhmedBHThanks i remember it now moetunes11:06
moetunesluck11:06
moetunes:]11:06
AhmedBHbut thats already installed..11:06
Benkinoobypowerinside: better use aptitude....11:07
AhmedBHuh11:07
moetunesBenkinooby: that means you haven't updated lucid is all11:07
Benkinoobymoetunes: hahaha... now i did sudo aptitude update and got 1775 updates....11:09
Benkinoobyand 28167 new to install...11:09
moetunesBenkinooby: with a lucid sources.list?11:09
Benkinoobymoetunes: j11:10
Benkinoobynow i am doing sudo aptitude safe-upgrade11:10
Benkinoobymoetunes: yes, with lucid sources.lsit11:10
moetunesBenkinooby: I hope you delete that karmic sources.list then...11:11
Benkinoobypowerinside: hmm, you could uninstall all the gui stuff and reinstall kubuntu-desktop package...but this will killl all ur configs i guess...11:11
Benkinoobymoetunes: for now i renamed it....11:12
moetunesnot without --purge11:12
powerinsidebenkinooby: not taking any risks then.. lol11:12
Benkinoobypowerinside: see what moetunes said... use the --purge :)11:12
moetunespowerinside: it seems that kdm isn't starting for some reason11:12
moetunesnot the --purge!!11:13
Benkinoobypowerinside: i thing you will get all the gnomestuff if you remove the ubuntu-desktop stuff...11:13
Benkinoobypowerinside: don't puge ;)11:13
Benkinoobypurge11:13
moetunespowerinside: ^^11:13
powerinsideUm.. just a sec11:14
powerinsideso sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop is okay?11:14
moetunespowerinside: just do   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   to see if it brings anything that was missing first11:14
powerinsidemoetunes: i just finished doing that.. lemme reboot to see if it bought back my loadings11:15
moetunesk11:15
Benkinoobymoetunes: http://pastebin.com/bmLJkur411:15
moetunesBenkinooby: that looks like an update not os upgrade - sure it is with the lucid sources.list just to nag a bit :]11:16
AhmedBHmoetunes: I solved it hh11:17
AhmedBHthanks tho11:17
moetunesBenkinooby: no new kernel afaiksee11:18
moetunes*can see11:18
Benkinoobymoetunes: http://pastebin.com/5XA5b1UV11:19
moetunesBenkinooby: then you are upgrading lucid - well done :]11:20
Benkinoobymoetunes: but should i get the ***.32 kernel? i am with 31 one11:21
Benkinoobynow11:21
moetunesBenkinooby: I would let the upgrade do it's thing first11:22
Benkinoobymoetunes: so i also checked what sudo aptitude dist-upgrade says... 33 conflicts....11:22
moetunesBenkinooby: that sort of thing is bound to happen when you mix sources.lists11:23
moetunesshouldn't have done that11:23
Benkinooby:/... next time i know :P11:24
Benkinoobymoetunes: waht are u using for updates? gui, apt-get, aptitude ?11:24
moetunesBenkinooby: I always do apt-get - old school here :]11:25
Benkinoobymoetunes: :D... sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade11:26
moetunesBenkinooby: luck mate :]11:26
Benkinoobymoetunes: thx... to be honest i am even thinking about getting away from kde to something lighter... although i will really miss all the nice kde-stuff ... maybe to xfce or lxde... (cuz i use a netbook) ...but for sure i will always use dolphin... i like it so much...11:28
Benkinoobynow starting my 800MB download....11:29
moetunesBenkinooby: I use fluxbox mainly here :]11:31
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JDahlmy sound is broken in KDE after an upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04. I searched the forums, but didn't find anything specific to look for.  Anyone here has experience manually configuring sound under KDE?11:33
Benkinoobymoetunes: i was looking at it... but when a gui doesn't come with it's own panes i feel strage... i like it, wehn everything is "fitting" together like DE do it (or pretend)... i looked at openbox, fluxbox (to me they are pretty much the same odr du you know good reasons why to choose on over the other), enlightenment, xfce, even ion... but always i return to big-fat-kde :D the only thing i don't look at is gnome... maybe i need to get11:34
Benkinooby used to windowmanagers and their modular apraoch... they can be very nice looking while being fast...11:34
Benkinoobypanes = panels11:34
Benkinoobysorry for my horrible english11:35
zuswhy cant i send email in kmail what is the smtp server not supporting authentication?!?!11:35
zusi didnt do anything diferent than before!11:35
moetunesI get upset when i boot to the desktop and it uses more then 40mb - just to get to a menu? - so I am a minimalist :]11:36
moetunesmem*11:36
Benkinoobymoetunes: why do you prefer fluxbox over openbox or blackbox?11:36
moetuneszus: did it change to ask for a password?11:37
Benkinoobymoetunes: and what filemanafer are you using?11:37
