[00:31] <stlsaint> has anyone used dropbox and how secure is it?
[00:43] <ZachK_> hello zeroseven0183
[00:43] <zeroseven0183> ZachK_: good morning
[00:44] <ZachK_> zeroseven0183: good evening for me..it's almost seven at night for me
[00:45] <zeroseven0183> I see. So how's your computing?
[00:45] <ZachK_> zeroseven0183: depends upon the are of computing...why?
[00:45] <zeroseven0183> Sorry but is it 7PM saturday or 7PM sunday?
[00:45] <ZachK_> sat
[00:46] <zeroseven0183> I see. Have you seen Robin Hood?
[00:46] <ZachK_> zeroseven0183: not to be rude but what does robin hood have to do with computing skills?
[00:46] <ZachK_> and which robin hood...i've seen several
[00:47] <zeroseven0183> Haha
[00:47] <zeroseven0183> Yeah, sorry to jump ideas
[00:47] <zeroseven0183> Russell Crowe's Robin Hood
[00:47] <ZachK_> i don't believe it's out yet
[00:49] <zeroseven0183> Hmmm.. I see. Anyway, how's your Ubuntu machine going?
[00:50] <stlsaint> robin hood is out...i plan to see it today!
[00:52] <zeroseven0183> stlsaint: The movie is very good. Actually, I saw it last night.
[00:52] <zeroseven0183> But I have to re-read my history again to see if the facts are accurate
[00:53] <HoboSteaux> hey so i have a 2 parter: first i tried a last ditch fglrx install since i was gettin very bad frames in video playback with a x1650. unfortunately it bricked the video and grub doesn not show so i can not getinto the terminal at anytime before the video kicks in. is there any way with a live cd that i could boot into the terminal on my current installation to reverse fglrx (ssh is not installed by default on lubuntu)
[00:53] <ZachK_> zeroseven0183: unfortunately i'm not using an ubuntu machine...
[00:54] <HoboSteaux> 2nd: does anyone know why video playback would be stuttering, its an 800 x 640 tv screen (dvi out), radeon x1650 pro, celeron 2.5
[00:54] <zeroseven0183> Here we go...
[00:57] <zeroseven0183> HoboSteaux: I'd like to help you on that but my skills aren't good enough. I'll look for some answers in the web.
[00:57] <HoboSteaux> oh dont worry about researching anything for me, i was just throwing it out there for anyone that knew offhand
[01:00] <zeroseven0183> Have you asked the people in #ubuntu about that?
[01:02] <HoboSteaux> i know itll turn into a quick flamewar/[duh! its in the forums dumbass]
[01:16] <ZachK_> !language | HoboSteaux
[01:16] <Votebot> HoboSteaux: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:20] <pedro3005> ZachK_, don't need to be so strict now
[01:21] <pedro3005> he wasn't offending anyone
[01:22] <zeroseven0183> HoboSteaux: I didn't find anything similar that could help. Sorry
[01:30] <HoboSteaux> alright thank you man
[04:06] <HoboSteaux> im having problems with laggy video playback on tv out, ati x1650, celeron 2.5
[05:03] <stlsaint> so no one has used dropbox?
[05:03] <nigelb> stlsaint: I know people who've used it
[05:11] <stlsaint> nigelb: nevermind...i thought it would be a bit more secure than it really is...
[05:11] <stlsaint> maybe good for sharing family photos but thats about it
[05:11] <nigelb> stlsaint: flickr is way better
[05:11] <nigelb> or picasa
[05:11] <tenach> stlsaint, the only person I knew who used dropbox is also the same person who burned me and forced me out of working with two clients.  I don't like dropbox.
[05:11] <nigelb> you can set access rights for each picture
[05:12] <stlsaint> tenach: hehe
[05:12] <stlsaint> nigelb: yes this i know but i was hoping it was more secure as in a way to possibly store backups
[05:12] <nigelb> stlsaint: flickr doesn't loose your pics either
[05:13] <nigelb> I storemy backups on picasa
[08:43] <nishanth>  someone in here who can help with microsoft media server plugin
[09:07] <kermiac> nishanth: I haven't needed mms plugin it but have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[09:08] <kermiac> oops, extra "it" hehe
[09:08] <nishanth> yes i have
[09:09] <stevepl> hello everyone,i have got a new core-i7 hp dv6 laptop and it has problem running any live distro, but i can succefully boot using noapic nolapic mode , it is worse since it detects only a single core, plz help
[09:09] <nishanth> it is still not working properly....i mean like the video starts but it all it show is a frozen picture
[09:12] <nigelb> 1/ws 24
[09:12] <nigelb> gr
[09:14] <kermiac> nishanth: got a url of the site you're having troubles with?
