[00:45] <osmosis> if I create a new  /etc/modprobe.d/file.conf   , what command to I run to have it installed ?
[00:49] <Urda> Question: Anyway in *Ubuntu 10.04 SERVER* to change
[00:49] <Urda>              the color of the terminal from white on black?
[00:57] <storrgie> if i have two interfaces, how to i make it so there will be only one gateway in the route?
[00:57] <storrgie> or i guess i mean
[00:57] <storrgie> only 1 route
[01:25]  * f1yback bbl, bathroom break
[01:31] <dominicdinada> blah how do i purge everything on the firewall and start over ?
[02:03] <dominicdinada> !samba
[02:12] <dominicdinada> how can i keep these files installed it keeps trying to remove them after i removed a crappy piece of software http://pastebin.com/zcxHkNSh
[02:14] <dominicdinada> !domain
[02:22]  * f1yback goodnight all
[04:50] <dominicdinada> !samba
[05:06] <enav> hello.... im learning about UWF...   but i got a quick question... all ports are blocked by default???
[05:22] <Urda> Hey I'm having some issues install x86 10.04 Server. It installs just fine, but after reboot I cannot get it to enter the system! GRUB 2 starts up just fine, but once it starts to load the OS everything comes to a halt
[05:23] <Urda> I see a blinking cursor, then the monitor goes dead
[05:39] <dominicdinada> god blessed
[06:28] <enav> you guys know a reason of why USE 10.04 gets a Black screen after installation some times?
[07:35] <stoned> hi
[07:35] <stoned> to install phpunit should I install aptitude install phpunit or should I use PEAR ?
[07:35] <stoned> please advise
[08:35] <lambrecht> hello anyone can help
[08:36] <lambrecht> i have a problem on karmic some sevices dont start like apache zabbix ... they are configured to start
[09:04] <MrPancake> lambrecht: Logs?
[09:04] <lambrecht> yes
[09:04] <lambrecht> what logs
[09:09] <lambrecht> http://nopaste.info/bd62e0df50
[09:09] <lambrecht> my syslog
[09:10] <lambrecht> http://nopaste.info/bd62e0df50.html
[09:14] <lambrecht> zabbix and apache2 is in rc2.d
[09:18] <lambrecht> mrpancake are you there
[09:28] <lambrecht> anyone awake ??
[09:46] <RoyK> somehow
[09:46] <lambrecht> hehe
[09:46] <lambrecht> i have a problem some services dont start at startup
[09:47] <RoyK> have you tried starting them manually and then checked the logs?
[09:48] <lambrecht> yes i started them manualy
[09:48] <RoyK> also, did they start earlier - if so, what did you change?
[09:48] <RoyK> does it work when you start them manually?
[09:48] <lambrecht> yes they started earlyer
[09:48] <lambrecht> yes it works then
[09:49] <lambrecht> http://nopaste.info/bd62e0df50.html for my syslog  but there is nothing weird i think
[09:49] <lambrecht> the services are also in /etc/rc2.d
[09:50] <lambrecht> apache2 dont start zabbix dont start webmin dont start
[09:50] <lambrecht> mysql shh bin starts
[09:50] <lambrecht> when i lokk in webmin all the services that meant to start are configured to start at statup
[09:50] <RoyK> !webmin
[09:51] <lambrecht> a ok
[09:51] <lambrecht> maybe webmin is the problem then
[09:52] <RoyK> doesn't seem very likely if they're in /etc/rc2.d
[09:52] <lambrecht> yes its verry strange
[09:52] <lambrecht> every time i have to start them manualy
[09:53] <RoyK> webmin might have messed up something, though
[09:54] <lambrecht> hmm damn
[09:54]  * RoyK uses the command line
[09:55] <lambrecht> i know hehe i dont realy use it to change things
[09:55] <lambrecht> can i uninstall it so all my setting are fine again
[09:56] <RoyK> ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*apache*
[09:56] <RoyK> what does that show?
[09:59] <lambrecht> lrwxrwxrwx root root /etc/rc2.d/s91apache2 -> ../init.d/apache2
[09:59] <RoyK> should be right
[09:59] <lambrecht> yes
[09:59] <lambrecht> verry weird
[10:00] <RoyK> try a fresh reboot and pastebin the logs again
[10:00] <lambrecht> ok
[10:02] <lambrecht> i changed that also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1393573
[10:04] <lambrecht> http://nopaste.info/774f6c6ffc.html
[10:04] <lambrecht> brb nicotine time
[10:06] <RoyK> hm. apache isn't in there at all
[10:08] <lambrecht> ni isnt i dont understand
[10:08] <lambrecht> no
[10:08] <lambrecht> and zabbix
[10:09] <lambrecht> maybe you can have a look log in to my server
[10:10] <RoyK> could try
[10:34] <RoyK> grub2 sucks hard
[10:59] <maxagaz> does someone know of any fingerprint machine that I can use with ubuntu ?
[11:35] <zoran119> hi people
[11:35] <zoran119> we have a ubuntu server at work
[11:35] <zoran119> running as a virtual machine on hyper-v
[11:36] <zoran119> and every day (a couple times a day) the clock gets 'stuck'
[11:36] <zoran119> it just loops within a 5 second period
[11:36] <zoran119> any idea why this is any how to fix it?
[11:37] <zoran119> we have other virtual machines (centos) on hyper-v and they have no time issues
[11:47] <sh1ny> have you tried with virtual flavor kernel in the ubuntu server ?
[11:48] <sh1ny> i have one such server on hyper-v ( as part of 2008 R2 ) and it works just fine
[11:49] <zoran119> sh1ny: virtual flavor kernel?
[11:49] <sh1ny> apt-get install linux-image-virtual
[11:57] <zoran119> sh1ny: cool... i'll try that
[12:00] <sh1ny> make sure you install it first, then boot with it, then remove the other kernel...also if you have an older kernel , keep it so you can failsafe to it
[12:09] <zoran119> sh1ny: why do i have to remove the other kernel?
[12:10] <sh1ny> what would you need it for ? except for taking space :P
[12:10] <sh1ny> just try how it works with the virtual one
[12:11] <sh1ny> if it works ok, remove the default one
[12:16] <gmcdonald> direct download url for 10.4 server anybody?
[12:17] <gmcdonald> ubottu: ?
[12:20] <gmcdonald> 248 nicks and no-body knows
[12:23] <cloakable> idiot
[12:29] <halvors1> I get this error in the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/434896/
[12:29] <RoyK> heh - it's like two clicks away from the frontpage :)
[12:29] <halvors1> Should i deactivate the chroot Postfix does?
[12:30] <RoyK> does postfix chroot?
[12:30]  * RoyK keeps email in a separate directory, not homedirs
[12:31] <halvors1> but i want to have them there, it is not possible?
[12:31] <RoyK> aner ikke :)
[12:32] <halvors1> Du var norsk eller er det bare Google Transelate ?
