| Red_HamsterX | Less productive than I'd hoped, but I think I've got the full relationship model for the server's database worked out. (And about 40% implemented in code) | 00:50 |
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| daker | guys where can i find the new ubuntu font? | 00:55 |
| godbyk | daker: It hasn't been released yet. | 00:55 |
| daker | oki | 00:56 |
| daker | godbyk, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual-website/ubuntu-manual-website/uslc | 01:20 |
| godbyk | daker: cool! | 01:23 |
| daker | :) | 01:23 |
| godbyk | You're insanely good at taking pictures and turning them into web pages. :) | 01:24 |
| daker | not pictures, i sent a email to humphreybc then he sent me the psd | 01:25 |
| godbyk | ah, cool. | 01:25 |
| godbyk | still. :) | 01:25 |
| daker | thanks | 01:25 |
| happyaron | hi, I've just uploaded several screenshots for zh_CN language, who will review and approve it? | 03:16 |
| daker | see with ubuntujenkins | 03:17 |
| happyaron | daker: thanks | 03:17 |
| happyaron | godbyk: and hi, is there any progress about the pdfs? | 03:18 |
| === Daker is now known as daker | ||
| Red_HamsterX | ubuntujenkins, I think I've got a solution to the problem of training users to expand windows without maximizing them. | 15:09 |
| Red_HamsterX | As a plus, it'll allow us to make corners appear rounded. | 15:10 |
| Red_HamsterX | A simple script-mapping feature on the server that, at approval-time, allows the operator to choose which filters to apply to the image with a few checkboxes. | 15:10 |
| Red_HamsterX | Each one will take an image and apply a transformation routine to it, like how we patched the button order. | 15:11 |
| Red_HamsterX | If we add a 1px border tyo images and overlay rounded edges with transparency, we should be able to make maximized windows look consistent enough. | 15:13 |
| nisshh | check this out: http://poststuff5.entensity.net/051410/flash.php?media=dog.flv | 15:24 |
| daker | Red_HamsterX, i got something for you | 15:42 |
| Red_HamsterX | Is it candy? | 15:43 |
| daker | wait a minute | 15:43 |
| nisshh | really early christmas present? | 15:44 |
| daker | no :D | 15:45 |
| nisshh | awwwwwww | 15:46 |
| Red_HamsterX | Even if it were, I wouldn't share. =P | 15:46 |
| ubuntujenkins | Red_HamsterX: thats a great idea. | 15:50 |
| Red_HamsterX | I'll try to get a simple multi-window demo done for you during lunch breaks this week. | 15:51 |
| nisshh | Red_HamsterX: is not a good idea, didnt you know that you HAVE to give me a share in it? :) | 15:52 |
| Red_HamsterX | It shouldn't be hard to do; I'll just need to find a bit of time. | 15:52 |
| Red_HamsterX | No... No, I did not. | 15:52 |
| ubuntujenkins | Red_HamsterX: thanks no rush I have uni work to do at the moment. I finish in a month so down to quickshot then | 15:52 |
| daker | Red_HamsterX, Bazaar want work for me | 16:01 |
| daker | give me your email | 16:01 |
| daker | he starts working :) | 16:02 |
| Red_HamsterX | red.hamsterx@gmail.com, neil.tallim@gmail.com, flan@uguu.ca (Take your pick) | 16:02 |
| daker | back | 16:23 |
| daker | Red_HamsterX, now pull the server branch | 16:23 |
| Red_HamsterX | Done. | 16:28 |
| Red_HamsterX | I'll integrate those changes as soon as they become relevant. | 16:28 |
| Red_HamsterX | (I'm doing a from-scartch redesign right now) | 16:28 |
| daker | oki | 16:29 |
| Red_HamsterX | (But I'll consult your code whenever I need to do something visual) | 16:29 |
| daker | sure | 16:29 |
