[00:00] jpds: I could try to emit the 'local filesystems' event manuall as per the Upstart wiki. [00:01] *manually === unreal_ is now known as unreal [00:05] need some orientation pleas.... i chrooted a user using these steps http://is.gd/c9lXs .... SFTP works perfect but when i try to initiate a SSH connection its just froze [00:07] enav: I *think* that's the ForceCommand internal-sftp line [00:07] hum let me google that line [00:08] enav: I think it's trying to force all ssh connections for that user to be only sftp [00:08] nop [00:08] i got 2 accounts admind and webmaster [00:10] admin have all powers (SSH, SFTP) but webmaster is chrooted to a specific folder.... so webmaster only can connect via sftp [00:11] i thought chroot an user will jail that user to an specific folder on SSH and SFTP... but for some reason this is disabling SSH cessions [00:13] my suspicion is that ForceCommand does more than just the chroot [00:13] jpds: Right, I think I know how to proceed. Thanks for your time. [00:14] diabolical_: and thanks for your time too. [00:15] ermo: No worries. [00:17] Next up: A forwarding only postfix setup adapted from my previous gentoo configuration. This should be 'fun'. [00:17] * ermo does his *NINJA VANISH* trick === f1yback is now known as carlsagan === carlsagan is now known as f1yback [00:31] how do you do that funny trick? [00:43] hi guys [00:43] happay weekedn to all [00:43] happy weekend i mean === unreal_ is now known as unreal [00:52] hi anyone here a ubuntu a senior sysadmin i would like to ask if i can apply as an apprenttice or trainee... [00:53] :) [00:54] ruben23: best way to do that is probably get a lot of real world experience... sign on as a jr. admin at a hosting company maybe? === unreal_ is now known as unreal [00:58] SpamapS: its not actually areal job but i want to learn the ways and expertise of senior sysadmin.. [00:59] SpamapS: but thte one your suggesting, hope its possible that would be a good learning ground === unreal_ is now known as unreal [01:20] by default does the ufw send its firewall rules to iptables and if so when? [01:34] why a folder to jail some SFTP user need to be owned by root????? [01:35] cd / [01:54] testing a 16 system live is quite niccce [02:04] so I setup UEC and got everything configured with a node controller as well, but I have not been able to install an image from the store yet [02:04] everytime I do, it downloads and then errors out with: "socket.error: [Errno 110] Connection timed out" [02:04] any ideas? [02:06] same error as here: http://open.eucalyptus.com/forum/store-image-installation-erro [02:07] and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1444503 [02:15] after upgrading to lucid i can't login. instead of the text-based login i had, i see a wallpaper. the mouse is working, keyboard does not. (it's a desktop that i removed the gdm) [02:16] I get that same error if I try installing M/DB appliance [02:25] chewbranca: r u talking to me? [02:28] owen1, no, talking about this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9306716#post9306716 === unreal_ is now known as unreal [02:49] bah... getting the same socket timeout when I try and bundle manually as described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/BundlingImages [04:11] nice, managed to figure it out, was a configuration error on the keyboard side of things [04:25] is it possible to install lucid server from a usb? [04:35] owen1: Yes. Use usb-creator to make a USB key from the server iso. [04:40] ScottK: will do. is there a way to know in advance if my machine support install from usb? it's a few years old desktop [04:42] hello, I'm having problems installing server 10.04 64bits, when base install reach 75% it stops reading the cd, and ask me to change media, however, i still can see the content of the disk, any ideas? [05:07] xrol: did you select some special options that maybe aren't on the main cd? [05:09] no, normal install. I check the ubuntu forum, and the bug is reported some days ago, but there is not an answer yet, I also reburn the disk just in case, but nothing [05:09] in some place I read that may be a Sony DVD issue with the new ubuntu [05:10] I mean sony dvd drive [05:12] here is the link to the ubuntu forum where the problem is presented: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1468718&page=1 [05:12] reading.. [05:13] thanks [05:15] xrol: kind of looks like that link suggests your DVD is a bit suspect [05:16] the dvd drive? [05:17] thats what everybody seems to be suggesting [05:17] not necessarily the reader, but the burner too.. could be either [05:19] the problem with that is that I can pess Alt+F2, access the console, and access the dvd contect, from the same server I'm installing, and it doesn't present any read errors, how is taht the installation can't read what I can from the same disk? [05:20] Possibly a checksum fails on a package install. [05:22] I'll try another burner and another reader, thank you [06:20] i just installed lucid and noticed that during the installation i got message about no connection to the internet. [06:20] the installation is completed. how to establish connection(wired at first) [06:32] Is there any kind of monitoring service that I can install on my server that will email me when certain thresholds are broken, like CPU goes over 9 for more than 10 seconds, etc [06:40] damn.. munin is the perfect answer for fbc-mx [06:40] he waited a whole 2 minutes for an answer [07:10] greetings, im having issues installing 10.04 server on a system with an MSI KT4V mobo [07:10] has anyone heard of this? [07:10] disc integrity checks out, I tried a different optical drive on another system (Dell Dimension), setup program seems to run fine [07:11] when I transfer the dvd drive to the other system, it hangs again at the keyboard select screen [07:11] whats going on ? [08:00] nobody? wow [08:02] oh, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04%20LTS/installation-guide/ 404's [08:04] I have a transparent Squid cache and behind it severak Ubuntu desktop computers. Will Squid cache package updates and save bandwith? Are APT repositories cachable by default?a [08:16] New bug: #581193 in ntp (main) "ntp init script fails to start ntpd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/581193 [08:21] every rebbot i have to run 'sudo dhcp eth0' to have internet connection. how to tell ubuntu to do it for me? [08:21] New bug: #581196 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.7.0-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/581196 [08:44] what package do i need so i can have a wireless network plugin on my panel? (using xfce) [08:50] you mean like X? [09:02] RoyK_wrk:solved it already.. [09:09] i can't see my any wireless network. how make ubuntu 'discover' my wireless? [09:09] (iwconfig shows me wlan0) [10:02] owen1: iwlist wlan0 or something like that [10:11] New bug: #581240 in dhcp3 (main) "cannot connect to router via ethernet - lucid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/581240 [10:36] New bug: #581246 in c3p0 (main) "Sync c3p0 0.9.1.2-4 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/581246 [10:48] 11:48:27 up 1 day, 19:52, 1 user, load average: 20.40, 20.18, 20.11 [10:52] ubuntu runs quite well on 16 cores :D [10:55] I wish I could get Ubuntu to run ._. [10:55] hi all [10:56] someone know some good tutorial for heartbeat? [10:59] I think that's heartbeat's been superseeded by pacemaker [11:04] Hey [11:04] I have a 6.06.2 installation [11:04] Why is there no mplayer in the repos ? [11:04] is there a good reason to run 6.06 these days? [11:04] I dont have X installed, only commandline. [11:05] yes, I just have it for fun [11:05] nothing serious [11:05] upgrading to 8.04 or 10.04 might help [11:05] Why cant I use what I want [11:05] isnt that the policy of opensource, no forceful updates [11:05] I can use what I want [11:06] of course you can :) [11:06] thank you :) [11:07] but don't complain about the lack of packages in ancient distros [11:07] no. I was just asked [11:07] asking * [11:08] * RoyK installs slackware 2.3 on Mikey^'s box [11:08] can I use the cd installer to upgrade a 9.10 machine to 10.04? [11:08] Iceman_B|nbk: it's easier to just run do-release-upgrade [11:09] doesnt that break all sorts of things? [11:09] RoyK: Thank you, I want someone to install slackware :) [11:09] last time I did that I ended up with 6 kernels [11:09] and a face that looked like this: °_°? [11:09] 6.06 is not that old.. Its not like I am using debian 1.0 or something [11:09] it installs a new kernel, yes [11:09] but it doesn't break things [11:09] well, mostly it doesn't :) [11:09] hasn't broken any of my boxes yet [11:10] okay [11:10] well I guess it shouldnt, im using very little additional packages [11:10] the online upgrade will also use the latest packages [11:10] meaning less bugs [11:10] or newer bugs :) [11:10] newer bugs are always better than old ones [11:10] but, say I do want to delete all other kernels and just use the latest 32-bit server kernel, how would I do that [11:11] (on 9.10, with aptitude) [11:11] just apt-get remove them [11:11] dpkg -l will list install packages - remove the ones you don't want [11:12] yeah but, I never know which package I need [11:12] for each kernel, there are 2 or 3 packages [11:12] some of em are meta [11:14] pastebin the output of [11:14] dpkg -l|grep linux-image [11:14] gimme 5 minutes, need to move my server to its dark hole again and boot it [11:15] black hole server :) [11:20] cupboard box :p [11:21] * Iceman_B|nbk <-- poor ex-student turned NEET [11:23] Linux Rin-chan 2.6.31-21-generic-pae #59-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 24 08:47:55 UTC 2010 i686 <-- it says this when I log in [11:23] dpkg paste coming up [11:23] Iceman_B|nbk: no, it says when the kernel was built [11:24] that will be removed in maverick [11:24] RoyK: http://dpaste.com/195207/ [11:24] from motd [11:24] ivoks: what will? [11:24] timestamp when kernel was built [11:25] why? [11:25] users wouldn't get that info when they log in [11:25] it's useless [11:25] ah, in motd, yes [11:26] Iceman_B|nbk: is this a server? [11:27] he doesn't have latest updates, fwiw [11:27] RoyK: ya [11:27] current kernel is -22 [11:28] I installed it with 9.04 server edition I believe [11:28] then at some point I did an online upgrade [11:28] Iceman_B|nbk: uname -r [11:29] oh [11:29] I guess it's 2.6.31-21-generic-pae [11:29] why not -server? [11:29] I have no clue :) [11:29] well, just run the upgrade [11:29] you can clean up later [11:29] well, you obviously installed ubuntu-desktop package [11:29] you can't hide from us [11:29] which I didnt want to ._. [11:29] we know everything :) [11:29] noes! [11:30] you can run, but you can't hide [11:30] I'll just smoke then :p [11:30] right so, upgrade time [11:30] i doubt it got installed by it self :) [11:31] ivoks: I want the server to run with as little stuff as possible, its running on an 9y/o Dell Dimension [11:31] "do-release-upgrade" is it? [11:31] yes [11:34] well, this machine is upgrading now [11:35] shouldn't take too long [11:35] well [11:36] since he installed ubuntu-desktop, it might take long :) [11:36] 285 megs [11:36] maybe you just installed the kernel [11:36] hm... [11:36] question; what cpu is that? [11:38] if it's an older CPU [11:38] it might not support PAE [11:38] and, afaik, all -generic and -server package are now pae enabled [11:38] meaning, you won't be able to boot those kernels [11:39] fear not, there's -386 version, for those old CPUs [11:40] ivoks: P4 1.6 Ghz [11:40] i can log into my machine with my rsa key once, but once i log out it denies me access until I restart the machine..... [11:40] 256meg RDram [11:40] right [11:40] so, it doesn't support pae [11:40] nope [11:40] I dont think that existed 9 yrs ago :) [11:41] there you go [11:41] now you know why you have -generic kernel [11:41] okay [11:42] wait, not okay [11:42] there are only server kernels with PAE support? [11:43] server kernels work only on CPUs that support PAE, that's right [11:45] we have only one kernel now, anyway [11:46] and that's -generic [11:46] there's -386 for those with non-pae cpus [12:04] there it goes [12:08] on lucid? [12:09] Linux Rin-chan 2.6.32-22-generic-pae [12:09] oh [12:09] ravi@Rin-chan:~$ uname -a [12:09] Linux Rin-chan 2.6.32-22-generic-pae #33-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 28 14:57:29 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux [12:10] seems like it [12:10] oh fsck [12:10] well the welcome message said 10.04 LTS [12:13] it is [12:13] 2.6.32 is in lucid [12:14] Iceman_B|nbk: lsb_release -a should show most of it [12:14] Iceman_B|nbk: there you are - no bugs yet :) [12:24] well, I only started irssi so [12:24] lets see if my samba share is still dancing [12:25] Lady Gaga says yes [12:25] * Iceman_B|nbk sings along with "Bad ROmance" [12:35] How do I set it up so that