[00:00] <GeekSquid> devdz: to answer your question, not really, ... while it can be done, very limited in what you can do, the libraries are crippled
[00:01] <JayB922> Hello
[00:01] <Dawn_Of_Dreams> Where is C:?
[00:01] <bobo123> daniel, panel?
[00:02] <bobo123> hello JayB922
[00:02] <JayB922> is anyone available to help me with something?
[00:02] <sebsebseb> !ask | JayB922
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[00:02] <tomatto_> hello
[00:02] <Luija1006> Is there a way to try gnome without reinstalling?
[00:02] <sebsebseb> Luija1006: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:02] <tomatto_> please, do you know about program to manipulating phonebook/addressbook and etc. for sony ericsson mobile?
[00:03] <sebsebseb> !ot | tomatto_
[00:03] <bobo123> Dawn_Of_Dreams: your c:\ is named after what its label is named, so if your c: have label "mydisk" it will be found at "/media/mydisk/" in ubuntu
[00:03] <Luija1006> sebsebseb: and If i wanna later desinstall it?
[00:03] <duffydack> tomatto_, try wammu
[00:03] <sebsebseb> !purekde | Luija1006
[00:03] <LjL> !info gammu | tomatto_
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[00:03] <Dawn_Of_Dreams> Ok
[00:03] <duffydack> what LjL saud :)
[00:04] <sebsebseb> tomatto_: ok looks like I misunderstood your question
[00:04] <LjL> 'multisync' might also work
[00:04] <tomatto_> duffydack: have you some better app?
[00:04] <aar> Hi, suspend is broken in my Dell Inspiron 1525 (Kubuntu Hardy 8,04). Has anyone started experiencing similar issues, or is it just me?
[00:05] <duffydack> tomatto_, no, gammu is the gui version of wammu
[00:05] <JayB922> I am trying to upgrade from 9.04 jaunty to 10.04 lTS.  I completed the upgrade to 9.10 first.  It seems to work, however here are a few things not working. The biggest of which my update manager will not launch.  I click on it to launch it and nothing happens and I cannot launch it from command line either.  How can I fix it?
[00:05] <morticide> could someone please tell me how to disable my computer from interacting with ubuntu-one service (10.04) ?
[00:05] <sebsebseb> morticide: you can easilly remove Ubuntu One
[00:05] <tomatto_> duffydack: i know gammu and wammu. but it is not so good for se mobile
[00:06] <sebsebseb> morticide: you can also disable it  in.  system > preferences > startup applications
[00:06] <duffydack> tomatto_, tried it in lucid?  there is also a ppa for bleeding edge versions https://launchpad.net/~nijel/+archive/ppa
[00:06] <morticide> sebsebseb: ok thanks, silly question. thx anyways.
[00:07] <daniel> bobo123 yes panel
[00:07] <Wanderer> how do I make autofs start automatically?  I can "service autofs start" and it starts fine but it won't start after a reboot
[00:08] <tomatto_> duffydack: exactly on lucid no.
[00:09] <Some_Person> Could I potentially share an internet connection that requires a proxy server to other computers without configuring anything on the other computers?
[00:09] <MACscr> how can i remote into a windows server using RDP, but from my ubuntu box?
[00:09] <sebsebseb> !rdp | MACscr
[00:09] <bobo123> I'm not sure what you mean by panel with custom image daniel
[00:09] <tomatto_> duffydack: it is not in main repo?
[00:10] <sebsebseb> bobo123: I think daniel  means, they have replaced the Ubuntu logo, with something else
[00:10] <MACscr> sebsebseb: i didnt get anything
[00:10] <duffydack> tomatto_, probably is, but a ppa usually contains a newer version....
[00:10] <sebsebseb> MACscr: yes there isn't a factoid
[00:11]  * bobo123 goes to bed, tries to find out how to get smb working tomorrow instead
[00:11] <sebsebseb> MACscr: you can VNC with Windows, and maybe FreeNX
[00:11] <fredrik_> I've just installed ubuntu server edition on my laptop. I want my computer to boot into cli, but also have an option to start a GUI
[00:11] <sebsebseb> !vnc > MACscr
[00:11] <fredrik_> Suggestions?
[00:11] <duffydack> tomatto_, if all that fails then I guess a windows VM with SE software is the next best thing...
[00:11] <tomatto_> duffydack: windows VM?
[00:11] <MACscr> sebsebseb: im not looking for other remote admin options, im looking how to use RDP
[00:12] <sebsebseb> MACscr: ok
[00:12] <sebsebseb> MACscr: look in the Ubuntu repo
[00:12] <duffydack> !virtualbox | tomatto_
[00:12] <sebsebseb> MACscr: there is stuff
[00:12] <fredrik_> Also, when I try to 'iwconfig wlan0 essid' I get the error "Network is down" - how do I put it up?
[00:12] <iceroot> MACscr: install rdesktop and usw rdsektop host
[00:13] <duffydack> tomatto_, you`ll need the non-free version with usb support though.
[00:13] <daniel> bobo123, sebsebseb i just right clicked on the panel and went to properties>background>background image and changed the image... but everytime i turn the computer off and on again it goes away and changes back to the default theme panel
[00:13] <sebsebseb> daniel: not sure about that, but the theme will decide which image is used
[00:13] <dto> hi. i have an older hauppauge wintv pvr card and the ivtv driver module appears to have loaded itself. how do I go about recording video from it? what program should I use?
[00:14] <MACscr> iceroot: thanks for the tip, but as i already mentioned, im not interested in running a different host/server
[00:14] <sebsebseb> tomatto_: both versions are free as in price
[00:14] <sebsebseb> tomatto_: the one in Ubuntu repo is open source, and the other version is closed source
[00:14] <tomatto_> ok
[00:14] <iceroot> MACscr: rdesktop is a client for rdp and the command rdesktop hostname  will coonnect to the rdp-server
[00:14] <evon> kjele: how do i find the uuid? and do i replace the /dev/sdd1 section with the uuid?
[00:15] <dana_>  hi there, i have a prob... ubuntu wont boot anymore after updating it.. it says "grub rescue>" ... 'ls' says "(hd0)" .. i am desperate
[00:15] <sebsebseb> duffydack: would be good if that factoid was updated to explain that, the amount of times I have done it in here now
[00:15] <iceroot> dana_: have a look at mythtv or vdr if you want a real video-recorder with many nice features
[00:15] <duffydack> sebsebseb, a few factoids need updating..
[00:16] <sebsebseb> duffydack: we can suggest it to the ops, and it can be done with ubottu in pm,  altough I am not sure how to do that
[00:16] <dana_> i booted a liveCD... what to do?
[00:16] <tomatto_> export LC_MESSAGES="en_US.ISO-8859-1"
[00:16] <tomatto_> -bash: varovn: setlocale: LC_MESSAGES: cannot change locale (en_US.ISO-8859-1): No such file or directory
[00:16] <tomatto_> ?
[00:16] <dana_> (win7 on partition 1, ubuntu on second partition)
[00:16] <iceroot> dto: have a look at mythtv or vdr if you want a real video-recorder with many nice features
[00:16] <iceroot> dana_: sorry wrong nick before
[00:17] <evon> dana_ iam not understanding your prob coompletely
[00:17] <duffydack> dana_, my win7 has 2 partitions.. 1 small boot and another for win7
[00:17] <dto> iceroot: i can't seem to use the device with anything despite modules being loaded. like ivtv, v4l2_common, tuner
[00:17] <dto> do i need to set somethin gup?
[00:17] <fullmetalg> Hey guys, any ideas on why won't my second hard drive appear under "places"? ^^'
[00:17] <fullmetalg> (It used to be there)
[00:17] <dana_> evon: the problem is that i am a noob i think and the MBR is fucked up ;(
[00:18] <sebsebseb> !language | dana_
[00:18] <evon> dana_ sound like you need to reinstall grub2
[00:18] <coz_> ok guys...  I notice that several things have not been fixed in lucid... wallpaper rendering options.... multiple partition external has no right click unmount ....any news?
[00:18] <sebsebseb> coz_: wall paper rendering options ?
[00:18] <busydoinnothin> Hey guys, is there a server app that will allow me to access my music on my xbox 360 AND my Android phone? So far I can only find apps that'll do one or the other.
[00:19] <dana_> evon: and how do i do reinstall it?
[00:19] <duffydack> coz_, unmount is there in  my beta install updated to final, but not my fresh final install... It needs to be fixed :)
[00:19] <dana_> sebsebseb: sorry for my mistake :-)
[00:19] <evon> dana_ this is the guide i used yesterday to solve a similar problem http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html
[00:19] <coz_> sebsebseb,  yeah on dual monitors  all of the options put the wallpaper centered between both monitors and  nothing for stretching the wallpaper across both monitors
[00:19] <evon> dana_ remember you have to refer to your linux partition
[00:19] <coz_> duffydack,   I thought so ok   thanks guy
[00:20] <sebsebseb> coz_: yeah  uhmm don't really know about this, but I think 10.04 has some issues with monitors for true geeks, since they have a dual instead of a standard :D
[00:20] <JayB922> to do a fresh install of Lucid over Karmic do you have to format the hd first or will it overwrite?
[00:20] <coz_> sebsebseb,   yeah  I can only get mirrored or centered wallpapers   ok thanks
[00:20] <dana_> evon: thanks, i will read it first ;-)
[00:20] <sebsebseb> coz_: maybe something in the notes
[00:21] <sebsebseb> coz_: or if not for that, other issues you have
[00:21] <teclik> hi, i am trying to make own live cd in Virtualbox. I have chrooted edited cd and started X server. It started fine, but mouse don't work. Any tips to get mouse working? Thanks-
[00:21] <sebsebseb> !notes | coz_
[00:21] <coz_> JayB922,  it should overwrite   generall i use  Dban to write zeros to the drive first
[00:21] <onetinsoldier> anyone else having trouble with access to http://www.ubuntu.com/ ?
[00:21] <coz_> sebsebseb,  thanks
[00:21] <openbravo> hi
[00:21] <onetinsoldier> hello
[00:21] <sebsebseb> teclik: your trying to make your own Ubuntu ISO?
[00:21] <DIL> nah justgot on
[00:22] <openbravo> does anyone knoq how to install java\
[00:22] <sebsebseb> !java | openbravo
[00:22] <openbravo> on ubuntu
[00:22] <DIL> yes on ubutu
[00:22] <duffydack> !remastersys | teclik
[00:22] <sebsebseb> !remaster | teclik
[00:22] <duffydack> lol
[00:22] <sebsebseb> duffydack: I was going to do that, but then you nearly beat me to it
[00:22] <sebsebseb> duffydack: well you would have, if you hadn't messed up :D
[00:23] <duffydack> sebsebseb, its called remasterSYS!  well ok
[00:23] <sebsebseb> duffydack: what the program that does it?  well the factoid is remaste
[00:23] <sebsebseb> r
[00:23] <osmosis> help, headphone jack not working on lucid.
[00:23] <duffydack> sebsebseb, its the best one I have tried, by far...
[00:23] <lengend> How can I repair grub through the live cd?
[00:24] <sebsebseb> duffydack: I have never done a remaster
[00:24] <teclik> I am advancing as written at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization but somehow mouse don't work in KDE...
[00:24] <duffydack> sebsebseb, its sweet...
[00:24] <sebsebseb> lengend: Grub 2 you mean?
[00:24] <sebsebseb> lengend: Which version of Ubuntu?
[00:24] <lengend> Well I have troubles booting, since I have "No Kernel" and the live cd is 10.04 LTS I believe
[00:24] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | lengend
[00:25] <lengend> At the moment, I have no problems reformatting long as I can back up my files...
[00:26] <sebsebseb> lengend: so this is an upgrade from 9.10 or?
[00:26] <lengend> I believe so, yes...
[00:26] <sebsebseb> lengend: belive so?  you would know if you upgraded
[00:27]  * toilet turd
[00:27] <teclik> duffydack: thx remastersys looks like something what could help me. i'll try it.
[00:28] <lengend> It was a while ago, and yes it was 9.10. And I do not remember what updates I install via the Update Manager. All I did was reboot my laptop and I got GNU Grub 1.97 Beta4 with options of 2.6.31-14 through to 21
[00:28] <lengend> Which none of them work including recovery ones
[00:29] <duffydack> teclik, its quite awesome.  it can make an iso of your current install, which is installable also.  providing you dont have 500gig of stuff it makes a nice personal livecd/dvd
[00:29] <classvoid> has anyone gotten gnustep-devel package to install under 10.04? It keeps complaining about gorm.app missing from the repository
[00:30] <onetinsoldier> gorm.app eh? hehe
[00:30] <classvoid> I think it might only be an 64-bit version problem but I'm not sure
[00:30] <onetinsoldier> has me thinking of the Gorn from the origina Star Trek
[00:31] <classvoid> lol damn those vile gorn ...
[00:31] <onetinsoldier> lol
[00:31] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: are you trying to install a .deb package?
[00:31] <sebsebseb> lengend: ok I guess re install
[00:32] <sebsebseb> lengend: as for data as long as the partitions are still there, which they probably are
[00:32] <sebsebseb> lengend: then stick in the Live CD, and access the partition, and get hold of data
[00:32] <teclik> duffydack: yeah. i would like to create my personalized ubuntu portabal distro and this looks like the easiest and most sophisticated way to do that. that.
[00:32] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, i'm trying to install the gnustep-devel package through synaptic manager from the repos - it can't find gorm.app so it complains
[00:32] <R3cur51v3> Why were the Close, Minimize, and Maximize buttons moved in 10.04? Can they be restored back to the upper right hand corner of windows?
[00:32] <sebsebseb> !controls | R3cur51v3
[00:32] <R3cur51v3> Via a config setting or something?
[00:32] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: you using lucid? i'll try the package
[00:33] <sebsebseb> R3cur51v3: do the above, or just change theme, to one that isn't the default black or default grey
[00:33] <lengend> sebsebseb, yea I tried but it froze once I put in my external. I guess I will just use usb sticks.
[00:33] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, yes
[00:33] <R3cur51v3> sebsebseb, thanks
[00:33] <sebsebseb> R3cur51v3: np :)
[00:33] <sebsebseb> R3cur51v3: and yay another one asking about that :)
[00:33] <R3cur51v3> lol
[00:33] <sebsebseb> R3cur51v3: here's the simple explination
[00:33] <R3cur51v3> Changes piss people off. Change for the sake of itself is no good.
[00:34] <sebsebseb> R3cur51v3: they did it in 10.04, because they are starting to make Ubuntu more Mac OS X like, and  there will be a feature in 10.10 where the buttons are meant to be
[00:34] <R3cur51v3> So that's not surprising that lots of people asked about it.
[00:34] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, you running 32 or 64 bit? I only saw one complaint about it on the bug list and it was from an 64-bit install too
[00:34] <R3cur51v3> "where the buttons are meant to be" what?
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: i started up 'aptitude' and then check out the gnustep-devel package in there. yep, gorm.app shows as 'unavailable'
[00:34] <sebsebseb> R3cur51v3: also when they did it when 10.0r4 was in development,  loads of people complaiend on Launchpad in a bug thread
[00:35] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: 64-bit here
[00:35] <sebsebseb> R3cur51v3: according to upstream Gnome, the buttons for open windows, are still meant to be on the right
[00:35] <classvoid> onetinsoldier,  yea exactly - i found the package and downloaded but it's not a deb package it's a tar.gz and i can't figure out what to do with it lol
[00:35] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, gorm.app_1.2.8.orig.tar.gz
[00:35] <sebsebseb> R3cur51v3: however distro's  that use Gnome, don't always do what upstream does
[00:35] <duffydack> sebsebseb, I dont get peoples bitching about buttons.  for 1 thing, I use a decent window manager so never use them, and another.. you can Gosh What? change them.
[00:35] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: oh.. well, i can probably help you 'try' to install it, lol
[00:35] <R3cur51v3> Anyway, gotta run, thanks sebsebseb
[00:35] <sebsebseb> R3cur51v3: np
[00:36] <sebsebseb> duffydack: right, but it was a change that was done, without a proper reason
[00:36] <jcgs1> hi, is there anybody here who has pango-graphite installed?
[00:36] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, I think cause it's a dev package it's supposed to be source but god only knows where ubuntu what's me to put it lol I'm not new to linux or cmdline stuff just to ubuntu not installing stuff lol
[00:36] <sebsebseb> duffydack: that a feature will go on the right in 10.10 where the buttons are meant to be, no that's not a good proper erason
[00:36] <sebsebseb> reason
[00:36] <sebsebseb> duffydack: really they should have waited untill 10.10 and then done it with that new feature.
[00:37] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: roger. sounds good. well... unpack it somewhere. perhaps somewhere in your /home
[00:37] <duffydack> sebsebseb, true..  but in 10.04 I guess is 'get used to it for 6 months' :)
[00:37] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, if you extract the tar.gz file it just extracts a gorm-1.2.8 folder which doesn't help to explain where to put it or tell apt that it is there
[00:37] <classvoid> lol
[00:37] <sebsebseb> duffydack: well that was the idea, but quite a lot of people have come in here, asking how to put back on the right
[00:37] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: well, once you'vd unpacked it, then go into the gorm-1.2.8 folder
[00:38] <duffydack> sebsebseb, yes I have seen them.  I dont get the problem myself.  They are irrelevant with my compiz setup.
[00:38] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, o good readme's and install help... now to figure out how to get it to compile lol
[00:38] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: in there, is there a file named, 'configure'?
[00:38] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, no ./configure on this build - it just says make && make install in the install
[00:38] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: roger
[00:38] <sebsebseb> duffydack: even my older brother complained about buttons being on the left,  in the human clear looks theme, the brown theme.  after I upgraded other computer.  and things weren't set up properly.  Anyway off topic!
[00:38] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, but it crashes right away
[00:38] <duffydack> sebsebseb, like Mark said tho, this aint a democracy.  but you aint stuck with it either.. the one good side of it...
[00:39] <onetinsoldier> what crashes? the make?
[00:39] <osmosis> help, headphone jack not working on lucid.
[00:39] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: it won't compile? pastebin the error if you can
[00:40] <MACscr> is there anyway for me to shutdown ubuntu, but store all current open apps to memory or something? I basically need to boot back into windows, but i want ot be able to come back to ubuntu where i left off
[00:40] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, ok I think I got why's not working - it wants gnustep-make, gnustep-base (got that), gnustep-gui, and gnustep-back packages - crossing fingerrs that those install right lol
[00:40] <duffydack> osmosis, join the club
[00:40] <MACscr> obviously my internet connections would be lost, but you get the idea
[00:40] <sebsebseb> duffydack: also those buttons are in an odd order on the left
[00:40] <sebsebseb> duffydack: by default
[00:40] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: roger
[00:41] <coz_> MACscr,  sounds like some sort of seesion management   I have never tried
[00:41] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: i recommend you use 'checkinstall'... rather than 'make install' ...you'll probably need to install 'checkinstall' first if you want to use it. it makes a .deb debian package
[00:41] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, yea the only one I was missing was the gnustep-make and that's the one it wanted so crossing fingers for no compile errors lol
[00:42] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, o gotcha
[00:42] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: lol, roger
[00:42] <duffydack> sebsebseb, I dont use them, but I guess they are 'different' and probably hard for some to get used to.  With the wallpaper choice its clear ubuntu likes the mac.
[00:42] <prem> i use ubuntu netbook remix , the system does not prompt me for the password restarted ......
[00:42] <prem> what do i do
[00:42] <coz_> MACscr,   try here   http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/2.27/prefs-sessions.html.en
[00:42] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: just make sure you run checkinstall as root if you use it
[00:42] <dto> i can't add myself to a group. i check the little box under Users and Groups, then press Close, but when i reopen the dialog, I'm still unchecked on that group.
[00:42] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, I don't know why it's such a big prob to fix - all they gotta do is put the gorm.app file in the 64 bit repos right lol - ok installed checkinstall going to try that as root
[00:43] <sebsebseb> duffydack: Also Unity for the net book, it's clear they like the Mac, and so on.
[00:43] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, so make && checkinstall?
[00:43] <duffydack> sebsebseb, I do like that actually.. its not done yet but, hell its a lot better than UNR
[00:43] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, damn same error
[00:43] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: yeah. i don't know why it's not in the repos yet. it'll probably show up in there in a week or two. maybe. i don't know
[00:43] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: what's the error?
[00:44] <sebsebseb> duffydack: I haven't tried it in a vm yet, but from what I saw, looks interesting
[00:44] <duffydack> sebsebseb, on a netbook, it works a lot better..
[00:44] <sebsebseb> duffydack: well sure, but I also don't have a netbook
[00:44] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, GNUmakefile:29: /common.make: No such file or directory; GNUmakefile:179: /aggregate.make: No such file or directory; GNUmakefile:180: /application.make: No such file or directory
[00:45] <osmosis> if I create a new  /etc/modprobe.d/file.conf   , what command to I run to have it installed ?
[00:45] <mdpatrick> Im installling ubuntu on an asus 1000h netbook
[00:45] <mdpatrick> should I use one of the special netbook installs?
[00:45] <duffydack> sebsebseb, has a touch of gnome-shell about it with the show running windows feature.. good for non compiz people
[00:45] <mdpatrick> what difference does it make?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> mdpatrick: yes do UNR
[00:45] <sebsebseb> 1unr | mdpatrick
[00:45] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: hmm, don't know. those are in the gnustep-make package
[00:45] <sebsebseb> !unr | mdpatrick
[00:46] <sebsebseb> duffydack: Windows feature?
[00:46] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, I'm feeling I have to put it in some directory I guess - like the gnustep source or something
[00:47] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: perhaps
[00:47] <sebsebseb> duffydack: I never got that far with Compiz at all, basic effects that's it.  Also Gnome Shell apparantly isn't compatible with Compiz, but it has it's own  3D thing or whatever.   You made me go off topic in here :D
[00:47] <Luija1006> People whats your opinion about ubuntu installed in Macbook 13 inch?
[00:47] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, bah all I wanna play with gnustep to make apps lol
[00:47] <duffydack> sebsebseb, on a netbook if you click the top left icon (applications/places etc but is only an icon) normally it will show you the netbook interface, but with unity it shows you like a gnome-shell preview of windows
[00:48] <sebsebseb> duffydack: oh ok
[00:48] <classvoid> Netbook guys - how's the battery life with ubuntu installed?
[00:48] <Urda> Question: Anyway in *Ubuntu 10.04 SERVER* to change the color of the terminal from white on black?
[00:48] <sebsebseb> Urda: That's a good question for #ubuntu-server
[00:48] <Urda> sebsebseb: Well I did not know there was a channel for that! thanks
[00:49] <sebsebseb> Urda: np
[00:49] <duffydack> sebsebseb, I cant live without compiz on my main pc..  without it, its like using win7
[00:49] <mdpatrick> ubottu: Thanks
[00:49] <sebsebseb> !thanks | mdpatrick
[00:49] <classvoid> duffydack, I do love my 3d cube :)
[00:49] <mdpatrick> classvoid: Excellent at this point, but of course, not what advertised :)
[00:49] <mdpatrick> My laptop is old and I get ~2 hours out of it.
[00:50] <sebsebseb> where's the bot?
[00:50] <sebsebseb> slow again?
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: i'll download it here in a couple minutes and see if i can see anything
[00:50] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, thanks
[00:50] <duffydack> classvoid, cube is just eye candy,  not really productive...  having desktop wall, scale and expo set buttons is ftw
[00:50] <{coolface}> Poof!
[00:51] <HomeSlixe> nod @ duffydack
[00:51] <duffydack> with top left edge set to show desktop at a flick of the mouse, ftw
[00:51] <airtonix> duffydack, i keep telling my college teachers that they need the compiz zoom function on the machines they have connected to projectors
[00:51] <Luija1006> People whats your opinion about ubuntu installed in Macbook 13 inch?
[00:51] <airtonix> duffydack, they keep failing to understand how to properly present stuff on the ten foot interface
[00:51] <duffydack> airtonix, also, scroll wheel is set to zoom :)
[00:52] <histo> Is there some reason why you can't add a printer in lucid?  I add it and then it disapears.  Its a network printer hooked up to my server on CUPS.
[00:52] <histo> Printer worked fine before.
[00:52] <duffydack> airtonix, the zoom in compiz with linear filter/bicubic filter is superior to any graphical zoom in any app
[00:53] <classvoid> I'm not really productive but pressing ctrl+alt and switching between cube sides with different servers or code is fun lol
[00:53] <mdpatrick> Can ubuntu utilize 8gb of memory?
[00:53] <airtonix> duffydack, i prefer to have no filtering. onlyreason i use it is to see the pixel edges of graphics i create
[00:53] <histo> If I close the system > admin > printer dialog after adding the printer, it's gone.  There is no way to add a printer.
[00:53] <mdpatrick> I read online only 64 windows can do that
[00:53] <histo> mdpatrick: with the pae kernel
[00:53] <sebsebseb> mdpatrick: Ubuntu can be used with less than 8GB hard disk space
[00:53] <histo> mdpatrick: thats untrue linux can use it with the kernel compiled the appropriate way.
[00:53] <duffydack> I love having expo, scale, wall, zoom in out set as buttons, with no keys involved at all..
[00:53] <airtonix> histo, what happens when you run the printer config as root ?
[00:54] <alexanderk> hey
[00:54] <histo> airtonix: that could be its not asking for password.  whats the command to launch the app as root?
[00:54] <classvoid> histo, yea but his question was if ubuntu's default kernel I guess can utilize 8gb - I assume
[00:54] <exs> ih
[00:54] <exs> one question
[00:54] <histo> airtonix: nvm I found it i'm trying now
[00:54] <youknowwho> I have a questio: I've install vlc-nox and now the video plays on ascii colored art, is there a way to playback video the "normal" way?
[00:55] <sebsebseb> !ask | exs
[00:55] <airtonix> histo, don't mistaked policy-kit requests for passwords and gksudo requests for passwords
[00:55] <histo> classvoid: mdpatrick well in that case no the default ubuntu kernel cannot utilize 8gb. You ahve to use the server kernel to get that. Which you can install from the repos
[00:55] <sebsebseb> exs: yes go on, what question?
[00:55] <duffydack> youknowwho, thats a feature you have to enable...cool as it is, just change back to xv
[00:55] <histo> airtonix: well then how would you suggest I add the printer?
 Why don't you install the normal vlc package?
[00:56] <classvoid> histo, is there a diff between the 64bit kernel and the 32bit kernel on max memory or just between server and desktop?
[00:56] <exs> its about thunderbird. my inbox file is one gb great. thats not possible. i guess thunderbird doesnt move emails really moving in the gui
[00:56] <airtonix> histo, but for the record, i have a standard lucid install i tried at college last week and was able to print to samba and ipp printers.
[00:56] <histo> airtonix: I can't click add printer either with gksu system-config-printer or just clicking on it in admin
[00:56] <youknowwho> I don't want a gui...
[00:56] <histo> airtonix: Yeah somethign is wrong here I just isntalled the other day.
[00:56] <sebsebseb> exs: uhmm
[00:56] <youknowwho> I had mplayer installed withput the gui...
[00:56] <sebsebseb> exs: don't know
[00:57] <histo> airtonix: the add button is greyed out. i have to click connect and then choose my cups erver then the printer shows up but it won't stay. If the app is closed the printer is gone.
[00:57] <ubuntuCEO> hi it is me again, i still got problem with my alsamixer
[00:57] <airtonix> histo, try reading the page for cups maybe you could remove cups and reinstall it. use synaptics to complety remove it. but you'd need to be sure which pacakages to totally remove
[00:57] <ubuntuCEO> i still have no sound :(
[00:57] <gdm_> ß
 How should it display graphics without x support?
[00:57] <iromli> is there a bug on pidgin-musictracker for rhythmbox? i don't see any status change even i have been activated the plugin
[00:58] <airtonix> histo, wait. you click connect, then your server then the printer shows up without manually adding it ?
[00:58] <youknowwho> oh, i thought it was like mplayer-nogui
[00:58] <histo> airtonix: correct
[00:58] <hihihi100> hi
[00:58] <hihihi100> GEM leak
[00:58] <hihihi100> I need help with that
[00:58] <youknowwho> you're right I didn't think it through
[00:58] <hihihi100> GEM leak
[00:58] <FloodBot2> hihihi100: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:58] <hihihi100> 1.4 GLX
[00:58] <airtonix> histo, and i suppose you right click the printer and do something like "add printer" ?
[00:59] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: well, i just installed a bunch of gnustep stuff
[00:59] <ubuntuCEO> how to install alsamixer or to check if i have the right sound driver?
[00:59] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, lol yea there's a lot
[00:59] <onetinsoldier> yeah
[00:59] <onetinsoldier> it's actually still unpacking
[00:59] <youknowwho> so to use vlc and be able to playback videos the "normal" way i have to install vlc with the gui and then use it from the command line?
[00:59] <histo> airtonix: after I connect ot he server I can add it, select a driver, make it default etc... But it still won't show on any application as being availibe. Also when I go back in admin > printers its gone. its no longer connected to the server.
[01:00] <hihihi100> i need help with this: grep: /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/gem_objects: No such file or directory
[01:00] <histo> airtonix: I'm installing a bunch of updates right now. Lot of printer stuff. Perhaps its a bug thats been fixed since release.
[01:00] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, I installed gnustep-base,gnustep-make,gnustep-gui,gnustep-back - then tried gnustep-devel when I got the gorm.app error
[01:00] <airtonix> histo, wait its still not clear how you are adding the printer. there is two ways.
[01:00] <Luija1006> Hello please I need help while I was installing Ubuntu desktop my laptop got discharged and the installation was interrumped, now they are some missing dependencies in some programs, what i can do to fix this?
[01:01] <mickster04> Luija1006: in terminal try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:02] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, then I downloaded gorm-1.2.8.tar.gz from an online repository
 Try calling it like this: vlc -Irc
[01:02] <airtonix> histo, you connect to the remote computer (the one having your printer) and then you see the printers that computer has connected. at this point do you 1) click the add button in the toolbar, or 2) do something with the printer icon you see that has appeared in the printer list ?
[01:02] <mickster04> Luija1006:it will prolly tell u what to do to fix it, alternatively reinstall
[01:02] <m_tadeu> hi...is there any development documentation on the ubuntuone daemon?
[01:02] <sebsebseb> !one | m_tadeu
[01:02] <DIL> on samba restart getting the following errors in part - Unknown parameter encountered: "passdb backend"
[01:02] <DIL> Ignoring unknown parameter "passdb backend"
[01:02] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, ok I'm looking at the make file - include $(GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES)/common.make is what is says - now why can't it find that lol
[01:03] <airtonix> histo, might i suggest you expose cups on your server via avahi?
[01:03] <histo> airtonix: correct the behavior you described is whats happening.
[01:03] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: hehe... you're looking at exactly the same thing i ma right now! :-)
[01:03] <onetinsoldier> am*
[01:04] <airtonix> histo, what happens when you connect to localhost instead
[01:04] <histo> airtonix: there is nothing wrong withthe server. It works perfectly for other clients prior to lucid. I'm thinking its just a bug. 200+mb of updates
[01:04] <histo> airtonix: there is nothing on localhost
[01:04] <airtonix> histo, thats because you have no printers
[01:04] <histo> airtonix: correct
[01:04] <histo> airtonix: I'm saying I can't add them.
[01:04] <airtonix> histo, on localhost.... can you click add when at localhost ?
[01:04] <youknowwho> markus_: still ascii art
[01:04] <histo> airtonix: No I can't click add on localhost
[01:04] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, ah where is include GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES defined - it's not anywhere in the preamble lol
[01:05] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, or in the make file lol
[01:05] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: roger... guess we need to put it in there
 Guess you have to deinstall vlc-nox first and install the normal package
[01:05] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: /usr/share/GNUstep/Makefiles
[01:05] <chd> so I installed virtualbox but how do I run it?
[01:05] <airtonix> histo, what about using this in the connect text field : /var/run/cups/cups.sock
[01:05] <youknowwho> markus_: yes, it seems like that, thanks for the help anyway
 Click it in the Menu???
[01:06] <chd> not showing up
[01:06] <chd> do I have to restart?
 try logging out and back it
[01:06] <markus_> in
[01:07] <Omen_20> Leo is almost too good at this
[01:07] <histo> airtonix: after updates i will try
[01:07] <A_nd3P> I'm writing a little python script and I need to execute it through menu which I get clicking on a file right mouse button. How can I pass a path of the file which I selected to my script?
[01:08] <airtonix> A_nd3P, it tells you if you select show scripts folder
[01:08] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, bah why is it constantly trying to make this more difficult
 This is a nonprogrammers channel. You will not get help here. Imho
[01:09] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: i don't know.. you get the same thing i did? make: *** No rule to make target `/common.make'.  Stop.
[01:09] <youknowwho> ok people, installing vlc, thanks for everything, bye
[01:10] <A_nd3P> I can make my program appear on the menu, but I don't know how to pass the path of selected file :-S
[01:10] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, nah I added to the top of GNUmakefile: GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES = /usr/share/GNUstep/Makefiles
[01:10] <airtonix> A_nd3P, i just told you how to find that out!
[01:10] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: yes.. so did i
[01:10] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, hmmm I wonder why you got the same error
[01:10] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: then i ran 'make' again
[01:10] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, well mine worked - got up to Compiling file NSScanner+OCHeaderParser.m ...
[01:11] <A_nd3P> oh, sorry
[01:11] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: ohh... hmm
[01:11] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, then exited on gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1obj': execvp: No such file or directory; make[3]: *** [obj/NSScanner+OCHeaderParser.m.o] Error 1 && make[2]: *** [internal-library-all_] Error 2; make[1]: *** [libGormObjCHeaderParser.all.library.variables] Error 2 && make: *** [internal-all] Error 2
[01:12] <mcl0vin> when i use top, i have 178 sleeping process ?!! how can i get rid of that
[01:12] <histo> mcl0vin: they are fine
[01:12] <classvoid> mcl0vin, yea I got 165 - it's all good lol
[01:12] <histo> mcl0vin: they sleep when they are not being used
[01:12] <mcl0vin> :)
[01:12] <histo> mcl0vin: that way your processes your using have more mem and cpu
[01:13] <classvoid> mcl0vin, wait what's a zombie lol
[01:13] <lauren_> There was a spot where things like transmission and rythembox would "hide" with a small icon on the task bar when I closed them (convienent). I accidentaly hit "remove from panel" so can someone tell me which item that was so I can add it back?
[01:13] <histo> mcl0vin: classvoid now zombied processes are different
[01:13] <classvoid> histo, well I only have one but I assume I should not be concerned...
[01:14] <histo> lauren_: notification area
[01:14] <iflema> lauren_ indicator applet
[01:14] <airtonix> A_nd3P, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/180039/screenshots/ubuntu/2010-05-17-094128_1920x1848_scrot.png
[01:14] <xangua> lauren_: indicator applet
[01:14] <histo> lauren_: the place that holds rythmbox and those apss is the notification area
[01:14] <histo> lauren_: the indicator applet is different
[01:14] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: ok, got my compile to run... think i just got same error as you.
[01:15] <iflema> lauren_ add indicator applet to the panel
[01:15] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, so now to locate what execvp/cclobj is for, from I guess - this is not fun lol?
[01:15] <lauren_> histo, it was the indicator applet
[01:15] <lauren_> thanks
[01:15] <hihihi100> hi again
[01:15] <histo> lauren_: my bad I had them backwards
[01:15] <hihihi100> IBUS this time
[01:15] <hihihi100> In the combo box, I can see the installed languages, and change the inupt method, but there is no way I can see the icons that are supossed to be on the left
[01:15] <lauren_> histo, no problem
[01:15] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: nope. i didn't get the same error as you. i think my compile might have gotten further before bombing out
[01:15] <xangua> histo: indicator applet does in lucid
[01:15] <A_nd3P> airtonix: I assume u use kde? I'm gnome user and I don't have such menu option
[01:15] <hihihi100> for instance, in japanese anthy, there is supossed to be a crown
[01:15] <hihihi100> there is no crown
[01:16] <airtonix> A_nd3P, no. i use gnome.
[01:16] <airtonix> A_nd3P, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/180039/screenshots/ubuntu/nautilus-scripts-variables.png
[01:16] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, oh what did you get up to lol - mine stopped on library libGormObjCHeaderParser
[01:16] <airtonix> A_nd3P, are you using nautilus-actions or just plain nautilus scripts ?
[01:16] <A_nd3P> plain
[01:17] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/434631/
[01:17] <airtonix> A_nd3P, well you should have 1) ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts  , and 2) that menu entry
[01:17] <A_nd3P> maybe there's another way, cuz I've tried nautilus variables with no luck
[01:18] <CkhiKuzad> yet again, i have a question. but this one requires no messing around in GRUB! :D
[01:18] <CkhiKuzad> is it possible to make virtualbox install an OS that it is running to a physical partition?
[01:18] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: maybe yours got further.. i'm not sure, lol
[01:18] <mickster04> CkhiKuzad: apparently i heard it is
[01:18] <airtonix> A_nd3P, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/180039/screenshots/ubuntu/Screenshot-nautilus-scripts%20-%20File%20Browser.png
[01:18] <histo> CkhiKuzad: I'm pretty sure you can
[01:19] <mickster04> CkhiKuzad: apparently, i heard it is*
[01:19] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, nah I don't think so - *shakes fist at the gorn*
[01:19] <histo> CkhiKuzad: there is #vbox  for virtualbox supprot. I know i've booted xp off a physical partition before.
[01:19] <CkhiKuzad> mickster04 and histo: i need to know how
[01:19] <CkhiKuzad> oh thanks
[01:19] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: i hear it. i'm starting to mix up some gunpowder
[01:20] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, which os do you plan on booting in your VM ?
[01:20] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, and your cannon out of bamboo or something lol?
[01:20] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: our version of gnustep might be too new for this source
[01:20] <CkhiKuzad> i am going to boot ubuntu 10.04 to install it
[01:21] <CkhiKuzad> airtonix**
[01:21] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, yea that's what I was thinking...
[01:21] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, how am I supposed to code in gnustep without a gnustep devel package lol
[01:21] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: now.... you know why it's not in the repo yet
[01:21] <kerdal> Looking for any games that can be played with minimal diffuculty of installing
[01:21] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, ok just as long as you dont plan on booting a windows system partition in a virtual machine.... windows will think its been moved to another machine and begin asking you for verification all over again
[01:22] <kerdal> any suggestion?
[01:22] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, indeed
[01:22] <airtonix> CkhiKuzad, read this and see if it applies to your desires : http://blarts.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/how-to-run-virtualbox-using-a-physical-partition-using-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/
[01:22] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, so what are you upto?
[01:22] <A_nd3P> airtonix: ok, I've added one script to the hidden nautilus scripts folder. Let me check if I can get that variable to my script
[01:23] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: nothing much. just got done with putting some stuff in the shed and then eating before i came upon you and your gnustep problem :)
[01:23] <airtonix> A_nd3P, did you open the "more details" expander?
[01:24] <vock> SAMBA question: If I made my smb.conf through gadmin-samba, and am pretty sure all the user names, netbios names and workgroup names are right and proper, probably means any problems I'm having connecting are firewall related? anything else anyone can think of?
[01:24] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, o wait I think i found what caused my error
[01:24] <histo> airtonix: yeap it was a bug. Updates solved the issue.
[01:24] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: oh? roger
[01:25] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, well I think - that error is like you don't have an objc compiler - crossing fingers...
[01:25] <airtonix> histo, although im not using remote printers from other cups servers, i didnt have problems of not being able to add printers to localhost
[01:25] <A_nd3P> airtonix: yes, now trying to make use of it :)
[01:25] <zaida> hi all, I have a problem with my microphone I have two audio card and don't work for capture audio here is my settings http://nopaste.info/f9c64cefff.html please help me
[01:25] <histo> airtonix: after the printer updates that were installed I can add to localhost now as wel..
[01:26] <onetinsoldier> coldboot: could be it. i don't have that installed
[01:26] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, I hear you lol
[01:27] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: oh wait... it looks like i do have that installed.
[01:27] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, o so that's why you got farther
[01:27] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: yep.. i have it installed
[01:28] <harovali> hi !  As soon as I load OOCalc trying to 'copy' a cell or block of them, terminates OOCalc with a com::sun::star::ucb::InteractiveAugmentedIOException . In another user in the same machine , it does not happen. If I delete the former's user profile, OOo recreates it when I load OOCalc and if I 'copy' again, it breaks the same.
[01:28] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, ok well this is being a pain - I'm thinking now it's because of not having the rest of the source
[01:29] <A_nd3P> airtonix: it's working, thank you allot
[01:29] <CkhiKuzad> a partition i want to install an OS to is my second partition on my master drive, what would that be as a /dev/hda format? would it be /dev/hda1 or hda2?
[01:29] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, is there a way to install gnustep-devel and ignore that one package and just place this where it's supposed to go
[01:29] <dunas> Having an issue with flash player. It's not registering my clicks on anything. Any known fix? I was hoping this'd be dealt with between 9.10 and 10.04
[01:29] <dunas> 10.04 x64, sorry, meant to add
[01:30] <classvoid> dunas, nah it's a common problem - it's alot more stable in with 10.04 though on 64 on my computer anyway
[01:30] <histo> dunas: yeah known issue
[01:30] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: i think so... it's a bit of fiddling. i can try it and then let you know how i did it
[01:30] <classvoid> dunas, it has something to do with 64bit flash being crappy I believe
[01:30] <dunas> It hasn't crashed, but it's almost unusable like this :(
[01:30] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, k thanks brb
[01:31] <studentz> dunas try this link http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html
[01:31] <exs> hi again
[01:31] <zaida_> hi
[01:32] <exs> ive deinstalled evolution with apt-get purge evolution. now i want the notifynotice use to handle with thunderbird. is this possible?
[01:32] <dunas> studentz, I'll give it a shot
[01:32] <dunas> Worst case scenario, it doesn't work either
[01:32] <studentz> It is working in my pc
[01:32] <xangua> studentz dunas better to add the PPA https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash flash 64 bits
[01:32] <exs> ive tested already flash64bit will function under ubuntu 10.4
[01:33] <studentz> sorry I'm saying in my box,
[01:33] <CkhiKuzad> a partition i want to install an OS to is my second partition on my master drive, what would that be as a /dev/hda format? would it be /dev/hda1 or hda2?
[01:33] <exs> but whats with my ndicator-applet?
[01:33] <studentz> xangua , yep that is other way .
[01:33] <histo> CkhiKuzad: /dev/hda2    but you can double check with sudo fdisk -l
[01:33] <histo> CkhiKuzad: will show you all the partitions
[01:34] <evon> how does one figure out the uuid of a specific device?
[01:35] <histo> evon: blkid
[01:35] <evon> histo, is that something i type in the terminal?
[01:36] <histo> evon: yes sudo blkid   will list the uuid's
[01:36] <chd> is there a program available for ubuntu that's similar to symantec's "ghost" I want to make a mirror copy of a networked computer and store the image on my pc. anything like that?
[01:37] <evon> histo, can you give me an example of using uuid in fstab please
[01:37] <Tekno> chd: clonezilla
[01:37] <chd> thank you Tekno
[01:38] <classvoid> ok back wanted to see who got kicked off survivor - figures lol
[01:39] <chd> Tekno, if I'm working on ubuntu 9.10 and the computer I want to clone is windows xp, this will work for that too correct?
[01:39] <histo> evon: what do you mean?
[01:39] <histo> !fstab | evon
[01:39] <evon> histo, i want to use the uuid in fstab rather than /dev/sdh1, but i don't know the syntax
[01:40] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: hello. i'm still working on it :-)
[01:40] <histo> evon: that page from ubottu shows examples
[01:40] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, no prob lol
[01:40] <folsom> I want to use my ipod touch with a windows install running in KVM, but I cannot get the USB to work . . . any pointers?
[01:40] <histo> evon: the help.ubuntu.com/community/fstab
[01:40] <classvoid> dunas, mine works ok - sometimes it'll glitch out and speed up the video and no sound or something like that with 64bit flash
[01:40] <Devrethman> evon /dev/disks/by-uuid/whatever
[01:41] <classvoid> dunas, the only real problem I have is at full screen with anything above 640x480 - it gets cranky with 720p and 1080p youtube vids - like 1 frame a sec
[01:41] <airtonix> evon,  ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ -oa
[01:42]  * airtonix thinks thats best way to get uuid of a drive so far
[01:42] <evon> airtonix, thanks but i got the uuid already.  Now i just want to know how to use it in the fstab
[01:43] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, always remember -> apt-get -> This APT has Super Cow Powers.
[01:43] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: ok, lol. i will
[01:43] <airtonix> evon, just be careful that blkid will read the uuid from fstab instead. which means if you put an incorrect uuid in the fstab then blkid will happily report that one
[01:43] <airtonix> evon, instead of /dev/blah you put UUID=xxx.yyy.zzz
[01:44] <evon> airtonix, thanks that's exactly what i want
[01:44] <airtonix> evon, ie : UUID=77f37e19-6a98-499f-8355-542e323786a6 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
[01:44] <airtonix> evon, or what ever the UUID is of your partition/block device
[01:45] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, this is not reassuring either lol https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-March/030509.html
[01:45] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, gorm.app is on that list lol
[01:45] <Devrethman> I'm trying to install ubuntu 10.04 on my desktop, and when I boot the liveCD, my screen just displays garbage
[01:46] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: i'll have a look at that in a minute.. thanks
[01:47] <airtonix> Devrethman, do you get to the boot menu ?
[01:47] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: i got it installed without the gorm.app installed
[01:47] <Devrethman> Yeah, and as soon as it tries to go past that, (like, when it would normally display the progress bar or whateer) it tweaks out
[01:47] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, ok I think I figured it out - http://www.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gorm.app/ - amd64 package and then what you did so then w00t hopefully
[01:47] <evon> airtonix, is this line correct? "UUID=46F40811F40805C1    /media/datadisk ntfs    defaults 0 0"
[01:48] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: hang on.. let me look at that new link you just put up
[01:48] <airtonix> evon, do you have this partition already mounted ?
[01:48] <jteknet> I'm trying to get KVM bridged so that I can run servers that are accessible from the internet. I'm surprised there hasn't been a script or even a program that works with KVM that will bridge your network connection like VMWare does? Why doesn't KVM allow you to bridge within the program anyway?
[01:49] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: no. i brute forced installed without the gorm.app. but i'll grab that .deb now
[01:50] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, yea I know lol I just didn't want you to feel bad about all that work  lol
[01:52] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: lol.. ok, well. i threw out all the work. then installed the .deb you linked to... then gnustep-devel installed fine
[01:53] <rossy> hey guys, whats the name of the ubuntu spanish channel?
[01:53]  * ogen is really really hoping for help on this FREEZE issue. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/eNaPLec2  -- 9.10
[01:53] <ugliefrog> does anyone know how to change the colors in pidgin
[01:53] <compaq> anyone a video expert.  i cannot start desktop effects
[01:53] <ogen> !es
[01:53] <xangua> #ubuntu-es rossy
[01:53] <evon> airtonix, yes
[01:53] <rossy> thanks!
[01:54] <xangua> ugliefrog: change the color of what¿
[01:54] <Salvad1> Hello. Is there some way to set the system to not ask for a password after I resume the computer from Sleep mode?
[01:54]  * ogen pats self on back. First time I ever did a !
[01:54] <ugliefrog> xangua- the background and foreground colors
[01:54] <daveWilky> hi In software sources in ubuntu 10.04 should i have it set on sever for united kingdom or Main Server?
[01:54] <Babalabon> When was ubuntu 10.4 released? Or is not released YET?
[01:54] <folsom> Any pointers for using usb in a kvm guest?
[01:54] <maco> Babalabon: 29 april
[01:55] <Flannel> Babalabon: 10.04 was released in April, so it's been out for a few weeks now
[01:55] <maco> Babalabon: if not yest it wouldnt be .04 :P
[01:55] <rossy> hey there, I just installed Lucid and all is good, but I cant get the scrolling wheel of my USB mouse to work. Is there any fix for that?
[01:55] <ogen> Help me I am too often frozen. I dont know why. I'm going to cry. There aint no rhyme for frozen/silver/orange.
[01:56] <rossy> hey there, I just installed Lucid and all is good, but I cant get the scrolling wheel of my USB mouse to work. Is there any fix for that?
[01:58] <Zippo> hey guys! does anyone know if its possible to install the 32bit version of flash on ubuntu 64bit?
[01:58] <rossy> hey there, I just installed Lucid and all is good, but I cant get the scrolling wheel of my USB mouse to work. Is there any fix for that?
[01:59] <xangua> !repeat | rossy
[01:59] <erisco> I am connecting over LAN in Red Alert 3. The Windows computer can see me in the game lobby, and read my messages, but my Ubuntu computer cannot see the Windows computer in the lobby, or any messages
[01:59] <erisco> and ideas on what could be going wrong?
[01:59] <dunas> Okay, easiest way to remove the flash player that comes in the nonfree package?
[01:59] <xangua> Zippo: install 64 bit flash, yu can use this PPA https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[01:59] <arand> Zippo: That's what's normally done anyways, through a wrapper (ndiswrapper afaik)
[02:00] <arand> Zippo: And that is also why flash is comonly bad on 64bit.
[02:01] <lasmeu> Does Empathy MSN video/voice work yet?
[02:01] <Zippo> xangua thaks for helping, but is that package the alpha version of flash 64bit?
[02:01] <daveWilky> hi is my text visible in here??
[02:01] <tonsofpcs> nope
[02:01] <tonsofpcs> it's only visible there
[02:01] <Zippo> arand what do you mean?
[02:01] <xangua> lasmeu: no, only for xmpp i believe
[02:02] <daveWilky> lol ty ton... to funny...
[02:02] <sxycodebabe> I upgraded to ubuntu 10.04 from 9.10 and i had no problem before with 9.10 but now my screen glitches every so often with 10.04
[02:02] <lasmeu> xangua: Which IM clients have the feature?
[02:03] <xangua> lasmeu: pidgin, empathy, not sure if kopete also or other xmmp cliente
[02:03] <sxycodebabe> can anybody help me?
[02:03] <lasmeu> xangua: Pidgin doesn't.
[02:03] <sxycodebabe> please
[02:04] <lasmeu> xangua: I mean MSN webcam support.
[02:04] <xangua> lasmeu: pidgin supports voice and video for xmpp since 2.6
[02:04] <daveWilky> in software sources is it better to download from united kingdom server or main server??
[02:04] <xangua> ooh that, emesene, amsn maybe¿¿
[02:06] <ShawnRisk> Everytime I wakup from sleep on my laptop, Ubuntu 10.04 freezes.  How do I fix this?
[02:07] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, sorry my dls conked out *shakes fist at verizon run by Gorns*
[02:07] <classvoid> *dsl
[02:08] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: lol, roger
[02:08] <dominicdinada> how can i keep these files installed it keeps trying to remove them after i removed a crappy piece of software http://pastebin.com/zcxHkNSh
[02:08] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: lol.. ok, well. i threw out all the work. then installed the .deb you linked to... then gnustep-devel installed fine :-)
[02:08] <cobra3> can somebody help me fix my screen from glitching?
[02:08] <cobra3> I upgraded to ubuntu 10.04 from 9.10 and i had no problem before with 9.10 but now my screen glitches every so often with 10.04
[02:09] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: now, what i wonder is, why is the package in an ubuntu archive repo or whatever that was, and not in lucid's repo?
[02:09] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, I know that's what i was thinking
[02:09] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, our minds clearly have some sort of vulcan mindmeld going on
 I already gave up with upgrading. It just NEVER works :(
[02:09] <cobra3> yea
[02:10] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: hehe, yeah... no doubt :)
[02:10] <classvoid> markus_, what was your upgrading problems?
[02:10] <cobra3> i think i might switch to mint or reinstall ubuntu 9.10 my main concern is getting my wireless NIC to work
[02:10] <chd> has anyone tried running sc2 beta on ubuntu 9.10?
[02:10] <dunas> what's the easiest way of removing the flashplayer that ubuntu-restricted-extra installs on x64?
[02:10] <demifuror> hey guys, can anyone recommend me a book on ubuntu? preferably one that uses lucid for examples? basically, i want to become what some would call a "pro"
[02:10] <demifuror> at linux. i want to understand all about modding the software im running, all about the different layers of the operating system, i want to be able to handle problems on my own
[02:10] <demifuror> instead of running off to google every 5 minutes...
[02:10] <FloodBot2> demifuror: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 There are always issues. Different ones. I avoid having data on my harddisk now. So installing is pretty quick thanks to ubuntu :)
[02:12] <classvoid> cobra3, yea I feel you - what nic are you running? I only have problems with my linksys when I upgrade the kernel - everytime I have to reinstall the driver, just like my proprietary nvidia driver for
[02:12] <dominicdinada> how can i keep these files installed it keeps trying to remove them after i removed a crappy piece of software http://pastebin.com/zcxHkNSh
[02:12] <cobra3> I got a brodcom or something
[02:12] <ShawnRisk> can anyone help me?
[02:12] <cobra3> I will have to look up how to find it again
[02:12] <chrisbdaemon> is there a way to install a previous version of a package with apt-get if its never been installed?
[02:13] <classvoid> cobra3, my linksys prob runs on the same broadcom driver lol
[02:13] <cobra3> But Linux just doesn't support laptops reall good yet
[02:13] <markus_> !ask | ShanRisk
[02:13] <cobra3> lol
[02:13] <classvoid> cobra3, I was using b43-fwcutter I believe to install the driver
 I had luck with all my recent laptops. Everything just works. Even my special keys I have on them :)
[02:14] <Scunizi> classvoid: not sure if it will work.. but typically does with the nvidia driver.. install dkms
[02:14] <chrisbdaemon> I'm having some trouble with an application that isn't working correctly.. I had an older version installed an another box that worked fine but I can't get the current one working on my new ubuntu box. is there a way to install an old version of an application?
[02:14] <cobra3> you know whats weird, I got my internal NIC to work after trying to install an external one that I have not even been able get to work on windows
[02:14] <xplicit313[ICAN]> If anyone has time and can help me with a Samba issue xp/ubuntu 9.10 share please PLEASE query me before I go insane =)
[02:14] <chrisbdaemon> on a new bo
[02:14] <chrisbdaemon> box*
[02:14] <cobra3> I thought it was the external NIC working intill I pulled it out
[02:14] <Scunizi> classvoid: after that you might have to install the nvidia driver with the next kernel upgrade but you shouldn't after that
[02:15] <Babalabon> Im running windows7 right now, if I want a dual boot with latest ubuntu, how do I do that?
[02:15] <cobra3> well markus I'm glad it works for you
[02:15] <Scunizi> xplicit313[ICAN]: do it in the channel so others can learn.. what's up with your samba setup?
 Insert the cd and restart. Ubuntu will take care of everything
[02:15] <classvoid> Scunizi, I'm running dkms - I just meant that everytime the kernel upgrades, since I install the newest driver off nvidia, everytime I gotta reinstall it
[02:15] <Babalabon> OK
[02:16] <Scunizi> classvoid: I do to.. unfortunately.. so I just keep a copy in the downloads folder
[02:16] <xplicit313[ICAN]> I had Samba set up to share with my windows xp home box a while ago. Haven't had to use it in a while. I am trying to use it now, and it will not connect. I have restarted the Samba deamon to no avail
[02:16] <xplicit313[ICAN]> I checked with the windows side of things to make sure it was all correct
[02:16] <kuhliefumden> hey guys, is anyone having ubuntu (9.10 or 10.04) running inside a vmware virtual machine and having comparably bad performance? i installed the vmware tools already, but this is frustrating (host: win7 x64, 8gb ram, core i7 860)
[02:16] <classvoid> Scunizi, lol yea mine's in my root folder at all times so I can drop to a shell and just install it
[02:17] <Scunizi> xplicit313[ICAN]: so you can't see a windows share from the linux side?
 I could not even get it installed :( So I used an older version.
[02:17] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: same thing here. if kernel is upgraded to new version, i have to reinstall ati fglrx driver. it's normal
[02:17] <xplicit313[ICAN]> I can see the windows "server" but It will not connect to it
[02:18] <classvoid> xplicit313[ICAN], both have the same workgroup?
[02:18] <kuhliefumden> markus: installation was not the problem (except the missing keyboard recognition after upgrading to 10.04)
[02:18] <xplicit313[ICAN]> yes both have the same workgroup of the name "workgroup"
[02:18] <classvoid> hmmmm
[02:18] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: you use ms windows at all?
[02:18] <studentz> xplicit313[ICAN] what findsmb command shows?
[02:18] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, yea I got xp 64-bit for games
[02:19] <xplicit313[ICAN]> it just shows my Ubuntu not windows machine via findsmb
[02:19] <Scunizi> xplicit313[ICAN]: that's typically not a setup issue on the linux side.. unless samba isn't installed.. if there's no answer here try ##windows
[02:19] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, I have a trial version of windows 7 - but's it's sneaky, and somehow when I installed it, it radically slowed my xp system
[02:19] <Scunizi> xplicit313[ICAN]: xp home or pro?
[02:19] <xplicit313[ICAN]> xp home
[02:19] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: oh... hmm, roger
[02:20] <Scunizi> xplicit313[ICAN]: yea.. with home sometimes you have to jump through a couple of hoops to make it visible.. check in ##windows.. just mention that your shares on xp home aren't visible on the network..
[02:20] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, as much as that sound's ridiculous - something about dual booting both confuses xp and causes it to lag - no idea why though lol
[02:20] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: weird
[02:20] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, Why are you a windows fan?
[02:20] <xplicit313[ICAN]> thanks scunizi i'll try that and hope for the best =)
[02:21] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, I think it has something to do with windows 7 boot loader - it's different then xps
[02:22] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: no... just curious i guess. not a windows fan really. i only use it for gaming also
[02:22] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: anyway... you got your gnustep development environment installed now i hope ;-)
[02:22] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, what do you use usually play? Steam is aggrevating in xp 64 for some reason, works 50% of the time - not the games just the launcher
[02:23] <onetinsoldier> classvoid: we should talk about this in #ubuntu-offtopic really
[02:23] <Scunizi> I have a Java Console window open that won't close/exit.. doing pidof java and killall java doesn't make it go away.. how do I make it go away?
[02:23] <classvoid> onetinsoldier, concur lol
[02:23] <ShawnRisk> seems no one really wants to help me :(
[02:23] <histo> Scunizi: hit alt+f2 and run xkill then just click on it
[02:23] <histo> Scunizi: or you can find the pid and kill the pid
[02:24] <Scunizi> ShawnRisk: you have to ask a question.. not "Will someone help me" ... be more specific
[02:24] <taita> hi, I've just entered ubuntu and every window don't have the top bar, the one with the close window button and the other two
[02:24] <Scunizi> histo: that did it... :)  Thanks!
[02:24] <ShawnRisk> Scunizi: I did ask a question before I left this channel.
[02:24] <Scunizi> histo: couldn't find the pid using pidof :(
[02:24] <Darkquarterer> taita:  ALT + F2 and run metacity
[02:24] <histo> Scunizi: ps aux | grep java
[02:25] <tony_> New to Ubuntu, video problem. Please help!
[02:25] <histo> !ask | tony_
[02:25] <xplicit313[ICAN]> one last question which would also resolve my issue if I could get this to work. I have a western digital 120gig my passport external drive. It will show up, mount, and allow me to view the first page. As soon as i try to navigate, it unmounts and remounts continuously
[02:26] <demifuror> guys can someone tell me the best book to learn about ubuntu from?
[02:26] <Darkquarterer> what is the WD formatted as, what filesystem
[02:26] <xplicit313[ICAN]> ntfs I believe
[02:26] <Darkquarterer> do you have the ntfs-3g drive installed
[02:26] <Darkquarterer> driver*
[02:26] <ShawnRisk> Everytime I wakeup my laptop from suspend, the laptop freezes using Ubuntu 10.04.
[02:26] <tony_> Not familiar with this chatting at all
[02:26] <xplicit313[ICAN]> I have no idea o.O
[02:27] <tony_> Where can I get help to solve video problem
[02:27] <Scunizi> ShawnRisk: I don't have the answer but typically it's because your swap isn't large enough.... suspend is implemented differently on various machines.
[02:27] <sebsebseb> !details | tony_
[02:27] <ShawnRisk> Scunizi: how do I fix this?
[02:28] <ShawnRisk> I am using Dell Inspiron 1501
[02:28] <Scunizi> ShawnRisk: someone else more versed in laptops or the suspend function will have to pick this up. Sorry I don't know.
[02:28] <tony_> Ubuntu 10.4 netbook. video does not move smothly
[02:28] <Kentrel> Are the user privileges of an MySQL database related to Linux privileges. Is there a danger in just using the root account to connect, if I'm the only user?
[02:28] <MariusAZ> Is there a repo where you can get Maverick Meerkat?
[02:28] <sebsebseb> tony_: video does not move smothly?
[02:28] <sebsebseb> MariusAZ: no
[02:28] <chd> is ubuntu already setup to be a samba server?
[02:28] <ShawnRisk> Scunizi: no one will I know.
[02:29] <Darkquarterer> What netbook is it? Is it one with the new Intel N450 chip?
[02:29] <sebsebseb> !maverick | MariusAZ
[02:29] <MariusAZ> So you guys have no bleeding repo?  How does development take place on it then?
[02:29] <Scunizi> ShawnRisk: ask again making the question concise and on one line.. do that every 5 minutes
[02:29] <maco> MariusAZ: current development version is maverick
[02:29] <MariusAZ> Ahh
[02:29] <sebsebseb> MariusAZ: there are daily builds now, but alpha 1 will be on the 3rd June
[02:29] <MariusAZ> Is there a public repo for that?
[02:29] <maco> MariusAZ: i dont know if "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" will work yet
[02:29] <MariusAZ> Maverick?
[02:29] <maco> MariusAZ: yes of course :)
[02:29] <ShawnRisk> Scunizi: spam :P
[02:30] <sebsebseb> maco: and #ubuntu+1 is the channel for it
[02:30] <sebsebseb> maco:  no not you
[02:30] <sebsebseb> MariusAZ: see above ^
[02:30] <steven__> Why do you want to use Maverick? Its in heavy development atm
[02:30] <MariusAZ> Ahh, cool, thank you
[02:30] <MariusAZ> :)
[02:30] <maco> steven__: to help with development maybe?
[02:30] <steven__> if you want bleeding edge, use Debian sid, or something
[02:30] <steven__> perhaps
[02:30] <Scunizi> ShawnRisk: not every 5 minutes.. there's people all over the world in here coming and going.. if you asked every minute it would be spam
[02:30] <MariusAZ> I'm just wanting to work on patches/packages/etc
[02:30] <tony_> Movie is working but it stop and start
[02:30] <maco> MariusAZ: if do-release-upgrade isnt ready for it yet, you can modify sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:30] <maco> steven__: dont discourage volunteers ;-)
[02:30] <ShawnRisk> Scunizi: okay
[02:31] <miniCruzer> I'm writing a script that needs each line prefixed with the same thing (print FILENAME ") and then suffixed with the same thing (\n";). I believe there is a shell command to do this?
[02:31] <miniCruzer> Because copying and pasting on each line is a pain
[02:31] <tony_> I have Dell Inspiron mini
[02:31] <steven__> tony_ What kind of movie? Is it a .avi file?
[02:31] <maco> miniCruzer: sed -i 's/^/print FILENAME/g;s/$/\n/g' foo
[02:31] <tony_> Yes it is
[02:31] <miniCruzer> ty maco
[02:32] <steven__> did you install all the gstreamer plugins?
[02:32] <sebsebseb> MariusAZ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule
[02:32] <steven__> I recommend you use VLC player anyways, it have better video decoding and handles hardware acceleration/subtitles much better
[02:33] <tony_> I am a beginner, have no knowledge of ubuntu
[02:34] <tony_> Is there any site that I can go to for help?
[02:35] <sark666> ok wasting time trying to get samba working with windows 7 and ubuntu.  trying to access files on the win box from ubuntu.  i've had samba working before but i assume this is something with windows 7
[02:35] <sark666> is there an alternative to sharing files besides samba?
[02:36] <ShawnRisk> How do I get my laptop from locking when I wakeup my laptop from suspend, using Dell Inspiron 1501
[02:36] <Flannel> sark666: actually, if you're only using Windows 7 (and no earlier versions of windows) you can use NFS, since Microsoft finally decided it was useful
[02:36] <ShawnRisk> and Ubuntu 10.04.
[02:37] <mansa> how do i unset the previously set proxy
[02:37] <sark666> flannel, thx i'll look into that
[02:37] <Flannel> !nfs | sark666
[02:37] <Flannel> sark666: Previously it was just for OSX/Linux, but I see an article here saying Win7 supports it too
[02:39] <sark666> Flannel, hmm from what i'm reading windows 7 has nfs client support.  i was attempting to share the files from windows 7 accessing them from my ubuntu box
[02:39] <steven__> ShawnRisk....hit ALT + F2  enter 'gconf-editor' go to apps > gnome-screensaver and unclick 'lock_enabled'
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> all this time to actually get a NFS CLIENT in windows? :)  its proberly only in the win-7-uber-mega-colossals-light-supreme edition
[02:40] <steven__> opps my bad Shawn
[02:40] <steven__> go to apps > gnome-power-manager > lock and unclick the checkmark under suspend
[02:41] <ShawnRisk> steven__: yes but someone told me this was a swap issue
[02:41] <steven__> do you mean your laptop locks up (like freezes?) or lock, as in it locks the screen and asks you for a password
[02:42] <erisco> my vista computer can see my ubuntu computer, but my ubuntu cannot see my vista computer... it is like it doesn't exist! how can I troubleshoot this problem?
[02:42] <a94060> any body know the keyboard shortcut for switching rooms in xchat? i know its not really ubuntu but..
[02:42] <ShawnRisk> steven__: locks and freezes
[02:42] <a94060> erisco, could deal with firewall on vista
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> xchat had some decnt docs last i checked also.. - i dont rember the keyboard shortcuts a94060
[02:43] <nawst2> Ok so I have an issue... My gtk themes don't load for openbox-session until I launch gnome-appearance-properties.... Anyojne know why/work around?
[02:43] <gtpitch> Hi  I have a ATI radeon 4350 HD video card but ubuntu 10.04 keeps wanting to install ati firegl drivers which won't allow desktop effects to work
[02:43] <gtpitch> help?
[02:43] <erisco> a94060, it could, but what do I look for?
[02:43] <stone1343> Is there a name for the condition when your Ubuntu system starts getting a message about unsufficient resources, where icons in the top panel become "no entry" or 'X', and the shutdown dialog text is not actually text, but just a bunch of rectangles?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> erisco:  for a share. try entering the full url to the share the first tile on the ubuntu box in the gnome file manager address.
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> erisco:  ie:  smb://server/sharename
[02:44] <a94060> stone1343, seems like a memory issue
[02:44] <erisco> I am trying to see it through the network browser in Ubuntu
[02:44] <mansa> i dont understand how do i unset my proxy setting
[02:44] <erisco> I also tried linking them in a LAN game, same problem! the vista computer can see me in the game lobby, the ubuntu computer cannot see the vista computer
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> erisco:  try entering the full path to the share in the browsers address bar (hit ctrl-l to enter a path)
[02:45] <mansa> is there something like http_proxy=unset
[02:45] <mansa> http_proxy unset
[02:45] <a94060> mansa, system->preferences->network proxy
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> erisco:  that sounds like more of a window sfirewall issue
[02:45] <erisco> Dr_Willis, I do not have any particular share
[02:45] <nickzxcv> so I'm trying to add a line like ls /etc/ssh/ssh_host_* || /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server to /etc/init/ssh.conf
[02:45] <stone1343> a94060: yes but I don't even know the slang name for the condition to even start figuring it out
[02:45] <nickzxcv> I haven't used upstart much, and it used to work in /etc/init.d/ssh but not with lucid
[02:45] <mansa> a94060: i had tried that..
[02:45] <erisco> I am not sure what to do. I've disabled the firewall, added exceptions to the games I've tried, enabled file sharing...
[02:45] <nickzxcv> in /etc/init/ssh.conf it works but dpkg-reconfigure never finishes after making the keys
[02:45] <a94060> stone1343, maybe the free command will help
[02:45] <mansa> it is not working
[02:45] <erisco> I don't know what is left
[02:46] <mansa> i am trying to reset the proxy settings of the terminal
[02:46] <a94060> mansa, does it use your proxy in multiple programs or only one?
[02:46] <mansa> is there some command http_proxy
[02:46] <mansa> http_proxy=unset
[02:46] <nickzxcv> how can I figure out what upstart is doing? If I just run it on the command line its fine
[02:46] <mansa> a94060: well i suppose when i try to update my system it says cant resolve the proxy
[02:47] <mansa> a94060: well i am not using the proxy at the moment
[02:47] <a94060> mansa, you have it set as apply system wide right?
[02:47] <mansa> yes i have
[02:48] <a94060> mansa, what are you using via the terminal? wget,etc
[02:48] <mansa> a94060: sudo apt-get update
[02:48] <ShawnRisk> when I wakeup my laptop from suspend, the laptop freezes, using Ubuntu 10.04 and Dell Inspiron 1501.
[02:48] <cobra3> any of you good at programming in python? I have a problem with this code after you look at it I will tell you my problem
[02:48] <cobra3> http://pastebin.com/A76ntYi3
[02:48] <a94060> in synaptic go to settings->options->network
[02:48] <a94060> check there
[02:49] <a94060> mansa, ^^
[02:49] <Kentrel> Shawn, I get the same on my desktop, with hibernate
[02:49] <dassouki> i'm thinking of freelancing; how can i block my self from certain websites ? applicatios
[02:49] <histo> cobra3: /j #python ???
[02:49] <cobra3> so this place just gives away your IP address when you log in?
[02:49] <ShawnRisk> Kentrel: what to do?
[02:49] <histo> dassouki: what do you mean?
[02:50] <a94060> cobra3, yes i guess,but why worry? and /j #python as said above
[02:50] <Kentrel> ShawnRisk, I don't know. I haven't found an answer yet. I wondered if it was a diskspace issue
[02:50] <cobra3> my problem is that the code is supposed to add the sums from 10 numbers entered by the user
[02:50] <cobra3> but it only sums up 9
[02:50] <histo> !ot | cobra3
[02:50] <dassouki> histo: i think if i end up freelancing at home; i'll end up browsing the net instead of working on boring jobs
[02:51] <a94060> cobra3, off topic but make sure your loop starts from the correct point. the one which collects data
[02:51] <trism> cobra3: range(1, 10) is equivalent to 1 to 9, if you want 1 to 10 it is range(1, 11)
[02:51] <cobra3> what about 0,10?
[02:51] <ShawnRisk> Kentrel: someone told me this is a swap issue
[02:51] <cobra3> will that work?
[02:51] <nawst2> I'm trying to figure out why gtk apps under openbox-session don't load the theme I have set in gnome... until I open gnome-appearance-properties :(
[02:51] <trism> cobra3: yes, 0 to 10 would be fine too
[02:51] <cobra3> k
[02:51] <cobra3> thanks
[02:52] <a94060> ShawnRisk, was your problem with the laptop freezing?
[02:52] <ShawnRisk> a94060: yes
[02:53] <a94060> ShawnRisk, do you have swap on?
[02:53] <ShawnRisk> a94060: not sure
[02:55] <nickrud> what's the command to turn off join/part messages in xchat? I've forgotten :(
[02:55] <ShawnRisk> a94060: how do I tell
[02:55] <ShawnRisk> ?
[02:55] <a94060> ShawnRisk, do sudo fdisk -l,see if a partion with Id 82 is listed. it should read "Linux Swap /Solaris"
[02:56] <ShawnRisk> a94060: I can't check as the laptop is in another room where people are sleeping
[02:56] <unkmar> I'm running 8.04 wasnt goint to install svgatextmode but hit a conflict on install.  Please advise to reasonable solution.
[02:56] <unkmar> *was going to*
[02:57] <histo> unkmar: can you pastebin the conflict?
[02:57] <histo> !paste | unkmar
[02:57] <histo> nickrud: does it have ignore options?
[02:57] <a94060> ShawnRisk, Alrighty. Well my guess is to check if swap is on because I think that when you put the computer into hibernate,the ram is written into the swap,or maybe something is written into the swap. Since I am assuming your swap isnt on,the system is freezing
[02:58] <ShawnRisk> a94060: if this isn't on, how do I fix this?  If this is on, what could I do to fix this?
[02:58] <Kentrel> swap should be on by default when you install, right?
[02:58] <ShawnRisk> I believe so
[02:59] <histo> nickrud: Preferecnes > chatting > general > hide join/part   ?
[02:59] <misc---> if a big sata hard disk is not detected on a sata card, is it because the motherboard can't handle it or is it because the sata card can't handle it?
[02:59] <Agu10> hi
[02:59] <unkmar> histo: it conflicts with ubuntu-minimal @ console-tools.
[02:59] <Agu10> where can I find virtualbox when it's installed?
[02:59] <histo> misc---: like in the sata cards bios?
[02:59] <Agu10> I can't find it in the menu
[02:59] <a94060> Agu10, Applications->Accesories
[02:59] <misc---> histo: yeah the sata card bios can't detect it
[03:00] <histo> misc---: does it detect other drives?
[03:00] <Agu10> a94060: what name?
[03:00] <a94060> ShawnRisk, I am not sure how to go about it exactly,was trying to provide a starting point for diagnosis
[03:00] <Agu10> can't find it!
[03:00] <a94060> Agu10, virtualbox from the command line
[03:00] <misc---> histo: yeah it detects the current ones that are in there (320gb) but I bought a couple of 2tb disks and it hangs there. The actual motherboard currently has 1.5tb disks in there no problem
[03:00] <a94060> Agu10, you may need to enable it from the menu you right clicking the ubuntu symbol and clicking edit menu
[03:00] <Agu10> virtualbox: command not found
[03:01] <a94060> it may not be installed
[03:01] <Alexandra> Hey there, updated to 10.04 and vlc makes trouble every time when I have dual screen running. Fine without second screen. Have a look at vlc: http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5862/vlcnarrow.png
[03:01] <misc---> histo: I'm thinking it's the sata card that can't detect it (an old s112a card)
[03:01] <james-a-wagner3> Agu10: Try "VirtualBox"
[03:01] <a94060> Agu10, sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[03:01] <xplicit313[ICAN]> is there a way to get itunes to work with ubuntu karmic? I've tried a few things that google told me but no dice still
[03:01] <histo> misc---: maybe look for a firmware upgrade for the card if its doing it with both disks.
[03:01] <Agu10> BUT I did install it from the virtualbox webpage
[03:01] <histo> misc---: I'd start there
[03:01] <Agu10> a94060: virtualbox-ose-qt ???
[03:02] <a94060> Agu10, you may want to try as reccomended above,VirtualBox
[03:02] <misc---> histo: yeah ok cool thanks. Definitely not the disks as I've tried both of them, they both do the same thing. Anyway will hunt around for a bios upgrade
[03:02] <james-a-wagner3> Agu10: It was always named that way on my boxes. YMMV.
[03:02] <histo> Agu10: apps > system tools
[03:02] <a94060> Agu10, Try typing in virtual and tabbing,or Virtual and tabbing
[03:03] <histo> unkmar: can you just specify grub vga modes instead?
[03:03] <histo> unkmar: if not You may have to contact the package maintaner or file a bug report
[03:03] <Agu10> I have it as "VirtualBox" but I don't have it in the menu!
[03:03] <Evolution> okay, I've been reading over https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone#Ubuntu%2010.04%20Lucid%20Lynx:%20Support%20out%20of%20the%20box and http://marcansoft.com/blog/2009/10/iphone-syncing-on-linux-part-2/ on syncing the iphone under ubuntu 10.04, and the music bits work flawlessly.
[03:03] <novaryan1> hey is how do i set up my email
[03:03] <Evolution> has anyone got the iphone syncing with the calendar though?
[03:03] <sergio> hi
[03:03] <unkmar> histo: not without rebooting.
[03:04] <novaryan1> Can some one help me?
[03:04] <unkmar> histo: I mean, I can specify and it might work. but not until a reboot.
[03:05] <histo> unkmar: Yeah just trying to figure out why you are trying to use that . Its usually only used for really old hardware that doesn't work with framebuffer drivers
[03:06] <unkmar> histo: because I sometimes like to use the tty and having more that 80x25 is nice.
[03:07] <slide> Is there any way to tell what kind of sata hard drive a computer has via dmesg or some come command line?
[03:07] <alket> I have problems playing Games like Glest, Yo Frankie! and Penumbra (they are very slow) but not Urban Terror, World of Goo..
[03:07] <jing> is support for mini install in here?
[03:08] <Flannel> jing: Yes
[03:08] <novaryan1> hey can some one please tel me how to setup the email on this?
[03:08] <a94060> novaryan1, email?
[03:08] <histo> unkmar: yeah you can do that with vga cods
[03:09] <novaryan1> ya there is an email thing?
[03:09] <jing> okay i can put in eubiqity but i dont know what is the command to install to hard disk orit would be asier with server?
[03:09] <unkmar> histo: it helps to know what command and which vga code to use.
[03:09] <a94060> novaryan1, i dont know of any email thing,maybe someone else can assist you
 Please try to ask real questions. Nobody will help you like this.
[03:11] <a94060> markus_, he already parted
[03:11] <djveer> Hey guys, anybody know a wifi network scanner for Ubuntu that works well?
[03:11] <maco> markus_: i think that was an evolution quesiton
 There are people out there. looool
[03:11] <juju> djveer: iwlist
[03:12] <maco> markus_: you dont need to type the < >
[03:12] <histo> unkmar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto search for vga it shows to edit hte /boot/grub/menu.lst and add a vga=??? tot he defoptions line
[03:12] <maco> markus_: in fact, i find it likely that their client *won't* highlight if you do
[03:12] <histo> unkmar: depending on what resolution you want.
[03:12] <djveer> juju: I've been using that a little bit... do you know of a graphical one also?
[03:12] <a94060> how do we know if there are ops/halfops in the room?
 I use xchat. And when I am copying a name the <> appears automatically
[03:12] <maco> a94060: break a rule and find out ;-)
[03:12] <BitEncrypt> in the software center where does the programs go to that have the box icon next to them.
[03:12] <maco> markus_: copying? just start typing and hit tab
[03:13] <a94060> maco,great answer
[03:13] <juju> djveer: network-manager and wicd and whatever replaced those
[03:13] <maco> a94060: for the record, i'm an op
[03:13] <maco> this channel has probably 30
[03:14] <kcaze> hr
[03:14] <nickrud> still not enough
[03:14] <djveer> juju: thank you
[03:14] <histo> a94060: and there is an ops trigger for everyone else that is watching to alert them.
[03:14] <a94060> maco, oh ok if you say. I dont understand how I can tell. I see a green dot next to floodbot,but thats all,im guessing names with ^also?
[03:14] <Agu10> hi
[03:15] <maco> a94060: policy is that ops shouldnt keep their +o on at all times.  looks a bit "standing army"-ish
[03:15] <maco> a94060: hostile
[03:15] <BitEncrypt> in the software center where does the programs go to that have the box icon next to them.
[03:15] <maco> a94060: so we just go +o when we need to do something op-y
[03:15] <markus_> maco: okay. will do it this way. I am not an irc geek yet :)
[03:15] <a94060> ohhh,alrighty maco
[03:15] <a94060> maco, I never knew it was like that honestly =]
[03:15] <a94060> usually people just keep op on
[03:15] <Agu10> how can I make my ubuntu look like mac? als
[03:15] <jing> okay i can put in eubiqity but i dont know what is the command to install to hard disk or it would be easier with server?
[03:16] <maco> a94060: not in ubuntu channels. i cant remember right now whether thats an ubuntu guideline/rule or a freenode one
[03:16] <nickrud> freenode
[03:16] <a94060> Agu10, http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23
[03:16] <maco> nickrud: thanks
[03:16] <a94060> alrighty maco thats pretty intresting. I need to hangout on freenode more
[03:16] <Agu10> thanks
[03:16] <a94060> I am trying to become more open sorce,but let me not get off topic
[03:16] <unkmar> so there are a large number of ops lurking in here as regular folks?  If so, I'm not all that surprised.
[03:17] <bsmith0931> a94060 how so?
[03:17] <BitEncrypt> in the software center, where do the programs go to that have the box icon next to them.
[03:17] <unkmar> I use to do the same with another channel I frequented as an op.
[03:17] <BitEncrypt> in the software center where does the programs go to that have the box icon next to them when installrd
[03:17] <Agu10> and how can I get a better theme than MAC ?
[03:17] <a94060> bsmith0931, by using linux first and less windows
[03:18] <fabio> boa noite gente
[03:18] <markus_> Agu10, Guess tastes are different?
[03:18] <nickrud> BitEncrypt, all ubuntu apps get scattered around the filesystem; some in /usr/bin/, some bits in /usr/share, some in /usr/lib most commonly
[03:18] <fabio> to precisando de uma ajuda
[03:18] <Agu10> markus_: :-(
[03:19] <BitEncrypt> thx
[03:19] <fabio> tenho instalado o ubuntu 9.10 em um noot e comprei um outro not novo e instalei o 10.04 como copiar todos os meus arquivos para o novo notebook
[03:19] <Loshki> !pt | fabio
[03:19] <mikelifeguard> To totally start a package install from scratch, I need to apt-get purge && apt-get clean && apt-get install, right?
[03:20] <nickrud> BitEncrypt, if you start up synaptic (system->admin) you can find all the bits and where they are, right click an installed one and look at properties
[03:20] <snof> !nl | snof
[03:20] <Loshki> mikelifeguard: if you want to RE-install from scratch, you need all that. If it's never been installed before, just apt-get install is sufficient
[03:21] <fabio> ok
[03:21] <mikelifeguard> Loshki: Yeah, I've somehow bungled gedit :'(
[03:21] <nickrud> mikelifeguard, no ....   each apt-get run is independent. I'm not sure what you're thinking in terms of ...
[03:21] <nickrud> ah. forgot that apt-get has added some aptitude commands.
[03:23] <BitEncrypt> thx
[03:25] <Doyle> Q: When trying to install Pango, I get the error message: libtool: link: unsupported hardcode properties
[03:25] <poi77> Hi! Can I boot an ubuntu live cd on my mac?
[03:25] <IdleOne> poi77: yes
[03:25] <poi77> IdleOne: how? It's not auto-booting
[03:26] <IdleOne> poi77: ppc?
[03:26] <maco> poi77: hold down the option key
[03:26] <poi77> IdleOne: intel
[03:26] <IdleOne> either the option key or the c KEY
[03:26] <IdleOne> err C key*
[03:26] <a94060> also poi77 you have the i386 version right?
[03:26] <dominicdinada> what the fricking hell this shut is ticking me off :( :(
[03:27] <LUCIDementia> Firefox closes whenever I try to maximize YouTube videos (and only youtube videos). Any suggestions?
[03:27] <Kentrel> i'm running apache, but I can only access it through http://localhost - no-one else on the web can reach it, and I can't access parts of it by replacing localhost with my IP
[03:27] <IdleOne> dominicdinada: if you are going to curse do it with the correct spelling BTW NO swearing please
[03:28] <a94060> Kentrel, your dns is set correctly right? along with /etc/nameservers.conf?
[03:28] <hanasaki> how's the encrypt your home directory thing work?
[03:28] <Doyle> LUCIDementia: Uninstall firefox, run apt-get update, apt-get autoremove to cleanup, then install firefox again.
[03:28] <dominicdinada> IdleOne i didnt curse :) but Ebox is the WORST peice of software ever written... not only that the support is >= 0 :(
[03:28] <Kentrel> I don't know.. this is what error.log says
[03:28] <Kentrel> [Mon May 17 03:25:47 2010] [error] [client 92.235.213.255] client denied by server configuration: /home/conor/www/test.txt
[03:28] <histo> hanasaki: it encrypts your home directory
[03:28] <LUCIDementia> thanks Doyle!
[03:28] <Kentrel> But I don't think my server is configured to deny it..
[03:28] <poi77> a94060: 64 bit
[03:29] <a94060> Kentrel, maybe want to do a /j #apache?
[03:29] <hanasaki> histo:  lol what kinda encryption?  how do you make sure if you reinstall it still works?
[03:29] <hanasaki> dominicdinada:  what's better?
[03:29] <bsmith0931> is there something that will scan through a whole bunch of pictures and weed out the duplicates (these are camera pics so they have names lik dc24785742592 so not just a name search but actual content)
[03:29] <IdleOne> dominicdinada: there is only one meaning for fricking. obfuscated swearing is the same as the real thing. Please don't do it.
[03:29] <LUCIDementia> wait...how do I run apt-get update/apt-get autoremove?
[03:29] <histo> hanasaki: let me find you documentation
[03:29] <a94060> LUCIDementia, you need a sudo in front of it
[03:29] <Doyle> LUCIDementia: from the terminal. You can access it from Accessories under your ubuntu menu
[03:29] <histo> hanasaki: it gives you a key at install time encrypting your home. You need that key if you want to mount the drive elsewhere or reinstall etc....
[03:30] <nerxgas> how do i install the linux kernel source code from command line?
[03:30] <Naynay> NEW OFIS!
[03:30] <hanasaki> histo:  Ubuntu only?
[03:30] <dominicdinada> hanasaki: actually even with Webmin not supporting samba anymore it is still way better.... Ebox trys to control and bind everything to the system, it breaks it... even when you remove it it doesnt relenquish control...
[03:30] <Doyle> LUCIDementia: a94060 is right, I forget cuz I run everything from root... that's not smart though
[03:31] <ARandomNub> Hi :]
[03:31] <histo> hanasaki: http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7568/1.html
[03:31] <a94060> LUCIDementia, you can also press ALT+F2 to pull up a run dialog from gnome
[03:31] <a94060> and then check the box for run in terminal
[03:31] <leagris> LUCIDementia, before purging firefox with apt, you should try it in safe mode. Quit Firefox, the open a console and type firefox -safe-mode and try in this mode if it crash again. If it does not, disable extensions one by one and find which one cause trouble
[03:31] <bsmith0931> any answer to this? is there something that will scan through a whole bunch of pictures and weed out the duplicates (these are camera pics so they have names lik dc24785742592 so not just a name search but actual content)
[03:31] <Doyle> Q: When trying to install Pango, I get the error message: libtool: link: unsupported hardcode properties, anyone have a solution for me?
[03:31] <ARandomNub> Q: I just installed Ubuntu and now it's not detecting my windows installation :(. How can I get *both* to work?
[03:32] <dominicdinada> ebox thinks it is so  good so it killed my firewall, samba files, interfaces, etc... :) good think i removed the POS again but it still killed the default samba file with my addition of like 70 shares
[03:32] <acerimmer> ARandomNub: how did u install?  wubi or dual boot?
[03:32] <a94060> bsmith0931, you could try looking for files which are sized exactly the same. not sure how to go about this though
[03:32] <ARandomNub> acerimmer: I burnt it to a disc, and selected 200gb of the only partition available to select, which said it didn't have an o/s on it.
[03:32] <bsmith0931> so no picture dupl;icate search
[03:33] <Doyle> ARandomNub: do you get the option to boot to windows at least? In Ubuntu, are you able to see your windows folder/partition when browsing your hard drive?
[03:33] <histo> bsmith0931: you could do it by file hashes
[03:33] <bsmith0931> how
[03:33] <ARandomNub> Doyle: Yes, my windows HDD is named ''HDD1'' and it's fully displayable in ubuntu.
[03:33] <JabberWalkie> so I get the error "Error storing directory block information (inode=538973, block=0, num=335607657): Memory allocation failed" when running gparted repair on a parition....help?
[03:33] <ARandomNub> Doyle: All System files are displayed too.
[03:34] <acerimmer> ARandomNub: so u can see the windows partition?
[03:34] <histo> bsmith0931: well i'm trying to figure that out.
[03:34] <Doyle> ARandomNub: good stuff. looks like you just need to setup your boot loader. grub I assume...
[03:34] <ARandomNub> acerimmer: I can see the FILES, I just don't get the option to boot into winndows.
[03:34] <ARandomNub> *Windows
[03:34] <j3rg> hey recently installed XP on my cousin's computer
[03:34] <j3rg> but i can't identify which drivers which
[03:34] <ARandomNub> /boot/grub/menu.lst file <-?
[03:34] <acerimmer> ARandomNub: agree with doyule - looks like a grub thingy.  login as root, run terminal sudo update-grub
[03:35] <j3rg> well which is needed
[03:35] <ARandomNub> Okay
[03:35] <j3rg> any suggestion
[03:35] <histo> bsmith0931: yeah md5sum hashes shuold be the same even if the names are different
[03:35] <IdleOne> j3rg: ##windows can help
[03:35] <a94060> ARandomNub, yes,you would need to check out that file and if its grub and not grub2, you can edit that file
[03:35] <greezmunkey> dominicdinada: you made a full backup, of course...
[03:35] <acerimmer> !grub2|arandomnub
[03:35] <dominicdinada> greezmunkey: somewhere... I have it ....
