| mac9416 | Hello. When I open a deb in an archive manager, then data.tar.gz, I see that the top directory is called "." How is that directory created? I thought "." meant "current directory." | 00:34 |
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| niall_ | quit | 00:40 |
| imbrandon | it does, debs are created with dpkg-buildpackage | 00:40 |
| mac9416 | imbrandon, what is dpkg-deb --build for? | 00:42 |
| imbrandon | mac9416: there are alot of diffrent alias for the same thing, the debian pacakge guide explains it | 00:44 |
| mac9416 | k | 00:44 |
| mac9416 | Will that guide explain the "." directories? | 00:44 |
| imbrandon | but building the archive directly isnt really feasable | 00:44 |
| mac9416 | I see. | 00:44 |
| imbrandon | the . is the current directory | 00:44 |
| imbrandon | as you said | 00:45 |
| mac9416 | But how does dpkg make such a directory? | 00:45 |
| mac9416 | Rather, why is it visible in an archive manager? | 00:45 |
| imbrandon | it dosent make it, thats how archive manager is representing it | 00:45 |
| mac9416 | OK | 00:45 |
| mac9416 | imbrandon, u say it wouldn't be feasiable to make a deb by hand. What if it was only a metapackage? No data, only a control file. | 00:55 |
| mac9416 | imbrandon, I'm looking at making a cross-platform metapackage creator, so I kinda want to make a simple deb with Python. | 00:56 |
| mac9416 | I doubt dpkg-buildpackage is cross-platform. | 00:56 |
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| lfaraone | mac9416: it will probably run in any unix enviornment. | 01:17 |
| mac9416 | lfaraone, what about Windows? | 01:24 |
| mac9416 | Is the information here still accurate? http://madabar.com/techblog/2007/07/15/manually-creating-a-deb-package-for-maemo/ | 02:16 |
| mac9416 | Because I can read BASH. And if his methos still works, I can do it in Python. | 02:17 |
| mac9416 | *method | 02:17 |
| imbrandon | mac9416: likely but you'll get a morer definitive response from the dpkg maintainers in debian ( on oftc ) | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | and the dpkg documentation | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | as that is what you are re-implmenting | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | dear lazyweb: i'm bored ... that is all. | 03:17 |
| mirsal | lfaraone, ping | 04:58 |
| mirsal | (Hello, there ^^) | 04:59 |
| kobrien | any tips on where to look for help with packaging a java app? | 06:41 |
| kobrien | docs seem scarce. My app uses ant as buildsystem... | 06:41 |
| imbrandon | kobrien: http://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage | 06:46 |
| imbrandon | kobrien: sorry wrong link | 06:47 |
| kobrien | kk | 06:47 |
| imbrandon | kobrien: anyhow the ant build system should be supported just look at any of the programs that currently use it | 06:47 |
| kobrien | good thinking | 06:48 |
| kobrien | imbrandon: :) I have my answers. I downloaded a variant of lucene which uses ant to build. thanks | 06:50 |
| imbrandon | kobrien: :) | 06:51 |
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| defcon | morning | 10:37 |
| ari-tczew | hello | 11:22 |
| pochu | quadrispro: hi, isn't simple-scan 2.31.x an unstable series? | 11:23 |
| ari-tczew | pochu: simple-scan (2.31.1-1) is in unstable | 11:25 |
| geser | ari-tczew: pochu asks about the upstream versioning. Some upstreams (e.g. Gnome) use even numbers (e.g. 2.30.x) for the stable releases and odd numbers (2.31.x) for development releases | 11:28 |
| ari-tczew | geser: I know about gnome's versioning | 11:29 |
| pochu | ari-tczew: I know it's in unstable, hence my question | 11:30 |
| pochu | if 2.31.1 is an unstable release, having it in unstable is bad (tm) | 11:30 |
| ari-tczew | yhy | 11:30 |
| quadrispro | pochu, maybe but it works fine, i didn't find any bug for now | 11:35 |
| * quadrispro on phone | 11:35 | |
| pochu | quadrispro: well I don't think that's a good enough reason to ship unstable software in a stable release, but YMMV | 11:37 |
| pochu | but as long as you take care of bugs et al (and you do), I guess it's alright | 11:38 |
| ari-tczew | does apt-cache policy say true of packages | 11:43 |
| ari-tczew | component? main/universe etc | 11:44 |
| geser | yes, for packages from the main archive (PPAs have only a main component) | 11:45 |
| ari-tczew | geser: because I have a discrepancy. merge sites and apt-cache policy says that package is in universe, but LP show main component... | 11:47 |
| geser | which one? | 11:47 |
