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AquinalWhy is there something like abs_builddir in Makefiles? After distribution they'd be worthless, right?02:19
nipsHello?03:22
myodiskacpi=off  ....  how to make stick in 10.04 LL?05:34
moetunes!grub2 | myodisk05:36
ubottumyodisk: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub205:36
moetunesmyodisk: add it to the kernel line after splash05:36
myodiskI have one install (laptop) with /boot/grub/menu.lst and a desktop with out.   Why no list?05:38
myodisk(why no menu.lst)05:38
moetunes GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic - means it is set up diff - it uses grub.cfg05:39
moetunesbut grub.cfg gets rewritten with kernel upgrades according to the files mentioned in the bot link05:40
myodiskahhh......  laptop was upgraded to 10.04 desktop was fresh install...   Hmmmmm05:40
moetuneslappy should have grub2 then as well05:40
moetunesis there a grub.cfg on the lappy too05:41
myodiskOK...  awesome!!  now I have some hope!!   Thanks very much!05:41
moetunesnp :]05:42
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mufasishow much space does xubuntu need?07:19
bazhang!requirements07:19
ubottuHardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Xubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu07:19
moetunesmufasis: you asked the same thing on #archlinux - just trolling or looking for genuine usable info?07:21
mufasisi only have a laptop right now and it has an 80gb ssd drive07:23
mufasislooking at some different distros07:23
mufasislooking to really learn more about linux07:23
mufasiscant figure out what i want to start on07:23
mufasis=/07:23
mufasisany opinions07:23
bazhang!manual07:24
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/07:24
bazhangread that07:24
moetunesk - you can use about 2.5G as an absolute minimum with xubuntu - no room for anything else - you might like to try dsl if space is an issue07:24
mufasismoe what do you use?07:25
moetunesmufasis: I use a minimal ubuntu with xfce and arch on my lappy07:25
moetunes!minimal07:25
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD07:25
moetunesbut you need to know at least the basics of linux07:26
mufasisi dont know much simple things like how to move around directories make directories delete files stuff like that07:28
mufasisyou said you use minimal ubuntu with xfce isnt that xubuntu?07:29
moetunesmufasis: go with a normal disto until you learn - xubuntu would be best in that regard07:29
moetunesmufasis: almost - but I select diff apps from some xubuntu ones07:30
mufasisdoes xubuntu come with a minimal install ?07:33
RgoodermoteA friend of mine *points to Rydian* is having Audio issues with a Wubi install of Xubuntu. You can find the information needed here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478503 he is describing it as "less latency and more popping"07:33
moetunesmufasis: all *buntus come with the minimal - then diff desktop environments are added07:33
rydian'Cause it had a bunch of latency before I removed pulseaudio. ^^;07:34
moetunesheh07:34
moetunesintel audio?07:34
RgoodermoteYeap, it would be Intel AC7907:34
mufasisno im saying like is there a minimal net install for xubuntu07:35
moetunesmufasis: earlier I did !minimal to show about that - that's what I started with07:36
moetunes!minimal07:36
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD07:37
Rgoodermote*facepalm* Ignore my statement. Sorry.07:37
rydianIt's an FIC AU31 motherboard, nForce2 chipset, I assume the audio is Intel, the wikipedia page on AC97 states so. ^^;07:37
moetuneslspci | grep Audio   will tell07:38
rydianSays "Nvidia Corporation".07:39
moetunesI know nothing about that- what's the full output from lspci | grep Audio ?07:42
rydian00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce Audio Processing Unit (rev a2)07:43
rydian00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)07:43
moetunestwo cards? - that might cause the issue07:43
moetuneswhich is selected as the default?07:44
rydianIt's onboard and I have no addition sound card, odd.  I don't know how to see which one is the default, could you please tell me?07:46
moetunesclick the sound icon in the top panel - it might be a right click to see07:47