| * Red_HamsterX is trying to decide between purely natural keys and surrogates with natural indexes... | 16:30 | |
| Red_HamsterX | The longest natural key would be three columns, with a clear parent-child relationship between them. | 16:31 |
| Red_HamsterX | So it's more of a data-usage concern than a speed concern. | 16:31 |
| daker | can you explain what you going to do ? | 16:37 |
| Red_HamsterX | I'm working on the multiple-projects-on-a-single-server model. | 16:37 |
| Red_HamsterX | My main concern is with logging events. | 16:38 |
| Red_HamsterX | Though it's probably not worth the effort I'm putting into it. | 16:38 |
| Red_HamsterX | The overhead's, like, 20 bytes per row. | 16:38 |
| Red_HamsterX | ...And I could probably just move that cost into the filesystem. | 16:39 |
| godbyk | If it's something that can be easily modified/fixed later, then you can put it off. If it'll be a big hassle to change it later, better to fix it now. At least that's the policy I usually take. :) | 16:40 |
| Red_HamsterX | Same. | 16:40 |
| Red_HamsterX | I just really hate surrogate keys. | 16:40 |
| godbyk | "Move it into the filesystem".. using naming scheme? Or more reads/writes to the fs? | 16:40 |
| Red_HamsterX | Use a naming scheme. | 16:40 |
| Red_HamsterX | Possibly a directory hierarchy. | 16:40 |
| godbyk | ah, gotcha. | 16:41 |
| godbyk | as long as they're all safe names. | 16:41 |
| godbyk | (nothing too funky that the fs will disallow as a file/dir name) | 16:41 |
| godbyk | .. and as long as it won't hit any limitations of the fs (max files per dir, etc.). | 16:41 |
| Red_HamsterX | A bigger concern is probably making sure the server's owner can freely hack data, if some sort of problem comes up. | 16:42 |
| godbyk | right. | 16:42 |
| Red_HamsterX | Which is one of the main reasons why I hate surrogate keys. | 16:43 |
| godbyk | that's true, too | 16:43 |
| godbyk | .(especially since I'm the current server 'owner'.) ;-) | 16:43 |
| Red_HamsterX | (I'll try to expose as much maintenance logic as I can through the project-admin interface) | 16:43 |
| Red_HamsterX | (This is just for super-unlikely situations like merging two servers) | 16:44 |
| Red_HamsterX | (If it can be handled through FS-level syncing, then, well, yay) | 16:44 |
| xuacu | Hi! | 19:56 |
| xuacu | is there any TeXpert on board? | 19:56 |
| godbyk | xuacu: Sure. What's up? | 19:57 |
| daker | hi xuacu | 19:57 |
| xuacu | I'm tryng to trace an error on asturian build | 19:57 |
| godbyk | Can you paste the .log file to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and send me the link? | 19:57 |
| godbyk | I'll take a look at it for you. | 19:57 |
| xuacu | I got this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/434507/ | 19:57 |
| xuacu | sure ;) | 19:58 |
| godbyk | Hmm.. strange. I'm not sure why po4a care about that. | 19:59 |
| godbyk | Let me try to compile it here real quick. | 19:59 |
| xuacu | ok, thx | 19:59 |
| godbyk | It seems to be working okay here. Try 'make ubuntu-manual-ast.pdf' and see what happens. (You may want to run 'make clean' first to clear any old files.) | 20:00 |
| xuacu | let me see | 20:00 |
| xuacu | ... the same thing happens | 20:01 |
| xuacu | let me try one thing | 20:02 |
| godbyk | k | 20:03 |
| xuacu | I've the same TeX live I've installed some months ago | 20:03 |
| godbyk | It's not running tex yet. | 20:03 |
| xuacu | I'll try to uninstall and get the ppa version | 20:03 |
| godbyk | po4a is dying. | 20:03 |
| godbyk | It's not a tex problem. | 20:04 |
| xuacu | mmm... | 20:04 |