zusi  gave it one yes11:37
moetunesBenkinooby: flux has grouping,transparencey etc11:37
zusim about to give up on this -11:37
moetunesBenkinooby: thunar11:37
moetuneszus: most don't want a password11:38
zusmoetunes,  its gmail, and now i dont need a pswd?11:38
moetuneszus: sorry i don't do gmail - i was commenting on smtp servers in general from isps mate11:39
zusmoetunes,  its cool im going for lay down ill try later11:41
moetuneszus: luck mate :]11:41
zusmoetunes,  doing my head in you know what i mean? up alll night11:42
moetuneszus: it would keep me up too11:42
zusmoetunes,  i recieve ok but it wont send out11:43
moetunesheads up zus11:44
moetunesOutgoing Mail (SMTP) Server – requires TLS: smtp.gmail.com (use authentication)11:44
moetunesUse Authentication: Yes11:44
moetunesUse STARTTLS: Yes (some clients call this SSL)11:44
moetunesPort: 465 or 58711:44
moetunesAccount Name: your Gmail username (including ‘@gmail.com’)11:44
FloodBotK2moetunes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.11:44
moetunesEmail Address: your full Gmail email address (username@gmail.com)11:44
zusaye, i dont know what im typing in wrong?11:45
Benkinoobymoetunes: is there a use of unsing floxbox when i use all the kde apps (amarok, kopete, dolphin...)11:46
zusive check incase i got a , and not a .11:46
moetuneszus: something like - Account Name: your Gmail username (including ‘@gmail.com’) - maybe?11:46
moetunesBenkinooby: fluxbox has a configure option to use kde apps natively11:47
Miika--hello11:47
Benkinoobymoetunes: byebye kde, hello fluxbox11:47
Miika--How I can make lightscribe labels in kubuntu?11:47
moetunesMiika--: your burner supports this?11:48
zusmoetunes,  oi, now thats wot im talking about thanks mate11:49
Miika--moetunes: yes11:50
zusMiika--,  i dont know how to lightscribe even in windows i couldnt figure it out11:50
Miika--It's easy in Windows11:51
moetunesMiika--: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/118705 - might help11:52
zusmoetunes,  now i can actually enjoy my smoke brb. and thanks11:54
moetunesnp :]11:54
kwadrobaità ðóññêèå åñòü ?11:57
moetuneslooks like greek to me kwadrobait11:57
kwadrobaitmoetunes:  i need russian support11:58
moetunes!ru11:58
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke11:58
kwadrobaitthx )11:58
moetunesnp11:58
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AhoxHi, I have problems connecting my bluetooth headset with my PC. While both hcitool and kbluetooth can find the headset, kbluetooth says it does not provide any input functionality. Any idea?12:05
AhoxAlso seperate question, only one app at a time can play music (vlc, firefox, dragon player, skype, etc.) I understood that alsa does support multiple sinks or am I mistaken?12:06
Benkinoobymoetunes: hmm... i looked cles at fluxbox... it also seems to be the most poular among all the *box WMs. so now fluxbox vs. enlightenment :P12:06
moetunes!bluetooth | Ahox best I can do12:07
ubottuAhox best I can do: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup12:07
moetunesBenkinooby: enlightenment has some pluses but is harder to set up and has less interoperability with kde apps for example12:08
moetunesI find it weird12:08
Benkinoobymoetunes: it also seems to go deeper into the system and brings mor of it's own libaries....12:08
moetunesit is fairly unique Benkinooby12:09
Benkinoobymoetunes: i thing best thing is to spend one week on flux and see...12:10
Benkinoobyand in case lubuntu gets official i will test it12:10
moetunesBenkinooby: lots of links to set it up - and there is   http://fluxbox.org    for how tos12:11
moetunes!lubuntu12:11
Benkinoobymoetunes: thx, i allrdy opened op that page long ago ;)12:11
moetunesheh12:11
moetunes!bot12:11
moetunes!lag12:11
bazhang#lubuntu12:12
Benkinoobymoetunes: lubuntu is ubuntu with lxde12:12
Benkinoobymoetunes: http://lubuntu.net/12:12
moetunes:]I know mate12:12
Benkinoobymoetunes: ah, ok ... i was just wondering why all the !lubuntu12:12
ubottulubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu12:13
ubottuHi! I'm ubottu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins12:13
ubottuYou have lag, I don't have lag12:13
moetunesubuntu with lxde - just seeing if it was official enough for the bot to know12:13
Benkinoobyhahahaha12:13
moetunesand the bot does know...12:13
TweyOooh, LXDE logo is pretty12:14
Benkinoobyhahahahaha12:14
Benkinoobypretty what? ;)12:14
moetunesthe logo looks nice12:15
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Benkinoobyi don't like it.. but this shall not be a problem...12:18
moetunesI never took to lxde myself12:19
hofoeni need some help12:20
hofoenhow can i extract multiple zip files to one folde12:20