my home directory is NOT encrypted? [12:44] don't enable encryption :) [12:44] I just deleted my user and created him again [12:44] what a pain [12:44] using encryption means you cant use key login ssh [12:44] unless you are logged into the system and your home is mounted [12:44] :( [12:45] not for first login, no [12:45] which is quite understandable [12:50] bbl [13:50] <_ruben> storrgie: there's "tricks" to store your pub key in both the encrypted and non-encrypted homedir, or just move the pub key to some place outside your $HOME .. it remains a nasty issue however though :) [13:52] New bug: #581304 in ntp (main) "ntpdate doesn't work by default in karmic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/581304 [13:52] storrgie: I guess full disk encryption rather than home directory encryption might be easier in that case [13:53] (Can the standard installer do that?) [13:53] penguin42: yeah dont do home dir encryption if you want to ssh in with pubkey access [13:53] penguin42: i am having another ssh issue, mind taking a peek? [13:53] can try, don't know that much about weirder corners of ssh [13:54] well have you set up key based auth with ssh? [13:54] penguin42: I think you should be able to ssh in based on key auth the second time you try [13:54] iirc linux keeps the encrypted volume mounted after first login [13:55] RoyK you are correct [13:55] I'm not entirely sure that's a good thing, though, security-wise [13:57] honest opinions - how do you guys find ubuntu server in comparison to centos et al ? [13:58] it seems to be getting taken a lot more seriously these days as a server distro (unlike the past) [13:59] im curious about it [14:00] I've been using a lot of distros over the years, but I'm quite confident with using ubuntu [14:01] i guess my main concern... [14:01] echosystm: I'd still use Centos/RHEL for a server [14:01] I guess a lot boils down to taste or even religion for some, but our ubuntu servers work well [14:01] ive always found quality to be a bit hit and miss in ubuntu as a desktop os, in comparison to debian for example [14:01] echosystm: Well for a public facing one, for myself I'd use Ubuntu [14:01] ubuntu is very good for servers [14:01] we have about 20 ubuntu machines now [14:01] moving the redhat stuff to ubuntu when we can [14:02] but things like installing java are about a metric bajillion times easier than on centos [14:02] and thats a scientific fact [14:02] ;) [14:02] I know [14:02] im drawn to ubuntu for this reason alone really [14:02] echosystm: we have a bunch of scientists using lots of libraries that aren't even thought of in the redhat camp [14:03] installing those by hand is a bitch [14:03] yeah [14:03] in ubuntu they're all in the repository already [14:03] yeah, thats what i love about ubuntu [14:03] everything is in the repo [14:03] less work, more time off [14:03] yeh apt and the ubuntu/debian repos are way better than the centos/rhel ones [14:03] ive noticed parallels have started supporting ubuntu too [14:04] for plesk [14:04] * RoyK just uses vbox [14:04] so i figure ubuntu can't be too bad [14:05] I'd recommend using 8.04 for critical servers [14:05] 10.04 was just released - there might be bugs still [14:05] isnt 8.04 almost EOL now though? [14:05] echosystm: i think it has a couple more years [14:05] supported until april 2013 [14:05] ah, cool [14:05] it's worth waiting a little while until we all figure out how to debug lucid [14:05] tbh, i [14:06] i'd really like to see ubuntu LTS based off debian stable [14:06] then the 6 month releases off testing/sid [14:07] i guess that was the idea behind trying to sync the freezes [14:07] anyway [14:07] so the basic rule is to only use LTS releases and wait a little while between them, yes? [14:08] yes [14:08] ok [14:08] easy [14:08] 8.04 is really rock stable [14:08] im using it at work as my desktop [14:08] and i notice some bugs still [14:08] but it could be virtualbox [14:08] echosystm: But the bugs are known [14:09] perhaps with X - I don't know many people still using 8.04 for their desktop [14:09] echosystm: Known bugs, none of them too bad [14:09] yeh for a desktop I'd move on [14:09] ive been trying to find the time to update, but work... priorities :P [14:10] we only have one server in production with 10.04 - just installed - numbercruncher