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JanC00:21
* JanC has an all-day release party tomorrow (or today really, as it's past midnight here)00:22
JanCnot much time for nursing hangovers  ;)00:22
nigelboh, well, maco's back :)03:59
macoyes04:00
nigelbI did wonder whom to poke to make +r04:00
macoi checked freenode's faqs to find out if it was +r or +R i wanted :P04:02
nigelbI forget what +R does, keeps them from joining and +r keeps them from talking?04:02
* nigelb thinks he got them the other way aruound04:03
macono04:03
macobackward04:03
nigelbnote to self: small is powerful in frenode04:03
elkyhave we seen life from the graner camp yet?12:18
nigelbelky: dont think so12:19
elkyno dents since she was heading over, and no failbook activity since friday12:23
PendulumI didn't see her before I left yesterday12:23
nigelbelky: calm before the storm starts12:25
nigelbanyway she'll be online tonight whereever she is, uwn12:26
elkysure. I was hoping she could be around for the opening of voting, since I've been holding off in hopes of someone responding with their waiver12:26
akgranerelky, hey!12:55
akgraner:-)12:55
elky\o/12:55
akgranermade it home about 8 hours ago12:56
elkysleep and smothering kids with hugs had priority? :)12:56
akgraner:-)12:56
akgraneryeppers - found out my daughter placed 3rd overall in her 1st wrestling competition :-) and my son has decided to play trumpet and not trombone next year all that good stuffs12:57
Pendulumooh... congrats to your daughter!12:57
akgranerPendulum, thanks I'll tell her13:00
* AlanBell takes hint and sends a mail13:15
elkyAlanBell, well it's not your waiver that i'm worried about. But, he's had 24hrs to respond, and a baby chewing a mouse in front of a debinstall isn't a huge loss13:18
AlanBellI see. cute, but misses the "using" part of the brief13:19
elkyyeah, there's a few ambiguous ones in the mix13:21
elkyhttp://elkbuntu.net/ubuntuwomen/ <-- you can vote now13:21
elkyplease blog/twee/denti/book13:22
akgranerwoo hoo!!!13:22
elkyakgraner, you want dibs on planet or should I?13:23
akgranerelky, you can - I'll blog later today - :-)13:23
akgranersince it was your idea13:23
akgraner:-)13:24
elkymeh, you just wanna steal my text, i knows it :P13:24
akgranerok  - well there is that  too :-P13:24
akgranerhehe13:24
akgranergotta get uwn out - I'll dent and tweet  - then work up a post laters13:24
akgranerelky, thanks for all your hard work on this!13:25
elkyblog will be in a bit, just thought to make a grid of the pics13:25
elkythere's a nice even 30 of them, very doable13:25
akgraner:-) awesome13:28
IdleOneGreat pics, all of them. but I thought it was meant to be from ages 2-12? and also showing the child using Ubuntu?13:30
darkrosesome of those pic's are diabetes inducingly cute13:30
IdleOneAnyway I voted on the one I felt showed the girl actually "using" the computer.13:31
elkyIdleOne, you should have seen the duplicates i left out. one guy submitted about 20 of the one child, each with a minute change to the monitor13:32
elkysome of the dupes had kids not even touching the computer13:32
IdleOnethere are a couple in thee where you see the kid using a laptop but don't see the screen13:33
IdleOnethere*13:33
elkyIdleOne, right, so i'm to call the parents liars. sounds useful.13:36
IdleOneNo! that is not what i am saying13:36
elkyi realise they don't all *scream* ubuntu13:37
macohard to see a kid's face and the screen unless they pose so i suspect a back-of-a-head is gonna win :P13:37
elkybut it's up to the audience now13:37
elkythere's a few really good ones in there. like the little pink clad blondie with the tiara next to the monitor13:38
IdleOnemy personal favorite is Photo #, can I say?13:38
elkyyep13:38
IdleOne#113:39
IdleOnethe look on her face to me just says. I am thinking about what i am doing here.13:39
elkyhow is she "the one" that has the girl using the computer? there's a few with the same amount of interaction in there13:40
IdleOneNot sure what makes that pic "the one" is to me :)13:41
elky27 and 28 are my favourites13:41
