[00:46] <[mike]> Greetings, I'm looking for some assistance with 'free ATI graphics' card.  I seem to be getting the Quirk described here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Quirks  Described in ATI AGP Mode Quirk.  I'm really unsure how to proceed due xorg.conf file being absent in 9.10+ IIRC.
[00:52] <kermiac> hi [mike], what symptom are you seeing & have you tried using the vesa or fglrx driver to see if the issue goes away?
[00:55] <[mike]> Sorry, I should have framed up a little better.  Both are installed by default.  I've tried booting with both, and just the free and i get the kernel panic in both instances.  My card is a 9200SE NV280 and the fglrx seems to not associate itself with my card.  I am, however, willing to give it a shot.
[01:01] <kermiac> [mike]: so, are you saying the ATI 9200SE & the NVIDIA NV280 both give you kernel panic?
[01:04] <[mike]> ls-pci gives:  04:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] [1002:5964] (rev 01)
[01:04] <[mike]> RV280, sorry.
[01:04] <kermiac> [mike]: ah, ok.. that make more sense :)
[01:06] <[mike]> In the log viewer, would there be a specific place that would indicate what type of error I received?  In sum, whenever x starts at the initial login screen, it just freezes.  Using onboard graphics, no freeze.
[01:07] <Appl6> [mike]: Most IRC clients notify you if a message contains your handle in it.  It'd be considerate if you placed "kermiac" before your messages to him so he doesn't have to keep checking this channel.
[01:10] <kermiac> [mike]: possible /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:10] <kermiac> thanks Appl6 :)
[01:23] <[mike]> kermiac I cant make heads or tails about any of whats listed there.  I'm really gathering from what ive read.  Do you think I should try the other driver and just see what happens as a starting point?
[01:24] <[mike]> "kermiac" IRC seems to be epic fail for me too.
[01:25] <kermiac> [mike]: yes, that would be a good starting point. if it works with the vesa or fglrx driver that should confirm that it is this issue
[01:26] <kermiac> [mike]: kermiac is fine, the quotes aren't needed :) If you include my nick it highlights the message & outputs a notification so that I can see you are talking to me :)
[01:27] <Appl6> [mike]: You could try:   grep '(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log    and pastebin the output.
[01:29] <[mike]> kermiac ok ty, first time with IRC ever.
[01:30] <kermiac> no probs [mike] :)
[01:30] <[mike]> Appl6 	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[01:30] <[mike]> (EE) intel(0): Couldn't create pixmap for fbcon
[06:06] <[mike]> Anyone available for assistance with kms https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting
[07:35] <neurohack222> hey all, how goes?  just installed ubuntu the other day, my first linux distro, and set up an ampache server - am loving it, works beautifully w/ my android phone..  am curious about setting up webhosting, email server, things like that.. was wondering if anyone could recommend any good websites for learning about how to do these things...
[07:40] <muzha> heyya neurohack222
[07:40] <muzha> neurohack222, do you mean apache?
[07:40] <muzha> Wait, nvmd :)
[07:40] <muzha> neurohack222, is the server outward facing?
[07:41] <neurohack222> well, i have ampache, it's a music media streaming thing
[07:41] <neurohack222> and it has a client for android phones, so i can access all my music @ home over 3g
[07:41] <neurohack222> is pretty rad
[07:42] <muzha> I just read op on it neurohack222, it looks ill
[07:42] <muzha> neurohack222, so, is the server outward facing?
[07:43] <neurohack222> honestly don't know what you're asking, am pretty inexperienced w/ it all
[07:43] <muzha> neurohack222, where is the server?
[07:44] <neurohack222> on my pc
[07:44] <muzha> neurohack222, let me rephrase -- how do you get to the server from your phone? by IP?