[12:32]  * RoyK er rimelig norsk
[12:33] <halvors1> Det vil si?? ;)
[12:33] <RoyK> tja, norsk
[12:34] <RoyK> men ikke "norsk" nok til å bruke dagen til å veive med flagg på Karl Johan
[12:35] <RoyK> selv med ørten generasjoner med norskhet bak seg, er ikke sånt nødvendig
[12:42] <egsome> How can i monitor temperature of CPU and HDD of my ubuntu server ?
[12:42] <sh1ny> aptitude install lm-sensors
[12:42] <sh1ny> sensors-detect
[12:43] <egsome> is it command line or GUI ?
[12:43] <sh1ny> command line
[12:43] <sh1ny> you said "server"
[12:43] <egsome> sh1ny, yeah, so i'm asking
[12:43] <RoyK> egsome: using a gui for your server? :)
[12:44] <egsome> RoyK: NO :), i'm asking as i know that lm-sensors is a GUI only, but now i know that i can use it from command line
[12:44] <sh1ny> egsome, you're wrong
[12:44] <egsome> sh1ny, yeah, thanks
[12:44] <RoyK> "sensors" is the command used on the command-line
[12:45] <sh1ny> he needs to "sensors-detect" first :)
[12:45] <RoyK> yeah
[12:45] <RoyK> and loading some mods
[12:46] <RoyK> and praying to some remote god that the drivers work correctly
[12:46] <egsome> i'm loading them now
[12:46] <RoyK> lmsensors has a few bugs
[12:46] <sh1ny> few ? :P
[12:46] <RoyK> that is, hardware sensors aren't really standardised
[12:47] <sh1ny> well unless you have something like IPMI , your only chance is lmsensors ;)
[12:47] <RoyK> even ipmi is quite buggy, last I checked
[12:48] <RoyK> sh1ny: "a few" != "few"
[12:48] <sh1ny> works fine here, except it does not display my cpu temps with numbers just "low" , "high" etc :P
[12:49] <egsome> i got it working now, thanks guys
[12:49] <sh1ny> you should also install hddtemp for hdd's temps ( obviously )
[12:49] <sh1ny> well at least i do so
[12:49] <egsome> sh1ny, thanks, going to do
[12:51] <egsome> How should i use hddtemp ?
[12:51] <sh1ny> hddtemp /dev/sda
[12:52] <egsome> sh1ny, worked !, thanks
[12:52] <sh1ny> yw :)
[12:53] <egsome> sorry but another question, can i get these temperatures inside webmin ? is there any module that do that ?
[12:54] <sh1ny> i have no idea ;( never used webmin
[12:54] <RoyK> !webmin
[12:54] <egsome> !ebox
[12:55] <egsome> sh1ny, maybe change to eBox, anyway thanks
[13:26] <Mkools> Hi, using tomcat6 my logs are showing deploying war file but when I type URI on firefox I don't get my index page of my webapp. Instead I get "IT WORKS" page of tomcat6,
[13:27] <Mkools> any one can please help.
[13:44] <Mkools> any body.
[14:06] <ccheney> hi
[14:21] <binBASH> Hi all, I reinstalled my servers with Ubuntu server 10.04lts. However I'm not able to get the Eucalyptus cloud running again.
[14:22] <binBASH> it always shows 0 / 0 in free or max vms
[14:22] <binBASH> any tipps how to debug what's wrong?
[14:25] <sommer> morning
[14:25] <binBASH> I had it running on 9.10 before without problems btw. :)
[14:27] <zul> hey sommer
[14:27] <sommer> o//
[14:28] <sommer> zul: you're a triage master :-)
[14:29] <zul> sommer: yeah yeah :)
[14:30] <RoyK> sommer means summer in Norwegian :)
[14:31] <sommer> heh, I figured it was something like that in a few languages... but what do ya do :)
[14:32]  * RoyK celebrates this may 17 slowly
[14:36] <binBASH> Someone knows when Ubuntu lucid will have varnish 2.1.2 package?
[14:37] <binBASH> 2.1.0 is broken, like content overflows and esi not working correct.
[14:37] <sh1ny> most likely in 10.10
[14:37] <binBASH> damn :/
[14:38] <sh1ny> i mean they rarely bump stuff up , especially in LTS
[14:39] <TJ-> hi guys
[14:40] <TJ-> there was a power failue and long story short the only that doesnt work since then is my pptpd server
[14:40] <binBASH> sh1ny: So only I can do is build my own package I guess
[14:40] <sh1ny> binBASH, yes, that's what i usually do
[14:41] <sh1ny> binBASH, try using the debian/ from the existing package and compile the new one with that
[14:41] <sh1ny> or use launchpad ( even better )
[14:41] <TJ-> it used to work fine until the power failure, anyway ive been searching everywhere and it seems the server might have booted into a differnet kernel etc, does anyone know how to get pptpd and the kernel to play nice? I keep getting CTRL: PTY read or GRE write failed (pty,gre)=(5,6) and all the forums and googles dont seem to have a solution for me....
[14:42] <binBASH> sh1ny: Ok, I have to find out how to do it then ;)
[14:42] <sh1ny> well
[14:42] <binBASH> just switched from CentOS
[14:42] <sh1ny> just start with building a package on your pc
[14:43] <sh1ny> aptitude install ubuntu-dev-tools
[14:43] <sh1ny> apt-get build-dep varnish
[14:43] <sh1ny> apt-get source varnish ( as a normal user )
[14:43] <sh1ny> then get the folder "debian" in the source dir that appears and move it to the source dir of the new version of varnish
[14:44] <RoyK> binBASH: you can just compile it yourself
[14:44] <sh1ny> then
[14:44] <sh1ny> debuild
[14:44] <RoyK> not much of a hassle
[14:44] <binBASH> RoyK: Well I don't want to put my system in an unclean state ;)
[14:45] <binBASH> and I have to put that package on some more servers
[14:45] <sh1ny> RoyK, i don't usually recommend to people to "just compile" because many often forget what have they compiled, where and how did they install it etc etc.
[14:45] <sh1ny> so binBASH play around with building deb packages
[14:45] <sh1ny> it's easy
[14:45] <sh1ny> then try launchpad
[14:45] <binBASH> sh1ny: thanks I'll try that
[14:45] <sh1ny> i am using it for some packages for my servers
[14:45] <sh1ny> and i have a little over 150 servers, of which 70 are ubuntu
[14:45] <sh1ny> so "just compiling" won't cut it
[14:46] <binBASH> what tool are you using to administrate these?
[14:46] <binBASH> puppet?
