[00:00] <Neo--> hm, with looking at source generally?
[00:10] <spm> spiv: looking
[00:10] <spiv> spm: thanks!
[00:10] <spm> ahh. mondays. how I <3 thee
[00:13] <spm> spiv: isn't happy happy; but is back.
[00:15] <spiv> spm: try adding jet lag to your monday
[00:15] <spiv> spm: it's working wonders for me atm! ;)
[00:15]  * spm ponders.... hmmm. perhaps.... no.
[00:15] <spm> heh
[00:15] <spm> how was UDS then?
[00:18] <spiv> Tiring!
[00:18] <spiv> But good.
[04:30] <VoltageX> Hi, any chance I could reclaim a very old Launchpad username?
[04:42] <lifeless> if its yours, trivially.
[04:43] <VoltageX> I no longer have access to the associated email address
[04:43] <VoltageX> this was 2005/6 I think.
[04:44] <lifeless> do you remember the password?
[04:44] <VoltageX> no
[04:44] <lifeless> ah
[04:45] <lifeless> well, you'll need to convince a losa that you're you; as you'll need a new account to open a tick on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad (which is where you should file the ticket), open a new account
[04:45] <lifeless> once you convince em, you can reset the old password to be your new one and combine the accounts.
[04:52] <VoltageX> ah, just managed to merge them
[05:52] <kfogel> Anyone in the room here who has NOT ever edited the help.launchpad.net wiki?  If so, I'd like to borrow you for a quick experiment.
[05:52] <VoltageX> me
[05:53] <kfogel> VoltageX: thanks.  Got a minute, then?
[05:53] <kfogel> VoltageX: basically, if you could go to https://help.launchpad.net/API/Uses and try to edit the last entry in that table (the one about OpenHatch), that'd be great.
[05:54] <kfogel> VoltageX: just add two backticks `` between "Open" and "Hatch" in the note on the right side of the table, for example.
[05:54] <kfogel> VoltageX: I'm expecting that you won't be able to edit, because editing now requires membership in the ~launchpad-doc team (for spam protection, sigh).
[05:54] <kfogel> VoltageX: so if you CAN edit, and yet you are not a member of that team, then our spam protection is not working.
[05:55] <kfogel> VoltageX: (I'm assuming you're not a member of that team, of course.  If you are, let me know.)
[05:57] <kfogel> VoltageX: afk for two minutes, then back
[06:12] <kfogel> VoltageX: gone? :-)
[07:11] <cleary> hi folks, I've setup my first ppa, I've uploaded a source package with dput which succeeded, but I'm wondering how long it will take before I a) see the packages b) receive any sort of confirmation that something is happening?
[07:11] <cleary> it's been ~8 hours so far
[07:13] <VoltageX> kfogel: ack, wandered away
[07:13] <VoltageX> do you still need assistance?
[07:15] <VoltageX> kfogel: when I try to log into help.launchpad it seems to hang trying to connect about halfway through the login process
[08:10] <akheron> cleary: I've always received the confirmation email within half an hour
[08:11] <akheron> haven't uploaded anything in a month, though
[08:12] <akheron> cleary: the system cannot send an email if your source package wasn't signed with a known PGP key, as it doesn't otherwise know which Launchpad user uploaded it
[08:12] <akheron> so check that your package was signed
[10:17] <Laney> kfogel: I can confrm that I'm unable to edit it
[10:37] <ignorante> hi to all
[10:38] <ignorante> i try to upload in my ppa rep a transmission package from maverick , compiled on my lucid
[10:38] <ignorante> dput work , but i don't see my package on ppa and i don't receive email
[10:39] <ignorante> i've used dch for put into changelog my email
[10:39] <ignorante> debuild -S for sign my source
[10:39] <ignorante> everythink seem to work
[10:40] <ignorante> my custom backport .deb was installed on my system
[10:40] <ignorante> but i can't share my backport on ppa with the world!
[10:40] <ignorante> some ideas?
[10:40] <noodles775> ignorante: If you've signed your package with an associated LP key (with the same email), as explained here https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors , then it is likely that the ftp server has an issue.
[10:40] <bigjools> ignorante: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+faq/227
[10:40]  * noodles775 looks
[10:41] <ignorante> noodles775:  i have read it before come here :)
[10:41] <ignorante> i use bzr branch
[10:41] <ignorante> my email work
[10:41] <noodles775> Yep, checking the logs now...