[09:15] <nishanth> wait a sec
[09:16] <nishanth> mms://208.77.20.22/asianet_web1
[09:18] <nishanth> hey let me give you the URL try using it in vlc
[09:18] <nishanth> mms://208.77.20.22/asianet_web1
[09:20] <nishanth> anyclues?
[09:20] <kermiac> hm... not working in vlc, smplayer or totem... just firing up a VM to see if windows handles it
[09:22] <nishanth> vlc does not respond at all when i try it, but totem atleast tells buffering and the stops
[09:22] <ddecator> yah, vlc isn't doing anything for me
[09:23] <zeroseven0183> nishanth: Do you have any similar sites that we can test? It could be that the site has problems?
[09:24] <nishanth> one sec i could give you a different link
[09:24] <nishanth> but from the same site
[09:24] <nishanth> http://olangal.com/movies/watch-malayalam-movies-online/2057-surya.html
[09:25] <kermiac> that file's not working for me in a windows VM either. tried wmp & media player classic
[09:25] <nishanth> a different live stream
[09:25] <nigelb> well, mystery solved, server down I think
[09:26] <nigelb> 'You don't have permission to access /movies/watch-malayalam-movies-online/2057-surya.html on this server.
[09:26] <ddecator> i don't even get that warning, just nothing, haha
[09:26] <nishanth> well i have a different link from a different site....but i dont know if it is still live
[09:27] <nishanth> nigelb: at times they do go down.. but i cant play it even when they are live
[09:28] <kermiac> yup same for me in a vm ^^ no warning or anything - just blank/black
[09:28] <nigelb> nishanth: seems to be a trouble at the provider end, kermiac tested on windows too
[09:29] <nigelb> I just attened uds remotely, so I know live audio can be played
[09:29] <ddecator> nigelb: +1
[09:29] <nishanth> any of guys know any other website that use microsoft media server plugin
[09:29] <nigelb> ddecator: I did tell you about chromium right?
[09:29] <kermiac> nasa uses it IIRC
[09:30] <kermiac> & their videos work ok
[09:30] <ddecator> nigelb: that it's default for netbook but firefox is staying for desktop?
[09:30] <nishanth> so that i can confirm that this does not work for me
[09:30] <nigelb> ddecator: I told you it would be default for netbook for screen real estate
[09:30] <nigelb> desktop I was pretty sure mozilla team could make it :)
[09:31] <ddecator> nigelb: ah, that makes sense. ff4 should address that, but i understand they need something more immediate, at least for maverick
[09:31] <ddecator> i just realized that my notifications stopped >:(
[09:31] <nigelb> ddecator: yeah, also, I think they did a lot fo ground work with unity
[09:31] <nigelb> you saw the keynote right?
[09:32] <ddecator> part, not all
[09:32] <nishanth> one tangential question which is better lucid or karmic?????? i used lucid earlier but my computer freezes and had to hardboot hell lot of times
[09:32] <nigelb> nishanth: did you log a bug for those issues
[09:32] <ddecator> nishanth: waiting until a month after release usually helps =)
[09:32] <ddecator> but lucid is better imo
[09:32] <nigelb> lucid is by far the rest
[09:33] <nigelb> s/rest/best
[09:33] <nigelb> sigh, some day I'll learn to spell
[09:33] <nishanth> so wat is the verdict....upgrade now, or after one month or stay with karmic
[09:33] <kermiac> nishanth: I think it depends on the computer you use it on - on all but 1 of mine I agree that lucid is better. However on another i need to do a hard reboot 15 times or so before I can eventually log in
[09:34] <ddecator> nishanth: if you have an ati video card, i'd say wait
[09:34] <ddecator> ati is acting all kinds of strange on lucid...