[14:46] <sh1ny> puppet and zenoss for monitoring, tho i think of switching to zabbix and bcfg2
[14:47] <sh1ny> but changes like this take a lot of time :)
[14:47] <binBASH> I will give Kokki a try http://samuelks.com/kokki/
[14:47] <binBASH> because we'll get lots of servers as well
[14:47] <sh1ny> hm python
[14:47] <sh1ny> not bad
[14:48] <sh1ny> i kinda dislike ruby, seems like spaghetti to me :F
[14:48] <binBASH> same here
[14:48] <binBASH> I code php normally, but last weeks I played around with python
[14:48] <binBASH> ;)
[14:51] <sh1ny> php ?
[14:52] <sh1ny> i am playing with symfony as of late.....well last few years :P
[14:52] <sh1ny> still have to make a first project, but i am getting there
[14:52] <sh1ny> :D
[14:52] <sh1ny> being a coder != being a sysadmin :F
[14:53] <binBASH> hehe
[14:53] <sh1ny> btw, why did you switch from centos ?
[14:53] <binBASH> I started as sysadmin, then went to coding
[14:54] <binBASH> the eucalyptus was a mess on CentOS
[14:54] <binBASH> :)
[14:54] <sh1ny> ah :D
[14:54] <sh1ny> i am running lots of kvm virtual machines, but still no opportunity for eucalyptus
[14:55] <sh1ny> tho just by looking at it i seem to like open nebula more
[14:55] <binBASH> sh1ny: http://www.pastie.org/963751
[14:55] <binBASH> btw.
[14:55] <binBASH> :)
[14:55] <sh1ny> binBASH, ya, nothing to worry about
[14:56] <sh1ny> just the packet is not signed
[14:56] <sh1ny> if you have your own gpg key
[14:56] <sh1ny> hm
[14:56] <sh1ny> no
[14:56] <sh1ny> let's start from far
[14:56] <sh1ny> if you did what i told you, you have compiled 2.1.5
[14:56] <sh1ny> but the package gets build for 2.1.0
[14:56] <sh1ny> so to change that
[14:56] <sh1ny> go into the source dir and do
[14:57] <sh1ny> dch -i
[14:57] <sh1ny> it will open the debian/changelog file with the preferred editor
[14:57] <sh1ny> where the asterisk is, add something like
[14:57] <sh1ny>  * New Upstream Release
[14:57] <sh1ny> and
[14:58] <sh1ny> bump the version to 2.1.5
[14:58] <sh1ny> and change the name + email
[14:59] <sh1ny> then save+exit
[14:59] <sh1ny> then rebuild
[15:00] <sh1ny> if you have a gpg key that matches the email it will sign the package with it
[15:00] <binBASH> don't have ;)
[15:00] <binBASH> think I have to create one
[15:01] <binBASH> because it fails still now because of no key
[15:01] <sh1ny> if you're on a desktop use, Applications -> Accessories -> Password  and Encryption Keys
[15:01] <sh1ny> it fails but it still builds it's
[15:01] <sh1ny> it*
[15:01] <binBASH> No I'm not
[15:01] <sh1ny> just not signed
[15:01] <sh1ny> ehm well
[15:01] <binBASH> ahh ok
[15:01] <binBASH> Np, if it's not signed
[15:01] <binBASH> I have a .deb now
[15:01] <sh1ny> the packages are in toplevel dir
[15:01] <sh1ny> :)
[15:01] <binBASH> with correct version
[15:02] <sh1ny> man i do like when people understand what i'm saying, mostly they don't because of my crappy explanation skills
[15:02] <sh1ny> :)
[15:02] <binBASH> ok that was not too hard
[15:02] <binBASH> ;)
[15:03] <binBASH> thanks a lot sh1ny
[15:03] <sh1ny> yea
[15:04] <sh1ny> if you decide to use launchpad for a PPA, there's a step by step howto when you try to create a PPA on how to create a gpg key and all that
[15:04] <binBASH> Now I just have to find out what's the problem with the eucalyptus cloud ;)
[15:05] <sh1ny> ^_^
[15:05] <Pici> er.
[15:05] <Pici> Silly bot.
[15:05] <binBASH> hehe
[15:05] <sh1ny> :)
[15:06] <alienn> Hi,
[15:06] <sh1ny> hey
[15:07] <alienn> one of our server (with several usb disks attached) displays load of error regarding /dev/sr1 (the dvd rom drive) when attaching another usb drive.
[15:07] <alienn> I suspect something automounter like going in. Does anyone have an idead what this could be?
[15:08] <sh1ny> binBASH, well if you have any other issues/questions about something feel free to drop a line @ me, just not with eucalyptus, because i have never run it :(
[15:09] <sh1ny> alienn, not sure why it is bothering you ? is it slowing things down ?
[15:09] <binBASH> thx for the offer sh1ny :)
[15:09] <alienn> sh1ny: It's bothering me because I don't like errors displayed when no errors are present.
[15:10] <alienn> This makes looking for real errors quite hard... ;)
[15:11] <sh1ny> well no idea :(
[15:33] <slipperychicken> i've got some strange disk activity on a server.  is there a way to output all disk activity ?
[15:33] <slipperychicken> to console ?
[15:34] <guntbert> slipperychicken: look at iotop
[15:34] <impi> hello, i had to compile php5 from source to get my GD lib working propperly. Since then I can apt-get install anything as it tells me: apt-get -f install - but if I do this it will upgrade all my php stuff to the latest (NOT WORKING) versions..how do i get my apt back on track >
[15:35] <impi> sorry for the long question guys,
[15:35] <impi> with gentoo i could add the packages to a mask file..but with ubuntu im not sure
[15:35] <slipperychicken> guntbert, thank you so much. :)
[15:36] <guntbert> slipperychicken: you're welcome :-) there is a more "friendly" program too, but I cannto remember it's name right now :-)
[15:37] <sh1ny> you can try dstat or iostat for general statistics
[15:37] <sh1ny> tho they don't show you what process is reading/writing
[15:38] <ivoks> impi: explor pining
[15:38] <JanC> impi: search the web for "apt pinning"
[15:38] <lfaraone> impi: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg356708.html
[15:38] <ivoks> impi: explore... apt-get supports pining
[15:38] <ivoks> pinning
[15:38] <ivoks> bah
[15:38] <lfaraone> internalkernel: in combination with pinning, that is.
[15:38] <slipperychicken> bluetoothd writing to disk @ 23kb/s ?
[15:40] <lfaraone> slipperychicken: what about it?
[15:40] <lfaraone> In http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html, the use of the --tmpfs is mentioned, but when using it with vmbuilder I get "vmbuilder: error: no such option: --tmpfs". Am I doing something wrong, or incorrectly following the instructions?
[15:40] <impi> thanks guys,
[15:40] <impi> let me read abit
[15:41] <hyperlinx> anyone who can help me about ssh public key ??
[15:42] <sh1ny> lfaraone, are you using this with kvm ?