[07:44] <neurohack222> once installed, you just make a catalog for your music, it indexes, and then you access it through a phone client called amdroid
[07:44] <neurohack222> yes, IP address name/password
[07:45] <neurohack222> you can set up multiple accounts and what not
[07:45] <muzha> neurohack222, You won't be able to set up a mailserver without a FQDN ( Fully Qualified Domain Name ), and if have one of those puppies, it's worthwhile to get real hosting ( not your home line )
[07:45] <muzha> neurohack222, but webserver -- that's easy
[07:45] <muzha> neurohack222, just 'sudo apt-get install apache2'
[07:46] <muzha> neurohack222, if you want stuff like PHP and MySQL you can install mysql-server and php5 ( and php5-mysql, and all that other jazz )
[07:46] <neurohack222> some of those were set up w/ ampache
[07:46] <muzha> neurohack222, then you place the files in /var/www/
[07:46] <muzha> neurohack222, the config file ( the old httpd.conf ) is in /etc/apache/sites-enabled/*
[07:48] <muzha> neurohack222, Now -- questions. I know you got 'em. Let 'em rip
[07:48] <neurohack222> am moving to portland or soon and am hoping to live in a neighborhood w/ verizon fios and 25mbps u/l... what would be the advantage of real hosting?
[07:49] <neurohack222> was thinking of getting something quiet and energy efficient comparable to a mac mini and some sort of external storage like a drobo
[07:49] <muzha> neurohack222, outsourcing liability for uptime and physical security -- also if you have FIOS, you have a dynamic IP ( it will change after your lease is up for the IP -- typically a few weeks or so )
[07:50] <muzha> neurohack222, if you are serious about running a server you should have it hosted outside your house
[07:50] <muzha> if not, don't worry about that bill
[07:51] <muzha> but you won't be able to get a webserver working easily though neurohack222
[07:52] <neurohack222> a lot to learn heh
[07:52] <muzha> neurohack222, hahaha yup. I started off on my home line, you learn a lot like that
[07:52] <muzha> neurohack222, take it slow. This is nothing to rush ;)
[07:54] <muzha> neurohack222, brb, gotta meditate for a hot minute, leave messages, I'll get right back to ya
[08:09] <neurohack222> i installed a lot of dependecies for Ampache,     *
[08:09] <neurohack222>       ampache-mpm-prefork
[08:09] <neurohack222>     *
[08:09] <neurohack222>       debconf (>=0.5) or debconf-2.0
[08:09] <neurohack222>     *
[08:09] <neurohack222>       dpatch (3.3.3.5-dfsg1 only)
[08:09] <neurohack222>     *
[08:09] <neurohack222>       po-debconf
[08:09] <neurohack222>     *
[08:09] <neurohack222>       php5
[08:09] <neurohack222>     *
[08:09] <neurohack222>       php5-mysql
[08:09] <neurohack222>     *
[08:09] <neurohack222>       ttf-freefont (3.3.3.5-dfsg1 only)
[08:10] <neurohack222>     *
[08:10] <neurohack222>       libjs-prototype
[08:10] <neurohack222>     *
[08:10] <neurohack222>       libphp-snoopy
[08:10] <neurohack222> It is also recommended that you install these additional packages if not already installed:
[08:10] <neurohack222>     *
[08:10] <neurohack222>       mysql-server = if you don't already have one installed.
[08:10] <neurohack222>     *
[08:10] <neurohack222>       php5-cli = Command line tools for php5.
[08:10] <neurohack222>     *
[08:10] <neurohack222>       php5-gd = Image library for php5.
[08:10] <neurohack222>     *
[08:10] <neurohack222>       phpmyadmin = administration suite for MySQL-server written in php.
[08:10] <neurohack222>     *
[08:10] <neurohack222>       eyeD3 = ID3 tag editor written in python (it can mass tag read the man)  -  seems some of these are also used w/ apache
[08:10] <neurohack222> woah, didnt expect it to print out like that, heh, sorry
[08:10] <PD187> I was about to say that next time you should
[08:10] <PD187> probably make sure that
[08:10] <PD187> it doesn't do that.
[08:11] <neurohack222> gotcha
[08:11] <PD187> at least there's no spam protection/flood prevention
[08:11] <PD187> one channel that I'm in, the bot would've kicked you, set the channel +m and +i for 5 minutes for the flooding heh
[08:13] <neurohack222> i don't know much about irc, but i'll assume that's not a good thing.