[09:34] <kermiac> but that's a very weird laptop - HP HDX9300
[09:34] <nishanth> intel graphics card with i5 processor
[09:35] <ddecator> you _should_ be good then. you can always try with a live cd to see if that has any issues
[09:35] <kermiac> nishanth: with that config I would definitely install lucid
[09:35] <nigelb> try running a lucid livecd and checkout, works fine, go for it
[09:35] <nishanth> and yes i noticed that if i use  intel driver instead of vesa my computer freezes
[09:35] <ddecator> great minds...
[09:35] <nishanth> i mean on karmic
[09:35] <nigelb> ddecator: think alike :D
[09:35] <ddecator> nigelb: exactly, haha
[09:36] <nigelb> ddecator: haha
[09:36] <nishanth> anyone know why this could be that when i use intel driver instead of vesa my computer freezes?
[09:36] <nigelb> nishanth: please log bugs for issues you face so the X team can look into it
[09:37] <nishanth> nigelb : how do i do that...i am newbee to linux..still in the process of migration from windows
[09:38] <nigelb> ddecator: its on the find the right package page right?
[09:38] <ddecator> nigelb: not sure, let me check. i know xserver-xorg-video-intel is the default...
[09:39] <nigelb> ddecator: btw, try killing and restarting notify osd
[09:39] <nigelb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting
[09:40] <nigelb> ok, nishanth you may want to read ^ page for X troubles
[09:40] <nigelb> it may be technical, if you've got doubts, pop by in #ubuntu-bugs and explain you want to file a bug about freezes and what you're finding difficult
[09:40] <nigelb> btw, all 3 of us are always there so if you dont get response for sometime, feel free to ping one of us
[09:41] <nishanth> ok... i guess i have had enough help for today.. i am off to upgrade to lucid
[09:41] <nigelb> ok, happy upgrade :)
[09:41] <nishanth> thanx everyone
[09:42] <kermiac> have fun nishanth :)
[09:42] <zeroseven0183> enjoy
[09:42] <zeroseven0183> My turn: I just noticed that Nautilus is not recognizing my USB disks. It does not automount any flash drive I insert.
[09:43] <zeroseven0183> But Disk Utility detects them
[09:43] <zeroseven0183> Any thoughts?
[09:43] <ddecator> is nautilus set to automount external media?
[09:44] <zeroseven0183> I didn't change anything in Nautilus, so yes.
[09:44] <zeroseven0183> I believe Nautilus automounts external media by default, right?
[09:44] <ddecator> should
[09:44] <zeroseven0183> But I can mount the drives easily with Disk Utility
[09:45] <zeroseven0183> I'm wondering what went wrong
[09:45] <zeroseven0183> Last night I was able to see immediately the partition/USB drive
[09:45] <nigelb> hm, thats strage
[09:45] <zeroseven0183> But now, I have to do that
[09:46] <zeroseven0183> I'm thinking the last update I installed caused that but that's unusual
[09:46] <ddecator> does it persist after a restart?
[09:47] <zeroseven0183> Still a problem after a reboot
[09:48] <nigelb> trying the same media?
[09:48] <zeroseven0183> I have three different USB drives which I tested and none of them were automatically mounted by Nautilus
[09:49] <ddecator> try opening a nautilus window, then go to Edit > Preferances > Media and see if Browse Media when Inserted is checked
[09:49] <ddecator> not sure if that's related to mounting or not, but only option i see in the preferences window that's related
[09:50] <kermiac> zeroseven0183: try the steps outline at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[09:50] <nigelb> I see the same issue with cdrom on my computer
[09:50]  * ddecator looks for a nautilus bug report
[09:51] <zeroseven0183> I deactivated and reactivated the media_automount
[09:51] <zeroseven0183> But same thing
[09:51] <ddecator> what version of ubuntu?
[09:51] <zeroseven0183> as stated in the link kermiac posted
[09:51] <zeroseven0183> 10.04
[09:52] <zeroseven0183> nigelb: So you have the same issue with your CDRom?