[15:42] <smoser> hyperlinx, don't ask to ask, just ask
[15:43] <lfaraone> sh1ny: Yes. The command in question is "sudo vmbuilder kvm ubuntu --suite lucid --flavour virtual --arch i386 -o --libvirt qemu:///system --mirror=http://192.168.122.1/ubuntu --tmpfs -"
[15:43] <sh1ny> i'd recommend using virt-install instead of vmbuilder
[15:43] <sh1ny> i found vmbuilder buggy and didn't quite grasp what it's trying to do
[15:44] <lfaraone> sh1ny: from what I can tell, it debootstraps then creates a VM image.
[15:47] <slipperychicken> lfaraone, why would it do that constantly ?
[15:47] <linxeh> Hi there - I'm moving a legacy system from a Windows server to a newer linux host, but I need to have a directory that will contain between 250,000 and 1,000,000 subdirectories (at least until we can fix the way the files are stored). what filesystem should I be looking at using? reiserfs ?
[15:48] <ScottK> Whatever your problem, it's unlikley reiserfs is the answer.
[15:48] <lfaraone> slipperychicken: no idea.
[15:48] <ScottK> Personally, I prefer my file systems maintained.
[15:49] <sh1ny> lfaraone, well i might be unable to provide you with help about vmbuilder, but i'd really suggest you look at virt-install . If you decide to do so, let me know and i'll help as much as i can
[15:49] <lfaraone> sh1ny: okay.
[15:49] <linxeh> ScottK: well, as I said, I need to have a directory with that number of subdirectories; ext4 caps out at 64k, though there is talk about some nlink or something, but it appears to be new
[15:49] <lfaraone> sh1ny: I'll take a look at in a bit, off to lunch.
[15:49] <sh1ny> lfaraone, kk, have a nice lunch :)
[15:49] <slipperychicken> lfaraone, was this one of the app's that are not being supported anymroe ?
[15:49] <slipperychicken> anymore.
[15:50] <zul> reiserfs has a tendency to kill things as the joke goes
[15:50] <linxeh> arf
[15:51] <sh1ny> reiserfs is cool
[15:51] <sh1ny> until it gets ugly
[15:51] <sh1ny> :D
[15:52] <binBASH> Hi kirkland!
[15:52] <sh1ny> there's your change for eucalyptus, binBASH  :)
[15:52] <sh1ny> chance*
[15:52] <binBASH> Yeah I know ;)
[15:52] <binBASH> I read his docu.
[15:53] <pmatulis> zul: that's a nasty but funny one
[15:53] <zul> pmatulis: i have heard worse
[15:53] <sh1ny> i've had one funny problem with reiserfs
[15:53] <sh1ny> couldn't figure it for years
[15:54] <sh1ny> was a server, than when shutdown from power failure would never boot
[15:54] <sh1ny> unless you boot with a knoppix cd
[15:54] <sh1ny> just boot with it first, then reboot from hdd and it worked
[15:54] <sh1ny> was weird
[15:56] <binBASH> kirkland: How to fix this issue? http://www.pastie.org/963837
[15:56] <ivoks> zul: that dovecot relative paths
[15:56] <ivoks> zul: it's not a bug
[15:56] <zul> ivoks: ok
[15:57] <ivoks> zul: he's probably using %h somewhere
[15:57] <ivoks> zul: i'll keep an eye on that one
[15:57] <sh1ny> or only %h :D
[15:57] <zul> ivoks: i appreciate if you could add your 2 cents to it though
[15:57] <ivoks> zul: i did
[15:57] <ivoks> zul: copy pasted upstream's 'if you use relative paths you'll die'
[15:57] <zul> ivoks: thanks...i havent gotten new email yet ;)
[16:08] <arch0njw> Good day.  I have a problem with Ubuntu Server (8.10) running as an ESX guest.  I have setup the /etc/networking/interfaces to set a static IP, but the system is not getting the correct IP.
[16:08] <ivoks> if it's static, it's not getting IP
[16:08] <ivoks> it defines it
[16:09] <ivoks> 8.10 isn't supported anyway :D
[16:09] <tooangel> Hey all, is there any possibility to download the ubuntu "branded" kernel/ramdisk images? I want to use them on an eucalyptus/ubuntu cloud
[16:10] <zul> tooangel: no but you can use the virtual kernel its basically the same
[16:11] <tooangel> virtual kernel? Not sure, what you mean
[16:11] <sh1ny> apt-get install linux-image-virtual
[16:11] <sh1ny> that's what he means
[16:11] <kirkland> binBASH: sorry, no, not off hand
[16:12] <ivoks> arch0njw: put your /etc/network/interfaces on pastebin
[16:12] <tooangel> ah, k - i will give it a try - thanks
[16:14] <arch0njw> ivoks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/435016/
[16:14] <ivoks> arch0njw: did you reboot after setting up network?
[16:15] <ivoks> arch0njw: or, at least, kill dhclient? :)
[16:15] <arch0njw> yes rebooted
[16:15] <ivoks> er...
[16:15] <ivoks> eth0 and eth1
[16:15] <ivoks> which one do you want? :)
[16:16] <ivoks> you defined eth0, but ifconfig shows eth1
[16:16] <arch0njw> ivoks: ha!
[16:17] <arch0njw> ivoks: I don't know how the device ID changed.... but that's odd
[16:17] <ivoks> what's odd?
[16:18] <ivoks> how many interfaces do you have?
[16:18] <arch0njw> ivoks: This VM, for reasons beyond my understanding, changed the ID of the network interface from eth0 to eth1.
[16:19] <arch0njw> ivoks: this VM has only one network interface
[16:19] <arch0njw> ivoks: now... the VM was moved recently.  But that shouldn't have changed eth0 to eth1... but I am not an ESX guru
[16:19] <ivoks> this has nothing to do with esx
[16:19] <arch0njw> ivoks: thanks for being a second set of eyes on that!
[16:19] <ivoks> ubuntu names devices by their mac address
[16:20] <Tweeda> are there any guides for really minimal installs of 10.04 server?  My little test VMs are fairly hefty @ 1G used on the root fs
[16:20] <ivoks> if for some reason you replace nic
[16:20] <ivoks> on boot it will be eth0, but as soon as udev kicks in, it will rename it to eth1
[16:20] <arch0njw> ivoks: so if during the move of the VM if the MAC of the device changed that would have updated the eth#, right?
[16:20] <ivoks> look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[16:21] <ivoks> arch0njw: and you should update your VM to supported operating system
[16:21] <ivoks> ubuntnu 8.10 is EOL
[16:24] <arch0njw> I though LTS releases were supported for 5 years.
[16:25] <binBASH> kirkland: I wonder where it takes those wrong certs
[16:25] <pmatulis> arch0njw: 8.10 is not an LTS release, 8.04 and 10.04 are
[16:25] <arch0njw> ivoks: doh.  my mistake.  it is 8.04
[16:26] <arch0njw> ivoks: and I hope to upgrade this to 10.04 in the near future to get the latest and coolest.  :)
[16:27] <arch0njw> ivoks: I am looking at that rules.d file.  (ignorant question): what am i looking for?