[03:35] <ARandomNub> acerimmer: it's complete.
[03:35] <JabberWalkie> can anyone help??? I have tried google, it was not helpful
[03:35] <acerimmer> ARandomNub: wait 1
[03:36] <lordeden> hi, is anyone having problems with xconf and ATI drivers?
[03:36] <ARandomNub> acerimmer: Okay :D
[03:36] <lordeden> with 10.4
[03:36] <histo> bsmith093: okay i guess digikam is an app that does it and gqview also there is findupeimage  or something like that.
[03:36] <greezmunkey> dominicdinada: is this a production box, or experimental?
[03:36] <LUCIDementia> how do I uninstall a program?
[03:36] <histo> bsmith093: but you could write a shell script to do it.
[03:36] <a94060> JabberWalkie, you may want to try checking the partition for errors
[03:36] <dominicdinada> greezmunkey: home network box :)
[03:36] <j3rg> IdleOne: thanks
[03:36] <IdleOne> LUCIDementia: sudo apt-get remove package
[03:36] <JabberWalkie> a94060, thats what gparted was doing
[03:36] <logi`> I'm trying to install and the installer is picking the wrong video card, I have the primary video adapter set to pci in the bios, can someone help?
[03:36] <a94060> oh
[03:36] <JabberWalkie> and it failed
[03:36] <LUCIDementia> and that gives me a list of every program? How do I select the one I want?
[03:36] <dominicdinada> greezmunkey: fileserver/etc :)
[03:36] <Doyle> ARandomNub: look over ubottu 's info on Grub2, it's good. You can also check out http://www.eloff.se/tutorials.php?ubuntu_vista_dualboot... always be careful when editing files...
[03:36] <leagris> Are there an up to date (Lucid) instructions/howto properly setup LTSP fat clients?
[03:37] <acerimmer> ARandomNub: bookmark that url i sent.  then reboot to see if u got the fix.
[03:37] <IdleOne> LUCIDementia: replace package with the actual package name
[03:37] <a94060> JabberWalkie, maybe its a problem with permissions?
[03:37] <greezmunkey> dominicdinada: ok, experimental - at least you can beat on it without worying about your job :)
[03:37] <JabberWalkie> seems to be running out of memory
[03:37] <JabberWalkie> but I have like 4gb...
[03:37] <LUCIDementia> but if I'm uninstalling it there is no actual package name...
[03:37] <ARandomNub> Doyle: Okay, thanks. I'm just gonna go check that menu.lst file a sec =D
[03:37] <JabberWalkie> maybe if I make a huge swap drive it will be quiet...
[03:37] <dominicdinada> greezmunkey: even if it was at work :) ;) if they dont pay enough haha
[03:37] <IdleOne> LUCIDementia: not sure what you mean by there is no package name if you are uninstalling
[03:38] <logi`> anyone know how to solve my problem?
[03:38] <greezmunkey> dominicdinada: they never do ;)
[03:38] <dominicdinada> greezmunkey: fair Days work for a fair days pay
[03:38] <a94060> logi`, can you disconnect the otherone somehow?
[03:38] <ARandomNub> @Anyone: is it a bad thing when I can't see a menu.lst file?
[03:39] <Doyle> logi`: you're trying to install Ubuntu?
[03:39] <dominicdinada> greezmunkey: opps they forgot my raise ? opps i forgot the backups the last month
[03:39] <logi`> a94060: it's an onboard chipset
[03:39] <poi77> Hi! Can I mount my Macintosh hard drive as a writable dir?
[03:39] <logi`> it's vga, and I only have DVI monitors
[03:39] <IdleOne> dominicdinada: oops you're fired
[03:39] <histo> !mount | poi77
[03:39] <dominicdinada> IdleOne: opps theres 30 more jobs
[03:39] <ARandomNub> @Anyone: is it a bad thing when I can't see a menu.lst file?
[03:40] <moes> ARandomNub, menu.lst file is not in grub 2
[03:40] <a94060> ARandomNub, it must be there somewhere. you have grub2?
[03:40] <IdleOne> ARandomNub: not if you are running 9.10 and up
[03:40] <poi77> histo: yes it is mounting but it's reporting "read only file system"
[03:40] <ARandomNub> I'm running latest version =D
[03:40] <histo> logi`: so it boots and the vga is active but not the dvi?
[03:40] <a94060> ARandomNub, its stored in a different file
[03:40] <a94060> !grub2 | ARandomNub
[03:40] <logi`> a94060: when it boots to the CD, it shows the purple screen for a second or two, then goes black
[03:40] <a94060> logi`, im not too familar with the installer process
[03:40] <logi`> histo: yes, that's what happens
[03:40] <Doyle> ARandomNub: do a "locate menu.lst"
[03:41] <histo> poi77: what type of filesystem is it?
[03:41] <leagris> logi`, You may have more success installing from the alternate CD in text mode.
[03:41] <poi77> histo: it's a mac os x
[03:41] <lordeden> has anyone had a problem with upgrading to 10.4 and losing display settings with ATI cards?
[03:41] <IdleOne> he will not find a menu.lst if he is running 10.04
[03:41] <acerimmer> IdleOne: what u said
[03:41] <IdleOne> it is called grub.cfg now
[03:41] <histo> poi77: okay how did you mount the hard drive?
[03:41] <ARandomNub> Doyle: Basically, I just want the option to boot between Windows and Ubuntu, and since the files from windows are clearly displayed on the HDD, I just need to know *how* to make them both bootable.
[03:41] <poi77> histo: it automounted
[03:42] <a94060> ARandomNub, maybe this helps you? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringWindows
[03:42] <acerimmer> ARandomNub: Places>Search for files>grub.cfg
[03:42] <Doyle> IdleOne: ew, OK. ARandomNub better read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 then. Ignore me!
[03:42] <logi`> there isn't a button combination I can press to switch displays?
[03:42] <IdleOne> Doyle: indeed he should :)
[03:42] <logi`> :P
[03:42] <severnaya> Hello, can someone help me get yum working in ubuntu? I already did "apt-get install yum" but it doesn't see any packages.  Thanks :)
[03:42] <a94060> severnaya, yum is not the package management program for ubuntu
[03:42] <histo> poi77: I guess people are saying not to write to a mac parititon but i'm lookign for why. It probably got moutned readonly for your user.
[03:43] <kyubutsu> severnaya: thats probably because ubunt uses apt not yum
[03:43] <ARandomNub> acerimmer: nothing found =[
[03:43] <severnaya> a94060, then why does it let me install yum? i can do yum --help fine, it just doesnt see any packages
[03:43] <poi77> histo: who's saying that?
[03:43] <leagris> logi`, there used to be an option to setup screen mode with F2 during boot of the CD but if your screen switch to black before that, it won't help.
[03:43] <logi`> nvm, I got it working
[03:43] <acerimmer> ARandomNub: ? waaa?
[03:43] <histo> poi77: some articles i'm reading hold up let me see
[03:43] <IdleOne> ARandomNub: have you read the !grub2 factoid you were given?
[03:43] <logi`> I haven't used ubuntu in forever, didn't realize I had to press "delete" to go to the loader
[03:44] <ARandomNub> IdleOne: I was given that? O_O
[03:44] <a94060> severnaya, maybe some respositries need to be added? sorry,not really knowledgeable about it
[03:44] <histo> poi77: if its a journaled hfs volume you can't write to it.
[03:44] <severnaya> kyubutsu there has to be a way to get it to work or else ubuntu wouldnt have yum in the repositories
[03:44] <nickrud> severnaya, take a look at /usr/share/doc/yum
[03:44] <IdleOne> !grub2 | ARandomNub
[03:44] <histo> poi77: if you turn off journaling you can mount it with write suport.
[03:44]  * logi` facepalms
[03:44] <logi`> lol...
[03:44] <Evolution> okay, I've removed gwibber from the system, logged out and logged back in again, but the indicator applet still shows the envelope icon. Is there a way to get rid of just that icon, without cooking off the volume button?
[03:44] <kyubutsu> !apt > severnaya
[03:44] <acerimmer> ARandomNub: suggest u slow up and read the factoid.  the recovery options are laid out in that document and should'nt be rushed.
[03:44] <moes> ARandomNub, grub 2 equivalent to menu.lst is.../etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme
[03:45] <poi77> histo: thanks for your help
[03:45] <severnaya> kyubutsu i dont want to use apt, it sucks compared to yum
[03:45] <histo> logi`: you shouldn't have to push anything to get a menu. Maybe the monitor went to sleep?
[03:45] <trism> Evolution: uninstall indicator-messages
[03:45] <histo> poi77: np
[03:45] <IdleOne> severnaya: use aptitude
[03:45] <Evolution> trism: gracias
[03:45] <kyubutsu> ubuntu repositories use apt.. no way around that
[03:46] <logi`> histo: nope... the monitor was saying there wasn't any signal
[03:46] <logi`> idk
[03:46] <ARandomNub> Well, I'm not actually sure I understand *exactly* what I'm supposed to do.. I'm new to this =[
[03:46] <LUCIDementia> firefox closes whenever I try to maximize youtube videos, but only youtube videos. I have already tried reinstalling firefox but without success
[03:46] <jon23> how can i update jaunty into lucid lynx
[03:46] <MACscr> im new to ubuntu, any theme recommendations that really show the power of ubuntu?
[03:46] <jon23> compiz :p
[03:46] <IdleOne> ARandomNub: that is why you need to go to the link ubottu gave you and read it carefully
[03:47] <acerimmer> ARandomNub: slow up.  read the grub2 issue.  then carefully fix.  you're on teh right path.
[03:47] <severnaya> IdleOne i want to use yuj
[03:47] <severnaya> yum
[03:47] <MACscr> jon23: afaik, compiz isnt a theme =P
[03:47] <acerimmer> ARandomNub: trying to rush a grub fix is 90% guaranteed to trash the installation
[03:47] <jon23> do i have to just grab the iso and do a clean install
[03:47] <maxagaz> hi
[03:47] <maxagaz> blogger is closed in china, do you know some goo blog I could use ?
[03:47] <kyubutsu> furthermore, if you want to hack a way to do so, severnaya , you might want to go ask in #linux
[03:47] <maxagaz> good
[03:47] <IdleOne> severnaya: I don't know how you can but there is probably a way
[03:47] <jon23> MACscr: but it shows the power
[03:48] <jon23> or the fun ;p
[03:48] <ARandomNub> acerimmer: Can I PM you for a moment, please?
[03:48] <Doyle> MACscr: the power of ubuntu is revealed to those who know the power of themselves...
[03:48] <MACscr> jon23: but isnt it on by default?
[03:48] <leagris> logi`, unfortunately, the ubuntu boot process totally ignore bios settings and unfortunately it start in a graphic framebuffer with the first graphic displays it finds. By the way, te alternate CD dos not switch to framebuffer and process the installation all in default text mode, so you should be ok with that alternat boot cd.
[03:48] <karrot> Can anyone tell me why my computer will lock up for 5 minutes unless I press a keyboard button?
[03:48] <acerimmer> ARandomNub: yeah
[03:48] <jon23> yes it is
[03:48] <jon23> just not the advanced features
[03:48] <dominicdinada> jon23: macscr compiz is used to modify the theme :/
[03:48] <logi`> leagris: I got it working
[03:48] <logi`> histo: ^
[03:48] <logi`> a94060: ^
[03:48] <logi`> :P
[03:49] <a94060> :) good job
[03:49] <logi`> thanks
[03:49] <a94060> what was the problem?
[03:49] <jon23> can i update to lucid from jaunty?
[03:49] <LUCIDementia> firefox crashes whenever I fullscreen youtube videos. I tried reinstalling firefox but that didn't work. Help?
[03:49] <leagris> LUCIDementia, did you try safe mode ?
[03:50] <CaptainTrek> might check in #firefox too
[03:50] <LUCIDementia> no. But even if that worked it wouldn't be solving the problem
[03:50] <ZykoticK9> jon23, 9.04 to 9.10 then to 10.04
[03:50] <karrot> why does my computer freeze for 5 minutes until I hit a keyboard button?
[03:50] <kyubutsu> file a bug, LUCIDementia
[03:50] <leagris> LUCIDementia, uninstalling Firefox does not get ride of you user profile and if that profiles calkls problematics extensions you will get them back when you reinstal firefox
[03:50] <LUCIDementia> ah, I didn't know there was a #firefox   I'll try that
[03:50] <jon23> cool
[03:50] <jon23> i  will ease up
[03:50] <jon23> would it be easiar to just grab the iso
[03:51] <jon23> i have nothing deftly important, i dont mind losing
[03:51] <jon23> just some programming junk
[03:51] <ZykoticK9> jon23, clean installs are usually "easier" then upgrading (especially twice, in your case)
[03:52] <jon23> i know i misspelled that :p
[03:52] <jon23> and I is capitalized
[03:52] <jon23> im a lil lazy on typing skills
[03:52] <airtonix> !enter
[03:52] <jon23> Hah
[03:53] <kissmyassthma> hey all
[03:53] <Izinucs> !enter | jonathaN
[03:53] <Doyle> Q: Has anyone seen the error message: libtool: link: unsupported hardcode properties? Any ideas?
[03:53] <Izinucs> sorry jonathaN .. that wasn't for you..
[03:53] <a94060> haha,i like the dont use enter as puncuation
[03:53] <kyubutsu> tab complete ftw
[03:53] <whiterabbit1337> ^_^
[03:54] <a94060> i know i spell like a noob,but sorry for using enter as punctuation
[03:54] <a94060> !enter | a94060
[03:54] <IdleOne> !msgthebot > a94060
[03:54] <ARandomNub> Can anyone walk me through updating my video drivers? xD
[03:54] <Kentrel> How do I open up port 80 for incoming connections using iptables?
[03:54] <a94060> IdleOne, what does that do? I didnt get anything
[03:54] <airtonix> jon23, a94060, its annoying to try and piece together someones request of r help with information that is fragmented over four thousand seperate messages which are then interspersed with three hundred other peoples messages
[03:55] <IdleOne> a94060: the bot is tired lately
[03:55] <kyubutsu> ARandomNub: system>adminitration>hardware drivers   easy does it
[03:55] <a94060> Alrighty,apologies airtonix
[03:55] <IdleOne> a94060: basically it tells you to use /msg ubottu !factoid
[03:55] <ARandomNub> kyubutsu: Thx :D
[03:55] <IdleOne> a94060: when you are searching for yourself that is
[03:55] <leagris> Kentrel usually iptable -A INPUT -dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[03:55] <airtonix> a94060, so apart from being facists, there is a practical reason for desiring messages on one line.
[03:56] <IdleOne> airtonix: heh
[03:56] <Kentrel> leagris, OK, thanks I ad something similar but was giving me errors. I'll try that
[03:56] <a94060> alrighty,thanks IdleOne . Ill keep messages on one line. And alright airtonix ,that makes sense. Finally got the private message
[03:56] <airtonix> a94060, not just you.
[03:57] <acerimmer> ARandomNub:
[03:57] <corpse> im planing on building a box with all my hard drives in it and run it as a file server for all my other computers in the house. Is this a possible/good idea?
[03:57] <ARandomNub> acerimmer: Hey :D
[03:57] <Kentrel> leagris, that doesn't work, even when I fix iptable->iptables
[03:58] <Doyle> corpse: it's a great idea. Read up on file servers and hard drive redundancy to ensure you don't put yourself in a situation where you can loose all your data. The question isn't really ubuntu related though.
[03:58] <a94060> corpse, of course this is possible. You can make it into a raid (make it appear as one drive, or you can make them multiple network shares
[03:58] <kyubutsu> i believe there is a #server channel
[03:59] <Doyle> corpse: hint: google "linux raid 10 file server" and you should get some interesting stuff.
[03:59] <corpse> a94060:  yeah i have 6 harddrives (3tb total) that will be seperated for differnt storage use
[03:59] <corpse> Doyle: thank you, ill go look around on that. Is ubuntu server ed somthing i would want to use for this?
[04:00] <a94060> corpse, if you plan to use them all, then you may not want to RAId or anything, ubuntu server would work since its nice and stripped down
[04:00] <heizenburg> hi guys
[04:00] <IdleOne> hey heizenburg
[04:00] <heizenburg> ???
[04:00] <Babalabon> I am really impressed with windows 7 taskbar, in ubuntu can you make it respond in the same way??
[04:00] <heizenburg> thanks making sure everyone could hear me
[04:00] <corpse> a94060: exelent. downloading it now. is it ok running applications off a file server?
[04:01] <a94060> corpse, you can. But it would add "clutter" to it
[04:01] <leagris> Kentrel iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[04:01] <alket> Babalabon: what do you mean by "respond" ?
[04:01] <a94060> you may also want to look on how to set up samba. sorry for multi spacing message
[04:01] <corpse> a94060: got ya, i was hoping to have nothing but the OS on each computer then everything installed and backed up on the server
[04:01] <whiterabbit1337> Might want to use the state option with that
[04:02] <IdleOne> a94060: may I message you?
[04:02] <a94060> sure IdleOne
[04:02] <Babalabon> alket: well, grouping of the applications you have opened.
[04:02] <alket> Babalabon: yes i think there is Docky and AWN that act same
[04:03] <leagris> Kentrel, whiterabbit1337 is right, add state and so on. Bette use a script like Shorewall that keeps your configuration in readable and organized config files.
[04:04] <masclic> hello
[04:04] <whiterabbit1337> Hola.
[04:05] <masclic> ¿alguien habla castellano?
[04:05] <alket> hello masclic
[04:05] <masclic> estoy en españa
[04:05] <Doyle> corpse: depends on you. Do the research. If you want, you can also look into other distros like freeBSD or openSUSE, though they have a bit of a learning curve above ubuntu
[04:05] <leagris> !es > masclic
[04:05] <kyubutsu> docky depends on mono.. i prefer awn
[04:05] <vicsar> hello my internet connection is extremely slow and i don know why. Ideas on troubleshooting?
[04:05] <karrot> Does anyone have any ideas why my computer will just freeze up for like 5 minutes?
[04:05] <alket> kyubutsu: me too
[04:06] <vicsar> @maslic aqui no pero en #ubuntu-es si
[04:06] <karrot> que guapo!!
[04:06] <masclic> estoy usando el xchat ¿es lo mejor que hay para linux?
[04:06] <IdleOne> !es | masclic
[04:06] <masclic> yo usaba mirc para el windows
[04:07] <masclic> !es
[04:07] <xangua> no please, don't bring them to u-es :S
[04:07] <karrot> ?
[04:07] <Doyle> karrot: Viruses! PC-bola... no cure, format now to save yourself. When it freezes up, what process does the system monitor indicate is using the most cpu cycles?
[04:07] <masclic> ok, i now speak en english
[04:07] <masclic> is the xchat the better irc client for linux
[04:08] <a94060> Compared to what masclic ?
[04:08] <NewWorld> masclic:  Most popular graphical one
[04:08] <masclic> i intall ubuntu finish now mi first
[04:08] <karrot> Doyle: I don't believe that it is a virus, I've reformatted it at least 8 times with the same problem
[04:08] <kyubutsu> !best | masclic
[04:08] <Doyle> masclic: depends on your preference... ir use irssi
[04:08] <vicsar> @maslic try Smuxi, i use it
[04:08] <acerimmer> arandomn
[04:08] <masclic> i use mirc in windows and i see most complete than xchat
[04:08] <Chuck27> y
[04:08] <IdleOne> masclic: depends what you need in a irc client. xchat is what most people use for a GUI client. there is also irssi ( text client ) and a few others
[04:08] <a94060> karrot, maybe an internet problem? firewal possibly?
[04:08] <alket> masclic: i prefer pidgin with some plugins for IRC
[04:08] <karrot> alket: you can use pidgin for irc? That's awesome!!
[04:09] <masclic> what is this server? the xchat connect automatic, i use the irchispano server always
[04:09] <masclic> but i see this is a bigger english server
[04:09] <karrot> a94060: I dunno, it's within my LAN, and it's weird because If I am copying a file through samba i can see it stop on the client, and then looking at the server with iptraf going, i can see the server stop, until I hit a keyboard button
[04:09] <IdleOne> masclic: this network is called Freenode
[04:09] <NewWorld> masclic:  You mean channeL?
[04:09] <alket> karrot: even empathy, but i prefer pidgin
[04:09] <vicsar> My internet connection is extremely slow and i don't know why. Ideas on troubleshooting?
[04:10] <karrot> alket: is there some way to get empathy out of my message center?
[04:10] <NewWorld> vicsar:  Maybe you using IPv6? Before I disabled that my internet was ultra slow
[04:10] <buttons840> hi, i have the latest blender binary (alpha version) in my local folder, i put a sym link (which i don't know a lot about) to the binary in the local folder, but it wont run because it's not running in the right path (if that makes sense, i'm not good with the terms); any suggestions?
[04:10] <Doyle> karrot: it could be anything. Your logs may indicate something, but if you can replicate the freeze, try having the system monitor open so you can see what process is taxing your system.
[04:11] <alket> karrot: I didn't removed it, so sorry i don't know
[04:11] <vicsar> @NewWorld i will double check but i don't think so
[04:11] <a94060> karrot, May sound random,but this used to happen to me. Make sure your heatsink is sitting properly on your processor, it could be that it was overheating as in my case
[04:11] <karrot> Doyle: which logs? I tried looking in /var/syslog or something like that, i cannt remember
[04:11] <buttons840> what's a symbolic vs a regular (i guess?) link?
[04:11] <NickyB> heyas
[04:12] <vicsar> @NewWorld not it is ignored
[04:12] <a94060> buttons840, the two types are symbolic and hard links. From my knoweledge a sym link is like the way windows links
[04:12] <karrot> a94060: I'm starting to think it might be something like that, because it's a nettop that has no fan...
[04:12] <Doyle> karrot: google "ubuntu log view" you'll get a list of the logs somewehre in the first few results
[04:12] <MACscr> i know this might sound like of dumb, but is there a system restore like feature that windows has, but for ubuntu
[04:12] <histo> buttons840: symbolic vs hard link
[04:12] <NewWorld> vicsar:  Was it faster before?
[04:12] <NickyB> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[04:12] <MACscr> basically im going to try to get my third monitor to work and if i screw things up, im hoping to be able to restore my configs/settings
[04:12] <MACscr> easily
[04:12] <vicsar> @NewWorld yes, 800+ up 250+ down
[04:13] <histo> buttons840: let me get you a link explaining
[04:13] <histo> a94060: that is not correct
[04:13] <ZykoticK9> MACscr, not currently really - the file system by Sun/Oracle xfs does have a very similar restore option however (so maybe someday)
[04:13] <NewWorld> MACscr:  Can't think of anything like that... you could backup the relevant files though
[04:13] <NickyB> hey so why would my router have a different mac address listed than what I see in ifconfig?
[04:13] <karrot> how can I install gnome on 10.04 server.  I can just do apt-get install gnome, or should I get some modified gnome or something?
[04:13] <vicsar> @NewWorld i just cant understand what changed
[04:13] <Doyle> vicsar: does the system monitor indicate a high amount of network bandwidth all the time? Are you using torrent software? Do you use Electric Sheep? If it's wireless, login to your routers webmin and make sure no one is stealing bandwidth.
[04:13] <ZykoticK9> MACscr, sorry that ZFS not XFS
[04:13] <a94060> buttons840, ln -s <destination> <linkname> should be the way the link should be created,googled it
[04:14] <NewWorld> vicsar:  What did you do recently to do with system settings? Or with the router/network-interface?
[04:14] <a94060> if you are trying to make symlink
[04:14] <buttons840> a94060, yes, i read the man page
[04:14] <Izinucs> karrot: for a full desktop.. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. that'll get you gnome and all the associated programs
[04:14] <a94060> alrighty buttons840
[04:14] <histo> buttons840: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=310834 look at kpatz description
[04:14] <NewWorld> vicsar:  Have you tried another operating system on the same connection?
[04:14] <bruce> help! anybody here w/ grub2 experience?
[04:14] <karrot> Izinucs: thanks so much..... I suspected I needed some package
[04:14] <a94060> !grub2 | bruce
[04:14] <vicsar> @NewWorld that is the weird part, i did not change anything. No one else is using my bandwith it is wired.
[04:14] <Jordan_U> !anyone | bruce
[04:15] <NewWorld> vicsar:  Have you tried any other OS on this network?
[04:15] <vicsar> @NewWorld nope, i only use linux
[04:16] <Doyle> vicsar: done any bandwidth tests lately? May be an ISP issue.
[04:16] <bruce> ok. did a stupid thing...load 10.04 on my laptop (great). then loaded it on a usb drive. grub joined them both on a single menu. how do i separate them?
[04:16] <leagris> Are there any up to date (Lucid) howto/documentation on setting up LTSPs fat clients?
[04:16] <vicsar> @NewWorld but i have used other browsers, i use Firefox primarily
[04:16] <NewWorld> vicsar:  You could try booting to a livecd of a linux distro... or a windows Live CD (they exist) and seeing if it's an issue with your primary OS or the network.
[04:16] <buttons840> histo, thanks; that was my problem, i was using hard links
[04:16] <NewWorld> vicsar:  Did you try measuring your speed quantifiably, like with speedtest.net?
[04:17] <buttons840> can i undo a apt-get build-dep ?     like an uninstall or purge?
[04:17] <vicsar> @Doyle when i teest the speed it gives me the expected results but that speed is not reflect on normal browsing
[04:17] <classvoid> vicsar, mine had that problem too - my dsl router was causing the problem
[04:17] <anthony_> hi how can i install skype on my ubuntu 9.10
[04:17] <alket> bruce: does it make problems, or is just listing ?
[04:17] <Josesordo> hello all
[04:17] <classvoid> vicsar, errr well I run a 4 router setup - so really my dsl modem
[04:18] <classvoid> is there a universal keyboard shortcut in ubuntu gnome that opens the terminal app
[04:18] <Doyle> vicsar: I have the same issue, often I have to power cycle my router, or do a browser refrsh.
[04:18] <Josesordo> at least I could install ubuntu 10.04 LTS with the CD cuz the upgrade from 9.10 failed.. haha
[04:18] <paranoidandroid> Hey guys could I get some help with mounting an external hdd
[04:18] <bruce> alket: i want to be able to boot from the usb drive yes, but independent of the laptop
[04:18] <Doyle> classvoid: checkout guake terminal
[04:18] <NewWorld> vicsar:  I had that and it was because IPV6 was enabled. Try disabling it in Firefox via about:config
[04:19] <classvoid> Doyle, mine is because of the verizon firmware, I was going to flash it with actiontecs - i reset it and I got 3mb/s then a day later it started garbage again
[04:19] <vicsar> @Doyle Aclassvoid, i have recycled my router/modem... probably a reset is in place
[04:19] <anthony_> do we have skype on ubuntu
[04:19] <a94060> anthony_, yes
[04:19] <bruce> alket: i currently cannot boot the laptop w/out the usb drive present
[04:19] <anthony_> how can i install it
[04:19] <Jordan_U> bruce: Add "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true" to /etc/default/grub
[04:19] <a94060> sudo apt-get install skype
[04:19] <vicsar> @Doyle @Aclassvoid, bummer i might need to call my ISP
[04:19] <a94060> paranoidandroid, what type of filesystem?
[04:19] <classvoid> vicsar, yes I had to physically connect to my dsl after resetting modem/router and reconfigure it and it worked fine
[04:20] <anthony_> it wont work
[04:20] <paranoidandroid> ntfs
[04:20] <paranoidandroid> i can pm the error message
[04:20] <Josesordo> a question, to Install ATI driver (from their web page) here..I need to uninstall the ATI Linux Proprietary Driver?
[04:20] <bruce> Jordan_U: Lemme look. hold on...
[04:20] <alket> anthony_ go to www.skype.com/en
[04:20] <classvoid> then I just used my original router connected to the dsl router/modem to handle the network via internet port
[04:20] <arand> anthony_: a94060: That will require medibuntu, I think, but you could use the deb provided on the skype homepage.
[04:20] <leagris> NewWorld, when I had no IPv6 I used to alias net-pf-10 off and got ride of IPv6 system wide. Now using Sixxs IPv6 ayiya tunels and radvd on my lan, so I now need and use IPv6 :)
[04:20] <anthony_> ok thx
[04:21] <Jordan_U> bruce: Reading your other comments it seems that may not be what you want (and certainly isn't all you want)
[04:21] <Chaorain> Hi, I have a problem. When I installed Ubuntu I added a patition to /usr/lib/mythtv it was supposedto go to /var/lib/mythtv There is data in both directories. Is there a good way to fix this?
[04:21] <alket> anthony_ here is complet link http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/post-download/
[04:21] <bruce> Jordan_U: what do u mean?
[04:21] <vicsar> WELL I thnak you all for the time. i have to go to bed now but i will call my ISP tomorrow. Might see you again
[04:21] <a94060> arand, im pretty sure its included
[04:22] <Doyle> Chaorain: for convenience you might consider simply making a link
[04:22] <classvoid> vicsar, k sometimes it's me, sometimes it's verizon so eh
[04:22] <a94060> I lied,just checked
[04:22] <Doyle> vicsar: good luck
[04:22] <Jordan_U> bruce: The problem is that the system on the flash drive installed grub to the mbr of your internal drive, and is still configured to do so when there are grub updates.
[04:22] <fluorine> Chaorain: do you mean to say that you had meant to mount your partition on /var/lib/mythtv? then just edit your fstab.
[04:22] <NewWorld> leagris:  I just experienced and read that IPv6 can have a problem where it takes ages to resolve DNSs.. so it appears that you're internet is slower, but it's only that DNS issue. I disabled it and voiila; all good
[04:22] <vicsar> @classvoid yup, that would be RACSA in my case
[04:22] <vicsar> @Doyle Thank you
[04:23] <justinlilly> anyone familiar with an issue in byobu which prevents ctrl+s from working?
[04:23] <justinlilly> works in emacs from normal terminal, but doesn't work in emacs from within byobu. thoughts?
[04:23] <Jordan_U> bruce: Since grub needs both the portion in the MBR, and the portion in /boot, when you try to boot without the external plugged in grub looks for its /boot and can't find it (because it isn't there)
[04:23] <bruce> Jordan_U: that's correct. So I need to add grub to the usb drive and change the entry on the internal drive...
[04:24] <Jordan_U> bruce: First, boot into the system that's on the flash drive and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc". That will ask a few questions, leave all but "install devices" at their default (some will be blank, that's fine).
[04:25] <paranoidandroid> i have a problem mounting an external hdd, could someone help?
[04:25] <bruce> Jordan_U: are you going to be here for a bit? I'd like to try that now....
[04:25] <Jordan_U> bruce: Then, boot into the system on the hard drive and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc -pcritical" which will just re-install grub to the internal drive.
[04:26] <Jordan_U> bruce: Yes, I will be (though I may be in and out, so if I don't answer for a few minutes just wait).
[04:26] <bruce> Jordan_U: cool. will be back in a few... cya...
[04:27] <leetsweden> :P
[04:27] <DatTape> what is the ubuntu default l/p
[04:27] <DatTape> when u install it
[04:27] <DatTape> to get on it
[04:27] <pinPoint> man! its nice to have my dell mini running 9.10. I just looks cool!!!
[04:28] <alket> DatTape what is I/p
[04:28] <quiescens> login/password
[04:28] <quiescens> and, its whatever you entered when it asked you to choose a login and password
[04:29] <alket> DatTape it's what you have choosen, but in live cd username is ubuntu and there is no password
[04:29] <Josesordo> How I can change root password?.. I just recently installed this ubuntu :D
[04:29] <bastid_raZor> !root | Josesordo
[04:30] <alket> pinPoint i really like to have dell mini with ubuntu but i can't get it beacuse i live in the country where it's not shipped
[04:30] <Josesordo> mm I see.. but in older distro.. I could change root user password.. xD
[04:30] <bastid_raZor> Josesordo: it is not support in this channel.
[04:31] <alket> Josesordo: If you have root previleges and want to change your password, just go to System / Preferences / About me
[04:31] <brandon__> how do i open a rar file with linux
[04:31] <alket> brandon__ sudo apt-get install rar
[04:31] <bastid_raZor> !rar | brandon__
[04:31] <fodder70> use synaptic search unrar, two options one is free
[04:32] <Talelo> hijos de puta
[04:33] <Josesordo> brb..restarting
[04:34] <Izinucs> !language | Talelo
[04:34] <Talelo> ok
[04:35] <JackStoner> !rules | JackStoner
[04:35] <Sp0tter> if you had 4  500gig hard drives to setup your linux desktop, what raid or configuration w ould you use, and what file system(s)?  mainly for development usage
[04:35] <alket> !rules | alket
[04:36] <alket> just curios :P
[04:36] <Doyle> Sp0tter: 10 if your card supports it... my preference
[04:36] <Sp0tter> software raid
[04:36] <Sp0tter> sorry shold of specified
[04:37] <Doyle> !rules | Doyle
[04:37] <Babalabon> is there any way to put the window buttons on the other side in ubuntu 10.4
[04:37] <bastid_raZor> !controls | Babalabon
[04:37] <alket> Babalabon yes there is an easy way with http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[04:38] <todkon> anyone know if there's a way to enable "genius" for iPhone through Rhythmbox?
[04:38] <IdleOne> alket: http://alturl.com/x5d6 just as easy and no need to install anything
[04:39] <alket> IdleOne yes of course but i prefer ubuntu tweak
[04:40] <NiteSnow> Hello, I'm having an issue with the RTL8185 Wireless card in my laptop I ran lsmod and it's using the wrong driver and it won't let me connect to wifi I'm running 10.04 x64
[04:41] <karrot> how can I use irc through pidgin?
[04:41] <todkon> karrot: go to accounts  and enable an irc login
[04:42] <todkon> its pretty straight forward with pidgin
[04:42] <Izinucs> karrot: why would you want to .. it's a good IM client but is terrible at IRC
[04:42] <todkon> I agree with Izinucs
[04:42] <NiteSnow> yeah xchat is far better
[04:42] <todkon> or irssi
[04:42] <Izinucs> or iriis
[04:42] <Izinucs> what todkon said :)
[04:43] <NiteSnow> eh irssi is a bit primitive and hard to use for most users
[04:43] <alket> Izinucs: it's not that badd  , it's has pluggins that make it better : Xchat Chats, IRC More, IRC Helper. ..
[04:43] <bsmith093> is there something that will md5sum a crapload of files and delete the dupes
[04:43] <todkon> it is the "the client of the future" according to their website header
[04:43] <karrot> Izinucs: just gonna give it a try? See if I like it
[04:43] <bsmith093> or in some way find the dupes
[04:43] <pinPoint> alket: that sucks
[04:43] <bruce_> Jordan_U: u still here?
[04:43] <Izinucs> NiteSnow: primitive no. but hard for most users .. yea.. you have to get use to it.
[04:44] <bsmith093> quick please its alomost mignight in new york and i want to get to bed
[04:44] <todkon> and like most open source/free software, there's endless documentation, tutorials, and howtos
[04:44] <Jordan_U> bruce_: Yes
[04:44] <NiteSnow> Izinucs, by primitive i mean it's command line based
[04:44] <todkon> command line will nevar dieeee!1
[04:44] <NiteSnow> Nope
[04:45] <NiteSnow> Does anyone know anything about the RTL8185 on Ubuntu 10.04
[04:45] <bruce_> Jordan_U: I'd like to let everyone here know that Jordan_U is a freakin' genius! (in other words...it worked) Thanks.
[04:45] <NiteSnow> cause it is giving me issues
[04:45] <Izinucs> NiteSnow: ah.. yes.. I don't consider that primitive though.. irssi with screen is unbeatable when you're diagnosing things and need to shut down the gui
[04:45] <Jordan_U> bruce_: You're welcome :)
[04:45] <NiteSnow> yeah true
[04:45] <karrot1> haha! I'm using pidgin!
[04:45] <karrot1> that's karate right there
[04:45] <NiteSnow> Izinucs, i use irssi through putty when im not at my home pc :D
[04:45] <bruce_> Jordan_U: how is it that you know how to do that, but when I looked it up on the ubuntu.org they didn't....
[04:46] <bastid_raZor> !cookie | Jordan_U
[04:46] <bruce_> ubottu: was that sarcasm?
[04:46] <NickyB> would anyone know why my hwaddr in ifconfig is different than what I am seeing on the router?
[04:46] <NiteSnow> ubottu know nothing !
[04:46] <NiteSnow> ubottu knows nothing !*
[04:47] <brayden> Izinucs, the problem with running irssi if your'e in a console is it takes up the whole screen and consoles cannot multi task, you'd have to connect to your PC through another PC via SSH or telnet to be able to multi task, or else irssi will steal your whole screen and you can't diagnose anything
[04:47] <karrot1> that bot knows far more than I
[04:47] <Flannel> brayden: screen
[04:47] <Flannel> !screen | brayden
[04:47] <brayden> Flannel, ohhh
[04:47] <Izinucs> brayden: that's why you use "screen"..
[04:47] <sine> guys
[04:47] <brayden> I never heard of it, i only ever used putty for that sort of stuff
[04:47] <sine> i cant find my trashcan
[04:47] <sine> on kk
[04:47] <karrot1> Can anyone help me with why my computer just freezes until I press a key on the keyboard?
[04:47] <Izinucs> !screen | brayden
[04:47] <Flannel> brayden: This runs serverside, so you'll still use PuTTy
[04:48] <brayden> k
[04:48] <brayden> I barely use linux anymore. only for running IRCds. it's so sad, i used to be fairly good with it.
[04:48] <NickyB> would anyone know why my hwaddr in ifconfig is different than what I am seeing on the router?
[04:48] <alket> sine: right click on gnome panel and then Add to Panel and search for Trash
[04:49] <sine> alket: thanks pal i got it
[04:49] <alket> sine:np
[04:50] <shayisaac> emm ... let see today ... anyone with FireWire and KINO knowledge?
[04:50] <shayisaac> there are few solutions given yesterday to me ... but still failed
[04:50] <shayisaac> siGh
[04:50] <Izinucs> shayisaac: yea.. mine hasn't worked since 8.04 :(
[04:52] <shayisaac> Izinucs, erk ... adoi ... urs one is external card or built-in bro?
[04:52] <Izinucs> shayisaac: 3rd party internal
[04:53] <shayisaac> Izinucs, i believe that it is a PC - rite coz my one is external card as i'm using a notebook
[04:53] <shayisaac> Izinucs, i juz want to make this ubuntu able to read the hardware
[04:54] <todkon> I noticed in the last 2 Ubuntu releases, they obliterated ctrl+alt+del to restart Xorg
[04:54] <todkon> what's the new binding, if there is one? I keep accidentally pressing it every few months
[04:54] <Izinucs> shayisaac: it's a VIA VT6306
[04:55] <bastid_raZor> todkon: you could use alt+SysRq+K
[04:55] <NiteSnow> Does anyone know anything about wireless cards here ?
[04:55] <Josesordo> Where is the menu.lst of the GRUB 2 in ubuntu 10.04 LTS?
[04:55] <Izinucs> !wireless | NiteSnow all I know about them --->
[04:55] <NiteSnow> LOL
[04:55] <NiteSnow> i checked their already
[04:55] <todkon> bastid_raZor: sweet, thanks, I must have pressed that a few times.. >_>
[04:56] <NiteSnow> joeshowradio, /boot/ look there
[04:56] <Josesordo> I did it already.. /boot/grub/ but dont exit the menu.lst file o_O... weird
[04:57] <shayisaac> Izinucs, owh. anything that u did try and can suggest for me to try?
[04:57] <NiteSnow> Josesordo, you would think it should be where it's suposed to be
[04:58] <rednFL> Hi anyone have errors on exiting - lucid l
[04:58] <rednFL> ?
[04:58] <Loshki> Josesordo: menu.lst is gone, 10.04 runs grub2, the config is completely different...
[04:58] <Loshki> !grub | Josesordo
[04:58] <karrot> I have the worst, most unsolvable problem ever
[04:58] <Izinucs> shayisaac: It's been several months since I've tried and my memory has faded.. I seem to remember a package in the repos.. search ieeee1394
[04:58] <Loshki> !grub2 | Josesordo
[04:59] <Josesordo> mm let me test with sudo upgrade-grub ..
[05:00] <RProgrammer> Does anyone's firefox crash when going to this site?: http://www-igm.univ-mlv.fr/~lecroq/string/node15.html
[05:00] <Josesordo> another question, I installed the ATI driver from ati.com, but after reboot.. there is message about Propietary drivers for Linux.. and sais is not activated
[05:01] <Loshki> RProgrammer: works fine in my 3.0.16 on 8.04 LTS
[05:01] <RProgrammer> How about 10.04
[05:02] <Loshki> RProgrammer: I couldn't tell you, I'm running 8.04...
[05:02] <RProgrammer> ok
[05:02] <Loshki> RProgrammer: usually it's due to some add-on. The only way to tell is to remove them one by one, sorry...
[05:02] <RProgrammer> I get "Segmentation Fault" on stdout
[05:02] <rednFL> rprogrammer nope seems to work fine on mine - opened in LL
[05:03] <RProgrammer> And some message from glib about str array asserts failing
[05:03] <rednFL> rprogrammer - I am using 3.6.3 -
[05:03] <MACscr> is there a gui that works for p7zip on a 64bit system?
[05:03] <Aji-Dahaka> I have motorokr headphones.  They are working great as output devices, but the control buttons aren't doing anything.  Is there a way to get the controls working?
[05:04] <RProgrammer> I think it's an OpenJDK/IcedTea problem
[05:05] <rednFL> rprogrammer - have you seen what updates may be available - I dont know - but I link fine - wireless - on an old p4
[05:05] <MACscr> also, what the name of ubunto 10.4? I see people talking about stuff like hardy and intrepid, etc, but i have no idea what the name is for the current version
[05:05] <RProgrammer> Anyone using 10.04 with the latest Firefox and OpenJDK from the official repositories?
[05:05] <RProgrammer> MACscr: Lucid
[05:06] <MACscr> RProgrammer: thanks
[05:06] <rednFL> macscr  Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[05:06] <rednFL>                 - the Lucid Lynx - released in April 2010 and supported until April 2013.
[05:06] <rednFL> 	
[05:06] <rednFL> seems faster than 19.04
[05:07] <RProgrammer> This site also does it: http://www.kccommunications.com/htdocs/oui.htm
[05:07] <rednFL> little slower loading but faster otherwise
[05:07] <Devrethman> Is there a way to input funny characters (i.e. ä) in a terminal?
[05:08] <MACscr> sry, i should have noted the answer last night, but what is the recommended way for unraring files?
[05:08] <tju8896> hello
[05:08] <caprajax> need help with openoffice
[05:08] <MACscr> i thought 7zip would be the answer, but it doesnt have a gui =/
[05:09] <RProgrammer> apt-get install unrar-free
[05:09] <RProgrammer> or apt-get install unrar
[05:09] <Izinucs> !unrar | MACscr
[05:09] <fodder70> MACscr use synaptic search unrar, use the free one
[05:09] <Loshki> MACscr: the names go alphabetically, which helps to remember them...
[05:09] <MACscr> Loshki: thanks
[05:10] <caprajax> need help with openoffice!
[05:10] <enav> hello.... im learning about UWF...   but i got a quick question... all ports are blocked by default???
[05:12] <cc_will> hi all, may I ask if anyone else using ubuntu 10.04 LTS has noticed that the icons situated right on the main panel bar (top right) drift to the left resulting in a visible gap ...
[05:13] <Loshki> enav: I think so, to make it easier to configure, but I don't use it myself...
[05:13] <ARandomNub> Can anyone direct me to a guide for installing wine/ or tell me how to do it?
[05:13] <ARandomNub> ;)
[05:13] <enav> i dont even understand the meaning of gap... i google it but i still not understanding that term
[05:13] <Loshki> !wine | ARandomNub
[05:14] <enav> ARandomNub  why you want to use wine?
[05:15] <cc_will> ... a significant space on the panel between the (time/date/calendar) utility and the (icons/power buttom metaphor)
[05:15] <cc_will> button*
[05:15] <ARandomNub> enav: I've got various different windows appications I may or may not find useful
[05:15] <wasabi_> is there anyway to rebind empathy's window close key from ctrl+w to esc?
[05:16] <wasabi_> i've been googling this and the only thing i've seen are comments about how absurd that request is
[05:16] <datakid> I've checked out a django app from github. can I just put it into /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages? or is it better form to change my python path?
[05:16] <enav> ARandomNub  my personal opinion is that wine is unstable... i just install virtualbox to run windows app onder win Xp... everithing work like a charm
[05:16] <enav> ARandomNub but the final choise is yours
[05:16] <wasabi_> btw why did empathy become the native client for ubuntu instead of pidgin?
[05:17] <ARandomNub> enav: I'll try wine, see what goes :)
[05:17] <datakid> wasabi_, I think it was with 9.10
[05:17] <enav> ARandomNub  alright to install wine is easy... just open software centre and type wine
[05:17] <ARandomNub> I did :)
[05:17] <wasabi_> yea it was
[05:18] <ARandomNub> enav: for instance, I just ran Steam and it loaded without error :)
[05:18] <ARandomNub> No font issues, or anything :D
[05:18] <genmaxima> Hey
[05:18] <Blurpeace> Hello, I'd like to install a virtual OS of Windows XP on my Ubuntu 10.04 system
[05:18] <genmaxima> thunderbird does not seem to open on Lucid upgrade
[05:18] <Blurpeace> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[05:18] <genmaxima> it was working for a while
[05:18] <CogitoErgoSam> !virtualbox | Blurpeace
[05:18] <wasabi_> datakid, i saw that with 9.10 but at the time it didn't matter cause i wasn't chatting as much. but now that i start to use empathy more and more, i find it a bit annoying to have to ctrl+w to close window instead of the normal esc prevalent with many im clients
[05:18] <enav> ARandomNub steam is already coding a version for ubuntu
[05:19] <ARandomNub> enav: I know, but this is just one of many apps :)
[05:19] <Blurpeace> <3 CogitoErgoSam I'll take a look
[05:19] <enav> ARandomNub very good
[05:19] <aendruk> Can I turn my 32-bit Ubuntu installation into 64-bit without having to do a fresh installation?
[05:19] <wasabi_> datakid, so i guess the only way to remap it is to edit the source and compile my own version right?
[05:19] <Tw|sT> Good evening everyone.   On Ubuntu 8.04.3-LTS, I had XDMCP & vnc4server configured to push GDM logins to VNC connections.  For some reason, I can't seem to get this to work under Ubuntu 10.04-LTS.  Does anyone know what the differences are in respects to getting that going again?
[05:19] <enav> ARandomNub  after install wine you will se a new chose on your menu relat to wine
[05:19] <bastid_raZor> aendruk: no.
[05:19] <ARandomNub> enav: Is Winetools the thing where I get a list of stuff, like direct x and etc?
[05:20] <enav> ARandomNub   yep
[05:20] <ARandomNub> enav: Thought so; I'm checking thatn ow.
[05:20] <wasabi_> datakid, the empathy channel didn't seem very happy when i asked about this so it leads me to believe that there isn't any options for it
[05:20] <enav> ARandomNub but up to DX9.b
[05:20] <CogitoErgoSam> Tw|sT, what kind of error are you getting.  Authentication error at GDM login, or xauth error?
[05:20] <zoran119> hey people
[05:20] <emprameen> hello person
[05:20] <enav> wasabi_"the empathy channel didn't seem very happy "  LOL
[05:20] <wasabi_> well i did ask
[05:21] <wasabi_> and they said why? ctrl+w works fine
[05:21] <zoran119> i have a ubuntu 8.04lts running as a virtual machine under hyper-v and a couple times a day the time would get stuck in a 5 second loop
[05:21] <zoran119> any idea on how to fix this?
[05:21] <wasabi_> i asked if there's a way to remap it and the answer was deal with it
[05:21] <wasabi_> it's not pidgin
[05:21] <datakid> wasabi_, you will note that ctrl-w is also how to close windows in IE, Chrome, Chromium, Firefox, Xchat....
[05:21] <datakid> it's also pretty standard
[05:21] <datakid> you may not have come across it before, but the empathy mob didn't just pull it out of nowhere
[05:22] <enav> wasabi_   i read some where that pidgin is hardcoded and unstable... that is the main reason of the chenge...  any way i think empathy is kinda ugly in many ways  i just stay with pidgin... indeed  im using pidgin to IRC right now
[05:22] <CogitoErgoSam> wasabi_, I assume you only want it remapped for that one program, right?  Otherwise you can remap it for the system in the control panels
[05:22] <wasabi_> no i understand, but usually there's a way to remap the function to another key
[05:22] <voss749> enav, I just use chatzilla
[05:22] <wasabi_> yea i just want to remap empathy
[05:23] <wasabi_> enav, pidgin has a filled called accels and that as gives you remapping functionality
[05:23] <wasabi_> oops has a file*
[05:23] <CogitoErgoSam> wasabi_, I think the problem here is that a lot of these programs delegate the control of window-management functions to gtk libraries
[05:24] <CogitoErgoSam> so you probably can't remap it in empathy because empathy isn't managing that functionality
[05:24] <wasabi_> CogitoErgoSam, understood
[05:24] <enav> ARandomNub  ok let continue... after install wine you will be able to install windows program with a simple and dangerous double click ... like M$ does
[05:25] <ARandomNub> enav: I know
[05:25] <ARandomNub> enav: When I run wine tools, it tells me to direct it to a file to install
[05:25] <mihir> hello friends
[05:25] <ARandomNub> enav: Last time I used wine tools, I opened it through Terminal and I got a big list
[05:25] <CogitoErgoSam> wasabi_, you could do a kind of work-around by hooking a script to the key combo, like through compiz.  Within the script you could probably find the right window and close it.
[05:26] <XpL0Z> hi
[05:26] <hmw> i moved partitions with the live cd but tha first partition is now "sda2" - is this just a bug / how can I manipulate the MBR to make the partitions appear in order (i want to dd a system and would like to prevent adjusting fstab, etc)
[05:26] <XpL0Z> idk
[05:26] <wasabi_> CogitoErgoSam, that is a good suggestion. i will give that a try
[05:26] <Tw|sT> CogitoErgoSam: It's simply refused to connect (I'm using UltraVNC Client v1.0.6.4)
[05:26] <wasabi_> thanks!
[05:27] <mihir> i am getting message of malware affected your system and the virus is of windows
[05:27] <pakete> hi all
[05:27] <CogitoErgoSam> Tw|sT, which vnc server are you using
[05:27] <emprameen> hello, pakete
[05:27] <pakete> mihir: it is because you haven't upgraded via new update kit
[05:27] <enav> hey wasabi_  check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkHJKakHMpo
[05:28] <pakete> can anyone suggest what should i do with crazy plymouth?
[05:28] <mihir> how to upgrade
[05:28] <pakete> how to reconfigure it?
[05:28] <wasabi_> enav, lol
[05:28] <enav> wasabi_  Wazaaaaaaaaabeeee
[05:28] <pakete> mihir: just type in your console" sudo -s do update kit malware delete
[05:29] <pakete> i forgot the command to reconfigure plymouth, please help!
[05:29] <CogitoErgoSam> Tw|sT, pm me and I can try to help
[05:30] <pakete> it doesn't show any splashy screens on boot up!!! what a...
[05:30] <pakete> please suggest what can be done with plymouth
[05:31] <ynk> hello people.
[05:31] <daniel> hello do you guys know if its possible to get a stack like mac os in docky for ubuntu
[05:31] <alket> hello ynk
[05:31] <CogitoErgoSam> daniel:  I'm pretty sure theres a docky one, and I am positive there is for AWN (Avant window manager)
[05:32] <CogitoErgoSam> daniel:  err that's avant window navigator, not manager
[05:32] <pakete> Daniel: yes it is possible, but first you will have to upgrade your update kit
[05:32] <pakete> because if you have malware, you can'r use a dock
[05:32] <ynk> anyone have experience with installing eclipse? it seems it doesn't really "install" per say. you just download the tar.gz and extract it to a folder. i'd like to INSTALL it.. but i don't want the version from Synaptic.
[05:33] <piffer> anyone here running snort 2.8.6 on Karmic?
[05:33] <pakete> ynk: try update kit
[05:33] <CogitoErgoSam> pakete stop giving out crap advice
[05:33] <daniel> pakete can you show me how to upgrade the update kit.....i thought linux was malware safe for the most part
[05:33] <pakete> Cogito: well maybe anyone can finally give me ANY advice on plymouth?
[05:34] <CogitoErgoSam> daniel:  Don't listen to him he's spouting the same gibberish crap to everyone's question
[05:34] <alket> !ban | pakete
[05:34] <daniel> CogitoErgoSam ok thanks
[05:34] <ynk> pakete: excuse my ignorance, but you'll have to be a little more descriptive than that. what did you want me to do?
[05:34] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  Ignore him.
[05:34] <pinPoint> is it possible for me to migrate my settings from gnome to like flux/black-box? Like in gnome my wifi automatically connects upon login but fluxbox/blackbox fails
[05:34] <mihir> what to type in terminal root@mihir-laptop:~#
[05:34] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk he was giving wrong advice because he was getting emo over not having his question answered
[05:35] <pakete> can anyone advice ANYthing on plymouth????
[05:35] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: haha, that's hilarious.
[05:35] <ynk> thanks for the heads up.
[05:35] <pakete> seems like you just watch for trolls, no real support on this channel so far
[05:35] <CogitoErgoSam> pakete if someone knew they'd say it.  Deal with it and either wait for someone or go elsewhere
[05:36] <enav> pakete troll are normal some times here... they login here just for fun
[05:36] <pakete> Cogito: join windows
[05:36] <Blurpeace> Alright, CogitoErgoSam, I've got the VM software up, but I've hit a snag.
[05:36] <pakete> first
[05:36] <CogitoErgoSam> !kick pakete
[05:36] <pakete> enav: agree 100%
[05:36] <pakete> Ban CogitoErgoSam!
[05:36] <mihir> what to type in terminal root@mihir-laptop:~#
[05:37] <Blurpeace> How do I eject the CD Drive during installation, Cogito?
[05:37] <pakete> Cogito is hidden fan of #windows channel
[05:37] <pakete> undercover
[05:37] <CaptainTrek> !ot
[05:37] <enav> mihir what is your question ???
[05:37] <CogitoErgoSam> Blurpeace, what's the snag?
[05:37] <pakete> plymouth...what is the command in console to reconfigure it? please advice - it is so simple
[05:37] <pakete> but i forgot...TIA
[05:39] <pakete> helo!
[05:39] <mihir> i want to update malware kit and for that i have typed sudo -s in terminal and it asked me password after that it asked me root@mihir-laptop:~#
[05:39] <CogitoErgoSam> pakete http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+configure+plymouth
[05:39] <Blurpeace> CogitoErgoSam, because I have an upgrade disc, I need to insert my old OS's disc.
[05:39] <Blurpeace> But the drive won't eject.
[05:39] <Blurpeace> Probably because it's mounted on the virtual machine.
[05:39] <piffer> what is a good hashing tool for ubuntu? I want to hash some files, so that I can verify that they have not changed later on..
[05:39] <pakete> Cogito you link me to malware site
[05:39] <Blurpeace> Any way to rectify this? :)
[05:39] <pakete> whhy?
[05:40] <pakete> Ban Cogito!
[05:40] <CogitoErgoSam> Blurpeace, you can mount an iso
[05:40] <Blurpeace> BTW, someone should probably kick him.
[05:40] <pakete> Cogito spreading windows malware...it is why we have to upgrade update kit urgently
[05:40] <Blurpeace> So I'd have to convert my discs into ISOs, Cogito?
[05:40] <alket> MANY BOTS HERE
[05:40] <Blurpeace> Huh, that's bothersome. :\
[05:41] <pakete> by the way, some kreepy dev changed the ability to sudo -s, as i promised before lynx release. but noone actually solved Plymouth problem....
[05:41] <pakete> why?
[05:42] <pakete> anyone give simple advice without malware please?
[05:42] <mihir> i want to upload screenshot how i can
[05:42] <piffer> .. nevermind just found md5sum
[05:42] <hmw> pakete: because you payed to little
[05:42] <pakete> piffer: use update kit
[05:42] <CogitoErgoSam> Blurpeace, its just one possible fix; I'm sure there are other ways.  I don't think I have the best picture of your full setup though
[05:42] <tony_> Hey, cool guys. What's the terminal command for replacing directories, even those under /usr/?
[05:42] <alket> pakete: you are malware here, please ban your self.
[05:42] <Flannel> pakete: Please stay ontopic and helpful, thanks.
[05:42] <pakete> hmw: payment's under way, use update kit!
[05:42] <mneptok> alket: please be polite.
[05:43] <Flannel> CogitoErgoSam: Please be polite.  Linking to that site, or even to google, as support is not helpful.
[05:43] <hmw> tony_: what are you trying to achieve?
[05:43] <tony_> I am trying to update /mozilla/ in Supertuxkart.
[05:43] <pakete> Cogito is undercover troll from #windows
[05:43] <tony_> c:
[05:43] <mihir> can anyone help me how to upgrade malware kit
[05:43] <CogitoErgoSam> Flannel:  That was in response to his repeated spamming of people with questions, and after I asked him to wait for someone who knew the answer and not spam.
[05:44] <CogitoErgoSam> Flannel:  Regardless though, I stopped even talking to him, so its a moot point
[05:44] <andypea> Is anyone here familiar with preseed/automated installs?
[05:44] <Flannel> CogitoErgoSam: I don't care whether he's spamming or not, it doesn't allow you to be rude to anyone.
[05:44] <pakete> mihir: just type as i said before...but don't think it is possible anymore...if you use Lynx
[05:44] <pakete> try Koala - may help
[05:44] <tony_> hmw: I'm updating /mozilla/ in Supertuxkart. I tried mv -u but that didn't really work.
[05:44] <Flannel> pakete: Stop being misleading and offtopic.
[05:44] <hmw> !sudo | tony_: you might need permissions. You can always use sudo to get elevated rights, but you need to take care.
[05:44] <pakete> Lynx is getting as much malware as windows now
[05:45] <CogitoErgoSam> thanks
[05:45] <Blurpeace> Nice.
[05:45] <alket> thank you Flanel
[05:45] <Blurpeace> >_>
[05:45] <Flannel> mihir: What is "malware kit"?
[05:45] <Blurpeace> CogitoErgoSam, trying to install Windows XP Pro with an upgrade disc on Ubuntu 10.04
[05:46] <mihir> i have typed as you said but what to write at root@mihir-laptop:~#
[05:46] <CogitoErgoSam> Blurpeace, the win xp disc is an upgrade one?
[05:46] <Flannel> mihir: What are you trying to do?
[05:46] <Blurpeace> Yeah, but I have my prior OS disc.
[05:46] <pakete> mihir: there is no malware kit - there is update kit that eliminates malware
[05:46] <Blurpeace> So I just need to insert that and I can install.
[05:46] <tony_> ubottu and hmw: Sorry, sorry, yes, I used sudo as well, but the command didn't work, it told me that the directory was already there, so I think I am supposed to use a different command for replacing a directory. I'm alright, though, I'm only doing this to replace a directory under a game.
[05:46] <CogitoErgoSam> flannel and mihir:  Ignore that, it was the bad advice from pakete
[05:46] <pakete> ubottu sucks
[05:46] <CogitoErgoSam> flannel and mihir:  he keeps telling people that all their problems are malware and they need some kit
[05:46] <tony_> ubottu: Awww, don't insult yourself!
[05:47] <hmw> tony_: i see. I am not sure, how to do it properly, but moving the old directory out of the way (perhaps dirname.OLD) and then simply using cp -r should do the trick then.
[05:47] <Blurpeace> Should probably +b him. :\
[05:47] <hmw> lol@ubottu
[05:47] <Blurpeace> Cogito, yeah, it's an upgrade disc, but if I can insert my prior OS disc, it'll install fine.
[05:48] <mihir> cogitoergosam: how to upload screenshot
[05:48] <Blurpeace> Works the same as a regular install.
[05:48] <tony_> hmw: I'll give it a shot. Thanks very much, I'll report back later.
[05:48] <CogitoErgoSam> !pb | mihir
[05:48] <pakete> is there anyone who is a spec in Plymouth?
[05:48] <pakete> please no link to malware sites
[05:48] <Flannel> pakete: Its best to just ask your question.
[05:49] <pakete> i did ask a question: type it again: no boot splash on restart
[05:49] <CogitoErgoSam> Blurpeace, quickest and surest bet is to probably just burn one of them to an image so you dont' need to swap at all
[05:49] <CogitoErgoSam> Blurpeace, it wouldn't take very long
[05:49] <Blurpeace> how do you mean no swap?
[05:50] <Blurpeace> id theoretically have to use two ISOs, regardless
[05:50] <pakete> swap is for malware kits only
[05:50] <pakete> who knows anything on plymooth malware? please advice
[05:51] <enav> pakete what are you talkinga bout
[05:51] <CogitoErgoSam> Blurpeace, I think I'm misunderstanding your situation.  Which OS is installed on the disk right now?  How many cd drives, etc
[05:51] <alket> pakete I know plymouth malware
[05:51] <Devrethman> Awesome, ubuntu just installed GRUB with an incorrect video configuration.
[05:51] <Devrethman> and now my desktop can't boot
[05:51] <pakete> enav, do you know how to reconfig plymouth - i have no boot splash since i installed final lts
[05:51] <pakete> ?
[05:51] <Jordan_U> alket: Please don't feed the troll
[05:52] <alket> Jordan_U I'm trying him to focus on me so can leave others alone
[05:52] <mihir> this is my pastebin url http://pastebin.com/aSXdibC2
[05:52] <enav> pakete http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+forums+plymouth+configuration
[05:52] <Flannel> He's taken care of guys, go back to your regularly scheduled support :)
[05:52] <brah-> Jordan_U calling someone a troll is hardly productive, if anything you're only making the situation worse, this individual is a person just as you are
[05:52] <mihir> it was a screenshot of malware attack
[05:52] <Blurpeace> Cogito, I am currently running Ubuntu 10.04. I have one CD drive. I have installed VirtualBox and am attempting to install Windows XP Professional. Because I own an upgrade disc, during installation, I must insert my prior OS disc (I own a Windows 98 full install disc) to continue. I cannot eject my CD drive to replace the XP disc with the 98 disc so I cannot continue with the installation.
[05:52] <Devrethman> Okay seriously, ubuntu just melted my desktop's bootloader.
[05:53] <Blurpeace> How do I eject the drive so that I can swap the discs, Cogito?
[05:53] <Devrethman> Like, I can't see anything.
[05:53] <Devrethman> I installed with the alternate CD, cause I figured "what kind of linux distro is going to be arrogant enough to think it can tetect my video settings in the bootloader"
[05:54] <Devrethman> and lo and behold, grub loads, and my screen starts flashing pink and broken
[05:54] <CogitoErgoSam> Blurpeace:  You can burn one of the windows cd's to an image on your computer.  Then, it gets mounted as if it was in a cd drive.  That way, both cd's will appear to your system to be mounted.
[05:54] <Devrethman> and I can't do anything
[05:54] <hmw> Blurpeace: did you try the "Devices" menu?
[05:54] <Devrethman> I can hear little "you can't scroll this far" if I mash arrow keys
[05:54] <mihir> how to delete malware from ubuntu
[05:54] <enav> mihir  where are you from
[05:54] <Shoruken> how to shot web
[05:54] <CogitoErgoSam> mihir:  There really isn't any.  Pakete was making that stuff up.
[05:54] <hmw> !virus | mihir
[05:54] <Blurpeace> hmw, I have not. :\
[05:55] <mihir> ubottu: i am getting error while using firefox
[05:55] <Flannel> mihir: Which error?
[05:56] <Blurpeace> Cogito, how would I go about converting my 98 disc into an ISO?
[05:56] <mihir> i have a screeshot tell me how to upload
[05:56] <enav> im pretty sure "mihir  and other 3 user"  are bot just spaming stupid questions
[05:56] <Urda> #ubuntu-server is dead tonight, but real quick. Would anybody know why I would be unable to boot into a fresh ubuntu-server install?
[05:56] <hmw> Blurpeace: you should be able to unmount the disk in said menu
[05:57] <adamkex> where is the password file for the chromium browser? .config/chromium/Default/databases/Databases.db ?
[05:57] <enav> Urda  lol  is not dead  they are busy
[05:57] <Flannel> mihir: Go to http://imagebin.org/ and upload it there
[05:57] <alket> Urda: It's not dad, the majority is Idle
[05:57] <Blurpeace> hmw, presumably not while the installation is running. Besides, I attempted that and it would not unmount.
[05:57] <Urda> enav: well fark. alket :\
[05:57] <hmw> Blurpeace: i see... hmm...
[05:57] <Urda> I've never seen an install do this before
[05:57] <binare> Urda: mayb some hw probs...
[05:58] <alket> Urda: does it display error
[05:58] <Devrethman> How do I make ubuntu not think that it knows what kind of graphics setup I have
[05:58] <Devrethman> because it clearly has no idea, but thinks it does.
[05:58] <Urda> alket: nope blinks an underscore for a secod then nothing
[05:58] <Devrethman> in the bootloader no less
[05:58] <hmw> Blurpeace: you should be able to mount a second disk, perhaps you have 2 drives and windows accepts the disk on another drive. If that will not work, I doubt making ISOs will help
[05:58] <enav> Urda  what version of USE are you installing
[05:58] <hmw> Blurpeace: you should be able to unmount, as far as the drive is not in use, and since you are asked to insert another disk, it's quite weird
[05:58] <Urda> enav: sorry, 10.04
[05:59] <ayi> A message popped up on my boot splash screen and quickly disappeared. The message was something like: "One of the entries in fstab failed to mount". Everything seems to be in working order though, and all entries in fstab are mounted(/, /var, /home/)
[05:59] <Urda> x86
[05:59] <binare> Urda What's the hw specs?
[05:59] <enav> Urda on a real machine or virtual machine?
[05:59] <Devrethman> also, whose idea was it to get rid of ctrl-alt-F1-6?
[05:59] <shawnboy> Anybody know how to fix MPlayer errors "initializing video filters (-vf) and video output (-vo)"?
[05:59] <Urda> enav: real machines, identical dell desktops
[05:59] <enav> Urda intel a guess
[05:59] <Urda> both boxes are doing it, but I can reach a recovery kernel I think
[05:59] <mihir> ok i have uploaded in imagebin and nickname is mihir
[05:59] <Urda> P4 enav
[05:59] <Urda> Got a recovery kernel online now
[05:59] <ayi> shawnboy: those are errors?
[06:00] <Urda> just kidding it died
[06:00] <hmw> Devrethman: it has not been disabled. perhaps your GPU has crashed seriously.
[06:00] <lalla> how do i change the boot up? i've customised ubuntu using uck!
[06:00] <CogitoErgoSam> Blurpeace, I think I found a link that might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216523
[06:00] <Devrethman> hmw: huh, cause I can hear things from X, and when I try to open vitrual consoles, it turns black
[06:00] <shawnboy> ayi, yes when I try to play H264 video. The same video works in Movie Player.
[06:00] <Devrethman> and that's it.
[06:00] <enav> Urda it runs the installation process normally or jsut is dead after installation?
[06:00] <Devrethman> maybe my graphics card has crashed... it's been acting a little odd lately
[06:00] <Urda> enav: install goes great, then it reboots and nothing shows
[06:00] <demonspork> In Ubuntu 9.10, the longer I run Xorg, the more memory it uses. All the way to the point my system starts reaching Oom conditions and I just simply have to restart. How can I fix this?
[06:01] <Urda> enav: can't SSH, can't get into it, just a dead screen (monitor goes into powersaving) and on both Dell's
[06:01] <crunchbang> server irc.webchat.org
[06:01] <enav> Urda did you check disk integriti?
[06:01] <adamkex> demonspork: restart X?
[06:01] <ayi> shawnboy: are you using mplayer from command line or GUI like gmplayer?
[06:01] <hmw> Devrethman: you might be able to solve your current issue by using SSH from outside?
[06:01] <Devrethman> If I could get the IP address O_o
[06:01] <shawnboy> GUI from Apps/Sound-Video
[06:01] <inhale> hi, i only have a 256mb thumb drive and i want to put netbook remix 10 on to my netbook.   how can i use the 256mb thumb drive then pull the image off an ftp with the netbook on the network over a network cable?
[06:01] <Urda> enav: I did, and it said it was fine. I'm actually running it again. Memtests on both machines checked out fine too
[06:01] <Blurpeace> Cogito, I just hope that it recognizes the disc. I'll attempt this tomorrow.
[06:01] <lalla> how do i change the boot up? i've customised ubuntu using uck!
[06:01] <CogitoErgoSam> Blurpeace, I just found my win xp CD; I'm gonna double check the right process for makin an image
[06:02] <CogitoErgoSam> Blurpeace, if you wanna wait a few mins I'm tryin to make one now so I can give you a step-by-step
[06:02] <shawnboy> ayi, and I have ubuntu-restriced-extras installed, by the way.
[06:02] <enav> Urda  but my question is did you check the integrity of the CD before intall?
[06:02] <Urda> enav: I've installed lots of ubuntu servers, but never have I seen computers act like this towards it
[06:02] <Blurpeace> Really, it's fine, Cogito. Just point me out the program name and I can take it from there. ;)
[06:02] <demonspork> adamkex, that isn't fixing the problem, it only restarts the entire process. It takes about 48 hours of Xorg running to for it to fill my memory and cause this
[06:02] <Blurpeace> I'm not a total "newbie", anyway.
[06:02] <xorwhy> I installed the nvidia restricted driver, and half of the times I boot into Ubuntu it gives me the low graphics mode troubleshooter window. The other half it loads the driver just fine.
[06:02] <ayi> shawnboy: In you open the preferences/options in the mplayer gui, you can select video out device. Try "xv"
[06:02] <Urda> enav: matched checksum, and on the one box I checked it before hand.
[06:02] <ayi> If*
[06:02] <Urda> only burnt one disk tonight
[06:02] <inhale> ah nm
[06:03] <CogitoErgoSam> Blurpeace, sorry if it sounded trite; just wanted to grab your attention before ya logged off
[06:03] <xorwhy> I have tried installing the driver from Nvidia's website, the results were exactly the same.
[06:03]  * Blurpeace hugs Cogito.
[06:03] <enav> Urda very good... that is weird... i never had that problem before... i just got that problem with a beta version
[06:03] <Blurpeace> It's cool. :)
[06:03] <Blurpeace> Thanks for the help so far! I'm off for the night.
[06:03]  * Blurpeace waves.
[06:04] <ynk> how do i view the files that a package contains before i try to "apt-get insall" it?
[06:04] <CogitoErgoSam> blur
[06:04] <CogitoErgoSam> doh
[06:04] <Urda> enav: I might start fresh again tomorrow, and check all the hardware out again. But these boxes are barely used :\ not identical but close
[06:04] <lalla> how do i change the boot up during installation? i've customised ubuntu using uck!
[06:04] <CogitoErgoSam> was gonna ask for his email so I could drop him a line if I found a good solution
[06:04]  * emprameen pats himself on the back.
[06:04] <enav> Urda try to remove problematic hardware like RAID cards or extra video cards
[06:04] <Urda> enav: I've installed lots of 8.04 LTS copies, and was wishing to run 10.04 on these new boxes here at home. No RAID on these guys and the video is onboard
[06:05] <Urda> I yanked all extra PCI and other drives
[06:05] <lalla> how do i change the boot up during installation? i've customised ubuntu using uck!
[06:05] <adamkex> demonspork: well, if it is a memory leak try upgrading version, or upgrade to 10.4 and see if that solves the problem, or you could do the enviroment a favour and switch off your computer once in a while ;)
[06:05] <xorwhy> The error provided by the low graphics mode prompt is "failes to initialize the nvidia graphics device"
[06:05] <xorwhy> ^d
[06:05] <adamkex> demonspork: 10.04*
[06:05] <shawnboy> ayi, When I go to Video tab in Prefs, and highlight xv, I get error: "interrupted by signal 11 in module: unknown" then crash.
[06:05] <enav> Urda well maybe something was wrong on installation process because im running USE 10.04 so far so good
[06:05] <Urda> enav: maybe the disk it is on wasn't burnt right? but that wouldn't make sense if the integrity test was OK
[06:05] <enav> Urda let me chek something on google
[06:06] <ayi> shawnboy: that's very odd, try opengl
[06:06] <Urda> enav: that would be nice, but I've been googling and browsing super user all night :(
[06:06] <ARandomNub> :/
[06:06] <enav> Urda normally when disk are bad burned linux installation show some I/O errors  a lot of them
[06:06] <CogitoErgoSam> well...found the fix for Blur about 3 minutes after he logged
[06:06] <Urda> enav: I'm not getting that and I can't reach recovery kernel
[06:06] <ARandomNub> Well this is annoying >_>
[06:06] <enav> Urda but i recommend to bur important disk at 8X or lower  just to ensure a proper burn
[06:07] <Urda> enav: I'll try that again tomorrow I suppose
[06:07] <shawnboy> ayi, exact same result.
[06:07] <ARandomNub> Why can't I boot from DVD into Windows setup?  Constantly says "Bootmngr misssing", even though I can see it inside the DVD -.-
[06:07] <enav> Urda hang on let me chek something i saw at google
[06:07] <Urda> enav: sometimes if I boot the LIVE CD, enter the kernel there, and reboot it works for a brief moment
[06:08] <adamkex> demonspork: i am off, have a good day!
[06:08] <demonspork> later
[06:08] <enav> Urda btw is a PC really?
[06:08] <ayi> shawnboy: what if you pick x11?
[06:08] <Urda> enav: these are going to be re-purposed dell PC's
[06:09] <shawnboy> ayi, actually now it does that after a few seconds of being open, without changing anything. I didn't know it was this bad!
[06:11] <shawnboy> ayi, I tried a different format just for test--an avi. same erro about initializing video filters and video output.
[06:12] <ayi> shawnboy: try from command line, e.g: "mplayer -vo xv myvideofile.mpg"
[06:13] <shawnboy> ayi, it successfully played an OGV file using that method. Now I'll try H264
[06:14] <dragontech> hello i am very new to ubuntu and linux
[06:14] <dragontech> i am having problems getting my gf's laptop to work online
[06:14] <dragontech> it was working before
[06:15] <Urda> enav:  last thing I see is running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done. Then 9 times out of 10 nothing happens. But now I do have a recovery console up
[06:15] <dragontech> but now it won't recognize my wireless network
[06:15] <shawnboy> ayi, HEY. It works. That's something. But does that give you a clue what's going on when I start from GUI or how to fix?
[06:15] <Streetboys> !PING
[06:15] <enav> Urda i think the console and sheel is good... maybe is a bug related with graphics
[06:15] <dragontech> i tried to plug in the ethernet cable to see if that works but no luck
[06:15] <Urda> enav: :( darn
[06:16] <enav> Urda im reading this on launchepad logs
[06:16] <Streetboys> !ping
[06:16] <ayi> shawnboy: your mplayer GUI is segfaulting for some reason, i.e writing outside it's memory. You could try a different mplayer GUI
[06:16] <Urda> enav: well I was able to go through recovery kernel and now I have a login
[06:16] <dragontech> it received an ip address on the ethernet cable but i am still unable to view web pages
[06:16] <enav> Urda recovery kernell give you a crappy grapich performance really?
[06:16] <shawnboy> ayi, I thought that GUI was MPlayer. So the GUI is separate? MPlayer is CLI?
[06:17] <Urda> enav?
[06:17] <dragontech> her laptop is using ubuntu 9.10
[06:17] <dragontech> can anyone help
[06:17] <enav> Urda i mean recovery mode give you a low video performance like lag video or somthing like that?
[06:17] <Urda> enav: no
[06:17] <Urda> enav: normal console but it seldom boots into it right
[06:18] <Urda> enav: I usually get a blank screen and the system halts
[06:18] <enav> give your grapic card model
[06:18] <todkon> is there an actual command to allow the update manager systray icon popup within a systray external of Gnome? (ie. Docker within Openbox)
[06:18] <enav> sorry
[06:18] <Urda> enav: it's on board so IDK
[06:18] <aurilliance> When I updated to ubuntu 10.04 my touchscreen is no longer detected - touching the screen makes the cursor jump all over the place and System > Administration > calibrate touchscreen has disappeared. Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:18] <enav> Urda give me your graphic card model
[06:19] <enav> Urda give me your mother board model
[06:19] <crdlb> todkon: there is no icon by default anymore, but the notifier process is update-notifier
[06:19] <ayi> dragontech: are you able to ping your router?
[06:19] <Prez00> weird, whenever I used to build kernels for Ubuntu I would get initrd.img.. file created when I used, sudo make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image kernel_headers i tried now in 10.04 with latest kernel, not initrd.img and kernel panic when trying to boot 2.6.33.4 on Ubuntu 10.04
[06:19] <todkon> crdlb: if I put that within my autostart.sh, would it do anything useful for me?
[06:19] <Urda> enav: it is a DELL e210882
[06:19] <dragontech> yes
[06:19] <shawncm217> I'm starting to build a dedicated Linux box. Is Intel or AMD more friendly to the Linux community, either in compatibility or support of the community?
[06:20] <ayi> dragontech: are you able to ping an internet address like google.com?
[06:20] <Tidus> shawncm217, either or
[06:20] <Tidus> depends on your tastes and budget
[06:20] <crdlb> todkon: it will pop up the update-manager when there are updates, just like it does in gnome
[06:21] <Tidus> intel...amd... chances are its going to work
[06:21] <dragontech> no
[06:21] <todkon> crdlb: sweet, that's exactly what I wanted. Thanks a lot! :)
[06:21] <ayi> dragontech: are you able to ping 193.213.112.4 ?
[06:21] <adamkex> shawncm217: i prefer intel
[06:21] <Tidus> i'm more of an AMD person, due to budget restraints
[06:22] <dragontech> no i receive a host unreachable error
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[06:22] <enav> ye ye ye
[06:22] <aurilliance> When I updated to ubuntu 10.04 my touchscreen is no longer detected - touching the screen makes the cursor jump all over the place and System > Administration > calibrate touchscreen has disappeared. Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:22] <ayi> dragontech: but other machines on the LAN is able to ping internet addresses?
[06:22] <RProgrammer> I can ping it
[06:23] <dragontech> yes the computer i am on is on the same network
[06:23] <ceh421> crunchbang help here?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> !crunchbang | ceh421
[06:23] <JackStoner> ceh421: ask
[06:23] <ayi> dragontech: type "route -n" paste output on pastebin and post link
[06:24] <enav> Urda  dude give the the hardware specifications from a web site of your mainboard because i cant see where this is.... i hate those complicated websites to fin hardware related information
[06:24] <dragontech> how do i do that
[06:24] <Urda> enav: I'll see what I can digg up
[06:24] <enav> Urda good boy
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> Jackstoner: crunchbang isn't supported here :)
[06:25] <ayi> !title
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Howdy dcgstudios
[06:25] <ayi> dragontech: check the title
[06:25] <ceh421> i installed crunchbang on sdb1 (bootable and active) it seems as though it did not install a boot loader - sda1 (win7) boots fine if i tell bios to boot it, 2 questions, is there a way to boot to the installed crunchbang from the bootable cd, 2 can i install lilo from the bootable cd or do i need to boot to the installed crunchbang
[06:25] <dragontech> when i typed "route -n" i received a kernal routing table
[06:26] <CaptainTrek> ayi: try !topic next time
[06:26] <Urda> enav: I have no idea what board this DELL box has, I'll start my troubleshooting up in the morning again with a clea rmind
[06:26] <disappearedng_> hey if I do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<usbkey> and it still says device not found is it gone?
[06:26] <Urda> enav: thanks for the help though
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> Ceh421: crunchbang support is in #crunchbang ,not here
[06:26] <Flannel> ceh421: #crunchbang can help you
[06:26] <shawncm217> Thank you for your responses. I wasn't sure if either company had shown support or opposition to the Linux community. It sounds like they're about the same.
[06:26] <ceh421> ty
[06:26] <enav> Urda you need to find out that information to check incompatibility issues
[06:26] <enav> Urda bye bye
[06:27] <starnostar> can anyone here actually recommend preload, i got 8gb ram...never use any of it
[06:27] <ayi> dragontech: yes, it tells you where the packets go
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> Starnostar: sure, may as well put it to use
[06:27] <ayi> CaptainTrek: thanks for pointing that out
[06:28] <CaptainTrek> ayi: no problem
[06:28] <starnostar> does it work allright in lucid, are there any problems i should know about it before i install, do i have to start it manually?
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Starnostar: or you can not use preload and use more ram as disk cache
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Starnostar: nope just install it and it works
[06:28] <dragontech> ok i have destination 192.168.0.0 gateway 0.0.0.0 genmask 255.255.255.0 flags U metric 1 ref 0 use 0 iface eth0
[06:28] <dragontech> thats the first line
[06:28] <naveen519> FlexiStation application is crashing in Ubuntu...
[06:29] <emprameen> Hello
[06:29] <starnostar> cool, i think ill give it a shot, and im interested because its automagic, have to set up disk cashes
[06:29] <starnostar> dont want to set them up
[06:29] <slimjimflim> hi, i'm trying to use my webcam in flash w/ firefox. it works except every other frame blinks a frame of random pixels.  using flexcam 100 and using 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so firefox' to start firefox.  can anyone help?
[06:29] <alket> Hello emprameen
[06:29] <Rondo> hi I'm having trouble figuring out how to empty trash in inserted media. I delete .Trash-1000 but still the device is lacking the free space it should have
[06:29] <slimjimflim> 9.10
[06:29] <dragontech> destination 0.0.0.0 gateway 192.168.0.1 genmask 0.0.0.0 flags UG metric 0 ref 0 use 0 iface eth0
[06:29] <starnostar> or i "heard" it was automagic, like vnstat is supposed to be, it didnt add a cron tab to cron.d when i installed it
[06:29] <dragontech> is the second line
[06:30] <ayi> dragontech: it would be helpful to see all the lines, preferably on the pastebin
[06:30] <ayi> !topic
[06:30] <dragontech> how do i pastebin
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> Rondo: did you saftely eject the device properly or just rip it out?
[06:30] <enav> dragontech http://pastebin.com/
[06:30] <CogitoErgoSam> !pb | dragontech
[06:30] <Rondo> ActionParsnip: I have tried several methods ;P
[06:30] <starnostar> will preload make that much of a difference in my performace, im using regualr spinning disks (drooling over a 30gb ssd for os though)
[06:30] <dragontech> oh ok
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Rondo: if you safetly remove it syncs the partitions and the space will be released, as well as syncing the trash. I'd try an fsck
[06:31] <enav> dragontech that is to paste long text output and jsut give us the web link to chek it out
[06:31] <dragontech> do i paste the route -n from her laptop or mine
[06:31] <ayi> on the broken one
[06:31] <dragontech> ok thank you
[06:31] <ayi> actually, do both
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Starnostar: sure. Hdds are mega slow compared to ram
[06:32] <Rondo> ActionParsnip: had no problems in ubuntu 9.10 but now kubuntu 10.04 the "safely eject" option does not do this
[06:32] <enav> ActionParsnip about 100 times
[06:32] <starnostar> and one final question, once i get my ssd for os only, will i even need it anymore, or will it make it even more godly faster (or ssd = fast, ssd+preload = uber faster?)
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> Enav: unless you get one of those pci-x sd card readers ;)
[06:34] <starnostar> and if anything goes wrong with preload, i can just apt-get remove --purge it right? its not one of those services that are a giant pain to get rid of?
[06:34] <dragontech> http://paste.ubuntu.com/434721/
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> Rondo: i'd ask in #kubuntu too then. Not sure what kde does with stuff like that. Could try the eject command on the disk after unmounting the partition (will need sudo)
[06:35] <dragontech> thats hers
[06:35] <QuiltPants> Hi all, I've just set up my first ubuntu home server and tried to follow this tutorial: http://tuxtweaks.com/2009/07/how-to-configure-apache-linux/. I seem to be having some issues when trying to access any of the test sites from my dev machine. anyone know why?
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> Starnostar: indeed, its just a package and service
[06:35] <Tidus> so I like what they have done with the ubuntu netbook launcher
[06:35] <ayi> wouldn't it be both cheaper and faster to buy lots of RAM and put the OS and applications on a ramdisk?
[06:35] <lock> hello
[06:35] <Tidus> except one small thing
[06:36] <ayi> 30gb ssd sounds expensive
[06:36] <starnostar> kk, thank you actionparsnip, you have been incredibly helpful
[06:36] <enav> QuiltPants acces using hat SSH?
[06:36] <dragontech> this is my computers "route -n" http://paste.ubuntu.com/434722/
[06:36] <enav> QuiltPants acces using what SSH? **
[06:36] <Rondo> ActionParsnip: yes the kubuntu channel is generally pretty dead. fsck might be the key, reading man now \(@_@)/
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> Ayi: you can, puppy has an option for that ;) there's also a guide on how to do it in ubuntu too but its more involved
[06:36] <Tidus> on 9.10 i liked how external volumes (like external hdd, cdrom devices, etc...) were in their own column on the right side of the screen instead of under "Files and Folders"
[06:36] <ayi> dragontech: is that the broken one?
[06:37] <QuiltPants> enav: hi, do you mean accessing the site via ssh? or the server? I'm accessing the server via ssh
[06:37] <aurilliance> When I updated to ubuntu 10.04 my touchscreen is no longer detected - touching the screen makes the cursor jump all over the place and System > Administration > calibrate touchscreen has disappeared. Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:37] <enav> QuiltPants  very good what is the problem then?
[06:37] <dragontech> http://paste.ubuntu.com/434721/ is the broken one
[06:37] <QuiltPants> enav: but just trying to type http://site1/ into my browser
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> Starnostar: np man. Its fun to try stuff :)
[06:38] <enav> QuiltPants and?
[06:38] <enav> QuiltPants i mean what happens next?
[06:38] <QuiltPants> enav: well i've done everything on the server, but when typing in http://site1/ into the browser i get the error connection has timed out and the address changed to http://www.site1.com
[06:38] <QuiltPants> enav: sorry typing slowly here :)
[06:39] <QuiltPants> enav: i'm also a linux noob
[06:39] <enav> QuiltPants  dont worry
[06:39] <enav> QuiltPants i guess apache is ready, and no firewalls right ?
[06:39] <ayi> dragontech: See, the default gateway is different on the two..
[06:39] <starnostar> just googled it, appearently preload hasnt worked since like 9.10, this post was from 3 weeks ago
[06:39] <QuiltPants> enav: nope don't think so
[06:39] <starnostar> http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9106588
[06:40] <dragontech> yes i just realized that and went into the connection manager
[06:40] <enav> QuiltPants  lets go privatechat
[06:40] <QuiltPants> enav: cool
[06:40] <dragontech> i am resetting her ip address configuration
[06:40] <ayi> dragontech: good idea
[06:40] <dragontech> i am still trying to figure out why her wireless is not working
[06:40] <ayi> dragontech: use the same approach to diagnose it
[06:41] <dragontech> her system doesn't even show the ssid
[06:41] <[mike]> anyone out to help someone with open ati driver and kms settings?
[06:41] <dragontech> it doesn't connect to the router
[06:42] <dragontech> it shows the wireless is turned on
[06:42] <mneptok> QuiltPants: do you have a local DNS ebtry for "site1?"
[06:42] <mneptok> *entry
[06:43] <ayi> dragontech: what does "iwlist wlan0 scan" give you?
[06:43] <dragontech> it just says no scan results
[06:43] <ayi> dragontech: has wifi ever worked?
[06:44] <dragontech> yes
[06:44] <mneptok> dragontech: does the WAP broadcast the SSID? you can "see" the access point from other machines?
[06:44] <dragontech> yes
[06:45] <ilian> hello, I recently upgraded from 8.04 to 10.04
[06:45] <ilian> encountered a problem
[06:45] <ayi> dragontech: do you have an idea of what made i stop working? distro upgrade perhaps?
[06:45] <ayi> it*
[06:45] <ilian> flash could not install
[06:45] <ilian> this is the message that I get when I try to install/upgrade
[06:45] <dragontech> i have no clue but she doesn't update unless i am around
[06:46] <dragontech> and she called me at work to let me know she couldn't get online
[06:46] <mikelifeguard> Is an ubuntu desktop supposed to have sshd installed and running?
[06:46] <dragontech> is there a way to reset the wifi adapter
[06:46] <bobbyyu> Hey guys, anyone here still using Ubuntu 9.10?
[06:47] <emprameen> does anyone mind helping me figure out how to access usb connected arduino?
[06:47] <ilian> It says I have broken package and needs to be fixed
[06:48] <ayi> dragontech: you could reload the driver.. or reboot? :p
[06:48] <ilian> also that flashplugin-nonfree is in very bad state and needs to be reinstalled
[06:48] <dragontech> i have rebooted 4 times no luck
[06:48] <ayi> dragontech: what does "iwconfig" output?
[06:49] <ilian> Can anyone help with a problem with flash.  It occured when I upgraded from 8.04 to 10.04?
[06:50] <ayi> ilian: what occurred?