elkythe baby one where the parent has written "dear kernel please don't panic" is just lols13:42
IdleOnehehe yup I liked that one also13:42
IdleOne28 is also very nice13:42
elky28 is a sign that her brother will make a good photographer13:43
macoyes13:45
macothat is a very nicely done photo13:45
IdleOneWell whichever submission wins it is awesome that so many people got involved13:45
elkyyeah13:45
elkyi'm still grumpy at the dude who sent in a pic of his daughter with 2 friends in their pjs. a waiver for his kid, no waiver for the other kids.13:46
elkyjust... argh13:46
elkyI just don't understand people like that.13:47
elkyis there some tool I can feed 30 photos to and have it make a grid of them? this is tedious...13:48
IdleOnelike a collage?13:49
elkyyeah13:50
IdleOnePicasa for linux does it13:50
IdleOneprobably others too13:50
elkyas in, it'll make the images in to one single one?13:51
macofotowall according to apt-cache search13:56
macoi mean, thats a package name for making collages13:56
IdleOneelky: yes14:00
elkyE: Couldn't find package fotowall14:00
elkyi'm not on lucid though, is it a newish package?14:00
darkroselooks like it's on getdeb14:04
elkyeww14:07
IdleOneelky: it is in Universe14:07
IdleOneLucid not sure about karmic14:08
darkrosehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=fotowall14:08
darkrosejust lucid by the looks of it14:08
IdleOne<ubottu> Package fotowall does not exist in karmic14:08
elkyIdleOne, i'm on karmic, i found lucid frustrating enough on the netbook where the window controls favour overflowing windows. i'm not in a hurry to be infuriated for my entire work day yet14:08
macocan try grabbing it from archive.ubuntu.com and see if itll install anyway14:09
elkytrue14:09
elkyError: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt4-network (>= 4:4.6.0)14:11
elkynot so :(14:11
IdleOneI got shot in the forehead at paintball yesterday :/14:11
IdleOnewrong channel14:12
darkroseelky: online tool? http://www.photovisi.com/14:12
elkymaco, want to make me a collage with http://elkbuntu.net/ubuntuwomen/pics/thumbs/thumbs.tar.gz plzkthx? :)14:12
elkyooh that might just work darkrose14:13
darkrose:)14:13
elkyclassy, it filters .JPG out.14:14
elkythats just special14:14
macoelky: how big?14:15
elkymaco, not much bigger than 500px wide if possible14:15
elkyotherwise blog will complain14:16
maco:( it acts in inches and centimeters14:16
elkyi can resize, just make it a reasonable size14:16
elky(and what the...?)14:17
macoits thinking of print media14:17
maco96dpi...500px...ill tell it 5 inches14:17
macothis program is great if you want to control placement/rotation just like on real paper, but it has no automated "just make 'em all fit, ok?!?!?!" mode14:19
elkyyeah, see this is what i want. apparently "metapixel" should do the same thing, but it consistently responds with the --help output no matter what I give it14:20
elky(it's non-gooey)14:20
macoyes i just tried the same thing14:22
elkyhttp://www.shapecollage.com/online/?cid=f8t5i13c is the closest i have got so far, but it's a bit haphazard14:33
macoya know, lemme see what digikam can do14:37
elkyi thought fspot could do stuff, but it's... useless :(14:39
macoboo14:39
macokipi plugins cant do this so neither digikam nor gwenview is useful for it14:39
elkyfiiiiiine, i'll install rainbow borg on my 'puter :(14:41
elkymean technology14:41
elkyif freaking javascript can do this stuff, how come real software cant? :(14:42
IdleOnerainbow borg?14:43
elkygoogle14:43
IdleOneoh14:43
IdleOneI use a very unscientific way of chosing what apps I use14:44
IdleOneif it works for me I use it14:44
IdleOnenot always FOSS but it is what it is14:44
elkywell, we were trying to figure what matched that criteria14:44
nigelboh yay, akgraner is back :)14:45
elkynigelb, go help  her with UWN :P14:45
darkroseelky, still need that collage?14:45
nigelbelky: I've done some blog post she can re-tweet14:46
nigelbre-post14:46
akgraneras long as it falls between the 9th and the 15 for this edition :-)14:48
elkyok. i'm officially sold on picasa.14:48