[16:28] <ivoks> arch0njw: delete it's contents and reboot :)
[16:28] <ivoks> that's the easiest way out
[16:28]  * pmatulis has heard that this cannot be done anymore (in Lucid)
[16:29] <arch0njw> ivoks: okay.  will try later -- like when folks aren't using the server :D  Thanks again!!!!!
[16:30] <ivoks> if you need new address
[16:30] <ivoks> just add it
[16:30] <ivoks> ifconfig eth1:tmp 10.26.120.7 up
[16:31] <ivoks> 36 :)
[16:32] <arch0njw> ivoks: yes.  caught that oopsie.  :)
[16:39] <LowValueTarget> Please forgive me if this has been asked before.... since lucid, I get tons of lsb-header does not support upstart... messages when I install things
[16:39] <LowValueTarget> doesn't matter what it is
[16:39] <LowValueTarget> Is that a known issue, or am I my own issue?
[16:41] <ivoks> upstart doesn't support lsb-headers
[16:41] <ivoks> ignore those warnnings
[16:43] <LowValueTarget> ivoks: for instance, installing vmware tools http://pastebin.com/16zPAJFC
[16:44] <LowValueTarget> ivoks: All that mess can be ignored?
[16:45] <ivoks> except the build error :)
[16:46] <LowValueTarget> well yes... but the lsb shizz
[16:46] <ivoks> yes
[16:46] <ivoks> ignore it
[16:47] <LowValueTarget> cool thanks
[17:10] <bondiblueos9> is there anything I can install that will let me hit some key combination and then interupt everything that is happening and drop me to a basic terminal?
[17:17] <ne7work> hello all i need help..
[17:17] <ne7work> i go to install ubuntu server edition
[17:17] <ne7work> and i can't select partition
[17:17] <ne7work> how to choose partition
[17:17] <ne7work> please someone help me
[17:18] <ivoks> create it
[17:18] <ne7work> i have from ubuntu desktop
[17:18] <ne7work> one ext4 linux partition
[17:18] <ne7work> and one ext4 swap
[17:18] <ne7work> how to choose this ext4 linux partition
[17:18] <ivoks> http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-lamp-server-installation-with-screenshots.html
[17:18] <ne7work> why lamp?
[17:19] <ivoks> partitioning part is exactly the same, it's the same installer
[17:19] <ne7work> A - apache?
[17:19] <ne7work> M - mysql?
[17:19] <ne7work> P - php?
[17:19] <ne7work> L is?
[17:19] <Pici> Linux
[17:19] <Pici> !enter
[17:19] <ne7work> one by one or lamp setup?
[17:19] <ne7work> this is xampp for linux
[17:19] <ivoks> look at the partitioning part
[17:20] <ivoks> bah...
[17:20] <ne7work> or just installed one by one apache2, mysql-server etc..
[17:20] <ne7work> now I ask for LAMP installation
[17:20] <Pici> xampp is not supported here. You should use the packages in the repos.
[17:20] <ne7work> this lamp install apache2, mysql-server, phpmyadmin, php5-mysql
[17:20] <Pici> !lamp
[17:20] <ne7work> or xampp for linux?
[17:21] <ne7work> xampp name for linux is lamp
[17:21] <ne7work> this not lamp or?
[17:22] <ne7work> Pici, okay i go to install ubuntu-server
[17:22] <ne7work> i test on VMWare ubuntu server edition
[17:22] <ne7work> and ubuntu server edition is very good between ubuntu desktop edition and ubuntu server edition
[17:22] <ne7work> ubuntu desktop edition is sux
[17:22] <ne7work> ubuntu desktop edition is sux
[17:22] <ne7work> i install ubuntu-desktop on server edition
[17:22] <Pici> ne7work: Please don't do that here.
[17:22] <ne7work> and all is very good and performance
[17:22] <ne7work> okay sorry
[17:22] <ne7work> tnx again man
[17:22] <ne7work> really tnx
[17:23] <ne7work> gl & hf :)
[17:23] <Pici> Okay then.
[17:23] <sh1ny> wow, the anger
[17:23] <ivoks> speachless :)
[17:23] <ivoks> speech even
[17:24] <sh1ny> i tried to help this guy yesterday, but he's beyond me
[17:24] <ivoks> i gave up on lamp :)
[17:24] <sh1ny> i gave up on proftpd
[17:24] <sh1ny> after 10 repeats of "the proftpd uses system users to authenticate"
[17:25] <sh1ny> i tried in 10 different ways
[17:27] <ScottK> sh1ny: Generally if you're using FTP in 2010, you're doing it wrong.
[17:28] <vraa> i couldn't get any ftpd working either, but i'm an idiot, so i settled instead for using Filezilla as the client (since it's cross platform) and using sftp (ssh file transfer)
[17:28] <sh1ny> ScottK, depends if it's for personal use or if your clients demand it
[17:29] <sh1ny> ScottK, i have been using sftp for more than 7-8 years already, but many can't do that for various reasons
[17:29] <ScottK> Generally I try to lead clients in a better direction, but certainly it's sometimes not possible to avoid it.
[17:29] <binBASH> here I'm running pure-ftpd
[17:29] <binBASH> :)
[17:29] <sh1ny> ScottK, i also provide ftp services for the hosting i offer, just for that
[17:30] <sh1ny> binBASH, let's start a proftpd vs pure-ftpd flame war ? :P
[17:30] <binBASH> sh1ny: Well I need pure-ftpd
[17:30] <binBASH> Can't use proftpd
[17:30] <binBASH> With pure-ftpd I can start a process right after uploading
[17:31] <binBASH> so if our photographers upload images they will get immediately scheduled to gearman worker processes and those will make thumbnails of the images
[17:33] <sh1ny> hm that's cool
[17:35] <sh1ny> i just generally dislike the way pure-ftpd is configured :/
[17:36] <bondiblueos9> is there anything that would allow me to randomly access my tape drive?
[17:36] <bondiblueos9> any snazzy file system hack?
[17:36] <sh1ny> oh wow, KSM just saved me 3 gigs of ram !
[17:37] <bondiblueos9> or can I really just use it to write and read files with tar
[17:43] <binBASH> KSM?
[17:43] <ivoks> yeah, ksm sounds nice
[17:43] <sh1ny> Kernel Samepage Merging
[17:43] <bondiblueos9> what is the command to know how much memory your system has?
[17:43] <sh1ny> free -m
[17:43] <ivoks> free
[17:43] <bondiblueos9> thanks
[17:44] <LowValueTarget> when using apt-mirror and setting defaultarch to amd64
[17:45] <binBASH> sh1ny: How to use this?
[17:45] <LowValueTarget> does it grab arch independent packages as well?
