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peturiHey00:00
peturiI need a point to the right direction00:00
peturiWhre can i read more aobut how to get my application accepted to the official repos?00:00
jpdspeturi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages00:05
xnoxjpds, =) I haven't met you before. What sort of things are you working on ? =)00:16
peturithanks00:31
psusiblast... my ureadahead changes and defrag only shaved 5 seconds off the boot time on my new laptop... still takes 30 seconds to boot, all but 5 of which is after ureadahead finishes.. cpu seems to be a little slow04:50
psusion the up side, it didn't hose the fs ;)04:51
psusinow to figure out why the ncurses interface didn't work from the initramfs....04:51
psusiohh, heh... the static binary isn't linked against ncurses... heh05:06
echosystmim curious09:14
echosystmare all packages maintained by canonical staff?09:14
echosystmor are some packagse maintaiened by the community09:14
geserpackages in main are mostly "maintained" by canonical paid devs (but there are also some community devs working on them) where "universe" is community maintained09:16
nigelbgeser: you beat me that ;)09:16
nigelb*to that09:16
echosystmi'd like to get into linux development09:16
echosystmand eventually maintain a package09:16
echosystmgot any advice for a newbie?09:17
echosystmi dont really know where to start09:17
geserthe people maintaining the Ubuntu kernel are in #ubuntu-kernel09:17
geser(you might need to wait till Monday when everyone is back from the weekend (and UDS))09:18
echosystmim not so into the kernel09:19
echosystmi meant some userland package09:19
nigelbAlso, if you're looking at maintaing individual packages, the best thing to do would be to take care of an orphaned package in debian09:19
echosystmi guess the obvious thing is to find a package im particularly interested in09:20
echosystmor i could do that nigelb09:20
echosystmgood idea :)09:20
gesersorry, just got up (and didn't have a coffee yet)09:20
nigelbubuntu does not have a per package maintainer most of the time, we just have MOTUs who take care of the entire universe09:20
nigelbor core devs09:20
echosystmoh09:20
echosystmhm09:20
nigelbthere is this big list of orphaned debian packages, taking of it would help what flows downstream into ubuntu09:21
nigelbhttp://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/09:22
echosystmseems like any of the interesting packages require previous knowledge of the packages internal workings09:28
echosystmhow can people actually know these things straight up? surely most people would have to learn first09:28
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MausPHello. At work I get a notebook with SSD. Want to install Lucid. afaik Lucid uses kernel 2.6.32. But ATA TRIM support was included to linux kernel 2.6.33.14:51
MausPdoes anybody know if canonical backported TRIM to their 2.6.32 kernel?14:52
LucidFoxMausP> You can just update to a newer kernel from the kernel team PPA.14:52
LucidFoxgranted, this is dangerous14:52
MausPLucidFox: already found this http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.33.3-lucid/14:53
crimsunMausP: in short, no, but there will be ways of getting newer kernel backports for LTS14:54
MausPthanks. just wanted to know if it is possibly needless to install a kernel that's not supported14:56
rdzhi all, i would like to test a patch for a certain kernel module (video driver). i figured out, that my trouble starts much earlier. i can compile the original driver, but the resulting module is not loadable.16:40
rdzso either, the sources that i downloaded are _not_ the sources for the kernel-image i am currently running, or i am doing something wrong16:41
rdzi am running 2.6.31-10-rt and i installed the sources with : apt-get source linux-image-2.6.31-10-rt16:41
rdzis anyone able to compile gspca_ov534.ko (drivers/media/video/gspca/ov534.c) from linux-image-2.6.31-10-rt sources for said kernel?18:04
rdzcompilations goes fine, but the resulting module has mismatching symbol versions18:04
ScottKrdz: You might have more luck in #ubuntu-kernel, but not this weekend since most of the kernel team is travelling.18:11
rdzScottK, thanks. nice for them :-)18:18
crimsunkees: for a setgid daemon in Maverick, should we be pursuing fine-grained caps instead?19:26
crimsunTheMuso: have ossp mostly source-version-3'd, will ask on pkg-pulseaudio-devel19:56
Sarvattwould anyone mind hitting retry on libxfont on everything but i386? they build fine now that the other synced packages are caught up - https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxfont/1:1.4.1-219:59
crimsundone.20:01
Sarvattthanks!20:03
crimsunyw20:04
psusicjwatson, I'm pretty sure that the dmraid regression in lucid is caused by libdevmapper... something changed causing it to add the p to the partition name just before the lucid release, but I can only get lp to show me the very last version... can you think of anything you might have changed that would do that?20:47
psusicjohnston, sorry, I meant libparted20:48
psusiBINGO!  found it... now how the hell did that line get there?21:15
psusibah... another change by Hans de Goede21:20
* psusi sets out to revert another change of his21:24
mkarnickiguys, are there any common tools to make GUI mockups (in sense of drawings)? I have seen similarly-themed GUI drawings on ubuntu wiki here and there22:16
mkarnickiusually they had dotted background and where drawn with pencil-like lines22:17
RoAkSoAxmkarnicki, balsamiq22:27
andreasnmkarnicki, actually, it's those are pen and paper: http://incompetech.com/graphpaper/squaredots/22:27
RoAkSoAxmkarnicki, i.e. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TestdriveFrontend22:27
* psusi prepares to drop an SRU, oh boy22:38
* psusi shakes his head at his goofy wife22:44
mkarnickiRoAkSoAx: andreasn: thank you :)23:10
mkarnickiRoAkSoAx: andreasn: yeah, I think both methods are good, thanks!23:11

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