| ari-tczew | geser: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/trove | 11:48 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: update to lucid! | 11:49 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/trove/2.0.4-1ubuntu2 VS https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/trove/2.1.0-1ubuntu1 | 11:49 |
| geser | ari-tczew: ignore the "Component:*" field in the Package section but look instead at the second column in the table below it | 11:49 |
| ari-tczew | geser, bdrung: heh, some time ago someone told me that this is LP bug | 11:50 |
| bdrung | :) according to LP this package is moved to main in lucid | 11:51 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: is your mailbox full of requests? :P | 11:52 |
| bdrung | 11 sync requests. you guys are mean to me ;) | 11:53 |
| geser | bdrung: 2.1.0-1ubuntu1 got demoted again to universe (see https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/trove/+publishinghistory) | 11:53 |
| bdrung | aha | 11:53 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: you could be more verbose. state the changes that can be dropped instead of using "All changes have been incorporated in the Debian package." | 12:01 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: I have this sentence saved in my statistic file. :P what could I write instead above^^? | 12:02 |
| c_korn | where can I find an address to inform google about the problem we (Debian and Ubuntu) have with their design change on code.google.com rendering existing debian/watch files useless and the fact that new watch files would be somehow ugly: http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-apps/packages/sinntp/trunk/debian/watch?revision=5212 | 12:03 |
| bdrung | for example: Debian has merged the Ubuntu changes (see second entry of changelog) | 12:03 |
| bdrung | c_korn: good questions. next question? ;) | 12:04 |
| kklimonda | c_korn: I don't think that it's something they would care about | 12:04 |
| bdrung | c_korn: this issue is currently discussed on the debian-devel mailing list. | 12:04 |
| c_korn | I know. http://groups.google.de/group/linux.debian.devel/browse_thread/thread/3f9bbca6687dcd27 | 12:05 |
| kklimonda | I like the idea of extending uscan to deal with things like that in a nice and clean fashion | 12:05 |
| c_korn | yes, but these redirectors are only a workaround in my eyes. and in case of code.google.com the redirector would have to fetch a page. (according to this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=581622#15 ) | 12:07 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 581622 in qa.debian.org "[qa.debian.org] Please provide a code.google.com redirector" [Wishlist,Open] | 12:07 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: bug #581228 what do you want to say with "In Ubuntu package is not interesting"? | 12:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 581228 in obexd "Sync obexd 0.23-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/581228 | 12:28 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: what to do with debian/patches/0001-Revert-Fix-the-session-is-shutdown-when-the-agent-ex.patch ? | 12:28 |
| nigelb | bdrung: the fix for the pbuilder bug shuold be synced by now right? | 12:30 |
| nigelb | so its only a matter of getting the sru in I suppose | 12:30 |
| bdrung | nigelb: which bug? | 12:30 |
| nigelb | bdrung: you had commented on an sru bug dont remember the nuber right now | 12:31 |
| bdrung | nigelb: i comment on too many bugs | 12:31 |
| nigelb | bdrung: busy core-dev ;) | 12:31 |
| bdrung | nigelb: ari-tczew and Bhavani Shankar keep me busy. | 12:32 |
| nigelb | hehe | 12:33 |
| nigelb | patch review has reduced my motu work | 12:33 |
| bdrung | nigelb: can you dig out the bug number? | 12:42 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: in obexd, the diff /debian/ between ubuntu and debian is changelog, standards version and description package. so I guess that these differents are not very importand | 12:43 |
| nigelb | bdrung: yep, gimme a minute | 12:43 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: and 0001-Revert-Fix-the-session-is-shutdown-when-the-agent-ex.patch? | 12:44 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: what's the package or bug number? | 12:44 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: the same (obexd) | 12:44 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: fixed upstream | 12:44 |
| ari-tczew | I should write that patch has been fixed upstream | 12:45 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: yes. that's one thing that should be in the bug explanation | 12:46 |