[10:42] <ignorante> what log?
[10:42] <noodles775> internal logs to see the state of the ftp server (we've had some problems with it lately).
[10:43] <ignorante> i wait you :(
[10:43] <ignorante> i don't understand the problem
[10:44] <noodles775> ignorante: There is a problem with the ftp server that we are experiencing (bug 414482).
[10:44] <noodles775> losa: could you please restart poppy please.
[10:45] <ignorante> 1) download the src from maverick rep (apt-get source) 2) change the changelog (dch -i) 3) debuild -S 4) dput  ----> it true?
[10:45] <ignorante> i follow launchpad guide
[10:48] <ignorante> i need to dput it again?
[10:48] <noodles775> ignorante: ok, try uploading again now... you should receive an email this time :)
[10:49] <ignorante> Package has already been uploaded to ppa on ppa.launchpad.net
[10:49] <ignorante> Nothing more to do for transmission_1.93-2ubuntu3_source.changes
[10:49] <ignorante> how can i upload again the same package?
[10:49] <mthaddon> noodles775: could you elaborate a little - we're not getting any alerts about it
[10:50] <noodles775> ignorante: please use the --force option.
[10:50] <ignorante> thanks!!
[10:50] <ignorante> how many time usually i need to wait before check if it work correctly?
[10:50] <noodles775> mthaddon: the server doesn't die, it keeps running, but raises an exception every time. Is it possible to update the alert?
[10:51] <noodles775> ignorante: 10mins should be fine.
[10:51] <ignorante> thanks
[10:51] <mthaddon> noodles775: is there a bug about it?
[10:52] <noodles775> mthaddon: bug 414482 is the bug for poppy, do you want me to create a separate bug/rt for updating the alert?
[10:53] <mthaddon> noodles775: this bug is about the daemon dying, but that doesn't seem to be what you're describing
[10:54] <noodles775> mthaddon: right, there are two different types of tracebacks on that bug, I'll update it.
[10:55] <mthaddon> noodles775: I don't really see how we could update the alert - surely it'd be better to have the daemon quit if it's failing?
[10:56] <noodles775> mthaddon: yes, I'm not sure what has changed that it now continues... but I'll look into it and update it.
[10:57] <mthaddon> noodles775: please raise the priority on the bug as well since it's essentially turned this into a service that we can't effectively check
[10:57] <noodles775> ack
[10:58] <wgrant> There are two situations. Sometimes it crashes, sometimes it just does that client hook thingy. It has done both for as long as I can remember.
[10:58] <mthaddon> well either way, that's a problem
[10:58] <wgrant> Definitely.
[10:58] <noodles775> Yep (and hi wgrant).
[10:58] <mthaddon> noodles775: this is on germanium?
[10:58] <noodles775> mthaddon: yes.
[10:59] <mthaddon> ok, restarted
[10:59] <wgrant> Morning noodles775.
[11:00] <noodles775> mthaddon: oh, I assumed from the log (after a few successful processing completes, that you already had :/ This really needs to be looked into.
[11:00] <noodles775> Thanks.
[11:00] <intellectronica> wgrant: shall i test and land your approved branches?
[11:02] <wgrant> intellectronica: Ah, yes, thanks for the reviews! Might as well start attempting to land them now... it'll take four tries each.
[11:02] <intellectronica> heh
[11:07] <noodles775> mthaddon: sorry, I should have checked the process-upload logs first, it looks like ignorante's package was uploaded fine, but an exception was generated while verifying the signature. (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/434851/ )
[11:08] <noodles775> So the poppy exception was a red-herring.
[11:08]  * noodles775 updates the bug.
[11:11] <ignorante> noodles775: what say your log now, about my package?
[11:13] <noodles775> ignorante: it says that an exception was raised while checking the signature (for transmission_1.93-2ubuntu3_source.changes), I can't yet see what the exception was, but will let you know.
[11:16] <noodles775> mthaddon: the log is showing an OOPS being created, there are no oopses recorded for 2010-05-17 yet (well, that are synced)... do the oopses need to be synced manually? (this is for http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/434851/)
[11:17] <mthaddon> noodles775: yes, they do - will sync now
[11:17] <noodles775> Thanks mthaddon
[11:29] <ignorante> but it's my fault?
[11:29] <ignorante> i need to fix somethink?