rydianAh, I don't have that icon... it may have something to do with the packages I read to remove/reinstall as part of the troubleshooting steps (listed in the forum thread).  Mixer reports "NVidia nForce2 (Alsa mixer)" and "Realtek ALC650F (OSS Mixer)", though the Realtek entry lists far fewer options.07:50
rydianAh, turns out I removed that icon when editing the panels. ^^;  It reports both of those as well, with the nForce2 one first.07:51
moetunesit seems that card uses the intel hd driver - in the file   /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf   do you have a line   options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N   ?07:56
rydianNo, I do not.07:58
moetunesk07:58
moetunesnext step is   lsmod | grep snd07:59
moetunes!paste07:59
moetunes!bot07:59
moetunesthebotisdead...07:59
moetuneshttp://paste.ubuntu.com pls08:00
rydianhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/434229/08:00
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moetunesyep - that is as should been - have you done an update lately?08:01
moetuneswell done ubottu - better late then never08:02
moetunessudo apt-get ipdate && sudo apt-get upgrade08:02
rydianWill do, thank you.08:02
moetunessudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade08:02
moetunesseems to be an lod bug...08:03
moetunesold even08:03
rydianApparently there's no updates.08:04
moetuneso08:04
moetuneswell I'm outta ideas... - not h/ware - tried diff speakers?08:05
rydianYes, no change.  The thing is some applications have latency issues, and some don't.08:06
moetunesmaybe someone else has experienced something similar - you should ask again in a bit or try in #ubuntu - seems strange it is some apps but not others...08:08
rydianI ran SNES9X (which allows choosing the sound system it uses) to test things, right now PortAudio and Open Sound System play fine.  SDL and ALSA play with some latency and cause some gameplay lag, and pulseaudio plays nothing (I removed it as a troubleshooting step, which fixed a bunch of the latency, but not all).08:08
rydianI've had a thread on the ubuntu forums I've been keeping bumped for the past six days, nobody's posted even once. :(08:09
moetunespulseaudio both blos and sux08:09
moetunesyou can use oss as the default08:10
rydianSeems so, multiple people that I'd normally go straight to for linux problems don't want to touch pulseaudio with a 20-foot pole.08:10
moetunesmost suggest it is easiest to remove it08:11
rydianI can switch the overall system to use OSS?08:11
moetunesfrom the panel applet is easiest08:11
moetunes!oss08:11
rydianI'm not sure what you mean.08:12
moetunesthe sound icon in the top panel you have removed? - it lets you select alsa or oss if both are installed iirc08:12
rydianAhhh, I thought that only changed which controls were present on-screen (and in the panel). ^^;08:13
moetunesI never use it or the panel here so...08:15
moetunesbut I never have sound issues08:15
rydianOkay.  The latency issue was mostly fixed by removing pulseaudio (yay!), though I'm getting some popping in audio.  ^^;08:22
moetunesubottu: !sound | last thing I know about it08:25
ubottulast thing I know about it: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.08:25
syn-ackhrm08:26
syn-ackweird actually seeing "i386" on one of my systems08:27
syn-ackerr, wrong channel. Sorry folks08:27
moetunesheh08:27
tyurhello09:33
moetuneshello09:34
mufasishello09:35
moetunesmufasis: decide on a installation yet?09:36
tyurj'ai xubuntu depuis peu, j'ai des pbs pour désinstaller un programme correctement /09:36
moetunes!fr09:37
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.09:37
moetunestyur: ^^09:37
tyursorry !! ;-)09:38
moetunesit's not a prob tyur :]09:38
tyurno thanks bye !09:39
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FreeFullI upgraded to 10.04 and now clicking on Applications doesn't work12:30
knomeFreeFull, try to readd the panel plugin12:32
FreeFullNope, it still doesn't work12:32
knomeFreeFull, have you tried killing panel and rerunning it?12:33
FreeFullYes12:33
FreeFullThe rest of the panel works fine12:33
moetunesif you right click the desktop do you get a usable menu showing applications?12:35
FreeFullDoesn't show applications12:35
moetunesyou can access apps tho? - i might have remembered it wrong12:36
FreeFullNo12:36
moetunesI wonder if menu is still installed - try   sudo update-menus   in terminal FreeFull12:39
