[04:01] <nigelb> cjohnston: heya, back home?
[11:40] <Pendulum> morning
[11:41] <Pendulum> nigelb: he wasn't leaving Belgium until today. I suspect it'll be another 12-hoursish until he's home
[11:42]  * jussi waves to Pendulum
[11:43] <Pendulum> hiya jussi
[11:45] <qense> Hello everyone!
[12:01] <nigelb> Pendulum: yeah, I skyped him a litter later
[12:01] <nigelb> aarg, little
[12:01] <nigelb> heya jussi :)
[12:28] <qense> nigelb: This is wat the rooms looked like, in case you haven't seen a picture yet: <http://www.flickr.com/photos/qense/4610914617/in/photostream/>.
[12:28] <nigelb> qense: thank you :) I saw videos
[12:28] <nigelb> but its nice to see good quality photos :)
[12:28] <qense> ah, good
[12:29] <qense> good quality, funny joke
[12:29] <nigelb> qense: you haven't seen the videos yet I suppose
[12:29] <qense> I have, but my camera isn't exactly top-quality.
[12:29] <nigelb> its similar to mine :)
[12:33] <nigelb> qense: you took what 5 photos?
[12:34] <qense> nigelb: A little more, but those were duplicates. ;)
[12:34] <qense> I depend on others for more fun photos.
[12:34] <nigelb> qense: haha! you need to learn about photography :D
[12:34] <nigelb> about appreciating the beauty around yo
[12:35] <nigelb> last time I took my camera for a team dinner, I clicked 150 pics (well, around 20 ro 30 were bad)
[12:36] <qense> My camera isn't really nice and it uses its batteries real quick.
[12:36] <nigelb> yeah, I generally carry 3 sets of baterries
[12:36] <nigelb> mine's a kodak too
[12:44] <qense> nigelb: If people start adding stuff to the Flickr map things should show up here: <http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/uds-m/map>. Ask them to! ;)
[12:45] <nigelb> qense: the bunch I saw were on facebook mostly
[12:45] <qense> aww
[12:45] <qense> Facebook :S
[12:45] <qense> Facebook scales the pictures down.
[12:45] <nigelb> yeah
[12:45] <nigelb> tats why I like flickr
[12:50] <qense> Everyone, correctly tagged pictures should appear t <http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/udsm/>.
[12:50] <qense> the hyphen doesn't really amtter
[12:55] <qense> However, there also appears to be an African (Ugandan?) organisation called UDSM, so things might be confused.
[13:38] <qense> Told the story about the UDS hotel making a small fuss about me not having a credit card. My sister said "I want a credit card, then I can go shopping!" ... Credit cards are Very Bad(TM). You shouldn't pay with money you don't have or may not have.
[14:10] <Mamarok> it would be nice to remove those red eyes before uploading pics, looks scary
[14:36] <Mamarok> hm, maybe tagging with uds-m would take away some confusion
[14:37] <Mamarok> doesn't seem to hel, they don't make a differenc with or without the hyphen
[14:43] <qense> no
[15:12] <nigelb> qense: thanks for arranging the tagging.  Nice to se all the photos together :)
[15:12] <qense> nigelb: arranging? How did I arrange it?
[15:13] <nigelb> well, announcing
[15:14] <nigelb> for the group photo who was it sitting on the track leads?
[15:15] <qense> Is the group photo already online?!
[15:15] <qense> Where?
[15:16] <nigelb> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kwwii/4610334160/sizes/o/
[15:16] <nigelb> yay Internet
[15:16] <nigelb> qense: ^
[15:16] <qense> thanks!
[15:17] <qense> That are multiple photos stitched together, by the way.
[15:19] <qense> nigelb: The track leads are wearing orange t-shirts, and they're spreaded throughout the audience.
[15:19] <nigelb> I can recognize AlanBel, popey, czajkowski, jono, jcastro, amber, pete, rick, benjamin, riddel, chris, ivanka, lyz
[15:19] <nigelb> qense: look at bottom-most row
[15:20] <nigelb> Pendulum: where art thou in the pic? I cant find you
[15:20] <popey> nigelb: sil/aq is next to me
[15:20] <qense> nigelb: pendulum always at at the top of the bottom section in the middle walk.