[09:52] <kermiac> hmmm.... very strange
[09:52] <nigelb> zeroseven0183: yup, just manually mounted
[09:52] <nigelb> I shuold log a bug after restarting and confirming its not media specific
[09:53] <nigelb> but first, THGTTG
[09:53] <zeroseven0183> As soon as I insert the drive, I see it in the computer:/// (Location)
[09:53] <zeroseven0183> but it's not mounted automatically so that I can see it in the left panel
[09:54] <zeroseven0183> nigelb: Let me know the bug report number you're filing so I can "second the motion"
[09:54] <nigelb> I dont see it in computer:/// location unless I mount it manually
[09:54] <ddecator> yah, i'm not seeing any promising reports so far
[09:54] <nigelb> since this is a commericial vcd, could be something related to that
[09:55] <zeroseven0183> How about a USB flash drive?
[09:55] <nigelb> flash drive works beautifully
[09:56]  * nigelb goes afk, hitchhikers guide to the galexy bekons
[09:56] <ddecator> haha
[09:56] <zeroseven0183> cool
[09:58] <zeroseven0183> I found a thread similar to this issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1456174
[09:58] <ddecator> hm, only report i found that could be related says that other users are able to automount just fine
[09:58] <ddecator> it's hard to tell if nautilus really is at fault or not
[10:01] <ddecator> man, i loaded the forum and firefox froze...
[10:01] <ddecator> ah, there we go
[10:02] <ddecator> could be related. says it was fixed with an update though. have you checked to make sure there aren't any new updates?
[10:03] <zeroseven0183> As of now, I have all the updates installed
[10:05] <ddecator> what about running 'sudo fdisk -l' like it suggests on the forum?
[10:07] <zeroseven0183> It just lists the devices
[10:07] <zeroseven0183> and I can see it
[10:08] <ddecator> hm, on the forums the op couldn't see it...i'm honestly not sure what package is to blame here. i want to say nautilus, but i could be wrong
[10:08] <zeroseven0183> Wait, I'll try it with Lubuntu on the other partition
[10:12] <zeroseven0183> Automount works with Lubuntu
[10:13] <ddecator> supports nautilus then, but still not entirely sure
[10:18] <zeroseven0183> ddecator: Nautilus is really acting strange for the past few hours
[10:19] <ddecator> in other ways too?
[10:19] <zeroseven0183> Now that I'm back to Ubuntu, it's able to automount the drive
[10:19] <zeroseven0183> In just a matter of minutes :)
[10:19] <ddecator> haha, of course
[10:19] <ddecator> minutes? o.o
[10:20] <ddecator> well at least it's working i suppose...i need to get to bed though. hope it keeps working for you =)
[10:20] <zeroseven0183> Sure
[10:21] <zeroseven0183> Thanks
[10:30] <karl_k> hi all ! i have just upgraded to 10.4 on my netbook and suddenly all windows vanish
[10:31] <karl_k> whatever i open, it just gets minimized&vanishes immediately
[10:31] <karl_k> even the logout window vanishes
[10:35] <zeroseven0183> karl_k: Normally, I do a fresh install instead of upgrading
[10:35] <zeroseven0183> Because there are some unknown issues when upgrading
[10:36] <karl_k> well , that would be the windows way
[10:36] <zeroseven0183> Can you check if the programs are still running in System Monitor?
[10:36] <karl_k> but i see that my old usernames dont work at all, i have just added a new user, and the same problem
[10:36] <karl_k> the program run fine, they just seem to be minimized
[10:37] <karl_k> i can click the icon on the top left, the window shows up, but immediately vanishes again
[10:37] <karl_k> the normal gnome interface works fine, but the nbr doesnt, not the nbr not the nbr 2d
[10:38] <zeroseven0183> The UNE?
[10:38] <karl_k> yep
[10:38] <karl_k> in the login screen you can select gnome, nbe, nbe 2d. only the first works
[10:39] <zeroseven0183> Can you try booting to an earlier kernel?
[10:39] <zeroseven0183> Have you tried...\
[10:40] <karl_k> no i have not, which would be the correct kernel version for 10.4 ?
[10:40] <karl_k> i got lots...