[08:14] <PD187> it's not.  It moderated (+m) the channel so that you need voice to speak and +i is invite which only ops can do
[08:15] <PD187> the best one was the time that a net split caused one of the ops to be banned for about an hour and he couldn't get back in for maybe 2 because of the +i
[08:15] <muzha> hey PD187
[08:15] <muzha> neurohack222, next time, just use pastebin
[08:15] <PD187> hello muzha
[08:15] <muzha> PD187, how's tricks?
[08:15] <PD187> tricks?
[08:15] <PD187> I do believe you have me confused with someone else?
[08:15] <muzha> PD187, Sorry. American slang
[08:15] <muzha> PD187, how are things?
[08:16] <PD187> not any slang I've heard :P
[08:16] <PD187> if I have heard of "tricks", it's not a positive thing...
[08:16] <paultag_> PD187, well the root of the word is from hookers -- they turn "tricks"
[08:16] <PD187> things are going I suppose.  Still alive so that's good.
[08:16] <paultag_> PD187, so they started saying "How are the tricks" or "How's tricks"
[08:16] <paultag_> PD187, now it's just kinda common
[08:16] <neurohack222> http://pastebin.org/243292  same thing i just pasted, just testing it out
[08:16] <paultag_> PD187, Aye
[08:16] <PD187> guess I need to get out more.
[08:16] <paultag_> PD187, you and me both :
[08:16] <PD187> crazy kids and their slang.
[08:16] <paultag_> :/ *
[08:17] <paultag_> :P
[08:17] <paultag_> looks good neurohack222 :)
[08:17] <Akos> good morning team
[08:17] <paultag_> morning Akos
[08:17] <paultag_> Oh shoot, my other computer went down
[08:18] <paultag_> see neurohack222, that's why you need a dedicated server. Computers don't just shut off in a datacenter :/
[08:18] <paultag> PD187, you don't have voice, but I see you in here all the time. I could have sworn you were on the team
[08:18] <PD187> nope
[08:19] <PD187> I idle in here and I don't think it'd be right for me to be on an Ubuntu team since I moved away from it before 10.04
[08:19] <paultag> no worries there PD187 :)
[08:19] <neurohack222> well, as for now the webhosting is mostly just gonna be a place for me to organize my thoughts, nothing i couldn't live without.
[08:20] <paultag> neurohack222, still annoying when it goes down
[08:20] <paultag> PD187, so what are you running now?
[08:20] <PD187> Mint 8
[08:20] <paultag> kickass. How do you like it PD187?
[08:20] <paultag> P.S. that counts as Ubuntu in my mind
[08:20] <PD187> It's enjoyable
[08:20] <neurohack222> well, i guess the upside is i wouldn't have to deal w/ a noisy box like my current pc running 24/7 lol
[08:20] <PD187> yeah I know it's basically the same thing
[08:20] <paultag> neurohack222, haha tell me about it
[08:21] <PD187> Mint 9 should be out soon enough too
[08:21] <paultag> PD187, I love mint. Good switch
[08:21] <paultag> At least it's not Fedora ;)
[08:21] <Akos> haha
[08:21] <Akos> I'd quote that :P
[08:21] <paultag> haha, go for it ;)
[08:21] <PD187> I may redo the whole system when 9 comes out
[08:22] <paultag> PD187, I love doing that
[08:22] <PD187> I gave too much space to / when I divided it up
[08:22] <paultag> PD187, nothing beats a fresh install and a nice partition layout
[08:22] <PD187> well they tell you to do a fresh install anyways
[08:22] <paultag> I always do
[08:23] <paultag> I have lost too many systems to apt-get's dist upgrade stuff
[08:23] <paultag> it used to be _bad_
[08:23] <PD187> well I'm probably going to be trying to figure out how much I should give /root since apparently 40GB is too much
[08:23] <paultag> PD187, is it one distro?