[15:20] <popey> oh maybe not
[15:21] <qense> not here
[15:21] <nigelb> popey: ah, thats sil :)
[15:21] <nigelb> was Pendulum wearing a pink shirt, I think she's on top right, but I may be wrong
[15:21] <popey> image still loading for me
[15:22] <nigelb> popey: who;s that sitting on jono, pete, and rick's lap?
[15:22] <popey> pen is next to alan bell
[15:22] <qense> I never know who's Alan Bell and who's Alan Pope. But now I do because I just remember the Mumbuntu talk while typing.
[15:22] <nigelb> popey: top row right.  Alan Bell with a black t?
[15:22] <popey> yes
[15:23] <qense> nigelb: have you found me already?
[15:23] <popey> ah i am between sladen and david planella
[15:23] <qense> yeah
[15:23] <popey> Claire Newman is on the laps on the guys at the front
[15:24] <nigelb> ahhh.  what does she do?
[15:24] <popey> Marks PA
[15:24] <nigelb> popey: sladen is the guy with long hair?
[15:24] <nigelb> ahh :)
[15:25] <nigelb> I like the look of the guy siting next to pete.  its like 'I have not part in this'
[15:25] <nigelb> or 'eek, she's hot her heels on my jeans' hahaha
[15:25] <qense> :D
[15:25] <nigelb> I looooove jcastro's jersey hehe
[15:26] <nigelb> detroid red wings I think
[15:26] <nigelb> *detroit
[15:26] <nigelb> I have no clue how I know that.  I've never even watched ice hockey.
[15:27] <nigelb> qense: gimme a clue as to where you are or what color shirt you're wearing
[15:27] <qense> nigelb: grey t-short :)
[15:27] <qense> not very helpful
[15:28] <qense> close to sabdfl
[15:29] <popey> behind and to the left
[15:30] <qense> yes
[15:31] <qense> I had expected to look worse on the group photo, but this is not too bad. Not as good as the guy in the black t-shirt behind the monitor at the first row, though. ;)
[15:33] <popey> cant believe martin couldn't put his ipad down for 30 seconds
[15:34] <qense> He must be addicted to it already. Wouldn't be surprised if Apple puts something in it that makes you can't put it away.
[15:34] <popey> the aliminium case has crack embedded in it
[15:38] <qense> probably
[15:45] <AlanBell> ooh group photo :-)
[15:45] <qense> It's there!
[15:46] <qense> I would also like to ask everyone here again to put their UDS photos on the Flickr map <http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/uds-m/map>. Just because it is possible. :)
[15:52] <AlanBell> I really like that sabdfl is just sat in a random place somewhere in the middle
[15:53] <nigelb> qense: found you, diagonal above sabdfl
[15:53] <nigelb> was afk, power went out
[15:54] <qense> Correct!
[15:54] <qense> A shame power went out.
[15:54] <qense> AlanBell: yeah, in the middle of the people
[15:56] <nigelb> doctormo bought an ipad?
[15:56] <qense> He meant another Martin, at the front row.
[15:56] <nigelb> ahh
[15:56] <nigelb> well, whoever it is, 'traitor!' haha
[15:56] <nigelb> AlanBell: +1, I liked that too
[15:56] <AlanBell> chap with a cap on
[15:57] <nigelb> nothing flashy either
[15:57] <AlanBell> he is hacking it to run Ubuntu
[15:57] <nigelb> oh, cool.  I hope apple doesn't sue him
[15:57] <nigelb> where's mdz? I can't find him :(
[16:01] <nigelb> qense: is vish wearing a black coat or something?
[16:01] <qense> nigelb: he's at the left top, not very sharp
[16:02] <nigelb> blue T?
[16:02] <AlanBell> it would be good to put that image somewhere with a collaborative image map tagging thing so we could put an onhover name on everyone
[16:02] <nigelb> yeah, poke kwii
[16:02] <qense> It is huge. :P
[16:02] <qense> It sure needs crowd-source to tag people.
[16:03] <qense> AlanBell: What website would you suggest to do it with?
[16:03] <AlanBell> no idea, I think facebook does something like that, never used it myself
[16:03] <AlanBell> I could code it :-)
[16:03] <nigelb> flickr can do it :)
[16:03] <qense> nigelb: But can you point where people are?
[16:03] <AlanBell> I am not really in to online photo stuff
[16:04] <nigelb> yeah, but first the owner needs to allow us to do it
[16:04] <hihihi100> can any of u help me with an IBUS issue?