[10:43] <zeroseven0183> 2.6.32-16
[10:43] <zeroseven0183> I believe
[10:43] <zeroseven0183> But just go one kernel version back at a time
[10:44] <karl_k> hmm i run 2.6.32-22-generic
[14:58] <knoxx> hi, i'm having problems with setting the X.conf to load the 1024x768 resolution on boot instead of nvidia-auto-select +0+0 , can you plz tell me what to put there instead of that line ?
[17:06] <kidtp> hello, does anyone know how to use wine? i am trying to download the htc sync for my droid erris, but it is only for windows. any help?
[17:13] <ZachK_> kidtp: i know how to use wine..somewhat
[17:14] <phillw> kidtp: either http://www.winehq.org/ or the main sub-forum area over at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=313
[17:14] <kidtp> zachk_: ok thanks
[17:15] <kidtp> phillw: thanks
[17:15] <ZachK_> kidtp: check out those links...should have all you need
[17:15] <ZachK_> good one phillw
[17:16] <drubin> kidtp: Have you gotten the file downloaded?
[17:17] <kidtp> drubin: when i try to download it an error pops up that says it is not a zipfile
[17:18] <kidtp> drubin: then i tried saving it instead and then maybe move it into wine but i am lost now
[17:18] <drubin> kidtp: Ok so where did you save the file too?
[17:18] <kidtp> drubin: i have no idea. it wouldn't let me choose
[17:20] <drubin> kidtp: it is possible in downloads
[17:21] <kidtp> drubin: ya i just found it
[17:21] <drubin> kidtp: Open up a terminal and type cd ~/Downloads/
[17:21] <kidtp> drubin: it is in downloads
[17:21] <drubin> then type "wine <filename.exe>" with out quotes
[17:21] <kidtp> ok
[17:21] <drubin> kidtp: that should install the sync software but I am not sure it will work with USB ;/
[17:22] <kidtp> i hope it does
[17:22] <drubin> kidtp: else what do you want to sync because most things you don't need software ;-p I have a nexus one and use it all the time with ubuntu
[17:23] <drubin> nhandler: please remove voice
[17:23] <kidtp> drubin: there is an update for droid eris and i want to get it but it will erase all my contacts and i dont feel like asking everyone again
[17:23] <drubin> kidtp: Are your contacts synced to google?
[17:23] <kidtp> drubin: how do i do that?
[17:24] <drubin> kidtp: I used mybackup from the market to backup my contacts
[17:24] <drubin> there is a trial 30day app, but that is all you need
[17:24] <drubin> "mybackup" is its name
[17:25] <drubin> it saves your backuped configs/sms/mms/contacts and other stuff to your SD kard
[17:25] <drubin> card
[17:27] <kidtp> hmm
[17:27] <kidtp> and then it will all be there after the update?
[17:28] <drubin> kidtp: It should
[17:28] <drubin> but updates shouldn't erase your stuff
[17:28] <drubin> but this backs it up so you can restore it after
[17:28] <kidtp> the update told me i would have to resync my contacts
[17:33] <kidtp> so i can back this up online too?
[17:33] <kidtp> i did the sd card option but where would online go?
[17:34] <drubin> kidtp: to their servers
[17:34] <drubin> but you have to pay for that
[17:34] <kidtp> oh ok
[17:35] <kidtp> if it erases my apps do i just reinstall the app to get every thing back?, drubin
[17:35] <drubin> kidtp: Yes
[17:35] <drubin> that is what I did
[17:35] <drubin> but as for your backupnig up your contacts to google
[17:36] <drubin> kidtp: simply go to settings account and sync and enable it ;=p
[17:37] <kidtp> drubin: i hope your right
[17:38] <drubin> kidtp: try a few backup apps
[17:38] <kidtp> drubin: im installing the update right now...a little too late lol
[17:39] <kidtp> drubin it is taking awhile to download
[17:39] <drubin> I have updated my N1 a few times
[18:53] <ps__> i am planning to upgrade from jaunty to lucid on a dual boot machine...is there any other way (like using synaptic) instead of fresh install
[18:55] <nishanth> what does this mean.....(EE) VESA kernel modesetting driver in use refuse to load
[18:56] <nishanth> it comes with a prompt saying ubuntu running in low graphics mode
[19:06] <nishanth> what does this mean.....(EE) VESA kernel modesetting driver in use refuse to load, it comes with a prompt saying ubuntu running in low graphics mode
[19:19] <nishanth> what does this mean.....(EE) VESA kernel modesetting driver in use refuse to load
 it comes with a prompt saying ubuntu running in low graphics mode
[19:24] <drubin> kidtp: did you get sorted
[19:24] <kidtp> drubin: ya thanks
[19:25] <kidtp> drubin: i had to shut off my laptop to go outside and help my dad. it has been done for awhile now
[19:26] <drubin> kidtp: No worries just thought I would check up
[19:27] <kidtp> drubin: so if i install and uninstall the app will the trial start over?