[17:45] <sh1ny> binBASH, if you're on lucid, it should be on by default
[17:45] <binBASH> ok
[17:45] <sh1ny> it's for KVM virtual machnes
[17:45] <binBASH> ahh :p
[17:45] <binBASH> ok those don't work for me yet, remember? :P
[17:45] <sh1ny> well if you're using eucalyptus with kvm, should work for you also :D
[17:45] <sh1ny> haha
[17:45] <sh1ny> yea
[17:45] <binBASH> But I'll debug it later
[17:45] <binBASH> first I'll go home now ;)
[17:48] <sh1ny> i got a test server, 6GiB ram, 3 virt machines with 2048,1536,1024 RAM and usage went down to 1.5GiB
[17:48] <sh1ny> binBASH, i just got home :D
[17:55] <bondiblueos9> is there any way for me to tell if my RAM is ECC or not?
[17:55] <sh1ny> what does lshw -short return ?
[18:18] <smoser> ah... abstraction
[18:18] <smoser> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smoser/+junk/uec-on-ec2/annotate/head:/commands.txt
[18:18] <smoser> run a full UEC on top of an ec2 instance
[18:19] <Italian_Plumber> is there a way to get ubuntu server to automatically mount USB drives when they're plugged in?
[18:21] <ivoks> yes
[18:21] <ivoks> usbmount
[18:21] <ivoks> that's an easy way to accomplish that
[18:21] <ivoks> iirc, it provides udev rules and scripts for automounting
[18:22] <Italian_Plumber> thanks!
[18:22] <slipperychicken> Italian_Plumber, cron ! :)
[18:22] <ivoks> cron was never solution :)
[18:24] <zul> smoser: hey
[18:33] <bondiblueos9> Italian_Plumber: there is also ivman
[18:34] <bondiblueos9> Italian_Plumber: which is also support to automount cd and dvd
[18:39] <ivoks> ivman depends on hal, doesn't it?
[18:40] <ivoks> i used it...hm... 5 years ago? :)
[18:40] <ivoks> maybe even more :)
[19:00] <zul> Daviey: ping the rest is yours
[19:09] <Daviey> zul: huh?
[19:09] <zul> Daviey: the bug count
[19:10] <Daviey> eeek
[19:13] <pmatulis> is there some ubuntu-specific instructions for implementing graphical PXE boot menus for network installs?
[19:14] <zul> pmatulis: im pretty sure that the same generic instructions apply to ubuntu as well
[19:14] <pmatulis> zul: pretty sure too, just surprised i couldn't find any
[19:19] <netnull> hello there, someone can help me to set up postfix ? im getting crazy cause i dunno how to do it
[19:21] <pmatulis> netnull: that's normal.  be patient
[19:22] <netnull> pmatulis, im being patient from already 1 month :)
[19:22] <netnull> pmatulis, can u help me to set up mailboxes?
[19:23] <Pici> If you ask an actual question we may be able to help.
[19:24] <netnull> Pici, i've installed postfix im my localhost cause i want to understend how to set up mailboxes to try to do same on a server
[19:24] <netnull> Pici, i dunno how to set up mailboxes, what should i do?
[19:24] <netnull> sorry for my awful english
[19:24] <dtminsk> What is the easiest way to get a LAMP server in 10.04 LTS desktop?
[19:25] <pmatulis> dtminsk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[19:26] <LowValueTarget> I setup a local server as an Ubuntu Repository Mirror using apt-mirror..... in my mirror.list file I specified defaultarch as amd64. Will this mirror architecture independent packages as well?
[19:26] <Pici> netnull: Have you looked at the Ubuntu Server Guide at all?
[19:27] <netnull> Pici, i did, but i didnt find info im looking for. Do u have any link to give me?
[19:27] <dtminsk> I want to setup a machine primairly as a LAMP/SMB/SSH server but also have GUI access sometimes through the local computer but mostly through X11 like NXserver
[19:28] <dtminsk> would it be best to start from ubuntu 10.04 server or desktop
[19:28] <dtminsk> I have a somewhat screwy desktop install now that has not been optimal for server use
[19:29] <netnull> Pici, is this the only thing i should do? : sudo postconf -e 'home_mailbox = Maildir/'
[19:29] <Pici> netnull: I don't know.  Sorry.
[19:29] <Pici> Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html
[19:33] <ne7work> Hello all..
[19:33] <ne7work> what's different between debian and ubuntu server?
[19:34] <dtminsk> How do I mount a secondary disc before login from the GUI?
[19:35] <SpamapS> ne7work: loads
[19:35] <ne7work> what?
[19:36] <SpamapS> ne7work: But mostly just the release and support process. ;)
[19:36] <ne7work> ubuntu desktop edition is very sux
[19:36] <SpamapS> yeah, I heard that they built it with anti-troll features. ;)
[19:55] <LowValueTarget> Any ideas regarding my apt-mirror question?
[19:56] <guntbert> LowValueTarget: I haven't seen it
[19:57] <LowValueTarget> I setup a local server as an Ubuntu Repository Mirror using apt-mirror..... in my mirror.list file I specified defaultarch as amd64. Will this mirror architecture independent packages as well?
[20:00] <guntbert> LowValueTarget: I don't *know* - but from pure logic: a repo contains "everything" needed on an architecture, so I'd assume yes -- I have been using apt-mirror without any issues for a while now
[20:00] <LowValueTarget> cool thanks!
[20:00] <LowValueTarget> I had some permission problems earlier too... i had been messing around in the apt-mirror directory as root
[20:01] <LowValueTarget> i assume everything in apt-mirror needs to be owned by apt-mirror:apt-mirror
[20:01] <LowValueTarget> correct?
[20:01] <guntbert> LowValueTarget: yes, the first thing you mess up as root is the lock-file in var :)
[20:01] <LowValueTarget> hahaha
[20:02] <LowValueTarget> you know it. Cool thanks!
[20:02] <guntbert> guess how I came to know it
[20:02] <LowValueTarget> much nicer than those #debian folks.... sheesh. (i'm just sayin) http://grab.by/grabs/a28f8ef31970279d5a239376e1b1665f.png
[20:03] <guntbert> LowValueTarget: sudo -i -u apt-mirror  is sometimes easy to mistype, I ended with sudo apt-mirror -- bang, ...
[20:04] <LowValueTarget> that'll do it
[20:04] <LowValueTarget> i just su apt-mirror to be safe
[20:05] <guntbert> LowValueTarget: no need - use sudo -i -u apt-mirror instead -- then you issue apt-mirror (the command)
[20:05] <LowValueTarget> makes sense
[20:05] <LowValueTarget> thanks
[20:06] <LowValueTarget> well wait.... doesnt su do the same thing?