[06:50] <ilian> Everything was good except for flashplugin
[06:51] <ilian> it says there's a broken package and that it needs to be fixed.  Also, flashplugin-nonfree is in very bad state and needs to be reinstalled.
[06:51] <ayi> ilian: reinstall it then
[06:52] <ilian> I'm not an experienced user and don't know how to do this other than with the package manager.  It doesn't work!
[06:52] <mikelifeguard> ilian: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[06:53] <ayi> where packagename is flashplugin-nonfree
[06:53] <CogitoErgoSam> ilian:  You can also manage packages from Synaptic if you're not comfortable with the command line.
[06:54] <MeXTuX> I'm trying to configure the ethernet card with a static IP address. I edited the /etc/network/interfaces file and when I rebooted Ubuntu got the IP address from my 2WIRE router. For some reason it is not using /etc/network/interfaces settings : ( . I'm using Lucid Lynx
[06:54] <willvarfar> a clean install on a laptop (previously used ubuntu on same laptop without any problems); every time the machine starts, it defaults to a us keyboard, I have to go add my native mapping using a keyboard layout button in the tray in the top-right; how do I get it to realise I don't have a US keyboard?
[06:55] <SwedeMike> MeXTuX: set the static address in network manager instead, if you edit the files you need to disable network manager.
[06:55] <dragontech> http://paste.ubuntu.com/434729/
[06:55] <dragontech> thats the iwconfig on the broken laptop
[06:56] <ilian> it does not work...I get the same error as always
[06:57] <ayi> dragontech: silly question: is wireless enabled when right clicking network manager applet icon?
[06:57] <dragontech> yes
[06:57] <[Screamo]> Anyone having problems with 10.4 Randomly logging you off?
[06:58] <ilian> What is the "Broken" filter
[06:58] <ilian> how do I locate broken packages
[06:59] <ilian> ?
[06:59] <ilian> Installing, reinstalling, nothing works, very frustrating
[06:59] <ayi> ilian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[07:00] <ayi> there's a section on broken packages
[07:00] <enav> ilian calm down buddy
[07:00] <ilian> I try to calm but it's frustrating when you're new to something
[07:01] <jumbers> I'm having an odd problem with my server. I'm getting overheating warnings printed to my console, but the CPU is at a reasonable temperature
[07:01] <jumbers> http://pb.jnumbers.com/4
[07:01] <[Screamo]> Anyone else? having problems with 10.4 Randomly logging you off?
[07:02] <jumbers> The other odd thing is that it says it's overheated and then says the temperature is normal within the same second. Also, it prints this exactly every 5 minutes
[07:02] <SwedeMike> [Screamo]: you're sure that it's not something crashing? and it's 10.04, not 10.4
[07:02] <dragontech> the broken laptop is using the broadcom B43 wireless driver
[07:03] <[Screamo]> SwedeMike, its happened like 5 times in the past hour, everytime i was using a different app
[07:05] <ilian> I have an error that I can't fix.
[07:05] <SwedeMike> [Screamo]: so it could be the X server or window manager crashing, you have no idea?
[07:05] <ilian> Any way that I try to install flash gives me the same error.
[07:06] <[Screamo]> not really SwedeMike
[07:06] <[Screamo]> well
[07:06] <[Screamo]> its like if i had just hit the log out button
[07:06] <ilian> Even the package manager has a do not enter sign on the task bar with an error message
[07:06] <[Screamo]> i can log right back in, tho everything i had open gets closed
[07:07] <bullgard> What does »mmc« stand for in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32/drivers/mmc/? Meet-Me_Conference, Microchannel_to_Mainframe_Connection, Microsoft_Management_Console, Mobile_to_Mobile_Call, MultiMedia_Card, Multimedia_Collaboration, multimedia_command_set, Multimedia_Memory_Card?
[07:07] <kyubutsu> [Screamo]: update your system
[07:07] <[Screamo]> ehhh
[07:08] <ilian> Preconfiguring packages ...
[07:08] <ilian> dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--remove):
[07:08] <ilian>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[07:08] <ilian>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[07:08] <ilian> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:08] <FloodBot2> ilian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:08] <ilian>  flashplugin-nonfree
[07:08] <ilian> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:08] <dragontech> any ideas on how to fix the wireless?
[07:08] <dragontech> tried rebooting
[07:08] <SwedeMike> [Screamo]: did you do any checking in dmesg or X-server logs or something?
[07:09] <dragontech> and tried removing and reloading the drivers
[07:09] <kyubutsu> SwedeMike: i think it's an xserver bug
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[07:10] <slimjimflim> hi, i'm trying to use my webcam in flash w/ firefox. it works except every other frame blinks a frame of random pixels.  using flexcam 100 and using 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so firefox' to start firefox.  can anyone help?
[07:11] <shai> Hi :) I'm using Ubuntu on as a VirtualBox guest, and for some reason, some tabs on my GNOME Terminal don't have the cursor flashing (can't see it at all), so it is very hard to know where I am on the command line. Tried to use 'reset' and 'clear' and those don't work. What else can I try?
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Slimjimfilm: is there a newer driver for it online?
[07:11] <slimjimflim> ActionParsnip: idk
[07:11] <slimjimflim> it's kind of a no name brand
[07:11] <ilian> Can someone check http://paste.ubuntu.com/434732/ and help me out...that is the error I get in terminal or anywhere else when I try to install flashplugin...I haven't been able to use flash since my upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Slimjimfilm: lsusb ,will tell you what it is exactly
[07:12] <ahmed> hi
[07:12] <slimjimflim> ActionParsnip: Bus 002 Device 008: ID 04fc:0561 Sunplus Technology Co., Ltd Flexcam 100
[07:13] <slimjimflim> also known as flexicam i think
[07:13] <[Screamo]> SwedeMike, i get this right before it logs me out: [ 1813.181053] nautilus[1824]: segfault at 38 ip 00ba0d5a sp bff80900 error 4 in libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.0[b22000+3cd000]
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Ilian: tried reinstalling the package? Or force installing the deb? You may have to edit some files in /etc/apt to make ubuntu forget its installed so you can reinstall it
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Slimjimfilm: ok use the hex id to find guides and/or bugs
[07:14] <SwedeMike> [Screamo]: segfault is an indication of a bug or memory error. if you get this in different applications it's most likely a hardware problem.
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Slimjimfilm: tried a different browser?
[07:14] <Msk> Hi
[07:15] <[Screamo]> well actually i get this right before ragnarok-desktop kernel: [ 2108.133961] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: nouveau_channel_free: freeing fifo 1
[07:15] <Msk> please any one please help me to configure yahoo server in empathy and pidgin ..
[07:15] <[Screamo]> then it kills my pppd the same second then logs me off
[07:15] <slimjimflim> ActionParsnip: yea i tried opera.  it works fine with cheese, but and if i do the LD_PRELOAD business, it works in camorama too
[07:16] <slimjimflim> so i know the camera is running
[07:16] <slimjimflim> seems like a problem with flash compatibility
[07:16] <slimjimflim> also works in vlc
[07:16] <cocoa117> how can i use tar --exclude="$RECYCLE.BIN"?
 i tried above, but didn't work
[07:17] <dragontech> would upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04 possibly fix the wireless issue?
[07:17] <SwedeMike> [Screamo]: I wouldn't use the term "logging off", it indicates intention, this is rather a program crash.
[07:17] <gnuskool> iwe
[07:18] <Msk> please any one please help me to configure yahoo server in empathy and pidgin .. i am using ubuntu 10.04
[07:18] <kyubutsu> sounds like nautilus is crashing the xserver
[07:18] <SwedeMike> [Screamo]: and if I were you I'd dial back the performance settings in my BIOS to see if that helped, could be a cpu/memory problem.
[07:18] <[Screamo]> lol
[07:18] <[Screamo]> i cant get into the bios
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Slimjimfilm: i'd see if there are any bugs logged. Maybe its firefox being bad with ram causing the flicker
[07:18] <gnuskool> zambezi vulture
[07:18] <[Screamo]> this is a custom built comp
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Slimjimfilm: if you use a 64bit OS you could try 64bit flash, may help
[07:19] <slimjimflim> 32bit
[07:19] <slimjimflim> ActionParsnip: what did you mean by hex id?
[07:19] <[Screamo]> before i put ubuntu on it had a intel splash screen, now it just boots right into ubuntu, cant get into ios at all
[07:20] <slimjimflim> [Screamo]: did you try del and F1-F12?
[07:20] <kyubutsu> [Screamo]: do  ubuntu-bug nautilus  and see if you can file a bug report on launchpad
[07:20] <[Screamo]> slimjimflim yea i tried everything for about 25 reboots
[07:21] <dragontech> brb
[07:21] <slimjimflim> [Screamo]: you might want to check the docs for your motherboard
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Slimjimfilm: read the output, it says ID: e3ad:45aa ,or somesuch. That identifys the chip uniuely and can be used in websearches
[07:21] <slimjimflim> make sure you're hitting the right key
[07:21] <[Screamo]> ive only had it for about 2 hours, it was made by a local computer store, judging by the p4 im guessing its at least 5 years old =/
[07:21] <slimjimflim> ActionParsnip: ok
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> Slimjimfilm: yours will be different. I just puched a random hex value as an example
[07:22] <slimjimflim> [Screamo]: look up the model number of the motherboard to find out the cmos/bios key
[07:22] <slimjimflim> or brute force it
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> [Screamo]: P4 is a nice chip range
[07:22] <[Screamo]> meh
[07:22] <kyubutsu> well.. thats not too ubuntu specific now
[07:23] <gnuskool> zambezi vulture
[07:23] <[Screamo]> well a 1.7ghz single core is sorta outdated =/
[07:23] <CogitoErgoSam> [Screamo], my 1.6 centrino laptop seems to handle lynx ok :)
[07:24] <freeunix> ding ni ge fei!!
[07:24] <shazbotmcnasty> [Screamo], this computer is brand new and it's 1.6 centrino
[07:24] <shazbotmcnasty> and it's a desktop :<<<
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> [Screamo]: outdated means nothing. If it does its task at a reasonable speed and is faultless then its fine
[07:24] <freeunix> exit
[07:24] <[Screamo]> shazbotmcnasty how many cores?
[07:24] <[Screamo]> =/
[07:24] <shazbotmcnasty> [Screamo], centrino
[07:24] <shazbotmcnasty> one
[07:24] <[Screamo]> =/
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> [Screamo]: if all its for is web browsing then its more than enough, isn't it?
[07:24] <KittyBoots> Hello all!  Please don't haze me as I am not a total noob, but not an expert either.  I have difficulty wording my questions in a way that is not offensive to technical experts.  I don't want to waste your time with unclear questions, just please try and resist being a jerk to me.
[07:25] <wildbat> is there is any good C interpreter in the repos?
[07:25] <[Screamo]> well really this is just to serve music+video and interwebz to my other comps/xboxs
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> [Screamo]: therefore outdated is nonesense. Its up to the job it needs to do.
[07:25] <Monona> How well is real-time kernel working in 10.04?  I'm doing audio production, and still using Hardy cuz I heard real-time kernel wasn't working.
[07:25] <kyubutsu> you could just ask KittyBoots
[07:25] <Flannel> KittyBoots: you won't need to worry about that here.  Just ask your question :)
[07:25] <[Screamo]> now all i have to do is remeber how to automount these hdds at boot
[07:25] <[Screamo]> =/
[07:26] <Flannel> wildbat: gcc is the 'standard' C compiler
[07:26] <CogitoErgoSam> [Screamo], what file system
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Wildbat: install build-essential ,you now have a c and c++ compiler
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | [screamo]
[07:26] <wildbat> Flannel, ActionParsnip no i wana a interpreter not compiler ;p
[07:26] <_mike_> Hello, can someone have a quick look at my graphics setup and see if this looks right?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/434737/
[07:26] <[Screamo]> ext4
[07:26] <intok> 9.10, can't get external ntfs volume mounted via usb or 1394
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> Monona: try it. You can always choose the regular kernel and uninstall the real-time one if its bad
[07:27] <[Screamo]> why cant someone write a ntfs-config tool for ext* =/
[07:28] <CogitoErgoSam> intok here's a line from one of my ntfs lines in fstab if you wanna try to emulate it
[07:28] <CogitoErgoSam> /dev/sda2 /media/vista ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[07:28] <KittyBoots> I am trying to view HD video files that my camecorder is recording, I want to edit them as well.  I either do not have the proper codec to view them, or my lappy just doesn't have enough processing cycles to do what I want to do.  I have been googling and looking on forums (I have not posted anything) but I have not been able to pinpoint any specific information that will get me on the right path.  I am here for advice on what I should do?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> [Screamo]: you can mount them using /etc/fstab .its a well documented file
[07:28] <Monona> ActionParsnip:  Real-time kernel works fine under 8.04.  I could upgrade then downgrade if it's not working, I suppose.  I just don't want to fix what isn't broken.
[07:29] <[Screamo]> ActionParsnip, lol yes i know, this would the 5th time i think of having to do this for 3-4 hdds at once, and all this year =/
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Intok: there are ntfs config tools in the repos
[07:29] <[Screamo]> im just to damn lazy/cant concentrate
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> [Screamo]: then have a backed up fstab file you can copy bits out of then, makes sense
[07:30] <CogitoErgoSam> KittyBoots:  There are a lot of options out there...I'm not a media type necessarily, but a large amount of codecs can be found bundled in the repositories.  A question, though: is your laptop the only computer, or do you have a faster desktop?
[07:30] <[Screamo]> ActionParsnip, how about ill give you the UUID's of them they are all ext4 and you output them for me =/
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> [Screamo]: because I'm on a G1 phone so it'd take me forever. Can you please cease punctuating with =/ ,its really redundant
[07:31] <KittyBoots> CogitoErgoSam, my lappy is all I've got.
[07:31] <[Screamo]> oh muffins..
[07:32] <dragontech> back
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> [Screano] if its ext4 then just copy a line which is currenly in the file and change the uud and mount point, should be ok
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> *uuid
[07:33] <ceon1> ciao
[07:33] <Monona> KittyBoots: Have you installed the restricted video codecs?  The howto is here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:33] <KittyBoots> CogitoErgoSam, I have just recently upgraded to Lucid.  When I was on 9.10 I remember trying towatch some HD video and I found a codec that emabled me to, but I have not been able to find it this time around.
[07:33] <Pr0ject-Rec0n> have a question : I want my gnome terminal in ubuntu
[07:34] <Pr0ject-Rec0n> to use keybindings of a unix box
[07:34] <CogitoErgoSam> KittyBoots, check out the link Monona posted; that package incorporates a whole bunch of different codecs
[07:34] <Pr0ject-Rec0n> like just a right-click for copy and left click to paste
[07:34] <KittyBoots> Monona, I have but I think I need another one specific to the format I am trying to view that is not included.  The format is *.mts which is AVCHD.
[07:34] <Pr0ject-Rec0n> Do I use gconf-editor to change key mappings for gnome-terminal?
[07:35] <dragontech> anyone have any ideas on fixing wireless problems
[07:36] <KittyBoots> CogitoErgoSam, Monona; I already have them installed.
[07:37] <Pr0ject-Rec0n> any answers ?
[07:38] <Hidden> !register > ThinkCigar
[07:38] <Monona> KittyBoots:  Do you have "libavcodec" specifically?
[07:39] <KittyBoots> CogitoErgoSam, Monona; I have been using FFMPEG to convert from *.mts to *.avi, but it is a grossly long process, and if I can find a way to just work with *.mts that would be great.  Some of my friends have been telling me to give up and go to Windows or Mac, but I cant bring myself to giving up on Linus.
[07:39] <neurohack222> hey all, am real new to ubuntu, just installed it the other day and set up an ampache server today... would like to do other things like webhosting and email server, was wondering if anyone could recommend any good sites to learn about how to do these things
[07:39] <ayi> KittyBoots: handbrake is awesome
[07:39] <KittyBoots> CogitoErgoSam, Monona; Let me check.
[07:39] <CogitoErgoSam> KittyBoots, right now I'm checkin "apt-cache search codec" to see if any of em match what you need
[07:39] <CogitoErgoSam> you can run it too though
[07:40] <KittyBoots> CogitoErgoSam, What is that?
[07:41] <CogitoErgoSam> KittyBoots, a list of packages in the repository, as of the last time your system checked.
[07:41] <Flannel> neurohack222: https://help.ubuntu.com/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/community, specifically for webserver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  and the help page (first link) has a "server guide" section, that talks about a lot of server stuff (including email)
[07:41] <j800r> hey guys, i have an issue regarding messengers. I substituded Empathy for Pidgin cause Empathy was too buggy, however, whenever i use the indicator applet to change my status it disables my accounts in pidgin saying i signed in from another location. :|
[07:41] <CogitoErgoSam> KittyBoots:  Try running this: "apt-cache search codec | grep video" and see if any of em look like what you need
[07:41] <tony__> Yeah everything worked out!
[07:41] <j800r> anyone know how to fix that problem :\
[07:42] <CogitoErgoSam> KittyBoots, specifically "libdv4" looks like it might be helpful
[07:42] <tony__> hmw: If you're there I'm now I'm working with xpadder to set up my Wired Mad Catz controller. I followed all instructions but I can't get the buttons to type letters in gedit.
[07:42] <BunnyFF> Hello all, I currently have a RAID 5 setup using IDE SATA, can I change my BIOS setting to AHCI without loosing my data?
[07:43] <j800r> no one? :|
[07:43] <tony__> I have set up the buttons, given them assignments, and saved all profiles and key sets.
[07:43] <KittyBoots> Monona; I did not have it installed and I am installing it now.
[07:43] <tony__> Mm, I'll start over.
[07:43] <Monona> KittyBoots:  Also, what program are you using?  I don't know so much video editing, but I hear Blender is good.
[07:45] <uczen>  hahaha
[07:45] <uczen>  ale dupa
[07:45] <uczen> nie chuja
[07:45] <uczen>  nie ad siew
[07:45] <uczen> isjadf
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[07:45] <uczen> dojf
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[07:46] <scheng> hi, anybody ever install some FX docuCentre c3000 printer driver on ubuntu?
[07:47] <dragontech> does anyone know how to get a kodak esp7 to work with ubuntu
[07:47] <`blackmk4`linux> does anyone know how to view an x11 ssh connection on osx
[07:48] <clarnist> hello guys
[07:48] <clarnist> I have a trouble in qtcreator in ubuntu 10.04
[07:48] <scheng> FX -> Fuji Xerox
[07:48] <clarnist> when I launch it its start a big while
[07:49] <clarnist> how can i speed this app?
[07:49] <KittyBoots> Monona, I am using VLC for viewing, I am trying Cinelerra, Open Shot Video Editor, and Kdenlive for editing, I have not tryed Blender ( I thought it was just for CG?), I am using FFMPEG for video conversion, and WinFF which is a GUI for FFMPEG but I don't know how to customize presets so that the terminal command I use can be one of the options in the GUI (are you able to  teach me how to make it a preset?).
[07:50]  * MACscr_lappy starts day 3 of trying to get 3 monitors to work on my ubuntu system =/
[07:50] <tonyb_> Nope. Didn't work.
[07:50] <coz_> KittyBoots,  if the presets require commands  take a look at this text file I put together for ffmpeg    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/FFMPEG
[07:51] <tonyb_> May I have some more help with my Xbox controller, please?
[07:52] <Fireking300> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=118
[07:52] <Fireking300> Is there going to be a 10.04 release of that soon?
[07:52] <j800r> does no one know how to fix this issue with pidgin? :| empathy is just way too buggy to use, even though it's better intergrated :\
[07:52] <KittyBoots> CogitoErgoSam, Monona; libavcodec & libdv4 are both already installed .
[07:53] <Flannel> Fireking300: I imagine there would be.
[07:53] <dragontech> does anyone know how to get a kodak esp7 to work with ubuntu
[07:53] <Fireking300> Alright I hope so.
[07:54] <Fireking300> Has multiseat become deprecated?
[07:54] <Flannel> Fireking300: No
[07:54] <Fireking300> oh alright good. :)
[07:54] <ChangeOfHeart> Hello :)
[07:54] <tonyb_> Hi!
[07:54] <KittyBoots> coz_; Thank's!
[07:55] <ChangeOfHeart> Does anyone know how to access your ubuntu files while in windows? i can access my windows from ubuntu but i have not found the filepath for ubuntu within windows !
[07:55] <coz_> dragontech,   not sure actually  but take a look here   http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting
[07:55] <coz_> KittyBoots,  was that something you wanted  those commands ??
[07:55] <tonyb_> There are known Linux mounters, but my attempts to get them to work were unsuccessful.
[07:56] <tonyb_> (Linux mounters as in programs in Windows mounting Linux filesystems)
[07:56] <dragontech> also i am having problems with my gf's computer it won't recognize my wireless router but my laptop works fine
[07:56] <ChangeOfHeart> :S
[07:56] <coz_> tonyb_,  I also have found none that work as described  on windows
[07:56] <intok> CogitoErgoSam http://pastebin.com/m23TKzpy
[07:56] <dragontech> her system is using ubuntu 9.10 with the broadcom b43 drivers
[07:57] <MACscr_lappy> is anyone in here succesfully running 3 monitors with ati video cards?
[07:57] <ChangeOfHeart> 3 D:
[07:57] <tonyb_> I guess I just use Ubuntu to move files back and forth. It's tedious. Maybe someone else can develop something that helps with doing this.
[07:57] <coz_> MACscr_lappy,  not me :)
[07:57] <Jordan_U> ChangeOfHeart: I don't think that windows supports ext4 (Ubuntu's default filesystem).
[07:57] <ChangeOfHeart> Thanks Jordan_U :)
[07:58] <tonyb_> Can anyone help me with my Xpadder (Xbox 360 controller) issue?
[07:58] <scheng> hi, i'm installed the printer driver ,but i couldn't get colored page print. somebody know why?
[07:59] <[Screamo]> hmmm
[07:59] <[Screamo]> how do i add things to the boot menu in 10.04?
[07:59] <tonyb_> Boot menu?
[07:59] <quiescens> grub
[07:59] <tonyb_> As in Startup applications?
[07:59] <tonyb_> Oh.
[08:00] <tonyb_> What kind of things?
[08:00] <KittyBoots> coz_; It helps, but I am trying to use WinFF, which is a GUI frontend for FFMPEG, and I want to add the following preset: ffmpeg -i input.mts -vcodec libxvid -b 18000k -acodec libmp3lame -ac 2 -ab 320k -deinterlace -s 1440x1080 output.avi  I am trying to make it generic by replacing the input and out put file with wild cards so that the GUI will do this action to anyfile I put into it.
[08:00] <[Screamo]> yeah wasnt sure if it still used grub, in 9.10 it always flashed grub loading, doesnt do that now
[08:00] <[Screamo]> like i have 2 9.10 installed on 2 other hard dirves
[08:00] <[Screamo]> drives
[08:01] <[Screamo]> would like the option to boot into them if this istall messes up or something
[08:01] <quiescens> screamo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#User-defined%20Entries
[08:01] <coz_> KittyBoots,  mm I will have to study this a bit... I have not put presets into winff before
[08:01] <quiescens> oh, and you have to either hold shift while its booting to show the menu
[08:01] <tonyb_> It doesn't show boot options for filesystems on other hard drives?
[08:01] <Fireking300> This is one and only reason a person needs to switch to ubuntu. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3d1T-FvMtY
[08:01] <quiescens> or change /etc/default/grub
[08:01] <KittyBoots> coz_; I don't really know how to do that.  I was told to go learn how to script, but I have gotten nowhere with that.
[08:01] <quiescens> and make it so that it doesn't hide the timeout
[08:02] <coz_> KittyBoots,  I see in winff under "Edit"  is the Presets option
[08:02] <coz_> KittyBoots,   it looks as though the  commands would be put there  along with other info   exluding some parts of the commands like -i etc
[08:02] <KittyBoots> coz_; Yeah, but I don't know how to manipulate the command so that it is compatible with WinFF.
[08:03] <ftab> My Gnome Network Manager icon won't show in Sys tray how do I get that display?
[08:03] <[Screamo]> quiescens i cant concentrate worth a crap right now, care to help me?
[08:03] <CogitoErgoSam> Fireking300, did you hear something?  THat sound?  That was my jaw dropping
[08:03] <ftab> I tried to run nm-applet, but it says it's already running
[08:03] <quiescens> [screamo]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Where%20did%20my%20Grub2%20boot%20menu%20go!?!?!
[08:03] <Fireking300> :P Awesome aint it?
[08:03] <coz_> KittyBoots,  well it seems for example if I wanted to set     ffmpeg -i something.ogg   something.avi   the coomand would seem to be for that preset     ffmpeg something.ogg
[08:03] <dragontech> will upgrading to 10.04 help the wifi problem i am having?
[08:03] <ftab> so I am using /etc/network/interfaces to make my networking work any idea please?
[08:04] <tyler_d4> I am in the process of rebuilding a fakeraid via the bios util, how can I watch this process.... the command dmraid -ay gives me errors in opening(due to the rebuild process?)
[08:04] <coz_> KittyBoots,  then the output file   would be  .avi  category would be  video etc etc
[08:04] <KittyBoots> coz_; It would only work with the file named something.ogg.'
[08:05] <coz_> KittyBoots,   no that was just an example     probably   ffmpeg  *.ogg
[08:05] <coz_> KittyBoots,  not sure exactly... I have not played around with this before
[08:05] <KittyBoots> coz_; I want it to take anyfile that I throw at it and convert it into the same name just different file type.
[08:05] <coz_> KittyBoots,  hold on let me check something
[08:05] <hiwifi> when you install a package that runs as a daemon in ubuntu does it enable it by default?
[08:05] <KittyBoots> coz_; Sure, you have been great help so far, thanks a lot.
[08:06] <[Screamo]> yay! sudo update-grub found and auto added both the other installs :D
[08:06] <[Screamo]> Thank you quiescens
[08:06] <ftab> My Gnome Network Manager icon won't show in Sys tray how do I get that display?
[08:06] <KittyBoots> Whenever I come on here I usually only have a question.  I never really converse much, is this the place for that?
[08:07] <dnivra> Hello. I know this is the wrong channel to ask this. but can someone tell me how to play tracks randomly in amarok 2.3.0? there used to be an option in the menus in 2.2.2 but it's not there in 2.3.0. I asked in #amarok; no use.
[08:07] <hiwifi> ftab: try to remove the notification area and add it back
[08:07] <ftab> hiwifi, nopes that won't take it back
[08:08] <coz_> KittyBoots,  ok here is  a google link  http://code.google.com/p/winff/wiki/HowToMakePresets  amybe that will help  and no this is not the channel for anything but support bu you could go to #ubuntu-offttopc for chatting :)
[08:08] <ftab> hiwifi, now even my xchat icon disappeared
[08:08] <coz_> KittyBoots,  rather  #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:08] <abuayyoub> hi, I have a small problem. For some reason when using VLC on my lucid X64 install i can't click dvd menu items. I had the same problem with flash. I fixed the non-responsive clicks in flash but can't figure what the problem is with VLC
[08:10] <KittyBoots> coz_; Hey, this is awesome!  Thanks for not being a jerk to me for not being able to find this on my own!
[08:11] <coz_> KittyBoots,   well that should give you a start anyway
[08:11] <abuayyoub> anyone else had that problem? not being able to select menu items in VLC?
[08:11] <abuayyoub> when playing a dve
[08:11] <coz_> abuayyoub,  sorry guy I never use VLC
[08:12] <abuayyoub> coz_ what do you use?
[08:12] <coz_> abuayyoub,  I  only use mplayer for video here
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[08:13] <jpds> Flannel: Indeed.
[08:13] <Soul_Sample> first time in months somebody actually talks to me, and it's a pedo bot
[08:13] <pallgone> abuayyoub: I dimmly recall some issue like that... I'm not sure but I think it was something with encryption, do you have the dvdcss library on your system?
[08:13] <intok> anontalk... the pissers in the ocean of piss
[08:13] <tsimpson> please just ignore the spam
[08:13] <tobago> bloody motherfucker....
[08:13] <Flannel> tobago: That's unnecessary
[08:13] <tobago> Flannel, i kno. ;)
[08:14] <Andorin> If the spam bothers you, just /clear
[08:14] <Flannel> tobago: So, refrain.
[08:14] <hiwifi> yea, my virgin ears are bleeding
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[08:14] <FloodBot2> fruinuima: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:14] <coz_> also ignore the "inappropriate language"
[08:14] <FXS> Because everyone wants to join a bbs of pedophiles. hurrrrrr
[08:14] <FXS> Kimmo is a fucktard
[08:14] <Andorin> Fail.
[08:14] <tobago> mmmh. who gonna stop this?
[08:14] <intok> Andorin or unleash the phone spiders upon them
[08:14] <pat5star> Soul_Sample: LOL, I got all excited too. I was doing something else when a msg popped up (because my name was entered) and thought Wow...someone needs me! *sniff* ;)
[08:14] <jasonjang> Hm.....little...
[08:14] <FXS> lulz
[08:15] <Flannel> FXS: No.  Stop now.
[08:15] <Soul_Sample> pat5star: yup, totally :D
[08:15] <BlackBinary> -.- IRC spam?
[08:15] <Andorin> For me it was "Gotta be spam, nobody legitimately and randomly beeps me in #ubuntu"
[08:15] <intok> BlackBinary they also spamed 4chan, if that's even possible
[08:16] <FXS> That would be kimmo alm
[08:16] <tobago> so everyone can calm and get back into agony...
[08:16] <[Screamo]> =/
[08:16] <FXS> He's some pedo who believes people will join his board if he spams it everywhere
[08:17] <Andorin> FXS: I'd amend that to "He's a troll"
[08:18] <boritek> hello. I installed aTunes on Ubuntu. But the tabs on the left side looks like this: http://imgur.com/HRwyz
[08:18] <tsimpson> please just ignore it
[08:18] <boritek> why is it?
[08:18] <coz_> what?  no more ubuntu issues ??
[08:18] <boritek> on windows it looks correct
[08:18] <Soul_Sample> maybe it's due to language or font
[08:19] <boritek> Soul_Sample: tx, i will try to change and see
[08:19] <boritek> on English its the same
[08:20] <MACscr_lappy> am i getting this right, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver, the ati radeon HD 3000 and 4000 series cards only have 2d support? thats seems completely retarded
[08:20] <boritek> i cant see option for changing fonts
[08:20] <boritek> in aTunes
[08:20] <Soul_Sample> boritek: i'm not familiar with that player at all, can the panels be resized or something?
[08:21] <Soul_Sample> boritek: i meant the system font
[08:21] <boritek> Soul_Sample: yeah, but it doesnt help :S
[08:21] <Soul_Sample> boritek: but it's probably not that either
[08:21] <boritek> it always looked this way on ubuntu on my machine, on earlier ubuntu versions too
[08:22] <boritek> now, its a fresh ubuntu lucid lynx
[08:22] <Flannel> boritek: That sounds like you've found a bug
[08:22] <dragontech> can anyone help with a broadcom b43 wireless problem
[08:22] <Soul_Sample> boritek: just a sec, i'll install it now
[08:22] <Multi> Hey, anyone in here that got some skills in LikeWise open?
[08:22] <boritek> Soul_Sample: ok, tx
[08:22] <boritek> its quite good player though
[08:23] <MightyTweek> Multi, I've played with it a little, not for a while though
[08:23] <boritek> i have seen other bloggers making screenshot under ubuntu, there the tabs looked right
[08:23] <Soul_Sample> boritek: yup, looks the same here
[08:23] <boritek> hmm
[08:24] <boritek> what i have thought yet:
[08:24] <Soul_Sample> boritek: i'll play with it a bit and see
[08:24] <boritek> could it be the cause of a different java engine?
[08:24] <tripelb> I want to use gparted. I cant find it. ((For instance, on Ubuntu, you will find GParted under System > Administration > Partition Editor.))
[08:24] <boritek> i mean there are two kind of, sun's official and an earlier open source one
[08:25] <Soul_Sample> boritek: i changed the look and feel to "System" in preferences, and now tabs are horizontal, but they look normal
[08:25] <SmokeyD> Hey everyone. I am running into a problem upgrading karmic to lucid. After reading all the package lists and stuff, I get the message that ubuntu-desktop is marked for removal but that it (fortunately) is on a removal blacklist. How can I see which package causes the problem that the upgrade wants to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[08:25] <gottto> tripelb: that's on the live cd - it doesn't get installed
[08:25] <boritek> Soul_Sample: where did u change it?
[08:25] <boritek> or what did u change?
[08:26] <Soul_Sample> boritek: Edit>Preferences>General>Look and feel... it has 3 options, i chose System
[08:26] <tripelb> gottto, I have 2 physical drives on my machine and I want to use gparted on the slave drive. should I install gparted?
[08:26] <boritek> ah yeah, thats better
[08:26] <gottto> tripelb: to use it yes you'll need to
[08:27] <dragontech> would the drivers for mac os 10 be compatible with ubuntu linux?
[08:27] <tripelb> gottto, like this:  sudo apt-get install gparted
[08:27] <adamkex> no
[08:27] <Soul_Sample> boritek: i don't know how else to fix it... and btw it killed pulseaudio lol
[08:28] <gottto> tripelb: that's how it's done
[08:28] <tripelb> has anyone else had flash fail while using chrome?
[08:28] <SmokeyD> ah wait, I found it: in /var/log/dist-upgrade/<date>/apt.log is a log of which packages are installed, reinstalled and removed, and which dependencys cause it. With me it seemts to be a problem with libsdl-debian-alsa/pulseaudio
[08:29] <loopidity> when installing lamp, shouldnt the groups www-data and apache be creted by default? i do not see them though
[08:29] <dragontech> does anyone know why my gf's laptop doesn't see any wireless networks?
[08:29] <Flannel> loopidity: www-data (user) and www-data (group) are, yes.
[08:29] <dragontech> i verified that the wireless is turned on
[08:29] <loopidity> Flannel so should i reinstall lamp then?
[08:30] <Flannel> loopidity: No, How are you checking that www-data doesn't exist?
[08:30] <tyler_d4> gparted has ntfs unselected(greyed out)
[08:31] <loopidity> Flannel groups
[08:32] <dragontech> also is there a way to let ubuntu read my windows files?
[08:32] <loopidity> Flannel and yesterday I had problem setting up virtual hosts also, e.g if I setup a servername then the localhost was down for some reason
[08:32] <dragontech> i have a dual boot system and i can't access my windows files
[08:32] <SirClueless> hi guys, i was wondering if ubuntu is supposed to be much larger after updating to 10.04
[08:32] <[Screamo]> dragontech yeahh, just mount the windows partition
[08:32] <boritek> Soul_Sample: pulseworks here. The system engine doesnt let u change themes, though
[08:33] <dragontech> how do i see the partition?
[08:33] <[Screamo]> dragontech goto Places> compter
[08:33] <dragontech> ubuntu was installed via wubi
[08:33] <[Screamo]> *computer
[08:33] <[Screamo]> hmmm
[08:33] <BunnyFF> I have an SATA disk attached to my desktop, what is the CLI command to see if ubuntu can see the drive?
[08:33] <Soul_Sample> boritek: yup, i've noticed... but there's always something with java apps :D
[08:33] <dragontech> when i goto computer all i see is file system and cdrom
[08:33] <[Screamo]> BunnyFF, dragontech, you could just open the disk utility
[08:34] <loopidity> dragontech $ ls /dev/sd<tab> do you see all your partitions?
[08:34] <[Screamo]> Syatem> Administration> Disk utiltiy
[08:34] <DASPRiD> loopidity, it'd probly easier to look unter /dev/disk/by-id/
[08:34] <boritek> :)
[08:35] <BunnyFF> yea, not there. I think this is one dead disk
[08:35] <boritek> also, i cant use the net, behind a proxy server....:(
[08:35] <boritek> so no net radio and lyrics
[08:35] <BunnyFF> [Screamo], no GUI on this machine ;)
[08:35] <[Screamo]> :o
[08:35] <dragontech> using the disk utility it shows the partition for windows is already mounted
[08:35] <BunnyFF> fdisk -l should see it too, correct?
[08:36] <dragontech> but i still cant figure out how to view the files
[08:36] <[Screamo]> dragontech the look in /media
[08:37] <lambrecht> anyone can help me  i have ubuntu server 9.10 and some services dont start but they are configured to start
[08:37] <dragontech> ok i found it
[08:37] <dragontech> thanks
[08:37] <slimjimflim> hi, i'm trying to use my webcam in flash w/ firefox. it works except every other frame blinks a frame of random pixels.  using flexcam 100 and using 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so firefox' to start firefox.  can anyone help?
[08:38] <MightyTweek> dragontech, just FYI, if you're using Wubi, it's not technically dual-boot in the traditional sense
[08:38] <[Screamo]> slimjimflim, have you tried not using FF?
[08:38] <Multi> does anyone have any experience in using FUSE and samba with Likewise open?
[08:38] <slimjimflim> [Screamo]: i tried opera
[08:38] <dragontech> oops
[08:38] <slimjimflim> didn't work
[08:38] <slimjimflim> i tried cheese, did work
[08:38] <slimjimflim> i think it's flash
[08:39] <BunnyFF> anyone know of a good raid 5 tutorial to get the array back up after one of the disks fails?
[08:39] <g3d> hi, I had some random update and now my X server starts on display :1. I used to have awesome set up as window manager in gnome and now it doesn't start at all, falling back to default gnome wm. When I start Xephyr on display 0, I am able to run awesome on it. When I select it manually when loggin in into gdm, it tries to run and goes back to login screen in gdm. Is there any way I can see why it does this?
[08:39] <g3d> And/or how to make it to start on display 0 again?
[08:39] <gnuyen> I'm trying to disable a soundcard, but when i try to remove the module it says "Fatal module in use"
[08:39] <[Screamo]> slimjimflim hmm, what exactly are you using the webcam for?
[08:39] <gnuyen> is there anyway to force it to remove
[08:40] <slimjimflim> live streaming video through ustream.com
[08:40] <slimjimflim> depends on flash
[08:40] <slimjimflim> or justin.tv
[08:40] <slimjimflim> but the same happens on both sites
[08:41] <scheng> hi, question about printer in ubuntu.
[08:41] <slimjimflim> scheng: don't ask to ask, just ask
[08:41] <scheng> why i couldn't select color model under it ?
[08:42] <Multi> am I the only one in here who´s playing with likewise? =)
[08:42] <scheng> i'v installed the printer driver. but there only Grayscale in color model option.
[08:43] <scheng> slimjimflim: yeah. thanks.:)
[08:43] <slimjimflim> scheng: you need to be more specific
[08:44] <slimjimflim> like printer model number and ubuntu release
[08:44] <boritek> Soul_Sample: uhm, it seems like, that it it works behind proxy, the default radios linke could be wrong, i tested.
[08:45] <TenhiShadow>  hi, question about webcam in ubuntu
[08:45] <scheng> slimjimflim: ubuntu 10.0.4 and printer is FX docu-center C3000, but i didn't find the driver for it , so i installed 'Generic PCL 6/PCL XL Printe' driver.
[08:45] <TenhiShadow> i`v tasted it in kopete
[08:46] <TenhiShadow> it works
[08:46] <DASPRiD> 10.0.4?
[08:46] <TenhiShadow> a see image
[08:46] <shoonya> does any knows how to specify font in xcowsay
[08:46] <DASPRiD> i knew it, there is a month between december and january!
[08:46] <TenhiShadow> but i dont need webcam always switch on
[08:46] <TenhiShadow> how can i off it?
[08:46] <TenhiShadow> netbook webcam
[08:47] <scheng> slimjimflim: the driver is worked. but i couldn't select the color model for it. so there is no color. :(
[08:47] <slimjimflim> like printer model number and ubuntu release
[08:47] <Talu> How do i open a folder trough terminal that uses 2 lines. For example Azureus Downloads.
[08:47] <SkyNetMaster> any clues in which packet implementations of dlfcn is on ubuntu?
[08:47] <TenhiShadow> cd
[08:47] <TenhiShadow> change dir
[08:47] <slimjimflim> scheng: you need to be more specific
[08:48] <slimjimflim> ^^^
[08:48] <TenhiShadow> (
[08:48] <TenhiShadow> help me
[08:48] <TenhiShadow> somebody
[08:48] <slimjimflim> Talu: you mean with a space?
[08:49] <Talu> slimjimflim: Yeah, if theres a space in the name of the folder
[08:49] <lambrecht> anyone can help me  i have ubuntu server 9.10 and some services dont start but they are configured to start
[08:49] <slimjimflim> Talu: just use quotes
[08:49] <slimjimflim> use quotes around the whole path Talu
[08:49] <Talu> slimjimflim: How do i do that?
[08:49] <digitalfiz> so i have lucid installed and fully updated. Every so often I'll be working or playing and then all of a sudden its like gnome dies or x11 whichever and i get sent back to the login screen where i have to login again and none of the programs i had open are open anymore is this a known issue?
[08:50] <TenhiShadow> Talu: ""
[08:50] <Flannel> Talu: Just escape the space (foo bar becomes /foo\ bar/).  Using tab complete in your pathswill do this automatically
[08:50] <loopidity> again, I made a virtual host, and added it to the /etc/hosts file - now my localhost is down -  FF says Unable to Connect - why?
[08:50] <gottto> lambrecht: might help to say which don't start
[08:50] <lambrecht> gotto apache2 webmin zabbix-server zabbix agent
[08:50] <slimjimflim> Talu: mkdir 'foo bar'; cd 'foo bar'
[08:51] <scheng> slimjimflim:hi, i'm sorry if i missed something. but i didn't get what your mean 'specific'?
[08:51] <gottto> lambrecht: and why do you think they are set to start?
[08:51] <lambrecht> gotto i look in webmin
[08:52] <slimjimflim> scheng: tell us the model number of your printer
[08:52] <slimjimflim> scheng: also tell us the version of ubuntu you are using
[08:52] <TenhiShadow> could u help me with my webcam??????????
[08:52] <stekarn> does anyone have any experience in using FUSE and samba with Likewise open?
[08:52] <gottto> lambrecht: are there links for them in  /etc/rc2.d?
[08:52] <lambrecht> i look
[08:52] <scheng> slimjimflim:2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:10:02 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:52] <theunsgis> i am using ubuntu 10.04, when using the laptop with  a projector, and i starting to type, the "connection" to the projector is lost? Any ideas?
[08:53] <slimjimflim> TenhiShadow: if nobody answers you it's not because they don't like you.  it's because they don't know.  try waiting 1/2 hour and try again.  maybe somebody new will have arrived
[08:53] <pr0ton> hi everybody
[08:53] <lambrecht> gottu yes there are
[08:53] <pr0ton> i'm planning to buy an AMD64 PC
[08:53] <TenhiShadow> slimjimflim: thanks
[08:53] <slimjimflim> np
[08:54] <gottto> lambrecht: what does   sudo /etc/init.d/apache start   return?
[08:54] <pr0ton> AMD Phenom II 555 BE actually
[08:54] <TenhiShadow> pr0ton: good choise
[08:54] <pr0ton> so, i should install the 64-bit version right?
[08:54] <lambrecht> wait
[08:54] <nava> Hello
[08:54] <theadmin> gottto: That won't return a thing.
[08:54] <TenhiShadow> pr0ton es
[08:54] <gottto> theadmin: hes on 9.10
[08:54] <pr0ton> so now, are there any issues running the 32-bit stuff on it?
[08:54] <theadmin> gottto: It'd be /etc/init.d/apache2 or service apache2
[08:54] <scheng> slimjimflim:and the print is 'FX DocuCentre C3000 PCL6'.
[08:54] <TenhiShadow> yes*
[08:54] <gottto> ok thnx theadmin
[08:55] <slimjimflim> scheng: hmm, i'm not sure about that one, maybe somebody else knows
[08:55] <pr0ton> i can run it as if it is a normal thing only right, no problems installing a 64-bit version, is ti?
[08:55] <gottto> lambrecht: it is   sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[08:55] <nava> who is admin here ? :)
[08:55] <theadmin> nava: Sec
[08:55] <nava> can i ask you smth sr :)
[08:55] <pr0ton> anybody?
[08:55] <TenhiShadow> pr0ton yes thats it
[08:55] <slimjimflim> theadmin is theadmin ;)
[08:55] <silv3r_m00n> how to convert audio cd to mp3 ?
[08:55] <adamkex> pr0ton: all open source software has a 64bit version of it
[08:55] <slimjimflim> silv3r_m00n: ffmpeg
[08:55] <pr0ton> adamkex: what if it doesnt?
[08:55] <scheng> slimjimflim:Yeah. maybe, but actually,i didn't find the driver for that printer. so i installed the driver for 'Generic PCL 6/PCL XL Printer'.
[08:56] <lambrecht> gottu sudo /etc/init.d/ command not found
[08:56] <pr0ton> and what about codecs and all, will the 32 bit versions work?
[08:56] <theadmin> pr0ton: Codecs, codecs, just use VLC and forget about em
[08:56] <silv3r_m00n> slimjimflim: anything easier ?
[08:56] <gottto> lambrecht: it is a path to the link   /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[08:56] <TenhiShadow> )
[08:56] <pr0ton> hmmm
[08:56] <TenhiShadow> install ubuntu-restrickted
[08:57] <adamkex> pr0ton: flash does not officially work, but ubuntu should automatically do a workaround so it works
[08:57] <pr0ton> i use default Movie Player
[08:57] <TenhiShadow> and thats is codecs
[08:57] <pr0ton> ok, so ubuntu-restricted works right?
[08:57] <TenhiShadow> yes
[08:57] <pr0ton> Flash doesnt work?
[08:57] <pr0ton> it doesnt even use the 32-bit version?
[08:57] <TenhiShadow> it works
[08:57] <pr0ton> ok, cool
[08:57] <theadmin> pr0ton: Flash on x64 is kind of buggy
[08:57] <adamkex> pr0ton: yes with a 32bit version, it does something weird so it works
[08:57] <TenhiShadow> ubuntu0restricted-extras have flash
[08:57] <lambrecht> gottu apache 2 could not determine the servers fqdn using 192.168.0.190 and some virtual host shit
[08:58] <pr0ton> adamkex: so no issues right?
[08:58] <scheng> slimjimflim: And the color module  couldn't work until now. that's my question...
[08:58] <adamkex> pr0ton: don't ask me, i don't use 64bit, but it should work
[08:58] <gottto> lambrecht: it might still run - do   ps aux | grep apache
[08:58] <pr0ton> oh ok
[08:58] <TenhiShadow> scheng what is your printer?
[08:58] <TenhiShadow> what the firm
[08:59] <TenhiShadow> manufacturer
[08:59] <slimjimflim> scheng: i don't know
[08:59] <theadmin> slimjimflim: Might be listed in "lspci | less" output.
[08:59] <adamkex> pr0ton: don't worry, install the 64bit version
[08:59] <pr0ton> ok cool!
[08:59] <TenhiShadow> +1
[08:59] <slimjimflim> silv3r_m00n: there's grip
[08:59] <adamkex> pr0ton: 64bit version of ubuntu*
[08:59] <pr0ton> i'll go and but it then!
[08:59] <pr0ton> **buy
[08:59] <scheng> TenhiShadow the printer is 'FX DocuCentre C3000 PCL6', but i installed  the driver for 'Generic PCL 6/PCL XL Printer'.
[09:00] <TenhiShadow> buy?
[09:00] <lambrecht> gottu /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
[09:00] <pr0ton> buy the processor :)
[09:00] <TenhiShadow> isnt it free?
[09:00] <slimjimflim> theadmin: you mean my webcam?
[09:00] <scheng> slimjimflim: anyway...thanks."_"
[09:00] <pr0ton> i hope it was :D
[09:00] <TenhiShadow> aaa
[09:00] <TenhiShadow> xD
[09:00] <theadmin> lambrecht: wtf? You don't do that... You do "sudo apache2ctl start" these days
[09:00] <pat5star> apache2ctl start
[09:01] <glen___> anyone up with the "Startup applications preferences'? I have a problem where the system is ignoring them.  Like network manager etc..
[09:01] <theadmin> slimjimflim: The printer
[09:01] <pat5star> theadmin: u beat me
[09:01] <gottto> lambrecht: so it is running - in /etc/rc2.d   does the apache link have a k or s at the begginning?
[09:01] <jpds> theadmin: wtf? You don't do that; you do sudo service apache2 start ;)
[09:01] <slimjimflim> figures
[09:01] <pr0ton> any good guide for why people should switch to ubuntu?
[09:01] <lambrecht> thats whats returnd the ps aux
[09:01] <pr0ton> i want to convince more and more people to use it!
[09:01] <theadmin> glen___: you'd better use some advanced update-alternatives GUI
[09:01] <pr0ton> so far 4 converts!
[09:01] <slimjimflim> pr0ton: show them windows ads
[09:01] <gottto> theadmin: lambrecht> thats whats returnd the ps aux
[09:01] <TenhiShadow> )
[09:01] <pr0ton> ?
[09:02] <pr0ton> meaning?
[09:02] <slimjimflim> pure comedy
[09:02] <glen___> the gui is configured.  the system is starting without most of it though
[09:02] <scheng> TenhiShadow: any idea?
[09:02] <slimjimflim> windows ads are total suck
[09:02] <lambrecht> sorry hehe i know its only monday :=p
[09:02] <digitalfiz> hey now windows 7 was my idea
[09:02] <TenhiShadow> scheng: discribe the situation
[09:02] <pr0ton> windows are a total suck
[09:02] <slimjimflim> rofl
[09:02] <TenhiShadow> pleace
[09:02] <TenhiShadow> sorry for bad english
[09:02] <TenhiShadow> )
[09:02] <stekarn> windows has it bright sides, just like women :D
[09:02] <slimjimflim> windows was my idea...i helped write it
[09:03] <slimjimflim> er i mean xwindows
[09:03] <stekarn> slimjimflim: cool
[09:03] <slimjimflim> no jk
[09:03] <stekarn> so i can blame u for every problem i got with windows? :
[09:03] <scheng> TenhiShadow: the printer is 'FX DocuCentre C3000 PCL6', i didn't find the driver ,so i installed  the driver for 'Generic PCL 6/PCL XL Printer'. and now, i could print the page, but have no color configure option.
[09:03] <glen___> I have to manually start network to get connected here
[09:03] <slimjimflim> i'd never work for windows
[09:04] <silv3r_m00n> sound in headphone is very less , how do I increase it further , increased all mixer settings
[09:04] <lambrecht> gottu i changed somthing in rc-sysinit.conf http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1393573 but it still dont work
[09:04] <TenhiShadow> scheng: in ubuntu i`ve no ideas about solution
[09:04] <scheng> TenhiShadow: So sad to hear that. but anyway, thanks.
[09:05] <TenhiShadow> slimjimflim: i`ve 9 years working with windows
[09:05] <TenhiShadow> and linux is wery difficult to start
[09:05] <atokad> so anybody got suggestions for how i should go about turning my old ibm thinkpad into a media server for my ps3? ubuntu server and an external 1tb drive are the equipment
[09:05] <atokad> im not sure i can accomplish what im looking for with samba
[09:06] <[Screamo]> hmm
[09:06] <scheng> hey, guys, i'm wondering is it possible to print color page under ubuntu? anybody ever try ?
[09:06] <[Screamo]> ps3 suport UnPn?
[09:06] <pat5star> atokad: mythbuntu?
[09:06] <Peddy> my router ping looks like this: http://pastebin.com/n73dxmRT and internet is super-slow. What could be the problem?
[09:07] <atokad> mythbuntu? havnt heard of it... im a recent return to the linux scene currently only running a web/mail/dns server
[09:07] <glen___> I will try again tomorrow
[09:07] <guest7895> hi
[09:07] <DASPRiD> atokad, you didnt beceue it's a myth!
[09:07] <pat5star> lol
[09:07] <atokad> lol
[09:07] <pat5star> atokad: I don't know a lot about it, don't use media server here...but I keep hearing a lot of good things about it
[09:08] <TenhiShadow> Peddy:  try to change firmware
[09:08] <TenhiShadow> update
[09:08] <Peddy> TenhiShadow, for the router?
[09:08] <TenhiShadow> yes
[09:09] <pat5star> dd-wrt
[09:09] <Peddy> tomato
[09:09] <TenhiShadow> dd-wrt if chip is railink
[09:09] <TenhiShadow> atheros
[09:09] <atokad> my hope is to be able to use my server as a headless bit torrent client then access file from my ps3 in the living room and stream to the desktop in the office
[09:09] <TenhiShadow> and this router is in database
[09:09] <Peddy> TenhiShadow, running tomato 1.2 on wrt54gl
[09:10] <gottto> lambrecht: afaik those services should be in the 2nd runlevel - run sysvinit-rc-conf again and check pls
[09:10] <Peddy> 1.2seven*
[09:10] <adamkex> atokad: why do you use bit torrent?
[09:10] <adamkex> ;)
[09:10] <pat5star> atokad: oh, well you don't need mythbuntu for that
[09:10] <atokad> completely legit indy music and film downloads....... plus im to cheap to subscribe to usenet
[09:10] <TenhiShadow> Peddy: i`ve never used tomato
[09:11] <lambrecht> gottu ok
[09:11] <adamkex> atokad: i think you can use VLC to strem to your office
[09:11] <adamkex> atokad: my cousin does that to stream music
[09:11] <TenhiShadow> maybe ping is long because of your provider?
[09:11] <richdel> atokad: ive heard good things about this as well http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/
[09:11] <lambrecht> gottu they are in rc2.d
[09:11] <Peddy> TenhiShadow, ping is to my router from my PC, not going through internet
[09:12] <TenhiShadow> xD
[09:12] <TenhiShadow> ok
[09:12] <TenhiShadow> reboot it
[09:12] <stekarn> Peddy: check the condition of your cables and as TenhiShadow says, reboot
[09:12] <lambrecht> gottu http://nopaste.info/bd62e0df50.html my syslog
[09:12] <stekarn> maybe u got a small round robin?
[09:13] <mohan_> hi, how to make windows recognise grub of ubuntu?
[09:13] <TenhiShadow> wery simple
[09:13] <pat5star> my download is almost done, upgrading to lucid, if not back soon things went horribly wrong ;)
[09:13] <theadmin> mohan_: No way
[09:13] <atokad> richdel: doesnt look installabe on a non gui system... and id rather not rebuild my server and or install a gui on it as its also delivering web content
[09:13] <TenhiShadow> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:13] <theadmin> mohan_: You do it the other way, install GRUB instead of ntloader
[09:13] <atokad> careful lucid may kill your wireless drivers
[09:14] <TenhiShadow> uncomment strings with discription windows load
[09:14] <pat5star> atokad: ohoh, has that been a common problem?
[09:14] <atokad> happened to me a few others had the same issue
[09:14] <atokad> also lost my windows boot entry in grub
[09:14] <atokad> had to rebuld my grub conf
[09:15] <pat5star> atokad: as much as I love ubuntu, I never have luck upgrading. sounds like I may not be back for awhile ;)
[09:15] <mohan_> theadmin: i was having two hard disks, now my first harddisk is taken away, after that it started giving me Grub loading error 15,
[09:15] <TenhiShadow> xD
[09:15] <atokad> just have another internet source ready, had it all fixed in about 10 minutes
[09:16] <mohan_> theadmin: so i googled for answers booted using windows cd, and repaired using fixmbr command.
[09:16] <TenhiShadow> it was installed on this disc
[09:16] <mohan_> after that it booting windows only, it not showing ubuntu at all.
[09:16] <mohan_> theadmin: after that it booting windows only, it not showing ubuntu at all.
[09:16] <SloY> Any can help me? ;D i need a recover my Grub after reinstallation a XP but now i dont have a LiveCD
[09:16] <TenhiShadow> ubuntu in first disk?
[09:16] <ftab_> exit
[09:16] <DJones> !grub | mohan_
[09:16] <pat5star> lucid is lts isn't it? if so, this should be my last upgrade for a long time anyways, so I can take it. Bring on the pain ;)
[09:17] <[Screamo]> SloY, what about using a usb stick?
[09:17] <mohan_> ubottu: i am using 8.10
[09:17] <SloY> i dont have time to download new. :P
[09:17] <SloY> can i do that from a XP ?
[09:17] <TenhiShadow> SloY: no
[09:17] <TenhiShadow> live cd
[09:17] <TenhiShadow> live usb
[09:17] <SloY> Um. : /
[09:17] <SloY> Really? :/
[09:18] <BunnyFF> anyone know how to mount a raid5 array in degraded mode?
[09:18] <[Screamo]> just download and burn a live cd =/
[09:18] <atokad> SloY: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[09:18] <[Screamo]> or if your comp suports booting from usb, live usb =/
[09:18] <SloY> i dont have time now to donwloading a new Karmic : /
[09:18] <TenhiShadow> SloY: u may install any utilites for loading OS under xp
[09:19] <TenhiShadow> for example acronis os selector
[09:19] <pat5star> in this day and age I don't understand why windows still insists on overwriting the mbr and assuming no one would ever want another os on the same hdd!
[09:19] <TenhiShadow> bootstar
[09:19] <Peddy> TenhiShadow, looks like it was badly configured QoS on my router. thanks for your help!
[09:19] <TenhiShadow> etc
[09:19] <SloY> its soemthing like a bootloader?
[09:19] <TenhiShadow> Peddy:  ok)
[09:19] <lambrecht> gotto http://nopaste.info/bd62e0df50.html my syslog
[09:19] <TenhiShadow> SloY: yes thats it
[09:19] <theadmin> pat5star: Because Microsoft is stupid
[09:19] <TenhiShadow> )
[09:20] <dragontech> i agree theadmin
[09:20] <pr0ton> everybody does!
[09:20] <TenhiShadow> microsoft isn`t stupid
[09:20] <TenhiShadow> they have very smart marketing strategy
[09:20] <TenhiShadow> thats why they still alive
[09:20] <pat5star> i could understand with 95 even up to 2k, but since xp and now 7...that's just crazy
[09:21] <dragontech> if microsoft isn't stupid then why does windows have so many problems
[09:21] <atokad> have to disagree with the microsoft statement i have an equal amount of love for apple microsoft and linux
[09:21] <TenhiShadow> problems?
[09:21] <TenhiShadow> ok
[09:21] <pat5star> I wouldn't say they're stupid either...just a big bully ;)
[09:21] <atokad> i consider myself versed well enough in windows to not have problems
[09:21] <TenhiShadow> i will try to discribe it
[09:21] <atokad> every os has flaws
[09:22] <atokad> if ubuntu were perfect none of us would be in this channel
[09:22] <theadmin> atokad: Well, due to malware on Windows it gets quite hard to avoid it
[09:22] <TenhiShadow> when something isnt` working microsoft say: buy next version, in next version all will work
[09:22] <adamkex> i am here for fun
[09:22] <theadmin> atokad: No, there would be people who just don't get how to do it :D
[09:22] <adamkex> so i'd be here
[09:22] <adamkex> ;)
[09:22] <pat5star> i seldom use it, but gotta admit I do like my win 7 os, and actually didn't mind xp that much either...but my karmic runs so well and now I'm about to ruin it, oops, I mean improve it ;)
[09:22] <TenhiShadow> thats only earning money
[09:23] <atokad> another thing ive gone for about a year now with a windows xp install with no antivirus without a bit of malware
[09:23] <theadmin> pat5star: eh, why stay on Karmic? Update to Lucid...
[09:23] <TenhiShadow> )
[09:23] <TenhiShadow> Lucid..
[09:23] <stevecam> seems to be a bug in ubuntu, if a program is using a disk and you click to eject it, it will tell you that it safe to umount even when the disk hasnt been unmounted
[09:23] <pat5star> theadmin: that's what I'm doing...still downloading it
[09:23] <TenhiShadow> no
[09:23] <dragontech> i have been using windows for many years i just recently started getting into linux and i find linux to be much more stable
[09:23] <atokad> it stumps the heck out of me when i get on someones computer to do a clean up/virus removaal wondering how you could possibly mess a computer up so bad
[09:23] <pat5star> atokad: we're all here because we're like the maytag man. We're waiting to offer support to others but nobody is coming with complaints ;)
[09:24] <TenhiShadow> dragontech: me too
[09:24] <theadmin> dragontech: It is, and know why? Anybody of billions of people who live on earth may join the development. It's funny, but even Microsoft contributed some code to Linux
[09:24] <TenhiShadow> it`s more stable and doesnt demand big resources
[09:24] <atokad> microsoft hosts internal intranets on unix based web servers
[09:24] <stevecam> dragontech, hopefully you will find that there is so much more to linux then stability
[09:25] <gottto> lambrecht: nothing in there to indicate why you have your trouble
[09:25] <TenhiShadow> atokad: cause it`s more safe)
[09:25] <atokad> agreed
[09:25] <dragontech> i have already found many uses to linux and i am trying to get my company to find linux compatible cctv capture cards
[09:25] <TenhiShadow> they afraid hackers
[09:26] <atokad> when it comes down to it though im a male in my mid twenties and i love video games and my computer thus... i still use windows
[09:26] <pat5star> bill g uses ubuntu with a windows theme
[09:26] <TenhiShadow> )
[09:26] <atokad> as well as for photoshop, after effects, dreamweaver
[09:26] <TenhiShadow> maybe
[09:26] <theadmin> pat5star: No, he uses a Mac, and that's quite well known
[09:26] <dragontech> i would love to switch from the windows capture cards to linux i always run into problems with windows
[09:26] <The_L0neWlf> anyone here able to help me figure out a problem with Skype??
[09:26] <atokad> and pretty much all other major design applications
[09:26] <pat5star> theadmin: I'm just being silly, you serious?
[09:27] <theadmin> pat5star: Yeah. He was seen with a Macbook on a presentation of some Windows version
[09:27] <pat5star> theadmin: lol
[09:27] <TenhiShadow> it`s difficult chating in english...
[09:27] <pat5star> yeah...done my download, now installing Lucid...soon comes the greatness :)
[09:28] <TenhiShadow> i`ve install superOS
[09:28] <atokad> lucid killed my compiz fusion :(
[09:28] <Trota>  Sono Felice di essere tra voi,Ciao Bella gente  ;)
[09:28] <TenhiShadow> 9.04 but with programms
[09:28] <DASPRiD> atokad, sue him!
[09:28] <tyler_d4> how do I remove the asr tags from drives(raid)
[09:28] <pat5star> i haven't even read the changelogs, any big changes I can expect?
[09:28] <TenhiShadow> Trota:  what?
[09:28] <lambrecht> gotto are you still there
[09:28] <gottto> !it | Trota
[09:28] <The_L0neWlf> well I guess I guess not
[09:29] <atokad> i dont think you can sue an open source project for anything other then copyright issues
[09:29] <Trota> ok
[09:29] <lambrecht> sorry didnt see
[09:29] <theadmin> pat5star: Quicker boot (sysvinit and HAL completely gone out of boot proces) is pretty big already
[09:29] <gottto> lambrecht: nothing in there to indicate why you have your trouble
[09:29] <lambrecht> gotto yes i see there is no problem weird
[09:29] <dragontech> i feel that if i could convince the owner of the company i work for to switch to linux for our pc based equipment we would beable to grow with out as many complaint of the common windows bsod problems
[09:29] <lambrecht> how come they dont start then
[09:29] <atokad> i have not bsod's in years
[09:30] <atokad> YEARS
[09:30] <pat5star> quicker boot would be nice. mine's been getting horribly slow lately. on the other hand, seldom need to reboot anyways ;)
[09:30] <gottto> lambrecht: but it wouldn't show apps not starting - that ubuntuforums link suggested editing a file - did you do that?
[09:30] <pr0ton> atokad, how often do you use Windows?
[09:30] <TenhiShadow> )
[09:30] <atokad> when it does happen its on the hardware / bios level
[09:30] <atokad> main os
[09:30] <theadmin> atokad: I have them every day, too lazy to make Windows shutdown normally so I just hit Ctrl+ScrollLock twice and it BSoDs on me and reboots lol
[09:30] <TenhiShadow> i`ve no problems with bsods on windows
[09:30] <lambrecht> gotto yes i did that
[09:30] <stevecam> haha, bsods
[09:31] <gottto> lambrecht: when did this prob start?
[09:31] <dragontech> when using windows for cctv recording you have to remember data is constantly being written and rewritten
[09:31] <stevecam> there is a screensaver that will simulate bsods on windows
[09:31] <dragontech> that causes major fragmentation
[09:31] <stevecam> dragontech, why re-written?
[09:31] <atokad> then defragment regularly
[09:31] <pat5star> atokad: same with me. also I don't use virus scanners or any of that other protection crap. just keep windows updates up to date and use common sense when browing or reading email
[09:31] <lambrecht> gotto dont know realy mybe installig squid bur removed it now still the sam
[09:31] <theadmin> Kernel panic is oh so much more scary then BSoD
[09:31] <TenhiShadow> bsods it`s problem that have people who can`t configure their windows well
[09:31] <atokad> set up a triple redundent hot swapable raid array and defragment in single drive stages
[09:32] <Lazy^> Hello, i've small problem. I'm using gnome on ubuntu, when i set panel to transparent, application place and place where i have clock aren
[09:32] <Lazy^> t transparent, panel is only transparent in the middle
[09:32] <gottto> lambrecht: you could try an apt-get update && upgrade maybe
[09:32] <lambrecht> gotto ok i try and then reboot ?
[09:32] <theadmin> Lazy^: Some applets are not transparent, maybe people in #gnome have a fix
[09:33] <c0l2e> what's wrong with my ubuntu 10.04... when I access the desktop via vncviewer from an ubuntu 9.10 machine.. it only display the initial screen then whatever action made is not displayed anymore
[09:33] <dragontech> unfortunately defraging when a system is recording video doesn't work to well and customers don't like to have to stop recording just to defrag
[09:33] <pat5star> theadmin: so true, and in fact I've had that more than bsod last couple of years...but still I could count # of panics on one hand so neither is really a factor for complaining anymore
[09:33] <atokad> i like this channel... honna have to hang out here more often
[09:33] <gottto> lambrecht: yep :]
[09:33] <stevecam> atokad, so do 1504 other chatters
[09:33] <Lazy^> theadmin: but gnome-menu (Applications/Place/System) arent transparent, on 9.10 they were...
[09:33] <lambrecht> gotto upgrade 0 so wont change anything i think
[09:33] <theadmin> pat5star: I didn't understand what you just said.
[09:33] <atokad> thats why its tripple redundent and hot swapable you pull one drive to defrag it still rrecordss on the other two
[09:34] <TenhiShadow> where are u from?
[09:34] <c0l2e> using vncviewer from ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 not working
[09:34] <gottto> lambrecht: k
[09:34] <c0l2e> it just show the first screen then freeze to it
[09:34] <karrot> can anyone please tell me why in the world my home server (running 10.04 server) freezes when making a transfer through samba.  Also, to get it to unfreeze I have to press a keyboard button, on the server...
[09:34] <EgYPaRaDoX> I installed grub and ran update grub , but it doesn't detect Windows
[09:34] <gottto> lambrecht: is there a file   /etc/innittab   ?
[09:35] <gottto> lambrecht: is there a file   /etc/inittab   ?
[09:35] <pat5star> theadmin: u said something about kernel panics being worse than bsod, I'm just agreeing. Actually, I'm just being chatty to pass time while lucid is installing :)
[09:35] <lambrecht> gotto i look wait
[09:35] <gottto> k
[09:35] <AnxiousNut> how can i restart my sound system in 10.04
[09:35] <atokad> type vi /etc/inittab and find out
[09:35] <atokad> if its blank then nope
[09:35] <TenhiShadow> xfc lyz gjxnb
[09:35] <gottto> wish he'd get my name right...
[09:35] <TenhiShadow> sorry
[09:35] <karrot> how can i restart into command line?
[09:36] <atokad> karrot: just open a terminal lol
[09:36] <pat5star> karrot: anything in your /var/log/samba/ logs?
[09:36] <lambrecht> gotto no there isnt
[09:36] <stevecam> karrot, you dont restart into command line
[09:36] <gottto> k
[09:36] <stevecam> karrot, you press ctrl+F1 up to f6 for different terminals
[09:36] <pat5star> karrot: alt F1 will switch you over to command line
[09:37] <karrot> pat5star: alt F1?
[09:37] <stevecam> i mean ctrl+alt f1-f6
[09:37] <pat5star> oops, or I mean ctrl, my bad
[09:37] <pat5star> oops, I mean ctrl, alt, F1
[09:37] <stevecam> and ctrl+alt f7 to go back to your gui
[09:37] <pat5star> um, don't pay attention to me ;)
[09:37] <TenhiShadow> )
[09:37] <lambrecht> gotto when i look in web min all services are there and are enabled to start  and it worked before its strange
[09:37] <EgYPaRaDoX> I installed grub and  then ran update-grub , but it doesn't detect Windows.
[09:38] <atokad> rebuild your grub conf
[09:38] <theadmin> atokad: That's what update-grub does :/
[09:38] <karrot> pat5star: I see now, thanks
[09:39] <TenhiShadow> somebody
[09:39] <pat5star> I got 2 GHz dual core with 4G's ram, upgrade says 1 hour 40 mins still to finish installing!?! wow
[09:39] <atokad> oops
[09:39] <ns5> Why is ssh daemon running?  It's not enabled in rc2.
[09:39] <atokad> lol
[09:39] <TenhiShadow> how stopp using ipv6 adress
[09:39] <TenhiShadow> using command line
[09:40] <gottto> lambrecht: it sure is strange
[09:40] <TenhiShadow> pat5star: downloading packets
[09:40] <atokad> id consider myself an power linux user not an expert mainly because of my general lapses of common sense
[09:40] <pat5star> TenhiShadow: nope, all downloaded...this is just installing
[09:40] <dragontech> i just finished updateing my gf's laptop to ubuntu 10.04 and it is still having problems with the wireless card
[09:41] <atokad> dragon what kind of laptop
[09:41] <TenhiShadow> pat5star: its` intresting)
[09:41] <dragontech> the card is enabled but it is not seeing my network
[09:41] <atokad> is it running a broadcom card
[09:41] <lambrecht> gotto afther the ssh is started it doenst load more things
[09:41] <dragontech> its a hp pavilion zd8000
[09:41] <pirlo> hi all, can anyone comment on ubuntu lucid 64bit? i would like to know if there are any problems with it.
[09:41] <dragontech> yes
[09:41] <pat5star> pirlo: ask me in a few minutes :)
[09:41] <dragontech> i have the broadcom b43 drivers already enabled
[09:41] <pat5star> pirlo: in the process of installing right now
[09:41] <atokad> did you re download your drivers and blacklist ssb and such?
[09:42] <TenhiShadow> i`ve acer aspire d250-0bw and 3 OS: ubuntu, winxp, win7
[09:42] <TenhiShadow> xD
[09:42] <dragontech> no
[09:42] <dragontech> how do i do all that
 good luck!
[09:42] <atokad> one moment had to do this earlier today ill find you a link
[09:42] <dragontech> ok thank you
[09:42] <gottto> lambrecht: I'm outta ideas sorry
[09:42] <lambrecht> gotto is there a way to restart the init files all at once
[09:43] <pat5star> pirlo: you too...I've been asking same as you and the only warning I keep getting is wireless drivers, which sadly is the norm
[09:43] <Galerien> pat5star: what's your problem ?
[09:43] <dragontech> pirlo: i am running lucid 64bit on my laptop without any dificulties
 so if i want to install, i better install it on a desktop.
[09:43] <Fireking300> You like Compiz Fusion dragontech ?
[09:44] <dragontech> never used it
[09:44] <TenhiShadow> and dont use it
[09:44] <dragontech> i am very new to linux
[09:44] <lambrecht> gotto ok thanks for the help
[09:44] <TenhiShadow> )
[09:44] <pat5star> pirlo: I'm installing on my laptop, but I got an ethernet cable nearby :)
[09:44] <Fireking300> TenhiShadow, why not? Its awesome
[09:44] <gottto> lambrecht: not an easy way that i know of
[09:44] <pat5star> Galerien: huh?
[09:44] <Jordan_U> dragontech: Just to rule it out, have you made sure that the wireless switch isn't in the off position?
[09:44] <dragontech> yes
[09:44] <pirlo> well last time i installed karmic 64bit and it ran slower than karmic 32bit, weird
[09:45] <TenhiShadow> )
[09:45] <pat5star> Galerien: is that a friendly "what's your problem?" or a sarcastic one? lol
[09:45] <ns5> Why openssh server is always started?
[09:45] <TenhiShadow> i dont need compiz
[09:45] <Galerien> pat5star: friendly :D
[09:45] <TenhiShadow> it`s just a little game
[09:45] <Galerien> I just arrived
[09:45] <Fireking300> I never said you did need it. But its very cool app.
[09:45] <lambrecht> gotto mybe if you login to my system you can see the problem ?
[09:45] <TenhiShadow> it`s individualy
[09:45] <pat5star> Galerien: oh ok...my paranoia level is up a bit, earlier I was stating that I didn't mind windows lol
[09:45] <TenhiShadow> )
[09:46] <dragontech> on her laptop the wireless has a button and it has the light on showing that its on
[09:46] <Fireking300> Why do you keep on doing ) ?
[09:46] <Fireking300> O.o
[09:46] <StdDoubt> I installed lucid 32 bit and when it boots it displays the splash screen and than the screen goes black. How can I acess a shell in the boot?
[09:46] <Galerien> pat5star: and from what i've read, you got problem with your wireless, just like me earlyer...
[09:46] <Galerien> earlier*
[09:46] <dragontech> when i push the button it turns off then i have to reboot to turn it back on
[09:47] <atokad> dragontech: did you follow all of these steps? http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[09:47] <pat5star> Galerien: no, not yet. It works fine (course I use wicd, not that stupid default network manager) but I'm right in the middle of installing lucid...so I'm been forewarned about the wireless problems. I'll know shortly ;)
[09:47] <Jordan_U> dragontech: Could you pastebin the output of "iwlist scan; dmesg"?
[09:47] <atokad> remove b43 ssb and wl
[09:47] <dragontech> the wireless used to work just fine
[09:47] <Galerien> pat5star: ok, so, see you then :p
[09:48] <pat5star> Galerien: hopefully :)
[09:48] <pat5star> Galerien: thanks :)
[09:48] <atokad> so did mine i had to reinstall all drivers from scratch
[09:48] <Jordan_U> StdDoubt: ctrl+alt+F1 or hold shift during boot and choose recovery mode.
[09:48] <TenhiShadow> people
[09:49] <TenhiShadow> where i can upload screenshot to show it
[09:49] <TenhiShadow> ?
[09:49] <dragontech> how do i remove ssb and wl
[09:49] <llutz> !paste | TenhiShadow
[09:49] <kuato-AR> hello, greetings from Argentina, i need some help with sox and audio sincronization using tvtime, any help ?
[09:49] <TenhiShadow> thanks!
[09:50] <StdDoubt> Jordan_U: thanks
[09:50] <Jordan_U> StdDoubt: You're welcome.
[09:50] <dragontech> http://paste.ubuntu.com/434783/
[09:51] <atokad> its a long process lol you have to re make you wl.ko file from the broadcom drivers then slap it into your modules folder then remove a bunch of mods
[09:51] <atokad> its all in the readme i linked
[09:51] <StdDoubt> does intel 855gm have problems with lucid?
[09:51] <dragontech> ok ill try it and let you know what happens
[09:51] <atokad> good luck friend
[09:52] <ashu> hiiiiiii any f is thr
[09:52] <Jordan_U> dragontech: Does "locate ucode5.fw" give any results?
[09:52] <jande> como faço para entrar em outro canal?
[09:52] <atokad> the statue of liberty is the ugliest french chick ive ever seen
[09:52] <jande> sou do brazil
[09:53] <Jordan_U> !ot | atokad
[09:53] <dragontech> yes
[09:53] <TenhiShadow> i have a problem with fstab, in last ubuntu i`ve no problems with it, it works wery good, but now it dublicate disks http://imagebin.org/97183
[09:53] <atokad> sorry lol
[09:53] <gottto> !pt | jande
[09:53] <Fireking300> I possibly heard ubuntu is going to switch to google chrome?
[09:54] <dragontech> /lib/firmware/b43/ucode5.fw  and  /lib/firmware/b43legacy/ucode5.fw
[09:54] <Jordan_U> Fireking300: Only Netbook Remix, and Chromium (Google Chrome is a closed source build of Chromium)
[09:54] <Fireking300> Oh alright
[09:54] <Fireking300> thank you
[09:55] <jande> #ubuntu-br
[09:55] <Jordan_U> Fireking300: You're welcome.
[09:55] <TenhiShadow> but in fstab file it`s always true http://paste.ubuntu.com/434786/
[09:55] <StdDoubt> I am not able to able to log into X and my graphic card is a intel 855gm
[09:56] <TenhiShadow> #ubuntu-ru
[09:58] <konman> hihi
[09:58] <NubRyan_> hey i was hopeful that someone might be able to help trouble shooting my error with installing the ATI Radeon 9600 Drivers this is the error i got http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/vPm8w3az
[09:58] <EgYPaRaDoX> !pastebin
[09:59] <TenhiShadow> NubRyan_:  install ati catalist
[10:00] <NubRyan_> @tenhi the catalist drivers are there but they dont work because driver isnt installed
[10:01] <TenhiShadow> as i know linux have problems with ati
[10:01] <TenhiShadow> is graphic card new?
[10:01] <NubRyan_> no it was made in 2k3 i think
[10:01] <TenhiShadow> thats why u have problems
[10:02] <TenhiShadow> 2k3 what is that?
[10:02] <Galerien> 2003
[10:02] <NubRyan_> 2003
[10:02] <TenhiShadow> o
[10:02] <TenhiShadow> thanks)
[10:02] <Galerien> k = 1000
[10:02] <TenhiShadow> ok
[10:02] <kraut> moin
[10:02] <adamkex> 210003
[10:02] <adamkex> ;)
[10:02] <konman> I seek to download all of NPTELs video lessons from which mirror i don't care it just has to be up to date. NPTEL uploads directly to youtube. I could go through each of the 250+ videos and request a MP4 in FireFox. is there a better solution?
[10:02] <TenhiShadow> i have bad english
[10:03] <Etere___> ciao
[10:03] <NubRyan_> So even though i have a driver package from ati im hosed?
[10:03] <Etere___> ho un problema con i driver nvidia proprietari e plymouth
[10:03] <Galerien> TenhiShadow: It's international language :D When I was working in a bank, we had 200K $ each days (or stuff like that :D)
[10:03] <TenhiShadow> NubRyan_: search for the driver on linux forums, or if u are very smart write driver чВ
[10:04] <TenhiShadow> Galerien: thanks)
[10:04] <adamkex> !it
[10:04] <adamkex> !it Etere___
[10:05] <adamkex> Etere___: !it
[10:05] <StdDoubt> how to put "i915 modeset" in the booting parameters?
[10:05] <llutz> StdDoubt: edit /etc/default/grub
[10:05] <atokad> just booted back into 10.04 it feels so good
[10:05] <TenhiShadow> Galerien: i`m economist but i didn`t know it
[10:05] <konman> anyone?
[10:05] <TenhiShadow> llutz: gedit
[10:06] <Galerien> TenhiShadow: where are you from?
[10:06] <llutz> StdDoubt: add your parameter to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=...   and run sudo update-grub when finished
[10:06] <TenhiShadow> Galerien: Russia
[10:06] <TenhiShadow> :)
[10:06] <llutz> TenhiShadow: ?
[10:06] <TenhiShadow> llutz: nothing)
[10:07] <diskin> hi all, is there a way to downgrade a program using PPA? I have pidgin 2.7.0 from PPA, and due to a bug it segfaults. How to downgrade to the previous one?
[10:07] <llutz> diskin: you need a repo with an older version, then "sudo aptitude install pidgin=2.x.x"
[10:08] <diskin> llutz, so it depends on PPA owner, to include or to not include the previous version?
[10:08] <llutz> diskin: yes
[10:08] <rod> hi, I've got a question.. there seems to be some problem with the automatic regulation of notebook's fan speed, is it possible to start and let the fan spinning from ubuntu?
[10:10] <TenhiShadow> rod: u mean program?
[10:10] <TenhiShadow> use it and manage your fans?
[10:10] <rod> yes
[10:11] <rod> something like that... just to start the fan on boot for sure and let is spinning
[10:11] <rod> ...let it...
[10:11] <TenhiShadow> rod: search on google)
[10:12] <TenhiShadow> sudo apt-get install xsensors
[10:12] <stekarn> does anyone have any experience in using FUSE and samba with Likewise open?
[10:12] <TenhiShadow> it can help u see situation with fans
[10:13] <rocket16> Is there any Edubuntu Addon- Iso for Ubuntu 10.04?
[10:13] <TenhiShadow> launch software center
[10:13] <rocket16> I mean, like what used to be back during 9.04? Or should we just download it from Software-Centre?
[10:14] <visof> hello
[10:14] <TenhiShadow> and click bookmach education
[10:14] <TenhiShadow> hell
[10:14] <TenhiShadow> o
[10:14] <visof> terminal gnome give me: visof@cniha:~$  when it start , can i change cniha ??
[10:15] <stekarn> thats your hostname
[10:15] <TenhiShadow> username
[10:15] <llutz> !hostname | visof
[10:15] <TenhiShadow> sorry
[10:15] <TenhiShadow> hostname
[10:15] <stekarn> :)
[10:15] <TenhiShadow> Ж)
[10:16] <stekarn> ^^
[10:16] <TenhiShadow> :)
[10:16] <stekarn> TenhiShadow: time to take a break from the computer? ;)
[10:16] <llutz> bot died?
[10:17] <rod> TenhiShadow, thanx
[10:17] <TenhiShadow> i have a problem with fstab, in last ubuntu i`ve no problems with it, it works wery good, but now it dublicate disks http://imagebin.org/97183
[10:17] <rocket16> What is the size of Edubuntu addon from Software Centre?
[10:17] <TenhiShadow>  but in fstab file it`s always true http://paste.ubuntu.com/434786/
[10:17] <rocket16> Is it around 1 GB?
[10:17] <llutz> !hostname | visof
[10:17] <llutz> ah
[10:18] <TenhiShadow> stekarn: to break from computer? what for?
[10:18] <rocket16> Anybody? I need help about edubuntu addon,
[10:18] <TenhiShadow> why?
[10:19] <TenhiShadow>  rocket16: u have limited internet?
[10:19] <rocket16> TeniShadow: Yes, I have a limit for 2 GB
[10:19] <kogepan> can someone tell me how to change my cursor in ubuntu?
[10:20] <TenhiShadow> kogepan: i can
[10:20] <TenhiShadow> rocket16: it`s bad
[10:20] <Jordan_U> rocket16: Many ISPs have local mirrors that they run that don't count toward bandwidth.
[10:21] <rocket16> Jordan_U: Thanks
[10:21] <ktogias-office> hi, I am giving a try to gnome-shell on ubuntu 10.04 . It works and is usable, but I have a visual distortion at the corners of the windows decoration: http://imagebin.org/97185 . Does anyone knows if this is a known bug and if there is any workarround?
[10:21] <Jordan_U> rocket16: You're welcome.
[10:21] <kogepan> TenhiShadow: i changed the cusor but it doesnt work everywhere, for example it looks ok over some windows, but resets to default on the background.
[10:21] <TenhiShadow> kogepan: click right mouse button on clear space on desktop/change image/bookmach theme/change theme/cursor
[10:22] <TenhiShadow> kogepan: i have no ideas about it
[10:22] <TenhiShadow> i sitting near computer 15 hours
[10:22] <TenhiShadow> i will go to eat
[10:23] <mmarc__> hi! I'm wondering how my netbook with lucid happened to get showing the wifi connection to be very bad, while the router is just in 1 meter? Reboot does not help. How can I reset the wifi applet known connections? It is possibly causing a problem itself, router is OK.
[10:24] <TenhiShadow> mmarc__ reinstall wifi driver
[10:24] <Galerien> mmarc__: no, wait
[10:24] <Galerien> try that
[10:24] <Galerien> service network-manager stop
[10:24] <Galerien> rm /var/lib/NetworkManager/networkManager.state
[10:24] <Galerien> service network-manager start
[10:24] <FloodBot1> Galerien: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:25] <mmarc__> TenhiShadow: ugh, what? That's not windows
[10:25] <TenhiShadow> mmarc__: xD
[10:25] <TenhiShadow> yes
[10:25] <Galerien> mmarc__: ... You have to use wifi drivers on ubuntu...
[10:26] <Galerien> mmarc__: It's just that normally it's using some generic ones...
[10:26] <mmarc__> yes, and it should be fine all the time, just as 9.10 was
[10:27] <Galerien> mmarc__: Yes, just try what I posted earlier
[10:28] <Skyraven> hello guys, I'm having a weird issue :) I just joined an Ubuntu 10 to a domain using likewise, have modified /etc/samba/lwiauthd.conf to include winbind use default domain = yes
[10:28] <mmarc__> stupid network manager
[10:28] <Skyraven> but still I can't log in without the domain part
[10:28] <Skyraven> I restarted the services, I even rebooted the server
[10:28] <Skyraven> I browsed the forums..seems that for everyone but me ..it works
[10:28] <Skyraven> can you help ..what might I be missing ?
[10:29] <llutz> mmarc__: try wicd, works better for some people
[10:29] <AhmedBH> Hi
[10:29] <mmarc__> nah, state file removing does not help
[10:29] <Galerien> mmarc__: I did for me, sorry :x
[10:30] <AhmedBH> actually i have downloaded some updates by synaptics for my ATI's graphic card including crystal center and now i cant set my appearce as EXTRA Card doesnt seem to be detected WHY ? :)
[10:30]  * mmarc__ thinking of throwing away the lucid crap and switch back to 9.10
[10:30] <Galerien> mmarc__: +1
[10:30] <AhmedBH> PLease anyone help me out >_<
[10:30] <JPSman> so....... I just installed KmPlot and it hasn't shown up on the applications menu anywhere.
[10:31] <Galerien> AhmedBH: don't promise you anything but : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9218816
[10:31] <Galerien> try that out
[10:31] <diskin> llutz, the old version is here as well: http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pidgin/, but I can not install it, tried different ways to specify version in apt-get install..
[10:31] <AhmedBH> OKay :)
[10:31] <Galerien> AhmedBH: the 2nd part
[10:31] <heike> hi
[10:31] <AhmedBH> Yeah ?
[10:32] <dragontech> i still cant get the wireless to work
[10:32] <llutz> diskin: sudo apt-get install pidgin=2.x.x                where 2.x.x = the version you want
[10:32] <heike> how does one configure the locales with ubuntu? dpkg-reconfigure -p low locales just generates them but i cant configure *which* get generated
[10:33] <tado> i have a problem with my wireless: when downloading high amounts of data (torrents), nm disconnects and doesn't pick up any more, reboot is needed
[10:33] <diskin> llutz, yes, tried that: E: Version '2.6.6' for 'pidgin' was not found - but it i there..
[10:33] <tado> (ps it's not the router, as it works with windows computers)
[10:33] <dragontech> does anyone know how to fix broadcom wireless problems
[10:34] <erUSUL> tado: install linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic
[10:34] <erUSUL> tado: maybe anew driver helps
[10:34] <erUSUL> dragontech: what problems ?
[10:34] <rags> Hi...I need a packet generator for sctp packets...any recommendations?..I tried hping, but not sure if it supports sctp...
[10:34] <tado> erUSUL: should i do it also if using lucid?
[10:34] <erUSUL> tado: why not ?
[10:34] <dragontech> i cant get it to detect any wireless networks
[10:34] <tado> erUSUL: just the karmic part of the package :)
[10:35] <dragontech> i made sure the switch is on
[10:35] <erUSUL> dragontech: how did you enabled it ?
[10:35] <tado> erUSUL: i'll give it a shot
[10:35] <erUSUL> tado: s/karmic/lucid/
[10:35] <konman> tado: does this fix the problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/434822/
[10:35] <dragontech> erUSuL: i removed and reinstalled the drivers
[10:35] <erUSUL> dragontech: did you used System->Admin...->hardware drivers ?
[10:36] <dragontech> erUSUL: yes
[10:36] <erUSUL> dragontech: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[10:36] <llutz> diskin: check available versions with apt-cache policy pidgin and then apply the complete ver-string to apt-get
[10:36] <marekw2143> how to remove nginx from system startup?
[10:36] <AhmedBH> BRB
[10:36] <tado> konman: i'll try that too
[10:36] <erUSUL> marekw2143: sudo update-rc.d -f nginx remove
[10:37] <marekw2143> erUSUL: thanks :)
[10:37] <dragontech> erUSUL: wlan0 no scan results
[10:37] <konman> ok but try the backports first
[10:38] <erUSUL> dragontech: « sudo rfkill list »
[10:39] <dragontech> erUSUL: soft blocked:no    hard blocked:no
[10:39] <jud> whenever i download pdf or some other files i can only save them on the main drive otherwise i get permission denied errors. likewise, if i save them then move them off the main drive, i get permission denied when i try to open it.
[10:39] <erUSUL> dragontech: it seems like your card do not see any network around ...