[11:30] <bigjools> ignorante: try re-uploading
[11:30] <ignorante> again?
[11:30] <ignorante> with "--force"?
[11:30] <bigjools> yes
[11:32] <ignorante> http://paste.ubuntu.com/434863/
[11:33] <ignorante> ok?
[11:35] <noodles775> bigjools, ignorante: afaics, there is an exception when the signature of the package is verified... the oops is now available, and ignorante it looks like your key has expired?
[11:35] <noodles775> We should be emailing that out... Creating bug now.
[11:35] <bigjools> heh
[11:35] <ignorante> i use the same key for upload my bzr branch
[11:35] <ignorante> it isn't expired..
[11:37] <noodles775> here's the error that we're seeing: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/434865/
[11:37] <wgrant> ignorante: You would use an SSH key for uploading bzr branches.
[11:37] <wgrant> PPA uploads use OpenPGP keys.
[11:38] <wgrant> They are not the same.
[11:38] <ignorante> it's true sorry
[11:38] <ignorante> but i check now my key
[11:39] <ignorante> seem to be good
[11:40] <ignorante> will expire in july
[11:41] <ignorante> what can i do now?
[11:41] <noodles775> ignorante: what is your Launchpad username?
[11:41] <wgrant> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD0E5ABE0C546D661E9404EBB7D1270F7EE85F340&op=index
[11:41] <ignorante> cento-autistici
[11:41] <wgrant> Your key expired six months ago.
[11:41] <wgrant> If you've updated the expiry date, you perhaps forgot to push it to keyserver.ubuntu.com.
[11:42] <noodles775> Thanks wgrant.
[11:42] <ignorante> omg
[11:44] <ignorante> ok, upload new key done
[11:44] <ignorante> try to re-send my .changes ?
[11:46] <ignorante> wgrant: why i don't receive nothing about this problem? for example an email, somethink...
[11:46] <noodles775> assuming you've re-signed them, sure.
[11:46] <wgrant> Doesn't look updated to me, but it might not have synced yet.
[11:46] <wgrant> ignorante: It can't authenticate the email, so it doesn't know who you are.
[11:46] <wgrant> Er, changes file, not email.
[11:47] <ignorante> i upload it again, can you check now if was an exception again?
[11:53] <ignorante> it work
[11:53] <ignorante> great :D
[11:53] <noodles775> Great.
[11:53] <ignorante> thanks a lot!
[11:54] <ignorante> does exist some way to check last maverick packages upgrade?
[11:54] <ignorante> http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/ don't work
[11:55] <noodles775> ignorante: do you mean something like this: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission
[11:56] <ignorante> no
[11:56] <ignorante> your link is for a specific package
[11:56] <ignorante> i want check if "some new packages" exist on maverick repository
[11:57] <popey> ignorante: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/maverick-changes/
[11:57] <ignorante> great
[11:57] <ignorante> but why my last link don't work?
[12:03] <ignorante> but exist some way to know how many people use my ppa?
[12:05] <jpds> ignorante: That's being implemented: bug #139855
[12:10] <ignorante> very last question :) i have a trunk branch bzr on launchpad. It's possible to close it for public? My code is under develop, i need bzr to share my work with other develop (my friend) but now the code not work. I wont a private branch.. if it's possible
[12:11] <ignorante> .. or brach trunk is only public?
[12:13] <maxb> Launchpad provides free services for open projects.
[12:13] <maxb> Private branches are available to commercial subscription projects
[12:14] <ignorante> ok
[13:07] <soren> Are imports from github being blocked or something?
[13:07] <soren> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~soren/filecache/trunk
[13:08] <soren> Accessing the url it mentions in the log (http://github.com/rconradharris/filecache.git/info/refs) works just fine for me locally.
[13:41] <james_w> gina hasn't pulled in the changes for https://edge.launchpad.net/debian/+source/dpkg-cross/+publishinghistory
[13:41] <james_w> didn't it pick up changes made while it was down?
[13:57] <lag> Hello #launchpad
[13:58] <kfogel> VoltageX, Laney: thank you.
[13:59] <lag> Would it be possible to take someone else's Launchpad ID? The one I want was opened in 2006 and it has not been used since.
[14:08] <kfogel> lag: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/323
[14:36] <lag> kfogel: Thank you
[14:37] <kfogel> lag: np
[16:02] <shtylman> I am trying to request a vcs import of Qt (uses git) but entering a "project" name of "Qt" says invalid value... yet the project does exist on launchpad... ideas?