FreeFullmoetunes: Worked, didn't give any messages12:41
moetunesFreeFull: so clicking on applications gives a menu?12:42
FreeFullNo12:42
FreeFullI meant the command terminated successfully12:42
moetunesk12:42
moetunesI wonder if the .desktop files aren't executable - is the application entry a .desktop file knome ?12:43
moetunesFreeFull: does right click on applications give a menu to configure it?12:45
FreeFullYes, but I couldn't do anything to make it work12:46
FreeFullLet me check .desktop files12:47
FreeFullThey still work12:47
MalkavianManiacmnight i suggest posting the output of a "ls -l -a" on the panel folders12:48
moetunesMalkavianManiac: all help appreciated :]12:48
moetunesso   ls -a .config/xfce4/panel   then12:49
moetunesso   ls -la .config/xfce4/panel   then I meant12:49
FreeFullNo such file or directory12:50
FreeFullOh wait12:50
MalkavianManiacmoetunes, just to be sure when refering to items in the home directory use ~/ as users may not necessarily be in their home dir12:50
FreeFullDid it in wrong dir12:50
moetuneswell picked up MalkavianManiac12:50
MalkavianManiacls -la ~/.config/xfce4/panel12:50
FreeFullGoing to pastebin it12:51
moetunesk12:51
moetunesdefault to open terminal is in ~ afaik12:51
FreeFullI didn't even notice until now, because I've been using alt+f2 and didn't run much12:51
moetuneswithout a menu I can appreciate that12:52
FreeFullhttp://pastebin.com/7L28L6tk12:52
MalkavianManiacmoetunes, can you please check those file permissions against yours, im in win7 atm12:53
FreeFullWhat was the keyboard shortcut to open the applications menu? Should try that too12:55
moetuneshere the file permissions are the same12:55
moetunesheh - I'm on my dapper server atm...12:56
FreeFullAny ideas?12:59
FreeFullNever had this happen to me before, and I started using Xubuntu when it was 6.1013:00
moetunesI wonder if TheSheep is awake ?13:00
moetunesto help sort out the menu13:01
moetunesFreeFull: in terminal do   xfce4   and hit the tab button twice - an option for a menu?13:02
moetunesI have xfce4-panel here but not xfce13:02
FreeFullxfce4-popup-menu13:02
moetunestry that but it is unlikely to be the one afaik13:02
FreeFullI tried it, terminated without doing anything13:03
moetunesexpected it - the popup menu is a diff thing13:04
moetunesthere's something definitely wrong if there's no menu on right click13:04
FreeFullYou mean that there is no applications when you right click on the desktop?13:05
moetunestry moving ~/.config/xfce4 to ~/.config/xfce4-bak then logout/login to make a new .config/xfce413:05
moetunesFreeFull: yep - end of the right click menu should have applications13:06
FreeFullAccording to the xfce4-popup-menu manpage, "xfce4-popup-menu - shows the Xfce Menu"13:06
FreeFullmoetunes: Ok, I'm going to try that13:06
moetunesluck13:07
FreeFullDidn't work, all that changed was the theme13:08
FreeFullMaybe I should delete .config/menus/applications.menu13:09
moetunesmight be a go13:09
FreeFullNope, didn't work13:11
moetunesone min I'll try google13:12
MalkavianManiaci love that, when a tech is helping someone, google is considered a last resort13:13
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moetuneswho says I'm a tech? ;]13:14
MalkavianManiaci do13:14
moetunesfrom the right click menu is there an option for desktop settings?13:15
andaimy desktop image is gone and the icons are messed up. how do i restart the program that manages that?13:15
andai[ too much stuff open to be worth the effort of logging out and back in ]13:15
MalkavianManiacsudo killall thunar && thunar13:16
moetunesandai: xfdesktop &   in terminal might do it13:16
FreeFullmoetunes: Yes.13:16
andaithunar: no process found13:16
andailol13:16
MalkavianManiachrmm, that must be ubuntu13:17
andaihm?13:17
moetunesFreeFull: from here - http://orderweb.co.za/linuxshop/xubuntu/ - there is a way to start the menu in there13:17
andaixfdesktop & worked tho thanks :D13:17
moetuneswoot!13:17
andailol but it died when i closed the terminal13:17
andaibut restarted13:17
andaihm13:17
FreeFullandai: Use alt-f2 and13:17
andaiyeah13:18
moetunesthe & means it should run seperate from the terminal13:18
andaiyeah13:19
andaiwhich is why i was like lolwtf when it didn't13:19
FreeFullmoetunes: That website doesn't say anything about my problem13:19
moetunesheh13:19