| ari-tczew | sorry | 12:47 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: and where did you see that? | 12:51 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: what see? | 12:52 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: that the patch has been fixed upstream? | 12:52 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: tested - I've installed debian package, sent file to my phone and it works, and upstream changelog: Fix unneeded reset of session after a CONNECT. | 12:56 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: ok. acked this sync request | 12:58 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: is merging bzr harder than from debdiffs? (from sponsor point of view) | 13:35 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: a little bit. i need to get used to and use the advantages of the VCS. | 13:36 |
| ari-tczew | yhy | 13:36 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: yhy? | 13:39 |
| ari-tczew | just like aha | 13:39 |
| ari-tczew | aha, heh, yhy... | 13:40 |
| ari-tczew | ok | 13:40 |
| bdrung | aha | 13:40 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: how do you pronounce this word without vowels? | 13:41 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: without vowels? hmmm "y" is not vowel? | 13:43 |
| ari-tczew | aa | 13:43 |
| ari-tczew | I just know! not in english | 13:43 |
| ari-tczew | in polish "y" is vowel | 13:44 |
| ari-tczew | ok so I'll not use in future word "yhy" :-) | 13:44 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: interesting: wikipedia says that y can be a vocal in some cases in German. | 13:46 |
| bdrung | the English wikipedia says: "representing a vowel in most languages that use it" | 13:46 |
| ari-tczew | :-) | 13:47 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: does yhy sound like ihi? | 13:47 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: no, doesn't sound like ihi :) | 13:48 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: but... maybe. heh, not easy to compare | 13:50 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: I think that you're bored. do you want get more syncs to sponsor? :-) | 13:50 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: if you can catch up with me :P | 13:54 |
| mok0 | Any hints on how to deal intelligently with an svn-only upstream? | 13:57 |
| mok0 | Creating a tarball seems somewhat old-school | 13:58 |
| jcfp | mok0: how else? iirc, one cannot assume internet access is available during build. | 14:11 |
| mok0 | jcfp: not during build, but during source package creation | 14:22 |
| jcfp | get-orig-source in debian/rules? | 14:23 |
| mok0 | jcfp: yeah, I just wondered if something smarter was available | 14:23 |
| astraljava | mok0: bzr-svn a branch, then use bzr-builder to create the source package? Would that work? | 14:24 |
| mok0 | astraljava: hmm, going via bzr eh? Good idea I'll give it a try | 14:25 |
| astraljava | mok0: Isn't that where the whole ubuntu dev is going anyway? :) | 14:26 |
| mok0 | astraljava: indeed :-) | 14:26 |
| mok0 | astraljava: ... and it could be done via a LP project of course, it just seems a bit overkill for what I am looking at | 14:27 |
| mok0 | ... which is a one-file python module :-) | 14:27 |
| astraljava | mok0: Granted, quite a lot of work for that. | 14:27 |
| jcfp | convincing upstream to create releases is the other obvious way out. | 14:28 |
| mok0 | jcfp: not realistic | 14:28 |
| mok0 | jcfp: I am looking at just one directory of the whole svn.openstreetmap.org repo | 14:29 |
| jcfp | ayay | 14:29 |
| bdrung | mok0: use "svn export" and then tar the export | 14:31 |
| mok0 | bdrung: yes, I know that route, I was just wondering if anything smarter was possible | 14:32 |
| bdrung | mok0: not that i am aware of | 14:32 |
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| fabrice_sp | bdrung, I've update the ack-sync script from your branch, and the script now requires a syncpackage script that is not the one in ubuntu-dev-tools package. where can I find it | 17:11 |
| bdrung | fabrice_sp: bzr branch lp:ubuntu-dev-tools - it will be in the next upload | 17:51 |
| fabrice_sp | ok. Thnaks! | 17:52 |
| bdrung | debfx: regarding bug #581366 - i have no email address for sponsoring your sync request | 17:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 581366 in kbuild "Sync kbuild 1:0.1.98svn2318-6 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/581366 | 17:55 |
| debfx | bdrung: it's in the last line of the bug description (i.e. changelog entry of 1:0.1.98svn2318-5) | 17:59 |
| bdrung | ah, ok | 18:01 |
| bdrung | debfx: it doesn't build | 18:01 |
| bdrung | due to unmet dependencies | 18:01 |
| debfx | bdrung: it requires the new gettext package which you've sponsored a few hours ago | 18:03 |
| bdrung | ah, ok | 18:03 |