macohehe14:48
IdleOneelky: :)14:48
IdleOneit works14:48
elkyi mean after it gave my hdd a coronary scouring out every single image file it contains, i have a mosaic in like 5 seconds14:48
IdleOnethat is all I have to say about it14:49
nigelbwait, picasa for linux is out?14:49
IdleOnebeen out14:49
nigelblast time I had to something, I booted into windows to get it done and booted back14:49
elkynigelb, mum has been using it for years, so yeah14:50
nigelbI like photo of the girl with the blue T14:50
macothey "ported" it...it depends on wine :P14:50
nigelbshe's so serious14:50
elkynigelb, yeah, it's hard to prove she's using ubuntu though. she's one of the ones idleone was annoyed at14:51
IdleOnelol I was not annoyed14:51
IdleOneI was just saying in a non challant way that "I" thought the use of Ubuntu had to be evident14:52
nigelbwell, to be honest we can't judge that without an lsb_release14:52
nigelbbecause any linux distro can be made to look like ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu14:53
elkyyeah, exactly14:53
elkyand to be honest this is about getting ubuntu[-women] visible. If a mac fanboi want's to sell hir soul to do so, then I'm not going to stop them :P14:54
nigelbelky: +1 :)14:54
nigelbawww, #25 looks even cuter14:55
* nigelb finished voted and confirmed.14:57
elkyooookay... this is lol: http://www.geekosophical.net/?p=48615:01
elky(look at the post id)15:01
nigelbum, whats special about 486?15:02
nigelboooh, intel 48615:02
nigelbmy first computer was a 386 with win 9515:03
elkynigelb, yah, the geeky number factor15:04
nigelbelky: :)15:04
nigelbooh, uds pics are up :)15:09
nigelbhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/54757453@N00/15:09
nigelbI think amber was in the 'we're not going to take it'song.  Awesome :)15:11
Pendulumthe poster was15:17
elkyakgraner, did we decide a date to end the voting, can you remember? 28th is the announcing. Do we want a whole 10 days? If we ask jane for her fave and second fave, then we can really close it 27th. what do you think?15:18
akgraner27th 2359 UTC  sounds good to me15:18
elkycoolies15:19
elkyfront page of wiki and front page of competition wiki namespace updated15:20
elkyoh cute, someone is really bad at hiding their recidivist voting15:43
elkyhint: if your full name is in all the addresses and they're all from the same IP, i'm going to notice15:44
AlanBella single absolute favourite is a bit harsh :-)15:49
elkyAlanBell, for you, yeah :P15:49
elkywhich means you only +1 the girls and dont fave anyone else15:50
elkybut meh15:50
AlanBellmeh indeed, I voted for all those I liked (and felt met the brief)15:53
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czajkowskialoha16:23
elkyHmm... what linux video editing stuff lets you add text?17:09
nigelbelky: hardway kdenlive but interace is confusing17:10
nigelbharder way, do the text part on gimp17:10
elkyi had a poke ad kdenlive17:10
elkyi have the montage part, but i cant find the text in it17:11
elkyi want the text to do stuff, like move17:11
elkyseparate from the photo17:11
elkybecause i like to make things harder.17:11
nigelbcan you set it as transparent and make that picture to move?17:11
elkyI was kind of hoping to avoid adding another 30 image files to the equation17:12
* nigelb doesn't have much idea :(17:13
nigelbmost of my editing I've done in adobe premiere17:13
nigelbelky: oh, wait, you're making a video for the competition?17:14
elkyYeah, for a voting reminder in a few days17:15
nigelbhm, my crazy ideas seem to be not *that* crazy.. hehe17:15
elkykdenlive does make it really easy to montage photos though, for real17:16
darkrosecould you just make an animation in gimp?17:16
elkybut it kept erroring out saving ogg17:16
elkydarkrose, i could, but it'd ruin the photo quality of the pics17:16
nigelbelky: try one of the proprietary files and then convert tht to ogg?17:16
elkyAnd take an eternity17:17
elkynigelb, yeah, i did. but it still doesn't fix the text issue17:17
nigelbwell, better than nothing :D17:17