[10:40] <konman> ok then I'm going to download these 250+ videos from yt manually
[10:40] <llutz> jud: then adjust permission of the other drives
[10:40] <dragontech> i take it the card went bad?
[10:40] <erUSUL> jud: user only have permissions on their home folders....
[10:41] <erUSUL> dragontech: not sure can be bad drivers...
[10:41] <vak> Why does my midnight commander have no colors anymore?..
[10:41] <jud> erUSUL: I thought it was
[10:41] <erUSUL> dragontech: try updating it installing linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[10:41] <dragontech> erUSUL: apt-get?
[10:42] <erUSUL> dragontech: or aptitude; or synpatic. whichever you prefer
[10:42] <vak> e.g., mc doesn't show directories and files in the same color
[10:42] <vak> there were no problem with the previous mc :-/
[10:42] <diskin> llutz, http://pastebin.com/p6DSgkvs - it's not here. But it is listed: http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pidgin/
[10:44] <llutz> diskin: try getting the deb manually and install it with dpkg
[10:44] <diskin> llutz, yes, thats obvious, but then I will have to get all dependencies.. and I'd like to find "correct" way
[10:45] <diskin> (suppose I had to explain what to do to a non-tech user)
[10:45] <llutz> diskin: then you'll have to find a repo with the older version available for your distro
[10:45] <djmoore> Hello.
[10:45] <diskin> llutz, but the fact that the old version is listed on the page, means nothing?
[10:47] <jud> llutz: so, I use chmod?
[10:47] <djmoore> I have a question:  I have a Toshiba A505 laptop, and have managed to install Lucid Lynx and boot into it with changing a few boot parameters.  I took out silent boot and added acpi=off, and it booted up. The wireless will not work still.  Anyone got any ideas?  I am VERY new to all of this.
[10:48] <AhmedBH> BAck
[10:48] <hellyeah> hey
[10:48] <AhmedBH> Thanks a lot for ATI'S graphic card helping :)
[10:48] <hellyeah> anyone knows conversation between rbg and cmyk
[10:48] <AhmedBH> It really works now thanks a million
[10:48] <llutz> diskin: https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid
[10:49] <Galerien> AhmedBH: with my link?
[10:49] <llutz> diskin: only 2.7.0 listed for lucid
[10:49] <diskin> llutz, I'm on Jaunty, but probably the same... thanks
[10:49] <diskin> I will contact PPA admin
[10:49] <llutz> diskin: https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=jaunty
[10:50] <sender> Hi, anyone any ideas on how to a panel with windows on both my monitors in a dual monitor setup? Thanks.
[10:50] <AhmedBH> Galerien: Yes :) And now all i wanna ask is i am not into so many graphic just a new user tho...Should i use the default appearence or Compiz ?
[10:50] <AhmedBH> Galerien: Thank :)
[10:50] <sender> Is it possible to have separate workspaces on my 2 monitors in a dual monitor setup?
[10:51] <AhmedBH> BRB
[10:51] <abli> Hi! I am trying to connect a gigE camera to a computer running ubuntu lucid, and I am having the following problem: when I run "ifdown eth1 && ifup eth1" _after_ the camera is connected and turned on, It works, but if I reconnect the camera (or bring up eth1 with the camera being off) it doesn't.
[10:51] <AhmedBH> Back
[10:52] <djmoore> Can someone help me?
[10:52] <abli> Looking at 'ifconfig' output, it appears that eth1 only gets ipv4 settings ( inet addr, Bcast, Mask) if 'ifup' is run when the camera is connected. Does lucid not set ipv4 settings? How can I force it to do so?
[10:52] <AhmedBH> djmoore: yeah ?
[10:52] <abli> I have an ipv4 address, netmask set in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:52] <djmoore> AhmedBH THanks.
[10:52] <llutz> abli: do you have "allow-hotplug eth1" in your /e/n/interfaces ?
[10:52] <AhmedBH> djmoore: So what is it .
[10:53] <abli> llutz, no. Where do I put that? in the 'iface eth1' section?
[10:53] <xoris> hi if didn't download the language pack during hte installation will i be able to write / read with a deffenerent language other than english
[10:53] <frandieguez> #gnome-bugsquad
[10:53] <llutz> abli: just add a line above the iface eth1...
[10:54] <abli> Ok, I did so but it doesn't appear to have solved it. I'll do some checks
[10:55] <djmoore> AhmedBH: Well, I finally got Lucid Lynx installed on my laptop, but now I'm having a problem getting the wifi to work properly. It seems to detect the networks and connect to mine, but the internet will not work. I have a Toshiba A505. I don't remember the exact model number beyond that right now. It took me a while to boot it because I learned I had to boot it wil APCI=OFF and take out the boot paramter, "silent boot."  Know anything I can try and do?
[10:55] <Galerien> AhmedBH: You should be abble to use compiz
[10:55] <abli> llutz, correction, it appears to work. Thanks!
[10:55] <jarrod_> hallow
[10:56] <jarrod_> any body know application of this photo http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6779/asdtv.png
[10:56] <AhmedBH> Galerien: Thanks
[10:56] <Galerien> Guys, I have a problem with some popup informations bubble : I get a loob of 'power information, laptop battery is charged'
[10:56] <Galerien> AhmedBH: np
[10:57] <erUSUL> jarrod_: the one used to make the diagram? or what? a honeypot ?
[10:57] <AhmedBH> djmoore: Actually Lucid has  some issues with wifi even tho it doesnt even seem to be working on mine, But on Karmic it was just so fine, try connected with open network or change it to WEP or WPA instead or WPA2
[10:57] <AhmedBH> And see if that connected
[10:57] <jarrod_> erUSUL diagram
[10:58] <AhmedBH> djmoore: PLus have you updated ? your system
[10:59] <jarrod_> erUSUL: you know this ?
[10:59] <SirClueless> ska
[10:59] <djmoore> AhmedBH: It's hard to update it without a connection to the internet. (Wireless is my only resource.) You think WPA would be fine? I don't want to go without security at all because I live in a congested area.
[10:59] <LowKey> hello, ubuntu can support i386 arc ?
[10:59] <erUSUL> jarrod_: no i dunno; sorry
[11:00] <jarrod_> erUSUL ok thx mayby others see this http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6779/asdtv.png
[11:01] <viliny__> jarrod_: what are you trying to find out?
[11:01] <jarrod_> viliny__: DIA isn't for me good
[11:01] <AhmedBH> djmoore: Yeah i see, I give you a piece of advice, try to simply update and upgrade your laptop by ethernet (since its not getting connected by a wifi so) and once you are done try to connect it again and if not change up the security or password , Linux is typical you know :) and about crowded area you got with a lot of peoples who might be after your wifi i guess only Linux can break a 502 Bit WPA2 security
[11:01] <jarrod_> viliny__: i kivio alsow
[11:02] <viliny__> jarrod_: ??
[11:02] <jarrod_> viliny__: draf a diagram my net
[11:02] <viliny__> jarrod_: the image you linked earlier looks like it's done in photoshop or similar by hand - not by a program
[11:03] <jarrod_> viliny__: hmm,
[11:03] <djmoore> ahmedBH: I am dualbooting it with Windows 7 at the moment, so I can jump there and download a package and come back and update Lucid with a flash drive. Is there a package I can download for all the updates?
[11:03] <anodesni> Ubuntu does not control my brightness (ATI mobility 4330) please help, my batteries are drained in no time
[11:03] <ChangeOfHeart> #fpc
[11:04] <djmoore> ahmedBH: I will try to get the ethernet to work tonight and see if that helps me get the updates.  What options do I have if the updates don't worry and the password and network name changes don't work?
[11:04] <AhmedBH> djmoore: I guess the only best source is by ethernet or you wont get a COMPLETE update, Your system need to be updated that might help and like you said you can CONNECT to wifi but something maybe blocking it ? so you cant access the internet
[11:04] <djmoore> updates don't work and*
[11:04]  * SirClueless waves 
[11:05]  * anodesni scratches his eyes out
[11:05] <llutz> jarrod_: looks like inkscape or similar. just putting together some cliparts, lines and text
[11:05] <anthony_> hi to everyone
[11:05] <djmoore> ahmedBH: I remember there being at once time a connection to wirelss, but I don't remember exactly what boot parameters I initiated.  I might try to add extra parameters in again and see if that works.
[11:06] <AhmedBH> djmoore: I meant to say that update it and do check it once without password on it when connected and internet is working then you should put a password on your wifi router and then (put that on your Lucid under your SSID name) "DO it by yourself" and see if connects and works
[11:06] <AhmedBH> djmoore: Best of luck with that :)
[11:06] <wesguin> anodesni, did you try Fn keys or adding the panel brighness applett?
[11:06] <djmoore> ahmedBH:  Thanks much.  I will try. Later
[11:06] <AhmedBH> djmoore: Its okay :0
[11:06] <anthony_> i have a problem! how can you make the download of a program fast. because i have a slow connection.
[11:07] <anodesni> wesguin, yes it does not responds
[11:07] <AhmedBH> :)
[11:07] <anthony_> can anyone help me
[11:08] <ns5> Why in 10.04 openssh daemon is always started during system boot?  It is not listed in any runlevels.  Any idea?
[11:08] <jpds> ns5: Have you looked at /etc/init/sshd.conf?
[11:08] <Galerien> anthony_: slow connection ==> slow download... no secret
[11:08] <anthony_> you mean i can't make it fast
[11:09] <anthony_> T_T
[11:09] <ns5> jpds: There is no /etc/init.d/sshd.conf in my system.
[11:10] <llutz> ns5: /etc/init        not /etc/init.d
[11:10] <jpds> ns5: Not init.d; init.
[11:10] <wesguin> anodesni, looks like this is a problem others are having.. are you using proprietary graphics driver?
[11:10] <anodesni> wesguin, yes
[11:10] <ns5> jpds: yes I'm looking at it
[11:10] <wesguin> anodesni, did you try disabling that to see if it works then?
[11:11] <anodesni> wesguin, ok I will, but the opensource driver does not support energy saving, which means that my cpu gets 10 degrees (C) higher
[11:11] <anodesni> at least it doesnt until 2.6.35
[11:12] <ns5> jpds: so?
[11:12] <wesguin> anodesni, what temp?
[11:12] <anodesni> wesguin, 50-52 no load to 65 to 70 under load vs 42-44 no load to 50 - 60 under load
[11:12] <jpds> ns5: The 'start on' line defines when sshd is started.
[11:13] <wesguin> anodesni, well at least that's not near critical
[11:13] <ns5> jpds: What's the reason of the existence of this file?
[11:13] <Dermo> bonjour :)
[11:13] <jpds> ns5: It's an Upstart configuration file?
[11:13] <anodesni> wesguin, no, but I expect that the lifetime will be shorter when the temp is increased
[11:13] <ns5> jpds: Ubuntu ignores the traditional runlevel system?
[11:13] <jpds> ns5: Yes; it uses Upstart.
[11:14] <delonair> quando apro internet non vedo più la barra chiudi iconizza ripristina. infatti per chiudere internet devo usare alt f4 da tastiere. da che dipende
[11:14] <AhmedBH> Hello i got a issue with terminal before it was like 'username@hotname:~$' and now when i hit CTRL+ALT+T and it shows as 'username@hostname:/$'  so why that there's a / now ?
[11:14] <erUSUL> !it | delonair
[11:14] <jpds> ns5: Well, it loads both but Upstart is preferred.
[11:14] <wesguin> anodesni, true, but probably nothing you'd notice
[11:14] <Dermo> we need to speak in english here ? or it's allowed to speak foreign language ?
[11:14] <wesguin> anodesni, still you have to test if it works
[11:14] <anodesni> wesguin, and I prefer my lap top be 10 degrees colder too :P
[11:14] <llutz> AhmedBH: because your $PWD now is / and former was ~
[11:15] <wesguin> anodesni, yeah.. my netbook runs hot.. good in the winter time
[11:15] <jpds> Dermo: This is an English-only channel.
[11:15] <ns5> jpds: so how should I modify the file to tell ubuntu not to start it during system boot?
[11:15] <anodesni> wesguin, I'm removing the driver now
[11:15] <jpds> ns5: Comment out all of the "start on" part.
[11:15] <KittyBoots> Hello, I have never emcripted files before and I have a directory I want to put a password on.  I am sure that there are many options, but what is the optimal method?
[11:15] <wesguin> anodesni, let me know how it goes
[11:15] <anodesni> now restarting X, ibb
[11:15] <AhmedBH> llutz: why i mean when i click it by accessorise>terminal it shows ~$ why with a shortcut as /$
[11:15] <wesguin> 'k
[11:16] <AhmedBH> llutz: i dont like it >_< it wasnt like that before
[11:16] <llutz> AhmedBH: somewhere the start-path is defined different, idk why/where
[11:16] <AhmedBH> llutz: thats stupid
[11:17] <Kilianv> hello, I am (re-re-re-)installing 10.04 on my macbook pro 5,5 and the broadcom STA driver is in a perpetual state of trying to connect, and giving up after ~3 tries (both on wpa protected and open networks) does anyone know how to remedy this?
[11:17] <llutz> AhmedBH: file a bug-report
[11:17] <AhmedBH> llutz: how really
[11:17] <Dermo> ty jpds ;)
[11:18] <anodesnii> wesguin, ok, it's working again, thanks
[11:19] <anodesnii> wesguin, I'll guess I have to live with higher temps for another 6 months
[11:19] <wesguin> anodesnii, maybe they'll update the driver
[11:19] <anodesnii> I hope
[11:20] <wesguin> anodesnii, I'm not sure if it's something a kernel module fix would help or not
[11:20] <wesguin> anodesnii, my little netbook has issues but I use some workarounds
[11:20] <theom3ga> hi there
[11:20] <anodesnii> wesguin, I think amd has messed up their driver once again
[11:21] <theom3ga> how can I batch install a lot of fonts from command line on Ubuntu?
[11:21] <wesguin> anodesnii, could be
[11:21] <SpaceGhostC2C> theom3ga: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:21] <SpaceGhostC2C> theom3ga: that has a lot.
[11:22] <theom3ga> SpaceGhostC2C, I know it has a lot, but I have my own ones
[11:22] <SpaceGhostC2C> theom3ga: you want to install fonts you've downloaded?
[11:22] <Juliana> Hello Ubuntu! I deleted mysql with "apt-get remove mysql-server". But there still are tons of files left. if found "/etc/mysql/" and "/var/lib/mysql/" for example. Why is that? How can I uninstall something?
[11:23] <theom3ga> SpaceGhostC2C, yep, I have about thirty fonts I downloaded some time ago, and I don't want to go one by one pressing Install this font
[11:23] <SpaceGhostC2C> theom3ga: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[11:23] <llutz> Juliana: check for mysql-common mysql-client
[11:23] <theom3ga> guess I'll copy them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ and then run fc-cache
[11:23] <theom3ga> or something like that
[11:23] <Juliana> llutz: ok, apt-get removing these too
[11:24] <SpaceGhostC2C> Juliana: apt-get remove --purge
[11:24] <llutz> Juliana: apt-get purge xxx
[11:24] <Juliana> SpaceGhostC2C, llutz: now apt-get says its not installed. do i have to reinstall it to uninstall it?
[11:25] <llutz> Juliana: "dpkg -l *mysql* | grep ^ii"
[11:25] <wesguin> Juliana, try looking in synaptics package manager File -> History
[11:26] <Juliana> i really would like to do it with apt, if possible.
[11:26] <ns5> jpds: Thanks
[11:27]  * Juliana reinstalls mysql-server :(
[11:27] <wesguin> Juliana, np
[11:27] <Juliana> wesguin: np?
[11:27] <wesguin> no prob
[11:27] <SpaceGhostC2C> s/prob/problem/
[11:28] <wesguin> s/problem/problemo
[11:28] <Lazylegs> #azuredot
[11:28] <Lazylegs> whops
[11:28] <Lazylegs> smtel
[11:30] <nicofs> hello there. I just instelled 10.04 on my netbook (Acer Aspire One 532; Atom N450@1,66GHz; GMA 3150). Everything seems to work except for the touchpad which seems to be stuck at a sensitivity of about 10.000% and constantly clicks left. scaling down the sensitivity in the menu doesn't help. any ideas? thanks.
[11:34] <hellyeah> hey
[11:34] <hellyeah> someone knows how to draw chromacity diagram
[11:34] <wesguin> Juliana, you could look at /var/log/dpkg.log
[11:35] <linxeh> hellyeah: are you sure you have the right name? google has 1 hit for "chromacity diagram"
[11:35] <Juliana> wesguin: have to go for now. somehow i repaired it meanwhile with some wild uninstalling and reinstalling.
[11:35] <wesguin> Juliana, you have to scroll to the bottom for the latest
[11:35] <wesguin> Juliana, okay good :)
[11:35] <linxeh> hellyeah: ignore me, I cant type
[11:35] <Juliana> thank you everybody!
[11:36] <linxeh> hellyeah: I think you mean chromaticity diagram ?
[11:36] <Juliana> #ubuntu is so much more charming then #debian!
[11:36] <hellyeah> linxeh,
[11:37] <hellyeah> yeah
[11:37] <hellyeah> i check the google
[11:37] <hellyeah> but i cannot find basic steps
[11:37] <hellyeah> i cant uderstand something
[11:37] <wesguin> wb anodesni
[11:37] <hellyeah> may be someone knows
[11:37] <linxeh> hellyeah: you probably need to use something like R or matlab or something
[11:38] <Lazy^> Hello, i need to use ftp trough squid. What is the good ftp-client for that ? I'm trying to use FileZilla but no sulotion
[11:38] <uLinux> Linux rules
[11:38] <hellyeah> i eed theorotical knıowledge
[11:38] <linxeh> hellyeah: this isnt the channel for that then
[11:38] <hellyeah> okey
[11:38] <hellyeah> .D
[11:39] <fengfan> hello everyone
[11:39] <discozohan> can someone tell me about memory usage - why my kde widget shows, that 950mb of memory in use, top shows that 1500mb in use
[11:39] <discozohan> i just logged in
[11:39] <nicofs> hi... me again. anyone who can help with a touchpad?
[11:39] <discozohan> how can i get real memory usage ?
[11:40] <fengfan> who can tell me about china WenJiaBao and North Korea
[11:40] <ania_> free -m
[11:40] <erUSUL> !ram | discozohan
[11:40] <fengfan> a new
[11:40] <fengfan> a news
[11:41] <discozohan> Ok, free -m, it shows, that 1600 mb in use ( i just logged in ). Top doesn't show anything, that uses so many memory
[11:42] <discozohan> how can i know, what process use half of my memory ?
[11:42] <discozohan> top shows nothing
[11:42] <discozohan> 2 and 3 % of memory by 2 processes - the max
[11:42] <discozohan> why it shows, that 50% in use ?
[11:43] <Vroomfondle> does that include the cache?
[11:43] <erUSUL> discozohan: top orders by %cpu press "shift + M" to order by memory usage
, in total it will be not more than 15%
[11:43] <wesguin> nicofs, when did your touchpad problem start?
[11:43] <ania_> kernel is loading as much as possible into ram for performance
[11:43] <discozohan> i have 3,2 gb, 1600 in use
[11:44] <erUSUL> discozohan: did you read the bot's link
[11:44] <erUSUL> ?
[11:44] <zakwilson> ATI's latest fglrx release (8.723) appears to be the same version that comes with Ubuntu 10.04. It claims suspend/resume fixes. My laptop still doesn't resume properly. Are there known issues?
[11:44] <discozohan> ah, ok. Thanks
[11:44] <discozohan> it seems to be normal behaviour
[11:46] <discozohan> and one more question - my opened windows ( kde ) lag when i drag them
[11:46] <discozohan> what can it be ?
[11:47] <nicofs> @wesguin: directly after installation. it never worked
[11:48] <akashv> how can i install kivio in ubuntu Lucid? it was in karmic repos, but now disappeared.
[11:49] <wesguin> nicofs, I haven't seen any big problems mentioned with that model and lucid lynx.. there is an issue with scrolling
[11:49] <akashv> !kivio
[11:49] <wesguin> nicofs, did you do a clean install?
[11:50] <LjL> akashv: http://www.koffice.org/kivio/ it seems that they couldn't get it fixed for KDE4 release
[11:50] <nicofs> if it were only scrolling, I'd be happy... I've had this problem with normal ubuntu and the netbook remix
[11:50] <Gryllida> Help! I hit "switching from windows" at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/index.html and it says 404 page not found!
[11:50] <akashv> LjL: ok
[11:51] <DJones> Gryllida: Looks like that webpage is down/missing at the moment, you can get to the previous one using the link https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/switching/index.html
[11:51] <Gryllida> Oh, ok
[11:51] <nicofs> I only used live/persistant USB versions... but that was one hour ago...
[11:51] <wesguin> nicofs, maybe if  you try this it will fix it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467503
[11:52] <wesguin> nicofs, even tho it's for another issue
[11:52] <Kilianv> hello, I am (re-re-re-)installing 10.04 on my macbook pro 5,5 and the broadcom STA driver is in a perpetual state of trying to connect, and giving up after ~3 tries (both on wpa protected and open networks) does anyone know how to remedy this?
[11:53] <wesguin> nicofs, make sure you read through the whole thing first though
[11:53] <nicofs> damn... I never thought of that multi-gesture stuff... why does it have to have that... but I'll try that...
[11:53] <wesguin> nicofs, worth a try
[11:54] <nicofs> is there a page with keyboard shortcuts? obviously I can't use the touchpad...^^
[11:55] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:58] <bart_> quit
[11:58] <bart_> exit
[11:59] <koshari> how do i write a small script that will create a dev if it doesnt exist, ie, " if /dev/rfcomm0 "dontexist" bind rfcomm 0 end if  ????
[12:00] <artypig78> haha
[12:00] <xuanhen> is anyone here?
[12:00] <wesguin> these used to be alot more common I gues
[12:00] <tecky> is there a way to force a upgrade of IRSSI to 0.8.15 from the repo *.14?
[12:00] <tecky> or is the package not prebuilt as of this time?
[12:00] <erUSUL> koshari: if [[ -f /dev/rfcomm0 ]]; then  bind rfcomm 0; fi
[12:00] <erUSUL> koshari: or something like that :)
[12:01] <Gryllida> erUSUL what language is that?
[12:01] <erUSUL> koshari: use -a
[12:01] <erUSUL> Gryllida: shell script; command line
[12:02] <bullgard> Gryllida: Thank you very much for your help with bugzilla. It works now, and have sent a comment there.
[12:02] <wesguin> nicofs, oh I missed that... you could use alt+f2 and run xterm I guess
[12:04] <m0ar> I'm unable to boot my windows install, is the only solution really to use a windows recovery cd? I get the bootmgr is missing-error
[12:04] <bullgard> What to enter in the text field of »Indicator Applet Session« 0.3.6?
[12:04] <erUSUL> m0ar: maybe in ##windows they know of a different method
[12:05] <Gryllida> bullgard, you're welcome :)
[12:05] <m0ar> erUSUL: Since it's about grub, here would be my bet
[12:06] <wesguin> m0ar, you mean you installed ubuntu and now you can't boot windows?
[12:06] <m0ar> wesguin: Yes.
[12:06] <m0ar> Oh darn, I didn't mention that? lol :>
[12:07] <wesguin> m0ar, well the only problem is with the boot loader which is on the MBR
[12:07] <wesguin> m0ar, you can recover it by reinstalling grub2
[12:07] <m0ar> wesguin: I've reinstalled grub 2 times, with 'grub-install /dev/sda'
[12:07] <wesguin> m0ar, you might need to do a bit more.. brb
[12:08] <xuanhen> it's a grub's bug
[12:08] <xuanhen> you can't see windows but can see linux?
[12:09] <m0ar> xuanhen: I've added windows to the menu.lst and I can select it of course, otherwise I wouldn't get the "BOOTMGR is missing"-error :>
[12:09] <xuanhen> you use grub ? why not update your grub to ver2?
[12:09] <wesguin> grub2 can do it automatically
[12:10] <xuanhen> yes
[12:10] <wesguin> with update-grub command
[12:10] <hellyeah> wha tis the diff between grub and grub2
[12:10] <xuanhen> i'm not sure . you can google it
[12:10] <wesguin> if you installed ubuntu 10.04 you have grub2 which works different than earlier version
[12:10] <m0ar> Of course I've got grub2 installed :)
[12:11] <wesguin> m0ar, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[12:11] <hellyeah> 10.04 automatically install
[12:11] <wesguin> read that
[12:11] <xuanhen> try this         sudo apt-get install gurb2
[12:11] <wesguin> xuanhen, he already has grub2
[12:12] <xuanhen> o
[12:12] <xuanhen> some version of grub2 has a bug
[12:12] <xuanhen> .. can't add windows to grub.cfg
[12:12] <wesguin> xuanhen, the info on the url I gave him worked for e
[12:12] <wesguin> me
[12:13] <wesguin> wb nico
[12:13] <m0ar> Guys. I can select windows in my grub, but when I try to start it i get a fatal error: "BOOTMGR is missing"
[12:13] <wesguin> hmm
[12:13] <vinh> hmm
[12:14] <histo> m0ar: what version of windows
[12:14] <xuanhen> he say his grub configure file is menu.lst
[12:14] <m0ar> histo: Win7
[12:14] <xuanhen> that's grub1's config file
[12:14] <wesguin> m0ar, that could be because you tried to use grub2 wrong tho
[12:14] <m0ar> wesguin: Oh?
[12:14] <m0ar> wesguin: Since it didn't work after a clean install ;3
[12:14] <wesguin> yes that's why I gave you that url it shows the difference between the grub versions
[12:15] <wesguin> yeah I am surprised it didn't work after a clean install though
[12:15] <histo> m0ar: k let me check on something
[12:15] <tecky> i never understood why people still cling to windows installs, and able to live with a VM env.
[12:15] <m0ar> I have to run some applications for work and some games :3
[12:16] <xuanhen> me to
[12:16] <xuanhen> dota
[12:16] <sh1ny> grub2 uses grub.cfg not menu.lst
[12:16] <xuanhen> yes
[12:16] <histo> m0ar: what is your drive/partitioning setup right now?
[12:16] <wesguin> use fdisk -l
[12:17] <xuanhen> cfdisk is easy to understand
[12:17] <sh1ny> easiest way would be -> boot win7 cd, issue a repair on the bootmgr, boot a ubuntu 10.04 cd, rescue mode -> fix grub
[12:17] <m0ar> fdisk is fine
[12:17] <sh1ny> works for me
[12:17] <xuanhen> haha
[12:17] <sh1ny> i have arch + ubuntu + win7
[12:17] <wesguin> fdisk -l to just list what is where
[12:17] <histo> m0ar: sometimes windows puts its boot files in a c:\boot folder especially on upgrades.
[12:17] <m0ar> sh1ny: Like I've got a win7 cd? x)
[12:17] <xuanhen> it's a good idea
[12:18] <histo> m0ar: but its kind of difficult to help if you won't answer questions "fdisk is fine"...
[12:18] <sh1ny> m0ar, how did you install it then ?
[12:18] <xuanhen> ....
[12:18] <m0ar> sh1ny: Pirated? ..
[12:18] <wesguin> oooh pirated linux
[12:18] <wesguin> heh
[12:18] <m0ar> Not really ;D
[12:18] <wesguin> you cant pirate linux
[12:19] <m0ar> What did I say then?
[12:19] <m0ar> Yeah, windows.
[12:19] <FailPowah> i have a question about the network connection settings, on the google settings page for ubuntu, they write to use space to seperate the dns server, however the popup/over/tooltip on the dns server in ubuntu 10.04 LTS it says to use comma to seperate the dns servers, which is right?
[12:19] <DASPRiD> m0ar, you can, when it is an enterprise ddition ;)
[12:19] <m0ar> DASPRiD: ah
[12:20] <koshari> erUSUL thanks,
[12:20] <histo> m0ar: Mo0unt the windows partition in windows and see if you have a boot folder in the root of the drive.  You can try copying the files out of there to the root of the drive. Should fix your issues.
[12:20] <m0ar> histo: will do
[12:21] <histo> m0ar: sry meant mount the windows partition in ubuntu
[12:21] <histo> m0ar: but you get the idea.
[12:21] <m0ar> histo: I understood that :D
[12:22] <m0ar> histo: Nope, no /boot
[12:23] <augustl> are there any tools (other than ncurses) for creating terminal GUIs in ubuntu? Something a bit more high level than ncurses would have been nice.
[12:23] <gmcdonald> direct download url for ubuntu server anybody?
[12:24] <augustl> gmcdonald: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[12:24] <histo> m0ar: basically it can't see the boot manager files for some reason. what version of ubuntu?
[12:24] <m0ar> histo: lucid
[12:24] <wesguin> m0ar, the answers in here somewhere: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1312894&page=2
[12:25] <gmcdonald> augustl: genius, thanks!
[12:25] <wesguin> m0ar, that's windows7 right?
[12:25] <histo> m0ar: yeah you have to find where the boot manager is can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[12:25] <augustl> gmcdonald: I wish that page was first for "ubuntu download" :)
[12:26] <histo> m0ar: if its a computer that came with windows 7 from the factory it could be on a seperate smaller partition.
[12:26] <ozerimar> Can anyone help with rescue /restore ?
[12:26] <uLinux> hello
[12:26] <katano> hi
[12:26] <gmcdonald> augustl: yeah, above the stupid fancy graphic button with redirect crap
[12:26] <m0ar> histo: I've reinstalled diffrent windows versions and many linux distributions since then
[12:27] <uLinux> Can I put Applications Places and System menus into a button? I just want to save space in panel
[12:27] <histo> m0ar: okay well if you could pastebin that and the grub.cfg I'll take a look
[12:27] <jussi> ozerimar: just tell your problem :)
[12:28] <wesguin> nicofs1, any luck yet?
[12:28] <ozerimar> can anyone help restore ubuntu installation?
[12:28] <augustl> ozerimar: don't ask to ask, just ask, I guess :)
[12:29] <nicofs1> I'm just starting... needed to go to my other pc to work with the netbook...
[12:29] <wesguin> ah
[12:30] <iefremov> Hi all! Can anyone point to the right IRC channel where I can ask some question about SRU procedure?
[12:30]  * Dr_Willis wonders what 'sru' even is
[12:30] <iefremov> stable release update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[12:31] <arand> iefremov: #ubuntu-motu is liekely a start
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> seems like the wiki page sould suggest an irc channel. :)
[12:32] <uLinux> I want to save space in panel by hiding Applications Places and System menus.. How can I do this?
[12:32] <compaq> man...I am having a hell of time with ubuntu and xubuntu installing on a desktop.  Sometimes, composite graphics don't work, if it does, then mpg videos don't work, and the gmenu in cairo-dock doesn't work, I need some video drivers I guess, for my intel video car
[12:32] <uLinux> but keep a button for them ofc
[12:32] <erUSUL> uLinux: yes; you can there is an alternate single button menu. remove the menu then right click in a panel -> add to panel -> choose the single button menu
[12:32] <uLinux> keeping
[12:33] <Slart> uLinux: can't you put those menus in a "drawer" ?
[12:33] <uLinux> whats a drawer
[12:33] <ozerimar> what does  mount: mounting none on/dev failed mean?
[12:33] <ojii> hi everyone
[12:33] <uLinux> erUSUL  im gonna try that tks
[12:33] <ojii> ever since I installed SCIM I have issues with applications suddenly stopping to accept input until i right-click->input method->SCIM. how can I tell all apps to use SCIM by default?
[12:34] <Slart> uLinux: or just add the "Main menu" applet
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> uLinux:  check ou the other panel applets also. theres also some  in the repos not installed by default that can let you tweak the pannel some
[12:34] <nicofs1> @wesguin: it works! thanks a lot!
[12:34] <nickguin> cool'
[12:34] <nickguin> on my toshiba
[12:34] <nickguin> dang keyboard is too big.. compared to the eee pc
[12:34] <nickguin> heh
[12:35] <ozerimar> anyone know what mount: mounting none on /dev failed no such device means?????
[12:35] <wesguin> nicofs1, this is better
[12:35] <wesguin> I'm getting used to the tiny keyboard
[12:36] <uLinux> erUSUL I remove Menu Bar and added Main Menu :)
[12:36] <uLinux> removed
[12:36] <erUSUL> uLinux: exactly; my system is in spanish... can not be sure of the names
[12:37] <ozerimar> I have a non working ubuntu laptop
[12:38] <Scuttle> is anyone using the Terratec H5 or H7 USB here in ubuntu?
[12:38] <compaq> how do I change the video driver I am using?
[12:38] <erUSUL> compaq: what graphic card ?
[12:38] <compaq> intel
[12:38] <compaq> 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE linux driver
[12:39] <compaq> erUSUL, intel 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE linux driver
[12:39] <erUSUL> compaq: it should use the intel driver.... what is the issue with it ?
[12:40] <compaq> erUSUL, end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[12:40] <vic20gmr> hello, im trying to troubleshoot some sound issue[s] with my 9.10 karmic
[12:40] <ozerimar> How can I get tech support with restoring a ubuntu laptop?
[12:40] <compaq> erUSUL, I can't play mpg videos, it show the video for a half a sec, and then I get a blank screen
[12:40] <wesguin> ozerimar, what happened to it?
[12:41] <Scuttle> dev fd0? that's a floppy drive...
[12:42] <compaq> erUSUL, that is with Xubuntu, but I am not sure if I have desktop effects on or not, before when I installed Ubuntu, desktop effects wouldn't turn on
[12:42] <Dr_Willis>  fd0 = floppy - disable the floppy controller in bios  - if you are having issues with that.
[12:42] <compaq> Scuttle, yeah I know, but it seems to have something to do with the video driver for some reason
[12:42] <compaq> Dr_Willis, I blacklisted the floppy, but the error still came
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> That would be an interesting bug.
[12:43] <ozerimar> it was in a middle of updating to a newer version when all power was lost
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> disable it in bios. thats the 'best' way to disable  the floppy.
[12:43] <wesguin> ozerimar, maybe you could try running fsck on it
[12:44] <erUSUL> compaq: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 <<< that's floppy driver afaics
[12:44] <\\\\\\\\> Dr_Willis: the best way is to remove floppy drive from computer
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> power outage during update.. can be trivial or impossble to recover from. :()
[12:44] <erUSUL> compaq: video playback issues i duno what may be causing it
[12:44] <wesguin> yeah
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> \\\\\\\\:  the controller is still there.  and ive seen them show a fdo device even without a actual floppy
[12:44] <erUSUL> compaq: if you have mplayer we can make a quick test
[12:45] <vic20gmr> i have been having intermitten sound and/or "crackling" sound in games
[12:45] <compaq> erUSUL, ok, let me download an mpg clip
[12:45] <wesguin> vic20gmr, emulators?
[12:45] <vic20gmr> i have disabled onboard sound, and plugged in a pci board
[12:45] <vic20gmr> snes9x gives problems, i briefly heard garbled sound in nexuiz
[12:46] <vic20gmr> assaultcube also
[12:46] <ozerimar> when  i boot it up it displays grub loading then mount: mounting none on /dev failed no such device then 10 seconds later I get a orange screen with my user name I click on my name to log on except that once i identify myself the keyboard becomes non working
[12:46] <wesguin> vic20gmr, yeah I had all those fixed in earlier distro, but now have dosbox problems in 10.04
[12:46] <vic20gmr> ive tried some solutions on net, but so far nothing helps
[12:46] <compaq> erUSUL, I guess its working, but the integrated one with firefox isn't
[12:47] <wesguin> ozerimar, can you ctrl-alt-f1 into a console?
[12:47] <vic20gmr> well i stuck with 9.10, moslty cuz i fig'd more games for it than 10.04 at this time
[12:47] <erUSUL> compaq: totem ? can you try it outside firefox ?
[12:47] <wesguin> ozerimar, that error shouldnt be fatal in itself
[12:48] <wesguin> vic20gmr, well what I mainly noticed was the same fixes just don't work under 10.04
[12:48] <tado> does anyone know if it's possible to add the google search bar present in unity on lucid?
[12:48] <vic20gmr> my first question i gess is shud i remove the pci card [audio card], and go back to onboard audio?, im currently seeing "dummy output" in vol tray icons balloon help
[12:48] <xabr> +i
[12:48] <wesguin> but my zsnes and xstella work fine
[12:49] <vic20gmr> u have any ideas wut i might try under 9.10 karmic?
[12:49] <wesguin> vic20gmr, I'd say yes
[12:49] <wesguin> vic20gmr, you on karmic now then?
[12:49] <vic20gmr> yes
[12:49] <vic20gmr> 9.10
[12:49] <wesguin> well for dosbox set freq's to 44100
[12:49] <ozerimar> yeah but i cant do anything cant get to my desktop.
[12:49] <compaq> I am using cairo-dock, but the gmenu isn't working, when I click it, all I get is "recent documents"
[12:49] <wesguin> then it doesn't have to downmix
[12:49] <vic20gmr> ok, havent installed dosbox [yet! :D]
[12:50] <wesguin> oh
[12:50] <vic20gmr> i have nexuiz as a test app
[12:50] <wesguin> set xznes to 48000
[12:50] <vic20gmr> ok
[12:50] <uLinux> later
[12:50] <nicofs1> cya
[12:50] <ozerimar> is there a way to do a system restore?
[12:50] <vic20gmr> i wonder if im having apps [games] trying to directly access alsa instead of pulse?
[12:51] <vic20gmr> i read that is/was common? prob for many using 9.10 kk
[12:51] <compaq> how do I zoom out the desktop?
[12:51] <wesguin> ozerimar, I guess you can reinstall without format.. I never tried that myself
[12:51] <wesguin> ozerimar, I'd try to save any important data first to a sd card or something
[12:52] <abid> Is anyone here familiar with the option in Virtualbox "-biossystemtimeoffset"
[12:52] <wesguin> vic: I tried to set everything to pulse.. earlier OS I removed pulse altogether and installed alsa
[12:52] <ozerimar> dont know how ? only able to login in the terminal screen
[12:53] <wesguin> ozerimar, can you do a usb install?
[12:53] <DonScott> ozerimar: did that work ?
[12:53] <vic20gmr> where might i find instructions on how to go away from pulse, and use only alsa?
[12:53] <ozerimar> sorry did what work?
[12:54] <wesguin> vic: I found it on google
[12:54] <DonScott> getting rid of pulsse audio and using just alsa
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[12:54] <FloodBot4> wjtm1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:54]  * vic20gmr is blushing
[12:54] <nikolam> ??
[12:54] <elnur> lol
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[12:54] <HinHin> wtf?
[12:54] <pinoyskull> damn
[12:54] <histo> ozerimar: can you boot to recovery mode and set it to do an fsck?
[12:54] <Termana> wow
[12:54] <ozerimar> i have tried rescue with original disc but no luck
[12:54] <ayan> ouch.
[12:54] <nikolam> what is going on?
[12:54] <pecisk> damn flooders
[12:54] <nikolam> ok
[12:54] <DonaldShimoda> boot atacks
[12:54] <iDope> that was just a botnet flood attack
[12:54] <pinoyskull> damn bot
[12:54] <elnur> spam
[12:55] <jussi> !troll
[12:55] <kermit> they just hit #bash 10 minutse ago
[12:55] <DonaldShimoda> i cant beleive that irc dont have tools to stop this, cḿon
[12:55] <ozerimar> i have not tried fsck
[12:55] <ozerimar> what is fsck?
[12:55] <pinoyskull> there should be one
[12:55] <rocket16> God! Ban the flooders!
[12:55] <kermit> DonaldShimoda: it does, and they did, +q~a
[12:55] <dubiago> well, wouldn't making this channel +R help?
[12:55] <iDope> ozerimar: its like chkdisk for linux
[12:55] <histo> !fsck | ozerimar
[12:55] <pecisk> DonaldShimoda, yes, there are tools, but they will cause problems for common crowd to get here
[12:55] <kermit> dubiago: they did that too (though thats mostly redundant to +q~a)
[12:55] <dubiago> ahhh
[12:55] <kermit> dubiago: er, did +r.. +q~a is the old +R
[12:56] <dubiago> yea
[12:57] <wesguin> ozerimar, if you can get to console you might be able to set fsck to run during next boot
[12:57] <dubiago> heh
[12:57]  * dubiago sighs
[12:58] <keenken> hey
[12:58] <ozerimar> i will try  do i need the original disc? or just do it at the prompt??
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[12:59] <histo> ozerimar: You are trying to fix your ubuntu correct?
[12:59] <pepee> oops, here comes goatse security... or 4chan.. or.. who knows
[13:00] <kermit> is there no way to boot into text mode anymore?  all i see is framebuffer mode options in current bootprompt howtos.
[13:00] <sonneveld> does all this botnet crap turn up in irclogs.ubuntu.com ?
[13:00] <ozerimar> yes without anyluck   I am a new user
[13:00] <wesguin> kermit, I haven't seen any good ways to do it
[13:00] <ozerimar>  right now i am at the recovery menu
[13:00] <kermit> wesguin: when did text mode  go away?
[13:00] <histo> ozerimar: your at a root prompt in recovery mode correct?
[13:00] <wesguin> kermit, I dunno I was outta the loop for quite awhile
[13:01] <ozerimar> blue screen
[13:01] <histo> ozerimar: ?
[13:01] <histo> ozerimar: what version of ubuntu is this?
[13:01] <wesguin> ozerimar, I'm not familiar with that at all
[13:01] <ozerimar>  recovery menu
[13:01] <histo> ozerimar: a windows recovery menu?
[13:01] <ozerimar> 9.10 o
[13:01] <ozerimar> yes
[13:01] <ozerimar> windows
[13:01] <wesguin> ozerimar, that won't work
[13:01] <histo> ozerimar: okay well kind of hard to fix ubuntu from the windows recovery mode.
[13:02] <ozerimar> i got  resume/clean/dpkg/grub/netroot/root    choices
[13:02] <wesguin> oh that's not windows
[13:02] <LowKey> friends, can i install ubuntu 9.04 on i386 machine?
[13:02] <histo> ozerimar: how did you get to this screen?
[13:02] <ozerimar> power off with esc  key
[13:03] <compaq> I can't seem to zoom out my desktop, anyone know how.  Also, how do you know if you are running compiz or not?
[13:03] <histo> ozerimar: okay can you select root
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> LowKey:  I think it may need 486+
[13:03] <ozerimar> ok im there
[13:03] <histo> ozerimar: now your at a prompt?
[13:03] <ozerimar> yes
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> LowKey:  on that old a machine you may want to use some ultra-light disrtos.
[13:03] <vic20gmr> wesguin, im going to reboot to remove pci card, b bak wen dun
[13:03] <LowKey> Dr_Willis: such as?
[13:03] <histo> ozerimar: shutdown -F -r now
[13:03] <histo> ozerimar: type that in and hit enter
[13:03] <soreau> compaq: For the latter, ps ax|grep compiz|grep -v grep
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> LowKey:  no idea. I tossed any box's that old.
[13:04] <LowKey> ok
[13:04] <soreau> compaq: If there is any output from that command, it is running
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> LowKey:  thers always MINIX :)
[13:04] <wesguin> vic20gmr, 'k
[13:04] <ozerimar> type in shutdown -F -r  ??
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> but minix is not linux
[13:04] <histo> ozerimar: yes at the root prompt
[13:04] <compaq> soreau, thanks
[13:04] <Seito> hi! can anyone help me with a question? how to get the size of cd in cdrom using console?
[13:04] <sh1ny> LowKey, depends on what you want to do with that box
[13:04] <vic20gmr> wesguin, i removed pulseausio using pkg manager, and reinstalled alsa base, and alsa utils
[13:04] <histo> ozerimar: it should then reboot and after it boots back in ubuntu it will do a filesystem check
[13:04] <vic20gmr> do u think that will do it?
[13:04] <histo> ozerimar: be back in a few minutes.
[13:05] <soreau> compaq: Try Super+Scroll to zoom
[13:05] <wesguin> vic20gmr, I don't remember if that's all of it
[13:05] <vic20gmr> ok, ill b bak in a cuple mins
[13:05] <wesguin> k
[13:05] <compaq> soreau, nothing happens, although compiz is running
[13:05] <augustl> how is the ubuntu server installer made? Just shellscripts and ncurses, or something else?
[13:05] <wesguin> ozerimar, that command will reboot and force fsck
[13:06] <soreau> compaq: Cab you explain what you mean by zoom is stuck?
[13:06] <soreau> Can*
[13:06] <ozerimar> ok
[13:06] <ozerimar> im at GNU Grub Ver 1.97 beta screen with recovery options
[13:06] <wesguin> ozerimar, just to be sure you could type touch /forcefsck
[13:06] <compaq> soreau, well, I just don't know how to get it to zoom out, so all the windows are small and arranged up, and I can click to bring them back with the one I click on top
[13:07] <wesguin> ozerimar, wait for histo to come back
[13:07] <ozerimar> will can wait
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> compaq:  thats not the zoom plugin. thats some other compiz plugin. :)  i forget what its called
[13:07] <Mintz> hello all
[13:08] <compaq> soreau, super is the windows button between alt and ctrl right?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> super IS the windows key - yes compaq
[13:08] <compaq> Dr_Willis, scale, but I can't get the going either
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> compaq:  how about 'expo'
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> expo - super-e
[13:09] <compaq> Dr_Willis, not sure what you mean?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> compaq:  expo shrinks windows down and shows them all in a displayt you click on to change windows
[13:09] <soreau> compaq: Ah, do you have the scale plugin in ccsm?
[13:09] <soreau> Dr_Willis: He is trying to get scale to work
[13:10] <compaq> Dr_Willis, yeah, thats what I want, let me check it, I was trying scale and zoom, but I guess expo is what I needed
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> soreau:  but he just described what he wanted to do as what 'expo' does.. and
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:10]  * Dr_Willis dosent like expo. it dont look very good on 2+ monitor setups
[13:10] <compaq> Dr_Willis, where is this expo?
[13:10] <soreau> Dr_Willis: I am pretty sure I just figured it out
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> compaq:  its a plugin in the csm tool.
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> It uses the scale plugin i imagine also.
[13:10] <soreau> compaq: Yes, super is what you think it is
[13:11] <rapha> Hi all!
[13:11] <soreau> Dr_Willis: No, it does not
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> super-w - seems to do a similer task as expo.
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> but not quite the same
[13:11] <rapha> I just told a friend over the telephone to let Ubuntu resize the Windows partition ands install itself alongside windows, and it didnt ask for HOW MUCH of the win part to resize - WTF?
[13:11] <compaq> super doesn't work for me
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> Compiz REALLY needs a tool to print out all 'in use shortcuts' for a given setup
[13:12] <histo> rapha: you should get a little slider to resize if I remember correctly.
[13:12] <compaq> Dr_Willis, I cant find expo, I am using Xubuntu, but I remember seeing it when I tried Ubuntu
[13:12] <histo> ozerimar: any luck?
[13:12] <soreau> compaq: Try selecting Extra in sys>prefs>appearance>visual effect, or install ccsm and make sure scale is enable
[13:12] <tn90_> how long does it take until the new kernel 2.6.34 is in the kernel ppa?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> compaq:   No idea on xubuntu.. if you are trying to use compiz on xubuntu.. you may as well just use ubuntu i figure.
[13:12] <soreau> compaq: I dont think you want super+scroll (it is a different kind of zoom)
[13:13] <ozerimar> i am at the recovery GNU GRUB screen
[13:13] <rapha> histo: thats what i remembered as well, but alas, not so with 10.04 anymore?!
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> compaq:  theres proberly some compiz packages you are missing
[13:13] <ozerimar> several different ver of kernal
[13:13] <compaq> soreau, I don't have the extra option, I am using Xubuntu
[13:13] <dailystruggle> mozilla firefox error console has mozilla-pfs.ubuntu.com CVE-2009-3555
[13:13] <Pici> tn90_: Probably a better question for the folks that run the ppa.  It may be prudent to ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[13:13] <soreau> compaq: Well in xfce, just look in ccsm and make sure Scale is enabled then use it by moving your mouse to the upper right
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> compaq:  you did set up xubuntu to use the compiz winmdow manager?  Without that - you gont get any effects at all.
[13:14] <ozerimar> have not ttried fsck
[13:14] <soreau> Dr_Willis: I already had him check ps ax
[13:14] <histo> rapha: hrm.. haven't used windows in so long I have no idea perhaps someone else may know
[13:14] <histo> ozerimar: okay why not?
[13:15] <compaq> Dr_Willis, yeah, that was my first question, to check if it was running, but soreau comfirmed it with me, when I do a ps -ax |grep compiz, it shows up
[13:15] <histo> ozerimar: did you enter that command?
[13:15] <ozerimar> i dont know how to excute a FSCK
[13:15] <james1892> Hello, I'm having a problem finding my php-cli file where should it be ? im on ubuntu 8.04
[13:15] <wesguin> histo, is there an -F option on shutdown?
[13:15] <rapha> histo: well doesnt matter now i guess ... the resize is ongoing
[13:15] <LjL> james1892: just use "php", that's the name of the interpreter that the "php5-cli" package installs
[13:15] <sh1ny> james1892, it' just php
[13:15] <histo> wesguin: yes
[13:16] <ozerimar> I TYPE IN FSCK it displays unknown command
[13:16] <histo> ozerimar: did you enter that shutdown command I gave you before?
[13:16] <james1892> cheers where is the "just php"
[13:16] <compaq> Dr_Willis, you were right I think, I just install compiz-plugins-extra
[13:16] <LjL> !fsck | ozerimar
[13:16] <LjL> james1892: in /usr/bin
[13:16] <ozerimar> yes  then was taken to a grub or recovery kernal screen
[13:16] <wesguin> hmm
[13:17] <histo> ozerimar: okay then select your normal kernel and boot
[13:17] <james1892> LjL, its not for me :(
[13:17] <histo> ozerimar: most likely the latest one
[13:17] <LjL> james1892: is the package "php5-cli" installed at all?
[13:17] <compaq> you know, I enabled wobbly windows, but it doesn't work
[13:17] <ozerimar> the very top one?  or recovery mode ?
[13:17] <james1892> Im faily sure it is, what is the command to check?
[13:17] <rapha> ~/window 5
[13:18] <LjL> james1892: apt-cache policy php5-cli
[13:18] <compaq> no man...this isn't working for me
[13:18] <ozerimar> i have 10 choices
[13:18] <wesguin> ozerimar, the top one
[13:18] <histo> ozerimar: the highest version number of kernel is most likely your default
[13:18] <ozerimar> k
[13:18] <histo> ozerimar: also should be the top one
[13:19] <dailystruggle> anyone know if CVE-2009-3555 has a fix for *buntu
[13:19] <ozerimar> ok it says mount:mounting none on dev failed  no such device
[13:19] <james1892> Installed: (none) - ha probably y. ok so apt-get install php5-cli should sort it?
[13:19] <soreau> compaq: Well in xfce, just look in ccsm and make sure Scale is enabled then use it by moving your mouse to the upper right of your screen
[13:19] <LjL> james1892: i think so
[13:19] <ozerimar> now im at a orange log screen with my name
[13:19] <histo> ozerimar: when did all this start?
[13:19] <histo> ozerimar: okay are you able to login?
[13:19] <ozerimar> troubles or????
[13:20] <Galerien> lol, bot fighting together :D
[13:20] <wesguin> ozerimar, he lost power during update
[13:20] <wesguin> or uh
[13:20] <histo> ozerimar: yes the troubles and what specifically is the trouble?
[13:20] <wesguin> histo i mean
[13:20] <ozerimar> when i select my name mouse and keyboard become non responsive
[13:20] <compaq> soreau, I did that but it doesn't work.  There is something wrong here cause even the wobbly windows isn't working.  I think I need to use the intel video driver rather than the generic
[13:20] <wesguin> ozerimar, he means what caused the problem
[13:20] <compaq> How do I switch or select the video driver to use?
[13:20] <ozerimar> then it just blanks out and repeats with a new login screen
[13:20] <unimatrix9> how is the release cycle with the first updates of ubuntu 10.04 ?
[13:21] <histo> compaq: what type of video card?
[13:21] <compaq> histo, intel
[13:21] <histo> ozerimar: okay and you lost power during an update?
[13:21] <jud> stuck on enabling permissions for an external drive.
[13:21] <ozerimar> power outage during a upgrade to newer version of ubuntu
[13:21] <compaq> histo, 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset
[13:21] <histo> ozerimar: ugh...
[13:21] <tecky> unimatrix9: are you inquiring as to the time its going to be supported? 10.04 is a LTS (LONG TERM SUPPORT) Release
[13:21] <ozerimar> is it toast??
[13:21] <wesguin> I think he's screwed
[13:22] <unimatrix9> no, when the updates are included
[13:22] <histo> ozerimar: was it downloading packages still or was it installing them?
[13:22] <unimatrix9> for example when 10.04.1 comes out?
[13:22] <ozerimar> maybe both don't really know
[13:22] <soreau> compaq: hm. Can you show the output of ps ax|egrep "compiz|xfwm"|grep -v grep ?
[13:22] <unimatrix9> in windows terms service pack 1
[13:22] <unimatrix9> :P
[13:22] <compaq> I'm thinking of install karmic instead, and then upgrading
[13:22] <ozerimar> but i did have backups
[13:22] <histo> ozerimar: of your /home?
[13:23] <ozerimar> i think yes
[13:23] <compaq> xfwm4 --display :0.0 --sm-client-id 2a2e5fe1c-9c60-42bf-91dd-7f966bdce1d5
[13:23] <rsk> unimatrix there's no service packs. just updates
[13:23] <dailystruggle> an I asking this in the wrong room
[13:23] <ozerimar> how do i try fsck?
[13:23] <histo> ozerimar: what type of internet do you have wifi wired ?
[13:23] <ozerimar> wifi
[13:23] <histo> ozerimar: fsck is not going to help
[13:23] <unimatrix9> ozerimar, stick in a life cd and see what you can rescue
[13:23] <unimatrix9> to an usb drive or so
[13:24] <soreau> compaq: That shows you do not have compiz running. Try compiz --replace from your Alt+F2 run dialog
[13:24] <ozerimar> i tried that
[13:24] <unimatrix9> then try to rescue your partition
[13:24] <unimatrix9> nad?
[13:24] <histo> ozerimar: you can try hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and getting to a console.
[13:24] <unimatrix9> and?
[13:24] <sh1ny> dailystruggle, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-860-1
[13:24] <ozerimar> let me try
[13:24] <ozerimar> ok im at the console
[13:24] <histo> ozerimar: connecting to the net and trying the upgrade from there. see if it will atleast complete. The other option is to back up /home/ozerimar and then reinstall, or move /home to a seperate partition.
[13:24] <james1892> LjL: cheer for the help but still cant find it any ideas?
[13:25] <sh1ny> dailystruggle, it was the first link in google when i searched for "ubuntu CVE-2009-3555" :P
[13:25] <james1892> is there a command to search for files?
[13:25] <ozerimar> im logged in at the console now
[13:25] <compaq> soreau, hey, you are cool, how did you notice it isn't running from that out put, anyway, when I did replace, it went back to fallback, and this was issue: Blacklisted PCI ID 8086:2562 detected
[13:25] <histo> ozerimar: okay does iwconfig show you connected to the wireless?
[13:25] <dailystruggle> I have the warning in my browser
[13:25] <unimatrix9> ozerimar why not try to fix the disk first : sudo touch /forcefsck
[13:25] <dailystruggle> using ff in 10.4
[13:25] <unimatrix9> then reboot
[13:25] <histo> unimatrix9: he did
[13:25] <unimatrix9> oh, i am to late then
[13:25] <unimatrix9> hehe
[13:26] <unimatrix9> sorry
[13:26] <soreau> compaq: Oh yes that is because the intel driver isnt too great and neither is your gpu chipset
[13:26] <unimatrix9> keep up the good work
[13:26] <histo> unimatrix9: atleast I thought he did I left for a bit. I told him to boot to recovery mode and shutdown -F r now
[13:26] <james1892> cant find my (php-cli) php file any ideas?
[13:26] <compaq> soreau, hmm, ok, but it is 128 mb video card
[13:26] <unimatrix9> ah
[13:26] <ozerimar> not connected
[13:26] <compaq> soreau, how to I try another driver for my video card?
[13:26] <mdel> james1892: you need to install it
[13:27] <histo> ozerimar: is it a wep wpa2 etc... network?
[13:27] <dailystruggle> james look at synaptic package manager and see if it is installed
[13:27] <james1892> its installed
[13:27] <mdel> sudo apt-get install php-cli
[13:27] <ozerimar> wep
[13:27] <james1892> I think i found it, but its made of many @@@@@ is this normal?
[13:27] <dailystruggle> file search php-cli
[13:28] <unimatrix9> ozerimar , not connected?
[13:28] <rosco_y> I'd like to install OpenSuse in a virtual machine, does anyone have any recommendations for virtual machine software?
[13:28] <mdel> rosco_y: virtualbox
[13:28] <voxio> I have 10.04 and I'm using a laptop.. how do I set my monitor to be the default screen?
[13:28] <sh1ny> dailystruggle, that vulnerabilty is for the servers, not for your browser ?
[13:28] <unimatrix9> virtual bpx
[13:28] <Galerien> rosco_y: virtualbox is easy
[13:28] <dailystruggle> sun vb
[13:28] <histo> ozerimar: take note of which interface is your wifi like wlan0 or eth(x) and iwconfig (interface) essid (name of net) channel (channel number) key (wep key)
[13:28] <ozerimar> i tried to do fsck but get a permission denied
[13:28] <voxio> There doesn't seem to be an option in the monitors config section
[13:28] <histo> ozerimar: use sudo
[13:28] <rosco_y> mdel, Galerien--thank you very much, I appreciate that!
[13:28] <unimatrix9> ozerimar , did you use sudo?
[13:28] <unimatrix9> ozerimar why not try to fix the disk first : sudo touch /forcefsck
[13:28] <Galerien> rosco_y: no problem
[13:28] <konman> hi! I want to get a SATA II or SATA III RAID controller for under 100 pounds ... can you recommend one that works well under ubuntu?
[13:29]  * histo is so confused
[13:29] <unimatrix9> hehe repeating meself
[13:29] <compaq> I am gonna do some cooking, be back later, thanks for your help guys
[13:29] <rosco_y> mdel, Galerien, does virtualbox support 64 bits?
[13:29] <Galerien> rosco_y: I guess....
[13:29] <histo> unimatrix9: I don't think an fsck has been performed
[13:29] <ozerimar> ok fsck went thru recovering journal
[13:29] <histo> rosco_y: yes
[13:29] <unimatrix9> ah
[13:29] <ozerimar> now what?
[13:29] <rosco_y> histo: Thank you :)
[13:29] <unimatrix9> now boot
[13:29] <unimatrix9> and pray
[13:30] <wesguin> I guess fsck must have been running all that time?
[13:30] <dailystruggle> anyone know why I get the CVE-2009-3555 warning using 10.4
[13:30] <konman> 10.04
[13:30] <histo> wesguin: no it never ran
[13:31] <dailystruggle> yes ff 3.3
[13:31] <wesguin> he just said it did
[13:31] <vak> My mc shows directories and files in the same color -- why?..
[13:31] <unimatrix9> ozerimar , does it boot normal now?
[13:32] <ozerimar> trying it now
[13:32] <unimatrix9> ok
[13:32] <dailystruggle> edit 3.6.3
[13:32] <unimatrix9> does not seem to be a very fast machine.. .:)
[13:32] <ozerimar> i rebooted and im at a console looking screen
[13:32] <wesguin> oh the humanity
[13:32] <xabrx> exit
[13:32] <thul> hmm, ubuntu isn't too happy about being installed from a SD-card :/
[13:32] <unimatrix9> ozerimar , normally you would have booted to x? Gnome?
[13:33] <ozerimar> gnome
[13:33] <sh1ny> dailystruggle, what site are you opening ?
[13:33] <unimatrix9> okey, try to type startx and hit enter
[13:33] <wesguin> ozerimar, you didn't get that error this time tho?
[13:33] <sh1ny> dailystruggle, that CVE you're looking at is for apache2, not for firefox
[13:33] <unimatrix9> esguin, what error was it?
[13:33] <unimatrix9> w
[13:34] <xabrx> P
[13:34] <wesguin> something about mounting non to /dev failed
[13:34] <wesguin> none
[13:34] <ozerimar> it is doing the same thing orange screen with my name when i select my name mouse and keyboard stop working
[13:34] <dailystruggle> several
[13:34] <ozerimar> wtf?
[13:34] <wesguin> yeah his X is hosed
[13:35] <wesguin> ozerimar, it must have been installing packages when you lost power
[13:35] <ozerimar> what does that mean? good or bad?
[13:35] <unimatrix9> ozerimar , and you say a life cd does not run ?
[13:35] <Ileden> Hi! My system has become REALLY sluggish after upgrade to lucid. Everything was really nice and smooth before (in 9.04). I may be affected by the bug #568988, but I'm not sure - at least the provided PPA fix doesn't help at all. How can I diagnose the issue further?
[13:35] <dailystruggle> it stays in the top of the error console mozilla-pfs.ubuntu.com : potentially vulnerable to CVE-2009-3555
[13:35] <Mintz> can I do a ghost 14 restore into virtualbox...?
[13:35] <ozerimar> what is a life cd??
[13:35] <Mintz> Does anyone know
[13:36] <wesguin> ozerimar, it could still be recoverable,  but it's not nearly as easy as if you could get into X
[13:36] <ozerimar> how to get into x?
[13:36] <wesguin> ozerimar,  a live cd means you can run linux from cd or usb stick
[13:36] <ozerimar> yes i have a live cd
[13:36] <unimatrix9> i would suggest, boot with the ubuntu install cdrom, ( live cd ) , rescue your files to an usb memory stick, and reinstall your computer with ubuntu cdrom from scratch
[13:36] <unimatrix9> does that make sense?
[13:36] <wesguin> ozerimar, I don't think you can get into X because of missing files
[13:37] <ozerimar> will live cd help?
[13:37] <unimatrix9> read the above idea
[13:37] <unimatrix9> or, give it an other try setup x again
[13:37] <wesguin> yes a either burn ubuntu iso to cd or usb stick and boot from that
[13:37] <unimatrix9> some one know the command?
[13:37] <wesguin> ozerimar, were you trying to upgrade to 10.04?
[13:38] <ozerimar> what do u recommend a clean install?
[13:38] <ozerimar> yes
[13:38] <unimatrix9> losing power is really bad
[13:38] <ozerimar> 10.04
[13:38] <wesguin> yeah setting up X might work
[13:38] <unimatrix9> yes clean install
[13:38] <Pici> !who
[13:38] <wesguin> but I would recommend clean install
[13:38] <Charbel> hi how can i use video call in pidgin account yahoo ???
[13:38] <wesguin> ozerimar, where did you backup to before?
[13:38] <sh1ny> dailystruggle, so maybe the warning is about the server, not your firefox ?!?!
[13:38] <unimatrix9> first backup your data ( if important )
[13:38] <ozerimar> not on any media
[13:39] <ozerimar> just hdd
[13:39] <wesguin> oh
[13:39] <wesguin> ozerimar, well if you do have anything important you should try to get it saved to something first
[13:39] <ozerimar> email, pictures, etc
[13:39] <wesguin> ozerimar, a clean install of 10.04 is better anyway
[13:40] <histo> ozerimar: you need to back up your /home/(username) folder
[13:40] <ozerimar> there is no hope?
[13:40] <wesguin> ozerimar, yeah just copy your home/ozeimar or whatever should cover ost of it
[13:40] <unimatrix9> other idea : boot with ubuntu life cd, risize the drive ( partition ), copy important files to the second partition, install ubuntu clean on first partition
[13:40] <vic20gmr> wesguin, i tried the reinstall of pulse, and alsa now nexuiz poops out after a few seconds on single player "match"
[13:40] <unimatrix9> find files on the second ( that you copy copy )
[13:41] <Galerien> ozerimar: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install »
[13:41] <unimatrix9> but better would be to back up from hdd to usb or so
[13:41] <Galerien> That will help you reinstall
[13:41] <unimatrix9> ah
[13:41] <wesguin> vic20gmr, there was a tutorial on google on how to do it.. maybe  you miissed something is all
[13:41] <unimatrix9> Galerien the wizzard
[13:41] <unimatrix9> :P
[13:41] <ozerimar> maybe canonical support might be able to help?
[13:41] <Charbel> hi how can i use video call in pidgin account yahoo ???
[13:41] <wesguin> vic20gmr, oh you tried to reinstall pulse? why?
[13:41] <tado> has anyone tried to put the google search bar present in unity on a "normal" ubuntu lucid? is it possible?
[13:42] <unimatrix9> ozerimar , do you have inportant files on the drive? or settings or so?
[13:42] <wesguin> vic: you can retrace your steps by looking in synaptic manager File -> History and undo anything you did
[13:42] <ozerimar> yes
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> tado:  is that unity feature even working yet? it wasent the other day
[13:42] <vic20gmr> wesguin, u reminded me to ask something; i have the impresion that sound has always been a problem, wut do think?
[13:42] <unimatrix9> ah
[13:42] <unimatrix9> ozerimar , and they are huge ? ( big files ? )
[13:43] <ozerimar> not sure
[13:43] <vic20gmr> o i reinstalled pulse, cuz nexuiz pooped before menu even appeared after i removed it
[13:43] <wesguin> vic20gmr, well only for the game emulators
[13:43] <tado> Dr_Willis: have to admit i don't know it. i just read about it, but haven't actually tried unity myself. if it's still a work in progress, i'll just waut
[13:43] <vic20gmr> wesguin, o i reinstalled pulse, cuz nexuiz pooped before menu even appeared after i removed it
[13:43] <ozerimar> i can't find them on the console screen
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> tado:  yep - not worth messing with at this time.
[13:43] <vic20gmr> well only for games as well appearantly
[13:43] <wesguin> vic20gmr, oic so you're back to where you started then
[13:43] <tado> Dr_Willis: cool, thanks for the info :)
[13:44] <wesguin> vic20gmr, well right now my zsnes and xstella work fine under pulse.. I only have problems with dosbox
[13:44] <vic20gmr> i gess so, it went from crap to worse after i removed pulse, so i reinstated it, if for no other reason than troubleshooting purposes
[13:44] <wesguin> vic20gmr, but my other laptop is fine in dosbox too
[13:44] <unimatrix9> ozerimar , be a little clearer, are these files you need or settings?
[13:45] <unimatrix9> and dont you have an usb memory stick of 4 Gig or bigger?
[13:45] <vic20gmr> do u use nexuiz, or assaultcube, or other non emu games?
[13:45] <wesguin> vic20gmr, biggest problem is the cpu is overloaded I think
[13:45] <ozerimar> nothing important really
[13:45] <unimatrix9> or external usb drive?
[13:45] <unimatrix9> oh
[13:45] <unimatrix9> :P
[13:45] <unimatrix9> so reinstall
[13:45] <unimatrix9> with the iso , ubuntu life cd install cdrom
[13:45] <histo> ozerimar: the other option is to move home to its own partition then you don't have to back it up. you can just install fresh and tell it your /home is on the other parition.
[13:45] <vic20gmr> wesguin, if the cpu overload sugg is correct, wudnt i see really low framerates as well?
[13:45] <wesguin> I am glad I installed 10.04 even with some issues I still prefer it
[13:45] <unimatrix9> ?
[13:46] <tjingboem> ubuntu takes a long time to find /home and the terminal starts always in root. How can i solve this?
[13:46] <ozerimar> how do i do that exactly?
[13:46] <wesguin> vic20gmr, well you may not notice that... just look at your load
[13:46] <h2g2bob> tjingboem: Can you access /home at all?
[13:46] <unimatrix9> ozerimar , how did you install ubuntu in the first place?
[13:47] <ozerimar> with a  cd
[13:47] <unimatrix9> hmm
[13:47] <histo> ozerimar: yes
[13:47] <ozerimar> a cd from canonical
[13:47] <unimatrix9> ozerimar , are you looking at the computer right now?
[13:47] <histo> ozerimar: you can download the iso from ubuntu.com and burn it yourself.
[13:47] <ozerimar> 2 of them
[13:47] <wesguin> ozerimar, if your computer can boot from a usb drive then I recommend it
[13:47] <unimatrix9> ozerimar , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:47] <histo> ozerimar: the install disk
[13:47] <ozerimar> why usb???
[13:47] <unimatrix9> ( i hope its correct )
[13:48] <vic20gmr> wesguin, u said look at my load, im not sure i understand
[13:48] <histo> !who | ozerimar
[13:48] <tjingboem> h2g2bob, yes but it takes 30 seconds to be found after logging in
[13:48] <ozerimar> yes i have the original install disc
[13:48] <wesguin> ozerimar, it's faster and less hassle than the cd install
[13:48] <tado> i had a vpn set up on karmic, installing a fresh lucid, i can't make it work. the gui has changed and it doesn't ask for a certificate any longer
[13:48] <tado> does someone know how to set it up properly? the infos that worked on karmic are here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/434946/
[13:48] <wesguin> vic20gmr, your cpu usage and system load.. like using top or system monitor
[13:48] <tsyj2007> linux mint is coming ..
[13:48]  * unimatrix9 is retrieving 
[13:49] <clone4ubuntu> iam in hunt to find feature of mac
[13:49] <IdleOne> !ot | tsyj2007
[13:49] <ozerimar> there is noway to rescue my laptop through the console then?
[13:49] <clone4ubuntu> but i dont have mac pc
[13:49] <wesguin> ozerimar, if you already have the install disk then just use that
[13:49] <tjingboem> h2g2bob, this is my line in fstab: # /home was on /dev/sda6 during installation
[13:49] <tjingboem> UUID=1d2caa50-fc5b-45db-b669-4013e652adfb /home           ext4    defaults        0       2
[13:49] <bazhang> clone4ubuntu, what does that have to with Ubuntu support
[13:49]  * histo gives up
[13:49] <vic20gmr> how the heck wud i do that from nexuiz or assaultcube?
[13:49] <ozerimar> insatll fresh or????
[13:49] <twoeightone> Anyone have experience with integrated graphics INTEL 945GM?
[13:49] <vic20gmr> wesguin, how the heck wud i do that from nexuiz or assaultcube?
[13:49] <clone4ubuntu> lets compare mac with ubuntu
[13:49] <h2g2bob> tjingboem: Do you get logged in as root? That would explain why you end up in /root. Can you do a whoami?
[13:49] <ozerimar> fresh install??
[13:50] <bazhang> clone4ubuntu, wrong channel for that
[13:50] <IdleOne> clone4ubuntu: let's not
[13:50] <tsyj2007> linux mint ?irc?
[13:50] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic clone4ubuntu
[13:50] <wesguin> vic20gmr, well system monitor is graphical so it leaves a trace
[13:50] <bazhang> !mintsupport > tsyj2007
[13:50] <wesguin> vic20gmr, this is just fyi tho it won't help fix it
[13:50] <unimatrix9> ozerimar , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ( last try )
[13:50] <vic20gmr> o ya
[13:50] <tjingboem> h2g2bob, i see my name
[13:50] <tsyj2007> ok..
[13:51] <tsyj2007> i know
[13:51] <wesguin> unimatrix9, yeah but he's not connected to the net
[13:51] <tjingboem> h2g2bob, but the term9inal starts in /
[13:51] <unimatrix9> so how is he speaking ?
[13:51] <wesguin> different computer
[13:51] <unimatrix9> ah
[13:51] <ozerimar> can u send that again in private screen keeps scrolling fast
[13:52] <wesguin> I hate to say it ozerimar but you are out of any easy options
[13:52] <h2g2bob> tjingboem: Does anything appear on /var/log/syslog?
[13:52] <tjingboem> ill check...
[13:52] <clone4ubuntu> i got wrong answer to "how can i search all drives at once in ubuntu in launchpad"
[13:52] <vic20gmr> wesguin, u think mabe id have better results with an older version or newest
[13:53] <clone4ubuntu> ubutnu doesnt really have this functionality
[13:53]  * unimatrix9 be back later
[13:53] <wesguin> vic20gmr, older distro of ubuntu you mean?
[13:53] <vic20gmr> ya
[13:53] <bazhang> clone4ubuntu, explain what you are trying to do
[13:53] <wesguin> vic20gmr, you're in karmic now?
[13:53] <vic20gmr> yes
[13:53] <wesguin> vic20gmr, karmic should be good
[13:53] <tjingboem> h2g2bob, yes it is looking for a floppy disk that i do not have. I think that's it.
[13:53] <clone4ubuntu> i want support dude bazhang
[13:53] <Multi> does anyone have any experience in using FUSE and samba with Likewise open?
[13:53] <wesguin> vic20gmr, maybe you just need to find the right tweaks
[13:53] <IdleOne> clone4ubuntu: ask a question
[13:54] <vic20gmr> well if i went to 10.04, u think it mabe wud giv better results?
[13:54] <clone4ubuntu> and answers to my ubuntu questions
[13:54] <bazhang> clone4ubuntu, then clarify your issue
[13:54] <tjingboem> h2g2bob, it's also in fstab, i will uncomment it
[13:54] <wesguin> vic20gmr, is that a fast cpu?
[13:54] <cwillu_at_work> anybody know how to make dkms work?  (and I don't mean "sudo dkms install";  if you don't know what dkms.conf does, please don't respond)
[13:54] <vic20gmr> not really i gess, p4 2.533 ghz
[13:54] <tjingboem> h2g2bob, sorry, comment :)
[13:54] <wesguin> vic20gmr, it's possible 10.04 will fix your problems
[13:54] <wesguin> hm
[13:54] <clone4ubuntu> when i want to search for a file on my entire harddisk ubuntu doesnt provide me a choice
[13:54] <h2g2bob> tjingboem: cool - sounds like that would cause it to hang up for a moment
[13:54] <wesguin> well this thing is 900MHz celeron M
[13:54] <tjingboem> h2g2bob, thanks for the tip!
[13:55] <vic20gmr> ok
[13:55] <h2g2bob> tjingboem: np
[13:55] <wesguin> works pretty good on here
[13:55] <histo> clone4ubuntu: locate
[13:55] <wesguin> the satellite is 64 bit dual athlon something I think
[13:55] <ozerimar> if i reinstall 9.10 will it over write all previous data
[13:55] <wesguin> but running 32 bit ubuntu
[13:55] <clone4ubuntu> can i enable compiz effects but i doesnt have a graphic card
[13:55] <ikonia> clone4ubuntu: nautilus can search the whole disk
[13:55] <ikonia> clone4ubuntu: you can't enable graphics tools like compiz without a graphics card
[13:55] <bazhang> clone4ubuntu, what? how can you not have a graphics card
[13:55] <wesguin> ozerimar, you could tell it not to format your /home partition
[13:56] <histo> bazhang: headless
[13:56] <vic20gmr> im a ubuntu noob [im sure its a bit obvious] im really eager to get this thing working so i can hopefully soon say bb to windows
[13:56] <soreau> clone4ubuntu: You need at least an intel, ati or nvidia chipset to run compiz (also runs on some select via chipsets)
[13:56] <ozerimar> ok  will try that
[13:56] <bazhang> histo, it doesn't make sense for him to ask for compiz then
[13:56] <wesguin> ozerimar, just make sureyou use the same partitions as before
[13:56] <clone4ubuntu> should i buy a graphic card then what are the requirements minimum to look out for
[13:56] <phrag> whats the ubuntu equivalent of alsaconf ?
[13:56] <ozerimar> what is the best option?
[13:56] <vic20gmr> wesguin, im a ubuntu noob [im sure its a bit obvious] im really eager to get this thing working so i can hopefully soon say bb to windows
[13:56] <ozerimar> ok
[13:56] <IdleOne> histo: well if he is running headless then he should already know that compiz is just not going to work.
[13:57] <histo> clone4ubuntu: is it a headless machine or what type of video card do you have?
[13:57] <wesguin> vic20gmr, yeah I saw
[13:57] <vic20gmr> but its a pain
[13:57] <ikonia> clone4ubuntu: you need a graphics card, look on the ubuntu.com and compiz websites for supported cards
[13:57] <histo> IdleOne: thats what i'd think also.
[13:57] <wesguin> yeah it is
[13:57] <clone4ubuntu> i have motherboard no graphics card installed
[13:57] <ikonia> clone4ubuntu: then buy a graphics card
[13:57] <histo> clone4ubuntu: so what is your monitor hooked to?
[13:57] <cwillu_at_work> clone4ubuntu, your motherboard has a graphics card built-in, which may or may not suffice for compiz
[13:57] <clone4ubuntu> should i buy ati or Nvidia
[13:58] <ikonia> clone4ubuntu: read ubuntu.com and the compiz website to see which cards are supported
[13:58] <wesguin> vic20gmr, it seems to vary depending on the hardware and I can't really predict how the different versions will run
[13:58] <clone4ubuntu> i doesnt have suffice video ram
[13:58] <wesguin> vic20gmr,  you just have to try it
[13:58] <histo> clone4ubuntu: lspci   will show you what type of card you have
[13:58] <phrag> alsaconf equivalent in ubuntu?
[13:58] <soreau> clone4ubuntu: Can you show the output of lspci|grep VGA from your terminal?
[13:58] <clone4ubuntu> histo i dont have a pci card
[13:58] <clone4ubuntu> i have a tv tuner card
[13:59] <wesguin> vic20gmr, I upgraded my sisters to 10.04 and her karmic was flawless.. had issues with 64 bit 10.04 but we got it figured out.. but I had to reinstall grub2
[13:59] <tarkan> salam
[13:59] <clone4ubuntu> which one is better ATI or Nvidia for linux
[13:59] <phrag> what tool does ubuntu use for alsa configuration?
[13:59] <phrag> clone4ubuntu: nvidia
[13:59] <IdleOne> !hardware > clone4ubuntu
[14:00] <histo> clone4ubuntu: yes you do have a pci card but think what you want.
[14:00] <phrag> seriously, what kind of support channel is this? you guys are useless
[14:00] <histo> phrag: really
[14:00] <joaopinto> !patience | phrag
[14:01] <IdleOne> !attitude | phrag
[14:01] <sipior> phrag: you can probably still get your money back.
[14:01] <wesguin> heh
[14:01] <phrag> well i'm from ##slackware and have given more than 10 years of my life to IRC support..
[14:01] <wesguin> hey I did that too
[14:01] <phrag> i ask a simple legit question, like what tool does ubuntu use to configure sound.. and get ignored
[14:01] <sipior> phrag: cry somewhere else, please.
[14:01] <wesguin> then I got tired of it
[14:01] <phrag> then some noob asking silly questions gets the attention of the full channel
[14:01] <phrag> fail
[14:02] <jud> any chance of getting a hand enabling permissions to open files on an external drive?
[14:02] <phrag> i'm asking for a friend, would not be seen dead running ubuntu =P
[14:02] <IdleOne> phrag: nobody is ignoring you. Should we all answer " I don't know" so the channel gets 500 lines of that?
[14:02] <vic20gmr> wesguin, u think id be ok "upgrading" from within 9.10 to 10.04, or i shud do a new install from cd?
[14:03] <wesguin> vic20gmr, my son did the upgrade on his laptop with no issues and he's gaming like a champ
[14:03] <wesguin> vic20gmr, he's playing warcraft III and all kinds of stuff.. I put warcraft I on there for dosbox
[14:04] <Varth> Is there a setting to change the ugly notification placement?
[14:04] <jud> the upgrade resulted in denied permissions for an external drive that wasn't happening before
[14:04] <wesguin> vic: he has some kind of asus gaming laptop.. not sure what the model number is.. it lights up all over
[14:04] <vic20gmr> wesguin, thx for the help and input
[14:04] <wesguin> well i hope it helps some.. I'm like 99% asleep
[14:05] <Galerien> wesguin: take a redbull...
[14:05] <wesguin> ahah
[14:05] <wesguin> I do have some mt dew and 5 hr energy shots
[14:05] <wesguin> but I should just get sleep
[14:06] <vic20gmr> wesguin, sleep is for windows users!
[14:06] <wesguin> heh
[14:06] <histo> Varth: maybe somewhere in gconf
[14:06] <vic20gmr> -get apt 5hourenergy <karmic>
[14:06] <vic20gmr> hehe
[14:06] <wesguin> why cuz they dont have to work on their puter as much?  aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!
[14:06] <Beea> I can't get sound when I try to play videos. ie youtube.com but not just there.
[14:06] <jud> wesguin: genius is best accessed during hypnogogic or hypnopompic states. that's when you're either falling to sleep or waking up...i forget which is which but anyway
[14:06] <Varth> histo: I couldn't find anything by searching the keys.
[14:06] <wesguin> haha
[14:06] <vic20gmr> cuz ther puters dont work themselves [as much]
[14:07] <vic20gmr> heeh
[14:07] <vic20gmr> hehe
[14:07] <wesguin> I'm hipnoootizzed
[14:07] <wesguin> man I am one loopy guy right about now
[14:07] <vic20gmr> i sympathize
[14:07] <histo> Varth: i searched for notification and found a bunch of stuff
[14:07] <wesguin> I thnk I'll have one more mt dew
[14:07] <wesguin> bbiab
[14:07] <vic20gmr> well im off to "upgrade"
[14:07] <wesguin> good luck
[14:07] <histo> Varth: apps/panel/applets/notification_area_screen0   etc...
[14:07] <vic20gmr> thx
[14:08] <jud> wesguin:  you're hypnotized huh...cool...answer my question...answer my question
[14:08] <camara> hi
[14:08] <Varth> histo: That key is for the system tray.
[14:08] <Beea> Can someone help me. I can not get audio on the net
[14:08] <demona> anyone else hate "smart tab completion" and find it often prevents you from tabbing out what you actually want?
[14:09] <camara> demona help me
[14:09] <IdleOne> !ask | camara
[14:09] <camara> qubik help me
[14:09] <wesguin> jud, what was yer question?
[14:09] <sanousy> Hi, anyone suffering from gmail on Ubuntu 10.04?
[14:10] <jud> wesguin:  how do i set permissions so i can open pdfs on an external drive?
[14:10] <camara> i want to create i workstation timer but i do not have the software
[14:10] <wesguin> jud, the file or filesystem permissions?
[14:11] <sanousy> هاي
[14:11] <jud> wesguin: everything i think?
[14:11] <wesguin> jud, seems to me that shouldn't be an issue
[14:11] <wesguin> jud, you  getting some error?
[14:11] <Beea> Nevermind bye
[14:12] <wesguin> it should only require read perms
[14:12] <lubuntu_user> Hi, does anyone know when the developers are going to update the openchrome driver in lucid, so that Xv video playback is usable again?
[14:12] <histo> Varth: No idea then
[14:12] <jud> wesguin: yeah, permission denied error when i try to save to the external drive or after i move a file to it i get the permission denied error trying to open it
[14:12] <Varth> histo: Okay. Thanks.
[14:12] <tju8896> ls
[14:12] <wers> gwibber's so weird. it never worked on lucid on this computer, but it works on my other lucid laptop. any idea why? It doesnt show any message on my stream
[14:13] <wesguin> jud, hmm.. what's the fstab entry look like?
[14:13] <camara> is there any net timer you know people?
[14:13] <jud> wesguin: ...oh man, i'm new at this, what is that?
[14:14] <IdleOne> camara: timer to do what exactly?
[14:14] <wesguin> jud, I'm having a hard time rememberig myself.. but it's something to do with the mtab or fstab entries in /etc they govern the filesystem perms when it mounts
[14:14] <camara> to control net clients and customers
[14:15] <mint> why do i hear static when changing volume using 5.1 sound
[14:15] <wesguin> jud, but my knowledge is really dated.. I used linux many years but stopped for awhile and now everything has changed a bit
[14:15] <TJ-> hi guys
[14:15] <TJ-> pptpd is telling it cannot find the config files, yes I deleted them by mistake. Is there an easy way to get them back? I've tried apt-get --reinstall pptpd , no such luck... Any ideas?
[14:15] <histo> TJ-: you cn purge it then install it
[14:15] <wesguin> jud, now this external drive is that connected usb?
[14:15] <TJ-> histo how?
[14:16] <camara> do u have a software for net  control for customers pliz
[14:16] <jud> wesguin:  ok....it wasn't happening before updating but then i did something just before updating that could have messed with it....yeah, usb connection
[14:16] <lubuntu_user> TJ - i think that u can use pppoeconf to remake the user generated files
[14:16] <histo> TJ-: sudo apt-get purge <packagename>   Or see what lubuntu_user has said
[14:17] <wesguin> jud, well it's probably something to do with the automounting setup
[14:17] <TJ-> great thanks guys ill look into it
[14:17] <wesguin> jud, hang on
[14:17] <lubuntu_user> TJ - sudo apt-get autoremove --purge <packagename> && sudo apt-get install <package name>
[14:17] <jud> wesguin:  ok
[14:17] <Multi> does anyone have any experience in using FUSE and samba with Likewise open?
[14:17] <TJ-> histo purge worked like a charm!
[14:17] <TJ-> thanks man
[14:18] <TJ-> now to figure out why the router isnt forwarding GRE
[14:18] <wesguin> jud, what filesystem is on that drive?
[14:19] <jud> wesguin: hmm, it may have been formatted on windows?
[14:19] <histo> !anyone | Multi
[14:20] <Multi> Histo: good pint, have some problem with FUSE in LikeWise-open, (LUCID). When im about to mount a windows share on ubuntu nothing happens and the folder i want to mount the share in is destroyed
[14:21] <Mutesounds> Is there a setting to make windows remember their position when opened?
[14:21] <sanousy> help
[14:21] <wesguin> jud, can you open a terminal and check some things?
[14:21] <sanousy> --help
[14:21] <sanousy> /help
[14:22] <histo> !ask | sanousy
[14:22] <jud> wesguin:  yep
[14:22] <xro> hi, i'm looking for a vb decompiler.... does someone know one?
[14:23] <sanousy> ehhh, sorry I am looking to that command line list...
[14:23] <wesguin> jud, first run fdisk -l and find where it is.. like maybe it'll be /dev/sdc1 or something
[14:23] <sanousy> long time I did not use IRC
[14:23] <erUSUL> xro: mono has a VB.NET compiler.... gambas is a RAD tool based on a basic dialect but no the same as MS VB
[14:24] <erUSUL> !info gambas2
[14:24] <wesguin> jud, you might need to put sudo before that
[14:24] <jud> wesguin: ok, just getting familiar with the command line.  i can just past that command in as is or is there more to it?
[14:25] <wesguin> jud, type: sudo fdisk -l
[14:25] <wesguin> that's an L
[14:25] <wesguin> enter your normal password
[14:25] <Raydiation> hm, my audio stopped working on ubuntu 10.04 after an update
[14:25] <Raydiation> i got intel hda
[14:25] <wesguin> it's all this authentication stuff that really messes me up
[14:26] <Raydiation> when i try to run alsamixer i get: couldnt open mixer because of missing device file
[14:26] <wesguin> here I come from slackware and now there's sysv init and pam and who knows what all
[14:26] <Raydiation> no such file or directory
[14:26] <xro> erUSUL, ok i'll try gambas2
[14:26] <jud> wesguin:  ok got a bit of out put
[14:27] <wesguin> jud, one of those is your external drive
[14:27] <wesguin> jud, that is if it's plugged in :)
[14:27] <jatt> is there a way to configure the sound applet to show the slider vertically and not horizontally.
[14:29] <jud> wesguin: yep it's plugged in ok so i think i know which one it is...now what?
[14:29] <wesguin> jud, which is it?
[14:29] <ForgeAus> why's ubuntu need libgweather? is that some kinda weather forecast applet?
[14:29] <xro> erUSUL, okay, i have gambas2 but there is no vb file what should i use?
[14:29] <wesguin> it's probably the one at the bottom
[14:29] <wesguin> whichever was the last mounted
[14:30] <erUSUL> xro: i do not personally use gambas2 i only know of its existence ... i'm sure gambas web site has some tutorials and how to's
[14:30] <tatofoo> is it possible to install ubuntu without overriding my current grub configuration? I want to manually add an entry for it
[14:30] <jud> wesguin:  actuall, how do i tell for sure, i have an internal secondary which is the same size...?
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[14:30] <FloodBot2> rybrian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:30] <FloodBot2> blackjackiisre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:30] <ForgeAus> tatofoo it will save your old one
[14:30] <Frozenball> fu-ck you
[14:30] <Pici> Frozenball: Thats not needed.
[14:31] <tizbac> wtf
[14:31] <h32Lg> -.-
[14:31] <Zed`> damn spamers on every network these days
[14:31] <fumanchu182> yeah that made x-chat blow up
[14:31] <Zed`> anyone ever click on the links?
[14:31] <LjL> Frozenball: no need to worsen the situation by swearing :(
[14:31] <fumanchu182> yeah i use lynx to follow them
[14:32] <Zed`> fumanchu182: hehe I have done that too, but I mean that how can the spamming be woorthwhile
[14:32] <Neo--> zed: somebody has to, otherwise nobody would be doing it
[14:32] <lalla> hi...while installing Ubuntu, the logo that v c, where is that logo on cd...I'm unable to find it
[14:32] <jud> wow, that's the first time for me
[14:32] <spads_> hi
[14:32] <a94060> any ops here?