moetuneshofoen: in konsole   cd to the folder and use unzip is how i would do it12:21
Benkinoobymoetunes: "took"?12:21
moetunesit never grabbed me - I found it not to my liking etc12:22
Benkinoobyk12:22
Benkinoobyafk12:22
hofoenthey need to be extracted to one folder, but the unzip creates different folder for every file12:23
moetuneshofoen: they are created in folders so of course - man unzip might have an option12:24
moetuneshofoen: the -d option looks promising12:25
hofoenyep, it works12:26
hofoeni forgot to add the '' the first time12:26
hofoenthank you12:26
moetunesnp ;]12:26
bartolHi everyone, can anyone point me in the direction of an opensource project using QTJambi?12:28
moetunesbartol: http://qtjambi.sourceforge.net/12:29
moetunesfirst in google search...12:29
bartolI'm actually looking for projects implementing qtjambi :)12:29
Mamarokbartol: why not ask the developers of Qt Jambi? -> http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=29632712:31
Mamarokthey might know better than we do12:31
moetunesbartol: http://freshmeat.net/tags/qt - has a few too12:32
bartolThanks!12:34
bartolSeems like most of them are C++ as expected12:37
Mamarokbartol: well, Jambi are just Java bidings for C++, what did you expect?12:38
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bartolI don't know. I was hoping there would be a nice project out there somewhere to practice using QT with java. I'm not very familiar with C++ yet.12:40
AhoxHi, is there some way to make non-qt apps use phonon or its backend?12:40
MamarokAhox: not that I know of, no12:41
Mamarokbut maybe ask in #phonon12:41
AhoxCurrently I can either use sound with a kde (sry, not qt) app or another app... kind of anoying12:41
Mamarokbartol: Qt is a C++ framework12:41
AhoxMamarok,  thnx, I will do that12:42
MamarokAhox: well, it is made for KDE and Qt applications, don't expect miracles. But of course you can ask the Gnome devs to use Phonon, too, just' don't expect any reaction on that...12:42
bartolMamarok: I know, but I don't like Swing. I was hoping QT might replace it for me.12:43
AhoxMamarok,  and skype and... no, its just that in kde3 times one could redirect the audio output to the ksoundserver whatever its name was12:43
Mamarokbartol: maybe as in #qt?12:44
MamarokAhox: you talk about ancient times...12:44
bartolMamarok: ok, I'll try that. Thx12:45
AhoxMamarok,  yes I know, I am getting old, starting to write about the good ol' time back then when sound worked ;-)12:46
MamarokAhox: it does work here12:46
Ahoxit works here, too - with an alsa fore-reload to switch apps...12:47
MamarokI use the plain installation that I got with Lucid, nothing changed12:47
Mamarokwell, Upgrade to KDE SC 4.4.3, but that shouldn't matter12:47
Ahoxcan you use say skype parallel to amarok?12:48
MamarokAhox: I don't use Skype12:49
Ahoxok, whats about any other non-kde app? Firefox, flash, etc?12:51
bartolAhox: Did you figure out a way to get thos things to work?12:51
Ahoxbartol,  only with an sudo alsa force-reload12:52
bartolAhox: When do you do the sudo alsa force-reload, after starting amarok or after starting skype/firefox flash?12:53
Ahoxbartol,  I do that before I want to use the program in question. So say I want to use skype after amarok, I stop amarok, do an alsa force-reload, (re)select  the outputs in skype, use skype. Major PITA12:55
bartolAhox: sounds like fun. Skype doesn't bother me as much, but the weird flash playback is just so irritating. sometimes it keeps playing the sound of a video for a full minute after I close the browser12:56
Ahoxbartol,  oh, this should definitly be fixed by an reload12:56
bartolAhox: thanks for the tip12:57
kleopatraHello cqan someone help me? my sound isnt working properly ...12:57
bartolAhox: Any insights on why this happens?12:57
AhoxMy best guess is that flash buffered the soundoutput into alsa and forgot to issue a stop - hence alsa will happily play till it hit end of buffer.12:58
AhoxHaving said that an buffer of one minute sounds awfully long to me12:59
bartolI tried tinkering with the flash plugin a few weeks ago, but that didn't do anything13:01
bartolit works most of the time, I shouldn't complain :)13:02
Mamarok!sound13:08
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP313:08
MamarokPasNox: those links above, follow them step by step13:09
Mamarokespecially the second one13:09
PasNoxMamarok: thanks.13:09
Ahoxfound a solution on http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Hardware_mixing,_software_mixing . Works like a charm13:09
Ahoxkleopatra,  what's your problem?13:09
ForgeAuscan KDM use fingerprint scanner on ASUS notebooks (esp M50S model)13:10