| ari-tczew | I'm working with submittodebian right now, script want got "Please briefly describe your problem", do I need to write something? | 18:33 |
| kklimonda | ari-tczew: well, I always add a brief description of a patch and rationale (if it's not obvious bugfix) | 18:35 |
| ari-tczew | of course remove changes related to ubuntu maintainer field? | 18:37 |
| kklimonda | yes, they are of not use for debian anyway :) | 18:38 |
| ari-tczew | could be done submittodebian from bzr branch? not debdiff? | 18:39 |
| fabrice_sp | ari-tczew, AFAIK, you run it from a source directory | 18:42 |
| DeeJay1 | hi, I'm having a problem with dh_repository mainly dh_girepository -pgir1.0-emerillon-0.1 \n dh_girepository: Could not find gir file for Emerillon-0.1.typelib is there a way to debug it somehow? | 18:43 |
| ari-tczew | I don't know what I have to with this file in diff generated by submittodebian: diff -Nru junitperf-1.9.1/debian/changelog junitperf-1.9.1/debian/changelog | 18:43 |
| fabrice_sp | just delete the lines | 18:43 |
| fabrice_sp | (I always delete them) | 18:43 |
| ari-tczew | ok | 18:43 |
| pabelanger_ | Where can I find information about the Debian import for Maverick? How it is done, and what packages are selected? | 18:45 |
| ScottK | fabrice_sp: You sponsored the last blends merge. I was wondering if you could work with the last merger (or do it yourself if they are not around) and get it updated soon. It's blocking some other merges. | 18:45 |
| ScottK | pabelanger_: It's all of them except a small list of blacklisted packages. AFAIK, new packages didn't get brought in yet, but will soon. | 18:45 |
| fabrice_sp | ScottK, sure. I'll check if the last merger is still active/willing to merge it | 18:45 |
| ScottK | fabrice_sp: Thanks. | 18:46 |
| pabelanger_ | ScottK: Thanks, is that an automated process or manual? | 18:46 |
| ScottK | There is a script that has to be manually triggered by an archive admin | 18:46 |
| ScottK | So once started it's automatic. | 18:46 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: when sponsors will start use your sync script? | 18:47 |
| pabelanger_ | ScottK: Roger. Where is the best place to follow that process? | 18:47 |
| ScottK | I don't know that there is a good one. | 18:47 |
| ScottK | It's safe to assume that any package in Debian that's not in Maverick yet will show up. | 18:48 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: which one do you refer to? ack-sync or syncpackage? | 18:49 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: hmmm syncpackage propably | 18:50 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: dunno. i will write a mail to ubuntu-devel to start a discussion about the script and the sync procedure | 18:51 |
| ari-tczew | ok | 18:52 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: is your script ajusted to multiple closing bugs? | 19:14 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: multiple closing bugs? | 19:15 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: now you give a bug number to script, but what about when sync can fix/close e.g. 3 bugs? does your script can do it? | 19:16 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: you can run "syncpackage -b 12345 -b 23456 -b 345678 [...]" | 19:17 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: this is it what I'm looking for. thanks for information | 19:18 |
| bdrung | yw | 19:18 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: please check the changes file before uploading | 19:18 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: yyyy before uploading? | 19:19 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: syncpackage generates a changes file that can be uploaded | 19:20 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: but I'm not a sponsor | 19:20 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: you don't need to act as sponsor | 19:21 |
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| bdrung | ari-tczew: i sent the mail "The syncing process and syncpackage (or: How to speedup the syncing process)" to ubuntu-devel | 19:50 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: nice | 19:51 |
| bdrung | share your thoughts | 19:51 |
| DeeJay1 | could someone take a look at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~deejay1/emerillon/lucid? I have trouble getting dh_girepository to work :/ | 20:16 |
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| psusi | wtf? I explicitly told lp to use lucid... I did bzr push lp:~psusi/ubuntu/lucid/parted/dmraid-fix and it comes back and says it created a stacked branch using maverick | 23:21 |
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