[16:11] <james_w> losas: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/106006 has bumped in importance now that LP is sending merge request mail via teams. Ubuntu developers will start complaining about the mail load, so could we get it fixed please?
[16:47] <stas> hi everyone, I got some problems adding a subteam to another team, I keep getting  OOPS-1598B2068
[16:48] <stas> that page is protected btw
[16:57] <Ursinha> stas, this seems to be bug 576388
[16:59] <stas> Ursinha: when the fix will be rolled on edge.? or its status is still unknown
[16:59] <Ursinha> stas, it's triaged as low, don't know if something will be done anytime soon
[16:59] <Ursinha> sinzui, ^
[17:00] <stas> too bad, how do I propose my project as subproject than? :)
[17:01] <sinzui> Ursinha, I know about. Since this has happen a few times in a few years. It is still low
[17:02] <sinzui> In either case, the team/person is already in the correct state, the team just needs to accept the invitation
[17:03] <shtylman> is it possible to vcs import particular git branches?
[17:33] <shtylman> james_w: does launchpad vcs import support git branches that are not master?
[17:34] <stas> Ursinha: thanks.
[17:35] <Ursinha> stas, no problem
[17:35] <james_w> shtylman: not currently
[17:35] <james_w> it's close to being available I believe
[17:35] <james_w> jelmer_: ^ ?
[17:35] <shtylman> gotcha
[17:36] <shtylman> it will deff be something needed for projects that branch off at release
[17:44] <ia> hello. Could anyone provide me, please, link to detailed step-by-step guide with examples about how to attach in project page at launchpad files (tarballs) for download? (I mean something like this - https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/FileDownloads , but a bit more detailed)
[17:54] <jelmer_> james_w, shtylman: not at the moment, but we're close to being able to support that
[17:54] <jelmer_> All of the ground work is there, but the UI bit is still missing. I hope to land that in the next month or so.
[18:58] <kfogel> MrKanister: do you have a sec to help me with a quick wiki experiment?
[19:00] <kfogel> ereslibre: can you help me with a quick wiki experiment?
[19:00] <ereslibre> kfogel: hehe, I have no time right now, but tell me, I can try
[19:00] <kfogel> ereslibre: I need to know if an "Edit" button shows up for you on help.launchpad.net and dev.launchpad.net when you're logged in.
[19:00] <ereslibre> sure
[19:00] <kfogel> ereslibre: thank you
[19:01] <kfogel> ereslibre: if there _is_ an edit button, and you have time to try editing, that would be great (we would expect edit to fail, because of a new spam-prevention measure that I'm about to mail the list about).
[19:01]  * ereslibre has slow internet... *sigh* waiting for login
[19:02] <kfogel> ereslibre: \o/ network turnarounds yay
[19:03] <ereslibre> kfogel: strange stuff happens here
[19:03] <ereslibre> kfogel: I have logged in and I get where my username is supposed to appear this: "ereslibre-gmail-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount "
[19:04] <kfogel> ereslibre: hmmmm, whoa.  And normally your launchpad account looks fine?  Let me check...
[19:05] <ereslibre> kfogel: it got me to openid login, on launchpad I always login with my regular username
[19:05] <kfogel> ereslibre: okay, at launchpad.net/~ereslibre everything looks fine.  So this must be specific to the wiki.
[19:05] <MrKanister> kfogel: I have logge in, but I can not see an "edit" button
[19:05] <MrKanister> I was at heko.launchpad.net
[19:05] <kfogel> MrKanister: thank you (logged in on the wiki, right?)
[19:05] <MrKanister> s/heko/help
[19:05] <kfogel> ereslibre: this username weirdness might be related to what we did for the spam prevention, not sure.  You do/don't see an Edit button on the wiki?
[19:06] <ereslibre> kfogel: nope
[19:06] <kfogel> MrKanister: you're not seeing the username weirdness that ereslibre is seeing, right?
[19:06] <MrKanister> kfogel: no, my username shows up top left as expected
[19:06] <kfogel> ereslibre: hunh.  So I don't know what's up with yours.  If you want to send a screenshot to karl.fogel {AT} canonical.com, I'd be happy to forward this along to our admins and try to figure out what's happening.