kleopatraahox: well my sound isnt workin in firefox, and vlc-media player. it alway works when starting the computer und shutting down , amarok sometimes works but i cant rely on it13:10
Ahoxkleopatra, this sounds like the same issue I had. Just to make sure, can you please try an sudo alsa force-reload .13:11
Ahoxand check if it works within one app then13:11
kleopatraahox: before i forget, my comp often telly me about sound-devices that would have been taken away13:13
Ahoxthis sounds like alsa restarts already on its own...13:13
Ahoxor crashes13:13
kleopatraahox : http://paste.ubuntu.com/434345/ its in german tho13:14
Ahoxno prob. yes, that's the message one gets from an alsa stop/restart, too13:14
Ahoxmaybe buggy drivers/hardware?13:14
kleopatraahox: how can i find out?13:17
Ahoxkleopatra,  anyway you may want to have a look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Hardware_mixing,_software_mixing13:17
Ahox_I am not sure about that. Sorry. Maybe dmesg is helpfull13:18
Ahox_also really try the link I send you. It solved all my problems...13:19
kleopatraahox:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/434358/13:19
BluesKajHey all13:39
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* BluesKaj has more coffee14:00
n8whey14:14
n8wis there a way for switchin user in multiple terminals via bash script?14:14
n8wevery time i reboot i need to manually do su - user1 on 4 different terminals...is it possible to make a script for it?14:14
Benkinoobyhi14:28
Benkinoobykeyboard after upgrade not working usb too14:30
Benkinoobyhttp://pastebin.com/fzfDZNhB14:31
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dErzOnkARG, i need some help by accident i removed all the programms from the taskbar... how can i get that back?!?14:58
eagles0513875hey guys anyone in here using kopete15:01
dErzOnkyes i use kopete15:02
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rorkdErzOnk: did you remove the task manager or the notification and jobs, or shortcuts or what exactly?15:18
bartolCan anyone tell me if mounting devices trough fstab during boot is logged somewhere besides dmesg?15:20
dErzOnkhi rork.,.. well normally theres the taskbar and for each programm using you have a little Tab at the taskbar...15:21
rorkdErzOnk: yes, right click the panel (taskbar) > panel options > add widgets > task manager15:22
dErzOnkhmmm cant find it....15:24
dErzOnkjeez thank rork found it! was different german name!15:27
dErzOnkbtw UT runs now somehow but i need lot of fixes!15:27
rorkdErzOnk: what kind of fixes?15:27
dErzOnki crash at public LAS servers and i have 300FPS AvG and 500FPS spikes... i move too fast xD15:29
Benkinoobyhallo some1 here?15:32
Mamarok!ask | Benkinooby15:35
ubottuBenkinooby: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)15:35
thopiekarhi15:38
thopiekares ist doch nicht normal, dass man heute bei der 2. Reparatur einer Seagate Festplatte nach 15,4 Tagen Betriebszeit wieder einen defekten Sektor hat oder?15:39
thopiekardie 1. Ersatzfestplatte war nach dem ersten Gebrauch auch schon hin.. (dutzende bad blocks).. welchen Festplatten-Hersteller könnt ihr mir empfehlen?15:40
Benkinoobyoh srry i only have screenkeyboard....http://pastebin.com/KgsL6Mwz. mz upgrade messed up everything15:40
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ForgeAusok so how to remount a wubi partition from within wubi?15:41
thopiekaruuh sorry for writing here in german :) I thought it is the german channel here :P15:41
ForgeAus(I wanna kind of /host from within a chroot)15:41
LjLthopiekar: you can try #ubuntu-de for german15:41
thopiekarLjL: for sure I will15:43
thopiekarLjL: but it is almost offtopic soo #kubuntu-de-offtopic15:44
Benkinoobyplz someone helps me with messed up distupgrade http://pastebin.com/fFA5t5PH15:51
Benkinoobyi only have mousepad to type screenkeyboard15:52
Benkinooby:(15:52
Ramzes_IIafter computer hibernation, Network Management is off, Unmanaged...16:00
goodtimego to your start menu and type in firewall and set up your proxy Ramzes_II16:04
goodtimesame thing i just went through16:04
Ramzes_IIok,thanks..16:05
Ramzes_IIgoodtime : I cant enable Network management16:08
goodtimeman i love kubuntu its way easier than most linux so far lol16:08
goodtimeoops16:08
goodtimehmmm16:08
goodtimeRamzes_II: in terminal as root type in dhclient might help there16:08
Ramzes_IIok16:09
goodtimethen try what i said about your proxy16:12
Ramzes_IIgoodtime : DHCP Client V3.1.3, can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases: Permission Denied16:12
goodtimeyou need permissions and i think it will work then i will try to remember how to do that hang on16:13
Ramzes_III type as root16:14