[19:27] <drubin> kidtp: Not sure
[19:28] <kidtp> drubin: im guessing you just bought it?
[19:34] <nishanth> anyone know how to fix a badly configured video driver?
[19:53] <nishanth> anyone know what this mean.....(EE) VESA kernel modesetting driver in use refuse to load, it comes with a prompt saying ubuntu running in low graphics mode
[20:28] <nishanth> so dead
[20:58] <AJH101> Hi can anyone help me to get Transmission (torrent client) to auto start please?
[20:59] <pedro3005> hello AJH101
[21:00] <AJH101> Hi
[21:00] <pedro3005> Have you tried inserting it at System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications?
[21:01] <AJH101> have got the 'auto remember running apps' tcked but no joy
[21:01] <AJH101> where do I find the app to choose?
[21:02] <pedro3005> AJH101, just put 'transmission' as the command
[21:02] <pedro3005> without quotes
[21:02] <AJH101> pedro thanks will let you know how it works!
[21:02] <AJH101> thanks
[21:08] <ZachK_> hey Appl6!
[21:09] <Appl6> Hello.
[21:11] <ZachK_> Appl6: how be you today?
[21:13] <Appl6> ZachK_: Well, thanks.
[21:14] <ZachK_> :-D
[21:28] <daimaru> um test test :)
[21:29] <daimaru> does anyone know a tool to monitor cpu frequency on intel core i5-750 cpu ?
[21:30] <daimaru> cpufrequtils does not work, neither does CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor applet
[21:37] <Appl6> daimaru: What do you mean "does not work"?  Also, you can try "less /proc/cpuinfo" from a terminal, and look for the lines starting with "cpu MHz" to indicate the frequency of each core.
[21:53] <daimaru> proc cpuinfo gives me cpu MHz: 3715.457 but when i try to add the montitoring applet to the panel i get an error saying that cpu scaling is unsupported
[21:54] <daimaru> model name:Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750  @ 2.67GHz   \n cpu MHz: 3715.457
[21:54] <daimaru> just not sure if it is the actual frequency its running since i cant monitor it in realtime
[21:59] <Appl6> daimaru: Please put my nick in your messages.
[21:59] <daimaru> @Appl6 sorry new to this
[22:00] <Appl6> daimaru: CPU scaling means _changing_ the frequency.  Monitoring is different from changing.  If your CPU does not, in fact, support CPU scaling, then you don't have to monitor the frequency; the frequency will always be the same.
[22:00] <Appl6> daimaru: However, I don't know whether or not your CPU supports scaling.  It may just be that Linux, or cpufrequtils, or whatever it is, _thinks_ your CPU doesn't support it.
[22:01] <daimaru> @Appl6 yeah i think so too the intel i5 series has this Turbo boost thing and I just wanted to see if it actually works under linux
[22:03] <Appl6> daimaru: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1321028&page=2
[22:06] <Appl6> daimaru: See also the link to the Red Hat Knowledgebase that is mentioned in the thread (copied here for convenience): http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-17124
[22:08] <daimaru_> @Appl6: thank and sorry just encountered a new and weird problem. which i thougt i had solved. my keyboard seems to sometimes just stop working. only since 10.04 never before did it now work. thats why i had to restart just now to get typing back :)
[22:09] <daimaru_> Appl6: will check the forum thread thank you and i guess i will have to troubleshoot the keyboard thing somehow
[22:10] <Appl6> daimaru_: No problem.  Do you have a wireless keyboard?  Can you look at "dmesg | less" and see if there's anything strange related to your keyboard.