andaiFreeFull: What's your problem?13:19
FreeFull& means that it runs in the background, but it is still the child process of your shell13:19
moetunesThe net result was that I had to right click on the desktop and choose Desktop Settings from the existing menu to enable the desktop menu13:19
FreeFullmoetunes: I already did that13:19
FreeFullDidn't work13:19
moetunesFreeFull: that was the bit i read13:20
moetunesFreeFull: last shot   killall -v xfce4-panel && xfce4-panel &13:22
moetunesshow any errors?13:23
FreeFull** (xfce4-menu-plugin:4649): WARNING **: xfdesktop: Could not locate a menu definition file13:23
moetunesthere you go - nothing we did would have worked13:23
MalkavianManiacso we need a menu definition file13:24
FreeFullsudo update-menus terminates with no errors13:24
moetunes<FreeFull> Maybe I should delete .config/menus/applications.menu - might have just needed to move it...13:25
FreeFullI have a backup, let's try that13:25
moetunesit might have a copt in /etc/xfce13:26
moetunesohh well done :]13:26
FreeFullStill getting the same error13:27
moetunescan you paste that file pls FreeFull ?13:32
FreeFullLast time I checked, wasn't there a global menu file that included the local file?13:32
FreeFullOr was it the other way round13:33
FreeFullAh, other way round13:34
FreeFullhttp://pastebin.com/AEvtPtiF13:34
moetunesafaik it looks in /etc the home13:34
FreeFull"<MergeFile type="parent">/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu</MergeFile>"13:34
FreeFullThere is no applications.menu in that directory13:34
MalkavianManiacokay, time for me to get 5 hours sleep.. night everyone13:35
moetunes/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu - is where it seems to bork13:35
moetunesnight MalkavianManiac13:35
MalkavianManiacwish you luck FreeFull13:35
moetunesFreeFull: in /usr/share is there an xfce4 folder with it in13:36
FreeFullThere is an xfce4 folder, but doesn't have an applications.menu13:37
moetunesk I'll boot my xfce lappy for it13:37
gr8m8!paste13:40
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gr8m8FreeFull: http://paste.ubuntu.com/434365/13:43
moetunesfor the xdg menu13:43
FreeFullThanks13:44
FreeFullDoesn't work :/13:46
FreeFullHmm, http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce4-dev/2008-September/024993.html13:49
moetuneschmod +x the file13:50
FreeFullDoesn't do anything13:51
FreeFullIf I try to run xfce4-appfinder, I get Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-vcDxZVZpNo: Connection refused13:52
FreeFullaborting...13:52
FreeFullIt works if I run it as sudo13:52
FreeFulls/as/with/13:52
moetunestmp is root owned so yep13:58
FreeFulltmp can be written to by normal users13:59
moetunesright click on the desktop - desktop settings - menus tab se;ect show applications menu on right click - nothing changes?14:01
FreeFullI already had that14:02
moetunesk14:02
gr8m8is there a xfce4-menu file in .config/xfce4/panel FreeFull ?14:08
FreeFullYes14:09
gr8m8and killing/restarting the panel with the file added to /etc/xdg did nothing? hmmm14:11
FreeFullI found out apparently there is a /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus/xfce-applications.menu14:14
gr8m8the   /etc/xdg/menusxfce-applications.menu   file should not be executable - my bad FreeFull14:14
FreeFullThe menu plugin disappears from panel when I set the file to that though14:16
FreeFullLet me check for system upgrades14:16
gr8m8disappears when it is set not executable?14:17
FreeFullNo, when I set the custom menu to /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus/xfce-applications.menu14:17
FreeFullgksudo update-manager gives me an error14:20
gr8m8I would just try   sudo apt-get update14:21
FreeFullHmm14:22
FreeFullApparently I didn't have the newest version of libboost, because it was held for some reason14:25
FreeFullUsing aptitude14:25
FreeFullI mean I'm using aptitude right now to fix it14:27
moetunesk14:27
FreeFullGoing to try messing around with dbus too14:30
gr8m8what makes you think dbus is involved if it isn't a rude question?14:31
FreeFullI've been getting dbus socket errors14:34
FreeFullEg. when running xfce4-appfinder (didn't work without sudo, and uses libxfce4menu(14:34
gr8m8k14:35
FreeFullHey, I managed to fix it somehow14:38
gr8m8well done :]14:38