bgd_hi, is kubuntu 8.10 compatible with asus eee pc 4g 701 ? thanks16:30
Benjism89hello16:53
Benjism89I've just upgraded to 10.04 and now the OS won't start16:54
Benjism89can't open /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen16:55
Benjism89can anyone help me fixing that problem ?16:55
AhmedBHHi, i have a issue, when i set my monitor @ 1028x1024 after a stupid restart its back to default at 1024768 , How do i permanent set that to a 17" as default @_@ xrandr ?17:10
AhmedBHi use KDE control Module by the way17:10
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AhmedBHANYONE HOME17:13
AhmedBH:P17:13
shadeslayerhey :)17:13
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shadeslayerok i just want to ask a small question,if i install kvm and virtualize windows,can i get it to connect to WiFi,ethernet and USB ?17:14
shadeslayer( the actual devices on my system )17:14
slow-motionhi17:14
DarthFrogshadeslayer: I don't know about kvm, but all tha works for me in VMWare and VirtualBox.17:15
AhmedBHHi, i have a issue, when i set my monitor @ 1028x1024 after a stupid restart its back to default at 1024768 , How do i permanent set that to a 17" as default @_@ xrandr ?17:16
AhmedBHi use KDE control Module by the way17:16
shadeslayerDarthFrog: ok17:16
shadeslayerDarthFrog: im basically thinking of removing Vista and virtualizing 7, i just need windows for updating my phone's OS and some light gaming17:17
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DarthFrogGaming is not one of the strong points of virtualisation.17:21
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shadeslayerDarthFrog: i know... but the main thing is the update of the phone...17:25
DarthFrogThat should be no problem.17:25
shadeslayerand for that i need USB and ethernet/Wifi :)17:26
shadeslayer+support in kvm17:26
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PasNoxhi17:56
PasNoxi'm trying to read my original os x dvd from my kubuntu17:56
PasNoxbut kde4 can't mount it17:57
PasNoxi tryied: sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/dev /mnt17:57
PasNoxbut i got errors, any idea ?17:57
DarthFrog /dev/dev won't work. :-)18:00
bjorn_does anyone know what has happened to the "synaptic package manager"? I just installed the new 10.04 LTS, and can´t seem to find the old synaptic packade manager (which I think was great)18:00
DarthFrogbjorn_: It's available for installation.18:01
PasNoxDarthFrog: oups bad copy, i use /dev/sr018:01
PasNox:D18:01
PasNoxi tried hfs and hfsplus same error :/18:02
DarthFrogPasNox: /dev/sr0 is your DVD drive.18:02
DarthFrogPasNox: So -t hfsplus is wrong.  should be -t iso966018:02
PasNoxDarthFrog: i want to mount an os x dvd18:02
PasNoxi think it's hfs(plus) type it's not an iso966018:02
DarthFrogTry -t iso966018:03
PasNoxok18:03
LuijaPlease people I need help I am booting from my Live Cd right now because my partition is broken and I cannot access recovery mode, is there something I can do to save it from the Live CD?18:03
LuijaInside the live CD*18:03
PasNoxDarthFrog: does not works, dmesg | tail tells: can't recognize the cdrom18:03
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WaYhello18:18
WaYwich driver is better? nvidia private or nouveau?18:18
speedvinfor what?18:19
WaYfor a composited screen for example18:19
speedvinhmm18:19
WaYwich driver gives more fps18:19
DarthFrog!nouveau18:20
ubottunouveau is an open-source nvidia driver included by default in 10.04. Currently 3D rendering is unsupported. More information can be found in http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ - See also !nvidia18:20
speedvinsimple or many advanced compositions18:20
DarthFrogWaY: Does that answer your question?18:20
WaYI think that nouveau is still developing18:20
speedvinWay: you're right18:21
evilshadeslayerWaY: well you can get 3D support.. xorg edgers Crack ppa18:21
WaYok, I will continue using private driver18:21
evilshadeslayerits straight from Git....18:21
WaYthanks to everybody18:21
evilshadeslayerWaY: private? you mean proprietary?18:22
WaYyes, sorry for my "english"18:22
evilshadeslayer:P18:22
AhmedBHHi18:49
AhmedBHI cannot keep my display resolution on KDE after every damn restart it gets back to default  I'm so pissed off >_< ANY help seriously18:50
AhmedBH@_@ ??18:53
pat5starHi all, has anyone upgraded from Karmic to Lucid? Any glitches or gotchas?! I'm interested in switching but hesitant as I have Karmic running beautifully on my main laptop (of course I have backups!).19:07
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m_tadeuhi all19:16
m_tadeuas soon as I login, there is this kdesudo window saying "Please enter your password to use this device" and I have no clue of which devi we're talking about19:17