[14:32] <benedikt> Since the volume control has been simplified so much, how do I edit the more low-level settings now? Like IEC958?
[14:32] <Pici> a94060: Yes.
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[14:32] <Zed`> and does the spammers mother's know what jerks they turned out to be?
[14:32] <jcrawford> how lovely floodbots
[14:32] <tizbac> -______________-
[14:32] <LzrdKing> oh jeez
[14:32] <a94060> no bans for em?
[14:32] <tizbac> ipban please
[14:32] <Neo--> i think this is going to be a long day...
[14:32] <fumanchu182> today seems like it is going to be a fund day
[14:32] <fumanchu182> lol
[14:32] <Pici> They've already been taken care of.
[14:32] <tizbac> or i'll leave channel
[14:32] <lalla> hi...while installing Ubuntu, the logo that v c, where is that logo on cd...I'm unable to find it
[14:32] <Stijndg> yeah great :-), what is this, stupid google popups on my desktop :p
[14:32] <rgreening> !ops
[14:33] <IdleOne> everybody just relax
[14:33] <LjL> ops are aware
[14:33] <LjL> please ignore the trolling
[14:33] <zicho> damn highlights
[14:33] <Pici> rgreening: We're already here.
[14:33] <rgreening> okies
[14:33] <rgreening> its annoying getting the pings
[14:33] <rgreening> :)
[14:33] <TJ-> lol
[14:33] <wesguin> jud, oh n/m that doesn
[14:33] <wesguin> 't work
[14:33] <tootroot> disable in client
[14:33] <tootroot> get irssi
[14:33] <hidensoft> hi every body
[14:33] <tootroot> mass hilight bloker script
[14:33] <kh_maxim> hello. How to reduce the brightness of my notebook screen? Standard brightness applet not working :(
[14:33] <lalla> can anyone hear me???
[14:33] <lalla> hi...while installing Ubuntu, the logo that v c, where is that logo on cd...I'm unable to find it
[14:33] <hidensoft> i want create document az PDF file
[14:33] <fumanchu182> lalla, we can't hear you speak louder...
[14:33] <wesguin> jud, you can still unmount it and see if it disappears tho
[14:34] <histo> kh_maxim: is there a function key shortcut?
[14:34] <AryanA> hi , i have openssh-server installed but there is no sshd in init.d. what's the problem?
[14:34] <hidensoft> anybody can help me how i can
[14:34] <histo> AryanA: what version of ubuntu?
[14:34] <AryanA> lucid
[14:34] <lalla> hidensoft, export the file as .pdf in open office
[14:35] <histo> AryanA: there should be ssh in threre
[14:35] <hidensoft> lalla, ok
[14:35] <AryanA> yeah but no sshd
[14:35] <lalla> fumanchu182, so do u know the answer?
[14:35] <AryanA> does ssh restart, restart the sshd server too?
[14:35] <fumanchu182> I can't hear you speak louder...
[14:35] <cs278|work> AryanA, ssh is the sshd server ;)
[14:35] <lalla> fumanchu182, how lame
[14:35] <histo> AryanA: yes
[14:36] <AryanA> ok, tnx
[14:36] <jpds> AryanA: It's been changed to /etc/init/sshd.conf
[14:36] <Pici> lalla: Can you rephrase the question? I'm not sure we all understand what you are asking.
[14:36] <fumanchu182> No because I don't know what "v c," stands for.
[14:36] <bastid_raZor> AryanA: you may need openssh-server package
[14:37] <kh_maxim> histo: yes, but the function key don't working too.
[14:37] <lalla> pici, while installing ubuntu, a logo keeps blinking right? where is that logo on cd, in which folder?
[14:38] <jud> wesguin: ok, it didn't dissapear but i ran fdisk again without it and found out that way
[14:38] <komputes> heya rgreening ;)
[14:38] <rgreening> mornin komputes
[14:39] <rgreening> ima soo beat after UDS
[14:39] <rgreening> :)
[14:39] <wesguin> jud, this might be all the help you need here: http://joeb454.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1373614
[14:39] <compaq> alright my good people, someone tell me who to select a different video driver for my intel video card.  Also, how do I see which driver I am using and other available?
[14:39] <komputes> same, fell asleep in a movie theater...
[14:39] <rgreening> ha
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> compaq:  other then 'vga' im not sure there are any others available
[14:40] <wesguin> jud, basically I was just gonna have you take a look at that drives mtab entry to see if it looked okay.. but even then there's more that be causing the problem.. and I'm gonna have to get going soon
[14:41] <compaq> Dr_Willis, back in the debian days, you would use dpkg-reconfigure, but now xorg is auto config.  So I guess I have to change it in xorg.conf file, but will the change be permanent even after reboot, isn't there a menu way of doing it?
[14:41] <xro> erUSUL, i play with gambas but it looks like it can't decompile vb...
[14:41] <jud> wesguin: no worries, go to bed, thanks
[14:41] <wesguin> jud, but that url deals exacly with  your problem
[14:41] <wesguin> jud,  hope that helps :)
[14:41] <jud> wesguin: cheers!
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> compaq:  you could still use xorg.conf i guess but other then using  the low end vga driver. Ive no idea wht other driver you would even try
[14:41] <wesguin> nite :)
[14:42] <helpnoob> need help I need to login to unecrypt the home directory. I have messed with the login screen for me where I dont have to put in my password and since then  it wont unecrypt the home dir any ideas on how to fix this from the live cd
[14:42] <compaq> Dr_Willis, oh, I will go google for a while then, if you here I will let you know what I find
[14:42] <KaiForce> I've got a system where the / file system has gone read only and is having errors on the SATA bus.  There is another disk exported as an NFS share that I need to keep running until 5:00PM today.  I'd like to shutdown as many services as I can to keep this box limping along until then.  Can anyone assist?
[14:43] <KaiForce> i've already stopped GDM and cron
[14:43] <benedikt> I think my soundcard is using my pc speaker to output sound
[14:43] <lalla> how to use unsquash
[14:44] <histo> helpnoob: change the login screen back
[14:45] <histo> helpnoob: I would look in /etc/gdm for settings
[14:45] <helpnoob> how
[14:45] <Pici> lalla: If you just want the image itself, it may be easier to look through our art assets: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/VisualIdentity and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/
[14:46] <histo> helpnoob: or purge gdm and reinstall it.
[14:48] <lalla> pici,ok thanx but where can i locate it on cd..and how is it blinking?
[14:48] <histo> lalla: magic
[14:48] <helpnoob> ok where in the gdm file stating for it to not ask for password located
[14:49] <histo> helpnoob: I have no idea.
[14:49] <clone4ubuntu> thanks but no thanks i wont buy a new graphic card for the sake of compiz
[14:49] <tju8896> ls
[14:49] <clone4ubuntu> i have too limited budget
[14:49] <histo> clone4ubuntu: why not use the one you have
[14:49] <Galerien> clone4ubuntu: what is you graphic card???
[14:50] <clone4ubuntu> histo i doesnt have a graphics card
[14:50] <histo> Galerien: he thinks he doesn't have one
[14:50] <lalla> histo: u know that magic?
[14:50] <histo> clone4ubuntu: yes you do
[14:50] <histo> lalla: no idea
[14:50] <clone4ubuntu> i have inbuilt graphics on 845gvsr mobo
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> helpnoob:  use the gdm config tools  is the best way to configure that
[14:51] <clone4ubuntu> which is four years old
[14:51] <histo> clone4ubuntu: and that is a graphics card
[14:51] <histo> clone4ubuntu: and it will run compiz
[14:51] <clone4ubuntu> not at all
[14:51] <K|nG> Why evrytime i Reebot my NetworkManager do no:S
[14:51] <clone4ubuntu> i want to renew my pc
[14:51] <clone4ubuntu> but doesnt have budget
[14:52] <Galerien> clone4ubuntu: where are you from?
[14:52] <histo> Galerien: i've given up
[14:52] <clone4ubuntu> india
[14:52] <Galerien> histo: i've got time, 'im at work so...
[14:52] <helpnoob> ok here is what i did i went to user and groups and made it not ask for password and now cant get in
[14:52] <onetinsoldier> hi all
[14:52] <histo> helpnoob: ???
[14:53] <Galerien> clone4ubuntu: ok, what would be your budjet ?
[14:53] <DrGrov> Hello and good day
[14:53] <onetinsoldier> howdy
[14:53] <WePanicForYou> huomenta
[14:53] <DrGrov> Gotta ask that can I run both KDE and GNOME on Ubuntu 10.04?
[14:53] <Galerien> budget*
[14:53] <DrGrov> huomenta WePanicForYou
[14:53] <clone4ubuntu> 5 thousand  rupees=?
[14:53] <DrGrov> hi onetinsoldier
[14:53] <helpnoob> i figured there is a file telling it not to ask like a conf file i can delete or over write to fix this issue
[14:53] <clone4ubuntu> 1 dollar is 46 rupees
[14:53] <histo> helpnoob: where in user and groups did you do that?
[14:53] <helpnoob> but where would it be
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  yes. you can Install both kde and gnome. and pick what one to use at the Login screen
[14:53] <Galerien> DrGrov: yes, but I never did...
[14:53] <histo> helpnoob: and yes there is a file you can edit
[14:54] <K|nG> Why evrytime i Reebot my NetworkManager do not show :S
[14:54] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis, cool. I kind of want to test KDE without though messing up my GNOME desktop and settings.
[14:54] <DrGrov> Galerien, ah. I perhaps understand you why not KDE 4.x... ;)
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  your system will be a merger of kde and gmome. You will have kde menu items in your gnome menus then. and visa versa
[14:54] <Galerien> clone4ubuntu: that's ~100$... In france you can get a decent graphic card for 40 - 50$...
[14:55] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis, ah so it works like that. But no serious issues though with compatibility etc. ?
[14:55] <K|nG> Why evry time i reebot my PC NetworkManager do not shown :S
[14:55] <Galerien> "yum" on #ubuntu... mort de rire
[14:55] <clone4ubuntu> Galerien: i want to change my motherboard,gf card and harddisk within 7000 rupees
[14:56] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis, how is it that my Workspace Switcher is completely locked on just 1 desktop? I can't scroll between the 4 ones I have there.... Any idea? Tried last night to fix this without any luck.
[14:56] <helpnoob> histo: when i opened user and groups i did it on that screen
[14:56] <Galerien> clone4ubuntu: I don't know about idian prices, but good luck with that :x
[14:56] <Galerien> indian*
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  it shows 4? or just 1 ?
[14:56] <histo> helpnoob: okay I see no where to disable enterring a password on the login screen in users and groups.
[14:56] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis, it shows 4 but I can't select either 2,3 nor 4. Just keep hanging with 1 of them. THe first
[14:57] <DrGrov> Galerien, perhaps you would like to evaluate my current computer with what I put together?
[14:57] <helpnoob> version 10.04
[14:57] <histo> helpnoob: yeap
[14:58] <histo> helpnoob: under System > admin > login screen you can tell it to automatically login
[14:58] <helpnoob> where it says password aked on login  then there  is a button that says change
[14:58] <Galerien> DrGrov: well, I told you that I know we can, some of my friend did, but I don't know how...
[14:59] <clone4ubuntu> i simply like to chat
[14:59] <acicula> clone4ubuntu, market prices also vary, not just the currency exchange, if you need help buying hardware the ##hardware channel is probably a good channel to ask
[14:59] <clone4ubuntu> but do nothing spl with my pc
[14:59] <clone4ubuntu> so i would like to not change my pc right now
[15:00] <histo> helpnoob: I gotcha now hold up let me see what that edits
[15:00] <jud> ok, beginners question. if i'm given three lines of code, do i enter them one at a time or all at once?
[15:00] <clone4ubuntu> also its four years old now
[15:00] <DrGrov> Galerien, my current computer is a 2 dual core AMD Opteron 64 model 280 CPU's, a 30GB SolidState HDD for root and swap, 250GB 2,5" laptop HDD which is insanely fast (SATA2 7200rpm), Nvidia GTS250 1GB GPU...
[15:00] <juxta> how can I find out which package contains the 'htdigest' program?
[15:00] <acicula> jud, ussually on new lines
[15:01] <Galerien> DrGrov: yeah... so?
[15:01] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis, it sort of doesn't bother me to keep just 1 workspace but surely I would prefer to have 4 to choose between. Gets a bit messy otherwise.
[15:01] <erUSUL> !find htdigest
[15:01] <acicula> juxta, apt-cache search htdigest
[15:01] <DrGrov> Galerien, just though I'd ask what you thought.
[15:01] <juxta> acicula: thanks :)
[15:01] <DrGrov> Galerien, since you were speaking about computer stuff....
[15:01] <jud> acicula: so i enter 1 then enter, then the second etc.?
[15:01] <Galerien> DrGrov: well, ok
[15:01] <pauljw> anyone successfully using an HP Officejet 4500 wireless printer with ubuntu?
[15:01] <clone4ubuntu> lot of stuff in ubuntu doesnt have a graphical interface
[15:01] <MacHead> I have a task shown under top called "Background" that is maxing out my CPU, what does it do and is it safe for me to kill?
[15:01] <clone4ubuntu> like fstab/fdisk/grub
[15:02] <Pici> clone4ubuntu: Do you have a support question?
[15:02] <MacHead> "Backend" sorry
[15:02] <acicula> jud yeah, though some programming constructs ignore newlines so it does not really matter how you format your code
[15:02] <clone4ubuntu> fdisk is fsck in ubuntu
[15:02] <rootcut> Hi. I can't access my 8 Gb HP Flash Drive in Ubuntu OR Windows. How do I go about mounting it, OR at least formatting it, via Ubuntu ? GParted doesn't read it either, but it shows up in the "Places" menu.
[15:02] <Pici> clone4ubuntu: If you don't have a question you are free to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic  , Please remember that Ubuntu is for support issues only.
[15:03] <DrGrov> Galerien, what you think about that setup?
[15:03] <clone4ubuntu> rootcut i think there is solution in windows
[15:03] <Galerien> DrGrov: Swap on your SolidState is a good idea for performances, but not for your money, It will weaken it faster... beside that, I've got nothing to say, except that you might have had a better deal with an Intel CPU
[15:03] <jud> acicula: hmm, so i can string all lines together, one after the other at a single command prompt?
[15:03] <clone4ubuntu> there is a software called mount deleted partitions in windows
[15:03] <histo> helpnoob: looks like you ahve to remove your user from the group nopasswdlogin
[15:03] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis, perhaps there is somekind of conflict with Compiz that takes control of my workspaces?
[15:03] <rootcut> clone4ubuntu, i'll look it up. thought i could at least format it from ubuntu without switching to windows.
[15:03] <DrGrov> Galerien, I just paid 650 euros for that setup. 8GB ram of course.
[15:04] <clone4ubuntu> rootcut :which os ur using linux version
[15:04] <clone4ubuntu> i think u can format using lucid lynx
[15:04] <onetinsoldier> just use a ;
[15:04] <histo> helpnoob: do you have your drive mounted right now?
[15:04] <ania_>  650 euros for that setup. 8GB ram hahahaha
[15:04] <DrGrov> Galerien, it is built out of a HP xw9300 Workstation
[15:04] <Galerien> DrGrov: 8 GB ram? Do you like creating heavy 3D stuff or having 4 differents of runing at the same time :D ??
[15:04] <onetinsoldier> just use a ; after each command
[15:04] <acicula> jud, that is possible yeah
[15:04] <Dawgmatix> i managed to break my python installation in lucid. i was trying to replace the current version with a self compiled version, and removed the /usr/lib/python2.6 directory to replace it with my compiled version. needless to say this has broken a lot of things, the most important of which is the PYTHONPATH, it seems that /usr/share/pyshared etc are no longer in my pythonpath, any ideas on what sets the pythonpath in lucid ?
[15:05] <DrGrov> ania_, just say what you were thinking. you can easily tell me straight.
[15:05] <ania_> overpaid
[15:05] <Sacho> offtopic
[15:05] <rootcut> thanks clone4ubuntu, i'll take a look.
[15:05] <DrGrov> Galerien, I keep running a lot of VMWare for testing purposes. Like to really multitask stuff.
[15:06] <Galerien> DrGrov: I don't think your CPU is fast enough to use all of it with efficiency :D
[15:06] <histo> helpnoob: edit the /etc/group file and remove your user from the nopasswdlogin group
[15:06] <Galerien> But still, a good computer...
[15:06] <Galerien> when did you buy it?
[15:06] <jud> acicula: what's the assumed standard procedure when a forum offers a few lines to solve a problem? and, if i do string them together, do i nedd to seperate them by any character?
[15:06] <onetinsoldier> Dawgmatix: you'd probably be best off just restoring the original lucid python
[15:07] <DrGrov> Galerien, thanks for telling good pointers.
[15:07] <Dawgmatix> i did a reinstall , but that didnt fix the path
[15:07] <Dawgmatix> (i mean i reinstalled the python2.6 package)
[15:07] <clone4ubuntu> which one is good choice to renew pc or but graphic card or install more ram
[15:07] <meborc> exit
[15:07] <clone4ubuntu> buy*
[15:08] <onetinsoldier> Dawgmatix: roger.... i don't know
[15:08] <bvalek2> i used pppoeconf to set up internet connection, and the nm-applet (network manager) disappeared in gnome after a restart. how do i bring it back? the laptop needs wireless. its 10.04
[15:08] <marienz> Dawgmatix: /usr/share/pyshared is not normally on your sys.path. Individual .py files from that directory are symlinked into /usr/lib/python2.x/dist-packages/ iirc.
[15:08] <KaiForce> I've got a system where the / file system has gone read only and is having errors on the SATA bus. There is another disk exported as an NFS share that I need to keep running until 5:00PM today. I'd like to shutdown as many services as I can to keep this box limping along until then. Can anyone assist?  CRON and GDM are stopped already.
[15:08] <Dawgmatix> ah marienz
[15:08] <marienz> Dawgmatix: give me a minute, trying to find you a tool to run to regenerate things
[15:08] <sanousy> is there anything better that python to program in?
[15:08] <Dawgmatix> thanks marienz
[15:08] <erUSUL> !best
[15:09] <jud> acicula: terminal just figures it out if i just paste the lines in all at once?
[15:10] <marienz> Dawgmatix: update-python-modules (and probably its -f switch)
[15:10] <Dawgmatix> thanks :)
[15:10] <Dawgmatix> youre a lifesaver
[15:10] <vak> My mc shows directories and files in the same color -- why?..
[15:11] <acicula> jud, you need to indicate separations between instructions, have a look at bash programming
[15:11] <marienz> Dawgmatix: you may have to do something similar with pycentral
[15:11] <Dawgmatix> okay i shall check on that
[15:11] <acicula> jud, so ls ls ls ls doesnt work, but ls;ls;ls;ls would, just like ls on every new line, etc
[15:11] <Bisu[Shield]> how do i open a port: I tried /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --destination-port 3306 -j ACCEPT  then service iptables save and i got the error message: iptables: unrecognized service
[15:11] <Dawgmatix> i was just trying to get some systemtap patches that the fedora guys have into my ubuntu python :)
[15:11] <histo> jud: or if you are copying and pasting and there are returns it will work
[15:12] <marienz> Dawgmatix: also, you'll have to reinstall everything that actually installed files directly into /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages (dpkg -S is your friend)
[15:12] <jud> acicula:  ok i'll look at that ...the returns are just semicolons then?
[15:13] <marienz> Dawgmatix: to do what you're trying to do it probably makes more sense to "apt-get source python2.6", apply your patches to that, build a .deb from it, and install it
[15:13] <jud> histo: ok i'll look at that ...the returns are just semicolons then?
[15:13] <Dawgmatix> okay marienz, will try that once this is built
[15:13] <histo> jud: are you copying and pasting from a website?
[15:13] <acicula> jud, returns are not the same as semi colons
[15:13] <jud> histo: yeah
[15:13] <histo> jud: you can copy and paste it then.
[15:14] <jud> acicula:  oh...?
[15:14] <histo> jud: it will enter it one line at a time
[15:15] <jud> histo: ok..what's the difference if it's from a website? how does it know to return after each line?
[15:15] <jessica_> my games earlier were all listed in "games" now... they are listed in separate categories like adventure/card games.. etc etc. How can i get all my games listed in one list and not in separate folders
[15:16] <histo> jud: it doesn't matter where its from but if you have a list of comands seperated by returns, copy and paste will work.
[15:16] <marienz> jud: it depends on what language the lines are in.
[15:16] <marienz> err, wait.
[15:16] <marienz> jud: sorry, I think I misparsed your question. Nevermind.
[15:16] <jud> mar`no worries
[15:17] <jud> histo: ok, so the returns are indicated by semicolons?
[15:17] <histo> jud: no.
[15:18] <jessica_> my games earlier were all listed in "games" now... they are listed in separate categories like adventure/card games.. etc etc. How can i get all my games listed in one list and not in separate folders? im in the Main Menu editor but when i click on games it lists all the subfolders and i cant find any option to remove them
[15:18] <histo> !patience | jessica_
[15:19] <phonic> jessica: you should be able to drag and drop them into the folder(s) you want
[15:19] <jud> histo: so, the return is not indicated by a chracter? am i asking one of those questions a beginner is not likely to understand?
[15:19] <acicula> jessica_, you can drag the entries to the top folder on the left
[15:19] <vices> what's the easiest way to put partition tools (fdisk) onto a bootable usb drive?
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> jessica_:  you are comparing the KDE menus to the gnome ones? or is this in gnome?
[15:20] <jessica_> this is gnome
[15:20] <jessica_> like all my games where just listed before.. now there are all sorts of folders
[15:20] <acicula> jud, its like asking teach me to drive by learning you how to put the gas in, pick up a book on bash shell programming. Enter and semicolon each are just characters, a newline is (for bash) a new instruction just like ; indicates the end/start of an instruction
[15:20] <theadmin> vices: I dunno, put systemrescuecd there... you'll get fdisk, gparted, parted... a lot of stuff to rescue a messed up system
[15:20] <jessica_> adventure, action, arcade
[15:20] <jessica_> board
[15:20] <phonic> did you try dragging/dropping them into the main folder
[15:20] <helpnoob> histo:  yes
[15:20] <Oer> vices use gparted iso
[15:21] <vices> Oer: can i put that onto a bootable usb?
[15:21] <jessica_> there is no main foler
[15:21] <jessica_> folder
[15:21] <phonic> Games
[15:21] <jessica_> it wont let me drop anything in games
[15:21] <vbabiy> is there any way to use the music store on 9.10
[15:21] <Bisu[Shield]> anyone here
[15:21] <theadmin> vices: You can put any image on a USB using unetbootin ;)
[15:21] <histo> jud: you'd have to read about bash
[15:21] <Oer> vices sure > http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[15:21] <Chuck27> can i ask someone a question?
[15:21] <phonic> jessica: it let me.
[15:21] <h00k> !ask | Chuck27
[15:21] <theadmin> Chuck27: Ask it, don't ask to ask
[15:21] <jud> acicula: ok, thankyou
[15:22] <PeterNL> Hi, how do I install the just-released 2.6.34 kernel in Ubuntu Jaunty? I'm using 2.6.33 now...
[15:22] <phonic> i was able to drag/drop Tetravex from 'Games/Logic' to 'Games'
[15:22] <jud> histo:  ok thanks
[15:22] <RemunJ66> Can any one help me with burning problems with Brasero?
[15:22] <h00k> !anyone | RemunJ66
[15:22] <vices> awesome thanks ^^
[15:22] <histo> jud: the semicolon tells it execute each consecutively
[15:22] <theadmin> RemunJ66: Only in brasero? Most likely it's due to it's multiple bugs
[15:22] <jessica_> when i drop them in games, it recreates the menu
[15:23] <Chuck27> I'm on x-chat and i did have buttons at the top like WhoIs what happened to them?
[15:23] <clone4ubuntu> is drag and drop available in ubuntu
[15:23] <PeterNL> Hi, how do I install the just-released 2.6.34 kernel in Ubuntu Jaunty? I'm using 2.6.33 now. I really need the KMS and TV-out fixes!
[15:23] <jud> histo: ok
[15:23] <acicula> !kernel
[15:23] <phonic> but it should also put it in 'Games'
[15:23] <acicula> see the second link PeterNL
[15:23] <clone4ubuntu> PeterNL: why dont u update the whole ystem
[15:23] <theadmin> clone4ubuntu: Uh, yes, altough depends on where exactly
[15:23] <phonic> you can copy them all over and then remove the sub-folder
[15:23] <clone4ubuntu> system*
[15:23] <histo> jud: but bash is very powerfull and you really should read a howto on it.
[15:24] <clone4ubuntu> with lucid lynx
[15:24] <PeterNL> clone4ubuntu: do we have debs? I don't like compiling...
[15:24] <jud> histo: got a link?
[15:24] <Pici> clone4ubuntu: 2.6.34 is not in Lucid.
[15:24] <acicula> clone4ubuntu, 10.04 uses the .32 kernel, which will not be replaced with .34
[15:24] <clone4ubuntu> lucid brings good changes
[15:24] <clone4ubuntu> particularly with internet
[15:24] <PeterNL> I am using Jaunty and I *need* .34!
[15:24] <sipior> clone4ubuntu: just not ones that happen to help him at all
[15:25] <vices> thanks Oer ^^
[15:25] <histo> !bash | jud
[15:25] <sipior> PeterNL: i believe you're stuck rolling your own, for the time being.
[15:25] <PeterNL> sipior: how long 'till someone makes debs?
[15:25] <sipior> PeterNL: i've no idea.
[15:25] <sipior> PeterNL: how about you make the debs?
[15:25] <theadmin> PeterNL: Until they will be rolled out in a mainstream release, which I suppose would be Maverick.
[15:26] <theadmin> PeterNL: And that is October.
[15:26] <clone4ubuntu> what is cmd for system info in ubuntu
[15:26] <theadmin> clone4ubuntu: Many of em... lshw, lspci...
[15:26] <clone4ubuntu> ubottu:
[15:26] <acicula> PeterNL, you may want to switch to lucid, since jaunty probably doesnt use any KMS at all?
[15:26] <clone4ubuntu> well have u tried systeminfo in windows
[15:26] <Pici> !who | clone4ubuntu
[15:26] <jud> histo: is that a command for accessing a how to in terminal?
[15:26] <PeterNL> I'm not going to compile my own, and i'm not going to wait 5 months. KMS works (I installed .33 and xorg-edgers) but I need .34 for even more fixes...
[15:26] <theadmin> clone4ubuntu: lshw is quite alike with that
[15:26] <jud> ubottu: thanks
[15:27] <histo> jud: no I was having ubottu send you a link
[15:27] <acicula> PeterNL, if you wont compile your own you'll have to wait for someone else to package it for you
[15:27] <Chuck27> What happened to my buttons at the top like whois can i get them back?
[15:27] <jessica_> ok so now, its deleted my menu items
[15:27] <clone4ubuntu> thanks bot u just got booted
[15:27] <hidensoft> anybody know , syntax highlighter for opensoffice ?
[15:27] <PeterNL> acicula: so I'm asking if that will happen (before 10.10), an where I could fine that.
[15:28] <PeterNL> find*
[15:28] <jud> histo: ah that's funny
[15:28] <theadmin> PeterNL: Very unlikely that it even will.
[15:28] <theadmin> PeterNL: Sorry.
[15:28] <jud> histo: thanks
[15:28] <phonic> did you delete them in the subfolder or the main one?
[15:28] <acicula> PeterNL, people can make their own packages (PPA) similar to xorg-edgers, dunno if anyone will for jaunty, given that its eol in 5 months
[15:28] <onetinsoldier> PeterNL: check the kernel ppa
[15:28] <theadmin> acicula: It is? o_O
[15:28] <acicula> 18 months
[15:28] <theadmin> acicula: Man, how fast time goes...
[15:28] <acicula> for standard desktop
[15:29] <PeterNL> onetinsoldier: they only have RC's for lucid. No the final for Jaunty...
[15:29] <jessica_> is there a way to reset the menu back to normal
[15:29] <jessica_> revert isnt working
[15:29] <theadmin> jessica_: What menu?
[15:29] <sanousy> where I can find a way to learn python, it is strange!
[15:29] <RemunJ66> Burning a cd-rw  with Brasero 2.28.2 is possible but starting a new DVD project and adding some video files is not possible. It says: ¨ Please replace the disc with a supported CD or DVD. It is not possible to write with the current set of plugins.¨
[15:29] <jessica_> main menu, games
[15:29] <theadmin> ubottu: resetpanels | jessica_
[15:29] <onetinsoldier> PeterNL: roger. then if you're wanting it now, you'd have to compile you're own
[15:29] <Faithful> Where did inittab go in Lucid
[15:30] <sipior> sanousy: http://diveintopython.org/
[15:30] <theadmin> Faithful: sysvinit is replaced by Upstart
[15:30] <theadmin> ubottu: Upstart
[15:30] <theadmin> Faithful: ^
[15:30] <Bisu[Shield]> anyone know how to open port 3306 ?
[15:30] <ikonia> Bisu[Shield]: it's already open by default if something is listening on that port
[15:31] <sanousy> sipior: thanks.
[15:31] <[tla]> Hi.  Installed Lucid with LVM.  I have a logical volume "data" (ext4).  Have added a blank HD (/dev/sdb) and now want to extend the logical volume "data" to include the extra space.  Think I am missing a step as the volume size has not increased.  Help please!  I ran: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 (to trash the partition table), pvcreate /dev/sdb (add the disk to LVM), vgextend...
[15:31] <[tla]> ...s3 /dev/sdb (add the disk to the logical volume), lvextend /dev/s3/data /dev/sdb (extend the logical volume)
[15:31] <PeterNL> onetinsoldier: ... Not liking this... I've had grapics problem with any version of any OS and with any version of any driver (really) since I bought this beast. Does nobody care about this? (answer: appearantly not...)
[15:31] <acicula> Bisu[Shield], suudo ufw allow 22/tcp
[15:31] <helpnoob> how do I change the groups for a mount drives users
[15:31] <acicula> err 3306/tcp
[15:31] <theadmin> PeterNL: ...how long ago have you last used a Microsoft product? :D They care even less.
[15:32] <histo> helpnoob: edit the /etc/group file on the mounted drive
[15:32] <PeterNL> The official Catalyst drivers on XP gave me plenty of BSOD's. I know...
[15:32] <onetinsoldier> PeterNL: well other people probably aren't going to care about it as much as you do ;-)
[15:32] <hidensoft> any body can help me for using syntax highlighter in open office ?
[15:33] <acicula> PeterNL, this is a support channel, if you have glitches try upgrading to a newer ubuntu release rather then backporting new stuff into an old system?
[15:33] <Jasxonx> Pici, ??? what did u do to the room? i god kicked???
[15:33] <SystemParadox> hi. How can I boot an ubuntu 10 CD into single user mode (or other fast-booting console mode)? There's no grub menu anymore?
[15:33] <onetinsoldier> PeterNL: but, you've had grapics problem with any version of any OS and with any version of any driver (really) since you bought the machine? seems like something might be wrong with it!
[15:33] <histo> SystemParadox: hold shift
[15:33] <RemunJ66> Just brasero burning capabilities by default install with Karmic tehadmin, sorry :)
[15:33] <rizzuh> PeterNL, ATI? ATI's drivers are known to be crap.
[15:33] <PeterNL> I don't have the drive space to do a clean install,m and i've had many problems in ten past with upgrades...
[15:33] <dancek> [tla], you've only resized the partition that the filesystem lies on, not the actual filesystem yet
[15:33] <Jasxonx> Hey a dutchman!  @ PeterNL
[15:34] <theadmin> RemunJ66: Use gnomebaker and forget about those problems :/
[15:34] <[tla]> dancek: ok, clue please ;)
[15:34] <PeterNL> onetinsoldier, rizzuh: It were mostly driver problems (and a cooling problem, but I fixed that)
[15:34] <dancek> [tla], i'm not on linux right now so can't check but theres something like e2fsresize
[15:35] <PeterNL> Jasxonx: yep. Hup Holland Hup :D :O :P ;)
[15:35] <[tla]> dancek: ah, i thought lvextend did that magic
[15:35] <shomon> hi, is there a channel for lastfm rhythmbox plugin bugs?
[15:35] <[tla]> dancek: resize2fs is a command
[15:35] <Slart> SystemParadox: not sure if the earlier boot cds allowed you to boot to a plain command line.. or did they
[15:36] <theadmin> shomon: Report em to Launchpad and may peace be with you.
[15:36] <dancek> [tla], yep... they're separate entities, which really is a little unintuitive
[15:36] <linxeh> I need to have a directory that will contain between 250,000 and 1,000,000 subdirectories. what filesystem should I be looking at using? reiserfs ?
[15:36] <Arabus> im looking for a tool to edit pdf files. i just wnat to make notes in it - i remember using it before ... starts with an X...
[15:36] <[tla]> dancek: what is the device i run that command on?
[15:37] <linxeh> Arabus: xpdf ?
[15:37] <visof> can't i make a launcher for child process?
[15:37] <Arabus> linxeh: nope ... you could open pdfs with it then use all kinds of colors and pen sizes and edit it then export it again...
[15:37] <dancek> [tla], iirc the logical volume, but you're definitely better reading a howto (it'se been 2 years since i last did this)
[15:37] <Slart> Arabus: Xournal perhaps?
[15:37] <Arabus> linxeh: it as mainly used with touchscreen laptops with a pen if i remember right
[15:38] <Arabus> Slart: yep thats the one1 tthanks alot
[15:38] <[tla]> dancek: ok.  i have read quite a few and many seems to be out of date / inconsistent :(
[15:38] <dancek> [tla], i think i've used this as reference: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html
[15:39] <facsimile> how come I could boot ubuntu 9.10 but not 10.4?
[15:39] <richthegeek> hey, anyone got experience with breaking/testing passworded RAR files - I have a bunch (200) of possible passwords, but can't think of an easy/fast way to test them against the file...
[15:39] <theadmin> When I print "to file", does that go trough CUPS?
[15:39] <facsimile> after installing
[15:39] <boolean> morning
[15:39] <theadmin> richthegeek: We can't help with hacking.
[15:40] <boolean> question: does anyone know the limitation of a 128 byte inode versus that of 256 ?
[15:40] <facsimile> theadmin ?? cracking
[15:40] <dancek> [tla], just in case i wanna mention that the filesystem _must_ be unmounted
[15:40] <richthegeek> theadmin: not hacking, educational purposes
[15:40] <facsimile> not hacking. cracking
[15:40] <histo> richthegeek: there are apps for doing that
[15:40] <dancek> [tla], (reiserfs could be resized while mounted, but i'm not sure how safe it is either)
[15:40] <richthegeek> theadmin: that is, it's not a commercial file or anything, just a friend wanted to see if I could and gave me a few clues for what hte password might be (names of classmates etc)
[15:40] <SystemParadox> thanks histo
[15:40] <histo> richthegeek: I'd look to backtrack distro for some clues as to what apps they have present
[15:41] <Faithful> mate... plymouth is required for X in ubuntu... where is this thing going...?
[15:41] <Faithful> Lucid that is
[15:41] <theadmin> richthegeek: However, I suppose that "for p in 'cat passwordlist.file' ; do unrar -p $p ; done" (or something. I don't remember how you specify a password for unrar. But I guess that'd work)
[15:41] <vAd0r> is there a way to log a user into the gui from an ssh session
[15:41] <richthegeek> theadmin: ok - will it return a non-zero value if the password is incorrect?
[15:41] <PeterNL> Damn ATi. Damn kernel. Damn world!
[15:41] <acicula> richthegeek, theadmin there are some gpu accelerated tools that let you test that sort of thing.
[15:41] <[tla]> dancek: Resizing the filesystem on /dev/s3/data to 580887552 (4k) blocks. :)
[15:41] <marienz> theadmin: print "to file" in gtk-based apps does not use cups, iirc.
[15:42] <dancek> [tla], good! :)
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> vAd0r:  why are you wantoing to do that?
[15:42] <[tla]> dancek: had to run 'e2fsck -f /dev/s3/data' first.
[15:42] <vAd0r> i have an ubuntu box next to me w/o a keyboard and mouse
[15:42] <vAd0r> and i want to startup synergy
[15:43] <vAd0r> i can start synergy from cli but i think user must be logged in
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> vAd0r:   the machine is on the desktop now? or on GDM?
[15:43] <sigmonsays> Why is landscape a paid feature and why is it enabled by default?
[15:43] <sigmonsays> Also why does it hang when being unisntaled?
[15:43] <vAd0r> login screen
[15:43] <sigmonsays> stupid annoying thing
[15:43] <histo> vAd0r: is the machine running ssh?
[15:43] <vAd0r> yup
[15:43] <histo> vAd0r: then whats the problem?
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> vAd0r:  i recall some way to make GDM start synergy.  that would be the best bet I think
[15:43] <Megrem> why does this line: ftptest=$(ftpwho | grep idle) only put the first line of the ouput into ftptest?
[15:44] <vAd0r> i want to be able to  start synergy so i can use it
[15:44] <guntbert> vAd0r: you can call ssh -X .... (its a big X), and then start any graphical app - it will display on your computer (try with xeyes...)
[15:44] <vAd0r> i was hoping to start synergy and then drag my mouse over and use it
[15:44] <dancek> [tla], if you feel there was no good documentation on how to do this, you might consider writing what you learned to ubuntu wiki (just a thought, and i dunno about wiki policy)
[15:44] <histo> vAd0r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> guntbert:  synergy is special in some ways however
[15:45] <guntbert> Dr_Willis: ok - no idea :)
[15:45] <vAd0r> thanks ill read the autostart before gdm
[15:45] <[tla]> dancek: good idea.  Looks good anyway: /dev/mapper/s3-data   2.2T  241G  1.8T  12% /data
[15:45] <Faithful> if I try to uninstall plymouth... it wants to uninstall X and every X app.
[15:46] <[tla]> dancek: thx 4 help
[15:46] <Pici> Faithful: plymouth is required for your computer to boot and mount devices in Ubuntu. Why do you want to get rid of it?
[15:46] <RemunJ66> theadmin: Use gnomebaker is not exactly fixing the Brasero problem, is it? why not helping fixing a promising tool like Brasero?
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> Faithful:  you basically cant uninstall plymouth
[15:46] <dancek> [tla], glad i could help :)
[15:46] <Faithful> What doo doo
[15:47] <Faithful> I don't want a graphical bootloader... it doesn't work with my notebook...
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> theres guides out on various ways to disable it to  achive some goals..
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> I basically have a text based login. by diabling the service and some grub options
[15:47] <vAd0r> how do i check which is running gdm or kdm
[15:48] <Faithful> If fsck finds an error I can't fix it
[15:48] <barberan> how do I integrate MS AD with my Ubuntu ?
[15:48] <gspr> When packaging with CDBS, what is the preferred way to control the building of multiple binary packages from the same source when each of these require different arguments to the configure script? Which rules should I override?
[15:48] <Cayzer> hello
[15:48] <bastid_raZor> vAd0r: ps aux| grep gdm .. ps aux | grep kdm
[15:49] <barberan> how do I work with .rar archives ?
[15:49] <bastid_raZor> !rar | barberan
[15:49] <Cayzer> Salut
[15:49] <richthegeek> theadmin, acicula: thanks, got a loop running on it now, checking for the return $? ostensibly but mostly keeping an eye out for a value that didn't say "CRC failed"... bleedin challenges. Time to break out the sha1 in revenge!
[15:49] <Cayzer> quelqun est sous lubuntu ?
[15:49] <ema92> Hello everybody, could please anyone sugget me a programme for GNOME to keep track of the CPU temperature?
[15:49] <erUSUL> !fr | Cayzer
[15:50] <Cayzer> ah okay sorry
[15:50] <bastid_raZor> ema92: conky
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> barberan:  install the proper rar packages and the normal acrhive tools can use rar's then
[15:50] <ema92> bastid_raZor: thank you
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> !info rar-nonfree
[15:50] <Faithful> vAd0r, did anyone answer you?
[15:50] <vAd0r> yeah
[15:50] <vAd0r> the ps worked
[15:50] <vAd0r> thanks alot
[15:52] <shohan> try sudo apt-get install rar
[15:53] <richthegeek> barberan: the archive manager can handle them if you install package "unrar" - probably best creating either tar.gz or zip when you are writing, as winrar handles both
[15:53] <Peager> What's everyone's favorite VPN client?
[15:53] <ccmonster> cisco vpn :)
[15:53] <barberan> thank you
[15:54] <Peager> Under Linix?
[15:54] <compaq> How do I go about changing my sources to install some karmic packages?
[15:54] <guntbert> !poll | Peager
[15:54] <jud> ubottu: what do you know?
[15:54] <Kentrel> How do I found out how big my swap file size is?
[15:54]  * leetsweden is not playing anything in iTunes.
[15:55] <bastid_raZor> compaq: you'll probably end up with dependency issues and/or break things
[15:55] <Peager> Sorry.... no offense... new user....
[15:55] <jud> ubottu: commands
[15:55] <guntbert> !askthebot | jud
[15:55] <bastid_raZor> !factoid > jud
[15:55] <compaq> bastid_raZor, I am gonna give it a try before I go buy a new video card, because I have a black listed on, and with 10.04 you can't bypass it, but you can with karmic
[15:56] <jud> cheers guys
[15:56] <compaq> bastid_raZor, I am talking about compiz, blacklisted my video card, so I wanna see if I bypass it, if it works ok
[15:57] <bastid_raZor> compaq: the guys in #compiz know some neat tricks with getting compiz working..
[15:58] <tux__> hi
[15:58] <compaq> bastid_raZor, I am there too, but I can't ask them about ubuntu issue of changing sources
[15:59] <histo> compaq: what do you mean by bypass it?
[15:59] <bastid_raZor> compaq: you have an extremely high probability of breaking things by doing so.
[16:00] <nemo> Anyone here trying to run ubuntu under VMware? looking for clues to working around https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/276476
[16:00] <nemo> which makes ubuntu basically unusable
[16:00] <compaq> bastid_raZor, I heard you the first time, do you know how to install Karmic packages on Lucid?
[16:01] <Inviscr> hey
[16:01] <compaq> histo, there is a command, it bypasses the black list, one sec let me look it up again
[16:01] <Kentrel> nemo, what about under Virtualbox?
[16:01] <nemo> Kentrel: gosh that'd be lovely.
[16:01] <compaq> histo,  SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz
[16:01] <Inviscr> how do i fix this error "render error detected, EIR: 0x00000010"
[16:01] <nemo> Kentrel: except, well, our entire system here is built around ESXi 4
[16:01] <Kentrel> oh
[16:01] <nemo> so I can't just recommend they redo the architecture
[16:02] <dcart185> hi everyone
[16:02] <meway> Inviscr is that durring boot?
[16:02] <Chuck27> any body on 10.4
[16:02] <dcart185> i have 10.04
[16:02] <sh1ny> me too, on it atm
[16:02] <Inviscr> meway ya
[16:02] <blackratdog> ten four good buddy
[16:03] <gnugr> to config compiz get a compiz-manager or Screenlets
[16:03] <Chuck27> anyway to make it run faster?
[16:03] <daveWilky> i have 10.04 plus studio packs.
[16:03] <dcart185> although, i do have a problem with it at the moment, randomly it would freeze and i can't figure out why
[16:03] <Inviscr> i put it in old graphic card to see if it still worked, and after i removed it this is what i now get
[16:03] <Kentrel> 10.04 runs fast on my system
[16:03] <Kentrel> And I'm only dual core
[16:03] <histo> compaq: I have no idea what you are talking about SKIP_CHECKS is not a command. Most likely a setting. Maybe if you describe the problem you are having or what you are trying to accomplish someone can help.
[16:03] <meway> Inviscr i think i read something on that one sec
[16:04] <daveWilky> 10.04 runs great on my 64bit system..
[16:04] <histo> dcart185: did you have 9.10 previously?
[16:04] <Inviscr> thnx
[16:04] <compaq> histo, yeah, wierd, it doesn't look like a command, but it is, I ran it, it restarts compiz, with that setting
[16:04] <dcart185> histo: yes
[16:04] <histo> compaq: where are you running it?
[16:04] <compaq> histo, anyway, I am trying to install karmic packages on lucid.
[16:04] <compaq> histo, bash
[16:05] <histo> compaq: I don't think anyone here is going to be able to help with that.
[16:05] <histo> compaq: it will break stuff
[16:05] <dcart185> histo: yeah i did an upgrade from 9.10 without downloading the cds
[16:05] <barberan> How to disable RECENT documents to log my recent docs ?
[16:05] <histo> dcart185: did you have the lockups with 9.10
[16:06] <dcart185> histo: no
[16:06] <compaq> huh, I am just gonna change the name in source.list and update, it is the long way but if no one knows a shortcut
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> compaq:  SKIP_CHECKS is not a command.. you are setting a enviroment variable THEN that line runs compiz with tha variable set
[16:06] <histo> barberan: there is a gconf key you can edit can't remember. But if you search on the forums there are numerous posts
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> foo=100  echo foo
[16:06] <avg_guy> histo,  thanks for the gdm help this is my mainpc I am on  (helpnoob)
[16:07] <daveWilky> compaq i`m new to ubuntu and i know your going to break your system..
[16:07] <compaq> yeah, it is fine, this is a fresh install, I am willing to take the risk of breaking my system.  Jeeze
[16:08] <histo> avg_guy: did that work
[16:09] <avg_guy> histo,  yes it did  opened up the drive in sudo nautilus and was able to take me out of the nopassword group
[16:10] <Beyecixramd> how do i select the colors in Pidgin for the conversation window, and the users talking in it? (defaults are red for incoming, blue for outgoing)
[16:11] <histo> avg_guy: cool. Thats definately a critical bug. I would file a report that should not happen.
[16:11] <maco> Beyecixramd: dont believe you do
[16:11] <Beyecixramd> maco: what?
[16:11] <nukelacity> hey i have a problem with ubuntu 10.04.. i have a CD full of drum hit samples that works on my ubuntu 9.04 laptop.. but now im on my 10.04 desktop my cd just isnt found at all.. any ideas?
[16:12] <maco> Beyecixramd: i was answering your question
[16:13] <Chuck27> i get alot of erors when i update or download new stuff any help for me
[16:13] <Beyecixramd> maco: i never said i did
[16:13] <maco> Beyecixramd: you asked "how do i...?" and my answer is "you don't"
[16:13] <onetinsoldier> Chuck27: use pastebin to post your errors for people to see. helps to see exact error messages
[16:14] <avg_guy> histo,  well since i had the my home dir encrypted as well so with out auth( using password) i couldnt get anywhere
[16:14] <nukelacity> hey i have a problem with ubuntu 10.04.. i have a CD full of drum hit samples that works on my ubuntu 9.04 laptop.. but now im on my 10.04 desktop my cd just isnt found at all.. any ideas?
[16:14] <Beyecixramd> maco: oooh, okay, i get it now, xD thanks
[16:14] <maco> Beyecixramd: you could of course find what part of pidgin's source code sets those colours and modify it yoursel
[16:14] <maco> *yourself
[16:14] <histo> avg_guy: yeah but you shouldn't be able to check that box if your home is encrypted
[16:14] <nukelacity> my cd drive light is flashing as if its trying to do something but its been flashing for about half an hour
[16:14] <Beyecixramd> maco: yeah, i was thinking about that
[16:15] <avg_guy> histo, true
[16:15] <Beyecixramd> maco: they probably have coded the colors in HTML, so all i have to do is find the codes
[16:15] <maco> Beyecixramd: right
[16:15] <JabberWalkie> so, it seems that I am getting segfaults when running e2fsck, it uses about 10GB of swap then segfaults, always in the same place. (appears that way anyways)
[16:15] <JabberWalkie> I am using the newest version aswell
[16:16] <nukelacity> no one?
[16:16] <JabberWalkie> nukelacity, its broken?
[16:16] <JabberWalkie> nukelacity, mybe it is an error code or somthing?
[16:16] <JabberWalkie> nukelacity, check your user manual
[16:16] <hairi> can someone help me with my ubuntu ?
[16:16] <nukelacity> no some CDs work and others dont.. i have another CD drive i wouldnt mind replacing it with but when i use it it opens and closes randomly.. if you can give me a fix for that ill install the drive xD
[16:17] <Chuck27> E: libgnome-desktop-2-17: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[16:17] <Chuck27> E: nautilus: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[16:17] <Chuck27> E: gnome-settings-daemon: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[16:17] <Chuck27> E: libgnome-window-settings1: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[16:17] <Chuck27> E: compiz-gnome: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[16:17] <FloodBot2> Chuck27: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:17] <Chuck27> E: gnome-control-center: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[16:17] <IdleOne> hairi: ask and someone will try
[16:17] <andron> what with your ubuntu?)
[16:17] <nukelacity> no some CDs work and others dont.. i have another CD drive i wouldnt mind replacing it with but when i use it it opens and closes randomly.. if you can give me a fix for that ill install the drive xD (just incase the flood stopped you reding it)
[16:17] <nukelacity> reading*
[16:18] <hairi> when i restart my computer  all that i vave done before restarting is gone
[16:18] <Chuck27> any help
[16:18] <JabberWalkie> nukelacity, dunno, see how it behaves under a live cd
[16:18] <benkevan> does anyone know how to setup openbox to send me to native desktop when someone is clicked in the taskbar?
[16:18] <JabberWalkie> nukelacity, if it is the same, it is probably broken in some manner
[16:18] <nukelacity> it works fine under live CD i onl.y installed a few weeks ago lol
[16:19] <raymondjtoth> how i change the defrault exty4 back to older ext3 that was in ubunu 8.10?
[16:19] <nostriluu> any idea why a simple perl script would fail on ubuntu  but works fine on other linuxes ? seems to be a file operation problem
[16:19] <raymondjtoth> my hard ware dont like ext4 in dell e1505 notbook
[16:19] <raymondjtoth> i instralled ubuntu all ready
[16:19] <linxeh> nostriluu: permissions, different version of perl, alsorts of things. you'll need to pastebin the output of the script (and ideally the script itself)
[16:19] <raymondjtoth> !ext3
[16:19] <acicula> raymondjtoth, you can not downgrade a filesystem
[16:19] <ksbalaji> While Booting 8.04, Gnome panel used to run automatically. Now for the past 6 months or so, most of the time, I have to do ctrl+alt+f7 to see my panel. Help.
[16:19] <acicula> raymondjtoth, if you want to revert to ext3 you have to wipe and reinstall
[16:19] <raymondjtoth> acicula what i do now if want that?
[16:20] <dcart185> histo: do you have an idea what my problem is?
[16:20] <raymondjtoth> !ray ext3
[16:20] <nukelacity> JabberWalkie:.. ill log off now and install the other DVD drive and see how it goes.. ill be back in a bit  thanks :)
[16:20] <raymondjtoth> acicula, what i do if do do that
[16:20] <X4me1eoH> hi! who know russian chanell about ubuntu?
[16:20] <llutz> !ru
[16:20] <hairi> why is it that i cannot save anything on my ubuntu (10.04 on my usb) when i restart my computer ?
[16:21] <raymondjtoth> once install ubuntu agen
[16:21] <demon> gfhd
[16:21] <acicula> raymondjtoth, during the ubuntu installation when asked to partition you have to choose manual partition and select ext3
[16:21] <Inviscr> hdoes anyone know how to fix this error "drm:[i915_handle_error] *error* EIR stuck: 0x000000, masking"
[16:21] <acicula> raymondjtoth, why do you think ext4 is not agreeing with your laptop
[16:21] <raymondjtoth> acicula i wnat to use all of the drive also can i do that
[16:21] <acicula> raymondjtoth, yeah
[16:21] <raymondjtoth> acixula it slow my laptop down my dell e1505
[16:22] <raymondjtoth> to were it crawls with intel graphic card
[16:22] <acicula> why do you think the filesystem is the cause of that?
[16:22] <daveWilky> raymondjtoth do you go in PCTech in paltalk?
[16:22] <raymondjtoth> daveWilky,  why ask yes i do
[16:22] <dcart185> does anyone know why 10.04 keeps freezing?
[16:23] <dcart185> also very random
[16:23] <daveWilky> i just recall the name, i also use PCTech...
[16:23] <raymondjtoth> dave never seen you there
[16:23] <acicula> raymondjtoth, slow gfx performance seems unrelated to the filesystem that is in use, reverting to ext3 seems unlikely to solve whatever problem you appear to be encountering
[16:24] <raymondjtoth> acicula, ok what then i do
[16:24] <daveWilky> you would see me under the name CaptinDave.
[16:24] <raymondjtoth> i have intel centrino due proceor and intel graphic card and built in wireless
[16:25] <raymondjtoth> daveWilky, i know you as admin
[16:25] <acicula> what ubuntu version are you using?
[16:25] <raymondjtoth> acicula,  9.10 for now
[16:25] <raymondjtoth> since ubuntu christan based off it
[16:25] <raymondjtoth> havent updated yet
[16:26] <daveWilky> Ray its been some months since i was last in, But its good to see a name from the room ...
[16:26] <JabberWalkie> ubuntu christian!??
[16:26] <raymondjtoth> daveWilky, o ok
[16:26] <acicula> try 10.04 i suppose, laggy gfx performance crops up every now and then, dont have a solution for that myself, but look on the ubuntuforums?
[16:26] <raymondjtoth> JabberWalkie,  yes]
[16:26] <Inviscr> anybody
[16:26] <desynch> does anyone knows what's the prob on backtrack-linux channel?
[16:26] <raymondjtoth> acicula,  i did it didnt help
[16:27] <linxeh> I need to have a directory that will contain between 250,000 and 1,000,000 subdirectories - what filesystem should I be looking at using?
[16:27] <warriorforgod> desynch: What do you mean?
[16:27] <raymondjtoth> acicula,  how i fix this?
[16:27] <desynch> can you join on the channel?
[16:27] <desynch> i can't join on it
[16:27] <acicula> desynch, you need to be registered and identified to the server
[16:27] <maco> !register | desynch
[16:27] <hairi> when i restart my computer all the things that i have done before restarting is gone
[16:27] <hairi>  for example i turn sound to mute but when i restart the sound is back on again
[16:27] <hairi>  and i download gfortran but when i restart  it is gone its like  my ubuntu went back to when i first install it when i restart my computer
[16:27] <acicula> laggy gfx performance crops up every now and then,i dont have a solution for that myself, but look on the ubuntuforums?
[16:28] <G__81> in 10.04 there were 3 new themes that were introduced which does not appear in the standard installations
[16:28] <desynch> maco im registered
[16:28] <figo7kabwe> slt
[16:28] <figo7kabwe> comment allez vous
[16:28] <G__81> can someone tell me where i could download and install it from ? i believe there was a PPA too for it
[16:28] <maco> desynch: are you identified as well?
[16:28] <maco> !fr | figo7kabwe
[16:28] <desynch> yes
[16:28] <Anarhist> hairi, are you sure you don't have live cd in the cdrom?
[16:28] <Pici> desynch: They appear to have banned anyone with 'root' in their ident.
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> hairi:  and how did you install ubuntu?  inside windows? unetbootin? bootable usb flash?
[16:28] <desynch> i see
[16:28] <desynch> oks
[16:28] <maco> Pici: wait, and we dont?
[16:28] <Pici> maco: correct.
[16:29] <maco> Pici: did we used to?
[16:29] <raymondjtoth> what i do?
[16:29] <hairi> unetbootin
[16:29] <G__81> can someone tell me the PPA?
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> G__81:  check the 'omgubuntu' and 'webupd8' ubuntu sites. they had articals on installing those in older ubuntu releases
[16:29] <acicula> maco there is little need, youd have to do weird things to connect as root, unlike with backtrack where being root was (is?) the default
[16:29] <hairi> i install ubuntu 10.04 to my  8Gb usb
[16:29] <ksbalaji> Why do I have to key ctrl+alt+f7 most time on booting to get gnome display?
[16:29] <barry_> hairi: Yoou are trying to save changes to a .iso file that is booted o a USB. This will not save any changes you make. Its the same as trying to save to a burnt cd
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> hairi:  if you used unetbootin to install to a 'hard drive' it did a live cd type install to the hard drive. not a 'normal' install.
[16:29] <raymondjtoth> acicula,  what new in ubuntu 10.4
[16:30] <hairi> what should i do ?
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> hairi:  do a proper install.
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> hairi:  use unetbootin to make a bootable flash drive and install from that.
[16:30] <hairi> is there a manual for proper install?
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> hairi:  burn  cd, or make flash drive.. boot it.. tell it to install.. follow the 7 steps..
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> !manual | hairi
[16:31] <raymondjtoth> Dr_Willis,  whats new in ubuntu 10.4
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> raymondjtoth:  everything...
[16:31] <IdleOne> 10.04
[16:31] <dcart185> is everybody finding 10.04 stable?
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> raymondjtoth:  theres several web sites tat review it and give their oponions/'whats new' type articals.
[16:32] <dcart185> like no freezes?
[16:32] <IdleOne> dcart185: for me, yes
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> dcart185:  no issues on my 3 machines
[16:32] <daveWilky> 10.04 is very stable for me .
[16:32] <dcart185> did you upgrade from 9.10 or did you install from cd?
[16:32] <ksbalaji> where do I get info on gnome display booting problem please?
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> dcart185:  yes. to both
[16:32] <IdleOne> dcart185: I did noth
[16:32] <IdleOne> both
[16:32] <dcart185> hmm
[16:32] <dcart185> thanks
[16:34] <RedNifreHaikuA2> tt
[16:34] <RedNifreHaikuA2> ?
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> RedNifreHaikuA2: ? Is ther a ubuntu support question?
[16:35] <xand_> hello everyone, is there a way to list all the packages which have more than one version available ?
[16:35] <RedNifreHaikuA2> Nope, just needed to see if the chat is working. Looked like the channel was dead. And there was this weird keyboard issue...
[16:35] <ozerimar> ok i reloaded the operating system anyway to get back to my original settings????
[16:35] <Faithful> How can I turn my VTs back on in Lucid?
[16:35] <RedNifreHaikuA2> Now that you ask, I actually DO have an Ubuntu question.
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> too late... :P
[16:36] <RedNifreHaikuA2> Is there a way to make my bluetooth keyboard work on the log in screen so I can enter my password?
[16:36] <kate_> is this like yahoo chat?
[16:36] <LzrdKing> it ubuntu pronounced "yoo-buntu" or "oo-buntu"?
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> kate_:  irc chat has been around for a great many more years then YahooChat. or other Im chats
[16:36] <Anarhist> 'oo-buntu'
[16:36] <bastid_raZor> kate_: no, this is ubuntu support channel
[16:36] <dcart185> im thinking about reinstalling ubuntu from a cd
[16:36] <kate_> ok.
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> !bluetooth
[16:36] <dcart185> because i can't trust my system from not crashing
[16:37] <LzrdKing> Anarhist: source?
[16:37] <bastid_raZor> kate_: you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[16:37] <kate_> i just wanted to see if i could make this work.
[16:37] <kate_> how?
[16:37] <wng-> Does anyone have any idea why I can't seem to get any sound from my Create Audigy SE (CA0106)
[16:37] <bastid_raZor> kate_: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:37] <Anarhist> LzrdKing, when you install it there's a video of Mandela explaining the definition
[16:37] <kate_> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:37] <IdleOne> kate_: with the /
[16:37] <bastid_raZor> kate_: type the / part too
[16:37] <kate_> oh
[16:37] <kate_> ok.
[16:37] <kate_> thank you
[16:37] <LzrdKing> Anarhist: i never saw that... i must have installed wrong
[16:37] <IdleOne> welcome
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> ITs in the examples dir i think
[16:38] <Jasxonx> kate_,  welcome
[16:39] <a94060> if i got a windows title bar stuck outside of the viewable screen,how can i move it back?
[16:39] <a94060> nevermind,answered
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> a94060:  hold down alt key, click, drag
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> alt+click anywhere  in a window to move it
[16:40] <a94060> ahh thanks,thats better. i used the right click on the icon then move
[16:40] <LzrdKing> a94060: alt-space, m i think, then use arrows
[16:40] <akashv> Dr_Willis: i was actually looking for that, so thanks
[16:40] <a94060> haha
[16:40] <dan_> How does software get into the Ubuntu repositories?
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> akashv:  thers a tool for windows - that addes the featre to the  M$ os's also
[16:40] <ikonia> dan_: it goes through a process of review and acceptence
[16:40] <akashv> Dr_Willis: ok
[16:41] <bullgard> dan_: Package maintainers load up packages to repositories.
[16:41] <dan_> How can you apply to get software into the repositories?
[16:41] <IdleOne> !packaging | dan_
[16:41] <ikonia> dan_: there are various repositories with various criteria, so it depends on a lot of things, what are you trying to get into the repos ?
[16:42] <bullgard> dan_: See for example the channel #ubuntu-motu and ask for details.
[16:42] <Jasxonx> dual botting Win7 and Ubuntu 10.04 what should i install first??
[16:42] <ikonia> Jasxonx: windows
[16:42] <maco> Jasxonx: windows
[16:42] <dan_> There is a game called Legends which I am shocked is not in the repos
[16:42] <dcart185> windoze
[16:42] <ikonia> dcart185: it's called "windows"
[16:42] <ksbalaji> I wish to upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04. Any special precautions? (unfortunately, I cannot backup all that I have in hard drive)
[16:43] <maco> dan_: check in debian. if there file a sync request. if not, file a needs-packaging bug
[16:43] <ikonia> !upgrade | ksbalaji
[16:43] <JabberWalkie> dan_ like the tribes clone?
[16:43] <dcart185> ikonia: i know, but i like my nickname
[16:43] <ikonia> dcart185: please call it by it's correct name
[16:43] <ksbalaji> thanks ikonia
[16:43] <dan_> I don't know tribes
[16:43] <bullgard> ksbalaji: To back up first and only then upgrade is your most important obligation.
[16:44] <JabberWalkie> dan_ yeah, ive played that, good game
[16:44] <Slart> dan_: is it free as in speech? or just as in beer?
[16:44] <ksbalaji> is upgrading dreadful without backup bullgard ?
[16:44] <Kentrel> How do I found out how big my swap file size is?
[16:44] <xabrx> Hi, tried to dual boot winxp & ubuntu on seperate partitions. Winxp was installed first. Now ubuntu will not boot. Stops with a blinking cursor in right corner. Any ideas?
[16:44] <Slart> dan_: I vaguely recall it only being the later
[16:44] <Anarhist> ksbalaji, if you haven't partitioned your home dir separately upgrading without backup is really dangerous
[16:44] <ikonia> Kentrel: swapon -s
[16:44] <Krow> HI all
[16:44] <Kentrel> thanks
[16:44] <Loshki> ksbalaji: some things are more important than others. Upgrades can and do go wrong. Is there anything you absolutely could not live without if the disk got wiped?
[16:44] <maco> ksbalaji: not really. upgrades should *never* touch /home
[16:45] <xand_> hello everyone, is there a way to list all the packages which have more than one version available ?
[16:45] <ksbalaji> Anarhist, hmm. Thanks. That is important.
[16:45] <bullgard> ksbalaji: As a rule, it is not. But just in case. You might loose valuable personal data.
[16:45] <blue_anna> hey I'm getting blocks for characters on some web pages -- how can I set up language support in Firefox ?
[16:45]  * maco only does backups when reinstalling
[16:45]  * maco is bad and should do them weekly at least
[16:45] <Krow> i like english channel cuz french channel is really empty....
[16:45] <aeon-ltd> maco: but it can render some machines unbootable
[16:45] <Anarhist> ksbalaji, just to be sure, i mean if you haven't already done so, during your 8.04 install
[16:45] <maco> aeon-ltd: which doesnt destroy your data
[16:46] <the_lord> is there a way to make pidgin the main app for messaging in 10.04 without losing the integration with ubuntu?
[16:46] <blue_anna> like for example '��' U+024B62 -- this doesnt render for me
[16:46] <ksbalaji> Loshki, Yes. some big chunks of data are important. But they are in a different partition.
[16:46] <aeon-ltd> maco: i know but its a pain in the ass to repartition then reinstall a distro again to access /home
[16:46] <Krow> The_lord , dowload emesene
[16:46] <maco> blue_anna: possibly your font is missing those characters?
[16:46] <Krow> I use  emesene on 1.04 and it works
[16:46] <Krow> 10.04*
[16:46] <maco> aeon-ltd: repartition? why?
[16:46] <the_lord> Krow, I don't want emesene, I want pidgin
[16:46] <maco> aeon-ltd: also, language
[16:47] <aeon-ltd> maco: move the /home partition (if it is in one) to the end and create a new partition in ext3/4 to install the distro again
[16:47] <maco> aeon-ltd: why?
[16:47] <aeon-ltd> of the table
[16:47] <blue_anna> maco: I'm in konversation now, and it might not -- but how do I tell firefox to use an appropriate font?  I have deja vu and liberation
[16:47] <Krow> Oh sorry the lord ^^
[16:47] <bastid_raZor> aeon-ltd: you wouldn't re-use existing partitions?
[16:47] <maco> blue_anna: edit -> preferences lets you set the fonts
[16:47] <aeon-ltd> maco: in case it isn't already at the end of the table
[16:48] <Krow> It was my opinion , i don't like pidgin
[16:48] <maco> aeon-ltd: why would it need to be? why would it even need to be on its own partition at all?
[16:48] <aeon-ltd> it makes it easier to separate root and home later
[16:48] <blue_anna> maco: have you seen the page for changing the fonts there? I dont even know where to start. there's like 50 different plaes to set a font
[16:48] <maco> aeon-ltd: keep in mind ubuntu has not deleted /home when reinstalling to a single-partition system in at least 2 years
[16:48] <Krow> the_lord , can u explain me what's ur problem?
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> (/boot)(/)(/home)(Swap) is how i normally have mine setuo
[16:49] <the_lord> Krow, i don't like emesene, and I'm the_lord
[16:49] <aeon-ltd> maco: its just for those who dual boot, makes it easier to manage
[16:49] <rosco_y> what package do I need to install to get the libgtkembedmoz.so library?
[16:49] <xabrx> Hi, tried to dual boot winxp & ubuntu on separate partitions. Winxp was installed first. Now ubuntu won't boot. Stops with a blinking cursor in the right corner. Any ideas?
[16:49] <blue_anna> maco: every code page has 4 different font settings
[16:49] <maco> blue_anna: code page?
[16:49] <the_lord> Krow, but If I just uninstall empathy and install pidgin, it should work, I guess
[16:50] <Pici> rosco_y: kompozer: /usr/lib/kompozer/libgtkembedmoz.so
[16:50] <rosco_y> xabrx: I wonder if you can set the boot partition in your bios
[16:50] <abstrakt> is there a backport of PHP 5.2 available for 10.04?
[16:50] <rosco_y> Pici: Thanks!
[16:50] <maco> blue_anna: edit -> preferences -> content has 1 dropdown. advanced lets you set monospace and sans and serif fonts as well if you like
[16:50] <pakete> hello
[16:50] <TheBase> Hello
[16:50] <Mandrew> anyone here that know how to ping a web site?
[16:50] <aeon-ltd> hello
[16:50] <blue_anna> maco: that setting is for the seriffont though -- what pages do you view in serif? :)
[16:51] <xabrx> ok, 'll have aa look
[16:51] <Anarhist> Mandrew, ping example.com
[16:51] <aeon-ltd> Mandrew: ping -c 10 (insert web address here or ip)
[16:51] <maco> blue_anna: advanced lets you set sans-serif and monospace
[16:51] <llutz> Mandrew: "ping <host>"
[16:51] <maco> blue_anna: an actually no, its not
[16:51] <blue_anna> maco: even setting the sans to deja vu I dont see that character -- deja vu is supposed to be a font for every character in unicode
[16:51] <maco> blue_anna: the single dropdown is just "default font" -- you can make your default be monospace or sans if you like
[16:51] <pakete> anybody knows how to fix plymouth? i have no boot splash
[16:51] <pakete> after install'
[16:52] <maco> blue_anna: possibly need to refresh the page after changing fonts?
[16:52] <blue_anna> maco: I mean it says "serif", and it is set bsed on whatever you set for the serif font for the page
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> pakete:  does the system actually boot up to the login screen?
[16:52] <blue_anna> maco: tried that :S -- this is on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8
[16:53] <Mandrew> anyone here that know how to ping a web site?? im a newbie with computers and with linux :( maybe a bad combo but thats what i got to work with ;)
[16:53] <JC_Denton_> hello all, im in recovery mode how can i set my drive from ronly to rw?
[16:53] <aeon-ltd> Mandrew: i just told you
[16:53] <costre> Mandrew, star terminal, type ping website.com
[16:53] <costre> start*
[16:53] <Mandrew> ok thanks
[16:54] <MaT-dg> how can I run a on startup with System > Preferences > startup applications?
[16:54] <Anarhist> Mandrew, to finish press Ctrl+C
[16:54] <moza> Hi, i have a strange problem with Skype. I can call and receive calls. I can receive text messages (apparently) but i can't send text messages through Skype. The bug appeared after the update from Hardy (LTS) to Lucid (LTS).
[16:54] <blue_anna> maco: yea, you'd think that would work, but it doesnt
[16:54] <c3l> how do I find what ID a a window has?
[16:54] <Mandrew> Anarch, tnx
[16:54] <Pici> c3l: run xwininfo and then click on that window
[16:55] <Mandrew> Anarhist, tnx
[16:55] <c3l> Pici: thanks
[16:55] <bastid_raZor> !startup > MaT-dg
[16:55] <JC_Denton_> in recovery mode, how can i mount my drive rw from ro?
[16:55] <pakete> Dr Willis, well only black screen and then it logs onto gnome
[16:55] <JC_Denton_> im in the maintenance shell
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> JC_Denton_:  theres a mount /bla /bla -o remount,rw  option I recall... (ive not used it in ages)
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> pakete:  i wouldent worry about it too much then. theres some sites out for 'fixing' various plymouth issues.. but  some times they break things worse
[16:56] <SealedWithAKiss> I have no audio output in Ubuntu 9.10. I have tried using a variety of applications and there is still no sound, so this problem isn't specific to a particular application. I have tried using the Ubuntu audio troubleshooting guide, and this hasn't solved my problem. This is not a hardware problem, as I have tried replacing the sound card the speakers and the audio cable connecting them. Can anybody help?
[16:56] <attish> hello! when I boot up a lucid live cd, gdu-notification-daemon crashes on an assertion; this seems to be bug #568565. I checked the source, and my impression is that something delays dbus initialization on certain machines, and this makes said daemon's attempts at connecting to it fail; could you give me some hints on how to go about diagnosing a bug that is so awkward to reproduce?
[16:57] <pakete> ok can you suggest one? also how to enable stand by on closing the lid?
[16:57] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, does lspci show your sound card?
[16:57] <MaT-dg> bastid_raZor: yes, I know. Problem is that my script doesn't run at startup.
[16:57] <SealedWithAKiss> I believe (although cannot be sure) that the loss of sound occurred after a system update.
[16:58] <phobbs> Hi, I accidentally set a keyboard shortcut using gconf-editor under root, but and now I can't change it even when I run sudo gconf-editor
[16:58] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc R700 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4000 Series]  -  this is my graphics card. I usually use my on board sound card for audio. Does this mean that it's routing the audio through my graphics card? I'm confused.
[16:58] <pakete> Dr Willis, please suggest one way or the other to fix plymouth from console. Also how to activate stand by on lid close. TIA
[16:59] <phobbs> it says "this key is not writable" under sudo gconf-editor... how is this possible?
[16:59] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, is this your only sound device? do you have maybe a motherboard integrated sound device?
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> pakete:  i would suggest leaving plymouth alone if the system boots.   I never use hibernate/suspend either - it just causes too  many problems.
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> !tab | pakete
[16:59] <attish> phobbs, do you use ubuntu netbook remix?
[16:59] <ozerimar> how do I revert back my old system
[17:00] <attish> ozerimar, the hard way -- downgrading is not officially supported, as far as I know
[17:00] <mtskvan> hello everyone What is the best freelance sites for C++ or Java projects?
[17:00] <aeon-ltd> ozerimar: there isn't a system restore in ubuntu, only backup solutions and dwongrade solutions
[17:00] <LzrdKing> there shoul dbe
[17:00] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, I have a sound card build onto the motherboard. I have always used this for sound. Lspci is listing my graphics card as my audio device, it doesn't handle audio though. It doesn't have any 3.5mm audio jacks on it.
[17:00] <bondiblueos9_> what filesystem should I use for my data drives if I want to be able to pull them out and plug them into my mac and also have files >4gb
[17:00] <ksbalaji> On upgrading, Will my applications list be lost? Say, I have openoffice 3.2, google chrome, kompozer, google earth and many more. I have removed some default  apps. which I never use
[17:00] <Loshki> mtskvan: please ask on #ubuntu-offtopic...
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> bondiblueos9_:  you may want to ask in the mac channel what linux type filesystems the macos supports.
[17:00] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, oh yes, very probably it emits sound through one of them HD video outputs (HDMI?)
[17:01] <aeon-ltd> LzrdKing: pointless since canonical isn't liable for all the things you install except the kernel, meta-packages and documentations. but yeah there should be a way to back up /home quickly and easily without rsync
[17:01] <pakete> how to enable malware protection after installing update kit?
[17:01] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, so lspci doesn't see the sound card you want to use?
[17:01] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, I don't use the HDMI output. I use my on board sound card for sound, which isn't working.
[17:01] <bondiblueos9_> Dr_Willis: I guess I was wondering how good the ubuntu support for hfs+ or ufs is
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> pakete:  what update-kit ? what malware?
[17:01] <ozerimar> my system crashed would not boot right so i did another install with live cd. I located my old files in /home  is there a way to get to the back that i made?
[17:01] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, no.
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> bondiblueos9_:  for hfs/hfs+ i think its readonly.. ie: proberly not good enough for your needs. I dont own a mac. i jsut see people asking in here about hfs all the time
[17:02] <fon_> I cannot use microphone  .
[17:02] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, is onboard audio enabled in BIOS?
[17:02] <pakete> it prompts via baloon in systray that i have malware protection disabled !
[17:02] <xand_> hello everyone, is there a way to list all the packages which have more than one version available ?
[17:02] <LzrdKing> aeon-ltd: or a system restore package
[17:02] <ozerimar> what does tmpv_x1ff  ?????  its a file thats locked with an x
[17:02] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, if no, I don't really have a clue why it doesn't show up on lspci's output
[17:03] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, yeah.
[17:03] <aeon-ltd> LzrdKing: you mean like 'time machine' or more like windows restore?
[17:03] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, what would the entry for an on board card look like?
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> pakete:  what does? ive never seen any malware tools at all on ubuntu.   what is this 'update kit' you are refering to?
[17:03] <ozerimar> it is telling me i do not have permission to view it
[17:03] <LzrdKing> aeon-ltd: whatever gets the job done
[17:03] <pakete> update-kit - the one you get for free after upgrading to lynx
[17:03] <aeon-ltd> LzrdKing: actually yeah how about a backup bootable iso version of your current setup
[17:03] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, it's there sorry. 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> pakete:  Hmm.. I think theres some confusion going on.
[17:04] <ozerimar> anybody?
[17:04] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, that's what I normally use. There's no sound though.
[17:04] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, now that's some good news; next thing to check is whether the module's there
[17:04] <StPiere> hello , how do i give all permissions to one folder ?
[17:04] <pakete> when you upgrade, you get an update kit which includes malware protection, but it is disabled for some reason DrWillis
[17:04] <ksbalaji> Does 10.04 full installation accept a different existing folder in another partition for /home?
[17:05] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, when I followed the troubleshooting guide, I discovered that the module was missing. We'll check again though, what's the command?
[17:05] <fosscon> hi, do you guys know of a simple two-user command-line chat for ubuntu?
[17:05] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: pakete has been asking about this for days. No-one seems to know what he's talking about. He's been kicked for it at least once...
[17:05] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, do an lsmod | grep hda
[17:05] <aeon-ltd> StPiere: i'm not sure but i think its sudo chmod -ax (folder), don't try without googling first
[17:05] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, we're looking for a snd_hda_intel
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> pakete:  You are confused. there is no such thing.  I suggest you do a reintall from a cd/iso from a regular ubuntu site.
[17:06] <ozerimar> TMPV_X1FF folder  with an x on it  It says i dont have permission rights/    How can i get permission to view the contents??
[17:06] <blue_anna> fosscon: talk
[17:06] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, returns no output.
[17:06] <fosscon> blue_anna, thank you
[17:06] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, then try sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[17:06] <Krow> can anyone tell me if i can make a dual boot with windows vista with an OEM CD , ( i am on lynx 10.04) ? and if there is a problem while the dual boot , can i boot on the live CD of linux?
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> pakete:  if you really want help on the issue. make a video shot/screen shots of the tool and your screen/dialogs
[17:06] <fosscon> do you know where can I see its source code?
[17:06] <blue_anna> fosscon: its not installed by default any more :S its way old, let me see if I can find info on it
[17:06] <mernilio> hi all!
[17:06] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.31-20-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[17:06] <attish> ozerimar, do an ls -ld followed by folder name (respecting case)
[17:06] <fosscon> ok
[17:07] <ozerimar> in the console?  im in gnome
[17:07] <pakete> ok i don't mind systray weather balloon, but i do mind about plymouth failure after install...Booting from usb stick has no problems by the way...which is sad...i tried sudo -s plymouth --reconfigure but it give an erroe of non existing command
[17:07] <blue_anna> fosscon: its in package inetutils-talk
[17:07] <fosscon> ok
[17:07] <fosscon> I need the source code too
[17:07] <Krow>   /nick an
[17:07] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, please do a uname -a, and then an ls /lib/modules
[17:07] <Krow> oups sorry ><
[17:07] <fosscon> is the source there too, blue_anna ?
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> pakete:  where did you even get that plymouth command from?
[17:08] <Kentrel> !info textreader
[17:08] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, it seems that for some reason, you don't have the kernel modules where they should be
[17:08] <blue_anna> fosscon: Im not sure, I'd guess you can -d source or whatever -- do you need the chat utility or do you need to write one?
[17:08] <Kentrel> Anyone know a good customizable text to speech reader with lots of features?
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> pakete:  if your bvideo card is one of the ones that plymouth cant handle. then it cant handle it..
[17:08] <fosscon> I need the chat utility and its source (to see how it was done) :)
[17:08] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, Linux michael-desktop 2.6.31-20-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 04:38:19 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux (uname -a)
[17:08] <fosscon> to understand it
[17:08] <attish> ozerimar, for that, get a terminal; alt-f2, enter "gnome-terminal", then click OK
[17:08] <blue_anna> fosscon: writing one isnt that bad usually, at the example level
[17:08] <pakete> someone said once i probably forgot its full text...video card is fine when you boot live from usb stick
[17:09] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, 2.6.31-14-generic  2.6.31-21-generic (ls /lib/modules)
[17:09] <fosscon> hmmm
[17:09] <fosscon> well, I need to write one
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> pakete:  http://delicious.com/dr_willis/plymouth  check the various links I guess..
[17:09] <pakete> including plymouth. as soon as you install on hard drive plymouth fails...
[17:09] <fosscon> so I thought that I could use talk as a guideline
[17:09] <Beyecixramd> pakete, Dr_Willis: in fact, there is a way to fool Plymouth to run in non-supported cards. Just add vga=(resolution here) check framebuffer resolutions on internet
[17:09] <caravel> Hi there
[17:09] <bondiblueos9> is there any software I can install that would give me a key combination I could hit and it would interupt everything that was happening and drop me to some sort of basic terminal?
[17:10] <Loshki> fosscon: apt-get source inetutils-talk should install the source code into the current directory, if your repos are set up for source code...
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> Beyecixramd:  i had vga= here made my consoles totally unreadable.. :)
[17:10] <pakete> thx
[17:10] <attish> fosscon, it's as easy as apt-get source inetutils-talk, but I'm sure there's some kind of tutorial out there for this kind of thing, the complete source of talk may be complicated
[17:10] <thekcd> to the ttys?
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> Beyecixramd:  it could of been a wrong res i guess.. but the text was showing up as goofed up pixles.
[17:10] <Beyecixramd> Dr_Willis: depends on what did you actually put in the res :) it's a number
[17:10] <thekcd> ctrl+alt+f4 ?
[17:10] <irc> * IRC.exe has encountered an exception in module 0843:154905. To solve the problem, hit Alt+F4
[17:10] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, that's right, you don't have the modules for your kernel
[17:10] <caravel> bondiblueos9: Ctrl+Alt+F1 ? ;-)
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> I will stick with just diabling plymouth
[17:10] <Beyecixramd> Dr_Willis: yep, i think it's a wrong res you got
[17:10] <fosscon> hmmm
[17:10] <fosscon> let me try
[17:10] <adriana> ciao
[17:10] <attish> bondiblueos9, umm try tilde, or something called like that
[17:11] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, this means downloading and installing them?
[17:11] <adriana> !lista
[17:11] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, yes it does, looking up the package name...
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> Beyecixramd:  that 'startupmanager' tried to be smart and set a vga= res.. and did it wrongly. :)
[17:11] <caravel> bondiblueos9: come back with Alt+F7 to graphic mode
[17:11] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, okay then take as long as you need.
[17:11] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: how do you disable plymouth?
[17:11] <Um_cara_qualquer> is it possible to cut a little part of a video and make a new one with this part?
[17:11] <fosscon> thank you guys
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  i disabled the service,  mainly. It MIGHT actually be patched where it works now for my system. but im not going to bother to try to reenable it any time soon
[17:12] <Loshki> Um_cara_qualquer: in general yes, depending on its format. I use avidemux for small edits on avi files...
[17:12] <X4me1eoH_> hi, who know russian chanell about ubuntu?
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  renamed the /etc/init/plymouth*  (may not be a good idea)
[17:12] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: thanks...
[17:12] <llutz> !ru > X4me1eoH_
[17:13] <Um_cara_qualquer> Loshki, it is avi... is it possible?
[17:13] <X4me1eoH_> thank, i want may chanell =)
[17:13] <X4me1eoH_> I banned on ubuntu-ru =(
[17:13] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: and it boots ok without plymouth?
[17:13] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.31-20-generic
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  yes. I just get a black screen for a bit . then the text messages..
[17:13] <caravel> how to archive a usb key, contaiing a bootable live distribution with multiple partitions, in order to restore it later as simply as burning an iso file to cd ?
[17:14] <Loshki> Um_cara_qualquer: try avidemux <file.avi> and see what it says about the file...
[17:14] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: great, thanks...
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  this is my 'updated 100+ times during beta to final box' so who knows what aall ive tweaked/hackes/broken on ot
[17:14] <llutz> caravel: sudo cat /dev/sdX >stick.img
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  you may not be as lucky :)
[17:14] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: forewarned is forearmed :-)
[17:14] <attish> caravel, if I understand correctly, you want to create a live CD from a bootable usb drive?
[17:15] <john__> exit
[17:15] <attish> caravel, or just archive it, then later boot again from the same key?
[17:15] <john__> quit
[17:15] <llutz> caravel: sudo cat stick.img >/dev/sdX           to restore later
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  some forum threads suggest just removeing the plymouth themes.
[17:15] <caravel> llutz: thanks, do you mean cat /dev/sdb (and not sdb1, sdb2..) ??
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457388&page=4
[17:15] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: excellent, thank you...
[17:15] <llutz> caravel: sda/sdb, you need the whole device if it has partitions on it
[17:15] <attish> caravel, yes, you archive the whole device; just check which one is that
[17:16] <corneliuSE> X4me1eoH_: There is #ubuntu-ru  on RusNet
[17:16] <Um_cara_qualquer> Loshki, don't know what you mean... but i have avidemux here and it is running the video just fine
[17:16] <attish> caravel, one way is do a dmesg after plugging in the device
[17:16] <caravel> attish: I have a live usb key created from a linutop -- no iso available, they have a script which downloads and patch directly the usb key
[17:16] <Um_cara_qualquer> Loshki, how can i cut a piece of it?
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  trying to reneable it to see it actually works now. :)
[17:17] <attish> caravel, but would you like to boot the image from a CD, or only from the key?
[17:17] <squiddy> overheating on lucid. anyone have the same problem? any solution?
[17:17] <attish> squiddy, what machine?
[17:17] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, what next?
[17:18] <caravel> attish: only from the key -- I just want to use my key from something else, and be able to restore LinutopOS to a usb key whenever I need it, and without having a running LinutopOS accessible
[17:18] <attish> try the sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel again
[17:18] <Guest70947> Kick me i'm famous \o/
[17:18] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, try the sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel again
[17:18] <llutz> caravel: so "sudo cat /dev/sdX >stick.img" is what you want
[17:18] <Guest71480> Trouble with Pidgin status: I set the "Status to apply on startup". but the status is automatically set to last used status on startup. I am using Pidgin 2.7 on Lucid.
[17:18] <gio> !list
[17:18] <caravel> llutz: ok, thanks -- restoring will be ?
[17:19] <llutz> caravel: sudo cat stick.img >/dev/sdX           to restore later
[17:19] <attish> caravel, that's right. but be extremely careful when restoring! you could overwrite your hard drive if you use the wrong number for X
[17:19] <caravel> llutz: so simple, huh -- thanks a lot, cheers
[17:19] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, shall I do a reboot like requested?
[17:19] <llutz> caravel: and like i said, use the complete device (sda/sdb/sdc) and not the single partitions sdXY
[17:19] <attish> caravel, I did that once :)
[17:19] <caravel> attish: I'm used to this stuff, I just didn't know cat could do that
[17:20] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, should not be necessary, but if it still doesn't work, it's worth a try
[17:20] <llutz> caravel: you also can use dd, but i'f prefer cat
[17:20] <attish> caravel, cat does it, but dd may be faster -- haven't tested, though
[17:20] <llutz> caravel: sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=stick.img bs=4k
[17:20] <tjingboem> i have a /home but my terminal starts in /  Why?
[17:20] <attish> llutz, :))))))
[17:20] <caravel> I know dd -- but it does copy unused blocks, right?
[17:20] <soupdragon> did they change GRUB from 9.10 to 10.4?
[17:20] <Loshki> Um_cara_qualquer: avidemux allows you to move the slider and set the beginning and end of a cut (see A and B at the bottom of the screen), and then cut away the bits you don't want and save the rest to a file. Be careful not to overwrite the original...
[17:20] <ozerimar> what is a initrd.img   file????
[17:20] <llutz> caravel: both will do that
[17:21] <caravel> llutz: oh ^^ any way I can avoid it, then ?
[17:21] <attish> caravel, llutz my guess is that the cat way wouldn't create sparse files, either; know anything about that?
[17:21] <llutz> caravel: if you have ab 8gig stick you'll get an 8gig  image
[17:21] <juanca> How to increase the screen resolutions available in Ubuntu Lucid? I'm only getting resolutions for 15" monitor and I have an ATI card
[17:21] <Um_cara_qualquer> Loshki, right
[17:21] <bjlen> hi can anyone help me copy a cd? i get a message from brasero saying i need cdaa2wav but i have cdparanoi and am using ubuntu 10.04
[17:21] <tas> is there an easy way to downgrade a package? I need BeautifulSoup to be an earlier version because it uses another htmlparser in the new one
[17:21] <Inviscr> whats an easy way to install WMP54G wireless card from comand line
[17:22] <squiddy> attish: u mean the specs? AMD athlon X2 QL-67, ATi radeon 3200 HD, 3GB of RAM
[17:22] <abhijain> hello everyone
[17:22] <PidginTrouble> Trouble with Pidgin status: I set the "Status to apply on startup". but the status is automatically set to last used status on startup. I am using Pidgin 2.7 on Lucid.
[17:22] <ozerimar> initrd.img   is this a backup file?
[17:22] <attish> caravel, you could try cat /dev/sdX | bzip2 > drive.img
[17:22] <private_meta> Somehow there's something seriously wrong with the Ubuntu Upgrade process... everytime I upgrade to the next distribution, a feature breaks...
[17:22] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, no output. Reboot then?
[17:22] <xorwhy> What command, if any, will tell me which version of the proprietary nvidia driver I am using
[17:22] <Um_cara_qualquer> Loshki, hahaha it worked man, thx
[17:22] <attish> ozerimar, no, it's essentially an intermediate stage used when booting the system; don't touch it unless you know what you're doing
[17:23] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, ok then
[17:23] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, let's hope for the best ;)
[17:23] <private_meta> With the last Upgrade, my touchpad stopped working, now USB Mouse Support and the local Keyboard on the notebook stopped responding
[17:23] <Loshki> Um_cara_qualquer: very cool...
[17:23] <caravel> attish: nope, I'd have to zero the unused blocks first, or they'd be copied and compressed too.
[17:23] <private_meta> great
[17:23] <caravel> So back to square 1 ;-) how to create the equivalent to an iso, from a usb key ?
[17:23] <ozerimar> i don't know what im doing
[17:23] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, sure thing! Be back in a moment.......
[17:23] <attish> squiddy, my guess would be sudo apt-get install powertop, then sudo powertop, and try the power saving tips it has
[17:23] <tas> ozerimar: i got no clue what i'm doing either... you wanna join forces?