| godbyk | Let me google around for a moment. | 20:04 |
| xuacu | ok | 20:04 |
| godbyk | xuacu: I updated the ubuntu-manual.cls file and pushed it. try 'bzr pull' and then 'make mylang' again. | 20:08 |
| godbyk | I have no idea if it'll help or not. | 20:08 |
| xuacu | ok | 20:09 |
| godbyk | I think the problem may be that the colophon isn't in the translation template. | 20:09 |
| godbyk | In fact, you shouldn't see that stuff anyway if you're using the lucid-e1 branch. | 20:09 |
| godbyk | Run 'bzr info' and paste the results here. | 20:10 |
| xuacu | wow! lucid-e2! | 20:11 |
| godbyk | aha. | 20:11 |
| godbyk | yeah, that'd be the problem. | 20:11 |
| xuacu | I've no idea why it's on e2... | 20:11 |
| xuacu | actually, I've no idea about bzr :) | 20:12 |
| godbyk | :) | 20:12 |
| xuacu | I'll try to fix that, thx | 20:12 |
| godbyk | well, you can run 'bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual/lucid-e1' to pull the e1 branch. | 20:13 |
| xuacu | godbyk: done | 20:28 |
| xuacu | I got an error when running make mylang | 20:29 |
| godbyk-android | Now you can try running make mylang again from that branch. | 20:29 |
| xuacu | but running just make before that fixes the issue | 20:29 |
| godbyk-android | Okay. Can you paste the error message again? | 20:30 |
| godbyk-android | Weird | 20:30 |
| xuacu | here you are http://paste.ubuntu.com/434526/ | 20:30 |
| * Red_HamsterX ughs at incomplete documentation. | 20:33 | |
| Red_HamsterX | http://www.sqlalchemy.org/docs/05/reference/orm/query.html#sqlalchemy.orm.query.Query.with_lockmode | 20:33 |
| Red_HamsterX | It'd be nice to know what values are acceptable. :( | 20:34 |
| c7p | xuacu: I had the same problem and I overcomed it running "make clean" | 20:34 |
| xuacu | c7p: yes, same for me | 20:35 |
| xuacu | it looks as if manual needs one make | 20:35 |
| xuacu | and then all goes fine | 20:35 |
| godbyk | I'm not entirely sure what the problem is. I've pushed a couple lines of code that may fix it though. | 20:41 |
| godbyk | (run 'make clean' and 'rm revision.tex', then try 'make mylang' again -- after bzr pull, of course.) | 20:42 |
| xuacu | let me see | 20:43 |
| xuacu | godbyk: ok, now it builds | 20:47 |
| godbyk | okay. | 20:47 |
| godbyk | let me know if you see that error in the future. | 20:47 |
| xuacu | except for errors that I'm hunting, that is :) | 20:48 |
| xuacu | thx | 20:48 |
| godbyk | it comes about because po4a is rather dumb. :-( | 20:48 |
| xuacu | I need to learn really a lot | 20:48 |
| daker | i have question | 21:11 |
| daker | who uses wordpress ? | 21:12 |
| dutchie | i used to, then gave up on it and wrote my own blogging platform | 21:13 |
| dutchie | daker: why do you ask? | 21:14 |
| daker | i will make a nice wordpress theme | 21:18 |
| godbyk | I use wordpress still. | 21:38 |
| daker | oki | 21:38 |
| godbyk | I tend to change the theme on my blog every six months or so. | 21:41 |
| godbyk | I've never found one that I've liked long-term. | 21:41 |
| dutchie | if anyone fancies doing a design for http://www.joshh.co.uk/, i would be grateful :) | 21:41 |
| dutchie | seeing as it's quite ugly at the moment | 21:41 |
| godbyk | Here's my current theme: http://kevin.godby.org/ | 21:42 |
| godbyk | I rather like the minimalist, typography-oriented themes. | 21:42 |
| godbyk | There aren't many of them though. | 21:42 |
| daker | i'll try to make a nice one | 21:44 |
| godbyk | Is daker bored today? :) | 21:46 |
| daker | yes | 21:46 |
| daker | i am waiting for replies | 21:46 |