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pat5starHi all, has anyone upgraded from Karmic to Lucid? Any glitches or gotchas?! I'm interested in switching but hesitant as I have Karmic running beautifully on my main laptop (of course I have backups!).19:18
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pat5starnobody has done the upgrade from karmic to lucid? Perhaps the ones who have lost internet access and can't respond ;)19:25
m_tadeupat5star: it should show something on your kpackagekit19:29
m_tadeuif not, try this http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading19:30
ForgeAuswhy is texlive so BIIG?19:33
ForgeAus217 or so mb!!!19:33
ForgeAusts bigger than some distros!! rofli19:34
pat5starm_tadeu: oh it does, it's just that in past upgrades (I'm talking immediately after they were made available) there has always been a few serious glitches at first. This time I'm deciding to wait for a little while before upgrading in hopes that it's all ironed out.19:35
pat5starm_tadeu: so I'm basically asking if anyone that has done the upgrade recently has experienced any common problems19:36
m_tadeuI did...had onw problem with the wireless connection19:36
m_tadeuwhich changed me some setting in a way that I coudn't connect19:37
m_tadeubut did another upgrade 2 days ago, and all went fine19:37
pat5starm_tadeu: cool, that's exactly the kind of thing I'm worrying about. Almost always with each upgrade it's screwed up my connectivity, and sometimes things like sound or video. Then shortly after that happens to everyone, they fix it.19:39
Benkinoobyhi everybody.... i killed my kubuntu a 100%... no i managed to get luxbox but all my dependencies are totally messed up and i am somewhere between karmik and lucid... right now aptitude is complaining about a lot of unmet dependencies and wants to remove my half system.... how can i get a clean 10.04?19:39
pat5starm_tadeu: right now, I have Karmic running awesome, so I don't really want to mess it up. If the major glitches are pretty much fixed with Lucid, I'd like to try the upgrade tho19:39
mauriplease help me to get work my scanner canon lide100 with kubuntu19:39
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m_tadeuI think it should be fixed by now, since it didn't happen 2 days ago19:40
pat5starm_tadeu: I'm trying to avoid things like what Benkinooby is stating (how's that for timing!) too...because that's happened to me in past upgrades as well!19:41
pat5starm_tadeu: ok, thanks for your input. I'll do one more backup and then attempt the upgrade :)19:41
pat5starBenkinooby: have you tried the 'force' option?19:42
pat5starBenkinooby:  apt-get -f dist-upgrade19:42
Benkinoobypat5star: yes, when i tried it before to gave me hell19:43
Benkinoobybut now it is nice to me :P only wnat to revmove 5 packages :D19:43
Benkinoobysorry for typos19:44
pianoHallo.19:44
pat5starBenkinooby: I know it's not fun. Between 'forcing' it, and sometimes removing problem packages (reinstall them later) is the only way to plow through that mess19:44
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Benkinoobypat5star: this is what i learned the hard way too ;)19:45
Benkinoobyi had to nearly remove all my software19:45
Benkinoobyeven networkmanagers19:45
Benkinoobybut now i am on my way up :D19:45
mauriplease help me to get work my scanner canon lide100 with kubuntu19:46
pat5starBenkinooby: In your error messages, you'll get a list of the packages that are unable to install because of dependecies...I sometimes just start removing 1 by 1 (writing them down) until apt-get dist-upgrade works again, then reinstall after...it's the only way I've been able to get through it, but at the end it all works19:46
Benkinoobybut now i am on my way up :D... also i see that apt-get and aptitude (which i used until now) are behaving very different19:46
Benkinoobypat5star: seems, you suffered a lot :D19:46
pat5starBenkinooby: good good, well hopefully the rest of the upgrade goes smoothly for you...I'm going to try myself soon too19:46
Benkinoobypat5star: where do i get the messages? dmesg?19:47
pat5starBenkinooby: only on upgrades...but it's worth it to me for the end product :)19:47
pat5starBenkinooby: in the konsole (if that's what you are using) when apt-get conks out...if you're not using that but instead a GUI, I'd suggest switching to apt-get in konsole for the rest of the upgrade19:48
pat5starphone rining, brb19:48
Benkinoobypat5star: np... ah i am using conole most of the time... even now i am moving from kde to fluxbox19:48
Benkinoobyeven if i preferd aptittude until now (it handels dependcies much better than apt) i think in future apt-get is my choice for dist-upgrade....19:50