thing - so I don't know yet - seems stable so far, running at a load of about 20 [14:13] RoyK: Does it do anything other than crunch? Does it do any servery like things - e.g. NFS or smb serving heavily? [14:13] I try to get uec running for the first time. So far I can run "euca-describe-availability-zones verbose" but I get for free/max always 0. I think it has todo with the storage/lvm - does the SC require a special name for the volumegroup? [14:13] penguin42: not this box [14:13] penguin42: 16 core baby with 64 gigs of RAM [14:14] penguin42: modelling volcanic ash transport [14:14] RoyK: Yeh you said - we can blame you now for our closed airports [14:14] :-) [14:15] heh - not really - we're just trying to make the models better so that you can keep them open a little longer [14:15] one of our scientists have even developed a sort of camera that can be installed in aircraft to detect volcanic ash so they can navigate around it [14:15] nice [14:16] http://www.nicarnica.com/ [14:43] hello people, for some reason my server thinks its a good idea (or just thinks its funny to annoy me) to go into standby mode, does anybody knows how this is possible, and how to disable it? [14:44] ChaosR: Is it just a power management setting ? (A bit odd for a server, but maybe not if it started off as a desktop install) [14:46] I don't even know where to configure power management on a server, and there is no desktop environment installed [14:46] I want to deploy .war file on tomcat6 for that I have created my own instance I have put up .war file in my instance's webapps directory but still not working. Any suggestions. [14:46] Can any one please review my PATH settings. [14:47] ChaosR: It does sound a bit unusual [14:47] Also added virtual host in server.xml. [14:47] ChaosR: Does it do it when idle or when busy or no difference? [14:47] no difference, and the only way to wake it is to press any key on the attached keyboard [14:48] weird [14:48] Using CATALINA_BASE: /home/mukul/practimp.private [14:48] Using CATALINA_HOME: /usr/share/tomcat6 [14:48] Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /home/mukul/practimp.private/temp [14:48] Using JRE_HOME: /usr [14:48] although it might have to with me leaving the ssh session idle [14:48] but that would be even more odd :P [14:51] what happens is that the screen blanks and the network connection is paused (but not dropped) [14:51] every new connection from my end to the server times out, and every existing connection will resume as soon as I return the server to the normal state [14:53] ChaosR: It's sitting at the console? [14:53] penguin42: what do you mean? [14:53] at the text console [14:53] yes, asking for user/pass [14:55] you could try logging in on the console and doing setterm -powersave off -blank 0 and I think that sohuld disable any monitor powersaving/blank (although I'm not 100% sure-blank 0 is the disable rather than instant!) [14:55] at least if anything more subtle is happening it might let you see it [14:56] ChaosR: Is there anything in the logs? [14:56] what logs specifically [14:56] /var/log/messages [14:57] nothing interesting [14:58] "possible SYN flooding on port 54289. Sending cookies.", but I guess thats just bittorrent [15:03] hey can any one help. [15:03] penguin42: how can you see the current setterm settings? [15:03] Mkools: sorry, I know nothing about tomcat [15:03] ScottK: quick question about opendkim... does it just need to be installed like the older dkim-filter package? [15:04] ChaosR: Not sure [15:06] stty -a does not show any of the power features [15:10] what is a cms for ubuntu-server that uses less memory and fast? I do not want to install joomla or drupal [15:12] teddy: apt-cache search is a good way of finding packages - e.g. apt-cache search cms and then weed out things that are a different meaning of cms [15:51] does anyone understand what drives /etc/init/bridge-network-interface.conf - I can see that I've got an instance called virtbr0 that must have come from kvm but I don't quite see how it got started (and similarly I don't see what started dnsmasq from libvirt) [15:51] perhaps a more general question is how do multiple instances work in upstart [16:00] How to share a USB Printer connected to Ubuntu Server with another Ubuntu Computers ? [16:01] make sure