[17:24] <atokad> any way to integrate an ssh'd terminal into a windows wallpaper? similar to embedding a terminal into ubuntus desktop?
[17:24] <jorgelinux> what's the best way to extract links from anchor in an html text
[17:24] <squiddy> attish: will do. i'll tell you the result. thanks
[17:24] <ozerimar> i made backups of my system when it was working unfortuneatly while upgrading i lost power to the laptop and could not recove r    so i reinstalled from the cd  but now i see my old files
[17:24] <Um_cara_qualquer> Loshki, by the way is it still possible to include subtitle in it? the part that matches with the part of the video?
[17:24] <attish> caravel, an ISO is a byte-to-byte representation of the CD; the same for an USB is what you'd get by doing the cat thing
[17:24] <juanca> How to increase the screen resolutions available in Ubuntu Lucid? I'm only getting resolutions for 15" monitor and I have an ATI card
[17:25] <PidginTrouble> Trouble with Pidgin status: I set the "Status to apply on startup". but the status is automatically set to last used status on startup. I am using Pidgin 2.7 on Lucid. NOONE WILLING TO HELP?
[17:25] <attish> caravel, what bothers you is that you have a 650MB installation on a 8GB key, you don't need a 8GB file
[17:25] <attish> caravel, am I correct?
[17:25] <jorgelinux> PidginTrouble, NO
[17:25] <bluds> hi, there is any way to write data on a compact flash without any filesystem? I would like to write the first bits of the compact, any idea???
[17:25] <sh1ny> juanca, is your monitor a widescreen one with more than one input ?
[17:25] <ozerimar> my old files contained all drivers for my sound card  and wifi etc    is there a way to retrieve them
[17:26] <juanca> sh1ny: no
[17:26] <attish> ozerimar, you installed over your old installation without backing up anything?
[17:26] <tado> captions in the cairo dock suc-docks are all blurred, but i can't find the setting that regulates it, does anyone know how to fix it?
[17:26] <m4tic> nope
[17:26] <tas> jorgelinux, Theres a few html parses out there... i personally use BeatifulSoup for such tasks... it's an lib for python
[17:26] <attish> bluds, you can write it just like any block device
[17:26] <Loshki> Um_cara_qualquer: that depends on how the subtitles are stored. Usually the subs for an avi are in a separate (.srt) file and you'd have to edit that file separately and change all the timings. I use subtitleworkshop under wine to adjust subtitle timings. Nothing else works like it...
[17:26] <sh1ny> i have an ati card also and it works fine fr 1680x1050 , if we exclude the monitor not initializing the proper input sometimes
[17:26] <sh1ny> for*
[17:27] <ozerimar> yes i backed up  but only to my hard drive..   i see all my old files. pics etc    with the new installation
[17:27] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, the sound is working! I'm gonna throw some Creed on now.
[17:27] <jorgelinux> tas, gonna take a look at it
[17:27] <jorgelinux> tas, thanks
[17:27] <ozerimar> but i have no wireless or sound everything is default
[17:27] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, I recommend Human Clay ;)
[17:27] <tas> jorgelinux, no problem bro :)
[17:27] <Um_cara_qualquer> hmm
[17:27] <ozerimar> there is no way of accessing the backup files i made?
[17:28] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, I don't know who Human Clay are, I'll check them out though!
[17:28] <tado> le sub dock di cairo-dock mi appaiono con le scritte fuori fuoco, ma non trovo come modificarle. qualcuno sa aiutare?
[17:28] <tado> sorry
[17:28] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, ohhhhh.
[17:28] <tado> wrong channel :)
[17:28] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, it's a Creed album.
[17:28] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, yes it is :)
[17:29] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, Creed are a band that I have only gotten into recently so I wasn't aware. I'm listening to a few songs from that particular album now as it goes.
[17:29] <ForgeAus> whats the best dockbar app for gnome? (other than gnome-panel of course)
[17:29] <timmillwood> Docky
[17:29] <ForgeAus> ok thx :)
[17:29] <m4tic> docky
[17:29] <juanca> How to increase the screen resolutions available in Ubuntu Lucid? I'm only getting resolutions for 15" monitor and I have an ATI card
[17:29] <ForgeAus> lots of options like awn cairo-dock around
[17:29] <alket> Hi , I want to watch a movie with VLC but seems that subtitles are 5 second after , how do i correct this ?
[17:30] <ForgeAus> KDE has almost none
[17:30] <timmillwood> juanca: Sounds like a driver issue
[17:30] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, I don't know much about them either, I've only heard this one album.
[17:30] <juanca> timmillwood: how can I solve it... how can I know if my ATI is working?
[17:30] <timmillwood> What's the best sub 10" netbook to run ubuntu on?
[17:31] <m4tic> @alket did u try totem?
[17:31] <ForgeAus> lots of mono behind gnome
[17:31] <bluds> attish there is any command to write blocks ??
[17:31] <timmillwood> juanca: Google "ati [model no.] ubuntu"
[17:31] <jorgelinux> tas, one more question.. when you do an import from python, how do you specify the path of the file to import???
[17:31] <attish> bluds, sure, the best tool to use is dd
[17:31] <bluds> thanks attish
[17:32] <SealedWithAKiss> attish, are modules the equivalent of drivers?
[17:32] <attish> bluds, a word of advice
[17:32] <attish> bluds, be very careful, you can ruin your hard drive; always triple-check which device you output to.
[17:33] <ForgeAus> for ati theres an app jockey right?
[17:33] <caravel> attish: sorry was away -- yes, you are correct. I think I don't quite get what is the structure of a bootable USB key. I would use Clonezilla, but it's a bit heavy for the circumstance (I never installed it locally, I use CloneZilla live), I'd like to know how to do this without rebooting or installing extra software, if possible
[17:33] <attish> SealedWithAKiss, basically, though modules are just pluggable pieces of kernel code; they are not tied to what drivers do
[17:33] <ForgeAus> I think the ubotu link is outdated
[17:33] <bluds> attish, thanks for the advice :D
[17:33] <madjoe> hello! who's a moderator of this channel?
[17:34] <prince> hi
[17:34] <m4tic> floodbot
[17:34] <madjoe> not a bot.. a real person..
[17:34] <konman> ping
[17:34] <konman> ping
[17:34] <prince> can anyone help me in installing oracle 10g in ubuntu
[17:35] <konman> oracle?
[17:35] <madjoe> any moderators in here?
[17:35] <attish> caravel, I don't know much about the structure of a bootable usb key, but I'd love to; however if you do it like this: 1. erase the key completely, eg. cat /dev/zero > /dev/sdx 2. install 3. archive using cat /dev/sdx | gzip > key.img; this way, gzip will very efficiently compress away all those zeroes to a few bytes
[17:35] <soupdragon> madjoe, you can check /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list   if nobody replies
[17:35] <prince> yes oracle 10g
[17:35] <madjoe> thanks
[17:36] <konman> prince: I don't want to send you away but doesn't oracle do support?
[17:36] <m4tic> what's oracle?
[17:36] <spvensko> hi, my icons along my top bar in gnome are hopping around between reboots, is there any way to prevent this?
[17:36] <m4tic> do u min solaris?
[17:36] <attish> hello! when I boot up a lucid live cd, gdu-notification-daemon crashes on an assertion; this seems to be bug #568565. I checked the source, and my impression is that something delays dbus initialization on certain machines, and this makes said daemon's attempts at connecting to it fail; could you give me some hints on how to go about diagnosing a bug that is so awkward to reproduce? (or, if this is not the place to ask this, point me to the right place plea
[17:36] <attish> se)
[17:36] <m4tic> @spvensko right click the icon and lock it
[17:37] <tas> jorgelinux, how to import a file?? a html file? you can use urllib for that
[17:37] <salil> not one f***ing distro will allow installing only the boot loader using the setup disk... You always have to install the entire thing if you messed up...
[17:37] <madjoe> nhandler: ping
[17:38] <kub0l> hi all
[17:38] <attish> salil, you can do it
[17:38] <prince> hi all
[17:38] <kub0l> i've got a problem
[17:38] <salil> attish: I know you can.. But not off the setup disk
[17:38] <kub0l> how can i remove CEDEGA?
[17:38] <prince> any one who can help me installing oracle 10g on ubuntu ?
[17:38] <soupdragon> does anyone know why karmic boots on my computer but lucid doesn't?
[17:39] <soupdragon> has GRUB changed
[17:39] <blue_anna> hwat font do I need to view kanji ?
[17:39] <basajaun> have problem updating grub header 00 1: Syntax error: "|" unexpected http://paste.ubuntu.com/435054/
[17:39] <Actarus> hi
[17:39] <attish> salil, you boot up using a live CD, then mount the drive with the broken distro, then chroot into it
[17:39] <attish> salil, then do a sudo grub-install /dev/sdX
[17:39] <kub0l> how can i remove cedega? Is there somethink like UNINSTALL in windows?
[17:40] <salil> i tried that... didn't work... tried sudo grub and then setup (hd0) also... nothing worked with intrepid..
[17:40] <Actarus> anyone knows if there is a cpu-cores monitor to add as gnome applet?
[17:40] <salil> attish:
[17:40] <caravel> attish: thanks for the advice
[17:40] <datacrusher> hello everyone. Im working on a vm here, that if it all goes right i wanna use it as image to install ubuntu on some machines, can i do this kinda thing?
[17:40] <skyred> kroot, I have the commands here, could you modify it with gdb? http://pastebin.com/TE82zbk7
[17:40] <attish> salil, sorry then, that has always helped me
[17:41] <phonic> actarus: have you tried the system monitor applet?
[17:41] <Actarus> yes but it doesn't show all the cores, only 1 cpu
[17:41] <salil> attish: I guess i missed something.. Anyway i was only installing it on a vm..
[17:41] <m4tic> kub0l: system.administration.synaptic and search for codega, untick the box and apply
[17:42] <kub0l> i canot find CEDEGA in my synaptic
[17:42] <kub0l> i tried 3 times
[17:42] <salil> CODEGA
[17:43] <AhmedBH> hi, I have a problem when ever i open Log Viewer 2.30.0 it shows an error how do i reinstall it ?
[17:43] <AhmedBH> i use Gnome by the way
[17:43] <noctilux> hi everyone
[17:43] <m4tic> then codega not cedega
[17:43] <kub0l> hi
[17:43] <Pici> kub0l: Thats because it is not in our repositories. It is a commercial product that you'd need to get from their website.
[17:43] <noctilux> cedega or codega?
[17:43] <m4tic> he wants to uninstall it people
[17:44] <salil> neither is there
[17:44] <noctilux> oh, right
[17:44] <salil> datacrusher: yes
[17:44] <m4tic> kub0l: what OS are you using?
[17:44] <dominicdinada> !templates
[17:45] <dominicdinada> well where do i get templates from ?
[17:45] <AhmedBH> sudo -K ? and sudo -k ? is that a same command and what is that for ? :)
[17:45] <datacrusher> salil, for what should i search?
[17:45] <salil> datacrusher: what do you want to do? Copy this installation on multiple vms?
[17:46] <noctilux> does anyone here know his/her way around maxima?
[17:46] <warriorforgod> AhmedBH: man sudo will tell you
[17:46] <m4tic> whats maxima
[17:46] <AhmedBH> Good idea thanks
[17:46] <AhmedBH> :)
[17:46] <noctilux> m4tic: that's a maths program
[17:46] <m4tic> i use derive 6 and mathlab in wine
[17:47] <Actarus> Is there any way of adding a terminal to Nautilus so that it opens to the directory currently showed in the browser? there is somehting similar in KDE
[17:47] <datacrusher> salil, i got 10 kiosk computers here on the library, running windowx vista + gpolicies. Im testint an ubuntu to do the same job, surf the web and lock down access
[17:47] <t6> ...hi how can i register my nickname .. Bit of a newb ~~hehehehe~~                                                                                                                                                                    [[ DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0 ]]
[17:47] <Mrokii> hello. My 10.04-partition only starts up to a grub-prompt. I have tried to rebuild the bootloader and recreated the grub.cnf-file, but that didn't help. Does anybody have tips on what else I could try?
[17:47] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[17:47] <datacrusher> but i dont wanna install ubuntu on every single machine and do this all over again, would be nice if i have to do something like a basic install and import this configs, clone the vm to the machines.. dont know exactly
[17:47] <LzrdKing> what "above"?
[17:47] <cobalt_> haha kak eEeeeeeeee?
[17:48] <LzrdKing> is it talking about 3 hours ago?
[17:48] <cobalt_> botovete samo vij kak sa naredeni i izbroeni
[17:48] <grisha> hoho
[17:48] <m4tic> Mrokii: did you try sudo update-grub2
[17:48] <noctilux> blimey, quite a bit going on here, isn't there :D
[17:48] <cobalt_> edno vreme i nie imahme takiva :)
[17:48] <dunas> I'm having a problem with the Totem plugin for Firefox. When trying to play videos, it defaults to volume:0 and I can't find a kind of preferences panel anywhere nor do I know what to configure otherwise. Help?
[17:48] <IdleOne> !english | cobalt_
[17:48] <grisha> taka stava
[17:48] <salil> datacrusher: Depending on what vm you are using, you can just copy the hard disk image and vm config file to all machines and run it on all...
[17:48] <grisha> kato nqkoi hora im dadesh malko vlast
[17:49] <grisha> ....
[17:49] <m4tic> ENGLISH please
[17:49] <grisha> prebaha vsichko
[17:49] <salil> datacrusher: What's the vm manager you are using?
[17:49] <grisha> kak moje da ima tolkova user
[17:49] <IdleOne> !english | grisha
[17:49] <grisha> o
[17:49] <grisha> nahulihana
[17:49] <FloodBot1> grisha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:49] <grisha> na eng iskat
[17:49] <grisha> fuck the english :)
[17:49] <grisha> im bulgarian
[17:50] <AhmedBH> How do i clean the memory after upgrading or installing packages by synaptic ?
[17:50] <AhmedBH> its still in there so
[17:50]  * zYc is away (Bis bald, bin dann mal weg)
[17:50] <sh1ny> memory ?
[17:50] <sh1ny> apt-get clean cleans the caches
[17:50] <AhmedBH> i mean HDD space
[17:50] <AhmedBH> thanks
[17:50] <sh1ny> apt-get clean :)
[17:50] <datacrusher> im using virtualbox, under windows vista
[17:50] <xand_> hello everyone, is there a way to list all the packages which have more than one version available ?
[17:50] <datacrusher> salil,
[17:51] <attish> hello, I'm trying to fix a bug, but I need some directions; which channel should I go asking for help in this?
[17:51] <AhmedBH> its saying unable to lock directory huh
[17:51] <AhmedBH> nothing else is runing ..
[17:51] <sh1ny> xand, you can see all the versions of a specific package with aptitude show packagename
[17:51] <vlt> Hello. Is anyone using Pidgin with gmail's XMPP and video calls successfully and can confirm that this works?
[17:51] <basajaun> have problem updating grub header 00 1: Syntax error: "|" unexpected http://paste.ubuntu.com/435054/  can someone help?
[17:51] <sh1ny> AhmedBH, try rebooting , or ps xa | grep apt
[17:51] <attish> xand_, I guess you'll have to roll your own solution; check man apt-get and related commands
[17:51] <sh1ny> AhmedBH, and see what it returns and kill it
[17:53] <attish> xand, by the way, what do you mean? using apt, you can only install the most recent version of a package unless you use version pinning
[17:53] <sh1ny> attish, wrong :)
[17:54] <xand_> attish, so there's no way you're aware of...
[17:54]  * noctilux failed impressively when trying to use emacs
[17:54] <attish> sh1ny, yes, now I see. you can specify versions using the equal sign
[17:54] <attish> xand_ I didn't say that, I would just like a cleaner image of what you're trying to do
[17:55] <attish> xand_ almost all the packages have multiple versions in the repos
[17:55] <warriorforgod> Is PC2 memory and DDR2 memory the same thing?
[17:55] <dunas> I'm having a problem with the Totem plugin for Firefox. When trying to play videos, it defaults to volume:0 and I can't find a kind of preferences panel anywhere nor do I know what to configure otherwise. Help?
[17:55] <xand_> attish, oh alright, i'm studying this parts on aptitude, and a listing like this would come very handy
[17:56] <hultgren> I have a Sony Vaio VGN-SR39VN with Ubuntu 10.04.. the fan is always running like mad. I've tried the proprietary graphics drivers and vaiofand, but to no avail. Suggestions?
[17:56] <attish> xand_, aptitude lists only the newest versions of each package, no?
[17:56] <salil> datacrusher: ?
[17:56] <sh1ny> attish, wrong again
[17:57] <sh1ny> attish, don't make it a habbit ^_^
[17:57] <attish> sh1ny, good thing someone's watching over me, so I'm safe to make errors :)
[17:57] <datacrusher> salil, im using virutualbox
[17:57] <xand_> attish, not if you turn on verbosity
[17:58] <attish> sh1ny, how about you help the guy, and I watch? :)
[17:58] <sh1ny> xand, attish , just hit enter on the package, go to versions and hit the + on the version you want
[17:58] <tebyte> can someone help me plz? i cant run Nessus
[17:58] <sh1ny> that is if they are other versions available in the repos
[17:58] <basajaun> Question: have problem updating grub header 00 1: Syntax error: "|" unexpected http://paste.ubuntu.com/435054/  can someone help?
[17:59] <sh1ny> attish, i am helping ! :)
[17:59] <salil> datacrusher: In C:\Users\<your username>\.Virtualbox you should find a folder called "Machines" where there are folder for the machines you created... You can copy this folder to all kiosks and run them...
[17:59] <tebyte> quien me ayuda no puedo correr el Nessus
[17:59] <a94060> !es
[18:00] <attish> xand_, try apt-cache showpkg packagename
[18:00] <noctilux> Does that bot actually automatically recognise a wrong language?
[18:01] <Pici> noctilux: no, but our users here do.
[18:01] <a94060> no,i just typed in es which makes it give the spanish one
[18:01] <a94060> !en
[18:01] <xand_> attish, sh1ny, hum ok, but isn't there a command thru aptitude CLI that lists all packages which have more than one version  available from lets say different repositories ?
[18:01] <noctilux> ah, right
[18:01] <sh1ny> xand, no, there isnt
[18:02] <xand_> sh1ny, alright
[18:02] <xand_> sh1ny, thanks !
[18:02] <m4tic> xand_ what specific package are you looking for?
[18:02] <hardcorowiec> !op hardcorowiec
[18:02] <Pici> hardcorowiec: ?
[18:02] <sh1ny> xand, you could try writing a script to do that
[18:02] <sh1ny> xand, in a language that you know :)
[18:03] <xand_> m4tic, i can do it for a specific package with aptitude show -V
[18:04] <xand_> sh1ny, yes that should not take a lot of time
[18:04] <alkamid> hello
[18:04] <alkamid> any idea how to check my bluetooth mac address?
[18:05] <caravel> I've put xubuntu alternate on a usb key. It starts, but fails at the "cdrom detection" step. How to do this ?
[18:06] <caravel> (I used UnetBootIn)
[18:06] <m4tic> do u min BIOS can't detect?
[18:06] <mickster04> wtf has happened to #ubuntu the last couple of days
[18:07] <m4tic> mickster04 its a lot better than #mandriva trust me
[18:07] <om26er> mickster04, please watch the language
[18:08] <eam> alkamid: are you joking
[18:08] <eam> om26er: rather
[18:08] <alkamid> eam: no I'm not
[18:08] <om26er> eam, hrm?
[18:09] <eam> alkamid: yeah, you're not
[18:09] <sebsebseb> Hi
[18:09] <bittin> hi
[18:09] <sebsebseb> bittin: hi
[18:10] <Bigbrumbrum> Hello! :) How do i get ubuntu to run my the same graphics driver as in failsafe-graphics-mode on my normal boot session?
[18:10] <eam> hey anyone know of a utility like osx's open(1), to open the given file with the appropriate application? Does gnome or any of the desktop environments have such a thing?
[18:10] <jrtayloriv> I'm following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP to install LAMP ... I just did the part where it says to do "sudo a2dissite default && sudo a2ensite mysite" and restarted Apache. But now when I go to http://localhost (or http://127.0.0.1), I get a 403 error "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access / on this server." ... how do I fix this?
[18:10] <alkamid> eam: was it a lame question?
[18:10] <jrtayloriv> Do I need to change permissions on the files to allow apache to access them?
[18:10] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: I'm guessing your directory doesnt contain index.html, or it isnt readable by www-data
[18:11] <eam> alkamid: was a typo - I meant to address om26er
[18:11] <attish> eam, I think that'd be xdg-open
[18:11] <eam> attish: awesome, thx
[18:11] <jrtayloriv> linxeh, OK -- it's the latter. I was looking in /etc/group and couldn't figure out which one Ubuntu used for apache -- I'm used to Gentoo. Thanks for your help
[18:11] <Bigbrumbrum> anyone who can help me? uninstalling fglrx doesnt do the trick...
[18:12] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: check the user that apache is running as if in doubt ;-)
[18:12] <jrtayloriv> linxeh, How do I do that?
[18:12] <basajaun> please can someone help  at the update grub command I get /etc/grub.d/_00 header syntax error : " | " unexpected,?
[18:12] <caravel> m4tic: no, I mean that the installer launches correctly, but then fails while trying to detect a cdrom drive
[18:13] <caravel> it doesn't seem like the Alternate distribution is designed to be launched from a usb stick
[18:13] <om26er> !unity
[18:13] <m4tic> why does it have to detect cdrom? try the livecd image
[18:13] <nano-> Hi, I'm trying to install gnustep-devel on Lucid, but seems like gorm.app is missing. Any hints on what to do?
[18:14] <caravel> m4tic: I don't know why! I want to use the Alternate in order to install an encrypted system. Standard live distribution all work
[18:15] <m4tic> if they all work, why use something that doesn't?
[18:15] <Bigbrumbrum> nano -: sudo apt-get install gnustep-devel gets this message for me: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[18:15] <Bigbrumbrum> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[18:15] <Bigbrumbrum> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[18:15] <Bigbrumbrum> or been moved out of Incoming.
[18:15] <Bigbrumbrum> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[18:15] <FloodBot4> Bigbrumbrum: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:15] <Bigbrumbrum> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  gnustep-devel: Depends: gorm.app but it is not installable E: Broken packages
[18:15] <attish> nano- check which package has it using package.ubuntu.com
[18:16] <AnxiousNut> Is there a way to use torrent clients to download contents using http and ftp? some clients in windows can do that!
[18:16] <Friamieda> join #frikipedia
[18:16] <Friamieda> join #frikipedia
[18:17] <FloodBot4> Friamieda: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:17] <phylock> do anyone know a "how to" on Ubuntu Server and thin client setup, where i can reconnect to the same session(do not close my applications when i close).
[18:17] <a94060> AnxiousNut, you may want to check out deluge
[18:17] <sh1ny> phylock, use the alternate installer cd
[18:17] <AnxiousNut> a94060, can it do that?
[18:17] <Slart> AnxiousNut: I know azureus has support for using http seeding.. not sure what it means though
[18:17] <sh1ny> phylock, it has an option at the install menu to install LTSP server
[18:18] <a94060> AnxiousNut, I am not sure . I have never used it for that purpose and dont have it installed right now
[18:18] <sh1ny> phylock, you might want to read the docs tho
[18:18] <phylock> sh1ny - :d i take a look
[18:18] <sh1ny> AnxiousNut, just use FileZilla or something for that ? or you can install azureus and see if it does that
[18:18] <AnxiousNut> thanks Slart and a94060, i'll check these apps :)
[18:18] <sh1ny> phylock, i did setup this 2 years ago for a client with 8.04 and it worked just fine
[18:19] <a94060> you are welcome AnxiousNut I love this tab feature
[18:19] <AnxiousNut> a94060, yea me too
[18:19] <Gilgha> hi, I wonder if it's possible to avoid my wireless card to go to sleep mode while the lid of my laptop is closed?
[18:20] <a94060> Gilgha, no I dont think its possible to do so
[18:20] <sh1ny> phylock, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[18:20] <sh1ny> phylock, a lot to read ^_^
[18:20] <a94060> when the computer sleeps,everything gets turned off. If you are trying to run a server or something,computer has to stay on Gilgha
[18:20] <phylock> sh1ny - thanks
[18:20] <jrtayloriv> linxeh, I changed the permissions, and I'm still getting the error. Any other suggestions?
[18:21] <Gilgha> no you didn't understand a94060
[18:21] <vimalg2> Does Lucid work out of the box on Xen parravirt?
[18:21] <Gilgha> the computer doesn't sleep
[18:21] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: what do you get in the apache error log for your site?
[18:21] <a94060> oh oh oh,my bad. you want the computer to stay on when you just close the lid Gilgha ?
[18:21] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: by defualt it is in /var/log/apache2/error_log - unless your site config changes it
[18:21] <jrtayloriv> [Mon May 17 10:21:02 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] (13)Permission denied: access to /index.html denied
[18:21] <Gilgha> when I close the lid, the screen turns off but the computer keep on running. Except for the wireless card which is going to sleep mode
[18:22] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: then its a permissions problem still - are the directories owned/readable too?
[18:22] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: the whole tree has to have execute bit set for world at least
[18:22] <a94060> oh, Gilgha ,I am not sure then. I was also going to say System -> Preferences -> Power Management and check there. Not sure about that
[18:22] <jrtayloriv> -rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 29 2010-05-17 10:01 index.html
[18:22] <jrtayloriv> drwxr-xr-x  2 www-data www-data  4096 2010-05-17 10:01 www
[18:22] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: and the parent directories above www are all world readable / owned by www-data too ?
[18:23] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: btw unless you need the web server to change the contents of the www dir you should probably have the files owned by another user
[18:23] <jrtayloriv> linxeh, No, it's in a subdir of my home directory. I was following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP, which said I could do that.
[18:24] <RyanP> I'm work for a school district. We're using an install of Ubuntu Jaunty with OpenOffice in some schools. We had some complaints about inappropriate clip art from the openclipart packages in the writer gallery. I've deleted the images, but the thumbnails still show up. The thumbnails seem to be contained in the openclipart-openoffice.org package as .sdg and .sdv snd .thm., but I don't know how to view or edit those files. Is there anyth
[18:24] <RyanP> ing I can do?
[18:24] <jrtayloriv> linxeh, (That was in response to "above www are all world readable ...")
[18:24] <acicula> vimalg2, as a guest os you mean? i should think so, maybe you have to switch to the xen kernel isnstead of the standard one
[18:24] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: where does it say that ?
[18:24] <Gilgha> I've already searched there a94060 , that's the way I managed to avoid the computer going to sleep mode while the lid is closed
[18:24] <a94060> Alrighty, well I dont know then,sorry Gilgha
[18:24] <jrtayloriv> linxeh, "Change the Directory directive, replace <Directory /var/www/> to <Directory /home/user/public_html/>"
[18:24] <xorwhy> How do I disable extra TTY's for upstart?
[18:24] <sdk> I've got a laptop that will have a dedicated use.  I need help figuring out how to do two things: 1) autologin on boot (I'll still have SSH for administration) and 2) have a script run on login (there used to be a 'Sessions' applet, but I can't find it).  Can someone lend a hand?
[18:25] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: sure, but your home directory needs to have world execute at least, as well as the public_html directory
[18:25] <Gilgha> Ok neverming a94060
[18:25] <Gilgha> *nevermind*
[18:25] <acicula> sdk gui autologon is set via the logon preferences under administration
[18:25] <Gilgha> but is anybody else know how to avoid the wireless card of my laptop going to sleep mode while the lid is closed?
[18:25] <acicula> sdk, startup execution  once logged in is under preferences , startup applications
[18:26] <jrtayloriv> linxeh, OK, and there is nothing unsafe about giving those permissions on my home dir?
[18:26] <acicula> Gilgha, isnt the entire laptop going to sleep?
[18:26] <vlt> Hello. Is anyone using Pidgin with gmail's XMPP and video calls successfully and can confirm that this works? (Or willing to test a short video connection?)
[18:26] <sdk> acicula: Gah.. ther eit is.. duh.
[18:26] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: other than people can run commands in there, no, they cant modify files etc, and as long as you make sure the other files in there have the right permissions it is fine
[18:26] <sh1ny> vlt, to be honest i tried a lot and couldnt make it work properly, so i switched to empathy for that
[18:26] <sdk> acicula: Many thanks.
[18:26] <Gilgha> no that's the point acicula, the laptop keeps on running. The screen turns off but the laptop keeps on running.
[18:27] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: many of the companies I've worked at have had a separate webhome directory for this reason
[18:27] <jrtayloriv> linxeh, How come the default apache site works even though the permissions are set to root:root? Why do I have to set it to www-data elsewhere?
[18:27] <Roasted_> is medibuntu down or something? Im trying to convert some music files to mp3 but my sound converter doesnt show mp3 as a convert-able option. I googled and it said I need medibuntu. I installed but nothing changed.
[18:27] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: because of the user/group/world permissions
[18:27] <acicula> jrtayloriv, ownership and access permissions are related, but not the same
[18:27] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: the files are owned by root/group root, but anyone can read them
[18:28] <acicula> something that is owned by root but r--r--r-- is readable for everything
[18:28] <acicula> *everyone
[18:28] <jrib> Roasted_: installed what exactly?
[18:28] <jrtayloriv> I see. So it's the access permissions that I'm setting for apache, and the ownership permissions for the user who will be editing them, correct?
[18:28] <linxeh> jrtayloriv: you shouldnt need to change ownership to www-data; the only cases you do are fringe ones - ie don't do it unless you understand
[18:28] <linxeh> yes correct
[18:28] <acicula> ie the wwwhome user can read anything that is world readable, or readable for the wwwuser or wwwgroup
[18:28] <linxeh> right, home time !
[18:28] <acicula> er www-data user
[18:29] <jrtayloriv> Excellent. Thanks so much to both of you for explaining that to me.
[18:29] <Snomi> hey do you guys know anything about integrating google calendar and windows live calendar into ubuntu calendar?
[18:29] <Snomi> using the .ical files?
[18:29] <Gilgha> crap nobody knows hot to avoid the wireless card going to sleep mode while the lid of my laptop is closed?
[18:29] <Roasted_> jrib, the medibuntu repo. on the repository how-to page.
[18:29] <jrib> Gilgha: is your computer suspending when you close the lid?
[18:29] <acicula>  Gilgha isnt the entire laptop going to sleep?
[18:29] <jrib> Roasted_: well if you just enabled a repository, that gives you access to more software but doesn't actually install anything.
[18:30] <m4tic>  how to erase a directory and its subfolders on an HDD drive connect to LAN via Ethernet?
[18:30] <Roasted_> jrib, oh, okay... how would I enable mp3 support for sound converter?
[18:30] <mpusuro> oey
[18:30] <Gilgha> No acicula and jrib, the entire laptop stay awake, I configured it that way
[18:30] <jrib> Roasted_: I don't know, but did the link you read not tell you?  What was it (the link)?
[18:30] <Roasted_> jrib, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[18:31] <jrib> Roasted_: where does that talk about mp3 conversion?
[18:31] <Roasted_> jrib, I did the SAME thing on my desktop when I installed 10.04, and it works fine.
[18:31] <Slart> m4tic: uhmm.. you can't connect a hard drive directly to ethernet afaik.. there's probably a small file server attached to the hard drive.. use that to access the files/directories
[18:31] <Roasted_> jrib, with sound converter + mp3 or whatever.
[18:31] <Roasted_> jrib, but not my laptop *shrug*
[18:31] <acicula> Gilgha, dunno then why it flips into sleep mode
[18:32] <m4tic> slart: its an ext3
[18:32] <jrib> Roasted_: there isn't a single instance of "mp3" on the medibuntu page
[18:33] <Roasted_> jrib, I know. But Im not sure what else I did. I installed medibuntu by reaction on my desktop + laptop, yet laptop doesnt work. I dont know what else I need.
[18:33] <Slart> m4tic: rm -r will delete stuff recursively.. be careful when you run it though
[18:33] <servidor> hola
[18:33] <jrib> Roasted_: ok, so there isn't actually any link that told you to enable medibuntu to get the mp3 option now?
[18:33] <sebsebseb> !es | servidor
[18:34] <servidor> ok no problem  thanks
[18:34] <Roasted_> jrib, No - I just grabbed medibuntu based on reaction since I do it for every install anyway. I just thought that medibuntu might have a connection to being the issue because up until 3 minutes ago, I didnt have it on my laptop.
[18:34] <Roasted_> jrib, so I thought, oh okay, we have a difference between laptop install vs desktop. lets match it up since desktop works. I did - laptop still dont work. hence my confusion.
[18:35] <jrib> Roasted_: medibuntu is only a repository.  You need to install things from it.  Try gstreamer*-plugin* (you probably need the "ugly" and "ugly-multiverse" ones)
[18:35] <DevilHan> hi guys, any idea why double click with mouse no longer copies the content in ubuntu?
[18:36] <Roasted_> jrib, oh okay. I wonder how I got around that on my desktop then... unless something is saved in your home directory that would help, cause on my desktop I didnt format my home directory - on my laptop I started from ground up.
[18:36] <DevilHan> is there an option I need to enable?
[18:36] <m4tic> double click?
[18:36] <ForgeAus> !infogstreamer-plgin-ugly
[18:36] <ForgeAus> !info gstreamer-plgin-ugly
[18:36] <jrib> Roasted_: you probably installed those packages at some point
[18:36] <ForgeAus> !info gstreamer-plugin-ugly
[18:36] <ForgeAus> helps if I can type
[18:36] <ForgeAus> what? .. hmmm... that because its in metaverse?
[18:36] <Roasted_> jrib, not during the install of the desktop. Im POSITIVE of that. If I installed them earlier and something got saved in a hidden folder in my home directory, thats another matter.
[18:36] <jrib> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[18:36] <jrib> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[18:36] <ForgeAus> IC
[18:36] <Slart> DevilHan: double click where? files and folders? text in a terminal?
[18:37] <Roasted_> jrib, btw I have mp3 support via gstreamer installed according to software center. grrr.
[18:37] <jrib> Roasted_: no, installed things do not go to your home.  Either you had it installed and did an upgrade or you installed it after
[18:37] <ForgeAus> argh did I really just say metaverse instead of multiverse?
[18:37]  * ForgeAus thwaps himself...
[18:37] <DCGstudios> Roasted_, your problem is just a mp3 codec problem? you guys are making it 10x harder then it needs to be if so
[18:37] <Roasted_> jrib, then it had to have com ethrough updates. I dont mean to sound like a stubborn "the computer is wrong!" type, but Im positive I installed nothing else manually.
[18:37] <Slart> ForgeAus: no worries.. you said IC as well.. but you can still make it.. just fight back =)
[18:37] <Roasted_> DCGstudios, Im just trying to get sound converter to work with mp3s.
[18:38] <jrib> Roasted_: often, totem prompts you to install these packages if it needs it
[18:38] <Roasted_> DCGstudios, I can PLAY mp3's fine. But sound converter doesnt give me the option to convert via mp3.
[18:38] <DCGstudios> Roasted_, are you using ffmpeg?
[18:38] <sipior> Roasted_: might be of some use to you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1117283
[18:38] <Roasted_> DCGstudios, Im using sound converter.
[18:38] <caravel> how to run the Alternate install from a usb stick ? it runs, but fails at cd detection step. Is there a solution ?
[18:39] <Slart> !usb
[18:39] <ForgeAus> lol Slart :)
[18:39] <ForgeAus> thx
[18:39] <HoudiniMan> Wondering if anybody has FOG installed and could assist on a slow multicasting problem?
[18:39] <DCGstudios> Roasted_,  http://sox.sourceforge.net/
[18:39] <mapacha> hello
[18:39] <edbian> I'd like to connect my ubuntu computer to an audio reciever.  Are there sound cards that ouptut in a more proper way than those head-phone jack style connections?
[18:39] <DevilHan> Slart, text in console
[18:40] <mapacha> i need help...
[18:40] <DevilHan> double click on text in console should do copy and then, another mouse click should do paste, is it not?
[18:40] <sebsebseb> !ask | mapacha
[18:40] <Soyo> !ask
[18:40] <caravel> Slart: thanks a lot, I guess my answer is the option "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true". Didn't din it in French translations. Cheers
[18:40] <acicula> edbian, what "other" proper way, you have 3.5"" jacks or optics on consumer hardware
[18:40] <DCGstudios> Roasted_, its also in repos, 'sudo apt-get install sox'
[18:40] <Roasted_> DCGstudios, not to sound stubborn, but no thanks. I have sound converter working on my desktop. it's 10.04. sound converter. mp3. works. Theres no reason my laptop should have to use a different application.
[18:40] <Syco54645> hello all, i am having an issue that when i try to burn a dvd in ubuntu the final product is riddled with crc errors. this drive works fine in windows. i have used k3b, brasero and even xfburn with no luch
[18:40] <sipior> edbian: more expensive ones, certainly.
[18:40] <edbian> acicula, Thanks
[18:40] <Syco54645> what could the issue be?
[18:40] <edbian> sipior, Thanks
[18:40] <jrib> Roasted_: have you installed those packages yet?
[18:40] <Slart> DevilHan: hmm.. I've always just marked the text and used ctrl+shift+c/v.. never tried double clicking
[18:41] <Slart> caravel: you're welcome
[18:41] <Roasted_> jrib, No - did you say if I open totem it prompts me about them?
[18:41] <DevilHan> hmm, it should work with double click
[18:41] <RyanP> I'm work for a school district. We're using an install of Ubuntu Jaunty with OpenOffice in some schools. We had some complaints about inappropriate clip art from the openclipart packages in the writer gallery. I've deleted the images, but the thumbnails still show up. The thumbnails seem to be contained in the openclipart-openoffice.org package as .sdg and .sdv snd .thm., but I don't know how to view or edit those files. Is there anyth
[18:41] <RyanP> ing I can do? Sorry if this got answered, I had some network issues.
[18:41] <Slart> DevilHan: just tried it in a gnome terminal.. middle click pastes whatever I've marked.. if that's what you mean
[18:41] <DevilHan> not double click, but a selection usually copies
[18:41] <DCGstudios> Roasted_, lol doesnt sound 'silly'... sounds pointless and time consuming for no reason.
[18:41] <DevilHan> ok, thanks
[18:41] <Psycho_Mario> hi, are there any gnome terminal emulators which i can have multiple bash sessions running in the same window, like a grid, only one window, but multiple bash prompts for me to use concurrently
[18:42] <jrib> Roasted_: No, I said "often, totem prompts you to install these packages if it needs it".  This was an attempt at explaining how the packages got installed on your desktop.  On your laptop, just install the two packages I mentioned yourself and see if it resolves your issue
[18:42] <Slart> Psycho_Mario: try "terminator"
[18:42] <Roasted_> DCGstudios, that's your opinion, but I disagree. The fn thing should work. I shouldnt have to use different configs from 1 pc to another to another to another.
[18:42] <Roasted_> jrib, thanks - looking into it now
[18:42] <Psycho_Mario> Slart: perfect, thank you
[18:42] <Slart> Psycho_Mario: I'm not sure if it's an addon to gnome-terminal or something you run in a terminal.. but I think it can split windows in all kinds of ways
[18:42] <DCGstudios> Roasted_, it works, your likley not installing correct codecs.
[18:42] <kennyG_> Could someone help me to figure out a application with I can see and edit html email?
[18:42] <Slart> Psycho_Mario: you're welcome
[18:43] <Roasted_> DCGstudios, exactly - I just need to find the differences. that's all. :P
[18:43] <jrib> Roasted_: or just install "ubuntu-restricted-extras" and it will install most things you will probably want at some point
[18:43] <Roasted_> jrib, wait. that was probably it.
[18:43] <mapacha> i need to make ma box a router for ip forwarding...
[18:43] <shane2peru> ok, I put a php file in my public and call it with localhost/file.php and it comes up with a blank page, is my php setup right?  I know it works, because I have drupal running on my local server and it uses php.
[18:43] <Roasted_> yep - not installed. installing now
[18:43] <acicula> !ics
[18:43] <mattia> hi all
[18:44] <mapacha> thanks....
[18:44] <acicula> shane2peru, blank page would suggest that the php page is rendered but doesnt produce output
[18:44] <Roasted_> jrib, is ubuntu-restricted-extras one of those packages that are only legal in some countries?
[18:44] <jrib> Roasted_: I'm not a lawyer
[18:44] <shane2peru> acicula, ahh, that could be the prob, thanks, I guess I will have to look into the php code
[18:45] <Roasted_> jrib, understandable.
[18:45] <jrib> Roasted_: most of these things have never actually been addressed in trial.  And I imagine canonical feels pretty comfortable with whatever it puts in the repositories
[18:46] <acicula> shane2peru, afaik restricted deals with software thats not free in some form or another
[18:46] <DCGstudios> Roasted_, 'sudo apt-get install non-free-codecs mencoder avidemux transcode ffmpeg2theora'
[18:46] <Roasted_> jrib, I thought I remember the big argument was these things just werent allowed to be DISTRIBUTED with ubuntu, but installing them after can depend on individual laws in each country.
[18:47] <Roasted_> DCGstudios, sec - slow interweb here. restricted-extras is still cranking out. curious if that fixed it.
[18:47] <jrib> Roasted_: maybe, I don't know
[18:47] <DCGstudios> Roasted_, the FBI isnt going to come knocking at your door becuase you downloaded a file from a linux repo
[18:47] <aar>  I'm running Kubuntu 9.10. Is it possible to do a system upgrade (to 10.04) using an installation CD, or must I download the files via the internet (through adept)?
[18:47] <Roasted_> DCGstudios, I never said I was even concerned about it. :P I was just curious if it was JUST medibuntu that was the iffy one depending on what country youre in or if ubuntu-restricted-extras was also another package thats in the same boat. That's all I was curious about.
[18:48] <m4tic> kubuntu lternate can update your system i think
[18:48] <jrib> !alternate | aar
[18:48] <m4tic> alternate
[18:48] <SwedeMike> aar: if you actually have a decent internet connection, using on-line upgrade is preferred.
[18:49] <aar> jrib, Thanks
[18:49] <Roasted_> DCGstudios, jrib, restricted-extras was it. mp3 support is now in sound converter. thanks guys
[18:49] <keith_> +i
[18:50] <nerdy_kid> just a general question here; i want kde4.4 -- which debian would i download?
[18:50] <maxxx> hi
[18:51] <DCGstudios> nerdy_kid, none. install it from repos.
[18:51] <sh1ny> nerdy_kid, try asking that in the debian channels ? :)
[18:52] <nerdy_kid> sh1ny DCGstudios ive having trouble with kubuntu, want to test debian in a vm to see if it is effected
[18:52] <Lonia> Hello, I'm the FBI, someone downloaded today from a Linux repo?
[18:52] <m4tic> nerdy_kid or try getting mandriva
[18:52] <Daekdroom> Lonia: I did
[18:52] <LzrdKing> Lonia: lotta people have
[18:52] <m4tic> that's what im using
[18:52] <Lonia> mmmm, there's a place in Guantanamo for people like us, I guess
[18:53] <DCGstudios> nerdy_kid, http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/           FYI kde always has problems, id get used to it.
[18:53] <nerdy_kid> m4tic like mandiva, but prefer debain based cause thats what im used to.  mandriva doesnt seems to be as popular as debain anyway, so im assuming id get less support and probably less packages.
[18:53] <kjele> Lonia: André Rivero jokes makes can hurt you
[18:53] <duffydack> How do I get auto time sync in lucid?  I dont see the option in time/date settings
[18:53] <maxxx> can we retrieve mails form in-box (company mail box)if the ms-office got corrupted.?
[18:54] <nerdy_kid> DCGstudios no this is a kubuntu problem, not a kde one.  chakra doesnt have the problem, niether does mandriva
[18:54] <sh1ny> duffydack, you can try ntpd or ntpdate
[18:54] <duffydack> nevermind, ive found it DUH
[18:54] <Lonia> Hope they don't, jokes are an important part of my time!!
[18:54] <m4tic> nerdy_kid not entirely, i have apt-get and it works just as in debian, you install synaptic and some repos
[18:54] <sh1ny> duffydack, first one preferred, since ntpdate is "deprecated"
[18:54] <esr> I just upgraded to Lucid Lynx and don't see the much-hyped "Me Menu".  How do I enable this thing?
[18:54] <DCGstudios> !ask | nerdy_kid
[18:54] <kjele> !ot | lonia
[18:54] <acicula> Roasted, ubuntu-restricted-extras entails a slew of programs that are not freely licensed but restricted in some way or another like mp3 technology is not "free", but libdvdcss "circumvents" a protection technology which may or may not be legal etc
[18:55] <Inviscr> hey is there a line that i can put into /etc/network/interfaces to auto recconect
[18:55] <GeekSquid> sh1ny: nope ... duffydack: sudo apt-get install ntp .... by default ntpdate is installed, which doesn't do it automatically
[18:55] <Lonia> thanks ubottu
[18:55] <nerdy_kid> m4tic you can install apt in mandriva?
[18:55] <lancesrage> Can anyone help me with this cedega dependency thing
[18:55] <Inviscr> because my router sucks and it doesnt always connect
[18:55] <GeekSquid> sh1ny: ntpd is used to run a ntp server
[18:55] <acicula> Roasted, its the same hubhub about x.264 thats being used now, which is free to use (now) but is not free technology
[18:56] <sh1ny> GeekSquid, and ? it syncs the time on your machine also
[18:56] <Inviscr> so unless i restart a couple of times it wont connect
[18:56] <nerdy_kid> DCGstudios: right click in dolphin/konquerer is slow, details here: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=87967&p=158583#p158583
[18:56] <Lonia> goodbye and goodluck
[18:56] <mapacha> how to chang the right permission on my ubuntu....  am new to this.... i cannot save no delete anythin from my desktop...
[18:56] <duffydack> GeekSquid, system, admin, time and date :)
[18:56] <maxxx> can we retrieve mails form in-box (company mail box)if the ms-office got corrupted.? or will i loose my mails.?
[18:56] <DCGstudios> nerdy_kid, that a kde problem.
[18:56] <m4tic> nerdy_kid yep
[18:57] <sh1ny> GeekSquid, the point is if you don't run ntpdate every minute or so your clock can still drift and if it drifts enough you will have huge steps backwards or forward
[18:57] <kjele> !enter | Inviscr
[18:57] <sh1ny> GeekSquid, which some software doesn't like very much
[18:57] <madjoe> How much space does it take on disk for opening just a single user account (approx.)?
[18:57] <Inviscr> sorry
[18:57] <nerdy_kid> DCGstudios nope.  like i said, neither chakera (kde4.4) or mandriva(4.3) have this issue.  THat tells me that it is a ubuntu problem.  I am going to download debian to see if it effects debian.
[18:58] <kjele> madjoe: need like 0mb-10mb. Just remember you cannot save stuff then
[18:58] <eddy> hi all, i have a lilttle problem, i have a dual-boot Windows XP/Lucid 10.04 and right after i installed lucid, i lost my internet connection in Windows but in lucid i have it working perfectly : my connection is a ADSL
[18:58] <DCGstudios> nerdy_kid, I dont think you understand KDE, realistically.. the last STABLE release was 3.2.  Im sure if you used gnome youd never have the problem in the first place.
[18:58] <madjoe> kjele: cannot save stuff?
[18:58] <lancesrage> hello?
[18:59] <m4tic> i have no problem with my KDE
[18:59] <kjele> madjoe: Like videos files you downloaded. If you notice every user setting is downloaded to your home.
[18:59] <ForgeAus> 3.5.10 was pretty stable afaik
[18:59] <maximus_> HELP )= I've been having issues burning cd's and dvd's....both brasero and k3b have an error after writing about 10% of the disk  "wodim: A write error occured"  and "wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits."  "write track data: error after 32577552 bytes"
[18:59] <maxxx> Anyone ms-office expert! require some help (retrieve mails)!
[18:59] <ForgeAus> not sure if it was technically marked as stable however
[18:59] <kjele> madjoe: Well you asked for minimum
[18:59] <skunx> is update-manager -d enough to install lucid from a karmic ?
[18:59] <DCGstudios> nerdy_kid, What it comes down to.. it looks pretty.. and has shiny buttons.. and acts like windows. cool. Except for that its never fast, or an efficient DE.
[19:00] <nerdy_kid> DCGstudio dont start bashing kde please :) ive used 4.3.0 all the way to 4.4.3 and it is quite stable.  I am not switching back to gnome.  (i was a gnome user)
[19:00] <ForgeAus> ms-office does mails?
[19:00] <jrib> !upgrade | skunx: no, that is not correct.  Please see:
[19:00] <m4tic> maximus_ i think its time you start shopping for a new drive
[19:00] <madjoe> kjele: I want to open an account for my sister with minimum privileges... just for surfing the Internet.. but I'm kind of short with the disk space...
[19:00] <kjele> skunx: update-manager should just do.
[19:00] <skunx> jrib: thx
[19:00] <ForgeAus> nerdykid even gnome has some interesting things to add to kde
[19:00] <ForgeAus> like gnome-do
[19:00] <maximus_> m4tic: with nero i never had a problem..i'm tired of rebooting just to write a disk.so writer is not the problem. HL GH20LS10
[19:00] <ForgeAus> and/or docky
[19:00] <DCGstudios> nerdy_kid, im not bashing kde, Iv used all DEs for 6 years and im giving you the exact review any knowledgeable linux user would.
[19:01] <kjele> madjoe: Well just make a new account for her. But her settings will take a some space. If she does not download a lot then 50mb should do.
[19:01] <ForgeAus> plus I like aislrot's games list!
[19:01] <LjL> DCGstudios: except a few other people here are not. please, this channel is not for spreading FUD. if you can't help with his KDE problem, don't, but there is no need to tell him to change car.
[19:01] <madjoe> kjele: sometimes I give her a guest account, but when my screen is locked there's no way she could unlock it without a normal account...
[19:02] <ForgeAus> actually kubuntu-desktop is a far better KDE for ubuntu than ubuntu-desktop + kde is traditionally, not sure about currently,,,
[19:02] <maximus_> DCGstudios: know anything about k3b and brasero?
[19:02] <GeekSquid> madjoe: she can switch user and login as herself, yes?
[19:02] <nerdy_kid> ForgeAus yeah im not trying to start a flamewar here people, i like kde, you like gnome, everyones happy.  I've used both.  Neither is better then the other IMO.
[19:02] <m4tic> is nero free?
[19:02] <kjele> GeekSquid: She does not have an account yet
[19:02] <ForgeAus> hehe nerdy-kid thats not what I said I prefer kubuntu
[19:02] <maxxx> both are one and the same.
[19:02] <DCGstudios> maximus_, They are both CD writing applications?
[19:02] <psusi> m4tic: no
[19:02] <Susanne> Hey People! Anyone who disabled SELINUX in ubuntu 10? It seems to be a big pain in the ass.
[19:03] <madjoe> kjele: yes, if I open a normal account, but I was worried about the needed space for it
[19:03] <m4tic> nerdy_kid im wit ya
[19:03] <ForgeAus> I'm just saying I'm trying to be open-minded about gnome and there are some things it offers
[19:03] <madjoe> GeekSquid: yes, if I open a normal account, but I was worried about the needed space for it
[19:03] <ForgeAus> (aside from a default OSX-alike theme these days)
[19:03] <kjele> madjoe: Do not. She will feel it if there is no space left. Like you would
[19:03] <GeekSquid> madjoe: let me see how much space is created by a new account, I have plenty of space to do so
[19:03] <madjoe> GeekSquid: thanks, man
[19:03] <maxxx> maximus_: both are the same!!
[19:03] <maximus_> DCGstudios: yeh...well I have a problem and u  said u been using for years...so...ever had a prob where nero (XP) can write disks fine but Ubuntu has constant probs writing?
[19:04] <DCGstudios> nerdy_kid, Ljl, My point is, you never see people come in here complaining about glitchy gnome enviourments, there IS a reason ubuntu dev team choose gnome natively.
[19:04] <ForgeAus> although Apple moved onto the green reeds look around snowleopard if not before, not sure what it is currently
[19:04] <nerdy_kid> ForgeAus yeah i got what you were saying, i was kinda responding toDCGStudios.  I like and use both DEs :)  just prefer kde on my lappy :)
[19:04] <eddy> is anyone can help me about it?
[19:04] <ForgeAus> KDE is a glitchy environment?
[19:04] <ForgeAus> when did that happen?
[19:04] <DCGstudios> ForgeAus, Since 3.3
[19:04] <joebodo> maximus_, you might want to try burning at a lower speed
[19:04] <nerdy_kid> 4.4.3 is rock solid here
[19:04] <LjL> DCGstudios: of course you see people complaining about gnome, this channel is full of it. and we have a very official KDE Ubuntu, Kubuntu, which is supported. so again, that's just FUD which i don't find welcome.
[19:05] <DCGstudios> nerdy_kid, rock solid enough to come here becuase you cant even click a desktop icon?
[19:05] <maximus_> maxxx: well the problem has always been there, from 8.10 till now (10.4). I've never been able to succeed in writing a cd...
[19:05] <m4tic> KDE rocks, i dread ever starting with gnome, not saying it sucks but i hate the fact that i missed out
[19:05] <ForgeAus> DCGstudios: I've been using KDE for a while now I havn't know it to be glitchy, an glitches I've come across were mostly my own doing ..
[19:05] <Roasted_> I changed some ID tags to some of my music, but rhythmbox didnt auto update them. How can I get rhythmbox to re-sync with my music library to sort th emusic accordingly by the ID tags?
[19:05] <madjoe> kjele: so there are no worries for 50MB or so.. you think I should open a normal account for her, right? and if I delete her account and her home dir, will it be some garbage left by default on my Karmic?
[19:05] <maxxx> maximus_: Out put the error!
[19:05] <Roasted_> m4tic, that's a matter of opinion. Some users like things working.
[19:05] <sh1ny> KDE is very cool looking and very functional, i am just more used to gnome, but bashing the other one doesn't really achieve anything
[19:05] <ForgeAus> and I"m sure even gnome is far from bug-free...
[19:06] <Roasted_> Gnome has its issues, but I find KDE does some things I have to sit back and think - "Really?... REALLY?"
[19:06] <DCGstudios> ForgeAus, Ljl,  system resource wise, gnome > kde, reliability wise gnome > kde, and stability wise gnome > kde, if you want shiny icons kde > gnome
[19:06] <m4tic> roasted_ what's not working, mine works so your statement does not apply
[19:06] <nerdy_kid> DCGstudios obviously you didnt listen very well to me.  in fact you didnt even read the forum post i gave you.
[19:06] <Pici> Newsflash, different people like different desktop environments.
[19:06] <kjele> madjoe: No. An account is just recorded in /etc/shadow /etc/passwd and /home
[19:06] <Pici> !ot
[19:06] <DCGstudios> nerdy_kid, The entire 3 posts?
[19:06] <joebodo> DCGstudios, you forgot to mention usability -
[19:06] <Roasted_> m4tic, I've had a lot of widget crahses, but those are minor, I can deal with that. My big problem is the fact that getting sound properly working can be a major cluster fk
[19:06] <maxxx> Anyone expert on MS-Exchange server-
[19:07] <Roasted_> m4tic, I've been through the motions with installing different things and adjusting the level of preferences in which KDE selects which sound controller to use or whatever. I forget what all I did.
[19:07] <DCGstudios> joebodo, I guess if your used to windows, then KDE would be easier to use at first them gnome, yes
[19:07] <maximus_> maxxx: there are a couple things I can post.....wodim: A write error occured.... /usr/bin/wodim: A write error occured.....write track data: error after 32577552 byte
[19:07] <Roasted_> m4tic, I just gave up, because I began to realize KDE is pretty fricken sweet, but has a way to go before I would ever "rely" on it.
[19:07] <tatofoo> I've installed bazaar but it doesn't recognize the lp: abbreviation, did I forget to install something?
[19:07] <xorwhy> My Nvidia sometimes loads, and sometimes doesn't. It's seemingly random when it will choose to work. Please help
[19:07] <ForgeAus> nerdy_kid: what was your original problem?
[19:07] <Pici> maxxx: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.  If you are looking for Exchange/Windows support, it would be better to ask in ##windows
[19:07] <abstrakt> hi, so i have a conundrum :/
[19:07] <kjele> madjoe: But if she get access to other places she might write files there. But when you delete her account you can give the option to delete all files owned by her.
[19:07] <m4tic> Roasted_ that's why there are lots of DE, you like yours i like mine no prob
[19:08] <olskolirc> i ran a netstat -tn what does this mean and how come i can't host to the ip: tcp    25251      0 98.236.8.71:44329       66.90.121.3:10009       ESTABLISHED
[19:08] <Roasted_> m4tic, agreed there man. I love having so many choices available.
[19:08] <abstrakt> i've installed 10.04 now twice
[19:08] <DCGstudios> ForgeAus, He has a 'delay when clicking konquerer icon'      a general KDE bug.
[19:08] <abstrakt> and i had the same issue eventually both times
[19:08] <maxxx> Pici : cool ! thanks
[19:08] <madjoe> kjele: is there such thing as guest (normal) login with predefined low level permissions?
[19:08] <m4tic> roasted_ have you tried flux?
[19:08] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: What issue?
[19:08] <thedude42> xorwhy: you mean on boot/resume from sleep/standby...?
[19:08] <olskolirc> 66.90.121.3 on port 10009 who is this?
[19:08] <Roasted_> m4tic, I look at it like this. DE's are like beer. I for one hate light beer. My buddy loves it. But who cares? We're all having a good time whether we're drinkin light/dark or usin kde/gnome.
[19:08] <red> is there any application for controlling a laptops touchpad settings?
[19:08] <netuser> hi all
[19:08] <Roasted_> m4tic, I have not.
[19:08] <ratcheer> xorwhy: aRE YOU ALWAYS BOOTING THE SAME KERNEL?
[19:08] <abstrakt> my system fully freezes (stops responding and then the mouse stops responding) and after a hard reboot i get confronted with a prompt that says (initramfs)
[19:09] <madjoe> kjele: can you guide me to open something for her with some minimal requirements for the web
[19:09] <nerdy_kid> ForgeAus I was looking for the debian version i should download to get kde4.4 (not familar with the release system)
[19:09] <kjele> madjoe: All new account you make now will be normal account with no root permission
[19:09] <ForgeAus> uh you can preload konqueror in the options somewhere (it should start it quicker
[19:09] <maximus_> maxxx: any place you think i can find help? Oh, and model is a GH20LS10 (Hitachi LG)
[19:09] <xorwhy> thedude42: boot yes, resume i do not use
[19:09] <abstrakt> it does find grub, and i can boot into my windows half, which i'm on right now
[19:09] <DCGstudios> red, acctually theres setting in the mouse preferences
[19:09] <madjoe> kjele: oh, cool
[19:09] <javier__> hey
[19:09] <xorwhy> ratcheer, I only have one kernel to boot to so, yes
[19:09] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: oh
[19:09] <ratcheer> Sorry about the caps - lock was on by mistake.
[19:09] <javier__> i need some help
[19:09] <redeyedshade> Fellas, I need some help.
[19:09] <m4tic> roasted_ you'd be fine with it, minimalistic, KDE's way to big for ya
[19:09] <DCGstudios> nerdy_kid, i gave you the link after your first post
[19:09] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: I think someone else had a similar issue last night, maybe
[19:09] <abstrakt> i have a few ideas on what the problem is
[19:09]  * javier__ i need help!!!
[19:09] <ForgeAus> I don't know if a delay in loading itunless its likemnutes long is much to worry abou
[19:09] <VCoolio> !ask
[19:09] <thedude42> xorwhy: are you using the restricted driver, or did you download and compile one from nvidia.com?
[19:09] <sebsebseb> !help | javier__
[19:09] <abstrakt> first i thought maybe it was the nvidia driver conflicting with the realtime kernel
[19:09] <kjele> madjoe: adduser username
[19:10] <DCGstudios> nerdy_kid, http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/        took me a total of 2 seconds to type 'debian kde' into google.
[19:10] <red> DCGstudios: well when I was setting up the installation the touchpad worked, after installation completed and Im sitting on the desktop the touchpad stopped working but the little joystick thingy in center of the keyboard still works.
[19:10] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: realtime kernel?
[19:10] <abstrakt> so on next reinstall i did install the nvidia driver, but then removed it before rebooting into the realtime kernel
[19:10] <red> So I was wondering where to toggle it back.
[19:10] <kjele> madjoe: It is very simple command
[19:10] <ratcheer> xorwhy: I can think of no other reason for the driver to work sometimes, but not others.
[19:10] <Roasted_> m4tic, I dont know - I like gnome because I feel like its a good balance between looking decent (when you take the 14 seconds to customize it) vs just working when I need it. I'd no doubt like to try it, but it may take a bit for me to jump ship :P
[19:10] <abstrakt> sebsebseb, yes it's a low latency kernel, it's what comes with Ubuntu Studio
[19:10] <madjoe> kjele: and for a user deletion?
[19:10] <redeyedshade> I have a Toshiba Satellite L505-S5984 Laptop and I can't seem to find drivers for my wireless card, any ideas?
[19:10] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: oh
[19:10] <xorwhy> thedude42, I have tried both, a few different from nvidia.com and a couple versions from restricted driver manager. All have the same result
[19:10] <abstrakt> sebsebseb, but i didn't isntall studio, i just installed vanilla 10.04
[19:10] <maxxx> maximus_: what are you using k3b or brasero ??
[19:10] <sebsebseb> !studio | abstrakt
[19:10] <painkiller> my compiz not running automatically on logon
[19:10] <xorwhy> thedude42, I know that's what is most frustrating of all. There seems to be no logical cause to this
[19:10] <kjele> madjoe: then it is "deluser username"
[19:10] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: there's a channel for Ubuntu Studio
[19:10] <abstrakt> and then i just manually sudo apt-get install linux-rt
[19:10] <jack_singh> i don't know why but my machine is adding a new disk as a spare in raid1
[19:10] <abstrakt> oh ok
[19:10] <Roasted_> How can I get rhythmbox to re-scan my music library? I changed some ID tags and rhythmbox didnt update them.
[19:11] <xorwhy> I am seriously so pissed off.
[19:11] <DCGstudios> red, so it isnt working at all now?
[19:11] <madjoe> kjele: and if I want to delete ALL files in my system created by username?
[19:11] <jack_singh> how can i make the RAID1 without any spare
[19:11] <abstrakt> sebsebseb, and what's that channel?
[19:11] <xorwhy> I would rather it not work at all than intermittent
[19:11] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: the bot just told you
[19:11] <ForgeAus> oh yeah thats right compiz comes as part of ubuntu-desktop now
[19:11] <kjele> madjoe: But for you, you might want to user "deluser --remove-all-files usename"
[19:11] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: #ubuntustudio
[19:11] <abstrakt> oh duh, lol
[19:11] <painkiller> can any assistance my compiz not running automatically on logon
[19:11] <DCGstudios> ForgeAus, Yes it does, but you need to install compiz-config-settings-manager to  tweak it
[19:11] <llutz> madjoe: man find  (-uid)
[19:11] <madjoe> kjele: excellent! I'll create one for her.. cool!
[19:12] <jack_singh> can any one help
[19:12] <abstrakt> well i think it might be applicable here as well, i'm not using the ubuntustudio-desktop package i'm just using the realtime kernel
[19:12] <maximus_> maxxx: those errors are common to both...i use both, they both dont work. Nero in windows works PERFECTLY every time, but I'm sick of hanging onto windows just to burn
[19:12] <abstrakt> anyway i'll go over there
[19:12] <sebsebseb> !ask | jack_singh
[19:12] <madjoe> llutz: wasn't that enough that kjele proposed? deluser --remove-all-files usename
[19:12] <jack_singh> my raid1 has 2 disks
[19:12] <joebodo> painkiller, system->preferences->visual effects->extra
[19:12] <dtminsk> Anyone have ideas on how to install a
[19:12] <llutz> madjoe: sorry, haven't read it, should be sufficient
[19:12] <dtminsk>  1. RTL8169S/SB/SC (Gigabit Ethernet with PCI interface)
[19:12] <thedude42> xorwhy: I've had some issues that seemed to be X/nvidia related, but when I looked in the logs it was other kernel modules that were misbehaving and causing strange memory issues that would lead to some applications segfaulting, which would of course have all kinds of side effects including X pegging one of my CPU cores to 100%
[19:12] <jack_singh> and mdadm is saying 1 is spare
[19:12] <madjoe> llutz: splendid
[19:12] <m4tic> jack your flooding the channel
[19:12] <jack_singh> i do not want a spare disk
[19:12] <jack_singh> how do i modify that
[19:13] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm looking for a way to print to my CUPS printer over-the-air from my android phone. Anyone have any ideas?
[19:13] <jack_singh> i just want it to be mirrored
[19:13] <Pici> !enter | jack_singh
[19:13] <markus_> hy everybody
[19:13] <DCGstudios> kkerwin, Was a nightmare when i tryed it lol
[19:13] <xorwhy> thedude42, interesting
[19:13] <olskolirc> can we use a cyborg keyboard on linux?
[19:13] <m4tic> roasted_ rythmbox if i remember has a checkbox is the pref menu to watch new files, check if t works
[19:13] <maxxx> maximus_: what are you trying to burn!!
[19:13] <kkerwin> DCGstudios: Have a how-to?
[19:13] <jack_singh> How do i ensure that raid is just mirroring and not using the second disk as spare
[19:14] <xorwhy> I guess I'll do an apt upgrade, take the shotgun approach
[19:14] <Roasted_> m4tic, good call - let me check that hizzy out
[19:14] <DCGstudios> kkerwin, Umm.. recently did a fresh install but ill see if i can find it
[19:14] <Roasted_> m4tic, already checked. haaa....
[19:14] <kkerwin> DCGstudios: Thanks.
[19:14] <painkiller> thank you
[19:14] <thedude42> xorwhy: in my case I have had to go and edit my upstart jobs to force things like kvm not to load at boot
[19:14] <DCGstudios> kkerwin, are you using a droid?
[19:14] <m4tic> roasted_ did it work?
[19:14] <jack_singh> !pici can you help
[19:14] <kkerwin> DCGstudios: Yes.
[19:14] <DCGstudios> kkerwin, kk
[19:14] <maximus_> maxxx: the last i tried was an audio cd from ogg files...conversion was successfull, started to burn and failed after the first song (about 30mb into the disk)
[19:15] <m4tic> ubottu all this time i thought it was a person?
[19:15] <Roasted_> m4tic, so far no. I still see two instances of hte same band. I made a typo on the one album so I saw they came up twice, but even tho I changed the ID tags rhythmbox hasnt seen them as a "whole" yet
[19:15] <madjoe> kjele: deluser --remove-all-files USERNAME > after that I don't have to manually delete anything and there will be no garbage left, and I'll return my 50MB, right?
[19:15] <xorwhy> thedude42, I suspected upstart, killed some tty's
[19:15] <DCGstudios> kkerwin, So your thinking like a network printer right?
[19:15] <kjele> madjoe: yes
[19:15] <kkerwin> DCGstudios: Yes.
[19:15] <Pici> jack_singh: I cannot, but its not easy to track what you are asking if you press return every three words.  You may have better luck asking in #ubuntu-server though.
[19:15] <ToothPick> hi, does anyone know why the command  apt-get install tightvncserver  doesn't work?
[19:16] <madjoe> kjele: sorry for double checking, but it's important for me, so I have to be sure... thanks for your help and kind support
[19:16] <sebsebseb> ToothPick: sudo
[19:16] <maxxx> maximus_: was it only the audio cd or is there data cd's too.
[19:16] <michele> italiano
[19:16] <m4tic> roasted_ over the times i found that i couldn't change tags because of filetypes
[19:16] <kjele> madjoe: You might want to user users-admin a bit more friendlier
[19:16] <thedude42> xorwhy: if your issue is anything related to what I experienced, /var/log/syslog will have things that will tell you
[19:16] <sebsebseb> !it | michele
[19:16] <Loshki> maxxx: which os, which app, what burner, and what media?
[19:16] <ToothPick> I'm trying the command "sudo apt-get install tightvncserver" But it can not find the package
[19:16] <sebsebseb> ToothPick: sudo apt-get install program
[19:16] <madjoe> kjele: sorry I didn't get the last part?
[19:16] <ToothPick> i am root anyway
[19:17] <xorwhy> thedude42, thanks I appreciate it
[19:17] <Roasted_> m4tic, I CAN change tags. the tags are changed. I just goofed on 1 set of tags so instead of "Days of the New" I have a second instance of "Days Of The New"
[19:17] <m4tic> toothpick make sure you have updated your sources
[19:17] <kjele> madjoe: There is a gui program, users-admin, which let you add and remove user too. A bit more friendlier than the commands.
[19:17] <sebsebseb> ToothPick: might need to enable a repo for it, plus there are proper ways to use VNC
[19:17] <sebsebseb> !vnc > ToothPick
[19:17] <Roasted_> m4tic, I adjusted the caps so I should see EVERYTHING in Days of the New now, but rhythmbox just hasnt updated.
[19:17] <kjele> madjoe: It comes default so you do not have to install it
[19:17] <maximus_> audio and data...Over the past 2 years of using ubuntu, I've begun to think it just doesnt like my writer...though its never given any probs with Nero...
[19:18] <maximus_> maxxx: audio and data...Over the past 2 years of using ubuntu, I've begun to think it just doesnt like my writer...though its never given any probs with Nero...
[19:18] <madjoe> kjele: does it offer something I could use, because those two simple lines are easy peasy enough... and I don't need to occupy extra space with applications :)
[19:18] <brontosaurusrex> maximus_: i have similar experience here
[19:18] <joebodo> maximus_, did you try burning at a lower speed ?
[19:18] <dtminsk> 1. RTL8169S/SB/SC (Gigabit Ethernet with PCI interface) sorry to repeat but is there anyone that might be able help me install this NIC?
[19:18] <madjoe> kjele: oh, it's the default app... cool
[19:18] <m4tic> roasted_ change the tags (make sure you highlight all them) something like hhh then restart rythmbox, change to Days of the New
[19:18] <maximus_> brontosaurusrex: please tell me about ur problem....
[19:19] <brontosaurusrex> brontosaurusrex: lots of coasters
[19:19] <maximus_> maxxx: could it have anyting to do with /usr/bin/wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits. and would "sudo chmod 4755 /usr/bin/wodim" help?
[19:19] <henkboom_> For some reason my indicator applet envelope icon is green, even though when I click on it there are no new notifications. Why?
[19:19] <joebodo> maximus_, did you try burning at a lower speed ?
[19:19] <madjoe> kjele: how to find out exactly how many space left on my ubuntu disk drive?
[19:19] <maximus_> brontosaurusrex: I dont think I've ever had a successful burn in ubuntu...)=
[19:19] <Loshki> dtminsk: I see hits in google. People seem to have had a lot of trouble with that particular NIC...
[19:19] <kjele> madjoe: df -h
[19:20] <maximus_> joebodo: I'll give your suggestion a try
[19:20] <ForgeAus> use k3b!
[19:20] <mat69> is there a way to create an urban terror deb with the downloaded files, so that it is installed for every user?
[19:20] <ForgeAus> what does gnome use for a dvd burner?
[19:20] <caravel> Slart: I could try, and I confirm -- kermel option required here, to run the Alternate off a usb stick. cheers
[19:20] <maxxx> maximus_: try Debian servers they will fix the problems for you .
[19:21] <m4tic> maximus_ i had the same problem, only that my drive can only burn cd/rw ,dvd/rw and not cd/r and dvd/r
[19:21] <madjoe> kjele: wow! still 2G left... lol :) at least it says for /dev/loop0 mounted on /
[19:21] <Slart> caravel: ah.. nice to know the wiki has some useful info
[19:21] <ForgeAus> hehehe madjoe using wubi?
[19:21] <hello-man> how can i configure mail?
[19:21] <kjele> madjoe: What about /home ?
[19:22] <madjoe> ForgeAus: yes :)
[19:22] <caravel> Slart: as always -- as long as you know in which wiki localisation you need to start searching
[19:22] <ForgeAus> madjoe: me too :)
[19:22] <Slart> caravel: indeed =)
[19:22] <ToothPick> I'm trying the command "sudo apt-get install tightvncserver" But it can not find the package, I have my apt-get updated and upgraded
[19:22] <ForgeAus> df -h gives diskspace on commandline
[19:22] <dookie> can i change partition-size with gparted without loosing the data and files on the harddisk?
[19:22] <caravel> goodbye everybody
[19:22] <ToothPick> ubottu didn't help because it says to install tightvnc anyway
[19:22] <madjoe> kjele: /home is on 53% (use) avail: 1.7G
[19:22] <barberan> How do I read files from my linux parrtition from windows-7 OS ?
[19:22] <ForgeAus> dookie thats kinda a loaded question
[19:22] <sebsebseb> ToothPick: make sure it's called that, and check you have the repo enabled that it's in.  system > preferences > software sources
[19:22] <kjele> madjoe: oh I never tried wubi. Well 1.7g is enought
[19:22] <Slart> !info tightvncserver
[19:22] <maximus_> m4tic: come to think of it, I also think i can successfully burn RW's. Did u ever find a solution?
[19:23] <Slart> ToothPick: it's in universe.. you have that repository enabled, right?
[19:23] <ToothPick> what do u mean?
[19:23] <kjele> madjoe: If you delete the windows installation he get more space :)
[19:23] <ForgeAus> I'm using 20g hav only used less than half and htats with chrooting to bootstrapped full distros!
[19:23] <sebsebseb> ToothPick: make sure universe is enabled
[19:23] <madjoe> kjele: cool... I'll install 10.04 as my default OS, but I've heard some trash talk regarding some issues with it.. so I'll just wait for a month or two... :)
[19:23] <m4tic> nope, rw are better and cheaper compared to R's unless you plan on giving away your discs?
[19:23] <ToothPick> universe is on pause
[19:23] <WakkaWakka> the discs into
[19:24] <sebsebseb> madjoe: trash talk such as?
[19:24] <Slart> ToothPick: there are different repositories for different kinds of software.. you can enable/disable them in system, administration, software sources
[19:24] <kjele> madjoe: Can always try the livecd
[19:24] <ForgeAus> wubi seems quite stable to me
[19:24] <sebsebseb> Wubi uhmm
[19:24] <sebsebseb> No! in the long run
[19:24] <madjoe> kjele: I wish I could.. I need that Photoshop and crappy IE6 to check some of my work there for losers that still use IE
[19:24] <sebsebseb> for short term Ubuntu testing, ok
[19:24] <ToothPick> Slart: I don't have a desktop
[19:24] <kjele> madjoe: people still use IE6?
[19:24] <Vroomfondle> a lot of people still do
[19:24] <sebsebseb> kjele: sadly a lot of businesses still do
[19:25] <madjoe> sebsebseb: I dunno.. that something doesn't work as it should, stability etc.. they said it here on channel and switched back to Karmic
[19:25] <Vroomfondle> especially workers in various businesses and governments around the world
[19:25] <Slart> ToothPick: oh.. not sure if there is a tool to do it or if you have to edit your sources.list manually
[19:25] <sebsebseb> madjoe: oh your on Karmic?
[19:25] <abstrakt> so what do i need to do to restore my system
[19:25] <joebodo> roughly 23% of people use ie6
[19:25] <madjoe> sebsebseb: yeah
[19:25] <sebsebseb> madjoe: ok :)
[19:25] <abstrakt> i get stuck on an initramfs prompt directly after grub
[19:25] <sebsebseb> madjoe: that's ok then
[19:25] <abstrakt> i get no ubuntu, not even a "regular" login prompt
[19:25] <sebsebseb> madjoe: you got untill the end of October  untill karmic goes end of life, no more security updates
[19:25] <madjoe> kjele: no, not people.. morons use IE6. and for those morons I have to waste my life.
[19:26] <ToothPick> "repository", "sources.list" thanks, i think it should be enough for google :)
[19:26] <ToothPick> and btw
[19:26] <sebsebseb> madjoe: morons heh?  true loads of businesss have morons setting up their IT and that, hence still using IE 6
[19:26] <amokpaule> Hello, i have 2 screens here and im using nvidia twin view. When i chose another wallpaper it gets steched over both screens. Can i do it that every screen has the wallpaper?
[19:26] <kjele> madjoe: Can always change job
[19:26] <ToothPick> is this "repository" for tightvnc or for apt-get ?
[19:26] <olivr> i have some trouble with Warning: Found a partial ImageMagick installation. Your operating system likely has some built-in ImageMagick libraries but not all of ImageMagick. This will most likely cause problems at both compile and runtime.
[19:26] <Slart> ToothPick: this might be useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[19:26] <hello-man> please help to configure email
[19:26] <madjoe> sebsebseb: that's enough time for me.. this is just a wubi.. a test drive.. my new laptop will be driven by new Ubuntu on dedicated disk partition :)
[19:26] <sebsebseb> madjoe: that and they may have intranet stuff that needs IE 6, and they can't be bothered to pay someone to re do it properly
[19:26] <olivr> i dont what to do :(
[19:27] <maximus_> m4tic: looks like I can also write cd/rw's fine. Whats up with that? find a solution?
[19:27] <abstrakt> anyone?
[19:27] <Rad-> Hi!
[19:27] <Rad-> XD
[19:27] <abstrakt> know what to do when you get stuck on (initramfs) and a black screen?
[19:27] <madjoe> sebsebseb: oh well.. just a bunch of idiots.. I'm sick and tired of IE6 for the lifetime :)
[19:28] <Loshki> olivr: You could try reinstalling imagemagick. From synaptic is probably easiest....
[19:28] <m4tic> the drives are old i guess, mine is some 6 years
[19:28] <sebsebseb> madjoe: same here,  one reason I didn't  get really into website creation
[19:28] <merphy> I want to run tomcat on ubuntu, I cant not connect to the manager
[19:28] <olivr> Loshki i have X install
[19:28] <olivr> i dont*
[19:28] <maximus_> m4tic: no wait...i take that back...the cd/rw just failed too
[19:29] <maximus_> m4tic: this sucks so bad...my drive is only 2 years old...
[19:29] <m4tic> maximus_ spoke too soon, wht was the max write speed
[19:29] <kjele> madjoe: Well goo luck
[19:29] <GeekSquid> madjoe: you were asking about space for a new user, not much really less than 100k
[19:29] <gps23> why does ubuntu uses apt-get in the backend for its update-manager when aptitude is clearly better?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[19:29] <maximus_> m4tic: 10x
[19:29] <iceroot> merphy: then install the manager first
[19:29] <ToothPick> Slart: mind if you could copy here your repos file?
[19:29] <merphy> i have installed
[19:29] <madjoe> kjele: thanks again, man
[19:29] <sebsebseb> madjoe: 7 and 8 aren't that much bettter really, but apparantly 9 will take web standards much more seriously
[19:29] <GeekSquid> gps23: aptitude uses apt-get
[19:29] <abstrakt> i've googled for this but i don't see a solution
[19:29] <madjoe> GeekSquid: wow! amazing! thanks a lot dude!
[19:29] <Loshki> olivr: If you don't have X11, you're presumably not going to be using imagemagick much :-) so it's probably not important, but anyway, you can try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall imagemagick
[19:29] <maco> gps23: theres really not a whole lot of difference nowadays. apt-get has caught up quite a bit. the only difference i can think of nowadays is that aptitude suggests ways of resolving conflicts
[19:29] <Slart> ToothPick: sure.. no worries.. I'm on 64bit lucid desktop though.. but hang on let me pastebin my sources.list
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Gps23: neither is better or the other wouldn't be used or developed
[19:30] <madjoe> sebsebseb: I know... :(
[19:30] <ToothPick> Slart: thank you very much :)
[19:30] <maximus_> m4tic: it got exactly half way (62mb of 124mb) and froze.
[19:30] <ForgeAus> hmm i wonder if apt-rpm ('s apt-get) can work thru aptitude too ... (nothing to do with ubuntu anyway)
[19:30] <LzrdKing> aptitude is a front-end for apt
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Gps23: both have advantages and disadvantages. There is no better or best
[19:30] <m4tic> maximus_ mine also peaks at 10x these days, i usually got around 15x, try different brands of cds you might find thats the solution, did you check the logs?
[19:30] <madjoe> sebsebseb: well, I'm primarily oriented in building social networking sites and some SSL-oriented sites with money transfer, so I really feel pain when I have to deal with these browser-oriented issues :(
[19:30] <Slart> ToothPick: http://pastebin.com/TmpbYuNi
[19:30] <sebsebseb> madjoe: oh ok
[19:30] <maximus_> HELP...k3b error      cdrecorder has no permision to open the device
[19:31] <gps23> maco: ActionParsnip: i know the difference and hence i use aptitude when i install from command line but when ubuntu do auto update etc then it uses apt-get so both of these get used on my system
[19:31] <ToothPick> thanks very much :)
[19:31] <ToothPick> i hope it works
[19:31] <olivr> Loshki: its for rmagic, a ruby
[19:31] <Loshki> LzrdKing: actually, strictly speaking, aptitude and apt-get are both front-ends for dpkg...
[19:31] <maximus_> m4tic: k3b reports a permission error?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Maximus_: does it work if you launch it with kdesu
[19:31] <Loshki> olivr: never heard of rmagic, but the solution is the same....
[19:31] <abid> Does anyone know the function of gvfsd
[19:31] <LzrdKing> m4tic: you should burn at the lowest speed you can to avoidn read errors later
[19:31] <LzrdKing> i burn at 1x
[19:32] <maximus_> ActionParsnip: I'll give it a try now, thanks
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Gp23: I've personally never used aptitude as apt-get has always been flawless
[19:32] <Loshki> maximus_: what is the device name for your burner that k3b/cdrecorder is using?
[19:32] <madjoe> sebsebseb: I only wait for some loser to call me one day and tell me that he just installed Netscape 2.9 he found in one of his boxes from 1993. and that his website is not working...
[19:32] <Loshki> gps23: what ActionParsnip said...
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Gp23: if you want an answer to your question I suggest you contact canonical directly
[19:33] <pr0ton> hi everybody
[19:33] <m4tic> maximus_ i'm using mandriva so the commands might be diff, run k3b as root from the konsole
[19:33] <pr0ton> i've got 9.10 on Hard Disk A
[19:33] <tallulah> hi guys
[19:33] <pr0ton> and a fresh install of 10.04 on Hard Disk B
[19:33] <m4tic> maximus_ don't close the konsole
[19:33] <tallulah> quick question
[19:33] <kjele> !enter pr0ton
[19:33] <GeekSquid> madjoe: something about backwards compatibiltiy always frightened me
[19:33] <maximus_> m4tic: trying that now
[19:33] <ForgeAus> argh this notebook is dropping keys...
[19:33] <kjele> !enter | pr0ton
[19:33] <pr0ton> i want to import stuff like torrents, bookmarks etc from older one
[19:33] <olivr> Loshki i removed the old folder in /usr/lib and installed it with --prefix=/usr from source works now
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Maximus_: log a bug as well
[19:33] <pr0ton> any idea?
[19:33] <madjoe> GeekSquid: I know :)
[19:33] <tallulah> is there a chance to upgrade ubuntu from 9.10 to 10.4 only via command line?
[19:34] <maximus_> Loshki: where do i find that
[19:34] <Loshki> olivr: ok...
[19:34] <Susanne> Hey People! How do you disable apparmor? "modprobe -r apparmor"?
[19:34] <maco> tallulah: sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:34] <abid> hi everyone
[19:34] <Slart> !upgrade | tallulah
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Pr0ton: that all stored in the hidden folders in $HOME
[19:34] <neurochrome> can anyone advise me on a sane method of dual booting, whereby you share the home folder between different OSes, but have seperate settings for each distro
[19:34] <pr0ton> what about torrents?
[19:34] <gps23> ActionParsnip: all i am saying that i now have to forcefully use apt-get from command line so that only one program can keep of everything being installed on my system, as i clearly can't change update-manager, even though i personally like aptitude and i am used to it
[19:34] <GeekSquid> neurochrome: put the home folder on it's own partition
[19:34] <maco> pr0ton: also in hidden folders. if you use the same torrent client it'll find them. if not, you need to dig them up and reimport them in the new client
[19:35] <tallulah> maco: awesome thanks!!!
[19:35] <neurochrome> GeekSquid, erm... what?  Please re-read my post ;)
[19:35] <GeekSquid> neurochrome: actually the settings in home would screw that up
[19:35] <pr0ton> maco: ok, i'll try with KTorrent
[19:35] <pr0ton> what about importing bookmarks from Chrome?
[19:35] <SwedeMike> neurochrome: that's not really possible, you probably need to have separate /home but have the shared data on a different partition and then symlink to it from both OSes
[19:35]  * madjoe thinks #ubuntu is the best. :)
[19:35] <neurochrome> GeekSquid, yeah.. I already have a seperate partition
[19:35] <huezito> hi
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Neurochrome: install the first OS but leave unpartitioned space (don't use 100% space for the first install) then when you install the 2nd OS point the installer to the free space. Simple
[19:35] <maco> neurochrome: put your data in a separate folder in /home
[19:35] <Loshki> maximus_: it's somewhere in the mess of output that k3b produces. It will be something like /dev/cdrom or /dev/scd0 or /dev/sr0. Run 'ls -l /dev/scd0' and tell us the result...
[19:35] <maco> neurochrome: then symlink to it from /home/nc1/data  and from /home/nc2/data
[19:35] <neurochrome> Yeah - why they don't seperate the settings is beyond me
[19:36] <merphy> I used synaptic selected "tomcat6-admin" etc I can connect to the default page successfully but cant not connect to the manager, I also have set the user and role in tomcat-users.xmla file.
[19:36] <neurochrome> ActionParsnip, I don;t think yo understand
[19:36] <maco> neurochrome: set /home/nc1 as your home dir for user on one system and /home/nc2 on the ohter
[19:36] <GeekSquid> neurochrome: use different usernames between OS's then settings would be seperate
[19:36] <xorwhy> Is the performance difference between 32bit and 64bit really that noticeable?
[19:36] <neurochrome> maco, yes this isn't ideal
[19:36] <guntbert> gps23: (I only came in now) what is your issue with aptitude?
[19:36] <Slart> neurochrome: I've stopped putting any kind of documents in the local folders in home.. instead I have network mapped directory that ends up as ~/SlartsDocuments   where I put all my things.. then each distro gets it's own settings but I can share my documents between different computers/installs
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> Gps23: just let update -manager do its thing. Its a nice frontend to hide the technicalities below. Whichever is used will achieve the same goal
[19:36] <maximus_> Loshki:
[19:36] <maximus_> scsidev: '/dev/sr0'
[19:36] <maximus_> devname: '/dev/sr0'
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> Pr0ton: again it in $HOME
[19:37] <pr0ton> ActionPArsnip
[19:37] <Loshki> xorwhy: I've never thought so, but I guess it depends on what kind of work you're doing. Something cpu intensive with lots of memory access I suppose would make the biggest difference...
[19:37] <neurochrome> GeekSquid, maco, from what I gather I use different user names and symlink, but then I have to arse about with group permissions
[19:37] <thedude42> xorwhy: performance really isn't the difference between 32 and 64 bit machines
[19:37] <joebodo> xorwhy, some things are quite faster in 64bit - according to some benchmarks i have seen
[19:37] <pr0ton> thanks.
[19:37] <gps23> guntbert: i am used to aptitude but update-manager uses apt-get so do i have to switch to apt-get against my wish to install from command line?
[19:37] <Loshki> maximus_: open a terminal and type 'ls -l /dev/sr0'
[19:37] <razass> in the terminal is there a way to get a list of the root folders? The only way I seam to be able to get to them is to by cd /var  etc etc etc
[19:37] <maco> neurochrome: not if the usernames have the same UID on both systems
[19:37] <maco> neurochrome: file permissions are stored by UID not by spelled-out name
[19:37] <xorwhy> thedude42, Then what is?
[19:38] <neurochrome> maco, yeah 1000 if I'm correct?
[19:38] <Loshki> razass: not sure what you mean by 'root' folders. What problem are you trying to solve?
[19:38] <gps23> ActionParsnip: update-manager will only install updates, many time i need to install some package so that i do from command line
[19:38] <maco> neurochrome: in ubuntu/debian yes. in red hat/fedora, 500
[19:38] <maco> neurochrome: of course you can set these as you wish in /etc/passwd
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> Gps23: absolutely
[19:38] <jrib> gps23: how are you determining update-manager uses apt-get?
[19:38] <m4tic> razass cd / then ls
[19:38] <neurochrome> Slart, I think creating a seperate data partition is the neatest way so far, b ut still a daft way of doing things
[19:38] <jack_singh> hi folks can anyone help me with apt-cacher
[19:38] <GeekSquid> razass: cd /  will give you  the root then ls there
[19:38] <razass> Loshki: well I can never remember what the root folders are called so when I am looking for a file I have to hit the web to get the list
[19:38] <maco> neurochrome: for that matter, the user name could be the same on both too. nothing says the name of the dir under /home must match your username
[19:38] <gps23> jrib from system logs
[19:38] <xorwhy> joebodo, since installing the 64bit lucid, it seems much faster. But I can't fix these problems, and they're intolerable. *cries* oh well. 32bit it is
[19:38] <jrib> gps23: it just used the python-apt library last time I took a look
[19:38] <razass> oh there we go
[19:39] <guntbert> gps23: I haven't heard that before - but with updates only it will be no issue - of course you can keep to CLI with sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade (that is my way ...)
