[00:25] test me [01:20] sebsebseb called the ops in #ubuntu (shadertest) [01:22] IdleOne: That would probably have been better served as a talking-to instead of a removal. Some people call ops far too prematurely. [01:22] Although in this case, it does appear to be somewhat trollish [01:23] Flannel: agreed that a talking to would of been better but I banned because he posted the full link and not the abreviation [01:24] so it is posting links to jfgi and cursing [01:24] Yeah, but you should rarely ban 'out of the blue' [01:26] IdleOne: are you speaking to him in a query about it? [01:27] Meh. Now you've got me removing people that I should've just let drop ;) [01:31] Flannel: sorry not yet. Got dad asking me to teach him facebook :/ [01:31] Tell him it's a site that steals his privacy and sells it to companies and he should stay away. Problem solved! [01:35] I won't even ask if that is true. it MUST be [01:35] I messaged and asked to join here if he would like to discuss the ban [01:36] Flannel: oh you mean Facebook [01:36] lol yeah I told him that already [01:36] yeah, I meant facebook [01:37] he just uses it to play some game on there and has no personal info like real name or anything [01:38] farmville or mafia wars? [01:38] world at war [01:38] but yeah same thing [01:45] A better idea would be to install gentoo [01:46] now in #k [01:47] yeah well he is now upset so he is going to troll everywhere [01:47] he did not respond to my PM either [01:47] no, he did before the ban as well [01:48] why did ubottu ask me to comment on removal and also on ban? [01:53] IdleOne: because you banned, and you also removed. [01:53] hmm I don't recall the bot asking for separate comments on same user but okie dokie [01:53] IdleOne: (comment on the ban, not the kick/removal) [01:53] Flannel: well I did both now so no biggie [01:55] !yahoo [01:55] At the moment there are many pidgin users experiencing problems connecting to Yahoo IM, you can try changing your paging server to cn.scs.msg.yahoo.com (port 5050) and see if that helps. [01:56] is this still valid? [01:56] ^^^ [09:53] In ubottu, rww said: !women =~ s/Ubuntu women/Ubuntu Women/ [10:06] !women [10:07] she's dead jim... [10:07] The women and men of the Ubuntu Women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively. [10:07] slooooow [10:08] yeah [10:09] gord: might be nice if you could join #ubuntu-bots-devel [10:44] i fix0rd it [11:25] @mark oCean #ubuntu-offtopic chloroform quit message still intact [11:25] The operation succeeded. === nik0 is now known as niko [14:13] hello. [14:14] I recently started going to the drupal channels, and I noticed some interesting thing they do there, which might be a thought for the way the Ubuntu channel works. [14:15] They basically move to the -support channel when someone takes on resolving the issue of a specific person [14:15] So, in #ubuntu, basically support requests, and short responses. If it is a longer fix, you move to #ubuntu-support, to not make the future requests scroll off the screen [14:15] dabaR: Ubuntu does the same thing except we move the chat to -offtopic [14:16] :-/ [14:16] I don't find that is done at all [14:16] I am not there super often, but lately more again [14:16] separating a support convo to a different channel would make it difficult for others to follow even if they are not part of the convo [14:16] I understand, that is the down-side [14:17] But if there is an announcement of sort, people could follow it. [14:17] Like !joinme [14:17] Or rather !joinme | person [14:17] dabaR: Something to think about for sure [14:18] Then ubottu says: dabaR is going to help you with your issue, person, type /j #ubuntu-support [14:18] Ya, it is an interesting different approach [14:18] And certainly #ubuntu is getting unmanageable, IMHO [14:19] Or has been for a while, not sure [14:20] dabaR, let me find the bug you should add a comment on, just a sec [14:20] okay then :( [14:20] heh [14:21] ahh there ya go [14:21] lol [14:21] dabaR, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392799 [14:21] Launchpad bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,In progress] [14:21] topyli: are you following this thread? [14:21] the bug report thread [14:21] the comment thread is a (partly) good read too, to see what people think [14:21] dabaR, yes [14:21] Noone mentioned that? [14:22] it's assigned to the ircc, i have no choice! :) [14:22] Oh, you mean you have to follow it [14:22] yes [14:22] Did anyone suggest such an idea like the drupal channels use? [14:24] most suggestions do seem to start from the premise that there are too many users and suggest various ways to get them off #ubuntu [14:24] Well, that is what I suggest too [14:24] I see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392799/comments/37 [14:24] Launchpad bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,In progress] [14:25] That one is similar, except not exactly [14:26] OK, ctrl-f did not return anything that seems to be exactly what I propose [14:26] So I will make a short comment [14:26] Thus once again adding to the list of results on Google with my name [14:27] I am even going to link to my site in the comment, to aid my SEO efforts [14:27] Heh [14:27] my question was "how noisy is it, really" and i tried to find out (see comment 72). ljl suggested an actual approach of fixing it in 73. after that, the bug has been more quiet. please do chip in [14:29] Well, 74 has an idea too [14:29] Really a guided thing would help [14:29] To present the options, too [14:29] But there probably is some such thing on the Ubuntu sie [14:29] Maybe not a client, but probably there is a list of channels [14:31] topyli: I mean, you do read #ubuntu, eh? [14:32] Just cause you were asking the question how busy it is [14:51] making a #ubuntu is our -support, creating -support would just create another noisy channel with no unique purpose [15:06] In ubottu, DJones said: !codecs is For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [15:08] @mark oCean #ubuntu-offtopic quit message amicably changed [15:08] The operation succeeded. [15:08] yay [15:08] :) [15:09] apparently memoserv never delivered my memo to him, promised to change it when pm'd [15:11] i'm glad you caught him. he doesn't do anything to be noticed until he quits [15:12] aye, all i've seen of him in the past week is quits :) [15:33] In ubottu, blankthemuffin said: no, msn is MSN is supported by Ubuntu's default instant messaging application, empathy. Set up your msn account using the application under System->Preferences->Messaging and VoIP Accounts. [16:01] attention in #ubuntu please [16:02] llutz called the ops in #ubuntu (NTFS) [16:03] ^ this [16:05] actionParsnip called the ops in #ubuntu () [16:06] that was a lot of pinging. [16:07] kikim, can we help you? [16:12] was AcePreshaw your recurring trigger spammer? [17:23] Would it be overstepping the mark to @mark something in a channel where I'm not an op? [17:25] marienz: yes [17:26] ikonia: thanks. He was asking for a cloak. He's cloaked now, but I'm keeping an eye on him. Prod me if he misbehaves anywhere while cloaked I'm not in. [17:29] no problem, thank you [17:31] I pulled up RoyK for swearing in -server but he refused to accept it was a problem [18:17] xomp called the ops in #ubuntu () [18:18] xangua called the ops in #ubuntu (holyquran) [18:18] DCGstudios called the ops in #ubuntu (holyquran) [18:32] funkyHat, well it is. he will hear your advice or continue and find himself removed [18:33] topyli: that's why I was wondering about using @mark to make a note of it [18:35] funkyHat, i have no idea what the policy is. i would @mark liberally! [18:38] @mark RoyK #ubuntu-server circa 16:00 UTC refused to accept that swearing is not permitted in Ubuntu channels after it was pointed out to him [18:38] The operation succeeded. [18:39] funkyHat: then have him removed, talk to scottK - he's active [18:39] funkyHat: if someone cant play by the rules, they don't get access [18:41] ikonia: ah, I assumed had ScottK had ops in -server he'd have removed him - he was there ⢁) [18:42] if someone doesn't agree with the policy but follows it, fine, if someone refuses to accept it and is vocal about it, they don't need to be in the channel [18:42] anyway, time to watch a film [19:38] In #ubuntu, OFFLINE said: !!!this user jobob is offline!!! [20:13] we might need some help with user doofy in #ubuntu, check the lastlog for specifics [20:13] Slart: I'd blame ActionParsnip as much as him [20:28] Hmm, is that word what I think it is? [20:29] Oer called the ops in #ubuntu () [20:29] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16)) [20:29] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16)) [20:29] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16)) [20:29] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16)) [20:29] What? [21:32] * ikonia returns [21:43] tsimpson: Is ubottu just overloaded with channels? [21:44] I think that's most of the problem [21:44] 2 and 4 aren't doing much load avg-wise. [21:44] can you pull it out of some channels ? [21:44] eg; I'd be happy to run "bugbot" in the devel/bugs channels ? [21:45] Well; that's what I'm asking for; I need channel names to chuck the others in. [21:47] I guess #ubuntu-bugs and #ubuntu-devel and #kubuntu-devel would be a start ? [21:47] 4 is in -bugs. [21:48] we'll do something about it on monday [21:51] OK. [21:52] make sure you [21:52] *you're in #ubuntu-bots-team [21:52] that's where I plan to discuss it tomorrow [21:52] [195:Freenode/#ubuntu-bots-team:+Ccnt] [21:52] Yep. [23:25] is anyone actually human on this channel [23:26] !exploit [23:26] There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit [23:26] bsmith093: Whats up? [23:26] could you test me please [23:27] i keep getting the buggy router error [23:27] bsmith093: What channel are you banned from? [23:27] #ubuntu'] [23:28] i changed the port from 6667 to 8001 and updated the router firmware (linksys wrt54g ver 6) [23:28] bsmith093: alright, try again in -read-topic to get tested [23:29] so what does the test and the exploit actually do [23:29] The exploit makes your router get paranoid, basically. [23:29] bsmith093: Alright, you should be able to rejoin #ubuntu now [23:29] thanks