[16:04] <hihihi100> I cannot see the icons that should appear on the left of any line of the combo box
[16:05] <nigelb> hihihi100: have you tried asking #ubuntu?
[16:05] <nigelb> this really isn't a support channel
[16:05] <hihihi100> nope, ill go there
[16:05] <qense> nigelb: Ah, I see.
[16:05] <qense> AlanBell: ping kwwii to allow us to do so and get everyone on Flickr!
[16:06] <qense> nigelb: Downside: we'd need everyone to get a Flickr account for it to work.
[16:06] <nigelb> qense: yeah, thats there
[16:06] <qense> nigelb: or maybe not, let me test
[16:07] <qense> nigelb: yes, the person has to be registered
[16:07] <qense> nigelb: wait, I think you can add people using the email address, they then can confirm it.
[16:08] <nigelb> oooh, nice :)
[16:09] <qense> AlanBell, nigelb: Confirmed. You can add people with their email address if they're not on Flickr, but they will have to confirm, and I'm not sure if they have to register or so.
[16:09] <nigelb> qense: worth it, I'd say
[16:10] <AlanBell> cool, kwii has labled it "first version" of the photo so there might be a bit of further enhancement that can be done
[16:10] <qense> yeah, maybe he wants to upload a better version first
[16:10]  * AlanBell is not too unhappy about the soft focus top right
[16:10] <qense> otherwise we'd have to upload again
[16:10] <nigelb> AlanBell: I think he'll be doing more work on it
[16:10] <qense> we'd have to tag again*
[16:10] <nigelb> jcastro did threaten that you have to wait for 10 minutes if someone moved, etc
[16:11] <nigelb> so if it doesn't turn out clear, kick him haha
[16:18] <qense> Actually, Flickr's people tagging thing is pretty neat.
[16:18] <qense> It works great.
[16:19] <nigelb> hehe.  That's why everyone loves flickr :)
[16:19] <qense> The only problem is that almost no one of my family is on Flickr.
[16:20] <nigelb> what I like best is the access control
[16:20] <nigelb> you can control he license and visibility of each photo
[16:21] <qense> yeah
[16:21] <qense> It's done really nicely.
[16:21] <qense> A shame it's using Yahoo!'s horrible account system.
[16:21] <qense> or that it is owned by Yahoo! at all.
[16:22] <nigelb> I really don't care who owns what if the service is awesome
[16:22] <qense> nigelb: I think I've added you as a friend on Flickr, is that correct?
[16:22] <nigelb> qense: yep
[16:22] <qense> good
[16:23] <czajkowski> aloha
[16:23] <Pendulum> hiya czajkowski
[16:23] <qense> hi czajkowski
[16:23] <nigelb> czajkowski: hola.  We were just looking at the photos trying to guess who's where
[16:24] <czajkowski> what pics?
[16:24]  * czajkowski just got a chinese dinner
[16:24] <czajkowski> nyoomy
[16:24] <qense> czajkowski: kwwii has just posted the first version of the group photo
[16:24] <Pendulum> czajkowski: the group photo
[16:24] <nigelb> czajkowski: the group photo!
[16:24] <qense> and there are of course others
[16:24] <czajkowski> came home to an empty house and then drunken sister
[16:24] <qense> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kwwii/4610334160/in/faves-qense/
[16:24] <nigelb> Pendulum: you're on the pink right?
[16:24] <nigelb> errr.. pink shirt
[16:24] <czajkowski> just done an ikea run to box up my stuff, have to be out of here in 14 days
[16:24] <Pendulum> i'm wearing white in the pic, but it might look pink
[16:25] <nigelb> next to alan?
[16:25] <qense> czajkowski: That's a short period! I hope you'll have enough time to pack properly.
[16:25] <nigelb> Pendulum: hm, perhaps white ;)
[16:26] <nigelb> anyone know who's james tatum in the photos?
[16:26] <Pendulum> nigelb: yes, next to alan
[16:26] <nigelb> he was awfully nice to us remote folks, posting pictures of all the slides
[16:27] <nigelb> Im guesing he's the guy in brown in bottom left corner, but not sure
[16:27] <nigelb> just judging from the angle of the photos
[16:28] <nigelb> hm, best part, I'm able to identify folks I've never met :/
[16:28] <nigelb> czajkowski: you've got a pink mini?