m_tadeubarça just won the championship...gonna go to the streets and celebreate :)19:50
Benkinoobym_tadeu: u got priorities :D19:51
m_tadeuhehe oh yes...see ya guys and good luck19:51
kidsanyone using realtek 888 audio and spdif?19:57
angelkubuntu spanish please ??20:58
LjL!es20:59
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.20:59
angelthank20:59
Sonseehi all21:12
Sonseeis there a way to make google earth as a "background widget" on KDE 4.3?21:14
huntSonsee: you can use marble...21:17
huntSonsee: do you know about that?21:17
SonseeSorry, I have stupid irc client and don`t see who wrote the massege, anyway, yes, I saw video on youtube and read a little, but didn`t get how to make that on background. I have marble installed but how to use that on desktop?))21:20
huntSonsee: rightclick your desktop and look for it, there are other things like pattern etc, if you dont find it, you have to install it, just search for marble in kpackagekit, there should be something like kdebackground-widget-marble or similar, install it and try again21:26
Sonseeand if do have marble installed, and i can run it but I don`t have any options in desktop-settings to set it up? (marble)21:38
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benutzerhi I loaded a live image via fetch command from a http server and use it from within ram, it can be retrieved from the server, but when I am logged in, there is no lan connection available, I tried networkmanager and wicd, both dont work. what can I do?22:02
benutzersudo ifconfig eth0 down/up doesnt help22:03
howlymowlyhi poeple...   I just realised my open office does not work anymore,... last week it still worked... I don't even get an error message...22:20
howlymowlywere there any updates this week?22:20
Guest96992hi, i upraded to lucid but now grub is coming but i am not able to start my linux22:20
Guest96992seems like vmlinuz and initrd are missing22:21
Guest96992how can i recreate them?22:21
cuznti get You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. as an error22:22
cuzntonly safe mode22:22
kaddiHi, I need help with Virtualbox.. I uninstalled the OSE version to test the closed source version, but didn't like it much. However now when I try to install VB-ose it says:  * No suitable module for running kernel found                                                                               [fail]22:24
kaddiI'm running a 64bit lucid install22:24
wingzerohi all22:26
Guest96992seems like i erased my vmlinuz and initrd... grub can not find them :( where can i get them22:27
wingzeroi have a beginners question, i installed the samba packages, and when i use dolphin to view view the network i can see my windows machinem but there are no sharesm however on another pc that also has windows i can see the shares perfectly.......22:27
Guest96992can i jsut downaod the kernel image from ubuntu or do i have to compile my own one?22:31
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Guest96992grub can not find my vmlinz und initrd after i upgraded. how can i get them back?22:35
kaddimaybe try asking in #ubuntu nobody seems to be active here at the moment. But from what you say it sounds like you deleted your kernels?22:36
iconmefistoGuest96992: what error does grub give you?22:36
Guest96992iconmefisto: file not found22:36
Guest96992i set the root correctly22:36
Guest96992iconmefisto: also setup (hd1) ist ok and my stagefiles are there..... but when i wnat to boot, grub tells me i need to set the kernel first. when i checked my /boot/* folder there was no vmlinz or initrd22:37
Guest96992iconmefisto: can i donwload them somewhere, or do i need to compile them?22:40
wingzeroi have a beginners question, i installed the samba packages, and when i use dolphin to view view the network i can see my windows machinem but there are no sharesm however on another pc that also has windows i can see the shares perfectly.......22:41
iconmefistoGuest96992: boot livecd, chroot, install linux-image22:41
Guest96992!!! chroot ok... thx! hope i don't need to brb ;)22:42
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:42
Guest96992lol22:42
iconmefistokaddi: I don't have a solution for your vbox problem, but what did you not like about the non-ose vbox? I thought they were the same except ose doesn't have usb22:47
draikHow do I disable the turning off to my monitors?23:00
cuznti get You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. as an error23:01
cuzntanyone?23:01
TweyHave you considered doing as it says?23:02
cuznti do not know how23:02
cuzntthus i ask...23:02