[22:11] <daimaru_> Appl6: no thats just the weird thing. its plugged in not wireless
[22:11] <Appl6> daimaru_: If the keyboard is really a problem, you can add an onscreen keyboard to the panel, so that you can at least do something before restarting.
[22:12] <daimaru_> Appl6: never had a problem like that before and thought i had solved it because it used to happen within the first 5 minutes of system start normally. now my system was up and running for 5 hours give or take.
[22:12] <daimaru_> Appl6: Cool how do i get the onscreen keyboard=
[22:13] <Appl6> daimaru_: Right click on the panel, select Add to Panel.
[22:13] <Appl6> daimaru_: Select Custom Application Launcher.
[22:13] <daimaru_> Appl6: yep
[22:13] <Appl6> daimaru_: Name: Onscreen Keyboard    Command: onboard    then click OK.
[22:14] <Appl6> daimaru_: Actually, you can name it whatever you want.
[22:14] <daimaru_> Appl6: ok done works thanks alot
[22:14] <Appl6> daimaru_: Sure.
[22:14] <daimaru_> Appl6: at least now i can tell you if it stops working again. last time i was sitting there copy pasting "brb" and then realizing that i cant copy the enter command :)
[22:16] <Appl6> daimaru_: Are you using Pidgin?
[22:16] <daimaru_> Appl6: do you have any idea which log i could look into (now that i restarted) where there might still be something about the keyboard thing logged ?  -- pidgin=no
[22:16] <Appl6> daimaru_: Yes, the "dmesg | less" would look at one of the logs.
[22:17] <Appl6> daimaru_: You can also look at "less /var/log/messages"
[22:18] <daimaru_> Appl6: yeah looking at it right now, but isnt the stuff in /var/log/messages cleared durring reboot?
[22:18] <Appl6> daimaru_: You may be right.  I'm not sure.
[22:20] <daimaru_> Appl6: just checking the sytem log viewer it has the old logs too. but will take some time to find something about keyboard. i did see this but not sure if its normal --> module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. [    5.932697] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
[22:20] <daimaru_> Appl6: will take a thorough look at the logs. Tanks for your help
[22:21] <Appl6> Appl6: /var/log/messages does get reset, but you should have older versions (messages.1, messages.2, maybe others) in your /var/log directory.
[22:23] <Appl6> daimaru_: "tainting" the kernel means that you're using a non-free driver (for your NVIDIA card).  This is to let anyone debugging the kernel know that the problem might be coming from this module where the source isn't available.
[22:23] <daimaru_> Appl6: ok
[22:27] <daimaru_> Appl6: well i cant find anything in the logs. all the older logs from today are from the morning. and the ones from just now don't say anything special. Guess I will have to google a bit to see if anyone else has had this problem.
[22:30] <Appl6> daimaru_: A kind of shotgun solution is "sudo grep -r keyboard /var/log | less"
[22:34] <daimaru_> Appl6: gonna look through that. but found alot of other people having problems with keyboard and mouse in ubuntu 10.04. my mouse acted up once too. like it was not polling correctly or something. but the keyboard thing seems to be more frequent.
[22:36] <Appl6> daimaru_: Can you paste some links, please?
[22:37] <daimaru_> Appl6: http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/ubuntu-10-04-full-bugs-keyboard-stops-working-seems-popular-help-197822851.html
[22:37] <daimaru_> Appl6: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1468165&page=2
[22:39] <daimaru_> Appl6: this one seems to be more informative http://blog.ichinmay.com/2010/05/03/ubuntu-10-04-upgrade-from-9-10-usb-keyboard-mouse-problem/
[22:44] <daimaru_> Appl6: damn most people have the problem that their keyboard does not work from the start. mine does so it will probably be harder to find a solution. Its a bit late here so i am going to bed. But i will post this problem on ubuntuforums.org with the log file attached, incase you are not in this chat server tomorrow. you can find me under my username daimaru.
[22:44] <daimaru_> Appl6: thanks for your help and input will let you know if i find a fix. night
[22:44] <Appl6> daimaru_: Bye.
[22:45] <daimaru_> Appl6: bye