FreeFullEither restarting dbus or choosing Xubuntu Session at the login screen did it14:39
gr8m8prob the session thing14:39
gr8m8as a guess14:39
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FreeFullI read that the position of the menu file was hardcoded in karmic, but changed in lucid14:41
FreeFullI'm going to remove the old session files14:41
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FreeFullThanks for the help15:03
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slow-motionhi17:14
huevolin1990hi I need help in xubuntu 10.04 to install hamachi please17:37
huevolin1990hey i need help to use a .DAT installation guide on xubuntu 10.04 please17:45
charlie-tcahuevolin1990: what is hamachi; where is the package from?17:47
huevolin1990hamachi is a VPN's program17:47
huevolin1990i dont know exactly the origin, but there is a script17:47
huevolin1990u use to install it17:47
huevolin1990its a .dat file17:47
huevolin1990and i can't run it as a program17:48
huevolin1990it should start with the shell17:48
challmanjust upgraded 9.10 to 10.04 and now it boots to a blank screen and now shows out of range. the xorg.conf files are the same. i think it may be video driver based because i was not using the ATI Raedon drivers on 9.10 due to an install problem with the drivers. how can i get it to just boot with a generic video driver?18:01
huevolin1990?????18:03
challmanjust upgraded 9.10 to 10.04 and now it boots to a blank screen and now shows out of range. the xorg.conf files are the same. i think it may be video driver based because i was not using the ATI Raedon drivers on 9.10 due to an install problem with the drivers. how can i get it to just boot with a generic video driver?18:18
challman@deci testing18:42
challman//help18:42
challmantest18:43
charlie-tca!patience18:46
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.18:46
charlie-tcaSometimes you have more people in other channels, so you might want to try #ubuntu18:47
oozyGuys, can you assist me with that bash script http://paste.ubuntu.com/434502/ , i want to reduce mp3 files bitrate but i dont know how to transfer id3 tags to converted files.19:49
soona86is this xubuntu room?????20:57
charlie-tcathis is Xubuntu support, yes20:57
soona86cool finally! :D20:58
soona86i just wanted to know how can mount a fat32 drive20:58
soona86i'm on 8.0420:58
soona86is this the right place to ask? :$20:59
charlie-tcayup20:59
charlie-tca!samba | soona8620:59
ubottusoona86: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.20:59
oozyGuys, can you assist me with that bash script http://paste.ubuntu.com/434502/ , i want to reduce mp3 files bitrate but i dont know how to transfer id3 tags to converted files.21:00
oozySorry for that repeat ;}21:00
charlie-tcasoona86: as far as I recall, in 8.04 you will need to use samba21:00
charlie-tcaoozy: no problem21:00
charlie-tcaI don't have an answer for you, though21:00
oozyHuh, ok :}21:01
soona86samba...i see..will i find that @ add/remove?21:01
Pres-Gassoona86, what is this drive?  An external drive, connecting via USB?21:01
soona86no it's a drive on my hard disk21:02
Pres-Gasahhh21:02
soona86i found some terminal codes for mounting...but the problem is i can't get it to auto-mount..i installed the device manager and it did auto mount the drive but the non-english filenames weren't displayed right21:04
Pres-Gassoona86, OH so it does show up but the filenames are garbled?21:04
Pres-GasWhat language are the names in, soona86?21:05
soona86yeah, file names like this = ?????? ?? ????21:05
soona86they are in arabic. it's funny that i could manage to mount other (ntfs) drives and they show the filenames correctly, but this one..i still can't find a way21:06
Pres-GasSo, you already have Arabic language support installed, soona86?21:07
soona86yeah21:07
soona86can i send the fdisk terminal report here?21:08
robertzaccourevery time my computer starts up, google chrome starts up, and its not even selected in the startup programs. how do i change this?21:09
Pres-Gas!pastebin | soona8621:09
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Pres-Gassoona86, you may want to make sure you have all ar support.  Check this one out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87386421:13
soona86Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes21:14
soona86255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders21:14