[20:06] <guntbert> LowValueTarget: and as aside: in #ubuntu questions about "derivatives" are not regarded well....  - so I can understand the debian people
[20:06] <LowValueTarget> makes sense... seems like common sense would prevail though
[20:07] <guntbert> !root
[20:08] <guntbert> LowValueTarget: generally for su that account has to have a password, with sudo not
[20:08] <LowValueTarget> i see
[20:08] <LowValueTarget> as bad as it is... im sudoed to root most of the time
[20:08] <LowValueTarget> everything i do generally requires sudo
[20:08] <LowValueTarget> if not
[20:08] <sh1ny> it's not bad as long as you know what you're doing
[20:09] <guntbert> LowValueTarget: don't - you get accustomed to that rather quick and inadvertently kill your system
[20:09] <LowValueTarget> i manage hundreds of linux systems.
[20:10] <sh1ny> same here, around 170 in total
[20:10] <sh1ny> never hurted me
[20:10] <LowValueTarget> a few keystrokes here and there on all these systems saves days
[20:10] <guntbert> sh1ny: and you *always* know what you are doing - I admire you :-))  - I make my mistakes but not as root
[20:10] <sh1ny> but then again, a mistake in a script can get your / deleted :)
[20:10] <LowValueTarget> if I didn't login as root I would sudo every command anyway
[20:10] <LowValueTarget> same thing
[20:11] <sh1ny> guntbert, i didnt say i make no mistakes
[20:11] <LowValueTarget> yeah... we use r1soft on all our systems. Good backup plan, but we dont ever really need it
[20:11] <LowValueTarget> i have rm'd a few dirs that i didnt want to before
[20:11] <LowValueTarget> ;)
[20:11] <sh1ny> i have rm'd / a few times
[20:11] <sh1ny> like 5 years ago
[20:11] <LowValueTarget> ouch
[20:11] <sh1ny> learned a lot since then
[20:11] <LowValueTarget> 5 years makes a lot of difference if you have yoru hands in it everyday
[20:11] <sh1ny> mostly to hate regexp
[20:11] <sh1ny> :P
[20:12] <guntbert> LowValueTarget: I'm not in a position to question your abilities  - "needing root all the time" seems .... well ... strange
[20:12] <LowValueTarget> but yes guntbert, I advocate to all our customers to sudo and not login as root
[20:12] <guntbert> LowValueTarget: :)
[20:12] <LowValueTarget> guntbert: depends on what youre doing... managing multiple users, permissions etc
[20:12] <LowValueTarget> intalling, uninstalling
[20:12] <LowValueTarget> update-rc.. you get the picture
[20:13] <sh1ny> well i am pretty sure you have as much different scenarios as i do LowValueTarget
[20:13] <LowValueTarget> we are a managed hosting provider
[20:13] <guntbert> LowValueTarget: in that case I agree - pure server management - no "real work" :-))
[20:13] <sh1ny> i have web hostings, samba file servers/PDC's, virtual machines, routers, proxies
[20:13] <sh1ny> all for around 100 different clients
[20:13] <LowValueTarget> nice
[20:13] <sh1ny> i have to solve problems daily
[20:14] <LowValueTarget> Now.... to subjects I DON'T know (which is alot ;)
[20:14] <LowValueTarget> Can someone point me in the right direction on how to create a deb package to distribute scripts, not binaries
[20:14] <LowValueTarget> super simple deb package. No make, configure, make install
[20:15] <sh1ny> just check out some package that does that already
[20:15] <sh1ny> let me think of something
[20:15] <LowValueTarget> know of any
[20:15] <ScottK> LowValueTarget: It's essentially the same just that the "compile" is copying the scripts where they should go.
[20:15] <sh1ny> working on that, sec :)
[20:15] <LowValueTarget> mplayer-skins seems to be no binaries
[20:15] <LowValueTarget> ill grab source of that and check
[20:16] <sh1ny> https://launchpad.net/~dnjl/+archive/ppa
[20:16] <sh1ny> dnjl-repositories
[20:16] <sh1ny> adds some .list and gpg keys and stuff
[20:16] <LowValueTarget> cool ill check that one too
[20:37] <ScottK> !ops
[20:39] <lamont> he really needs to learn a third word
[20:40] <arch0njw> lamont: ouch.  I am still laughing.  pain!  funny!
[20:58] <Airells> hi after install swat and login on default user ( created at installing system ) ther is only " home , status , view , password "  in menu
[20:58] <Airells> any good tut about swat + samba ?
[20:59] <guntbert> Airells: did you see the serverguide?
[20:59] <guntbert> !serverguide | Airells
[21:00] <Airells> k thx
[21:00] <gregcoit> I've got a job in rc.local that I need mysql to wait for but am unclear how init.d and init interacts in lucid...
[21:02] <gregcoit> any suggestons on how to tell mysql to wait for rc.local before starting?
[21:03] <soren> gregcoit: Remove (or comment out) the "start on" bits in /etc/init/mysql.conf and call "start mysql" at the end of rc.local.
[21:03] <gregcoit> soren: that seems like cheating but should work - thanks!
[21:04] <smoser> hggdh, sometime this week i'd like to run the cloud images through a set of tests
[21:04] <binBASH> re
[21:04] <smoser> for lucid. i'd like to send a refresh of the image that contains a fix for bug 571271
[21:07] <hggdh> smoser: yeeeee, more cloud tests ;-) what type?
[21:07] <binBASH> Hey smoser!
[21:07] <binBASH> :)
[21:08] <smoser> hggdh, well, i suppose the topo2 would be the best to run
[21:08] <smoser> generally i want to make sure that i've made the situation better with the longer timeout
[21:08] <hggdh> smoser: with lucid up-to-date, or GA?
[21:08] <smoser> image from "up to date"
[21:08] <binBASH> smoser: I reinstalled my servers now with lucid ;)
[21:09] <binBASH> now my cloud ain't working anymore
[21:09] <smoser> whu oh
[21:09] <binBASH> hehehe
[21:09] <smoser> hggdh i dont think it makes much sense to test GA
[21:09] <hggdh> smoser: I agree :-)
[21:09] <smoser> as it has known problems. more sense in testing current -updates i think.
[21:09] <smoser> binBASH, well, what all is going wrong ?
[21:10] <binBASH> smoser:  http://www.pastie.org/963837
[21:11] <smoser> i'm not sure what i'm looking at
[21:11] <binBASH> cloud.log
[21:11] <binBASH> :)
[21:11] <binBASH> I dunno which certs are wrong
[21:11] <binBASH> copied all to the nodes
[21:12] <b01i> Hello, everyone.  I hope you are very good.  I need some help for a Ubuntu Server Installation in a HP ML150G6 Server.  The problem is simple...  When I put the Ubuntu Server CD on the server, this message appears: "no common cd-rom drive was detected"
[21:12] <binBASH> smoser: I saved your patch for the script though so I can have vnc again ;)
[21:12] <halvors> Someone know about some good webbased gui's like Webmin?
[21:14] <b01i> Some idea about what can be happening?
