[00:50] Less productive than I'd hoped, but I think I've got the full relationship model for the server's database worked out. (And about 40% implemented in code) [00:55] guys where can i find the new ubuntu font? [00:55] daker: It hasn't been released yet. [00:56] oki [01:20] godbyk, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual-website/ubuntu-manual-website/uslc [01:23] daker: cool! [01:23] :) [01:24] You're insanely good at taking pictures and turning them into web pages. :) [01:25] not pictures, i sent a email to humphreybc then he sent me the psd [01:25] ah, cool. [01:25] still. :) [01:25] thanks [03:16] hi, I've just uploaded several screenshots for zh_CN language, who will review and approve it? [03:17] see with ubuntujenkins [03:17] daker: thanks [03:18] godbyk: and hi, is there any progress about the pdfs? === Daker is now known as daker [15:09] ubuntujenkins, I think I've got a solution to the problem of training users to expand windows without maximizing them. [15:10] As a plus, it'll allow us to make corners appear rounded. [15:10] A simple script-mapping feature on the server that, at approval-time, allows the operator to choose which filters to apply to the image with a few checkboxes. [15:11] Each one will take an image and apply a transformation routine to it, like how we patched the button order. [15:13] If we add a 1px border tyo images and overlay rounded edges with transparency, we should be able to make maximized windows look consistent enough. [15:24] check this out: http://poststuff5.entensity.net/051410/flash.php?media=dog.flv [15:42] Red_HamsterX, i got something for you [15:43] Is it candy? [15:43] wait a minute [15:44] really early christmas present? [15:45] no :D [15:46] awwwwwww [15:46] Even if it were, I wouldn't share. =P [15:50] Red_HamsterX: thats a great idea. [15:51] I'll try to get a simple multi-window demo done for you during lunch breaks this week. [15:52] Red_HamsterX: is not a good idea, didnt you know that you HAVE to give me a share in it? :) [15:52] It shouldn't be hard to do; I'll just need to find a bit of time. [15:52] No... No, I did not. [15:52] Red_HamsterX: thanks no rush I have uni work to do at the moment. I finish in a month so down to quickshot then [16:01] Red_HamsterX, Bazaar want work for me [16:01] give me your email [16:02] he starts working :) [16:02] red.hamsterx@gmail.com, neil.tallim@gmail.com, flan@uguu.ca (Take your pick) [16:23] back [16:23] Red_HamsterX, now pull the server branch [16:28] Done. [16:28] I'll integrate those changes as soon as they become relevant. [16:28] (I'm doing a from-scartch redesign right now) [16:29] oki [16:29] (But I'll consult your code whenever I need to do something visual) [16:29] sure [16:30] * Red_HamsterX is trying to decide between purely natural keys and surrogates with natural indexes... [16:31] The longest natural key would be three columns, with a clear parent-child relationship between them. [16:31] So it's more of a data-usage concern than a speed concern. [16:37] can you explain what you going to do ? [16:37] I'm working on the multiple-projects-on-a-single-server model. [16:38] My main concern is with logging events. [16:38] Though it's probably not worth the effort I'm putting into it. [16:38] The overhead's, like, 20 bytes per row. [16:39] ...And I could probably just move that cost into the filesystem. [16:40] If it's something that can be easily modified/fixed later, then you can put it off. If it'll be a big hassle to change it later, better to fix it now. At least that's the policy I usually take. :) [16:40] Same. [16:40] I just really hate surrogate keys. [16:40] "Move it into the filesystem".. using naming scheme? Or more reads/writes to the fs? [16:40] Use a naming scheme. [16:40] Possibly a directory hierarchy. [16:41] ah, gotcha. [16:41] as long as they're all safe names. [16:41] (nothing too funky that the fs will disallow as a file/dir name) [16:41] .. and as long as it won't hit any limitations of the fs (max files per dir, etc.). [16:42] A bigger concern is probably making sure the server's owner can freely hack data, if some sort of problem comes up. [16:42] right. [16:43] Which is one of the main reasons why I hate surrogate keys. [16:43] that's true, too [16:43] .(especially since I'm the current server 'owner'.) ;-) [16:43] (I'll try to expose as much maintenance logic as I can through the project-admin interface) [16:44] (This is just for super-unlikely situations like merging two servers) [16:44] (If it can be handled through FS-level syncing, then, well, yay) [19:56] Hi! [19:56] is there any TeXpert on board? [19:57] xuacu: Sure. What's up? [19:57] hi xuacu [19:57] I'm tryng to trace an error on asturian build [19:57] Can you paste the .log file to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and send me the link? [19:57] I'll take a look at it for you. [19:57] I got this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/434507/ [19:58] sure ;) [19:59] Hmm.. strange. I'm not sure why po4a care about that. [19:59] Let me try to compile it here real quick. [19:59] ok, thx [20:00] It seems to be working okay here. Try 'make ubuntu-manual-ast.pdf' and see what happens. (You may want to run 'make clean' first to clear any old files.) [20:00] let me see [20:01] ... the same thing happens [20:02] let me try one thing [20:03] k [20:03] I've the same TeX live I've installed some months ago [20:03] It's not running tex yet. [20:03] I'll try to uninstall and get the ppa version [20:03] po4a is