[00:25] <psidrum> test me
[01:22] <Flannel> IdleOne: That would probably have been better served as a talking-to instead of a removal.  Some people call ops far too prematurely.
[01:22] <Flannel> Although in this case, it does appear to be somewhat trollish
[01:23] <IdleOne> Flannel: agreed that a talking to would of been better but I banned because he posted the full link and not the abreviation
[01:24] <IdleOne> so it is posting links to jfgi and cursing
[01:24] <Flannel> Yeah, but you should rarely ban 'out of the blue'
[01:26] <Flannel> IdleOne: are you speaking to him in a query about it?
[01:27] <Flannel> Meh.  Now you've got me removing people that I should've just let drop ;)
[01:31] <IdleOne> Flannel: sorry not yet. Got dad asking me to teach him facebook :/
[01:31] <Flannel> Tell him it's a site that steals his privacy and sells it to companies and he should stay away.  Problem solved!
[01:35] <IdleOne> I won't even ask if that is true. it MUST be
[01:35] <IdleOne> I messaged and asked to join here if he would like to discuss the ban
[01:36] <IdleOne> Flannel: oh you mean Facebook
[01:36] <IdleOne> lol yeah I told him that already
[01:36] <Flannel> yeah, I meant facebook
[01:37] <IdleOne> he just uses it to play some game on there and has no personal info like real name or anything
[01:38] <Flannel> farmville or mafia wars?
[01:38] <IdleOne> world at war
[01:38] <IdleOne> but yeah same thing
 A better idea would be to install gentoo
[01:46] <bazhang> now in #k
[01:47] <IdleOne> yeah well he is now upset so he is going to troll everywhere
[01:47] <IdleOne> he did not respond to my PM either
[01:47] <bazhang> no, he did before the ban as well
[01:48] <IdleOne> why did ubottu ask me to comment on removal and also on ban?
[01:53] <Flannel> IdleOne: because you banned, and you also removed.
[01:53] <IdleOne> hmm I don't recall the bot asking for separate comments on same user but okie dokie
[01:53] <Flannel> IdleOne: (comment on the ban, not the kick/removal)
[01:53] <IdleOne> Flannel: well I did both now so no biggie
[01:55] <IdleOne> !yahoo
[01:56] <IdleOne> is this still valid?
[01:56] <IdleOne> ^^^
[10:06] <jussi> !women
[10:07] <jussi> she's dead jim...
[10:07] <gord> slooooow
[10:08] <jussi> yeah
[10:09] <jussi> gord: might be nice if you could join #ubuntu-bots-devel
[10:44] <elky> i fix0rd it
[11:25] <topyli> @mark oCean #ubuntu-offtopic chloroform quit message still intact
[14:13] <dabaR> hello.
[14:14] <dabaR> I recently started going to the drupal channels, and I noticed some interesting thing they do there, which might be a thought for the way the Ubuntu channel works.
[14:15] <dabaR> They basically move to the -support channel when someone takes on resolving the issue of a specific person
[14:15] <dabaR> So, in #ubuntu, basically support requests, and short responses. If it is a longer fix, you move to #ubuntu-support, to not make the future requests scroll off the screen
[14:15] <IdleOne> dabaR: Ubuntu does the same thing except we move the chat to -offtopic
[14:16] <dabaR> :-/
[14:16] <dabaR> I don't find that is done at all
[14:16] <dabaR> I am not there super often, but lately more again
[14:16] <IdleOne> separating a support convo to a different channel would make it difficult for others to follow even if they are not part of the convo
[14:16] <dabaR> I understand, that is the down-side
[14:17] <dabaR> But if there is an announcement of sort, people could follow it.
[14:17] <dabaR> Like !joinme
[14:17] <dabaR> Or rather !joinme | person
[14:17] <IdleOne> dabaR: Something to think about for sure
[14:18] <dabaR> Then ubottu says: dabaR is going to help you with your issue, person, type /j #ubuntu-support
[14:18] <dabaR> Ya, it is an interesting different approach
[14:18] <dabaR> And certainly #ubuntu is getting unmanageable, IMHO
[14:19] <dabaR> Or has been for a while, not sure
[14:20] <topyli> dabaR, let me find the bug you should add a comment on, just a sec
[14:20] <topyli> okay then :(
[14:20] <dabaR> heh
[14:21] <IdleOne> ahh there ya go
[14:21] <IdleOne> lol
[14:21] <topyli> dabaR, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392799
[14:21] <dabaR> topyli: are you following this thread?
[14:21] <dabaR> the bug report thread
[14:21] <topyli> the comment thread is a (partly) good read too, to see what people think
[14:21] <topyli> dabaR, yes
[14:21] <dabaR> Noone mentioned that?
[14:22] <topyli> it's assigned to the ircc, i have no choice! :)
[14:22] <dabaR> Oh, you mean you have to follow it
[14:22] <topyli> yes
[14:22] <dabaR> Did anyone suggest such an idea like the drupal channels use?