| daker | for my training | 21:46 |
| godbyk | ah | 21:47 |
| daker | and you ? | 21:48 |
| godbyk | I'm bouncing around between a few different projects at the moment. | 21:48 |
| godbyk | Can't seem to focus on any one of them today. :-( | 21:48 |
| daker | question | 21:54 |
| daker | not necessary :) | 21:55 |
| godbyk | ok | 21:55 |
| Red_HamsterX | Has anyone worked with OpenID before? | 22:38 |
| daker | no | 22:38 |
| xuacu | godbyk: are you available? | 22:46 |
| godbyk | xuacu: sure | 22:46 |
| xuacu | hi. Something is going really wrong here | 22:47 |
| xuacu | when building asturian manual, the title page appears in english | 22:48 |
| godbyk | xuacu: that's because an asturian title page probably hasn't been created yet. | 22:48 |
| xuacu | and the main text is... | 22:48 |
| xuacu | like Klingon to me. | 22:48 |
| xuacu | godbyk: it's created | 22:49 |
| godbyk | hmm.. | 22:49 |
| Red_HamsterX | I wonder what the language code for Klingon would be... | 22:49 |
| xuacu | titles and margin notes are ok | 22:49 |
| godbyk | paste your .log file and I'll take al ook. | 22:49 |
| xuacu | I tried to build galician and english | 22:50 |
| xuacu | with the same results | 22:50 |
| xuacu | godbyk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/434581/ | 22:51 |
| godbyk | Class ubuntu-manual Warning: No cover page for asturian found. | 22:52 |
| godbyk | (ubuntu-manual) Defaulting to English A4 cover page.. | 22:52 |
| xuacu | however, it's there... | 22:52 |
| godbyk | xuacu: ah, I see what the problem may be. | 22:53 |
| godbyk | I've commented out the generate_titlepage function call in the Makefile. | 22:53 |
| godbyk | (because I got tired of it regenerating the title pages all the time on my PC.) | 22:53 |
| xuacu | np, usually I generate it | 22:53 |
| godbyk | does the file titlepage/titlepage-ast.pdf exist? | 22:53 |
| xuacu | yes, it's already in Launchpad branch | 22:54 |
| godbyk | not the svg, the pdf. | 22:54 |
| xuacu | oh... | 22:55 |
| xuacu | no, it's not | 22:55 |
| xuacu | but I can regenerate it | 22:55 |
| godbyk | you can run: inkscape --export-text-to-path --export-pdf=titlepage/titlepage-ast.pdf titlepage/titlepage-ast.svg | 22:55 |
| godbyk | that'll generate it | 22:55 |
| xuacu | godbyk: the titlepage is now there... | 23:03 |
| godbyk | 'kay. | 23:03 |
| godbyk | what was the other problem you were having? | 23:03 |
| xuacu | main text is some sort of "asdf..." | 23:04 |
| xuacu | formatted text is ok | 23:04 |
| godbyk | can you show me the pdf? | 23:04 |
| xuacu | let me find one of my upload sites | 23:05 |
| xuacu | godbyk: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AI05RG92 | 23:15 |
| godbyk | that's quite odd. I don't get that on mine. | 23:18 |
| godbyk | do you have linux libertine installed? | 23:18 |
| xuacu | yes, I did pkgs/install-pkgs.sh and all is fine :( | 23:19 |
| godbyk | Hmm.. | 23:19 |
| xuacu | just in case... | 23:20 |
| xuacu | I'll try uninstall and then install again | 23:20 |
| godbyk | 'kay. | 23:21 |
| xuacu | godbyk: it didn't work... | 23:28 |
| godbyk | I'm not sure what the problem is then. | 23:35 |
| godbyk | Sorry. | 23:35 |
| godbyk | My version looks like the one here: http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/ | 23:35 |
| xuacu | yes, that's how it looked for me too | 23:39 |
| xuacu | ok, I'll check system logs in case there's an answer | 23:39 |
| xuacu | night everyone and thx o/ | 23:40 |
| godbyk | see ya, xuacu | 23:40 |
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