[08:23] <PD187> yeah
[08:23] <paultag> ( on the HD )
[08:24] <PD187> it's on one of my "smaller" SATA drives (400GB)
[08:24] <Akos> I'll probably do the same this week, fresh install, getting back the computer parts from the repair shop \o/
[08:24] <paultag> PD187, go for 5-8 GB against /root, 20 for /usr, and the rest for /home :)
[08:24] <paultag> sorry, not /root
[08:24] <paultag> the /
[08:24] <paultag> the root :P
[08:24] <paultag> Akos, nice :)
[08:25] <PD187> I still have to RMA 2 hard drives to Seagate and a 3rd to WD
[08:25] <paultag> PD187, fucking a! Me too!
[08:25] <paultag> PD187, I have over 2 TB of broken drives I have been meaning to RMA
[08:25] <PD187> shame there's no "I send you 1.4TB of hdds and you send me a 1TB upgrade" option
[08:25] <paultag> PD187, fucking right!
[08:25] <PD187> oh I have more than that
[08:25] <PD187> I have a 500GB WD that I got rather angry with
[08:25] <paultag> PD187, My two in the box that were good are starting to fail. I'm starting to think that my MoBo is shot too
[08:25] <PD187> was out of warranty anyways (well it was in an external at one point)
[08:26] <paultag> aye
[08:26] <PD187> so it met a demise with a hammer
[08:26] <paultag> Ha!
[08:26] <PD187> I did enjoy running one of my hdds in a freezer recently
[08:26] <paultag> PD187, I always take them apart and unscrew the platter from the motor and pull the read arms out
[08:26] <PD187> yeah I didn't have the right screw driver
[08:26] <paultag> PD187, then run it up to speed and pull the drive body out
[08:26] <paultag> PD187, those things fucking fly
[08:27] <paultag> PD187, how did the freezer run go?
[08:27] <PD187> awesome
[08:27] <paultag> PD187, if it gets below spec it will condense internally
[08:27] <PD187> I think there was about 15 things that I couldn't copy off it
[08:27] <paultag> legit
[08:27] <PD187> well I had a plan
[08:27] <PD187> and lots of electrical tape to seal it
[08:27] <paultag> aaaahahaha
[08:27] <paultag> PD187, there is still moisture inside, so still, don't do it to the main HDDs ;)
[08:28] <PD187> I had the SATA cable (and power) running to the hdd in an anti-static bag (sealed with tape), inside another plastic bag (sealed with tape), inside another plastic bag (sealed with tape) and it was taped to the side of the freezer because the 36" SATA cable wasn't long enough otherwise
[08:28] <paultag> hahaha, well that's one way to do it :)
[08:29] <paultag> that will still let water condense on the inside
[08:29] <PD187> yeah now I have to do it with about 3-4 other hard drives
[08:29] <paultag> but still. well done
[08:29] <PD187> at this point, I don't care about condensation.  I cared about the files.
[08:29] <paultag> PD187, were they failing?
[08:29] <PD187> yep
[08:30] <PD187> it decided to fail right when I was backing up to go back to XP on my desktop
[08:30] <paultag> PD187, oh, in that case. Nice!
[08:30] <PD187> hopefully any condensation isn't there when seagate gets them
[08:31] <paultag> PD187, it won't matter, nothing was voided
[08:31] <paultag> PD187, it will record the low temp via SMART, but I don't think they will bitch _that_ much
[08:31] <PD187> yeah but it seems like they have a long list of "don't do this or it's void"
[08:31] <PD187> I don't know if I voided it already by writing on it in sharpie
[08:31] <paultag> PD187, apt-get smartmontools and do a -l scan on it
[08:31] <paultag> Ha!
[08:31] <paultag> PD187, should be able to read how low it thought it was
[08:32] <PD187> I don't think it'd be able to even get that far.
[08:32] <paultag> that bad, eh?
[08:32] <PD187> they're kind of pining for the fjords
[08:32] <paultag> the scan takes like an hour or two to run
[08:32] <paultag> yeah, not gana happen
[08:33] <PD187> the sad part is I have a 3rd Seagate drive that has a few bad sectors (if disk utility is to be believed) but I don't think I can actually RMA it because it's not quite dead.