[14:24] <topyli> most suggestions do seem to start from the premise that there are too many users and suggest various ways to get them off #ubuntu
[14:24] <dabaR> Well, that is what I suggest too
[14:24] <dabaR> I see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392799/comments/37
[14:25] <dabaR> That one is similar, except not exactly
[14:26] <dabaR> OK, ctrl-f did not return anything that seems to be exactly what I propose
[14:26] <dabaR> So I will make a short comment
[14:26] <dabaR> Thus once again adding to the list of results on Google with my name
[14:27] <dabaR> I am even going to link to my site in the comment, to aid my SEO efforts
[14:27] <dabaR> Heh
[14:27] <topyli> my question was "how noisy is it, really" and i tried to find out (see comment 72). ljl suggested an actual approach of fixing it in 73. after that, the bug has been more quiet. please do chip in
[14:29] <dabaR> Well, 74 has an idea too
[14:29] <dabaR> Really a guided thing would help
[14:29] <dabaR> To present the options, too
[14:29] <dabaR> But there probably is some such thing on the Ubuntu sie
[14:29] <dabaR> Maybe not a client, but probably there is a list of channels
[14:31] <dabaR> topyli: I mean, you do read #ubuntu, eh?
[14:32] <dabaR> Just cause you were asking the question how busy it is
[14:51] <tsimpson> making a #ubuntu is our -support, creating -support would just create another noisy channel with no unique purpose
[15:08] <topyli> @mark oCean #ubuntu-offtopic quit message amicably changed
[15:08] <elky> yay
[15:08] <IdleOne> :)
[15:09] <topyli> apparently memoserv never delivered my memo to him, promised to change it when pm'd
[15:11] <elky> i'm glad you caught him. he doesn't do anything to be noticed until he quits
[15:12] <topyli> aye, all i've seen of him in the past week is quits :)
[16:01] <funkyHat> attention in #ubuntu please
[16:03] <funkyHat> ^ this
[16:06] <marienz> that was a lot of pinging.
[16:07] <elky> kikim, can we help you?
[16:12] <marienz> was AcePreshaw your recurring trigger spammer?
[17:23] <funkyHat> Would it be overstepping the mark to @mark something in a channel where I'm not an op?
[17:25] <ikonia> marienz: yes
[17:26] <marienz> ikonia: thanks. He was asking for a cloak. He's cloaked now, but I'm keeping an eye on him. Prod me if he misbehaves anywhere while cloaked I'm not in.
[17:29] <ikonia> no problem, thank you
[17:31] <funkyHat> I pulled up RoyK for swearing in -server but he refused to accept it was a problem
[18:32] <topyli> funkyHat, well it is. he will hear your advice or continue and find himself removed
[18:33] <funkyHat> topyli: that's why I was wondering about using @mark to make a note of it
[18:35] <topyli> funkyHat, i have no idea what the policy is. i would @mark liberally!
[18:38] <funkyHat> @mark RoyK #ubuntu-server circa 16:00 UTC refused to accept that swearing is not permitted in Ubuntu channels after it was pointed out to him
[18:39] <ikonia> funkyHat: then have him removed, talk to scottK - he's active
[18:39] <ikonia> funkyHat: if someone cant play by the rules, they don't get access
[18:41] <funkyHat> ikonia: ah, I assumed had ScottK had ops in -server he'd have removed him - he was there ⢁)
[18:42] <ikonia> if someone doesn't agree with the policy but follows it, fine, if someone refuses to accept it and is vocal about it, they don't need to be in the channel
[18:42] <ikonia> anyway, time to watch a film
[20:13] <Slart> we might need some help with user doofy in #ubuntu, check the lastlog for specifics
[20:13] <Flannel> Slart: I'd blame ActionParsnip as much as him
[20:28] <Flannel> Hmm, is that word what I think it is?
[20:29] <Flannel> What?
[21:32]  * ikonia returns
[21:43] <jpds> tsimpson: Is ubottu just overloaded with channels?
[21:44] <tsimpson> I think that's most of the problem
[21:44] <jpds> 2 and 4 aren't doing much load avg-wise.
[21:44] <ikonia> can you pull it out of some channels ?
[21:44] <ikonia> eg; I'd be happy to run "bugbot" in the devel/bugs channels ?
[21:45] <jpds> Well; that's what I'm asking for; I need channel names to chuck the others in.
[21:47] <ikonia> I guess #ubuntu-bugs and #ubuntu-devel and #kubuntu-devel would be a start ?
[21:47] <jpds> 4 is in -bugs.
[21:48] <tsimpson> we'll do something about it on monday
[21:51] <jpds> OK.
[21:52] <tsimpson> make sure you
[21:52] <tsimpson> *you're in #ubuntu-bots-team
[21:52] <tsimpson> that's where I plan to discuss it tomorrow
[21:52] <jpds> [195:Freenode/#ubuntu-bots-team:+Ccnt]
[21:52] <jpds> Yep.
[23:25] <bsmith093> is anyone actually human on this channel
[23:26] <bsmith093> !exploit
[23:26] <Flannel> bsmith093: Whats up?
[23:26] <bsmith093> could you test me please
[23:27] <bsmith093> i keep getting the buggy router error
[23:27] <Flannel> bsmith093: What channel are you banned from?
[23:27] <bsmith093> #ubuntu']
[23:28] <bsmith093> i changed the port from 6667 to 8001 and updated the router firmware (linksys wrt54g ver 6)
[23:28] <Flannel> bsmith093: alright, try again in -read-topic to get tested
[23:29] <bsmith093> so what does the test and the exploit actually do
[23:29] <Flannel> The exploit makes your router get paranoid, basically.
[23:29] <Flannel> bsmith093: Alright, you should be able to rejoin #ubuntu now
[23:29] <bsmith093> thanks