soona86Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes21:14
soona86Disk identifier: 0x3c0a3c0a21:14
soona86   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System21:14
soona86/dev/sda1   *           1        1828    14683378+   7  HPFS/NTFS21:14
soona86/dev/sda2            1829        5092    26218080    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)21:14
soona86/dev/sda3            5093        9728    37238670    7  HPFS/NTFS21:14
soona86i think i installed all these language support files..i clicked on apps>>system>>language support>>then i clicked on arabic..isn't this correct?21:17
Pres-Gassoona86, in the future, you paste that into the pastebin page and then give us that link.21:17
soona86oh21:17
robertzaccourevery time my computer starts up, google chrome starts up, and its not even selected in the startup programs. how do i change this?21:17
Pres-Gashehe21:17
soona86sorry i thought that is how it works..21:17
soona86like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/434540/plain/21:18
soona86?21:18
Pres-GasYes21:20
soona86yeah21:20
soona86okay21:20
soona86so what about mounting the drive?21:20
Pres-GasCan you read the files in the terminal?21:21
soona86i have other drives contains files in arabic and they are fine....but the problem is with this certain drive21:21
Pres-Gas...the filenames in the terminal, soona86?21:21
soona86oh...how can i read the files?21:21
soona86just give me the command line21:21
soona86and i'll do it21:21
soona86:)21:21
Pres-GasUmmm...is it mounted now?21:21
soona86yep21:21
soona86the D and the E21:22
soona86D is the one with the problem21:22
Pres-GasAre you familiar with the terminal, soona86?21:22
soona86well, not so much...actually not at all! :$ :$ :$21:22
soona86i just understood some sudo mount lines...but just this line nothing more..21:23
Pres-GasYou know the "cd" command and the "ls" command?21:23
soona86oh and i made a directory! :D21:23
Pres-GasLOL, nice!21:23
soona86lol :D21:23
Pres-GasYou know the "cd" command and the "ls" command, soona86?21:24
soona86hmmm all i know is what cd stands for...it stands for change directory21:24
soona86but don't know how to type the full command line21:25
soona86:$21:25
soona86this is so embarrassing21:25
soona86:$21:25
Pres-GasOkay, another thing you can try is seeing the names in Firefox...in the web address bar type:21:25
soona86yes?21:25
Pres-Gasfile:///path/to/D21:25
Pres-Gasand see if you get a listing of files in FF21:26
soona86i see..but not google chrome21:26
Pres-Gasummm...let's stick with FF for right now21:26
soona86what do path, to, D stand for?21:27
soona86i mean...should i replace them with things on my hard drive?21:28
Pres-Gassoona86, I do not know where your D drive is attached to...only you do21:28
soona86yeah i see21:28
KuwangerIt should be possible to do this, right:  Ubuntu 8.04 -> Xubuntu 8.04.1 (through installing xubuntu-desktop from the xubuntu alternate cd) -> Xubuntu 10.04?21:28
soona86done21:29
charlie-tcaKuwanger: You have to also remove ubuntu-desktop21:29
Kuwangercharlie-tca: Yea.  I did that.21:29
soona86there's an arabic filename and it's shown like this : ??????? ???? ????? ?????21:30
charlie-tcaAre you upgrading live?21:30
charlie-tcaYou will need to make sure you run updates, to have all the files up to date21:30
Pres-Gassoona86, if it is doing that in FF as well and you have ar support I am out of ideas.   :(21:30
Pres-Gassoona86, I would recommend upgrading to 10.0421:31
soona86yeah...21:31
soona86the strange thing is that the filenames on other drives are shown correctly.... :(21:31
soona86thanks for your effort pres :)21:32
soona86could someone please give me the command line for how to mount a fat32 drive?21:32
Kuwangercharlie-tca:  I ran cdromupgrade from the Xubuntu 10.04 alternative iso mounted on loopback.  I chose to not do any internet downloads (I was planning on doing it after the upgrade).  It got as far as installing dbus, the oom killer ended up being spawned, and now the system is unbootable.21:32
equinoxhello is anyone there?22:20
equinoxknock knock?22:21
robertzaccourevery time my computer starts up, google chrome starts up, and its not even selected in the startup programs. how do i change this?22:36
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