[19:39] <razass> thanks guys.....so simple :D
[19:39] <jack_singh> anyone
[19:39] <razass> I kept getting the Documents  Music etc
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> Neurochrome: just chown the home folder once you restore the data
[19:39] <thedude42> xorwhy: that's a loaded question, but one of the big differences is the size of the general purpose registers and the fact that you can store 64 bit values and work directly on them in the hardware
[19:39] <neurochrome> maco, it would be oh-so-simpler to be able to mount a settings partition as well as a home partition, that way you could share the home and have seperate setting partition... this bugs me
[19:39] <GeekSquid> razass: that is your home i.e. /home/razass ... which is where you start when opening a new terminal session
[19:39] <p0a> Hello how to change [ with ( in all applications?
[19:40] <gps23> jrib: nothing comes under aptitude entry in gnome-system-log when i do an update from update-manager, but it comes in history.log in apt folder
[19:40] <jrib> p0a: "in all applications"?  What do you mean?
[19:40] <neurochrome> ActionParsnip, cheers anyway but that still is not the method I'm looking for.... ;)
[19:40] <tatofoo> I've installed bazaar but it doesn't recognize the lp: abbreviation, did I forget to install something?
[19:40] <thedude42> xorwhy: so in applications where that type of things is expensive on 32 bit architectures, you don't pay such a high cost in terms of executions per instruction/code bit
[19:40] <p0a> jrib, I want [ to be ( in all X apps
[19:40] <maco> neurochrome: well afaik thats not possible so.... deal with it
[19:40] <jrib> gps23: I suggest you actually read the source to make sure you that's how it works
[19:40] <jrib> p0a: why?
[19:40] <p0a> Why do you ask?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Jrib: was thinking that
[19:41] <maco> gps23: update-manager calls neither apt-get nor aptitude directly, by the way
[19:41] <thedude42> xorwhy: you also get over some limitations on the ammount of data you can directly reference in current address space
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> P0a: its a very obtuse request
[19:41] <jrib> p0a: because I don't know how to do what you ask, so if you tell me why, maybe I know how to do what you want in another way
[19:41] <maco> gps23: it uses libapt
[19:41] <gps23> guntbert: can i do automatic updates from update-manager but still use aptitude to install occasion new packages from command line?
[19:41] <Loshki> gps23: I've mixed aptitude and apt-get calls, depending on whose instructions I'm following. Doesn't seem to matter....
[19:41] <maximus__> Loshki: Will do it in a mo
[19:41] <maco> gps23: of course
[19:41] <p0a> jrib, It can be done with X settings. I have done it once
[19:41] <jrib> p0a: ok
[19:42] <neurochrome> maco, yeah I know that, there are a few newer distros that have reworked the current filesystem, but it would be lovely to see this minor improvement/change to the linux environment
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> P0a: but to what end or is it purely aesthetic?
[19:42] <thedeeno> Where can I set my PATH so that both my shell and X recognize it?
[19:42] <Loshki> p0a: so you're saying that each time you type an '[' you want it to come out as '(' for all X apps?
[19:42] <maximus__> Loshki: terminal output      brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2010-05-17 20:38 /dev/sr0
[19:42] <gps23> maco: sorry for not being clear, i mean of course i can do that but its is healthy in the long run if i am concerned about dependencies etc
[19:42] <thedeeno> .bashrc doesn't seem to do the trick
[19:42] <maco> neurochrome: a .profile that does those mount commands could work
[19:43] <p0a> Loshki, yes
[19:43] <jrib> thedeeno: .profile
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> Thedeeno: /etc/environment I think
[19:43] <kjele> thedeeno: try ~/.profile
[19:43] <maco> gps23: apt-get is capable of tracking whether a package was installed by manual or automatic means these days
[19:43] <Loshki> maximus__: those permissions look correct. What username are you logged in as?
[19:43] <maco> gps23: itll alert you to run "apt-get autoremove" in the same way that aptitude would say "also removing..."
[19:43] <maximus__> m4tic: running as root has the same error
[19:43] <guntbert> gps23: thats what I've been doing for a long time now (if I forgot to aptitude update) -- no issues so far -- if you mix apt-get and aptitude you might loose track of installed dependencies only - so nothing severe either
[19:44] <thedeeno> jrib, ActionParsnip, kjele: thanks. I'll try them out.
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Maximus__: log in as a different user. Same issue?
[19:44] <joebodo> thedeeno, did you log out after changing bashrc ?
[19:44] <gps23> maco: if you mean that apt-get will also remove unused dependies like aptitude do (as i read from manuals etc) then its good :)
[19:44] <maco> neurochrome: like, have it mount a settings partition onto your /home/foo then have it mount various other dirs on top of it to get your /home/foo/Documents and such
[19:44] <kjele> gps23: apt-get autoremove will do
[19:45] <thedeeno> joebodo: yeah. This has to do with vim. It's not reading .bashrc and doesn't care about running source ~/.bashrc. Thus my path is correctly set when running from the terminal but not x
[19:45] <maco> gps23: it wont do it automatically. itll tell you that they exist and that you should run "apt-get autoremove" if you want them gone (some people dislike's aptitude's automatic removal)
[19:45] <maximus__> Loshki: As Maximus...but even if i run run it as root, I just get other errors    "cdrecord returned an unknown error (code 254). Sometimes using TAO writing mode solves this issue"
[19:45] <p0a> Loshki, any ideas?
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Gps23: you can also use --purge option to remove old configs too
[19:45] <iguanna> hi all
[19:45] <thedude42> gps23: it prompts you if you want them removed be default, afaik
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Maximus__: try the mode then
[19:46] <Loshki> guntbert: are you saying apt-get or aptitude keep dependencies somewhere on the system? If so, I'd like to know where. I thought dependencies are just part of the package info, and are recalculated for each app...?
[19:46] <maximus__> ActionParsnip: will do now
[19:46] <thedude42> gps23: s/be/by/
[19:46] <iguanna> I am trying to convert from avi to divx by: transcode -i file.avi -o file.divx -y divx but it doesn't work
[19:46] <ToothPick> Slart: hey, one of the universe, multiverse repositories made tightvnc to work, thanks :)
[19:46] <gps23> means i can mix both aptitude and apt-get without worries. wow
[19:46] <Slart> ToothPick: you're welcome
[19:46] <iguanna> am I doing it well?
[19:46] <Administrator_> hi all, I got sick of windows, so I decided to give Ubuntu a try. I need some help with USB terror. Can I ask for it here?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Gps23: there's also deborphan which removes orphaned packages but apparently it gets a bit greedy and removes ok stuff. Personally never had an issue with it
[19:47] <maximus__> ActionParsnip: It cant possibly be this intricate just to write a DVD...Ubuntu is awesome, but it has its drawbacks
[19:47] <thedude42> gps23: yeah, they are both just tools for managing your local apt package base, plus other features
[19:47] <Loshki> p0a: was it xmodmap, by any chance? Also, gnome has keyboard layout option menus I seem to recall?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Gps23: sure, you can use them as you like as long as the packages are not locked
[19:47] <dancek> Loshki, /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates
[19:48] <p0a> Loshki, thanks, that's what I was looking for
[19:48] <guntbert> Loshki: my statement was: aptitude keeps track of those apps it installs automatically to fulfill dependencies of other packages - if you remove those other packages (and nothing else depends on them) aptitude removes them again, which is something apt-get doesn't do
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> Maximus__: try a different burning app. Ubuntu defaults with brasero which I have never had any luck with and I use gnomebaker instead
[19:48] <iguanna> How can I indicate to apt-get install to install the suggested packages as well?
[19:48] <dancek> Loshki, not dependencies per se but the status of each package and whether it was asked b user etc
[19:48] <tweepcat> Hi, I am trying to boot, and hopefully install if I like it, ubuntu from a USB stick using unetbootin on a windows computer. When I reboot and go to the boot menu, F12 because I am on a dell, I select the usb drive and it says "drive without operating system". Please could I have any help or suggestions?
[19:48] <gps23> wow, i got much help
[19:48] <gps23> thanks
[19:48] <neurochrome> maco, yeah... There are two ways that are appealing at the moment.. Shared home with different usernames and symlinks- or - Shared Data partition with symlinks.... Only thing is the partition where all my data is is on a second internal drive, and the OSes are installed on the 1st drive.  Is there a way to automount the second drive, so the symlinks work, without having the mounted drive show up on the desktop - whilst still allowing other mou
[19:48] <neurochrome> nted drives to show on the desktop?
[19:49] <xerox1> if i would like to boot from an usb stick with an ubuntu iso: is usb-zip the right setting in bios?
[19:49] <raymondjtoth> just installed ubuntu 10.04 and everthing is slow on my dell e1505 notbook (laptop) what i do thanks
[19:49] <maximus__> ActionParsnip: Brasero and K3b )= will give gnomebaker a try
[19:49] <raymondjtoth> i have intel graphic card also
[19:49] <Loshki> dancek: agreed, package status is different to dependency info. apt seems to rely on dpkg for that (/var/lib/dpkg/status)...
[19:49] <neurochrome> xeros, probably not
[19:49] <maco> neurochrome: symlinks work fine across hard drives
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Guntbert: the user may still want the packages installed, the user may be reinstalling the app at a later date and will require the packages to be redownloaded again when they could be just left in place
[19:49] <raymondjtoth> and a intel centrino duo
[19:49] <raymondjtoth> any one help me thanks
[19:50] <raymondjtoth> ?
[19:50] <maximus__> ActionParsnip: TAO just had a different problem...but all fail at the same point...immediately after the first track (audio cd)
[19:50] <xerox1> neurochrome, do you mean me?
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> Gps23: as you use the OS you will probably help others too, makes the world go around
[19:50] <raymondjtoth> any one :(
[19:50] <neurochrome> maco, yeah I know.. .but at present the drive is not set to automount in fstab... I want to add it, BUT without showing a link on the desktop
[19:50] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: don't get me wrong -- I'm not advocating - merely explaining ...
[19:50] <tweepcat> Any help guys?
[19:50] <maco> neurochrome: you can mount it in /etc/fstab. I *think* Nautilus only puts drives on the desktop if theyre external and doing the dynamic-mount-when-plugged
[19:50] <gps23> ActionParsnip: i always try to do my best when it comes to persuade others to use ubuntu
[19:50] <neurochrome> xerox1, YES
[19:50] <azm> raymondjtoth, did you try google your laptop model and ubuntu ?
[19:50] <raymondjtoth> az yes
[19:51]  * neurochrome ooops caps lock key
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> Maximus__: is the drive ok? Maybe you could use hdparm to enable dma if its not already
[19:51] <dancek> Loshki, yes... i didn't really read the conversation, but in case it wasnt clear, aptitude keeps track of which packages the user has asked for, and all others get removed if they aren't needed by some other package anymore
[19:51] <raymondjtoth> azm yes but slow
[19:51] <xerox1> neurochrome, what setting should i look for?
[19:51] <raymondjtoth> take for ever to open just firefox
[19:51] <neurochrome> maco, ahhh sweet
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> Gps23: ubuntu isn't always the answer ;)
[19:51] <Loshki> guntbert: I thought apt-get also advised you when something got left with no dependencies...?
[19:51] <tweepcat> Hi, I am trying to boot, and hopefully install if I like it, ubuntu from a USB stick using unetbootin on a windows computer. When I reboot and go to the boot menu, F12 because I am on a dell, I select the usb drive and it says "drive without operating system". Please could I have any help or suggestions?
[19:51] <m4tic> maximus_ whats the latest
[19:51] <azm> raymondjtoth, tell me exact name of the laptop(model)
[19:51] <raymondjtoth> azm dell e1505
[19:51] <neurochrome> xerox1, usb-fdd if it's there, usb-hdd possibly too
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> Tweepcat: did you MD5 test the ISO you used?
[19:51] <gps23> ActionParsnip: for ones who will come out of windows 'well' for first time, it _is_ the answer
[19:52] <xerox1> neurochrome, thx usb-fdd is there
[19:52] <neurochrome> xerox1, at the end of the day, it'll vary depending on manufacturer
[19:52] <neurochrome> xerox1, np
[19:52] <raymondjtoth> azm dell e1505
[19:52] <guntbert> Loshki: I don't know about that - my choice has been aptitude :-)
[19:52] <DjBiG> hello
[19:52] <tweepcat> MD5 test?
[19:52] <cixa> hello, my harddrive has crashed and i get a login to initramfs with the following messages: couldnt find /dev/root: folder does not exist. now, i am downloading the live cd. is this (desktop cd) the same as a live cd: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/
[19:52] <cixa> _
[19:52] <guntbert> !md5 | tweepcat
[19:52] <Energetic> I have a laptop with USB/SATA1/SATA2. I have a woirkstation with Windows. How can I install Ubuntu?
[19:52] <DjBiG> French please ?
[19:52] <azm> raymondjtoth, yea, second.
[19:52] <maco> neurochrome: to automount, add "auto" to the drive's options in fstab
[19:52] <Pici> !fr | DjBiG
[19:52] <neurochrome> xerox1, oh and cheaper flash drives can sometimes become unbootable if not dismounted correctly
[19:52] <DjBiG> thx
[19:53] <tweepcat> thanks, i will read that now
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Gps23: maybe so but an OS is a tool for a job. Sometimes windows is more appropriate
[19:53] <raymondjtoth> azm im a autstic person so sorry if inpation and did get ride of the intel 7 driver since i have a intel 9 graphic card
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | tweepcat
[19:53] <xerox1> neurochrome, okay
[19:53] <gps23> ActionParsnip: alright dude, i accept :)
[19:53] <neurochrome> maco, cheers, I think mounting the drive and symlinking to it from each OS is the best way then
[19:53] <maximus__> ActionParsnip: how can i quickly check if dma is enabled? THe drive works perfectly under windows with Nero....but win is not debian...so that doesnt solve my prob. Trying to burn with gbaker now
[19:53] <dancek> tweepcat, some bioses don't boot some usb drives... if you've got another pendrive you could try that, or if you can get your hands on a pendrive that certainly works, you could see if it works on your machine
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> Tweepcat: without md5 test you have no way of knowing the iso you downloaded is good
[19:54] <dancek> ActionParsnip, i think unetbootin checks md5 automatically
[19:54] <tweepcat> i downloaded it from the ubuntu site
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> Maximus__: sudo hdparm -tT /dev/cdrom
[19:54] <raymondjtoth> thanks for helping azm
[19:54] <tweepcat> what would be wrong with it?
[19:55] <azm> raymondjtoth, if you are able to be aware of it, work to change it to be patient otherwise you may experience rejection.
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> Dancek: it just moves the data. To md5 you need the hash which I'm guessing was never looked at
[19:55] <yigal> has anyone used the poulsbo_lucid.sh script for gma 500 here?
[19:55] <neurochrome> tweepcat, just md5sum the file
[19:55] <azm> raymondjtoth, np, just checking specs of laptop
[19:55] <raymondjtoth> azm ok i will work
[19:55] <guntbert> tweepcat: errors happen during transfer
[19:55] <neurochrome> tweepcat, cross reference it with the current md5 for the file on the ubuntu site
[19:55] <raymondjtoth> azm o ok thanks for understand me
[19:56] <azm> raymondjtoth, how exactly slow it is? Did you try to turn off compiz(effects)?
[19:56] <Energetic> Does a windows tool exist which is able to create a bootable install HDD for Ubuntu?
[19:56] <maximus__> ActionParsnip: burning failed with gbaker too.
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> Tweepcat: bad isos make bad installs
[19:56] <yigal> has anyone used the poulsbo_lucid.sh script for gma 500 here?  I repository at dropbox that is used in that script no longer exists.  I'm wondering if there is a work around?  Is the gma500 PPA working now?
[19:56] <Energetic> cant seem to find a working one
[19:56] <tweepcat> okay, but why would it be a bad is?
[19:56] <raymondjtoth> azm slow to were i crawel and how i do this azm
[19:56] <tweepcat> *iso?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> Energetic: sure look on pendrivelinux.com
[19:56] <dancek> ActionParsnip, oh, ok. I'd call that a bug.
[19:56] <raymondjtoth> turn off compiz effects
[19:56] <raymondjtoth> ?
[19:57] <astra-x> in ubuntu 10.04, is it possible to have more than one softraid type, and have lvm ontop of raid?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Maximus__: i'd suspect the drive, or settings for the drive. Does burning slower help?
[19:57] <Loshki> Energetic: I thought unetbootin can do that. See the 'frugal install' option: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[19:57] <neurochrome> tweepcat, sometimes a file can be corrupt for whatever reason, your best to double-check
[19:57] <raymondjtoth> azm how i turn that off never found it
[19:57] <tweepcat> i cant acess the usb stick anyway, it asks me to format
[19:57] <thedude42> astra-x: yes
[19:57] <neurochrome> tweepcat, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[19:57] <azm> raymondjtoth, man read a wiki
[19:57] <neurochrome> tweepcat, here is a guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Dancek: if it did it would need to download or know the md5sum of every iso you can imagine which is fairly fantastic
[19:57] <SwedeMike> astra-x: lvm on top of raid is definitely working, yes.
[19:57] <astra-x> thedude42: did you do it with debian-installer or by hand?
[19:58] <raymondjtoth> azm were that
[19:58] <azm> *did that
[19:58] <raymondjtoth> azm how i turn off what sed
[19:58] <astra-x> cause arch isn't able to do that
[19:58] <raymondjtoth> i coulnt finde it were that put it
[19:58] <astra-x> so i was hoping ubuntu could
[19:58] <maximus__> the command you gave me to check dma isnt working
[19:58] <raymondjtoth> !wiki
[19:58] <SwedeMike> astra-x: the alternate install image will happily do raid, lvm and crypt if you want to
[19:58] <compaq> yes yes, ubuntu rocks
[19:58] <maximus__> ActionParsnip: the command you gave me to check dma isnt working
[19:58] <azm> raymondjtoth, system-preferences-appearance-effects
[19:58] <thedude42> astra-x: by hand i guess you would say.... neither of the arrays have the OS install on them
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Maximus__: ok then trawl the web for guides on hdparm
[19:59] <cixa> can anyone help me with my question
[19:59] <Loshki> maximus__: that's interesting. Can you pastebin the output? I'd like to see it...
[19:59] <dancek> ActionParsnip, doesn't it allow you to choose the distro you want from a menu? It knows the URIs for the images, it could know the URIs for the md5sums, too.
[19:59] <onetinsoldier> maximus__: it would be this --> hdparm -I /dev/<device>
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> Maximus__: there are also guides to enable dma for optical drives
[19:59] <a3ist> !ask | cixa
[19:59] <tweepcat> listen, i have never used an operating system other than windows and I don't have a clue about what the articles are about.  i downloaded the .iso from the ubuntu website, so why would anything be wrong with it? i am pretty confused.
[19:59] <Energetic> those two tools dont recognize my usb disk
[19:59] <azm> raymondjtoth, would be better if you write exact problem with description on forum
[19:59] <astra-x> right, well i am going to keep trying debian-installer. it doesn't like to forget raid arrays though
[19:59] <neurochrome> !man
[19:59] <Energetic> just like another tool i tried
[19:59] <dancek> ActionParsnip, I'm not saying it should md5 check any iso *you* give it
[19:59] <raymondjtoth> azm i see that off any thing eles
[19:59] <tweepcat> i dont know how on earththe UbuntuHashes works
[20:00] <neurochrome> tweepcat, right...
[20:00] <a3ist> tweepcat, its pretty easy to follow; check out this link:
[20:00] <cixa> 20:52 cixa hello, my harddrive has crashed and i get a login to initramfs with the following messages: couldnt find /dev/root: folder does not exist. now, i am downloading the live cd. is this (desktop cd) the same as a live cd: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/
[20:00] <a3ist> !hashes | tweepcat
[20:00] <yigal> so no one here except me uses gma 500 on Lucid, interesting?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Dancek: submit it on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com or just agree with my idea on there which I posted of a similar ilk. I'm tired of users not md5 testing then wondering why the install is bad. Then noticing their iso is bad
[20:00] <g0tcha> is there a way to start ubuntu install from within centos desktop and without a reboot?
[20:00] <neurochrome> tweepcat, each iso has a hash -  ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso -- is -- d044a2a0c8103fc3e5b7e18b0f7de1c8
[20:00] <azm> raymondjtoth, write this in terminal glxinfo | grep direct
[20:00] <thedude42> astra-x: try just building the array you want to mount / on, then finishing building the other array after you've installed
[20:00] <olivr> g0tcha: no
[20:01] <olivr> with vmware or other it is...
[20:01] <tweepcat> okay
[20:01] <azm> raymondjtoth, and post output
[20:01] <neurochrome> tweepcat, if you locate the iso you downloaded - let's say the name is ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.is
[20:01] <astra-x> thedude42: i am trying to
[20:01] <compaq> g0tcha, maybe, try it, but there isn't any reason like an advantage if it were able
[20:01] <maximus__> For /dev/sr0: HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Bad address
[20:01] <lengend> hello, i am having trouble installing Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on my laptop. It hangs at 5% where it says "Creating ext4 file system for / in parition #1 of SCSl1 (0,0,09 (sda)... I bought a new hard drive just now cause my old one is messed up with bad sectors...what seems to be  the problem? I'm using the same disk as before where it got to like 75% on my old hard drive...
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha: you could dd the iso to the partition but its not really "installed"
[20:01] <raymondjtoth> azm were i put it so i dont get booted
[20:01] <astra-x> thedude42: i have a setup, two partition on each drive, two drives. /dev/md0 is a raid0 of partition 2 of both hdds used for lvm, and md1 is a raid1 for /boot
[20:01] <neurochrome> tweepcat, in terminal do "md5sum ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso" and it should spurt out "d044a2a0c8103fc3e5b7e18b0f7de1c8"
[20:01] <maximus__> For /dev/sr0: read() hit EOF - device too small Timing buffered disk reads:  read() hit EOF - device too small
[20:01] <azm> raymondjtoth, you are in windows now?
[20:02] <astra-x> yet debian-installer won't let me do this
[20:02] <raymondjtoth> azm no ubuntu 10.4
[20:02] <jiffe> I have applied quotas to one of my filesystems, I changed the default grace period to 0 but existing users over quota still show a grace period of 6 days accoring to repquota, anyone know how I get those to show 0 now?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> Lengend: does the media you use pass md5 test/?
[20:02] <astra-x> and there appears to be no way to forget raid
[20:02] <tweepcat> i am wayy too confused
[20:02] <raymondjtoth> i get this azm he program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[20:02] <raymondjtoth> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[20:02] <neurochrome> tweepcat, note that you have to either be in the folder where the file is or use the actual location as well in the filename
[20:02] <maximus__> For /dev/cdrom: read() hit EOF - device too small Timing buffered disk reads:  read() hit EOF - device too small
[20:02] <lengend> How would I test that ActionParsnip?
[20:02] <Loshki> g0tcha: doubt it, but you can probably install to a hard drive without a CD using unetbootin's 'frugal install' but at some point you need to reboot.,,
[20:02] <raymondjtoth> should i add it
[20:02] <lengend> I'm burning a fresh copy of 10.04 LTS, at the moment
[20:02] <tweepcat> no offence, but i am a 14 year old who wants to install ubuntu, and i dont have a clue what you are on about
[20:02] <tweepcat> why would the file be bad if i downloaded it from the ubuntu site, thats what i dont get
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | lengend
[20:02] <azm> raymondjtoth, post output of lspci
[20:03] <neurochrome> tweepcat, eg; "md5sum ~/Desktop/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso"
[20:03] <Loshki> maximus__: well, I guess it's no surprise that ubuntu doesn't like something about your burner....
[20:03] <lengend> Will give that a try ActionParsnip, thank you.
[20:03] <azm> raymondjtoth, so you have just ubuntu 10.4 and nothing else and its slow ?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> dancek: see what I mean
[20:03] <tweepcat> thanks for the help, though, but I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE ON ABOUT
[20:03] <raymondjtoth> ok azm were i post it other wise get booted
[20:03] <tweepcat> i do not understand
[20:03] <raymondjtoth> only ubuntu 10.04
[20:03] <thedude42> astra-x: yeah you'll need to either dd the first sector or use the mdadm command to blow away it's supernode
[20:03] <raymondjtoth> i got it were i post to if do it here i get booted
[20:03] <tweepcat> why would the file be bad if i downloaded it from the ubuntu site, thats what i dont get
[20:03] <neurochrome> tweepcat, just read the manual - "man md5sum" in a terminal
[20:03] <Tazer> Hello I'd like to know if Mplayer can use Electricsheep as an integrated visualizer with one of it's frontends, and if it has a sort of desktop mode you can turn off and on?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Tweepcat: you have just downloaded a massive chunk of data over the internet
[20:04] <thedude42> astra-x: you may consider using fakeraid for your raid1 if your motherboard has it
[20:04] <dancek> ActionParsnip, hmm ok... i think i'll file a bug report for unetbootin. As for your suggestion, I'd rather that torrents were suggested as the primary download and the http downloads came with a big warning about corruption and MD5s.
[20:04] <azm> raymondjtoth, I dont understand, what you mean with "get booted" ?
[20:04] <LjL> tweepcat, networks sometimes mess up data.
[20:04] <raymondjtoth> azm if post what you need i get booted from chat
[20:04] <raymondjtoth> or kicked
[20:04] <tweepcat> oh, okay
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Tweepcat: the data is very sensitive to error and if the data gets damaged in transit the errors and problems can arrise
[20:04] <IdleOne> !paste | raymondjtoth
[20:04] <azm> raymondjtoth, you mean kicked ?
[20:04] <kokdela> how do I install the 32 bit gcc toolchain on a 64 bit system? (I'm trying to build an i386 kernel on amd64)
[20:05] <Loshki> tweepcat: sometimes downloads contain errors. It's not as common as it used to be, but it does happen. Also, sometimes when burning a file to a dvd, that introduces errors too. md5sum is a way of checking to make sure the copy you have is identical to the original....
[20:05] <neurochrome> tweepcat, because sometimes file integrity can be compromised.. if it were an mp3 it wouldn't really be an issue, but this is an OS we're talking about.. check it to be sure your installing a 100% ok OS
[20:05] <dancek> ActionParsnip, as for the basic principle of always checking md5 or sha1 etc before using an image, I *totally* agree.
[20:05] <etate> hey guys, having major issues installing 10.04 LTS on my girlfriends laptop - the livecd gets stuck whenever i press anything
[20:05] <ForgeAus> can a loop device been partitioned?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Tweepcat: so we use md5 testing to verify the data is good. If you use a bad image, it will give issues. You have not checked your data so you don't know if that is to blame
[20:05] <etate> i've checked bug reports etc but nothing seems to work :/
[20:05] <raymondjtoth> amz http://paste.ubuntu.com/435119/
[20:05] <neurochrome> tweepcat, if this is too hard to grasp, I wish you the best of luck with linux ;)
[20:05] <azm> raymondjtoth, ah, well send me message with that output
[20:05] <yigal> this is annoying
[20:05] <raymondjtoth> azmhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/435119/
[20:06] <ForgeAus> I mean a wubi hardfile  (/dev/loop0) partition it and put another OS on it?....
[20:06] <etate> if anyone could help i would be eternally grateful
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Tweepcat: if the iso is good we can explore other avenues but this basic check can save lots of effort
[20:06] <sealive> hi did did a major foult
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> !ask | etate
[20:06] <neurochrome> yigal, what?
[20:06] <sealive> i deinstallt python2.5 and python 2.5 minimal
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Tweepcat: do you get what I mean?
[20:06] <neurochrome> sealive, english.. Do you speak it?
[20:07] <sealive> a little
[20:07] <raymondjtoth> azm what now
[20:07] <neurochrome> sealive, what is the issue?
[20:07] <kokdela> how do I install the 32 bit gcc toolchain on a 64 bit system? (I'm trying to build an i386 kernel on amd64)
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Tweepcat: the torrent protocol adds extra checks to data integrity but the final file should still be checked. Also bcd burners use moving parts so can be subjec to jitter and a cd tester is included if you burn to cd
[20:07] <neurochrome> you removed python?
[20:08] <tweepcat> MD5 checks are the same
[20:08] <kjele> kokdela: libc6 something
[20:08] <etate> okay, the problem is this: booting from the livecd gets stuck at a weird box and then a human next to it, sometimes when I press a key (50% chance), it goes to the next screen which contains the options. Having tried adding i915.modeset=0 and 1, xforcevesa, nomodeset options, it still freezes whenever i choose any of the options (even memory test).
[20:08] <tweepcat> i am going to format the usb drive, use the unetbootin and then try to boot it again
[20:08] <raymondjtoth> azm you here\
[20:08] <raymondjtoth> \
[20:08] <raymondjtoth> ?
[20:08] <sebsebseb> tweepcat: If you downloaded from the torrent your  ISO is probably fine, but according to ActionParsnip you should  still check.  There  are also two other checks similar to md5sum that can be done to check an ISO.
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> Tweepcat: good and now you understand why its important
[20:08] <tweepcat> thanks for the help everyone who has helped me
[20:08] <sealive> neurochrome: yes
[20:08] <Energetic> this is a total disappointment
[20:09] <tweepcat> i have learned something, and i appreciate it so much
[20:09] <sealive> neuroi got the packages now manuell
[20:09] <ubuntu__> Hello people I need help: I am talking from the Live CD because I am going to fresh install ubuntu, I installed gparted and deleted my sda1 partition, and now it became free space, the thing is than when i go to the install wizard and then choose the option "use the most free space avaliable" it tosses an error: "they are too much primary partitions, cannot continue". Help??
[20:09] <sebsebseb> tweepcat: once you have Ubuntu installed ok :) and here's a good manual for you to check out
[20:09] <kjele> kokdela: libc6-i386
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Sebsebseb: its free ;)
[20:09] <neurochrome> tweepcat, no worries
[20:09] <sebsebseb> tweepcat: Free PDF manual
[20:09] <Energetic> 3 types of sub sticks tried, €5 to €180, none get 3 other pcs to boot using 3 tools
[20:09] <kjele> kokdela: and libc6-dev-i386
[20:09] <sebsebseb> !manual | tweepcat
[20:09] <neurochrome> sealive, sorry I don't understand
[20:09] <kokdela> kjele: ooh, so after I install that then i'll be able to use the m32 option on gcc?
[20:09] <hello-man> i have no open smtp server to configure email. Can i use any site (like yahoo or google) for smtp server?
[20:10] <astra-x> wow thanks, this is actually working
[20:10] <kjele> kokdela: yup
[20:10] <tweepcat> ubottu, bookmarked
[20:10] <m4tic> ubuntu_ use custom partitionong
[20:10] <kokdela> kjele: cool, thanks
[20:10] <neurochrome> sealive, you got the packages and the manual??!
[20:10] <kjele> kokdela: but you need the build-essential too
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> Tweepcat: ok i'd look into bootoptions to get started. You can also try disabling unnecessary hardware in bios for the duration of the install
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | tweepcat
[20:10] <sebsebseb> tweepcat: ubottu is not a person, it's a bot, a computer program, by the way
[20:10] <raymondjtoth> azm left
[20:10] <a3ist> hello-man, do you mean to send mail from your ubuntu computer?  You can setup google or yahoo accounts in empathy and use that to send mail
[20:10] <m4tic> ubuntu__ use custom partitionong
[20:10] <kokdela> kjele: yeah already have that.
[20:11] <thedude42> astra-x, what did you try?
[20:11] <sealive> ls
[20:11] <tweepcat> i am an idiot, i started to talk to the bot, ubuttu thinking he was real XD
[20:11] <ubuntu__> m4tic: what?
[20:11] <sebsebseb> tweepcat: manual can help you install Ubuntu as well, altough it's rather straight forward, once your computer is booted from the CD
[20:11] <astra-x> exact same setup, just the debian installer is a little confusing at first when you are used to use the cli tools
[20:11] <kokdela> kjele: just for future reference, how would it work if I were targetting some other platform like arm?
[20:11] <acicula> kokdela, you need an i386 compiler to build or cant you crosscompile from an amd64 kernel
[20:11] <astra-x> thedude42: thanks :)
[20:11] <poop23> Can i get a portable (user level) AMP install? (Like XAMPP on windows (the linux version isn't portable yet afaik))
[20:11] <hello-man> a3ist, yes it is ubuntu computer
[20:11]  * neurochrome loves that people treat bots like humans
[20:11] <raymondjtoth> were azm
[20:11]  * Energetic thanks all for the tips, but goes sees all energy going into a black hole trying to get ubuntu on his laptop
[20:11] <azm> raymondjtoth, sorry, for disconnect
[20:11] <raymondjtoth> azm its ok
[20:11] <raymondjtoth> azm i got a Intel 945GM Graphics Controller
[20:12] <azm> raymondjtoth, so install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[20:12] <azm> raymondjtoth, ah, wait
[20:12] <thedude42> astra-x, yeah, I first used it in 9.04 to install my desktop using LUKS LVM for encryption... it took a while to get the hang of the interface
[20:12] <kjele> kokdela: I never tried that so can't answer that
[20:12] <GeekSquid> poop23: portable? uh, unlikely, however you can move databases between mysql servers and webroots between machines
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Energetic: there are other linux distros
[20:12] <Snarkster> hi i need some helping selecting several thousand files from several hundred folders. what is the best way to do this?
[20:12] <raymondjtoth> azm o ok
[20:12] <azm> raymondjtoth, not yet!
[20:12] <azm> raymondjtoth,  sec
[20:12] <jrib> Snarkster: use your shell?
[20:12] <m4tic> ubuntu__ you have to make an extended partition
[20:12] <ubuntu__> m4tic: how
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Snarkster: could use a find -exec pair based command ;)
[20:13] <raymondjtoth> azm ok that what dell support page tell me i have
[20:13] <neurochrome> m4tic, gparted is the tool you want
[20:13] <m4tic> how many partitions do you have, open gparted now
[20:13] <Loshki> Snarkster: what are the selection criteria?
[20:13] <Energetic> its not about the distro
[20:13] <hello-man> a3ist, i mean , i want to configure my sendmail (own email like something@email.com)but i have no any server to open thie port 25 for smtp
[20:13] <Snarkster> right im in a shell.. having issues with rsync,
[20:13] <poop23> Geeksquid i basically have a usb stick with "usbwebserver" (which is like xampp but about 10x smaller) but that didn't work in wine
[20:13] <raymondjtoth> azm o ok ty for helping me is this my problem?
[20:13] <Energetic> its about not being able to put _any_ distro on my pc
[20:13] <astra-x> thedude42: luks is cryptfs for linux? does it use the same code as lvm?
[20:13] <jrib> Snarkster: you need to tell the channel what you actually want to do
[20:13] <Snarkster> for example selecting 65k txt files for placemment in a another directory.
[20:13] <poop23> Geeksquid So should i install Apache and MySQL and just copy the files to the webroot? how do i change the location of the webroot or make it editable for me without sudoing all the time
[20:13] <fastfwd> I have multiple users on my system, I work in English and the other accounts are all in Dutch. On the accounts other than my own everything is translated to Dutch accept Firefox and Thunderbird (installed from the default repo), which are still English. Anyone have any idea on how to get them to Dutch?
[20:13] <a3ist> hello-man you can use the mail program that comes with Ubuntu.  Click on the mail icon on your panel and click on Mail, or the menu to Applications->Office->Evolution Mail & Calender
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Energetic: what have you tried?
[20:14] <Snarkster> not as good as I thought in a shell. lol
[20:14] <m4tic> ubuntu__ how many partitions do you have, open gparted now
[20:14] <a3ist> hello-man, with that program you can set up an account like gmail or yahoo mail and send emails with it
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> A3ist: never got why it was there. I'd have put it in internet by default
[20:14] <sebsebseb> fastfwd: I think you can google an answer probably.  Also you could try the dutch channel
[20:14] <sebsebseb> !nl | fastfwd
[20:14] <thedude42> astra-x, LUKS is a key manager, implemented with crypt-setup, which uses dev-mapper, the thing LVM is built on
[20:15] <Snarkster> i want to move 65,000+ txt files from several hundred folders to 1 folder on a different drive.
[20:15] <Energetic> unetbootin on flash drive 1+2 (flash3 not recognized), LinuxLive USB Creator 2.5 on flash drive 1+2 (flash drive 3 ntfs error), multiboosisos on flashdrive 1+2 (3 not supported)
[20:15] <GeekSquid> poop23: you could make a bootable webserver on a stick, install Apache, Mysql and php, ... depending on what you are doing Apache may need write access to the webroot, you'd have to explain a little more for me to help
[20:15] <lengend> ActionParsnip, it was a bad cd burn, thank you though!
[20:15] <astra-x> thedude42: ah, so is LUKS usuable with tpm?
[20:15] <coregrl> hi
[20:15] <Energetic> on laptop1, pc1, pc2
[20:15] <joebodo> Snarkster, it would be something like this find -size xxx -exec mv {} /tmp \;
[20:15] <a3ist> ActionParsnip, if you think about it functionally, evolution is geared towards more of the office functions like calendar / contact management to go along with the email
[20:15] <thedude42> astra-x, it uses the dev-mapper interface to use kcryptd for writing/reading from a block device
[20:15] <coregrl> I've problem with my microphone on ubuntu lynx
[20:15] <oCean__> Snarkster: so, you have to find ALL *.txt files in several directories?
[20:15] <fastfwd> I already tried the Dutch channel and there's no solution there, furthermore, neither the documentation nor google have so far provided me with a solution
[20:16] <hello-man> a3ist, but i do not want to set gmail or yahoo. I wanna make like outlook express mail. How can i do that?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> A3ist: I guess
[20:16] <Snarkster> ocean yep
[20:16] <Soyo> So I downloaded a file that has a space in the name... How can do anything with it from the command line? It stops after the first space. Example: Test Document.pdf It will say the folder Test does not exist
[20:16] <coregrl> I can't record anything but it seemd recognized
[20:16] <jrib> Snarkster: 65000 files at random?  or based on something...?
[20:16] <onetinsoldier> Snarkster: you probably need to make a bash shell script
[20:16] <Snarkster> jrib based on extension
[20:16] <SwedeMike> Soyo: put "" around it
[20:16] <rapha> guys i'd rly like to use my USB headset again, but nobody is responding to my bug report - what to do?
[20:16] <fastfwd> Everyone just tells me it "should work", which it unfortuneately doesn't
[20:16] <onetinsoldier> Snarkster: or perl, or whatever
[20:16] <thedude42> astra-x, I wouldn't say it's unusable, just that no one has implemented it that I know of, but I don't see that being an impossible task
[20:16] <jrib> Soyo: 'file with space', or file\ with\ space
[20:16] <poop23> GeekSquid I'm teaching myself PHP&MySQL but my webhost is on the other side of the planet and often i lose connection to them, so it's nice to have something running locally
[20:16] <guntbert> Soyo: or use <tab> completion
[20:16] <a3ist> ActionParsnip, I agree that you can easily argue for it to go in either folder, but I think having an "Internet" folder is, in itself, kinda silly.  Its way too vague in this day and age to group programs that interact online.
[20:16] <ubuntu__> m4tic: http://i41.tinypic.com/20h258p.png
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Snarkster mount the destination then something like: find . -iname "*.txt" -exec cp {} /path/to/dest
[20:16] <jrib> Snarkster: well you can glob with something like **/*.txt or you can use find -name '*.txt', pick your poison
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> A3ist: definately agree there
[20:17] <Soyo> Thanks! Gonna try all three.
[20:17] <duffydack> ActionParsnip,  ;\     :)
[20:17] <astra-x> thedude42: thanks for the info, if you don't specify a keyfile, is there way (like fedora 11/12) to ask for keyphrase on boot?
[20:17] <sebsebseb> fastfwd: I dont' know, ask again in a bit, and someone else may be able to help, or try the forums
[20:17] <maximus__> ActionParsnip: Dont know if this helps, but my drive is a SATA drive..dont know how DMA affects it
[20:17] <sebsebseb> !forums | fastfwd
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Duffydack: gah!
[20:17] <thedude42> poop23, is your ssh session locking up or something like that?
[20:17]  * cori__AWAY is away: AWAY
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Maximus__: then its automagically set to on
[20:17] <oCean__> !afk > cori__AWAY
[20:18] <poop23> thedude42: "The server is not available" in browsers.
[20:18] <mohjak> How to add otf fonts to ubuntu in order to work with open office 3.2?
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> !fonts | mahjak
[20:18] <Loshki> fastfwd: also try #firefox
[20:18] <Soyo> tab completion FTW
[20:18] <a3ist> ActionParsnip, I think a better way would be to organize "browsing" and "communication" functions separately, but that's probably getting off-topic.  I'm a UI/UX nerd though
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Soyo: its a pita here
[20:18] <maximus__> ActionParsnip: mmmmm...so back to square one )= Any other suggestions?
[20:18] <GeekSquid> poop23: why you needed it portable, idk, if you are running on your own computer, ... gksudo nautilus is your friend, when www-data:www-data are chown'd
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Maximus__: latest firmware in burner (risky)
[20:18] <sebsebseb> LSD|Ninja: fastfwd  Offical Firefox channel on irc.mozilla.org
[20:19] <Loshki> maximus__: what model is your burner, btw?
[20:19] <poop23> GeekSquid: I guess my main question is this then: Why aren't there portableapps on linux yet :P
[20:19] <sebsebseb> uh hat was meant to be sent to you Loshki the above
[20:19] <thedude42> astra-x, by default that's what crypt-setup does, sets a passphrase.... you have like 10 key 'slots' for key material
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> A3ist: tbh I launch everything from guake :)
[20:19] <rapha> ActionParsnip: do you have any idea who i could get the right person to look at my USB headset bug report (it was broken by 10.04 and i'm suspecting it wasn't the only one)
[20:19] <ubuntu__> m4tic: ?
[20:19] <ubuntu__> Hello people I need help: I am talking from the Live CD because I am going to fresh install ubuntu, I installed gparted and deleted my sda1 partition, and now it became free space, the thing is than when i go to the install wizard and then choose the option "use the most free space avaliable" it tosses an error: "they are too much primary partitions, cannot continue". Help??
[20:19] <poop23> GeekSquid: And isn't the binary program code compatible accross different distros anyway?
[20:19] <maximus__> hoped it wouldnt come to that....model is HL-DT_ST DVDRAM GH20LS10
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Raphah: the bugs are reviewed with time
[20:19] <joebodo> poop23, you can just put ubuntu on a usb thumb drive and everything is portable
[20:19] <m4tic> ubuntu__ im here wait
[20:20] <maximus__> and firmware version FL00
[20:20] <rapha> ActionParsnip: okay, then i'll just wait
[20:20] <Loshki> rapha: if you filed a bug report (good for you) someone will triage it and it will find the right person (eventually)...
[20:20] <astra-x> thedude42: and is that the same thing as when the installer asks "would you like to encrypt your home directory?" or is that a cryptfs?
[20:20] <poop23> joebodo: Library has BIOS locked down, lol
[20:20] <rapha> Loshki: okay :)
[20:20] <astra-x> thedude42: my only experience with encrypted filesystems is netbsd/openbsd
[20:20] <thedude42> astra-x, so you can do something like yse a smart card in a secure location, but the smart card goes in a safe and when you leave the secure area you can use a passphrase to unlock the drive
[20:20] <duffydack> maximus__, mine is a similar drive.. works ok
[20:20] <desktop-newbie> i just installed Lucid on my Compaq 6820s laptop and but there is a problem with the graphics. The screen flickers a lot. can anyone help?
[20:20] <sh1ny> poop23, stuff isnt portable, as far as distro builds go, because they're mostly not staticly build
[20:20] <GeekSquid> poop23: due to linux's restrictive permissioning system, portable isn't possible... and no the binary is not cross compatible across different distros, because the libraries they call are different from one distro to another
[20:20] <a3ist> ActionParsnip, I have a console embedded in my desktop too, but I like having AWN for managing open windows and launching quickly
[20:20] <thedude42> astra-x, no, the home directory is the old loop device way of doing things
[20:21] <joebodo> poop23, open it up and short out the bios reset jumper
[20:21] <sh1ny> poop23, and you can't just take a binary from ubuntu and run it on redhat
[20:21] <maxxx> maximus__ : LG !
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu__: use custom partitioning and set one partition as / and a much smaller one as /swap equal to the size of your ram if you have >2gb ram
[20:21] <compaq> ubuntu's integration with proprietary is sweet
[20:21] <poop23> joebodo: Lock. (the metal kind)
[20:21] <Snarkster> i dont have any experience with -exec.. keeps telling me im missing an argument
[20:21] <compaq> desktop-newbie, try changing the resolution
[20:21] <maximus__> maxxx: yea LG...why? I all the pc's I sell i use LG coz i've never had one die on me
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> A3ist: trued, I just tend to alt-tab as all I do is chat and browse ;)
[20:21] <desktop-newbie> how?
[20:21] <joebodo> poop23, blowtorch ?
[20:21] <oCean__> Snarkster: see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/435127/
[20:21] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: I cannot resize linux swap
[20:21] <Snarkster> let me RTFM and get back to ya
[20:21] <nimrod10> When I resume back from suspend sometimes I get a black screen.(ubuntu 10.04 32bit ati radeon 3650hd) is there a fix for this ?
[20:21] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: its mounted
[20:22] <poop23> joebodo: Armed security :P
[20:22] <unop> Snarkster, what was the command you used?  does it have a \; at the end?
[20:22] <astra-x> thedude42: rogertive, thanks for the fill-in
[20:22] <maxxx> maximus__ : I am using the same work fine for me.
[20:22] <kjele> ubuntu__: swapoff
[20:22] <m4tic> ubuntu__ delete both the swap and extended. note that to delete the extended you have to first delete its swap, then move the sda3 to the far left, its goin to take about 5 minutes
[20:22] <duffydack> maximus__, what trouble are you having
[20:22] <thedude42> astra-x, you'd be getting LUKS if you used the installer manual partitioning to do a crypto volume
[20:22] <GeekSquid> poop23: libraries in linux are files that are called by binaries that allow things like hardware to be accessed.... different kind of library
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu__: then you can use: sudo swapoff /swap
[20:22] <Loshki> maximus__: got a spare sata port? If so, change ports and see if it helps. You never know...
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu__: look online for the swapoff syntax. Its something like that
[20:23] <ubuntu__> m4tic: my sda3 its the partition with the home, sda1 is the one for the ubuntu programs
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu__: the livecd has spotted the swap space and started using it
[20:23] <maximus__> duffydack: can read cd/dvd perfectly...but have never been able to burn...brasero or k3b or gnomebaker...)= been this way since i started with ubuntu 8.10
[20:23] <poop23> GeekSquid: lol.... i know, but the library's one place I use my windows portableapps :P
[20:23] <etate> what could cause the livecd to freeze when choosing an option? is there some way of getting a usable terminal from the livecd menu?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu__: so you will need to swapoff then unmount it
[20:23] <unop> Snarkster,  find . -name "*.txt" -type f -exec cp -vi {} dest/ \;
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Unop: nice -type switch use ;)
[20:24] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo swapoff /swap
[20:24] <ubuntu__> swapoff: /swap: swapoff failed: No such file or directory
[20:24] <Loshki> Snarkster: you need quotes round the {} i.e. '{}'
[20:24] <compaq> maxiepax, what happens, I burn fine
[20:24] <unop> Loshki, actually, no, you don't
[20:24] <desktop-newbie> the screen flickers like crazy even in console mode. it renders the screen totally unreadable
[20:24] <m4tic> ubuntu__ you currently have no sda1 since you deleted it, after moving sda3 to far left, create a swap next to it and try installing ubuntu on the free space
[20:24] <maximus__> duffydack: all the burners report "wodim: A write error occured" and die within the first 100mb of writing. also k3b states " Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits." and says there's a permissions problem
[20:24] <PennStateJoe74> i'm having some problems with my shift key not working during x11vnc sessions.  it's very annoying because i can only type a capital letter if i use caps lock, and i have no way of using secondary symbols such as the at symbol, unless i google 'at symbol' and then find one, and copy and paste it
[20:25] <Loshki> unop: you don't? I always did? Aren't {} special characters to the shell?
[20:25] <VirusTB> does ext3 allow file sizes larger than 4GB ??
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu__: like I said. Check online for correct syntax
[20:25] <astra-x> thedude42: have you ever had /boot on an md with raid1?
[20:25] <ojii> I installed SCIM on my lucid, but now in some apps (eclipse, flash, chrome, firefox) the keyboard stopps working in the middle of typing until I explicitely switch the input method to SCIM using right click menu. How can I tell all apps that they should just use SCIM?
[20:25] <LjL> VirusTB: yes
[20:25] <maximus__> Loshki: will give another sata port a try too
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Virustb: yes
[20:25] <VirusTB> LjL,  ActionParsnip  up to what max file size does ext3 allow?
[20:25] <duffydack> maximus__, mine isnt dvdram, its a HL-DT-ST' 'DVD+-RW GA31N  and works nearly perfect.. it worked 100% in beta lucid but in final it goes through the motions and looks as if its writing (to a dvd-rw) but its empty afterwards.. does ok for dvd-r and dvd+r tho..  this is with brasero mind.. growisofs works 100%
[20:25] <Loshki> maximus__: a long shot, but harmless and easy to try...
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Virustb: the larget filesize is something stupendous
[20:25] <astra-x> thedude42: failed
[20:25] <astra-x> this pos machine must be changing uuid's
[20:25] <LjL> VirusTB: i'm not sure, probably the size of a 64bit integer
[20:25] <m4tic> ubuntu__ to turn off swap, right click the swap partition in gparted or system monitor in system>admin
[20:25] <thedude42> astra-x, no, just fakeraid
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Virustb: wikipedia has an article on it
[20:25] <unop> Loshki, only if you fill stuff up within {} - e.g. {0..1}  - also, newer shells don't have the problem you describe
[20:26] <astra-x> thedude42: fakeraid are md devices
[20:26] <astra-x> thedude42: softraid1 for boot
[20:26] <thedude42> astra-x, negavitve
[20:26] <Loshki> unop: learn something new every day, thanks...
[20:26] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: oh
[20:26] <VirusTB> ActionParsnip,  lol ok.... well is it a good thing to install  a dual boot  Win7 on NTFS and Untun 10.04 on NTFS?? ( i want windows to be able to see my ubuntu files)
[20:26] <ubuntu__> m4tic: oh ok
[20:26] <ManDay> is it just me or is the youtube video player totally messed up in ubuntu?!?
[20:26] <ManDay> it hardly works
[20:26] <VirusTB> ManDay, just you..
[20:26] <ManDay> cant even pause or play the video
[20:26] <guntbert> VirusTB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Size_limits
[20:27] <m4tic> manday what happens
[20:27] <astra-x> though i am still getting "/dev/mapper/array-root does not exist
[20:27] <kjele> ManDay: using 64 bit?
[20:27] <astra-x> damn
[20:27] <duffydack> maximus__, try making an iso and then try growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso
[20:27] <ManDay> kjele, yep
[20:27] <ManDay> 64b indeed
[20:27] <Snarkster> it does now
[20:27] <maximus__> BRB after updating firmwware and changing sata port
[20:27] <VirusTB> kjele,  im using 64bit, and youtube works fine for me ManDay
[20:27] <jiffe> I have applied quotas to one of my filesystems, I changed the default grace period to 0 but existing users over quota still show a grace period of 6 days accoring to repquota, anyone know how I get those to show 0 now?
[20:27] <ManDay> ppl warned me about it... someone said then that it works just fine
[20:27] <lalla> how to view .so file
[20:27] <ManDay> VirusTB, what package did you get?
[20:27] <guntbert> VirusTB: bad idea
[20:27] <m4tic> manday check your connection speed
[20:27] <desktop-newbie> i can not execute any commands, the screen flickers like crazy and can not read it.
[20:27] <thedude42> astra-x, fakeraid uses the block device driver for communicating with the onboard softraid controller, but the md devices are purely in the kernel module
[20:27] <ManDay> m4tic, ?!
[20:28] <VirusTB> guntbert,  so leave ubuntu on ext3 ???  but how can i get Win7 to sdee the partion in ext3  and read files from it?
[20:28] <guntbert> !md5sum | etate did you check?
[20:28] <Snarkster> its working beautifully now, wanna thank you guys a whole lot.. next time your in phoenix beer is on me
[20:28] <m4tic> its giving me probs 2
[20:28] <maxxx> VirusTB : Vise-versa is possible.!
[20:28] <kjele> ManDay: Try this ppa https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[20:28] <karthik> hi .. echo karthikwork | sed 's/work/dontwork/' => karthikdontwork  ... how do I do  echo karthikwork | sed 's/^work/dontwork/'    ^=NOT   ....??
[20:28] <duffydack> Ive also seen this added to fstab help some people out.   /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 iso9660,udf user,noauto 0 0 (obviously make sure /media/cdrom0 exists, and you might have to swap the iso9660,udf around also..)
[20:28] <Snarkster> gtg. ttyl
[20:29] <desktop-newbie> i think i it is a Lucid bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/linux/+bug/546827
[20:29] <etate> guntbert: no, i will try burning a new CD but i doubt this is the problem
[20:29] <lucid_lynx> is there a way to make a script run everytime a user logs on?
[20:29] <ubuntu__> m4tic: thanks dude
[20:29] <VirusTB> maxxx,  but can windows read ext3 ??
[20:29] <guntbert> VirusTB: you don't need w7 to see the system files - you *can* have /home on another partition (even on NTFS, i guess)
[20:29] <skrite99> any 64 bit users having trouble with quake engine based games?
[20:29] <ubuntu__> m4tic: by the way whats the function of the linux-swap?
[20:29] <astra-x> thedude42: oh i see, fakeraid and softraid differences. i thought ubuntu didn't support fakeraid, else i would just use that
[20:29] <ManDay> kjele, ppa's bah...
[20:29] <ManDay> :P
[20:29] <guntbert> etate: please check the image before burning
[20:29] <dancek> etate, burning a new cd doesn't help if the iso file is corrupt
[20:30] <kudkillioughta> hey guys, i've got a few questions about media players and a2dp in ubuntu
[20:30] <m4tic> ubuntu__ swap acts like a substitute for your RAM memory
[20:30] <maxxx> VirusTB : Not a chance!
[20:30] <kudkillioughta> specifically ubuntu netbook remix
[20:30] <thedude42> astra-x, well, softraid is a term that seems to get thrown around.... usually ambiguity is removed by calling them 'fakeraid' and 'md raid'
[20:30] <ruben-> The bitlbee fix has been released for maverick, can I get it for hardy too then?
[20:30] <VirusTB> astra-x,  ohh RAID??  what u doing, i wanted to get my two 1TB HDD  on my dual boot system as one..
[20:30] <kjele> ManDay: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-nonfree
[20:30] <astra-x> softraid+lvm doesn't like to play ball too easily
[20:30] <oCean__> !swap | ubuntu__
[20:31] <astra-x> i haven't been able to find my lvm's on boot, nothing in /dev/mapper
[20:31] <Pici> ruben-: You can try to see if it can get backported, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[20:31] <ubuntu__> thanks :)
[20:31] <ruben-> thanks Pici.
[20:31] <thedude42> astra-x, but I actually did a fakeraid install on a raid1, and it worked well until one of the disks dies.... then all I had to do was change the kernel image location and boot from the remaining good disk because the bad one was causing the system to hang
[20:31] <m4tic> ubuntu__ how is the installation going?
[20:31] <kudkillioughta> my netbook has a bluetooth dongle attached and i'm using a sony headunit in my car that supports a2dp, i was wondering if there's a media player that uses a2dp and actually recognizes the remote commands from my headunit (play, pause, next track, etc.)
[20:31] <ubuntu__> m4tic: good
[20:31] <astra-x> i might just have to create 4 md partitions and just forget about lvm
[20:32] <etate> guntbert: okay i'll burn the cd again with a md5 checked iso
[20:32] <ManDay> kjele, you sure it works? dont wanna mess up more than it already is - somone once mentioned a config setting that can fix certain problems too
[20:32] <guntbert> etate: Good luck :-)
[20:32] <astra-x> thedude42: yeah, this system needs performance, hence my desire for raid0
[20:32] <neurochrome> maco, back again.. I've added the disk to fstab, but now on boot the drive is there on the desktop... I don;t want to turn off showing mounted disk altogether.. just for this particular disk.. any ideas?
[20:32] <ManDay> kjele, am i required to uninstall the current flashplugin before i do sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-nonfree
[20:32] <gio> qualcuno?
[20:32] <kjele> ManDay: It will do everything for you
[20:33] <desktop-newbie> can anyone help this newbie?
[20:33] <duffydack> ManDay, yup
[20:33] <lengend> Is there any way I can download 9.10?
[20:33] <gio> hallo
[20:33] <jiffe> I have applied quotas to one of my filesystems, I changed the default grace period to 0 but existing users over quota still show a grace period of 6 days accoring to repquota, anyone know how I get those to show 0 now?
[20:33] <thedude42> astra-x, well, if you want performance + low cost, build the raid 0 set in bios then install with fakeraid
[20:33] <astra-x> i am guess i am going to try gentoo and see if that works, although it could be a problem with my board as i have card readers installed, and grub hates those
[20:33] <lalla> how to view .so file
[20:33] <ManDay> duffydack, yup?
[20:33] <maxxx> lengend : torrent sites.
[20:33] <m4tic> ubuntu__ good to hear, setting your /home to the far left is a good move since if you were to shrink it in the near future it won't have to be moved and will save you the risk of losing data and such
[20:33] <astra-x> thedude42: i was going to do that, but debian-installer said that was unsupported
[20:34] <lengend> Besides torrents? Like an http link?
[20:34] <duffydack> ManDay, I`d uninstall, personally.. as it has all the ia32 rubbish with it as well..
[20:34] <neurochrome> lengend, the ubuntu site?!
[20:34] <thedude42> astra-x, yeah, in debian it's not supported
[20:34] <kjele> ManDay: How did you install the current flash?
[20:34] <clausclausclaus> penis
[20:34] <clausclausclaus> penis
[20:34] <clausclausclaus> penis
[20:34] <FloodBot3> clausclausclaus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:34] <maco> clausclausclaus: not appropriate. stop or leave
[20:34] <ManDay> kjele, erm just aptitude and the repos
[20:34] <ManDay> nonfree
[20:34] <VirusTB> clausclausclaus, Stop :D
[20:34] <koanen_t> clausclausclaus: /j #fedora
[20:34] <maco> neurochrome: there should be some way to mark a drive as being an internal one. thats what you need to do. somehow.
[20:34] <lengend> Can't seem to find it there, but I wil search more...
[20:34] <kjele> ManDay: The new one will uninstall the old one for you
[20:34] <maco> koanen_t: dont do that
[20:35] <thebruce> hey guys i have a question about the sound icon in the top status bar. mine is missing. how can i bring it back
[20:35] <thedude42> astra-x, if you want a desktop system that's slick and fast then you are at an impass, but if you want a headless system then consider ubuntu server
[20:35] <koanen_t> clausclausclaus: /j #fedora meet mr idiot called "ryan werber"
[20:35] <ManDay> hm ill better take it the safe way but thanks
[20:35] <maco> koanen_t: sharing the trolls around is no good
[20:35] <neurochrome> maco, yeah, somehow ;0)  I read through the man for fstab.. nothing
[20:35] <koanen_t> clausclausclaus: /j #fedora meet mr idiot called "nirik"
[20:35] <ManDay> ill uninstall first
[20:35] <astra-x> thedude42: thanks for the help, though i'd really like to know what is causing all my boot attempts to fail
[20:35] <maco> koanen_t: STOP
[20:35] <neurochrome> lengend, http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[20:35] <Haegin> Hi, I'm getting some rather odd display artifacts on my second screen since updating a few days ago. anyone have any idea why? http://i.imgur.com/CMlQ1.png
[20:35] <astra-x> thedude42: this is my workstation for testing thigns before they hit production, so run vmware and a lot of linux apps at a time
[20:35] <ManDay> kjele, i dont even know the name of the current one - is it flashplugin installer?!
[20:36] <lengend> Thanks neurochrome!!!
[20:36] <kjele> ManDay: I am telling you. you can just install the new one. It will remove the old one. The package too.
[20:36] <thedude42> astra-x, i have seen issues with the initrd not getting built right for funky configurations of the /boot location
[20:36] <neurochrome> lengend, no worries.. next time just search google ;)
[20:37] <astra-x> thedude42: yeah, that is why i've always liked bzImages as opposed to ramfs images
[20:37] <ManDay> kjele, tried to get it from the PPA (after uninstalling flashplugin-installer :/ ) i get ... an error: E: Couldn't find package flashplugin64-nonfree
[20:38] <kjele> ManDay: sudo apt-get flashplugin64-installer
[20:38] <desktop-newbie> it seems this is the bug that is causing me grief: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/577460
[20:38] <desktop-newbie> can anyone help me overcome this?
[20:38] <agentgasmask> Hi all! My remotely connected employee can't ping my ip address. could there ISP have blocked it?
[20:38] <astra-x> though i guess i could always stick /boot on a sata cf card, but i fear that may cause as many problems as it solves
[20:38] <ManDay> kjele, you are a genius
[20:38] <thedude42> astra-x, well, if you want you can try and install /boot on a CF card with an ide adapter
[20:39] <m4tic> that's it, i'm hitting the sack! bye pippol
[20:39] <etate> guntbert: i checked the md5sum of the iso that i used to burn the cd, its fine
[20:39] <agentgasmask> m4tic: what time is it there?
[20:39] <m4tic> its 21:40 in south africa
[20:39] <kjele> ManDay: You need to restart the browser to take effect
[20:39] <ManDay> my internet is AW-FULLY slow  - any idea how to figure out WHY? I assume its my WLAN connection but I'm not 100 sure. Only thing I'm certain of is that from my router on its blazing fast
[20:39] <adeola0405> hello
[20:40] <agentgasmask> m4tic: Ah, well best get to bed then! good night!
[20:40] <ManDay> kjele, stop it ! im flattered by your igeniuity
[20:40] <karthik> I know to remove all the tags we do   sed 's/<[^>]*>//g  ..   What if I had two characters following ^(not) ?  [^ab] would be OR.. how to do Negate+And
[20:40] <guntbert> etate: good, now it makes sense to burn again :-)
[20:40] <ManDay> restart firefox, gosh - thats so... :D
[20:40] <ManDay> ;P
[20:40] <kudkillioughta> what would you guys recommend, i have my laptop running ubuntu 10.04 and want to mess around with KDE, should i install kubuntu or just put KDE on the existing install?
[20:40] <astra-x> thedude42: sata/ide doesn't matter, uuid's can change without warning. That is why i wish sata devices had universal id numbers like SAS
[20:40] <neurochrome> ManDay, ipv6?
[20:40] <adeola0405> I'm lookin for help with my sound in Lucid
[20:40] <thedude42> ManDay, have you tried with a wired connection to see if it makes a difference?
[20:40] <jiffe> I have applied quotas to one of my filesystems, I changed the default grace period to 0 but existing users over quota still show a grace period of 6 days accoring to repquota, anyone know how I get those to show 0 now?
[20:40] <ManDay> neurochrome, nope
[20:41] <ManDay> thedude42, no man i have no wires arround - but im 100% sure its not the router
[20:41] <ManDay> it must be something in the air
[20:41] <etate> guntbert: should i limit the speed or just leave it on max?
[20:41] <Aji-Dahaka> I have a bluetooth headset with controls.  The pause button works when I am logged in, but when the screen is locked, I cannot use the pause button.  Is there a way to "fix" that?
[20:41] <VCoolio> kudkillioughta: install kubuntu-desktop and choose from login; you'll have the same home folder and can switch whenever you want
[20:41] <guntbert> etate: by all means - limit it
[20:42] <thedude42> ManDay, well, if it might be your wireless card then you need some way to figure that out.... maybe try connecting to some other open network?
[20:42] <ManDay> eh kjele works great ! thanks !
[20:42] <Riviera> karthik: that's very tricky. Two strategies: Use a regex engine that supports non-greedy matching (you could use perl as a filter), convert the multi-byte patterns to single characters (after escaping those single characters), then use your original approach on that and undo the escaping. Also, there's channels like ##sed, #regex, #perl, etc.
[20:42] <kjele> ManDay: Good it works
[20:42] <adeola0405> hellooooooo
[20:42] <neurochrome> ManDay, what chipset is your wifi card? Is the network protected?
[20:42] <astra-x> thedude42: have you used 10.04 on fakeraid? ubuntu is getting angry and is not able to partition
[20:42] <dlyneswork> Are there any recent updates to wireshark for ubuntu jaunty?  It only seems to ship with a crusty old 1.07 version
[20:42] <Riviera> karthik: And: For handling data like xml and html, there often are better ways.
[20:43] <ManDay> thedude42, im even kind of confidedt that it IS my wifi card (which is rather a piece of junk) - but i wonder whether i can help it - neurochrome
[20:43] <thedude42> astra-x, i was suggesting the CF card so you could get the rest of the install in the md0, and the md0 doesn't need to have the boot sector
[20:43] <ManDay> neurochrome, yep WPA2 the card is -- dunno. removed the plastic cover
[20:43] <dlyneswork> And for various reasons, not the least of which is nfs, we can't jump to 9.1 or 10.04
[20:43] <ManDay> its some cheap one
[20:43] <ManDay> ah wait i remember the company is called HAMA neurochrome
[20:43] <thedude42> ManDay, yeah, depends what kind of card it is, you may have options to tweak it
[20:43] <Vital{ReBorN}> Hey, Is there anyway to establish a dialup connection, Without using something like wvdial that awaits you to try and access a webpage? I can't use any applications
[20:44] <neurochrome> ManDay, just sudo lshw   -- and sudo lspci  -- pleaes
[20:44] <bonnyM> hi
[20:44] <ManDay> thedude42, i would prefer a way of figuring that out the analytical way and not try out random tweaks
[20:44] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, you're wanting to use the command line?
[20:44] <Vital{ReBorN}> Anything
[20:44] <Vital{ReBorN}> Er
[20:44] <karthik> Riviera: okay . I ll try #sed / #regex .. thanks
[20:44] <Vital{ReBorN}> I wanna mainly get on pidgin
[20:44] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, ah...so you do have a gui....you just said you can't use any applications
[20:45] <thedude42> astra-x, I had 9.10 on fakeraid install of server, and I have no reason to doubt 10.04 would have any issues.... all my problems with 10.04 I have had thus far are related to nvidia drivers, and stuff that I knew could cause issues (ie virtualbox and kvm living side by side)
[20:45] <ManDay> neurochrome, lshw, hey didnt know this one! cool
[20:45] <neurochrome> ManDay, you need to find out the chipset... lshw (list hardware) and lspci will give you a breakdown about hardware
[20:45] <neurochrome> ManDay, welcome to linux
[20:45] <ManDay> ...
[20:45] <Vital{ReBorN}> dlyneswork, Well I mean only apps that use the internet, Like pidgin, bittorrent clients, IRC.. wetc
[20:45] <Vital{ReBorN}> etc*
[20:45] <ManDay> i just dont keep a list of a million tools in my head
[20:45] <neurochrome> ManDay, is it a broadcom by chance? -- do sudo lshw -class network
[20:45] <ManDay> but thanks for the welcome - a little late that comes but eh.
[20:45] <thedude42> ManDay, well the problem is that most wireless cards are implemented with driver-loaded firmware and so the tools you may have are highly dependant on your card manufacturer
[20:45] <Vital{ReBorN}> But I can connect with wvdial, and gnome-ppp but all I can use is software manager and firefox
[20:45] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, apt-get install diald
[20:46] <desktop-newbie> Compaq 6820s with ATI Mobility Radeon X1350
[20:46] <neurochrome> ManDay, this is basics, but nevermind ;)
[20:46] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, it's a dial on demand daemon for ppp and slipo
[20:46] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, it's a dial on demand daemon for ppp and slip
[20:46] <ManDay> neurochrome, lspci is basics
[20:46] <astra-x> thedude42: yeah i don't even know how to debug this, i don't really get an error message other than "fail"
[20:46] <ManDay> lshw never needed it
[20:46] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, it's just a pain in the ass to use...you'll have to edit some text files to configure it
[20:46] <handjob> Hi all. I just installed 10.04 on friend's laptop (emachine 620) and I can't get local internet connection to work. It's not detected by network manager which is kind a strange since desktop runing ubuntu does not have any problem with it.
[20:46] <neurochrome> ManDay, lspci is very handy though!
[20:46] <Vital{ReBorN}> dlyneswork- Uh, Dial on demand, Like it waits for me to access something then retrieves it? like gnome-ppp?
[20:47] <neurochrome> ManDay, sooo... what is the results of lshw - class network
[20:47] <neurochrome> s/- class/-class
[20:47] <abstrakt> where can i download Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[20:47] <adeola0405> hello
[20:47] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, it monitors your dialup internet connection, and when it goes down, automatically dials back up to reconnect you
[20:47] <ManDay> neurochrome, gotta disappoint you, lshw is as telling as /dev/zero
[20:47] <maximus_> new sata port and new firmware....same issue )= However i did find that i can write data disks fine, but audio cd's fail after writing the first track or 2
[20:47] <neurochrome> abstrakt, search google its about the thrid link down
[20:47] <ManDay> neurochrome, i can paste it for you, see yourself
[20:48] <adeola0405> i need help fixing my sound in Lucid
[20:48] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, basically, it's a SLIP/PPP client
[20:48] <thedude42> astra-x, well if you want to give it a  shot, 10.04 will definitely detect the raid controller and give you the option to install on that
[20:48] <Vital{ReBorN}> So
[20:48] <neurochrome> ManDay,  ok ... did you run it as super-user?
[20:48] <alket1> why OpenSuse has 4GB Iso and Ubuntu has just 700 MB ?
[20:48] <ManDay> neuro_damage, http://codepad.org/Wnxgydb1
[20:48] <neurochrome> abstrakt, http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[20:48] <Vital{ReBorN}> dlyneswork, It keeps me connected at all times, rather then wait for me to browse the web?
[20:48] <Vital{ReBorN}> just like DSL would?
[20:48] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, You're not on dialup?  You're on DSL?
[20:48] <Vital{ReBorN}> Nope, I'm on dialup
[20:49] <agentgasmask> what would cause my ip to not be ping-able but I can use the internet?
[20:49] <erUSUL> alket1: ubuntu desings the iso to fit in a CD-R
[20:49] <thedude42> alket1, because opensuse includes a lot of extra things that ubuntu assumes you will get from the repos online
[20:49] <etate> guntbert: didn't make a difference :-(
[20:49] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, why would you have to browse the web to trigger a connection?
[20:49] <Vital{ReBorN}> but I want it to stay connected at all times like dsl would, rather then wait for me to browse the web and retrieve it
[20:49] <neurochrome> ManDay, possibly a realtek,  you'll need to get the code from lspci to be sure
[20:49] <abstrakt> agentgasmask, does your IP start with 192 ?
[20:49] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, that sounds like something stupid microsoft would make you do
[20:49] <Vital{ReBorN}> dlyneswork, I don't know, wvdial and gnome-ppp seems like that's what they do
[20:49] <etate> still gets stuck at the livecd screen after pressing a key and getting to the menu :'(
[20:50] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, diald doesn't do that
[20:50] <agentgasmask> abstrakt: no, it's the outside one, I have a static address
[20:50] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, it attempts to maintain a constant connection
[20:50] <Vital{ReBorN}> dlyneswork, Okay thanks, I'm gonna reboot in linux and try it, I'll come back and let you know how it goes
[20:50] <U-b-u-n-t-u> my cd rom isnt working since upgrading to 10.04 what can be done about it
[20:50] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, as long as your isp doesn't have any timeouts
[20:50] <etate> the hardrive LED blinks and the cd drive seems to have some activity, but it just doesn't progress from there
[20:50] <thedude42> agentgasmask: firewall
[20:50] <agentgasmask> thedude42: even for just pining?
[20:50] <joebodo> agentgasmask, icmp has to be allowed through firewall
[20:50] <xerox1> just created a live usb stick with unetbootin; didn't seem to work, so i would like to look at the content of the stick: now i can't mount the stick any more...
[20:51] <dlyneswork> Vital{ReBorN}, you might need to cruise the net, or check out the documentation on diald to figure out how to configure it...and i'm at work, so I don't have the time to teach you how to use it
[20:51] <guntbert> etate: do you get the menu where you can choose "test without changing"  "install" "check..." ?
[20:51] <thedude42> agentgasmask, drop means drop
[20:51] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: Are you sure it is not defected?
[20:51] <dlyneswork> Does anyone know if I can install a debian wireshark backport?  Jaunty doesn't seem to have one
[20:51] <agentgasmask> thedude42: what do you mean "drop"
[20:51] <etate> guntbert: no, i have to press a key then i get a language menu, then a menu with "Try ubuntu before installing" "Install ubuntu ... etc"
[20:52] <U-b-u-n-t-u> kjele, when I put a cd in it does nothing when I try to click on it in "computer" I can't open it etc
[20:52] <ManDay> neurochrome, its not a realtek
[20:52] <thedude42> agentgasmask, drop packets... the default drop policy on ufw is drop, i believe
[20:52] <ManDay> its HAMA
[20:52] <etate> guntbert: if i select any of the options the hard drive and cd drive spin, and then nothing happens
[20:52] <b01i> Hello, I bougth a HP Prolaint ML150G6 server, and I want to install Ubuntu server on it.  In the HP list of supported linux S.O for this model (ML150G6) say Suse Enterprise or RedHat Enterprise.  Someone knows if is posible to install Ubuntu in this HP model (ML150G6)?
[20:52] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: Have you tried to put a livecd and check if it works there?
[20:52] <U-b-u-n-t-u> kjele, that works
[20:52] <thedude42> agentgasmask, sorry, that was ambiguous... the default policy is drop, is what I meant to say
[20:52] <neurochrome> ManDay, on the left-hand side there will be a alpha-numeric code like "00:1d.7" which will tell you the exact hardware "0000:00:1d.7"
[20:53] <erUSUL> b01i: #ubuntu-server
[20:53] <agentgasmask> thedude42: ok, I'll check the settings
[20:53] <U-b-u-n-t-u> kjele, ill try a music cd too
[20:53] <guntbert> etate: that was what I was referring to - badly worded --- that issue is really strange
[20:53] <neurochrome> ManDay, are you 100% sure?
[20:53] <agentgasmask> joebodo: what is icmp?
[20:53] <unclemantis> what is the easiest way to upgrade 8.10?
[20:53] <U-b-u-n-t-u> kjele, actually I am not sure live cd works since I install via upgrade
[20:53] <joebodo> agentgasmask, protocol for ping
[20:53] <neurochrome> ManDay, try installing hardinfo, as that is a GUI based tool that gives you a complete breakdown of your system
[20:53] <greezmunkey> Internet Control Message(ing) Protocol
[20:54] <agentgasmask> joebodo: ok, thanks
[20:54] <neurochrome> !hardinfo
[20:54] <SwedeMike> unclemantis: you have two choices, upgrade step by step, or re-install from scratch.
[20:54] <guntbert> etate: rereading your statement one thing comes to my mind: a CD drive gone bad
[20:54] <joebodo> agentgasmask, if you are looking in router configuration, it should have an option to allow icmp traffic
[20:54] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: Do you have an old livecd?
[20:54] <Jordan_U> unclemantis: Why do you want to upgrade to such an old version? The current release is 10.04.
[20:54] <thedude42> !ufw > agentgasmask
[20:54] <unclemantis> blah, can't do a reinstall, i have stuff on there that has taken me months to get the way i wanted.... MySQL, etc..
[20:54] <U-b-u-n-t-u> kjele, actually just tried live cd and a music cd and nothing happen
[20:54] <etate> guntbert: indeed, i've been looking for a solution on the net for hours, and most point to a graphics problem, something to do with the driver being out of synch. However, i tried the fixes in launchpad and on the forums but nothing has worked so far.
[20:54] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: ok
[20:54] <b01i> erUSUL:  when i try with ubuntu server cd, an error occur:  no common cd-rom drive was detected
[20:54] <unclemantis> I ment to say FROM 8.10 TO 10.04
[20:55] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: Can you open a terminal and type "gksudo /etc/fstab"
[20:55] <ojii> I installed SCIM on my lucid, but now in some apps (eclipse, flash, chrome, firefox) the keyboard stopps working in the middle of typing until I explicitely switch the input method to SCIM using right click menu. How can I tell all apps that they should just use SCIM?
[20:55] <guntbert> etate: how about testing it in another machine?
[20:55] <b01i> Maybe isn't an ubuntu think, but i dont know what can i do...
[20:56] <U-b-u-n-t-u> kjele, done
[20:56] <etate> guntbert: okay i'll test it on here and get back to you once i find out if it works
[20:56] <etate> brb in 5 mins
[20:56] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: save and close it
[20:56] <adeola0405> No sound from my HP desktop, lspci gives audio card: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02). I'm running Lucid
[20:56] <adeola0405> can anyone help
[20:56] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: Sorry
[20:57] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: Add this add the bottom "/dev/cdrom  /media/cdrom  auto  ro,noauto,user,exec  0 0"
[20:57] <joebodo> !sound | adeola0405
[20:57] <agentgasmask> ubottu: sorry, kinda new to irc, I'm on irssi, do you know how I do that?
[20:57] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: Without the quotes
[20:57] <unclemantis> so how do i upgrade to the recent version? I have a Rackspace Cloud Server
[20:58] <AhmedBH> hi, i wanna ask that can i install ubuntu on a macbook pro 17" ? without any third party application involving the installation but right from a bootup ?
[20:58] <pynchon> ?DCC SEND "GayNiggerAssociationofAmerica" 0 0 0
[20:58] <rooster14> HIII
[20:58] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[20:58] <dlyneswork> Can debian packages be installed on jaunty?  How about karmic packages on jaunty?
[20:58] <rooster14> HI please
[20:58] <aquilotto> hi all
[20:58] <U-b-u-n-t-u> kjele, done
[20:58] <koanen_t> Måste-Gå-Å-Bajsa-BRB :)
[20:58] <erUSUL> dlyneswork: better not to mix repos/deb packages
[20:58] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: save the file and check if you cdrom works now
[20:58] <aquilotto> there is someone italian?
[20:58] <onetinsoldier> unclemantis: if you running 8.10, you'd have to upgrade one version at a time all the way to 10.04. you'd need to be running 8.04 in order to upgrade straight to 10.04
[20:58] <erUSUL> !it | aquilotto
[20:58] <mneptok> !it > aquilotto
[20:59] <unclemantis> damn it that sucks
[20:59] <onetinsoldier> yeah
[20:59] <unclemantis> where do i go to read how to do this?
[20:59] <dlyneswork> erUSUL, So I guess my only solution is to download wireshark sources, compile and install (after removing wireshark packages)?
[20:59] <mneptok> erUSUL: ai caralho.
[20:59] <rooster14> привет всем
[20:59] <rooster14> !!
[20:59] <etate> guntbert: yeah it loads on this computer
[20:59] <rooster14> питухи
[20:59] <dlyneswork> erUSUL, the wireshark on jaunty is ancient....that's why I'm having to do this
[20:59] <mneptok> !ru | rooster14
[21:00] <erUSUL> !backports | dlyneswork
[21:00] <onetinsoldier> unclemantis: not sure. there may be a guide, but you pretty must just run... sudo update-manager -c
[21:00] <erUSUL> dlyneswork: also check out !ppa
[21:00] <rooster14> ПИТУХИ В ЧЯТЕ
[21:00] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: Does it work?
[21:00] <dlyneswork> erUSUL, no backports for it for jaunty...only karmic
[21:00] <rooster14> ГАГАГ
[21:00] <FloodBot3> rooster14: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[21:00] <rooster14> ПЕТУШНЯ
[21:00] <dlyneswork> !ppa
[21:00] <guntbert> etate: then it seems to be a hardware problem - my guess: 1) CD, 2) RAM
[21:00] <luis_> I need a simple sound recorder that works from a terminal, thanks
[21:00] <unclemantis> floodbot it flooding LOL
[21:00] <dlyneswork> erUSUL, thanks....didn't know about that
[21:00] <unclemantis> so just keep typing sudo update-manager -c
[21:01] <etate> guntbert: isn't there some ramfs that gets loaded at some point in booting the livecd?
[21:01] <donavan01> any one know if there is a way to keep ubuntu from asking for my password everytime I update or ‌install a new program ?
[21:01] <xerox1> fdisk -l does not list my usb stick; what can i do?
[21:01] <neurochrome> manday, post results of lspci -nn
[21:01] <guntbert> etate: yes, I think so
[21:01] <etate> guntbert: the computer i'm talking about has ben iffy installing the previous version of ubuntu too - but i managed to get sabayon installed
[21:02] <Condoulo> is there any reason as to why I cannot move a panel (gnome-panel) over to my second monitor? I had no issue doing this in 9.10 (with GNOME 2.28), but can't seem to do this in Ubuntu 10.04 (GNOME 2.30)
[21:02] <etate> guntbert: well, the previous version installed fine but wouldn't load correctly after boot
[21:02] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: If not then you need to make the folder "sudo mkdir -p /media/cdrom"
[21:02] <U-b-u-n-t-u> kjele, nothing
[21:02] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ok
[21:03] <ManDay> neurochrome, http://codepad.org/mQdZtwzT
[21:03] <guntbert> etate: to test the RAM: there are several live CDs with memtest, I guess it could be even put onto an usb stick
[21:03] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ok I changed fstab and issued the command to make the dir with sudo mkdir -p /media/cdrom
[21:03] <U-b-u-n-t-u> nothing
[21:04] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: type mount and pastebin it for me
[21:04] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ok
[21:05] <etate> guntbert: i'll run memtest86 on it and see what happens
[21:05] <etate> guntbert: thing is if the ram was broken i would have expected some form of corruption in the past whilst using it
[21:05] <neurochrome> ManDay, looks like your wifi card isn't supported that well at all http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457947
[21:05] <U-b-u-n-t-u> kjele, http://paste.ubuntu.com/435149/
[21:06] <guntbert> etate: be sure to let at least one pass complete (only the later tests do get the nasty errors :-))
[21:06] <Guest77675> after upgrade cursor doesn't display itself on screen.  i can get it back by running display properties and selecting anything..is there anyway to reconfigure X automatically?
[21:06] <Condoulo> So any reason why I can't get a panel to my second monitor properly in GNOME 2.30 in UBuntu 10.04?
[21:06] <Gletob> Can anyone help me out I'm trying to get my friend's wifi working from here it's a BCM4318 PCI and he just installed ubuntu, and has no way to get internet access in ubuntu.
[21:06] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: And what do wodim --devices says?
[21:06] <v0lksman> dual screen setup.  in karmic my desktop wall paper would stretch across both screens.  in lucid each monitor gets its own copy of the wallpaper...anyway to set a different wall paper per screen?
[21:06] <guntbert> etate: I think you made a fine observation with your statement about a ramdisk ...
[21:06] <neurochrome> Gletob, try madwifi
[21:07] <U-b-u-n-t-u> kjele, wodim: Overview of accessible drives (0 found) :
[21:07] <greezmunkey> v0lksman: I think you need compiz to do that...
[21:07] <tamir> Hi
[21:07] <Condoulo> v0lksman, as far as I know that function isn't in GNOME by default
[21:07] <v0lksman> greezmunkey, yes...compiz is installed and running
[21:07] <tamir> can i speak my problem here ?
[21:07] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: That is very bad.
[21:08] <neurochrome> !ask | tamir
[21:08] <unclemantis> i have a new friend that I will have upgrade the server.
[21:08] <U-b-u-n-t-u> kjele, thats my luck
[21:08] <paddy> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=hQ0ub3qK,  I have this wierd problem where I can access only one row of a table, you will see what i mean if you look at the output
[21:08] <unclemantis> Thanks folks
[21:08] <zaida>  ho appena installato ubuntu lucid e non riesco a far funzionare il microfono potete trovare la descrizione del mio hardware e i livelli del mio mixer a questo indirizzo http://nopaste.info/f9c64cefff.html  comunque premetto che ho due schede audio e con nessuna delle due risco a far funzionare il microfono mentre con entrambe riesco a far funzionare perfettamente audio e dolbysurround
[21:08] <Condoulo> GNOME's support for dual-monitor configs in terms of stuff like wallpaper and Panels
[21:08] <kjele> U-b-u-n-t-u: You might check if the hardware is faulty. See if the plug is connected correctly and that the bios detect it.
[21:08] <zaida> sorry
[21:08] <U-b-u-n-t-u> kjele,  ok
[21:08] <neurochrome> zaida, no worries!
[21:08] <razass> Hi I had vista and ubuntu on a dual boot but when I upgraded vista to 7 it erased the bootloader.....do I need to re-install ubuntu or can I fix this some how?
[21:08] <U-b-u-n-t-u> brb
[21:09] <guntbert> !it | zaida
[21:09] <joebodo> !grub | razass
[21:09] <neurochrome> razass, you need to install grub from a livecd
[21:09] <dlyneswork> erUSUL, Perfect...got a bleeding edge svn version, but at least it's better than something that doesn't work period, because it's so old :)
[21:09] <razass> ok this iwas ubuntu 10.04
[21:09] <erUSUL> dlyneswork: glad it worked for you
[21:09] <hendrixski> anybody know how to read the result of a cost estimate using "complexity points" and has 4 numbers at the total cost, which doesn't make much sense?
[21:09] <tamir> ok - i want to watch a .mkv with softsubs from right to left... i tried : totem vlc MPlayer SMPlayer with no luck
[21:09] <razass> does it stll use grub?
[21:09] <wrapster> im unable to play any  youtube videos.. i just reinstalled my machine..
[21:10] <neurochrome> razass, yes grub2
[21:10] <hendrixski> or even which IRC channel I might go to that someone could know?
[21:10] <wrapster> i know im missing some pkg.. not sure what it is...
[21:10] <duffydack> razass, boot livecd/usb and do sudo grub-install /dev/sda (if its sda)
[21:10] <wrapster> can anyone pls tell me.
[21:10] <lamefun> wewt :D
[21:10] <lamefun> hello
[21:10] <razass> thanks
[21:10] <Condoulo> Is there any reason why in Ubuntu 10.04 using GNOME 2.30, I cannot create/drag over a panel to my second monitor?
[21:11] <neurochrome> hendrixski, this is the IRC channel for an operating system... ;)
[21:11] <Gletob> neurochrome, I thought that was for Atheros?
[21:11] <costre> wrapster, install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:11] <Dev^Null> hey all I am trying to install inb and outb but I cannot figure out what package there are in anyone have any idea
[21:11] <hendrixski> neurochrome, I know, it's also the first one that opens up when I open IRC, so I figured someone could direct me to the right channel
[21:11] <neurochrome> Gletob, certain broadcom chipsets yes....  You'd have to double check
[21:11] <Dev^Null> I am running 9.10
[21:11] <guntbert> hendrixski: #freenode is the general help channel of this network
[21:11] <neurochrome> hendrixski, erm, no
[21:12] <hendrixski> guntbert, ah, good to know
[21:12] <thedude42> Condoulo, i installed 9.04 on this box, upgreded to 9.10 and 10.04, and that functionality never existed for me... is there a chance you had to do something to get that working in the first place?
[21:12] <poop23> how do i open LZO file
[21:12] <poop23> gui-based preferably
[21:12] <eshi> is the 64 bit lucid release noticeably faster than the 32-bit version?
[21:12] <Condoulo> thedude42, Didn't have to do anything. In 9.10/GNOME 2.28, I just had to create a panel on my main monitor, un-expand it, and then I was able to drag it from monitor 0 to monitor 1. Now I can't even do that.
[21:12] <Gletob> neurochrome, I don't think madwifi will work
[21:12] <a3ist> Condoulo, do you have nvidia-settings?  You need to run them in a TwinView configuration, not as separate X screens
[21:12] <etate> guntbert: I think I just embarked on a lengthy process, this memtest86 may take the better part of my life to complete :-)
[21:13] <Condoulo> a3ist, I'm using fglrx.
[21:13] <tamir> i use ubuntu 10.04 and I want to watch a .mkv with softsubs from right to left... i tried : totem vlc MPlayer SMPlayer with no luck Im pretty sure i got it working on 9.10 cant remember how ...
[21:13]  * Condoulo is on AT.
[21:13] <Gletob> Can anyone help me out I'm trying to get my friend's wifi working from here it's a BCM4318 PCI and he just installed ubuntu, and has no way to get internet access in ubuntu.
[21:13] <v0lksman> if I figure out how to setup compiz to have a different background per desktop does it still have a bug that kills desktop icons
[21:13] <v0lksman> ?
[21:13] <donavan01> i used WUBI to install 10.04 in windows 7 is there a way to get access to my windows files ?