kaddiiconmefisto: i actually got it sorted at #ubuntu.. an autoclean-purge was all that was needed. non ose vbox is crashing on me when I try to run ComboFix. It was working fine on the ose version23:02
TweyOpen up a terminal, enter ‘sudo nvidia-xconfig’, press enter, enter your password, press enter23:02
cuznti tried sudo nvisia-xconfig23:02
TweyLog out and in again23:02
cuznti did that.23:03
TweyAnd what was the resultant error?23:03
cuzntim not sure it starts in the safe mode23:04
iconmefistologging out is not enough. you need to restart X23:04
cuzntthe few times it does it correctly it does not remember my resolution23:04
cuznti have restarted twice23:04
cuzntas my sound is not working either23:05
draikMy monitors turn off after 15 minutes or so of inactivity. How do I disable that?23:05
cuzntahhh... extra i... me runs sudo nvidia-xconfig23:06
iconmefistodraik: systemsettings > advanced tab > power management23:06
draikiconmefisto: I have all profiles to assure monitor doesn't turn off. This time, I disabled the power management by PowerDevil. I hope that does it.23:08
cuzntno change23:10
iconmefistodraik: could it be the "blank screen" screen saver? or is the monitor really turning off?23:12
iconmefistodraik: I think that kicks in after 15 minutes by default23:13
draikiconmefisto: Not the "blank screen" screensaver. I get the message that it is not connect, as to when the monitor is not connected to the computer.23:13
tothohi boy!!!!!!!!!!23:22
totho!list23:22
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draikiconmefisto: Just happened again. Looks like 10 minutes23:24
harjothow come my kubuntu locks up/takes very loong timee to unlock after leaving it for about 4 hours?23:28
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harjotanyone?23:31
harjothow come my kubuntu locks up/takes very loong timee to unlock after leaving it for about 4 hours?23:31
harjotit started happening after using dekorator23:31
harjotand superkaramba and kbfx23:31
heathhas anyone been successful in getting kopete to connect to facebook's xmpp service?23:36
harjotheath: are you on hardy?23:36
heathharjot: yees23:37
heathyes*23:37
harjotheath: same, and it seems that kopete doesnt wish to connect with 8.04s version of kopete23:37
harjotheath: so no luck23:38
harjotheath: you could try the facebook plugin if you are desperate23:38
heathi am23:38
harjotok i will link just a sec23:38
heaththanks23:38
slow-motionn823:40
harjotheath: sorry i need to go, but search for kopete facebook plugin, and also the plugin should be around this website, else look for a dowload http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/64423:40
heathwhere is the kmail info located in ~/.kde?23:44
heathi just deleted ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail23:44
heathbut it didn't delete my kmail information23:44
heathit still has my settings saved23:44
heathand they need to go bye-bye23:44
heathi need to start afresh23:44
iconmefistoheath: .kde/share/config/kmail*23:45
heaththanks iconmefisto23:45
lbaWhat is the name of the firewall that is included in Kubuntu 8.04?23:46
iconmefistolba: iptables? ufw?23:47
zusdoes virtual box support 3-d gaming?23:48
lbaiconmefisto, It's probably iptables based but has some other name.  I think you install it with apt-get.23:49
heathwhat type of auth metod do you guys/gals use for smtp with gmail?23:50
iconmefistolba: guarddog?23:50
heathlba: i don't think there is a firewall that comes with kubuntu 8.0423:50
heathi've never known ubuntu ship a firewall23:51
lbaiconmefisto, It's ufw and is installed.  I'll just temporarily enable it because my normal router may have had a lightening hit.  You normally install it with apt-get which is what I did but forgot the name.23:51
lbaheath, Kubuntu doesn't ship with a firewall but it's recommended and available for kubuntu.23:52
heathhere's the error i keep receiving from kmail while attempting to send via smtp: http://pastebin.com/C3Z10WpF23:53
avihayzus: should support oprngl out of the box and direct-x with wined3d23:54
zusavihay,  thanks23:55
draikAnyone know of an app for creating an archive of my movies? I want to be able to store it on my computer and view what I have.23:55
avihayzus: the wined3d dosen't work for me dor some reason23:56
smokealotdraik: view from a tv?23:56
avihaydor->for23:57
iconmefistoheath: mine is set to PLAIN and works. what port number and server are you using? mine is port 587 smtp.gmail.com23:57
iconmefistoheath: and encryption set to TLS23:58
Luija1006Kate does not wanna open grease monkey scripts to edit them, it says an error ocurrs when interpreting them, but in 9.10 everything was fine, whats wrong?23:59

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