darkrosek, I just have a gimp adiction :)17:17
elkydarkrose, oh, i understand. you and akk can go off in your gimp addiction corner when she next shows up :P17:17
nigelbhaha17:17
darkrosehehe ok17:17
elkyshes in -women now, actually17:17
nigelbwhatever you talk about, there's always somone who knows exactly what you're talking about :D17:18
elkysomeone needs to find me 2:19 of appropriate CC music to steal for this17:32
nigelbelky: um, ask akgraner to play something on the guitar for you? :D17:41
nigelbelky: this might help http://creativecommons.org/legalmusicforvideos17:41
akgranerwhat kind of music - I'll ask Becca to play and record something17:41
elkyakgraner, something that fits with the video17:42
elkyreally have no idea what17:42
AlanBelltwisted sister?17:42
nigelbhttp://dig.ccmixter.org/music_for_film_and_video17:42
AlanBellperhaps not17:42
nigelbelky: ^17:42
darkrosesomething from freeloops do the job?17:42
nigelbwow, the music on that site is pretty cool17:43
nigelbelky: Try out 'See you later' from the site I liked above17:43
akgranerI'll pop back in  - in a few back to UWN :-)17:44
nigelboops, should have written amber instead of her nick. iForgot17:45
akgranerhehe17:46
akgraner:-) no worries17:46
elkynigelb, hmm, stuff on there is a bit... um... not of relevant generation to the kids?17:48
elkywas kinda hoping for something a bit happy and cute17:48
nigelbelky: we'll have to go through every song17:48
elkyyeah17:48
czajkowskihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_75rGr5vENs :D I'm loving this song17:48
nigelbczajkowski: I listen to it every day17:49
darkrose"happy and cute" now I've that Barny song in my head :(17:50
nigelbelky: http://dig.ccmixter.org/music_for_film_and_video?offset=20 'silence awaits' ?17:50
nigelbnooo17:50
nigelbthat too ends up as slightly rock :/17:50
Pendulumnigelb: we (as in czajkowski and I) listened to it more than that. just about every morning she put it on after getting up17:51
nigelbPendulum: same here17:51
nigelbalso whenever I was bored during sessions17:51
elkyfreaky mdz head17:51
nigelbwhen I was sleepy, I was listening to jono and jorge singing titanic17:51
elkythat's all i can think now. freaky mdz head THAT MOVES17:51
czajkowskiPendulum: great way to wake up :)17:51
nigelbelky: haha17:52
nigelbczajkowski: no need of alarm17:52
czajkowskinigelb: nope myself and Pendulum woke up without alarm17:52
nigelbczajkowski: even on the day after allstars?17:53
nigelbwell, you may not have slept at all, that doesn't count17:53
elkynigelb, well you got the sweet bit, but it's a bit sad sounding17:53
darkrosehttp://www.archive.org/details/ChildrenSongsVol1 ?17:53
czajkowskinigelb: nope woke at 6:15am17:53
czajkowskialarm was set fpr 6:4517:54
nigelbczajkowski: WOW!17:54
nigelbelky: http://www.jamendo.com/en/?p=tags is better17:56
Pendulumczajkowski: true to form my body knew what time it was and I was up at 6 this morning without an alarm17:56
czajkowskiPendulum: aye likewise17:56
nigelbelky: it lets you select what type of music you want, YMMV though17:56
nigelbelky: http://www.jamendo.com/en/?m=player&url=album%2F37705 I like :)17:57
nigelbhttp://www.jamendo.com/en/?m=player&url=album%2F44759 - this sounds good too17:59
* nigelb really goes to sleep17:59
elkyThere were 58 voters registered and 46 vote sets were validated by email tokens. <-- already ... compared to last time --> There were 70 voters registered and 55 vote sets were validated by email tokens.19:40
pleia2nice :)20:08
pleia2people like pictures20:08
elkya lot quicker than reading a heap of text, yeah20:12
czajkowskipleia2: you made it back :D20:24
pleia2czajkowski: thanks! you too20:30
czajkowskiaye20:30
czajkowskibeen chilling all day long20:30
pleia2had a flight delay and then a nervous wait through standby on a connecting flight since I missed mine, but all is well20:30
pleia2darn ash clouds :)20:30
czajkowskiaye20:31
czajkowskiour airports are all shut again20:32
elkyin 6.5hrs we have now exceeded the IWD voters.21:53

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