[21:14] <guntbert> !webmin | halvors
[21:14] <halvors> yes i know it is therfore i ask about some others ;)
[21:15] <halvors> ebox cant have domain admin ;)
[21:15] <halvors> or can it?
[21:16] <guntbert> halvors: sorry, no idea - I and ebox don't seem to get along :-))
[21:31] <enav> hi all
[21:34] <b01i> help .....
[21:36] <enav> what happen
[21:42] <slackste1> Hi, I'm having trouble with my monitor getting a signal to turn on.
[21:42] <enav> slackste1 aster installation?
[21:42] <enav> slackste1 after installation?
[21:42] <slackste1> yes
[21:43] <enav> slackste1 video card model?
[21:43] <slackster> humm.. NVIDIA 6600
[21:43] <slackster> anyway I can force the signal through a remote shell?
[21:44] <enav> slackste1 check the disk for data corruption before install
[21:44] <slackster> well, everything seems to be working fine enav, except for the monitor isn't getting the signal to go out of sleep mode
[21:45] <slackster> I'm chatting using the server with irssi now, logged in..
[21:45] <slackster> but monitor will not wake up
[21:45] <slackster> thought it was a problem with USB keyboard, but I have adapter now
[21:46] <enav> i saw some intel video card related bug at launchepad...
[21:46] <slackster> humm, interesting
[21:46] <enav> yep
[21:47] <slackster> oh.. it's actually an older card in this machine
[21:47] <enav> 3 guys came here with the same problem... i black screen after installation
[21:47] <slackster> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.32-22-server |  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz 2666.420 MHz | Bogomips: 5332.84 | Mem: 1684/2009M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 455.64G Free: 83.01G | Procs: 97 | Uptime: 5 days 1 hr 25 mins 34 secs | Load: 0.60 0.63 0.67  | Vpenis: 207.3 cm | Vboobies: 79G | Screen: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a4) | eth0: In: 18.47G Out: 5.73G
[21:47] <slackster> GeForce MX 440
[21:48] <slackster> enav: ah, I see
[21:48] <enav> try alt+f1    some times that bring video to life
[21:48] <slackster> yes, tried that. :(
[21:49] <enav> let me google something for you
[21:49] <slackster> this is what I've found through google. ->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=561004
[21:51] <enav> some times i loss my numkey pad functionality after sleep mode
[21:51] <slackster> humm
[21:55] <slackster> I had the problem with my KVM switch that once it switched to the server, it wouldn't switch back (scoll lk twice)
[21:55] <bluethundr> I am using an apt sources list from a known good server of the same server OS (Hardy 8.04) but apt on this machine appears to be busted http://pastebin.com/KFSYbAkP
[21:55] <bluethundr> update and upgrade just won't work
[22:02] <bluethundr> I even launched a new aws instance with hardy 8.04 x64 on it, grabbed the sources.list file via scp onto the problem box and still no love.. apt wont' work
[22:04] <ScottK> bluethundr: Err http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release.gpg means you have a networking problem, not a apt problem.
[22:04] <bluethundr> ScottK: ok, thanks
[22:04] <ScottK> No problem.
[22:07] <webwurst> i just installed dovecot-postfix, but i can't start postfix. there is no error in /var/log/mail.log
[22:08] <Datz> well I succeeded in accidentally restarting the mahcine by pressing keys when the screen was off in an attempt to wake it.
[22:08] <webwurst> "sudo service postfix start" or ".. status" don't give any output
[22:08] <Datz> Now that the screen has not gone to sleep, it is working fine
[22:08] <Datz> monitor*
[22:09] <slackster> wrong nick :P
[22:10] <bluethundr> correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't service a centos / RH thing and not an ubuntu/debian thing? AFAIK it has to be /etc/init.d/postfix start
[22:11] <webwurst> i guess it works on both http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man8/service.8.html
[22:11] <webwurst> using /etc/init.d/postfix start doesn't change the behaviour..
[22:11] <ScottK> webwurst: If you actually get postfix to try to start, it will log something.
[22:13] <webwurst> ScottK: ok, thanks. i will try to purge and install again..
[22:17] <webwurst> thanks a lot! "postfix/master[16662]: daemon started" in log-file
[22:19] <slackster> enav: monitor working now, after restart.  How can I disable it from sleeping again?
[22:19] <enav> im pretty sure the sleep unction is just crazing the xrog stuff
[22:20] <enav> google how to disable the sleep function
[22:20] <slackster> kk :)
[22:21] <enav> i just disable screen saver on my ubuntu desktop  it crash my system every time it tries to run
[22:22] <enav> be patient we are not perfect yet :)
[22:22] <slackster> enav: np ;)
[22:31] <slackster> in 8.04, almost looks as though there is no sleep funtion for the monitor.  I don't know if something was added
[22:31] <xorl> say I discard an ini update, does it delete that discarded INI or does it store it something like ininame.dist.ini?
[22:53] <binBASH> kirkland: I fixed my cloud btw.
[22:53] <kirkland> binBASH: good to hear
[22:54] <binBASH> Just reinstalled the cluster/cloud controller again then it worked somehow
[23:29] <slackster> enav: The monitor woke up after it went to sleep this time. :)
[23:29] <enav> nice
[23:29] <slackster> I never powered it off.. I'm now afraid to.
[23:29] <slackster> lol
[23:29] <enav> did you check the cd for data integrity ?
[23:30] <slackster> cd, no
[23:30] <slackster> I'm not sure where it is anymore
[23:30] <enav> do it... reboot your PC and select  "check Cd for errors"
[23:31] <slackster> ok, I'll do that once I find the cd
[23:31] <enav> sorry.... put your CD in, reboot, and select "check Cd for errors"
[23:32] <enav> if you got some errors just burn that cd again at 4X  speed
[23:41] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: is there any wikipage/blueprint that explains how the autoregistration works and stuff like that?
[23:41] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: not sure
[23:42] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: it's just avahi + a listener
[23:42] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: but for example, who connects to who via the autoregistration and once its discovered, how is it registered?
[23:42] <slackster> enav: the cd is valid it says
[23:43] <enav> good
[23:43] <enav> well your problem sounds like a bug
[23:44] <enav> try to submit a launchepad entry with your hardware specification and bug behavior
[23:44] <slackster> ok, I'll see if it happens again
[23:44] <enav> well this is allready created but submit your hardware specs
[23:45] <slackster> will do, thanks
[23:54] <enav> put this description "Black screen after Ubuntu server edition 10.04 installation process"
[23:55] <bluethundr> does anyone know of any good _current_ hardy repos?
[23:56] <Pici> bluethundr: Whats wrong with the official hardy repos?
[23:56] <bluethundr> archive.ubuntu.com does not appear to be resolving on this server host
[23:57] <Pici> !mirrorstatus
[23:57] <bluethundr> thank u
[23:57] <Pici> np