dying. [20:04] It's not a tex problem. [20:04] mmm... [20:04] Let me google around for a moment. [20:04] ok [20:08] xuacu: I updated the ubuntu-manual.cls file and pushed it. try 'bzr pull' and then 'make mylang' again. [20:08] I have no idea if it'll help or not. [20:09] ok [20:09] I think the problem may be that the colophon isn't in the translation template. [20:09] In fact, you shouldn't see that stuff anyway if you're using the lucid-e1 branch. [20:10] Run 'bzr info' and paste the results here. [20:11] wow! lucid-e2! [20:11] aha. [20:11] yeah, that'd be the problem. [20:11] I've no idea why it's on e2... [20:12] actually, I've no idea about bzr :) [20:12] :) [20:12] I'll try to fix that, thx [20:13] well, you can run 'bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual/lucid-e1' to pull the e1 branch. [20:28] godbyk: done [20:29] I got an error when running make mylang [20:29] Now you can try running make mylang again from that branch. [20:29] but running just make before that fixes the issue [20:30] Okay. Can you paste the error message again? [20:30] Weird [20:30] here you are http://paste.ubuntu.com/434526/ [20:33] * Red_HamsterX ughs at incomplete documentation. [20:33] http://www.sqlalchemy.org/docs/05/reference/orm/query.html#sqlalchemy.orm.query.Query.with_lockmode [20:34] It'd be nice to know what values are acceptable. :( [20:34] xuacu: I had the same problem and I overcomed it running "make clean" [20:35] c7p: yes, same for me [20:35] it looks as if manual needs one make [20:35] and then all goes fine [20:41] I'm not entirely sure what the problem is. I've pushed a couple lines of code that may fix it though. [20:42] (run 'make clean' and 'rm revision.tex', then try 'make mylang' again -- after bzr pull, of course.) [20:43] let me see [20:47] godbyk: ok, now it builds [20:47] okay. [20:47] let me know if you see that error in the future. [20:48] except for errors that I'm hunting, that is :) [20:48] thx [20:48] it comes about because po4a is rather dumb. :-( [20:48] I need to learn really a lot [21:11] i have question [21:12] who uses wordpress ? [21:13] i used to, then gave up on it and wrote my own blogging platform [21:14] daker: why do you ask? [21:18] i will make a nice wordpress theme [21:38] I use wordpress still. [21:38] oki [21:41] I tend to change the theme on my blog every six months or so. [21:41] I've never found one that I've liked long-term. [21:41] if anyone fancies doing a design for http://www.joshh.co.uk/, i would be grateful :) [21:41] seeing as it's quite ugly at the moment [21:42] Here's my current theme: http://kevin.godby.org/ [21:42] I rather like the minimalist, typography-oriented themes. [21:42] There aren't many of them though. [21:44] i'll try to make a nice one [21:46] Is daker bored today? :) [21:46] yes [21:46] i am waiting for replies [21:46] for my training [21:47] ah [21:48] and you ? [21:48] I'm bouncing around between a few different projects at the moment. [21:48] Can't seem to focus on any one of them today. :-( [21:54] question [21:55] not necessary :) [21:55] ok [22:38] Has anyone worked with OpenID before? [22:38] no [22:46] godbyk: are you available? [22:46] xuacu: sure [22:47] hi. Something is going really wrong here [22:48] when building asturian manual, the title page appears in english [22:48] xuacu: that's because an asturian title page probably hasn't been created yet. [22:48] and the main text is... [22:48] like Klingon to me. [22:49] godbyk: it's created [22:49] hmm.. [22:49] I wonder what the language code for Klingon would be... [22:49] titles and margin notes are ok [22:49] paste your .log file and I'll take al ook. [22:50] I tried to build galician and english [22:50] with the same results [22:51] godbyk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/434581/ [22:52] Class ubuntu-manual Warning: No cover page for asturian found. [22:52] (ubuntu-manual) Defaulting to English A4 cover page.. [22:52] however, it's there... [22:53] xuacu: ah, I see what the problem may be. [22:53] I've commented out the generate_titlepage function call in the Makefile. [22:53] (because I got tired of it regenerating the title pages all the time on my PC.) [22:53] np, usually I generate it [22:53] does the file titlepage/titlepage-ast.pdf exist? [22:54] yes, it's already in Launchpad branch [22:54] not the svg, the pdf. [22:55] oh... [22:55] no, it's not [22:55] but I can regenerate it [22:55] you can run: inkscape --export-text-to-path --export-pdf=titlepage/titlepage-ast.pdf titlepage/titlepage-ast.svg [22:55] that'll generate it [23:03] godbyk: the titlepage is now there... [23:03] 'kay. [23:03] what was the other problem you were having? [23:04] main text is some sort of "asdf..." [23:04] formatted text is ok [23:04] can you show me the pdf? [23:05] let me find one of my upload sites [23:15] godbyk: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AI05RG92 [23:18] that's quite odd. I don't get that on mine. [23:18] do you have linux libertine installed? [23:19] yes, I did pkgs/install-pkgs.sh and all is fine :( [23:19] Hmm.. [23:20] just in case... [23:20] I'll try uninstall and then install again [23:21] 'kay. [23:28] godbyk: it didn't work... [23:35] I'm not sure what the problem is then. [23:35] Sorry. [23:35] My version looks like the one here: http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/ [23:39] yes, that's how it looked for me too [23:39] ok, I'll check system logs in case there's an answer [23:40] night everyone and thx o/ [23:40] see ya, xuacu