it is shared by cups [16:01] penguin42, how to do ? [16:01] and then you should be able to give the ipp url of the printer to the other machine [16:02] egsome: How have you configured it locally? [16:02] penguin42, using hp setup tool [16:02] hmm, I've not got an hp printer so I'm not too sure what it does - are you running gnome? [16:03] penguin42, No, it's a server as i mentioned, and no Gnome installed there as there's no display device [16:03] the hp setup tool is command line? [16:03] ok [16:03] penguin42, yeah [16:04] check /etc/cups/printers.conf [16:04] shared should be Yes [16:04] penguin42, already set to Yes [16:04] check cups is running, check /etc/cups/cupsd.conf allows remote printer sharing [16:05] can u help me with an IBUS issue? [16:05] penguin42, cups is running [16:06] egsome: OK, it may or may not be setup to allow connections from remote machines, but I'd try it - the other machine should be able to browse that machine [16:08] penguin42, i can browse the machine, but i see a folder named "print$", and it ask for password, when i enter the password of my user on the server, it ask again ( means wrong ) [16:08] egsome: Oh, this is sharing to a windows box? [16:08] penguin42, No, All Ubuntu [16:09] egsome: So in new printer go to network printer and then ipp and put in the host name there [16:10] penguin42, i got "This print share is not accessible." [16:12] egsome: my guess is it's something in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf but it's a while since I've fought it - I'd probably use a webbrowser on the serving machine and connect to localhost:631 and go through the config there (I think somehting like w3m or links should be enough) [16:14] penguin42, how to configure using that web interface ? [16:19] egsome: I can't remember, it's quite a while since I did it - you might prefer to edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf [16:20] egsome: /var/log/cups/error_log is also useful to debug [16:28] sommer: re opendkim, you'll also need to make the same config file changes as you had with dkim-milter. Be sure to look at the sample as the options are not 100% identical (it's close). [16:31] New bug: #384762 in rabbitmq-server (main) "rabbitmq-server has excessive dependencies" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/384762 [16:31] penguin42, solved ! , only used http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/doc-1.4/sharing.html [16:32] cool [16:45] Hi, how can I install misdn in Ubuntu 10.04 server? There seem to be kernel modules (which are also loaded for my AVM FritzCard) but no tools to generate /etc/misdn.conf. [16:48] Igramul: not using asterisk, are you? [16:49] RoyK, I want to use asterisk. [16:50] well, good luck [16:50] I work with the crap for some years [16:50] it's not good [16:50] the misdn drivers are also buggy [16:50] most of asterisk is buggy [16:51] since digium doesn't really want to spend money on fixing the code [16:53] Well, buggy software is used all over the world. I already have a prototype for my phone system. However, that's based on Ubuntu 9 server and chan-capi. [16:53] Should I stick with chan-capi or use misdn? [16:53] is Klaus Peter's code still alive? :) [16:54] I guess capi will be better [16:54] that is, I don't know [16:54] I haven't been in that business for two years [16:54] and I hope I won't go back there [16:55] hmm - it's not for business in my case, I want to use it for the phone system in my new house. [16:55] asterisk is a piece of shit [16:55] Anything better in sight? [16:55] freeswitch is probably better [17:03] RoyK: watch your language please ⢁) [17:10] funkyHat: watch my hat [17:10] * funkyHat watches [17:10] is funkyHat some sort of christian bot in here? [17:11] last I checked I wasn't using any words not in the Oxford dictionary [17:11] RoyK: No. In Ubuntu channels we do prefer to keep language a bit milder that is common in non-Ubuntu channels. [17:12] I keep my language to what's in the dictionary [17:12] RoyK: in Ubuntu channels we try to keep the discussion family friendly, that includes not swearing. [17:12] if any religious prats want me to afrain from using the whole of it, be my guest [17:14] how many kids are using ubuntu servers? [17:14] and of those kids, which of them aren't used to "swearing"? [17:15]