[19:07] <MrKanister> kfogel: By "wiki", do you mean wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[19:08] <kfogel> MrKanister: sorry, no, I mean https://dev.launchpad.net/ and https://help.launchpad.net/, should have made that clear.
[19:08] <ereslibre> kfogel: don't worry. launchpad isn't my work place, I just peek around sometimes. However, my login on launchpad itself is right, so I have no worries on that ;) thank you very much ;)
[19:08] <kfogel> ereslibre: ok, np then
[19:09] <MrKanister> kfogel: ok, I checked with dev.launchpad.net, too, and here I see an edit button
[19:09] <kfogel> MrKanister: hmm.  And what happens if you try to actually make an edit?
[19:09] <MrKanister> kfogel: That seems to work fine
[19:10] <MrKanister> kfogel: see https://dev.launchpad.net/FrontPage: it read now "launchpad is (test) ..."
[19:10] <kfogel> MrKanister: whups -- you were able to edit on dev.l.n, but not on help.l.n, even though you were logged in on both?  And only the former even showed an edit button?
[19:10] <kfogel> MrKanister: wow.  Okay.  I'll go ahead and revert that change.
[19:10] <MrKanister> kfogel: Yes. help: no edit button; dev: edit button + able to make changes
[19:12] <kfogel> hey MrKanister, can you try the same thing on this page: https://dev.launchpad.net/FixBugs
[19:12] <kfogel> (that page doesn't have certain #pragma access controls that the front page has, so it's a better test)
[19:13] <MrKanister> kfogel: I see an "edit" button and have succesfully made the "test" change
[19:14] <kfogel> MrKanister: thank you.  And one (last) test: in the help wiki, where you so far have *not* seen an Edit button, what happens at a sub-page like https://help.launchpad.net/API/Uses
[19:14] <kfogel> ?
[19:15] <MrKanister> kfogel: btw: the drop down list named "more actions" is aligned under "home | page info" and not next to "edit"
[19:16] <MrKanister> kfogel: ok, no edit button at subpages
[19:16] <kfogel> MrKanister: that's weird -- for now I'm not going to worry about it, because there are enough issues flying around with the access control already, but noted.
[19:16] <kfogel> MrKanister: talking about the button placement, that is.
[19:16] <MrKanister> the button placement seems to be only a problem, when you can see an "edit" button
[19:16] <kfogel> MrKanister: okay, so summary is: on help.launchpad.net, you get no Edit button on front page nor sub-page.  On dev.launchpad.net, you get Edit button both types of places *and* you can actually edit too.
[19:17] <MrKanister> kfogel: That is correct
[19:17] <kfogel> MrKanister: thank you.
[19:17] <MrKanister> kfogel: no problem
[19:40] <rzr> hi
[19:41]  * rzr needs help w/ his ppa, upload work, but it stuck there
[19:41] <rzr> is this related to my key ? i shifted the experation date
[19:41] <rzr> it used to work for ages
[19:57] <maxb> explain "stuck"
[19:58] <shtylman> when is building from branches gonna go live... I can't wait !! :)
[20:16] <rzr> maxb: well nothing seems to happend (no mail no web), upload did not complain
[20:17] <maxb> that almost always means there was a problem validating your signature, and without a valid signature, launchpad doesn't know who made the uploade
[20:56] <rzr> maxb: how can i check ?
[20:57] <maxb> you can check that your signature validates locally, or otherwise you'll need to get someone who can look at the logs to investigte
[20:58] <rzr> maxb: how to check locally ?
[21:00] <maxb> gpg --verify whatever_999_source.changes
[21:00] <rzr> debsig-verify - Debian Package Signature Verification Tool
[21:00] <rzr> ok
[21:00] <rzr> Good signature
[21:01] <rzr> seems that is caused by the expiration date
[21:13] <geser> rzr: when looking at your key, I see that the ElGamal subkey expires in 2014 now, but all your uid expired in April (none has currently a valid self-signature)
[21:18] <soren> Is there anything I can do to help get this import to work: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~soren/filecache/trunk ?
[21:20] <soren> Oh, hang on..
[21:20]  * soren pretends to scratch beard (which is not there)
[21:22] <soren> Huzzah!
[21:30] <soren> bug 581933, for those following at home.
[21:31] <rzr> geser: ok that's what i was fearing
[21:58] <jamalta> in #launchpad-dev