[08:33] <paultag> PD187, run it on top of your PSU
[08:34] <paultag> PD187, get it above 58 degrees or so
[08:34] <PD187> eh I'd rather not
[08:34] <paultag> PD187, and run it until it starts returning bad data
[08:34] <PD187> yeah about that...
[08:34] <paultag> ( heat de-magnitizes the platter )
[08:34] <PD187> that freezer drive I was talking about
[08:34] <PD187> I backed it up on the slightly bad sectored HDD that's not quite dead.
[08:35] <paultag> Ahhhhhh
[08:35] <paultag> well that sucks ass
[08:35] <PD187> and you'd think that I would have the space to back up the ~500GB worth of stuff elsewhere but they're all either mostly full or dying :(
[08:35] <paultag> Awww
[08:36] <paultag> PD187, just start RMAing them one at a time and build up the system disk
[08:36] <paultag> BRB guise. I need to snag some food. 3:36 AM snack time.
[08:36] <PD187> I would much rather spend the money once to RMA them all then do them individually.
[08:37] <PD187> besides I kind of don't have the SATA ports for 3-4 new SATA drives and a new IDE drive
[08:41] <paultag> My goal is to reach sdf by the end of this summer
[08:41] <PD187> sdf as in the device?
[08:41] <paultag> yessir
[08:41] <PD187> in which case been there done that :P
[08:41] <paultag> sda, sdb, sdc, sdd, sde, sdf
[08:41] <paultag> I have too PD187, but never with just internal drives
[08:42] <PD187> if I switched my desktop over to linux it'd be up to uh
[08:42] <paultag> do it :P
[08:42] <PD187> sdk
[08:42] <paultag> I wonder what happens after z
[08:42] <PD187> with sdl being RMAed to Seagate
[08:42] <paultag> think it goes sdza ?
[08:42] <PD187> yeah I think so
[08:42] <PD187> but my desktop is staying XP for now
[08:42] <PD187> or maybe sdaa?
[08:42] <paultag> eww, nonfree filth :(
[08:43] <paultag> PD187, Humm, actually that makes more logical sense
[08:43] <PD187> damn video games...
[08:43] <PD187> well I imagine it'd go sdaa-sdzz
[08:43] <paultag> aye
[08:43] <PD187> so it'd hit yours eventually...
[08:43] <paultag> wayyy far down
[08:44] <paultag> 26*26+1 I think
[08:45] <paultag> wait, no
[08:45] <paultag> OK. I can't do math anymore. That means I am officially too tired to function
[08:45] <paultag> I bid you adieu PD187, Akos, neurohack222 :)
[08:46] <Akos> au reviour paultag
[08:46] <Akos> *revour
[08:46] <Akos> or something similar :P
[08:46] <paultag> :)
[08:46] <Akos> bonne nuit (at least i know that one)
[08:47] <Akos> hey shredder12 (:
[08:47] <PD187> bye paultag
[09:58] <ZachK_> hmmm
[09:58] <ZachK_> nobody up?
[10:00] <PD187> perhaps they're watching Bullshit.
[10:03] <ZachK_> hey phillw
[10:10] <ZachK_> i'm out guys..bed time fo me
[12:05] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[12:22] <phillw> hi duanedesign
[13:13] <latenite> Hi folks, I copied my ~/.evolution directory from my old laptop to my new laptop. Still, when I start evolution it aks me to set up a new accout. Waht i want is: my old alreaddy setup account
[13:19] <duanedesign> hello latenite
[13:19] <latenite> duanedesign, hi. did I make my problem clear?
[13:19] <latenite> i know its hard to discribe
[13:22] <duanedesign> latenite: yeah, there are a couple of other folders you might want as well
[13:23] <duanedesign> ~/.gconf/apps/evolution/
[13:23] <duanedesign> ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution
[13:25] <latenite> duanedesign, oh ok. Funny that it is so "spread" over the ~ and not all in one folder. well it works now.
[13:25] <latenite> thank you very much
[13:26] <duanedesign> ok great!