[16:29] <nigelb> um, dell mini :D
[16:29] <pleia2> red
[16:29] <czajkowski> RED
[16:29] <czajkowski> lordie
[16:29] <nigelb> oh yeah red
[16:29]  * nigelb saw the video 2 days back! cut me some slack 
[16:29] <czajkowski> :)
[16:30] <nigelb> czajkowski: 90% of the time, I make you out by your hair ;)
[16:30] <nigelb> I'm very bad with faces per se, but remember everything else
[16:30] <czajkowski> heh ok
[16:31]  * nigelb dinner and then bed
[16:31] <nigelb> gotta get to work at 0530
[16:32] <nigelb> later folks, good morning, good afternoon, and good night (as applicable) ;)
[16:32] <qense> good bye!
[16:41] <diwic> Where should the expense form for UDS-M be sent to?
[16:45] <popey> the email should say
[16:45] <popey> marianna
[16:46] <diwic> Should I get an email? I just saw the expense form on the UDS-M wiki page.
[16:46] <popey> were you sponsored?
[16:46] <qense> diwic: or are you an employee?
[16:47] <diwic> I will be an employee in August
[16:47] <qense> ah, nice
[16:47] <diwic> If that means I'm sponsored now, I'm not exactly sure :-)
[16:48] <popey> you should know if you're sponsored
[16:48] <qense> When in doubt: you're not.
[16:48] <popey> i.e. your flight/accomodation paid
[16:48] <diwic> My flight was paid by BTS travel.
[16:48] <popey> contact marianna to clarify
[16:48] <popey> we cant help really
[16:49] <diwic> ok, you're not employees, right?
[16:50]  * diwic remembers qense from UDS-M but is less sure about popey.
[16:50] <popey> some people here are, most arent
[16:50] <qense> I'm not an employee, but I was sponsored.
[16:50] <popey> ditto
[16:51] <Pendulum> same for me
[16:51] <diwic> Have you got an email telling you where to direct your expenses?
[16:51] <popey> yes
[16:51] <qense> I got a mail witht he form
[16:51] <popey> from marianna
[16:51] <popey> as I said, contact marianna for more detail
[16:51] <diwic> ok
[16:52] <diwic> unless it says something private/individual, would you mind forwarding that email to me?
[16:53] <diwic> all information is helpful :-)
[16:54] <qense> diwic: what's the job you'll get in August?
[16:55] <diwic> qense: fixing audio bugs. Btw, you might remember me from the discussion about mentorship admins where there were just four of us
[16:56] <qense> diwic: ah, you were the one opposite to me, behind Carlos?
[16:57] <diwic> qense: I was the one running the gobby/firefox computer
[16:57] <qense> diwic: Ah! that guy!
[16:57] <qense> I'll forward the mail to you
[16:58] <diwic> qense: haha, ok :-)
[16:59] <qense> Congratulations with your new job, by the way.
[17:00] <diwic> thanks, and thanks for the email!
[17:01] <diwic> Although it's the community which should have the real thanks, with all the free hours we/they spend on making Ubuntu better :-)
[17:02] <diwic> The interaction between the community and Canonical is very interesting, how they give back to each other
[17:03] <diwic> I hope I'll be able to contribute back to the community as a Canonical employee by helping people with their bugs and by making Ubuntu better.
[17:03] <qense> diwic: good luck!
[17:04] <diwic> The same to you :-)
[17:05] <diwic> I'll also be working with OEMs to make their audio hardware work on Ubuntu.
[17:07] <qense> Nice to have someone paid to work on these issues.
[17:11] <diwic> definitely. It's also nice to have the community working on these issues. (I guess there isn't a place in the entire Ubuntu planet where we don't feel we need more manpower...)
[17:11] <qense> true
[17:11] <diwic> Which is where your work with the mentoring program is appreciated :-)
[17:13] <qense> good!
[17:15] <diwic> Have a nice day and thanks for helping out.
[17:22] <qense> have a nice day!
[17:52] <qense> hello jcastro!
[17:54] <nigelb> heya jcastro
[17:58] <qense> jcastro: Have you seen the group photo already? kwwii put a first version on Flickr and the whole Ubuntu community on Twitter seems to be talking about it.
[19:37] <qense> jono's back?!
[19:39] <qense> nope
[19:59] <bencrisford> qense: lol