[19:08] <eddy> hi all, i have a problem since i installed Lucid 10.04(Kubuntu) in dual-boot with Windows XP. i lost my internet connection(ADSL) in Windows but i still have it in Lucid. i've tried everything i know and i search a lot but i haven't find the way to solve this
[19:08] <eddy> en gros, je n'ai plus d'internet sur Windows depuis que j'ai installer Lucid
[19:09] <eddy> mais sur Licid tous fonctionne bien
[19:09] <eddy> *lucid
[19:11] <eddy> so, anyone can help me?
[19:14] <shredder12> eddy, what error do you get while configuring/connecting ADSL on windows?
[19:18] <eddy> well everything was fine before i installed Lucid in dual boot with Windows XP
[19:18] <eddy> it,s after i installed it i lost my connection in Windows
[19:20] <eddy> in Windows, i can see the icon of the network and it says i have a limited or inexistant connection
[19:21] <eddy> when i try to repair it it's telling me windows was not able to renew the ip
[19:24] <eddy> but as you can see, on Kubuntu Lucid i have my ADSL working correctly
[19:28] <eddy> any ideas about how to solve this?
[20:06] <Marben79> Just bought an Asus g60.. was wondering if anyone knows any major issues with it and Ubuntu. I had an Acer before this and never could get webcam to work
[20:10] <Marben79> hmmm using my phone maybe is not working right on irc chat
[21:24] <bodhi_zazen> compiledkernel: poke
[21:25] <ZachK_> bodhi_zazen: compiledkernel is never around any more
[21:25] <compiledkernel> ZachK_: be quiet.
[21:26] <ZachK_> compiledkernel: HE SPEAKS!
[21:27] <compiledkernel> yes, I do, and quite often ZachK_
[21:27] <compiledkernel> just usually when you arent around, for whatever reason.
[21:27] <ZachK_> lol
[21:44] <ssierra> hi
[21:45] <ZachK_> hello ssierra
[21:45] <ssierra> hi ZachK_ I am just here testing IRQ and ubuntu 10.4
[21:46] <ZachK_> ssierra: cool
[21:46] <ZachK_> IRC u mean?
[21:46] <ssierra> yes sure ;)
[21:47] <ssierra> I have been KDE user for a long time but this time I like how gnome looks into ubuntu
[21:48] <ssierra> Just only one question maybe you can help me
[21:48] <ddecator> what's the question?
[21:48] <ssierra> I like the way kde or windows 7 organises the windows when you drop them to the edges
[21:48] <ssierra> do you know if this is possible in gnome?
[21:49] <ddecator> organize how (i haven't used either)
[21:49] <ddecator> ?
[21:49] <ssierra> I meen for example to the left edge and it is adjusted to 50% of the screen
[21:50] <ddecator> yes there is :)
[21:50] <ssierra> nice!
[21:50] <ddecator> except you have to use hotkeys (unless you hack compiz some)
[21:50] <ssierra> I couldn't finde the way
[21:50] <ddecator> but hokeys are faster anyway ;)
[21:50] <ssierra> yes sure
[21:50] <ddecator> you have to use compiz
[21:50] <ddecator> it's the Grid option
[21:50] <ssierra> I have compiz
[21:51] <ssierra> ok will see that now
[21:51] <ddecator> just go there, assign hotkeys to the different options, and there you go :)
[21:51] <ddecator> i use Super+<arrow>
[21:52] <ssierra> I do not have the grid option into compiz setting manager. do I need to install any additional compiz module?
[21:52] <ddecator> under Window Management?
[21:53] <ssierra> yes it is not there
[21:53] <ddecator> ah, is compiz-gnome installed?
[21:53] <ssierra> i think so, I will have a look
[21:54] <ssierra> yes it is installed. I have ubunto 10.4
[21:54] <ddecator> otherwise it might be under compiz-fusion-plugins*
[21:56] <ssierra> ok I will have a look
[22:02] <ssierra> that was it!!
[22:02] <ssierra> many thanks!
[22:02] <ddecator> no problem :)