[21:13] <lamefun> uh.... same Nautilus bug like in ArchLinux :(
[21:13] <acicula> etate it runs increasingly more complex test, it can take a looong time to do them all
[21:13] <neurochrome> Condoulo, yes because you need to tell the panel to no stretch then drag it.. I have no idea why Gnome devs have been smoking wacky shit recently
[21:13] <guntbert> etate: sorry - forgot to mention that - but you can safely let it run over night, it will record any errors
[21:13] <thedude42> Condoulo, odd, I just did exactly that and it works fine
[21:14] <ManDay> neurochrome, hm thanks. so you suggest that this is the cause for my netspeed being so slow at many times?
[21:14] <soreau> v0lksman: It's not a bug, it's just that compiz (rightfully) does not do a file managers of drawing icons
[21:14] <Condoulo> neurochrome, I'm personally on the verge of going to XFCE.
[21:14] <neurochrome> ManDay, more than likely
[21:14] <Condoulo> thedude42, what graphics do you have?
[21:14] <etate> acicula, guntbert: is it supposed to return 0 errors or are a few errors acceptable?
[21:14] <neurochrome> Condoulo, I'm lost as to where to go next
[21:14] <soreau> v0lksman: Also, a desktop without icons is much cleaner looking IMHO
[21:14] <mohjak> After Upgrading to 10.04 I can't start vuze anymore how to start it again?
[21:14] <thedude42> Condoulo, nvidia, but it also works on my laptop with an ati card
[21:15] <neurochrome> Condoulo, gnome is/was my favourite, but they're starting to treat users like idiots
[21:15] <v0lksman> soreau, is there a way to force it?  I use my desktop icons to remind me what I'm doing... :)
[21:15] <guntbert> etate: I usually get 0 errors - I never kept a stick which had errors
[21:15] <ManDay> neurochrome, ok, i shouldnt have bought a wifi card that was in a box with plastic watches and fake sunglasses...
[21:15] <ManDay> i think
[21:15] <kjele> soreau: You can disable the desktop icons if you like that
[21:15] <Condoulo> thedude42, Weird. =/ this is driving me nuts because I can't to create a panel on my second monitor to have two taskbars.
[21:15] <soreau> v0lksman: Force what? Compiz Does Not do any icons
[21:15] <neurochrome> ManDay, lol, perhaps not
[21:15] <etate> guntbert: okay so if any errors occur then the ram is bad, good to know
[21:15] <neurochrome> ManDay, linux emporium is a great palce for compatible cards
[21:16] <thedude42> Condoulo, try disabling compiz?
[21:16] <Gletob> Can anyone help me out I'm trying to get my friend's wifi working from here it's a BCM4318 PCI and he just installed ubuntu, and has no way to get internet access in ubuntu.
[21:16] <ManDay> neurochrome, empori-what?
[21:16] <neurochrome> Condoulo, do as I said
[21:16] <a3ist> Condoulo, here's a pastebin of my working xorg.conf.  I run two monitors with the desktop stretching across both so I can drag things around:      http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/hKZJ3cM4
[21:16] <v0lksman> soreau, ok compiz doesn't do it but is there a way to get the icons to display over compiz backgrounds?
[21:16] <soreau> kjele: v0lksman is the one with the problem, I already have my linux installs configured
[21:16] <joebodo> mohjak, try starting it from command line - you may have java issues
[21:16] <duffydack> I use compiz scale to remind me what Im doing.
[21:16] <Condoulo> neurochrome, lately both KDE and XFCE have been looking attractive to me. And both have much more configuration options for dual monitors.
[21:16] <neurochrome> ManDay, linuxemporium
[21:16] <Condoulo> thedude42, I tried disabling compiz.
[21:16] <timyeung> hey I have a 250gb external harddrive. every time I plug it in and try to put files onto it it tells me it is read-only. So I am trying to reformat it using gparted but it keeps telling me I am getting some error. Any Ideas/??
[21:16] <Condoulo> neurochrome, lemme scroll up quick. o_O
[21:16] <soreau> v0lksman: There was some hack to do it in the past but that has long been destroyed by nautilus and/or libeel changes
[21:16] <greezmunkey> etate: also, it's good to power down, and reseat things prior to running a memtest :0
[21:16]  * Cayzer testing irc 
[21:17] <Condoulo> neurochrome, thats what I tried doing. Un-expanding the panel when I create it, and then I try dragging it, and it won't let me drag the panel.
[21:17] <v0lksman> soreau, damn...I hate the way lucid is displaying my background...
[21:17] <guntbert> etate: mostly there are either no errors or many :-)
[21:17] <neurochrome> condoulo go into panel prefs by right clicking it then select the don't stretch option (or w/e)
[21:17] <ManDay> neurochrome, never heard of it - what is it good for?
[21:17] <BeWolF> lol Cayzer
[21:17] <joebodo> timyeung, do you dual boot with windows using the external drive ?
[21:17] <a3ist> Condoulo, check out my pastebin and look at the section for "Screen" which enumerates the Twinview options necessary to combine the screens as one desktop
[21:17]  * Cayzer is leaving 
[21:17] <neurochrome> ManDay, it ash a list of hardware that works with linux
[21:17] <BeWolF> ^^
[21:17] <kjele> soreau: Do you have a beautiful wallpaper?
[21:17] <Cayzer> leave
[21:17] <neurochrome> ManDay, *has
[21:17] <Condoulo> neurochrome, you mean unchecking Expand, right?
[21:17] <Condoulo> a3ist, isn't Twin-view an nVidia option though?
[21:18] <neurochrome> Condoulo, yeah - for some reason I can't do it right now!?
[21:18] <a3ist> Condoulo, I honestly have no idea :p
[21:18] <neurochrome> Condoulo, now grab the edges and you can move it
[21:18] <Condoulo> neurochrome, thats exactly what I'm having a problem with.
[21:18] <ManDay> neurochrome, right im fine so far. nothing out of the ordinary here. amd64 and ps35 is nothing that a normal distro wouldnt handle out of the box
[21:18] <neurochrome> Condoulo, what you can't go to preferences?
[21:18] <xorwhy> My mouse movement is jerky and choppy.
[21:18] <vlt> Hello. I'm trying to setup pidgin on Ubuntu and am looking for someone using it with gmail's XMPP for video calls successfully (willing to test my connection for a few seconds). Anyone?
[21:18] <ManDay> just that cheap wifi card is not that good of a deal
[21:18] <Condoulo> neurochrome, no, I can go into preferences. What I've been trying to do is drag the panel over (with the edges once its not expanded).
[21:19] <neurochrome> manday, I'm talking about a site that can sell you a wifi card that works
[21:19] <HouseKatZe> lol
[21:19] <fosco_> buenas
[21:19] <aha> salesman detected!
[21:19] <koanen_t> guntbert!!!
[21:19] <neurochrome> Condoulo, why can't we go to preferences, has it been removed?
[21:19] <timyeung> joebodo, no i am just using it for backup
[21:20] <Condoulo> I changed a setting in ATI CCC. I'll brb.
[21:20] <kjele> vlt: Can't you just make two account and test it yourself?
[21:20] <Energetic> somehow, i fail to create a bootable usb device. Iv tried LinuxLive USB Creator 2.5, Unetbootin and MultiBootIso
[21:20] <williams> #kubuntu
[21:20] <Energetic> Anything I may be forgetting?
[21:20] <timyeung> joebodo, gparted lists it as ms filesystem....
[21:20] <vlt> kjele: Only have one camera :(
[21:20] <koanen_t> williams: kde is gay
[21:20] <williams> what?
[21:20] <kjele> vlt: That is bad then. :(
[21:21] <nexsja> 'ello. I have a weird problem. I'm connecting to one server using putty and an rsa key. I try to connect to that same server but only using a password - nothing happens. When i change the password and try again - nothing happens again. I just get Access denied. Why?
[21:21] <koanen_t> williams: Its shitcrap and horMoSlyr My Friend
[21:21] <Dev^Null> anyone know what package to find inb and outb on ubuntu 9.10
[21:21] <eipi-1_> anyone else got the problem that gnome-panel is visible while impress presentation mode?
[21:21] <erUSUL> !find outb
[21:21] <joebodo> timyeung, i remember seeing this discussed before, if you cant get an answer here - you might want to google: mount read only usb drive
[21:21] <williams> #ubuntu spanish
[21:21] <koanen_t> Jaevvla Shiiit asso
[21:21] <williams> please
[21:21] <erUSUL> !es | williams
[21:21] <neurochrome> Condoulo, ooops I'd locked down the panel! haha!  I can drag mine about now
[21:21] <vlt> kjele: And I want to make sure it works between two machines even behind NAT routers. This is hard to test locally ;-)
[21:22] <mohjak> joebodo I have just started vuze from the terminal it gave me a warning that swt is not found do you know about this?
[21:22] <williams> join #ubuntu-es
[21:22] <ded> What's an easy way to upgrade automatically giving the default answer to all questions?
[21:22] <neurochrome> Condoulo so can you drag it around on the first monitor but not the second?
[21:22] <raymondjtoth> how you do restart x in ubuntu 10.04
[21:22] <raymondjtoth> ?
[21:22] <joebodo> mohjak, swt is what it uses for the UI components
[21:22] <timyeung> joebodo, thanks for the keywords....
[21:23] <nexsja> umm.. anybody? :/
[21:23] <caseyw> Is there a better way to downgrade PHP to 5.2 in 10.4 than: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9080474&postcount=7
[21:23] <erUSUL> !dontzap | raymondjtoth
[21:23] <timyeung> hey I have a 250gb external harddrive. every time I plug it in and try to put files onto it it tells me it is read-only. So I am trying to reformat it using gparted but it keeps telling me I am getting some error. Any Ideas/??
[21:23] <wng-> is there a way to edit the GNOME menus from the command line?
[21:23] <g0tcha> hmm how can i install kernel modules?
[21:23] <ded> raymondjtoth: logout and back in?
[21:23] <kjele> vlt: Without portforward you will not get anything
[21:23] <neurochrome> raymondjtoth, ctrl+alt+sys-req-k
[21:23] <mohjak> joebodo should I reinstall java in order to solve this problem?
[21:23] <joebodo> mohjak, how did you install vuze initially ?
[21:23] <nimrod10> !ti
[21:23] <nimrod10> !ati
[21:24] <jrib> wng-: sure, are you the masochistic type?
[21:24] <neurochrome> raymondjtoth, ctrl + alt + sysreq + K
[21:24] <mohjak> joebodo I installed it using synaptic I guess
[21:24] <williams> Please, does anyone can tell me how to enter the Ubuntu IRC channel in Spanish?
[21:24] <DavidTruby> i have a problem with sound on ubuntu 10.04, the only sounds that work are the system sounds and rhythmbox, I cannot get any other application (media players, web browsers, etc.) to produce any sounds at all
[21:24] <joebodo> mohjak, then i believe the command is apt-get install --reinstall vuze
[21:24] <jrib> williams: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:24] <aaroncampbell_> I'm trying to share files back and forth between Ubuntu and Windows 7.  I can see my Ubuntu files from the Windows 7 machine, but not the other way around.
[21:24] <erUSUL> g0tcha: many come already installed by default in the kernel package
[21:24] <joebodo> mohjak, you can also try java --version to see if that is installed correctly
[21:24] <handjob> What is the command to activate gui tool that lets You switch between alsa and pulse?
[21:25] <raymondjtoth> deb im trying to reconfig since didnt have a xorg.conf, azm gave me site how to do it but tell me in one comand after i hit alt+f1
[21:25] <aaroncampbell_> However, my other Windows machines (XP & Vista) can see the files on the Windows 7 machine fine
[21:25] <g0tcha> erUSUL, i want to uninstall vmware kernel moduls
[21:25] <raymondjtoth> to do a restart x
[21:25] <raymondjtoth> in comand line
[21:25] <neurochrome> handjob, gstreamer-properties
[21:25] <ded> wng-: Look at man gconftool
[21:25] <ded> wng-: I haven't used it but I've been meaning to.
[21:25] <raymondjtoth> neurochrome,  im doing it in command window how i run the restar x
[21:25] <jrib> wng-: that was an honest question.  There's no nice tool that I know of.  You'd have to read the freedesktop specs on menus and .desktop files I assume.  Peruse alacarte's source too if you want
[21:26] <handjob> neurochrome: Thank You.
[21:26] <jrib> ded: menus aren't stored in gconf
[21:26] <handjob> Bye.
[21:26] <adeola04052> hello
[21:26] <neurochrome> raymondjtoth, sudo pkill X
[21:26] <tripelb> Question re gparted. I have a disk that's NTFS and it has over a Gig of stuff on it (I added more to make sure it showed) on a 40G disk. I cant see anything "colored" in Gparted and there is a dash -- in both Used and Unused. There is also a brown triangle with  ! in it by the /dev/sdb1  --- What's going on? Why cant gparted see it?  ((I'm trying to learn how to repartition a drive that's had windows xp installed on it, as a dry run.))
[21:26] <timyeung> hey I have a 250gb external harddrive. every time I plug it in and try to put files onto it it tells me it is read-only. So I am trying to reformat it using gparted but it keeps telling me I am getting some error. Any Ideas/??
[21:27] <erUSUL> !requirements
[21:27] <kjele> wng-: alacarte
[21:27] <ded> jrib: ok, noted.
[21:28] <adeola04052> I have an HP Desktop with no sound in Lucid. lspci registers audio as : 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[21:28] <neurochrome> timyeung, and the error is?
[21:29] <ForgeAus> is software centre based off packagekit?
[21:29] <Condoulo> I changed a setting in CCC, and now I'm able to drag a panel over to my second monitor! :D
[21:29] <kjele> wng-: But if you really want to edit from the command line it is a bit of hard. You need to edit some files in ~/.local/share/application and ~/.config
[21:29] <Condoulo> Although, I just wish they would make it easy and painless like they do in XFCE.
[21:29] <timyeung> neurochrome, i didn't unmount. I will try again
[21:29] <neurochrome> tripelb, have you installed the ntfsprogs package?
[21:30] <wng-> kjele: thanks
[21:30]  * ForgeAus <3 wubi!
[21:30] <neurochrome> gotta go folks, have fun
[21:31] <kjele> adeola04052: and aplay -l ?
[21:31] <adeola04052> just a sec
[21:31] <a3ist> Hmm...anyone know if I have an unmounted ntfs hd with 2 partitions, is it possible to use gparted or something to move the MBR on it from one of the partitions to the other?  The system I'm running on right now is on a different HD.
[21:31] <enav> hi all
[21:31] <bendsinister> NiskServ identify 12345
[21:31] <adeola04052> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[21:31] <adeola04052> ALSA lib conf.c:1645:(snd_config_load1) _toplevel_:12:0:Unexpected char
[21:31] <adeola04052> ALSA lib conf.c:3425:(snd_config_hook_load) /etc/asound.conf may be old or corrupted: consider to remove or fix it
[21:31] <adeola04052> ALSA lib conf.c:3286:(snd_config_hooks_call) function snd_config_hook_load returned error: Invalid argument
[21:31] <adeola04052> ALSA lib conf.c:3671:(snd_config_update_r) hooks failed, removing configuration
[21:31] <FloodBot3> adeola04052: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <adeola04052> aplay: device_list:232: control open (0): Invalid argumen
[21:32] <kjele> adeola04052: listen to bot :)
[21:32] <BeWolF> !paste
[21:32] <adeola04052> kjele:
[21:32] <adeola04052> kjele:ok
[21:32] <llutz> a3ist: "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX2 of=sdX2-bootrecord count=1" "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX1 of=sdX1-bootrecord count=1" to read the bootrecords, use dd too to write them back and ruin your data :)
[21:33] <enli> Hi, I need more control over Gnomes power manager preferences, I want to define my own "critically low" battery value. How do I do that? Other than comping the whole thing again?
[21:34] <tull> i have the well known problem of memory usage of kernel 2.6.32-21, also in kernel 2.6.32-22
[21:34] <a3ist> llutz, will writing the mbr to the second partition ruin the data on the second drive?
[21:34] <llutz> a3ist: it shouldn't
[21:34] <CrazyTux[w]> Hey guys -- I can not recall how to setup a "new panel" for my second screen..... like the taskbar on the normal one but one for the second screen so items on that screen remain on that taskbar
[21:34] <a3ist> mind if I PM you?
[21:34] <Jordan_U> a3ist: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[21:35] <llutz> a3ist: but it's always dangerous to work with partitions and parts of it. pls no pm
[21:35] <enli> like on windows machines, you can define what battery % is considered as critical and low.. can we do that in gnome/ubuntu?
[21:35] <adeola04052> kjele: i have pasted it
[21:35] <Dev^Null> anyone know what package to find inb and outb on ubuntu 9.10
[21:35] <kjele> adeola04052: Did you upgrade to lucid or is it upgraded? Need the link to it
[21:36] <adeola04052> kjele: didn't upgrade
[21:36] <xorwhy> With AMD64, windows drag smoothly. With i386, they drag choppy.
[21:36] <adeola04052> here is the pastebin link
[21:36] <adeola04052> http://paste.ubuntu.com/435165/
[21:37] <a3ist> Jordan_U, llutz, what I have is an SATA drive on my computer with two partitions in NTFS format.  Partition one covers most of the drive and contains stored files, but also has the MBR.  Partition two has a windows install on it that I'd like to manage via Virtualbox.  If I create a vmdk for just partition two, it doesn't get the MBR and can't boot, but I don't want to add partition one to the vmdk because i use it often from linux.
[21:37] <kjele> adeola04052: This does not looks like the one you paste earlier
[21:37] <adeola04052> there was an error
[21:38] <kjele> adeola04052: aplay says it is fine
[21:38] <adeola04052> i created a asound.conf file that i got online from a forum then removed it
[21:38] <adeola04052> i thought so
[21:39] <llutz> a3ist: i'm not sure if that works, but try "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX1 of=/dev/sdX2 count=1"  after making a backup copy of both bootrecords to another disk
[21:39] <kjele> adeola04052: Why did you have to create a asound.conf file?
[21:40] <erUSUL> llutz: count without a bs ?
[21:40] <llutz> a3ist: and btw: the MBR always is sdX, not on a partition
[21:40] <SolarisBoy> has anyone else had an issue where the indicator applet in my gnome-panel does not open the applications in the menu? it produces a pid but the application is not visible on any desktop (with and without compiz and desktop effects enabled)
[21:40] <llutz> erUSUL: bs=512 default
[21:40] <adeola04052> kjele: i was trying to see from this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1450964&page=2
[21:40] <erUSUL> llutz: ok
[21:41] <soreau> SolarisBoy: No one else has had issues with your gnome-panel, no
[21:41] <dlublink> Hey, I am having troubled with saslauthd. Postfix says connection refused, but testsaslauth works perfectly. What am I missing ?
[21:41] <SolarisBoy> soreau: ?
[21:41] <soreau> SolarisBoy: Do you have expland enabled in gnome-panel prefs?
[21:41] <soreau> Expand*
[21:41] <raymondjtoth> azm
[21:42] <SolarisBoy> yes
[21:42] <kjele> adeola04052: I see
[21:43] <SolarisBoy> and just another addition,, one time,,, one odd time where i didn't really change anything,, the indicator-applet worked it opened pidgin,gwibber,evolution absolutely fine,,
[21:43] <bendsinister> NickServ identify 12345
[21:43] <aliciapg> does anyone know how to remove all tags from an mp3? rhythmbox won't let me overwrite one of the tags
[21:43] <Wavesonics> hi, i need a .cvspass file, how can i generate one?>
[21:43] <ForgeAus> does ubuntu-desktop install gnome-do?
[21:43] <compaq> my video card has two connectors, and regular video, and then this new style
[21:44] <SolarisBoy> i guess you could dpks -S gnome-do and find out
[21:44] <kjele> ForgeAus: no
[21:44] <compaq> is that dvi?
[21:44] <ForgeAus> I'm using kubuntu and I couldn't find it in the list of packages its adding
[21:44] <adeola04052> something like this fixed my installation of 9.10 but i'm not too sure it was exactly this - http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1374025 didnt work for Lucid tho
[21:44] <ForgeAus> kjele interesting... its one of the best parts!
[21:44] <LuisJa> Hello people can you help me make my sda3 partition than contains my home the sda1 home
[21:44] <SolarisBoy> soreau: should i have expand off?
[21:44] <ForgeAus> of course a little too reliant on mono but...
[21:44] <perhamlinux> I'm getting more than 50% of cpu usage and hard disk activity on a dualcore laptop, starting at 1:00 am. after a little search I found out that a package named "tiger" is checking for some security stuff everyday at that time. now, I don't need any program to use that much of resources on my laptop. can I safely remove the tiger package? and if I remove it, does these checks stop from happening?
[21:44] <djkrikke> Hi, how do I change my default output audio card on ubuntu?
[21:44] <kjele> ForgeAus: It is not in main so not really supported
[21:45] <koanen_t> ForgeAus: Avoid applications made by Microsoft/Morons like "GNOME-DO", BEAGLE or some GAY shit like that. Fuckin moorons.
[21:45] <SolarisBoy> perhamlinux: yes
[21:45] <ForgeAus> kjele I guess its for the best...
[21:45] <dxtr> Okay, so how do I add custom fonts in 10.04?
[21:45] <SolarisBoy> tigecron runs periodically and the full job is intensive depending on resources
[21:45] <dxtr> There's no xorg.conf :P
[21:45] <ForgeAus> hehe koanen gnome-do is not so much microsoft morons as Apple its a direct Quicksilver ripoff!
[21:45] <SolarisBoy> if you remove and purge the package that should remove the cron entries and files and it shouldn't run
[21:45] <ForgeAus> (but it was programmed using the mono framework)
[21:45] <perhamlinux> SolarisBoy: is it safe to remove them? it does not break anyhting, right?
[21:45] <sroecker> hi, my usb camera doesn't mount anymore. i only get "usb connected", but no storage device. anyone know how to debug this?
[21:46] <LuisJa> Hello people can you help me make my sda3 partition than contains my home the sda1 home
[21:46] <LuisJa> Hello people can you help me make my sda3 partition than contains my home the sda1 home
[21:46] <norlr> aliciapg: mplayer -dumpaudio file.mp3    test new file stream.dump    rename to file.mp3 if satisfied
[21:46] <perhamlinux> SolarisBoy: great , thanks for the help
[21:46] <LuisJa> sorry for double
[21:46] <FloodBot3> LuisJa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:46] <SolarisBoy> perhamlinux: tiger is a security auditing program afaik it isn't installed by default so i dont think you will have an issue with removing it
[21:46] <ForgeAus> gnome itself uses some mono-cli chunks
[21:46] <ForgeAus> (KDE doesn't)
[21:46] <compaq> my video card has two connectors, I think the new one is called dvi.  Its better right?  How do you use it?
[21:47] <Wavesonics> anyone know anything about .cvspass files?
[21:47] <ForgeAus> yes compaq sounds right
[21:47] <ForgeAus> DVI for digital video in
[21:47] <vlt> kjele: Ok, we have two Ubuntu machines here, pidgin on both, both connected to gmail. But we don't see anything.
[21:47] <ForgeAus> (you plug a digital device (say blu-ray player) into it...
[21:48] <SolarisBoy> so anyplace i can go for help on my indicator-applet issues? i've been on launchpad and the issues are so random i can hardly find mine,, and the couple of sites which exist don
[21:48] <compaq> ForgeAus, did you ever use that connector?  When I plug it in to the monitor it doesn't show
[21:48] <lyrae> Hi. In my toolbars, the address bar is under all the toolbar icons. how can i put it next to the icons?
[21:48] <ForgeAus> thats because its VIDEO IN not video out
[21:48] <compaq> ForgeAus, oh, its not for the monitor
[21:48] <ForgeAus> if it was out it would show on the monitor
[21:48] <LuisJa> Hello people can you help me make my sda3 partition than contains my home the sda1 home, i just make a fresh install and i dont remember the steps
[21:48] <aliciapg> thanks norlr :D
[21:49] <ForgeAus> if your monitor was supplying it with digital video then yes it would be working :)
[21:49] <vlt> kjele: I don't even see any IP packets (except the XMPP traffic) leaving my network card. Where to look first?
[21:49] <LuisJa> just made}
[21:49] <compaq> why would I want to plug in a blue ray to it?
[21:49] <SolarisBoy> +t provide much info... also the logs under  ~/.cache/indicator* really dont say much for anything,, i've even run dbus-monitor while im opening the applciation from indicator applet,, the messages flowing in session show the apps should be open,, but i have no idea where they go or why that happends,,,
[21:49] <llutz> !home > LuisJa
[21:49] <ForgeAus> compaq it was just an example
[21:49] <ForgeAus> (one possible digital video data source)
[21:49] <norlr> aliciapg: np
[21:49] <g0tcha> is 10.04 not good as a guestos?
[21:50] <g0tcha> its very slow
[21:50] <compaq> ForgeAus, I know, I was just wondering what it is for, do you have some more examples.  Who uses it, not too many people eh?
[21:50] <g0tcha> even after installing vmware tools
[21:50] <ForgeAus> compaq not sure what its main use is
[21:50] <kiru> hi all
[21:50] <ubd> hello!
[21:50] <ubd> is it possible to install ubuntu from usbdisk?
[21:50] <compaq> ForgeAus, I was thinking that it would make a better picture, like it was a new way to connect to the monitor
[21:51] <kiru> can anyone help me with a networking problem in ubuntu?
[21:51] <compaq> Kiru, you gotta ask first, then if we can we will reply
[21:51] <kiru> ok
[21:52] <compaq> kiru, I will try go for it, ask
[21:52] <kiru> I installed a 3 g modem but my wired network doesn't work anymore
[21:52] <edmont_> hi
[21:53] <compaq> kiru, huh a 3 g modem.  thats a tough one, never heard of it.  But your wired should still work
[21:53] <kiru> I'll explain what I did
[21:54] <dementor> hy can i install cpanel on my ubuntu server
[21:54] <edmont_> i just upgraded to 10.04, keeping the old home folder, and now the theme is not the default one, probably because it tries to load Human, as in my gnome conf file. what can I do to set the new default theme? thanks
[21:54] <compaq> ForgeAus, do you know by chance, if there is a device that I could connect my tv cable to dvi, and into my video card, and then watch tv on my monitor?
[21:54] <rosco_y> Has anyone had any luck using MS Web Developer Express in an XP Machine in virtualbox?
[21:54] <ubd> is it possible to install ubuntu from usbstick, i have the iso but i dont have any cd or dvd - i am asking this for the latest ver. of ubuntu
[21:54] <kiru> I opened a console
[21:54] <kiru> gksu gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/ZTE.rules
[21:55] <git__> has there been review on Ubuntu 10.04?
[21:55] <edmont_> well, i did not upgrade, just made a new installation keeping the old /home
[21:55] <kiru> and placed this command:
[21:55] <kiru>  SYSFS{idVendor}=="19d2", SYSFS{idProduct}=="2000", RUN+="/usr/bin/eject %k", OPTIONS+="last_rule"
[21:55] <rosco_y> git__: I've seen a number of reviews
[21:55] <kiru> this switched the system in modem mode
[21:55] <DavidTruby> ubd: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:55] <git__> rosco_y, can you share a few links/link
[21:56] <rosco_y> git__: one second please ....
[21:56] <git__> appreciate you taking the effort seek the link/s, rosco_y
[21:56] <ubd> ty very much DavidTruby, i hope itll work
[21:56] <DavidTruby> np
[21:56] <caseyw> Anyone on 10.4 who has to work in PHP 5.2?
[21:57] <Vital{ReBorN}> Couldn't figure out how diald worked
[21:57] <Dev^Null> anyone know what package to find inb and outb on ubuntu 9.10
[21:58] <rosco_y> git__: here's one I just noticed in Linux Magazine:  https://mail.google.com/mail/?hl=en&shva=1#search/label%3Alinux-magazine+ubuntu+10.04/128a6a4b51fefc33
[21:58] <ubd> btw is a DAILY build, the updated version of the release or its something else like beta?
[21:58] <MACscr_lappy> envolution or thunderbird?
[21:58] <Dev^Null> I am running ubuntu desktop 9.10 and I need to write to an IO port so I need outb util but I cannot find it anywhere
[21:58] <rosco_y> git__: scroll down to pcm_man
[21:58] <norlr> Dev^Null: packages usually contain programs callable from the command line, not single cpu instructions
[21:58] <rosco_y> (in the forums)
[21:59] <velociostrich> does anyone know how I can use a "read -p" statement inside a "while read line" loop? I'm writing a bash script and it doesn't work
[21:59] <Dev^Null> norlr, I used it on cent os from command line on friday. now I need it on my dev machine that runs ubuntu
[21:59] <velociostrich> I don't see the read prompt
[21:59] <Dev^Null> it is a command.
[21:59] <justinh> got a little problem on a new lucid install here - I've installed xfsprogs but can't seem to mount xfs partitions.  e.g. mount -t xfs /dev/sdd mountpoint reports unknown fs type
[21:59] <Dev^Null> do cpu instructions have man pages.
[22:00] <norlr> Dev^Null: a small wrapper then. you should be able to port it over from cent os
[22:00] <Dev^Null> http://linux.die.net/man/2/outb
[22:00] <erUSUL> velociostrich: /join #bash
[22:00] <velociostrich> erUSUL: will do
[22:00] <slajfo> hi all :)
[22:00] <emma> Are any of you experts when it comes to putting Ubuntu on a mac?
[22:00] <erkan^> !gdesklets
[22:00] <xixor> Howdy everyone.  I only have remote access to my machine right now, and need to boot it to windows from ubuntu, which it is currently running.  I currently have GRUB_DEFAULT=saved, and would like to set GRUB_DEFAULT=X to the windows partition.  How do I determine the number to use that corresponds to the windows partition?
[22:00] <acicula> Dev^Null, no, but maybe there is some info in the nasm pages
[22:01] <jgcampbell300> Hello, I am trying to find free jukebox software i can use on ubuntu 10 something that will work with touch screen ... any ideas
[22:01] <ubd> is a daily build an updated version of the current release or its something else like beta?
[22:01] <emma> I'm not sure the author of that factoid was using the word symbiotic correctly.
[22:01] <erkan^> !AVN
[22:01] <erkan^> uh
[22:01] <erkan^> !avant
[22:01] <adi1> hi all. how to make my wireless connection connect automatically on start up ubuntu 10.04 on dell laptop. now i need to write down avery time the wpa pass.
[22:01] <adi1> thanks
[22:01] <ubd> erkan daily build nedir kardesim
[22:02] <acicula> !en
[22:02] <slajfo> what´s go in here?
[22:02] <thenick24356> hi grub says "" try (hd0,2-3) extended or non ms skip ""
[22:02] <adi1> i mistakenly deleted the kye ring from startup apps
[22:02] <Oer> Dev^Null, spew http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/spew.1.html or epoll http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man7/epoll.7.html
[22:02] <adi1> that app used to do that for me once
[22:02] <thenick24356> do anyone has some suggestions about what we can do ?
[22:03] <ne7work> how to redirect ports with iptable?
[22:03] <hmw> how can I change the UUID of my SWAP partition?
[22:03] <ne7work> please someone help me :)
[22:03] <Cork[home]> anyone know what mught cause gnome-system-monitor to go to40-70% cpu + causing Xorg to go whild and take 70-86%? (10.04)
[22:03] <erUSUL> !iptables > ne7work
[22:03] <Cork[home]> mught==might
[22:03] <tripelb> neurochrome, no I have not installed the ntfsprogs package. It was not mentioned to me anywhere.
[22:03] <thedude42> ne7work, with the REDIRECT target....?
[22:03] <thenick24356> redirect ips with iptables ?
[22:03] <thenick24356> i dont know may be you need a router ?
[22:03] <thenick24356> or a virtual router :P
[22:03] <slajfo> exit
[22:04] <Cork[home]> it only happens when i plug the power cord into my laptop, and it started last friday
[22:04] <thenick24356> thats the technical explanation
[22:04] <thedude42> thenick24356, he said ports, not ips
[22:04] <tripelb> Question re gparted. I have a disk that's NTFS and it has over a Gig of stuff on it (I added more to make sure it showed) on a 40G disk. I cant see anything "colored" in Gparted and there is a dash -- in both Used and Unused. There is also a brown triangle with  ! in it by the /dev/sdb1  --- What's going on? Why cant gparted see it?  ((I'm trying to learn how to repartition a drive that's had windows xp installed on it, as a dry run.))  ---> neurochrome has qui
[22:04] <tripelb> t can someon else answer please?, no I have not installed the ntfsprogs package. It was not mentioned to me anywhere.
[22:04] <AbuBadr> hi there
[22:05] <AbuBadr> how to get in root directory in the terminal?
[22:05] <thenick24356> hehe ok . anyway some think can be used . .. may be
[22:05] <g0tcha> so anyone know why 10.04 is running slow as a guest os?
[22:05] <tripelb> the gparted tutorial shows it understanding a windows drive
[22:05] <thenick24356> ie create a software reads at spesific ip .
[22:05] <thenick24356> and send it to your desired ip .
[22:05] <thenick24356> and port.
[22:05] <thenick24356> so the work is done.
[22:05] <thenick24356> in theory :P
[22:06] <FailPowah> it seems nautilius cant find correct harddrive/partition size for me, it says i have 128 TB
[22:06] <thedude42> thenick24356, iptables does that already via the REDIRECT taget in the NAT table
[22:06] <hmw> ne7work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/435178/
[22:06] <AbuBadr> how to install .run files in terminal?
[22:07] <ssn> is keyserver.ubuntu.com down again?
[22:07] <thenick24356>  128 TB is far more for a random user imao :P
[22:07] <erUSUL> so it seems
[22:07] <thedude42> AbuBadr, to run any file names <filename> in your current direction, execute the command './<filename>'
[22:07] <FailPowah> thenick24356: my / is only 20 GB when i partitioned it up
[22:08] <thedude42> AbuBadr, if the file is not marked as executable, you will need to run 'chmod 755 <filename'
[22:09] <AbuBadr> thedude42, the file is in root directory   how to get in there?
[22:09] <minibeardeath> anybody here have any expierence with connecting a windows and an ubuntu computer directly via ethernet?
[22:09] <norlr> AbuBadr: better yet, 'chmod 755 >filename'
[22:09] <hmw> how can I change the UUID of my swap partition? tune2fs wont let me and some forum entries claim, there was none, still my Ubuntu is upset about a _wrong_ uuid
[22:10] <eboyjr> Hello. I lost the password to my wireless network on my Windows computer, but I can access it fine on my Ubuntu computer. Is there a way to find out the password that Ubuntu uses to connect to the network?
[22:10] <tripelb> Question re gparted. I have a disk that's NTFS and it has over a Gig of stuff on it (I added more to make sure it showed) on a 40G disk. I cant see anything "colored" in Gparted and there is a dash -- in both Used and Unused. There is also a brown triangle with  ! in it by the /dev/sdb1  --- What's going on? Why cant gparted see it?  ((I'm trying to learn how to repartition a drive that's had windows xp installed on it, as a dry run.))
[22:10] <erUSUL> hmw: do not change the partition uuid; update /etc/fstab to match it
[22:10] <fredrik_> just installed 10.04. I have played with the me menu. In all screenshots I have seen  there is a statusrow but not in my menu. I have added Facebook, MSN and ICQ.
[22:11] <hmw> erUSUL: it is in my partition image, i would like to find out how to change the UUID
[22:11] <erUSUL> hmw: i.e. do not change rality to match conf files but do the other way around :)
[22:11] <AbuBadr>  how to access root dir from terminal?
[22:11] <hmw> gah... i dont want to burn another image cd just because of a uuid
[22:11] <zanzibar82> hi! how do I install xbox controller on karmic? I can not install jscalibrator :(
[22:11] <erUSUL> hmw: you can not change it afaics. it is generated (libuuid source has the details)
[22:11] <hmw> oh. thanks for the pointer!
[22:11] <alket> AbuBadr: Open terminal and write: gksudo nautilus
[22:11] <alket> AbuBadr: And navigate to that folder
[22:12] <ForgeAus> abu try cd /
[22:12] <jrib> AbuBadr: why do you want to?
[22:12] <tripelb> eboyjr, hope this helps.  How to: Reset your Windows password using an Ubuntu LiveCD
[22:12] <tripelb> Apr 9, 2010 ... It's easy, you only need an Ubuntu LiveCD and a program called chntpw. ... and there's an easy way to reveal this password in Firefox: ...
[22:12] <tripelb> georgetasioulis.com/how-to-change-or-reset-your-windows-password-using-an-ubuntu-livecd/
[22:13] <mattgyver> fredrik_, was this a fresh install or an upgrade?
[22:13] <ForgeAus> (to modify it you need to use sudo and enter a password but only do this if you know what your doing,)
[22:13] <AbuBadr> i downloaded ati driver but it is in  .run format
[22:13] <jrib> !ati | AbuBadr
[22:13] <zanzibar82> hi! how do I install xbox controller on karmic? I can not install jscalibrator :(
[22:13] <zanzibar82> !joystick
[22:13] <ForgeAus> jrib I think thats out of date
[22:14] <daveWilky> can anyone tell me why i can recieve emails in evolution ,but i cannot send them to my contacts or to myself?
[22:14] <eboyjr> tripelb: Sorry I was referring to the wireless network/router access password, not the login password but thanks!
[22:14] <tripelb> Has anyone used gparted on a Windows disk? It cant show what is used, has a ! in a warning triangle
[22:14] <ForgeAus> try using the gnome version of jockey (jockey-gtk I think)
[22:14] <jrib> ForgeAus: why?
[22:14] <erUSUL> daveWilky: your smtp server is missconfigured ?
[22:14] <SwedeMike> daveWilky: outgoing mail server is wrong somehow. Look for settings for sending email in there.
[22:14] <ForgeAus> that can install your ATI or NVidia restricted drives
[22:14] <ForgeAus> grr drivers
[22:14] <ForgeAus> (keyboard dropping keys)
[22:14] <ForgeAus> jrib jockey is far simpler for one
[22:14] <erUSUL> tripelb: probably you have to check it in windows (unclean shutdown)
[22:14] <tripelb> eboyjr there is a program for macintosh that will reveal the ***** field.
[22:14] <ibqn> can someone explain me, why cat 7proc/mounts shows that /dev/shm is mounted even it is not shown in /etc/fstab?
[22:15] <ForgeAus> and for 2 I don't think anything after karma is mentioned on that site last I looked
[22:15] <jrib> ForgeAus: well doesn't that page recommend jockey?
[22:15] <daveWilky> i`ve tried following all the setting from 2 websites and still no luck.
[22:15] <erUSUL> ibqn: some other script mounted it during init
[22:15] <ForgeAus> jrib, not sure I dont think it does
[22:15] <twoey> hello world
[22:15] <jrib> ForgeAus: it does
[22:15] <LzrdKing> jockey for her?
[22:15] <ForgeAus> oh ok
[22:15] <ForgeAus> jrib thats kewl then
[22:15] <ibqn> erUSUL, and which one?
[22:16] <eboyjr> tripelb: I figured it out. If you go to the connection settings, you can click on the Wireless Security Tab and hit Show Password
[22:16] <ibqn> erUSUL, or how to find it out?
[22:16] <tripelb> erusul - it was a failed win installation (wrong secret codes) But ubuntu knows how much is on the drive, why not gparted?
[22:16] <fredrik_> _mattgyver: A fresh install (but I didn't format /home, just removed most of the hidden folders)
[22:16] <erUSUL> ibqn: i dunno. « grep -R "/dev/shm" /etc/ » ?
[22:16] <cybrocop> Hi all. How can I build packages from source. Is there a manual somewhere?
[22:16] <jrib> !source > cybrocop
[22:16] <tripelb> eboyjr, thanks for telling me the solution.
[22:16] <AbuBadr> i got in terminal    bash: cd: root: Permission denied
[22:16] <jrib> !packaging > cybrocop
[22:16] <erUSUL> tripelb: gparted is more carefull ? try installing ntfsprgos package
[22:16] <eboyjr> tripelb: No problem
[22:16] <jrib> AbuBadr: why are you ignoring what we tell you?
[22:16] <minibeardeath> how do i transfer files over ethernet from windows to ubuntu?
[22:17] <AbuBadr> i'm not ignoring
[22:17] <rolsworth> i get better sound running a hackintosh than ubuntu. why are the sound drivers still so bad? I am using the ALC889A and I also have a Creative x-fi
[22:17] <ForgeAus> Abu forget that for now try runinng jockey-gtk
[22:17] <jrib> AbuBadr: use Hardware Drivers in your System -> Administration menu
[22:18] <twoey> has anyone installed LibertyBasic for linux for their system?
[22:18] <eipi-1_> anyone else got the problem that gnome-panel is visible while impress presentation mode?
[22:18] <ForgeAus> twoey I hope not! lol
[22:18] <AbuBadr> jrib, i tried that but i want the last updated driver from ati website
[22:19] <daveWilky> if you had to choose between evolution or thunderbird for your emails, which would you pick?
[22:19] <cybrocop> Thanks jrib
[22:19] <BitEncrypt> T-bird
[22:19] <zanzibar82> thunderbird
[22:19] <twoey> reason I ask is because I'm trying to get the feel of programming but only played around with LibertyB
[22:19] <jrib> AbuBadr: why?
[22:19]  * ForgeAus hugs his lightning extension
[22:20] <erUSUL> !samba | minibeardeath
[22:20] <lyrae> How can i fix this: http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5948/90748967.png ? it should be -really- simple. like a matter of drag and drop. but its not
[22:20] <tripelb> erUSUL, thanks. I look into the ntfsprogs
[22:20] <AbuBadr> jrib, what why!!?
[22:20] <ForgeAus> hmm how about serving windows shares?
[22:20] <daveWilky> it seems t-bird gets the vote, i`m new to ununtu so all help is welcome ...ty
[22:20] <minibeardeath> okay. i will try that. the only reason i asked is that yesterday it worked perfectly without samba installed and suddenly it doesnt
[22:20] <chrisbing> hi leute
[22:21] <jrib> AbuBadr: why do you not want to use the version in the repository?
[22:21] <BitEncrypt> Opera Unite.......Host your own webpage
[22:22] <mickster04> oh if i install /boot to a usb pendrive will that render the harddrive unbootable without the pen drive?
[22:22] <azm> minibeardeath, Samba must be overkill for just connecting pcs this way
[22:22] <minibeardeath> what do you mean by serving windows shares forgeaus?
[22:22] <minibeardeath> i agree azm
[22:22] <mickster04> brb
[22:22] <Daekdroom> mickster04, if you don't have /boot on your HD, yes.
[22:22] <ForgeAus> mickster it can
[22:22] <ForgeAus> doesn't have to
[22:22] <Cam> Hahahahaha
[22:22] <Cam> So many floodbots.
[22:23] <ForgeAus> if there is also a /boot on the harddrive for example
[22:23] <azm> minibeardeath, Would not be better to setup local ip and mask in win box like 192.168.1.1 and same in linux and open eg gnome comander for tranfering files?
[22:23] <bootstrap> As of 10.04 I am no longer able to play .m4a in songbird
[22:24] <minibeardeath> thats exactly what i had going last night, but it was automaticly done, and i cant figure out how to do it automamticly now
[22:24] <dsl1194> I cant get support at Damn small linux irc maybe somone here can say how i can install java on DSL?
[22:25] <RedXIII> I have several audio tracks (wav) and I want to normalize all their peak volumes to another audio track
[22:25] <RedXIII> Is there a program that allows this?
[22:25] <Kikela> Hi, somebody use Rhythmbox on Lucid Lynx to dowload and manage podcast ?
[22:25] <mickster04> back, ok, so is there anyway of getting the file table onto the usb so the drive is unreadable without it?
[22:25] <erUSUL> !info normalize
[22:26] <mtrawally> muhammed
[22:26] <ZykoticK9> !info normalize-audio
[22:26] <latenite> How do I use gconftool-2 in a script so I can turn of "terminal close waring"?
[22:26] <dxtr> I'm STILL having problem installing fonts in 10.04
[22:26] <dxtr> artwiz to be more specific
[22:26] <dxtr> dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig or fontconfig-config doesn't give me a configuration screen
[22:26] <jrib> latenite: do you know how to answer your question if you delete the "in a script" part?
[22:26] <dxtr> and fc-cache deosn't even cache the fonts even though I've put them in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc
[22:28] <latenite> jrib, no. my problem is that gconftool-2 does not react on tabcompletion when I tyoe /apps<TAB>
[22:28] <jrib> latenite: yeah... type it out, don't rely on tab
[22:29] <zanzibar82> hello! what can I use on karmic instead of jscalibrator?
[22:29] <Noble_> I have added my user to the group "power" using gpasswd, how come I cant use poweroff etc?
[22:29] <latenite> jrib, oh ok. And how do I find out what to change? is true and false as string or 0 | 1 and how would my cammand look like?
[22:30] <onetinsoldier> dxtr: i don't know if this will help or not, but you're welcome to check it out --> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Fonts/Font-Manager-10798.shtml
[22:30] <LinuxGuy2009> I'm having big issues with doing Screencasts using GtkRecordMyDesktop. Set it up to record video and audio and it records and plays just fine as an OGV file afterwards. Problem is nothing wants to transcode it into MP4 so its YouTube compatible. Any suggestions?
[22:30] <LinuxGuy2009> All the apps I have tried see the audio just fine but have no video.
[22:30] <jrib> latenite: well choose the right type (bool in your example) first.  Look at existing keys of type bool to see what the are set to.  I believe it's True and False
[22:31] <latenite> jrib, /apps/gnome-terminal/global/confirm_window_close is the path. but what esle?
[22:31] <jrib> latenite: you need to give the type and what you want to set it as
[22:31] <onetinsoldier> LinuxGuy2009: you might try ffmeg/winff
[22:31] <alktors> Hello, I'm using skype on ubuntu 10.04 and I have a question. It seems like a skype bot has contacted me and advertised a link and by mistake I clicked it. Will I be fine?
[22:31] <LinuxGuy2009> onetinsoldier: Ok Ill give that one a go too. Thanks
[22:32] <nothingnow> alktors yes you will be fine dont worry about it just ignore the bot and go on with life
[22:32] <onetinsoldier> LinuxGuy2009: you're welcome. good luck
[22:32] <mickster04> hey is there anyway to specify the file table location? when formatting a drive...
[22:32] <latenite> jrib, "gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/gnome-terminal/global/confirm_window_close False" did the trick. thx for your help :)
[22:32] <jrib> latenite: usually False would precede the path, but ok
[22:33] <[tla]> Hi.  I have installed Lucid server (64 bit) and have decided I want a window system.  The server has an nVidia card.  I fancy trying compiz for the window manager.  what packages do i need to install?  Thanks.
[22:33] <alktors> nothingnow,  I think it might be a virus or something, clicked the link and I'm asked to join a social network....didn't joined it:P
[22:33] <linuxdc> hello
[22:33] <dsl1194> I cant get support at Damn small linux irc maybe somone here can say how i can install java on DSL?
[22:33] <ZykoticK9> LinuxGuy2009, to get screencast video only (in avi format) you could use something like "fmpeg -f x11grab -r 25 -s 1024x768 -i :0.0 -vcodec huffyuv -sameq screencast.avi" just customize to suite.  Good luck.
[22:33] <onetinsoldier> LinuxGuy2009: you might need to follow this guide to have full x264 and ffmpeg functionality --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[22:33] <jrib> latenite: or maybe I misremember
[22:33] <mickster04> [tla]: try ubuntu-desktop, but xserver + gnome i think are basics?
[22:33] <linuxdc> can i get help here
[22:33] <latenite> jrib, mybe both. mine worked though
[22:33] <jrib> latenite: doesn't matter now :)
[22:33] <nothingnow> alktors: im pretty positive you dont have to worry about getting a virus on a *nix box from a spam bot on skype
[22:34] <dxtr> onetinsoldier: Doesn't really help me
[22:34] <mickster04> dsl1194: wrong channel?
[22:34] <latenite> jrib, indeed :)
[22:34] <mickster04> !ask | linuxdc:
[22:34] <blastimir> hi all, I've just installed SCIM and all the stuff needed for chinese input.. it seems to be working, but it looks like I need to set SCM as the input method every time. Is there a way to make SCIM a global input method for gnome? As a preference?
[22:34] <onetinsoldier> dxtr: roger. sorry. was hoping it might
[22:34] <Wavesonics> hey whats the best program for diffing text files?
[22:34] <dsl1194> no because dsl chanel none support
[22:34] <compaq> do some computers download faster than others.  I mean if you use the same internet connection?
[22:34] <mickster04> dsl1194: oh ok...good luck
[22:34] <[tla]> mickster04: wow, yes, ubuntu desktop pulls in 1.9GB of packages :o
[22:34] <alktors> nothingnow,  Ubuntu isn't affected by windows viruses? I ask because I'm a beginner. Don't gnu/linux distros have viruses?
[22:35] <mickster04> compaq: nope...
[22:35] <linuxdc> ERROR
[22:35] <linuxdc> The requested URL could not be retrieved
[22:35] <linuxdc> While trying to retrieve the URL: /
[22:35] <linuxdc> The following error was encountered:
[22:35] <linuxdc> Invalid URL
[22:35] <linuxdc> Some aspect of the requested URL is incorrect. Possible problems:
[22:35] <FloodBot4> linuxdc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:35] <mickster04> !virus | alktors
[22:35] <[tla]> mickster04: not sure i want it now! :s
[22:35] <alktors> mickster04,  thank you
[22:35] <LinuxGuy2009> onetinsoldier: Well it seems more like the OGV format doesnt get read correctly or something. HandBrake was the only app so far that could see the video and audio but the start was cut off and made the audio out of sync as a result.
[22:35] <onetinsoldier> !pastebin | linuxdc
[22:35] <mickster04> [tla]: i think u can prolly do without most of it, mostly xserver and some other stuffd...
[22:36] <onetinsoldier> LinuxGuy2009: roger. sorry, but don't know how to help much really
[22:36] <compaq> mickster04, thats what I thought too, but usually when I download using my laptop its way faster than what I am downloading at right now
[22:36] <linuxdc> working amsn , transmission but i cant surf i got this erorr
[22:36] <linuxdc> any ideas
[22:36] <linuxdc> my english is bad
[22:36] <linuxdc> sorry
[22:36] <onetinsoldier> LinuxGuy2009: you can try ther link i gave you to get the bleeding edge x264 and ffmpeg. it's all i can think of
[22:37] <blastimir> I've just installed SCIM and all the stuff needed for chinese input.. it seems to be working, but it looks like I need to set SCIM as the input method every time for every text box. Is there a way to make SCIM a global input method for gnome? As a preference?
[22:37] <mickster04> compaq: there is a difference between wireless and wired
[22:37] <LinuxGuy2009>  onetinsoldier: Thats cool man, I appreciate it.
[22:37] <onetinsoldier> LinuxGuy2009: you're welcome
[22:37] <etate> arg, still same error, no RAM errors with memtest86, md5 cd checked ... livecd options still get stuck, how can i install ubuntu?
[22:38] <onetinsoldier> LinuxGuy2009: i've noticed there are people drooling for a version of handbrake for lucid
[22:38] <mickster04> onetinsoldier: theres a what now?! ;P'''''
[22:38] <lyrae> is it possible to choose which icons to show on the toolbar in the file explorer?
[22:38] <lyrae> like, the back arrow, refresh button, etc
[22:39] <compaq> mickster04, my wireless goes really fast
[22:39] <onetinsoldier> mickster04: hehe
[22:39] <LinuxGuy2009> onetinsoldier: Why drool when you can just go download it at www.getdeb.net ? Its sitting right there and works perfectly. I found it there just the other day. hehe
[22:39] <etate> is there a way to get a terminal from the livecd? or to install ubuntu without a livecd / usb, and without having to create a new partition on the drive?
[22:39] <Ljungmann> In nautilus, i can click on my windows partition or my raid, and it gets mounted in /media/<label>. What is the equivalent for mounting in the terminal ?
[22:39] <mickster04> compaq: yeah well...basically there shouldnt be, there may be a difference between operating systems etc tho....
[22:39] <onetinsoldier> LinuxGuy2009: ahh, roger. didn't know there was one out.. thanks
[22:40] <etate> Ljungmann: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/<label>
[22:40] <compaq> mickster04, maybe its just peek time right now, at night I will see
[22:40] <erUSUL> !wubi | etate
[22:40] <LinuxGuy2009> onetinsoldier: Welcome. Also if you were waiting for VirtualBox there is a new build available of the non-free with USB support.
[22:40] <unop> !mount | Ljungmann
[22:40] <ubuntu__> rthcf
[22:40] <etate> erUSUL: i only run linux, i don't have windows
[22:40] <brah-> sorry to hear that
[22:40] <etate> Ljungmann: or just type man mount
[22:41] <harjot> how do i hide everything on one virtual dekstop?
[22:41] <Ljungmann> But isn't there an equivalent where I don't have to specify device and mount point ? But just someting like 'mount raid' (where raid is the label of my raid)
[22:42] <etate> Ljungmann: type df in your console or look at /etc/fstab to figure out what your device is
[22:42] <unop> Ljungmann,  try.  pmount /dev/sdXX  # where sdXX is your device
[22:42] <Ljungmann> Okay
[22:43] <etate> Ljungmann: mount is pretty useful you should probably read the man page
[22:43] <Ljungmann> Will do.
[22:44] <etate> so still no one has had the problem that they get stuck at the livecd screen when trying to install ubuntu 10.04?
[22:45] <Ambedrake> need help - Toshiba l505D-S6948 Insyde H2O BIOS - Wireless is controlled on/off by ACPI and is default off. I do not care if Fn keys work so long as the wifi can be turned on either perminently or a new switch control can be created. Does anyone know how this can be done?
[22:45] <onetinsoldier> LinuxGuy2009: roger.. thanks! but, the site didn't download and install Handbrake. it bombed out. it said the handbrake-gtk file was not found on the server :-\
[22:45] <rmatte> Could anyone please help me out with this: http://fpaste.org/VOM3/ - I'm stumped.
[22:46] <etate> Ambedrake: make an initscript ?
[22:46] <ojii> I installed SCIM on my lucid, but now in some apps (eclipse, flash, chrome, firefox) the keyboard stopps working in the middle of typing until I explicitely switch the input method to SCIM using right click menu. How can I tell all apps that they should just use SCIM?
[22:46] <rmatte> Explanation of the issue is in the paste
[22:46] <LinuxGuy2009> onetinsoldier: Did you add the repo to your sources?
[22:46] <onetinsoldier> LinuxGuy2009: it offered to let me use 'apturl', which is what i was trying
[22:46] <rmatte> actually, hmmm, maybe it's these funky characters in /etc/issue
[22:47] <LinuxGuy2009> onetinsoldier: Yeah you still need the repo added for that.
[22:47] <Ambedrake> how can initscript work if the fn over ACPI is not functional? and if that can be done is there a tut?
[22:47] <rmatte> hmmm, nope, apparently not
[22:47] <onetinsoldier> LinuxGuy2009: ok, roger
[22:47] <LinuxGuy2009> onetinsoldier: http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/all#how_to_install
[22:48] <etate> Ambedrake: by not functional you mean in an off state?
[22:48] <timyeung> how long should it take to create a 250gb partition on an external hard drive?
[22:48] <onetinsoldier> LinuxGuy2009: yeah.. thanks. i'm on that page already :-)
[22:48] <CarbX4> I am having trouble getting control of my gpu fan on 10.04 ubuntu, any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
[22:49] <LinuxGuy2009> timyeung: Bout 5-10 seconds guessing
[22:49] <CarbX4> nvidia gts 250
[22:49] <miki4242> hi all. i've installed bughugger, what permissions do i have to give it on launchpad?
[22:49] <etate> timyeung: use time to find out how long it takes and then you'll know :)
[22:49] <timyeung> LinuxGuy2009, its been running for at least an hour and a half
[22:49] <rmatte> aha, I fixed it
[22:49] <rmatte> bug in the code
[22:50] <LinuxGuy2009> timyeung: Yeah thats froze or not working right. What are you using? Gparted?
[22:50] <Ambedrake> Default for wireless is off by hard code BIOS setting and has to be enabled via Fn-F8 of which Fn over ACPI is not useable. So I can not enable the wireless device due to this. This is the only issue that I care about on this LT.
[22:50] <mcaruthers> Is there a way to run "do-release-upgrade" without interaction?
[22:51] <SolarisBoy> can anyone help me with troubleshooting my indicator applet issues? its creating a pid for applications that im opening from it but the window is not visible.
[22:51] <etate> Ambedrake: well you can definitely "call Fn-F8" without having to press those buttons, and then put that in an initscript
[22:51] <timyeung> LinuxGuy2009, yeah gparted. The hard drive is still making noise like it is working
[22:52] <twoey> any recommendations for learning to program for linux?
[22:52] <vlt> Hello. I'm trying to setup pidgin on Ubuntu and am looking for someone using it with gmail's XMPP for video calls successfully (willing to test my connection for a few seconds). Anyone?
[22:52] <Tetnis> google?
[22:52] <Ambedrake> ok, is there a tut for writing such a script?
[22:52] <LinuxGuy2009> timyeung: Hour and a half is insane amount of time for any drive.
[22:52] <etate> twoey: yeah, go to www.opendylan.org
[22:52] <Tetnis> Anyone here experienced with GRUB?
[22:52] <twoey> thank you etate
[22:53] <kjele> mcaruthers: with the -q option
[22:53] <mcaruthers> kjele: Thanks, no manpage ;)
[22:53] <SolarisBoy> is there a different room i should go to for support on indicator-applet issues?
[22:53] <vlt> !anyone | Tetnis
[22:53] <kjele> mcaruthers: -h
[22:54] <mcaruthers> kjele:  Well that I must be having a case of the Mondays :P
[22:54] <Tetnis> Not a bad idea. GRUB keeps giving Error 17: Can't mount Selected Partition!
[22:54] <etate> twoey: what i meant to say was more, learn any programming language that you like, and then you can program in linux... for linux specific things i would recommend following the freebsd manual (its not about linux but its amazing as a starting point)
[22:55] <vlt> Tetnis: Is that after having read menu.lst?
[22:55] <timyeung> LinuxGuy2009, I have a feeling the hard drive is dead. it keeps making this clicking sound. I'm not sure. I think I will let it run all night. If it ain't done by morning I'm going to call the time of death and bury the poor old bastard
[22:55] <Tetnis> I don't use the menu.lst, Using the CLI
[22:56] <etate> twoey: also on ubuntu most stuff is written in python fwiw, but i would recommend starting with a functional language if you can (it will save you years of headaches down the road)
[22:56] <kjele> vlt: Did you fix your problem? Was having a long shower
[22:56] <LinuxGuy2009> timyeung: It may just be Gparted stuck or froze. I know gparted in Parted magic live CD hangs forever like that.
[22:56] <dErzOnk> is there a way to see the downloaded size in Ktorrent in MB and not GB?
[22:56] <timyeung> LinuxGuy2009, any suggestions?
[22:56] <LinuxGuy2009> dErzOnk: 1GB is roughly 1000MB
[22:57] <SolarisBoy> im using lucid the indicator applet version is 0.3.7 , im using gnome-panel when i click on an application in the messaging menu,, it creates a pid but the application doesn't run,, strace on all the pids started from applet (pidgin,gwibber,evolution) show they are all hanging on some (-read) call, can someone help me fix it? it works on my laptop on lucid as well where only difference is that laptop is 64 bit
[22:57] <bsmith093> is there a mirror for keyserver.ubunto.com
[22:57] <etate> who wrote this channels annoying bot? please delete him from cyberspace
[22:57] <bsmith093> keyserver.ubuntu.com
[22:57] <vlt> kjele: No :(   I tried to solve any STUN/NAT problems by putting the machines into the same IP subnet. No success. I found pidgin's Debug window (but now the one I wanted to call is offline ...)
[22:57] <LinuxGuy2009> timyeung: stop gparted, close it, retry it again maybe.
[22:57] <sebsebseb> bsmith093: shes a lovely bot
[22:57] <sebsebseb> !gender | bsmith093
[22:57] <Tetnis> Fembot!
[22:58] <sebsebseb> bsmith093: oh not you
[22:58] <bsmith093> what does that have to do with anything
[22:58] <dErzOnk> well LinuxGuy2009 - i want to know how much MB is left... and atm it says 1,2GB of 1,2GB done.... crappy info :(
[22:58] <vlt> Tetnis: grub version 1 or 2?
[22:58] <Loshki> SolarisBoy: Er, which read call?
[22:58] <Ambedrake>  can the fn key be remapped to another key?
[22:58] <Mba7eth> hi guys i have a usb printer. can i turn my box as a printserver and allow other PCs to print though my ubuntu Print server ?
[22:58] <sebsebseb> etate: see above :)
[22:58] <vlt> Ambedrake: I don't think so. This seems to be hardware dependant
[22:58] <etate> Mba7eth: yes, you should have a CUPS server running if its installed correctly
[22:58] <LinuxGuy2009> dErzOnk: Oh your after an ETA or more accurate data representation.
[22:58] <FirstSgt> I just installed ubuntu (latest) onto a laptop (Dell Lattitude).  It recommended driver install for Nvidia and my PCMCIA Wireless card.  I downloaded and installed both.  Now when I start the lappy, I get a black screen shortly after seeing the ubuntu logo... how do i get to a shell to fix?
[22:58] <Tetnis> Grub version 0.97
[22:59] <vlt> Mba7eth: Yes, CUPS can do that fine.
[22:59] <bsmith093> so anyway... the ubuntu keyserver is being really slow, and timeing out when i try to add a ppa that i know for a fact exists. is there a mirror for it where i can download the key
[22:59] <dErzOnk> ETA?
[22:59] <Ambedrake> hmmm seem to be in a pickle then
[22:59] <SolarisBoy> all the pids are doing this which get started from me messaging menu...' read (14, '
[22:59] <ChogyDan> !tty | FirstSgt
[22:59] <FirstSgt> great
[22:59] <FirstSgt> ok
[22:59] <FirstSgt> i just realized that as I said that ChogyDan
[22:59] <Mba7eth> etate, do i need to follow guide title "install print server on ubuntu" and that solve my issue ?
[22:59] <sebsebseb> Tetnis: ok that's the old good version of Grub
[22:59] <sebsebseb> !grub | Tetnis
[22:59] <LinuxGuy2009> dErzOnk: Estimated Time of Arival
[23:00] <etate> Ambedrake: its definitely possible to do i'm just not sure how you call a key chord directly since i haven't done it before
[23:00] <FirstSgt> ChogyDan: any suggestions on killing the nvidia driver?
[23:00] <dErzOnk> Well i just want to see how much is left... in anything less than GB...
[23:00] <kjele> vlt: That is bad. You just need to configure your router
[23:00] <ChogyDan> FirstSgt: maybe just remove nvidia-current
[23:00] <Ambedrake> kk im still looking around while we spk
[23:00] <vlt> Tetnis: That's version 1 ;-)   Type `root`
[23:00] <LinuxGuy2009> dErzOnk: Check the programs options or preferences.
[23:00] <devius> Hello. I have a problem with netbook-launcher. Anyone can help me out on this?
[23:01] <LinuxGuy2009> !ask | devius
[23:01] <vlt> kjele: My router? No NAT involved here. I can (or rather could) reach the other machine just fine.
[23:01] <Mba7eth> vlt, etate thanks a lot guys :)
[23:01] <mcaruthers> kjele:  I don't seem to have the "-q" option available on do-release-upgrade
[23:01] <Tetnis> I've read all the online FAQ's and info. Sadly none of them fix my problem.
[23:01] <Tetnis> I've also tried setting the root, with no luck :-)
[23:01] <etate> FirstSgt: CTRL + ALT + F1, then in the terminal do sudo modprobe -r
[23:01] <onetinsoldier> LinuxGuy2009: ok, got the getdeb repo added. now, if my lucid crashes i'm going to be looking for you :D   j/k
[23:01] <Tetnis> Coming was a last resort.
[23:01] <etate> FirstSgt: oops, sudo modprobe -r nvidia
[23:01] <kjele> mcaruthers: Guess you need to wait for maverick then
[23:02] <Tetnis> here*
[23:02] <mcaruthers> kjele:  Sigh. Thanks.
[23:02] <devius> Today netbook-launcher on  10.04 stopped launching itself at startup. If I use a terminal to manually start it it returns a segmentation fault. Any ideas? I'm looking in Launchpad for bugs but so far no much luck...
[23:02] <LinuxGuy2009> onetinsoldier: Ive already finished ripping my DVD collection with that package. Its good.
[23:02] <vlt> Tetnis: Don't _try_ to set it, just set it :)
[23:02] <FirstSgt> etate: okay, I actually ran the nvidia-xconfig tool via sudo, and it said the file was messed up, and re-wrote it.
[23:02] <vlt> Tetnis: What does `root` say?
[23:02] <onetinsoldier> LinuxGuy2009: cool, good deal!
[23:02] <FirstSgt> etate: how would I kill the xserver?
[23:02] <SolarisBoy> i have also tried reinstalling indicator-applet indicator-applet-session gnome-panel and dbus,, that only appears to fixed the fact that my chosen username icon wouldn't persist reboots,, after i reinstalled those apps my icon now stays and even shows in the log in window =)
[23:02] <etate> Ambedrake: so am i, i would like to know so tell me if you find out :)
[23:02] <dxtr> Okay.. I kind of got it working now with some fonts.conf hacking
[23:02] <dxtr> But I still wanna do this: xterm -font "-*-nu.se-*-*-*-*-11-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"
[23:02] <dxtr> doesn't work
[23:02] <dxtr> How come+
[23:03] <etate> FirstSgt: CTRL + C once you do CTRL + ALT + F1
[23:03] <FirstSgt> i tried ctrl+alt+backspace, but I see black still.... is there a way I can kill it from a different tty
[23:03] <Ambedrake> seems from specification not possibe as its not controlled by the os atm
[23:03] <FirstSgt> ok
[23:03] <FirstSgt> etate: I will try that.
[23:03] <etate> wait
[23:03] <SolarisBoy> but indicator-applet is still broken,, even i see the dbus messages that show that the application opens i can see my buddy lists active and folks loggin in and out of jabber in dbus-monitor --session...
[23:03] <etate> FirstSgt: if it doesn't kill X, you can always do CTRL + ALT + F7 to bring you back to the desktop
[23:03] <dErzOnk> ahh okay - no ETA cause it's not important... but hey loaded1,2GB of 1,2 and then having 876B/s is senseless info :( - and i checked Settings - can't find it...
[23:03] <Renji> Hi guys:) Can u please help me with a link to a folder i want to create ? Looks like i cant understand something :)
[23:03] <etate> FirstSgt: that way you can still speak on IRC or w/ever
[23:03] <Tetnis> root on grub i assume, and it says the possible disks are fd0 & hd0
[23:03] <Ambedrake> and fnfxd requires toshiba_acpi.ko which I cant for the life of me force enable
[23:04] <vlt> !who | Tetnis
[23:04] <FirstSgt> etate: I'm at the office, I have irssi opened via screen and ssh tunnel to house
[23:05] <etate> Renji: you can use ln -s /blah/src /blah/dest to create a symbolic link to a folder or file (they are the same in unix)
[23:05] <vlt> Tetnis: What partition is grub on?
[23:05] <FirstSgt> etate: so we are good there.
[23:05] <FirstSgt> etate: f7 was still blank, so I restarted computer, if this doesn't work, i will use the modprobe -r nvidia
[23:05] <Tetnis> vlt: partition 0
[23:05] <Colonel-Rosa> The Ubuntu keyserver is dead (for me)
[23:05] <ChogyDan> !X | FirstSgt
[23:06] <vlt> Tetnis: Then it's "(hd0,0)", not "hd0"
[23:06] <etate> FirstSgt: usually its sudo service gdm stop for gnome based desktops ... kdm for kde, and xdm in some other systems, you can find out by looking in /etc/init.d/...
[23:07] <Tetnis> vlt: I know ;-), root (hd0,0) doesn't work - and i know for a fact it's on partition 0
[23:07] <etate> FirstSgt: thats incase ctrl + c didn't kill it
[23:07] <Renji> etate: so.. umm lets say i want to make a link from /var/www/site to /media/SharedDisk/site  so, its something like ln -s /var/www/test-site /media/SharedDisk/test-site ?
[23:07] <ircnow> hello, I have installed ubuntu 10.04, but I can logging only on tty, on tty I have the message: mountall: Plymouth command failed and mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth. Who can give me instruction for to do?
[23:07] <FirstSgt> etate: nope
[23:07] <Renji> Sorry for dump questions, im abit new to those :)
[23:07] <FirstSgt> Modprobe could not find Nvidia
[23:07] <dunas> What's the easiest, safest way to completely remove the Flash Plugin that's installed by the nonfree package?
[23:08] <Loshki> Tetnis: wanna pastebin your menu.lst, And also, the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[23:08] <FirstSgt> I am noticing also that my eth0 is no longer in my ifconfig
[23:08] <sebsebseb> dunas: sudo apt-get purge  flashplugin-nonfree   I think
[23:08] <etate> FirstSgt: lsmod shows you modules that are currently loaded... if nvidia isn't there then its not loaded as a module
[23:08] <FirstSgt> but it was directly after the install.
[23:08] <Ambedrake> tried omnibook but it wont compile compleatly, I have all its dependants
[23:08] <FirstSgt> etate: okay, hardware linux is all new to me
[23:08] <vlt> Tetnis: After setting `root (hd0,0)` type `kernel <tab>`. Does it show files from hd0,0?
[23:08] <dunas> sebsebseb Will give it a try, thanks
[23:09] <sebsebseb> dunas: sudo apt-get purge flashpluing-installer maybe even
[23:09] <Pyroguy> hello
[23:09] <sebsebseb> dunas: why you want to remove Flash anyway?
[23:09] <etate> Renji: yeah that works, you can also do cd /media/SharedDisk, ln -s /dest/file .
[23:09] <FirstSgt> etate: modprobe says its not there, lsmod says it is.
[23:09] <Tetnis> Loshki: As stated before I'm using the command line interface & yes i can give me a moment
[23:09] <sebsebseb> dunas: flashplugin-installer  or you can remove in software centre or synaptic
[23:09] <etate> Renji: also the source path must be absolute
[23:09] <Tetnis> vlt: Comes up with error 1
[23:09] <dunas> sebsebseb, I want to install the alpha from Adobe due to lolx64 :(
[23:09] <etate> Renji: and its ln -s /src/file . (made a mistake in last comment)
[23:09] <FirstSgt> etate: I did modprobe|grep nvidia and 2 results came up
[23:10] <sebsebseb> dunas: what's lolx64 ?
[23:10] <Renji> etate: Thanks, ill give it a shot :)
[23:10] <FirstSgt> but they are red
[23:10] <MACscr_lappy> lol, im going to pull my hair out. It shouldnt be this hard to get 3 monitors to work with ubuntu
[23:10] <SolarisBoy> is there a way to reinstall gnome-desktop and use all defaults?
[23:10] <etate> Renji: you can always do man ln to get more info on this
[23:10] <minedmind> hi, i want to buy a computer with an i5 cpu and a h55 intel chipset on the mb, is it compatible with the last linux kernels?
[23:10] <kjele> dunas: The one that you install from rep is 32bit with ndiswrapper
[23:10] <dunas> kjele, yeah
[23:10] <Tetnis> vlt: Also, i have to use rootnoverify in order bypass error 13 and get to the error 17 stage.
[23:10] <MACscr_lappy> if they all 3 can work on their own, why the hell cant they all 3 work at the same time
[23:10] <FirstSgt> SolarisBoy: i am guessing use aptitude and uninstall it, then reinstall it. (making sure to remove all conf files).
[23:10] <Tetnis> vlt: to get the*
[23:10] <etate> FirstSgt: try doing sudo modprobe -r <nvidia-...>
[23:10] <K350> How to launch a perlscript placed in Autostart in a terminal?
[23:10] <dunas> It doesn't recognize mouseclicks as it is right now, and keeps dropping audio (although so does DivX web plugin, which is making me wonder if there's not a better way of handling that)
[23:11] <vlt> Tetnis: Is there a grub or boot/grub directory in that file system?
[23:11] <FirstSgt> etate: okay.  does the # that shows up with lsmod do anything?
[23:11] <Tetnis> vlt: yes
[23:11] <SolarisBoy> FirstSgt: is that equal to sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-desktop?
[23:11] <etate> FirstSgt: the #? I don't get that running lsmod so not sure
[23:11] <kjele> dunas: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-installer
[23:12] <FirstSgt> SolarisBoy: yes, assuming reinstall removes conf files :)
[23:12] <etate> is there an IRC channel where people can help with hard problems?
[23:12] <FirstSgt> hmm... hard to see on the little display, i get like a 4x4 inch box inside my 17'' lcd
[23:12] <FirstSgt> but yeah, it says nvidia                482377215
[23:12] <FirstSgt> I am just going to do a fresh reinstall I think.
[23:13] <FirstSgt> wouldn't hurt right?
[23:13] <etate> FirstSgt: thats the size of the module
[23:13] <FirstSgt> oh
[23:13] <FirstSgt> im very surprised its saying it doesn't exist
[23:13] <FirstSgt> but lsmod shows it
[23:13] <etate> FirstSgt: what was your problem in the first place? as in why are you trying to kill nvidia? :)
[23:13] <ChogyDan> SolarisBoy: what defaults do you want?
[23:13] <SolarisBoy> whichever ones come when i installed ubuntu
[23:13] <SolarisBoy> as if it was a fresh install,, but ONLY gnome-desktop
[23:13] <Loshki> etate: it depends on the problem. And 'hard' is kind of subjective...
[23:14] <etate> Loshki: hard as in have searched for hours and tried multiple fixes none of which work
[23:14] <ChogyDan> SolarisBoy: what are you trying to remove?
[23:14] <Tetnis> vlt: I'm just going to scrap the system and start over. Thanks for your help :-)
[23:14] <etate> Loshki: hard also as in its a bug in launchpad that has fixes that don't work
[23:15] <dxtr> Anyone0
[23:15] <dxtr> ?
[23:15] <SolarisBoy> ChogyDan: my problem is indicator-applet is not opening applications correctly when i try opening from messaging menu,,, and _one_ time,, it randomly worked on the 32 bit desktop running lucid,, and it works absolutely fine on my 64 bit laptop on lucid
[23:16] <FirstSgt> its weird, i dont think ubuntu likes my lappy screen at all
[23:16] <SolarisBoy> now i just found that 2 instances of the indicator-* processes are running on the not working system...
[23:16] <FirstSgt> even on the install there are virticle lime-green lines (1px wide) every 10 pixles.  going through the blue.
[23:16] <indio> Hi.
[23:16] <FirstSgt> then the white text produces pixilized green dots.
[23:17] <SolarisBoy> im trying to find the cause but i can't,, i dont know what else calls those apps into process table but the entry in gnome panel,, which i already removed,, and added back.. so it appers gnome-panel could possibly be playing a role in this,,,
[23:17] <Ambedrake> ok so Fn-F3 suspends, (its labled to suspend RAM) but the others dont work hmmm interesting
[23:17] <indio> Anyone using ratpoison in Lucid Lynx? Can you listen to your music CDs?
[23:17] <etate> FirstSgt: you're using the nvidia drivers? Is the resolution the native res for your screen?
[23:17] <Loshki> etate: to be honest, if there's a bug entry for it in launchpad, the chances that there's a channel somewhere with someone hiding just waiting to give you the answer, but who won't put it in the bug entry, seems vanishingly small, to say the least. The right thing to do is to update the bug entry and let the people responsible know that there's still a problem....
[23:17] <MACscr_lappy> whats a easy solution for imaging/backing up my system so that i can easy restore it on the fly should i break something, etc?
[23:19] <etate> Loshki: what i really would like would be for a way to find out for myself how to fix the problem, rather than needing to ask for help. however i don't know how to modify the livecd
[23:19] <FirstSgt> etate: even during install (fresh copy) i am getting that (without any drivers)
[23:19] <SolarisBoy> now if i kilall -9 -r indicator the process pops up a notification saying it died and if i want to reload,, when i reload,,, there is 1 instance of each indicator-* process,, but still apps dont open,, but i think it has something to do with this weirdness which looks like its due to gnome-panel
[23:19] <corin_> hi, not sure if this is the best channel to ask this in but... I've got a piece of software that runs from /usr/local/bin/ and is run by a non-root user. I'd like to make it a service, so it automatically starts when the server reboots, and it can be started/stopped/etc with "/etc/init.d/XX ..." - could anyone point me towards how to do that?
[23:19] <etate> FirstSgt: the text based install?
[23:19] <Ambedrake> is there an on screen keyboard that i can use to test some theories?
[23:20] <wizard_> Ambedrake: yes there is, I believe it is installed by default, too.  I forget the name of it, something like OnBoard
[23:20] <jrib> corin_: if you want to do it right using upstart, see ubottu
[23:20] <FirstSgt> etate: TUI yes
[23:20] <jrib> !upstart > corin_
[23:20] <Loshki> !backup | MACscr_lappy
[23:21] <wizard_> Remastersys is the best for backing up a debian or Ubuntu system, in my opinion.
[23:21] <SolarisBoy> !indicator-messages-service
[23:21] <blackratdog> how do you get the currently installed version of a package?
[23:21] <gnugr> hey hackers
[23:21] <SolarisBoy> dpkg -L <package>
[23:21] <jrib> blackratdog: apt-cache policy  is one way
[23:21] <corin_> thanks jrib, ill take a look
[23:21] <onetinsoldier> blackratdog: dpkg -l <package>
[23:21] <etate> FirstSgt: has this occured before in any other system?
[23:21] <wizard_> blackratdog: you can open Synaptic and see which version is installed.
[23:22] <ircnow> hello, I have installed new ubuntu 10.04 and I have this message on tty7: mountall: Plymouth command failed, mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth. What can I do now?
[23:22] <FirstSgt> etate: nope.  It was running centos
[23:22] <blackratdog> okies thanks guys ill try those!
[23:22] <SolarisBoy> oops lowercase l
[23:22] <etate> FirstSgt: and it happens in and out of the desktop?
[23:22] <Ambedrake> is there an onboard layout with Fn key?
[23:22] <Ambedrake> and f1-12
[23:23] <glenn_> hello
[23:23] <jrib> Ambedrake: why out of curiousity?
[23:23] <glenn_> How may I hot-remount my / as rw? filesystem: ext3
[23:23] <etate> FirstSgt: so when you do ctrl + alt +f1 the screen still has problems?
[23:23] <sebsebseb> ircnow: when do you get that?
[23:23] <sebsebseb> iceroot: when you try boot up Ubuntu you get that?
[23:23] <FirstSgt> etate: yeah.  the display even in tty is small, and i see random green dots/lines (1px verts)
[23:23] <jrib> glenn_: why isn't rw?  Anyway, you can pass remount,rw to the mount command
[23:23] <ircnow> sebsebseb: yes now on tty7
[23:23] <corin_> jrib: are the any guides on doing it the wrong way, to be more traditional?
[23:23] <sebsebseb> iceroot: clean install or upgrade from 9.10 or 8.04  of 10.04?
[23:23] <glenn_> jrib: "mount: cannot remount block device read-write: it is write-protected"
[23:24] <Ambedrake> running some tests in Fn over ACPI for this Toshiba L505D-S6948
[23:24] <indio> Anyone using ratpoison in Lucid Lynx? Can you listen to your music CDs with Rhytmbox?
[23:24] <jrib> corin_: ubuntu doesn't use sysv-init anymore, you really should write an upstart script. In the past there was something like /etc/init.d/skeleton
[23:24] <kinks> it appears I have no /etc/asound.conf, or ~/.asoundrc. for that matter.. any idea which package should be installing it? I am running 10.04.
[23:24] <Ambedrake> seems unable to tur wifi card on with phys keyboard
[23:24] <ircnow> sebsebseb: installed from cd 10.04
[23:24] <Luija1006> Hello people please I need help: Kate is having error opening .js greasemonkey scripts: when I click edit with greasemonkey this error windows appears http://i39.tinypic.com/24msuna.png , but in 9.10 kate opened the greasemonkey scripts perfectly, whats going on?
[23:24] <jrib> glenn_: you didn't answer my first question
[23:24] <sebsebseb> ircnow: ok and you haven't even logged in to it yet?
[23:24] <kinks> or, even better, is having an asound.conf even necessary? pulseaudio is showing application playback, but my speakers produce no sound; no channels are muted.
[23:25] <ircnow> sebsebseb: yes on tty1
[23:25] <corin_> jrib: all the software currently on there (apache mysqld etc) uses /etc/init.d/apache2(etc), cant I just add it like that?
[23:25] <jrib> corin_: what version of ubuntu?
[23:25] <sebsebseb> iceroot: you have logged in on tty1, and then it's just in the terminal yeah?
[23:25] <sebsebseb> ircnow: ^
[23:25] <sebsebseb> iceroot: wrong one
[23:25] <corin_> jrib: 8.04.2 LTS
[23:25] <corin_> server
[23:25] <glenn_> jrib: apologies. dmesg has a line reporting: error: ext3fs (sda1) error: remounting filesystem read-only
[23:26] <jrib> corin_: sure, but just note that ubuntu is moving to upstart
[23:26] <etate> FirstSgt: thats weird... i mean my guess would have been a problem with the framebuffer if it was just in the terminal, but on desktop as well would mean it renders incorrectly everywhere .. I would guess its a resolution issue but i don't know
[23:26] <sebsebseb> ircnow: so  your able to give Ubuntu commands, but that's it?
[23:26] <ircnow> sebsebseb: on tty7 message is: mountall: Plymouth command failed, mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth.
[23:26] <jrib> glenn_: don't know then
[23:26] <FirstSgt> etate: right after i installed ubuntu it ran beautifully ... the drivers messed that up.
[23:26] <sebsebseb> ircnow: Plymouth is the boot up
[23:26] <corin_> jrib, 8.04.2 LTS has support until 2015 I think, so I have 5 years to learn upstart? ;D
[23:27] <Luija1006> Hello people please I need help: Kate is having error opening .js greasemonkey scripts: when I click edit with greasemonkey this error windows appears http://i39.tinypic.com/24msuna.png , but in 9.10 kate opened the greasemonkey scripts perfectly, whats going on?
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Luija1006: I remember you,  I belive
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Luija1006: and yeah #kubuntu
[23:27] <Jordan_U> corin_: Unless everyone switches to systemd :)
[23:27] <jrib> corin_: 8.04 has support until 2011 on the desktop, 2013 on the server
[23:27] <Luija1006> sebsebseb: do I know you?
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Luija1006: no just
[23:27] <etate> FirstSgt: you could remove the nvidia driver altogether and see what happens then (it will default to nv i think)
[23:28] <sebsebseb> Luija1006: I remember someone having a kate and greasemonkey issue, I guess it was you
[23:28] <corin_> jrib, i can live with 3 years
[23:28] <corin_> so err, any guides on the init.d way? :(
[23:28] <SharkPants> Hey man
[23:28] <jrib> corin_: read /etc/init.d/skeleton
[23:28] <Luija1006> oh... yeah it was me, sebsebseb and I didnt find solution yet, so I am triying in this channel too, sorry for the bother
[23:28] <SharkPants> you guys are all hosers unless you use xmonad as a window manager!
[23:28] <corin_> ok thanks
[23:28] <sebsebseb> Luija1006: anyway since Kate is a KDE app  #kubuntu is a good channel to try, but you can also continue here  trying to get help for your issue
[23:29] <Luija1006> ok :)
[23:29] <koanen_t> sebsebseb: We love me
[23:29] <sebsebseb> koanen_t: what?
[23:29] <sebsebseb> ircnow: yes you get that message, is that it?  you can't log in to  your user account, and put in some commands or something?
[23:29] <ircnow> sebsebseb: yes i can
[23:30] <sebsebseb> ircnow: Have you used Ubuntu before?
[23:30] <ircnow> sebsebseb: yes 9.04
[23:30] <sebsebseb> ircnow: ok and you skipped 9.10?
[23:30] <koanen_t> sebsebseb: Now we like GNOME. Its the best thing in the world. The one who are liking KDE ... Death
[23:30] <ircnow> sebsebseb: yes 9.10
[23:30] <sebsebseb> koanen_t: uhmm
[23:31] <sebsebseb> koanen_t: KDE is ok as well, and some of the apps are rather nice indeed, and they can be run in Gnome as well
[23:31] <koanen_t> sebsebseb: Google Hells Angels
[23:31] <oxymoron> Hello guys I am on my girls computer and need help with graphics on a SiS 671MX where I cannot change resolution higher than 800x600 and plymouth shows flimmer and ant wars on bootup, the desktop effects doesnt work turning on
[23:31] <koanen_t> sebsebseb: I love you bro
[23:31] <xok> hello all...
[23:31] <_blackwater_> ot! | koanen_t
[23:31] <ircnow> sebsebseb: but I have changed grubconf default, that was hard
[23:31] <xok> I am trying to install kubuntu over NFS...
[23:31] <sebsebseb> !ot | koanen_t
[23:32] <xok> has anyone done such thing before?..
[23:32] <xok> I've got problems...
[23:32] <sebsebseb> ircnow: you changed Grub?
[23:32] <ircnow> sebsebseb: then I must installed new
[23:32] <sebsebseb> ircnow: maybe
[23:32] <sebsebseb> ircnow: What have you changed? from default install?
[23:33] <ircnow> sebsebseb: it was not possible to boot grub error 15
[23:33] <sebsebseb> ircnow: when you did your clean install of 10.04 what happended?  you got the Plymouth message?
[23:33] <Luija1006> Hello people please I need help: Kate is having error opening .js greasemonkey scripts: when I click edit with greasemonkey this error windows appears http://i39.tinypic.com/24msuna.png , but in 9.10 kate opened the greasemonkey scripts perfectly, whats going on?
[23:33] <xok> can anyone tell me why kubuntu may say "Please provide a name for this Disc, such as 'Debian 5.0.3 Disk 1' : " when I try to install kubuntu over NFS?..
[23:33] <sebsebseb> xok: try #kubuntu
[23:33] <Grujah> Got a small problem.. I tried to add a pannel to the bottom of the screen.. but it didn't apear and instead when I maximize a window bottom 20 or so pixels do are not used .. like in this picutre http://i42.tinypic.com/295eh3o.png
[23:33] <xok> sebsebseb, thanks, will try...
[23:33] <ubuntu01> hello #ubuntu !
[23:34] <ircnow> sebsebseb: yes after installed 10.04 I have this message on tty7
[23:34] <sebsebseb> ircnow: ok
[23:34] <etate> Luija1006: have you tried something other than kate ?
[23:34] <sebsebseb> ircnow: Which graphics card you got?
[23:34] <sebsebseb> ircnow: Old or new computer?  How old?
[23:34] <ircnow> sebsebseb: nvidia
[23:34] <sebsebseb> ircnow: I thought you said you had to change Grub or something?
[23:35] <ircnow> sebsebseb: yes on 9.10
[23:35] <sebsebseb> ircnow: Why?
[23:35] <Luija1006> etate: I cannot :( when I click the button edit, if you click it for the first time it lets you select your favorite text editor, but now than I choosed kate, when I click the edit button again it tosses the kate error windows, dont know how to get greasemonkey to default, because I desinstalled it and it keeps splashing the kate error!
[23:35] <ircnow> sebsebseb: for checking
[23:35] <sebsebseb> ircnow: By default 9.04 uses Grub the old version,  by default 9.10 and 10.04 use the newer Grub 2, which also isn't really as good as the old one for many of us
[23:36] <sebsebseb> ircnow: Do you have Windows on the computer as well or??
[23:36] <ircnow> sebsebseb: yes
[23:36] <sebsebseb> ircnow: ok and Windows boots up no problem?
[23:37] <Jordan_U> sebsebseb: What do you prefer about grub legacy?
[23:37] <etate> Luija1006: you can always start a terminal and type: <editor> file.js
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Jordan_U: it does the trick for me,  I don't need this Grub 2 rubbish
[23:37] <Ambedrake> ok if i want to see the interrupt that is given by the Fn-X key how can I do this?
[23:37] <ircnow> sebsebseb: now after installed 10.04 is ok
[23:37] <etate> Luija1006: where <editor> is something other than kate... or am i missing the point?
[23:37] <Luija1006> etate: oh cool, let me try that
[23:37] <sebsebseb> ircnow: what's ok after installing 10.04?
[23:37] <ircnow> sebsebseb: yes
[23:38] <ircnow> sebsebseb: but before upgrading to 10.04 was error 15
[23:38] <sebsebseb> ircnow: error 15,  and Ubuntu woudn't load or?
[23:38] <sebsebseb> ircnow: I thought you said you did a clean install of 10.04 not an upgrade from previous version?
[23:39] <sebsebseb> ircnow: if a previous version didn't boot up, and you clean isntalled, well then sure, the new install should boot up
[23:39] <ircnow> sebsebseb: no I have intalling new 10.04 now
[23:39] <etate> Luija1006: fwiw there are plenty of editors capable of handling javascript.. my favourite is emacs
[23:39] <ubuntu01> i am having a small problem with ubuntu 10.04 and my Dell Latitude CPi. when i try to connect to my wireless network (buffalo, which it sees), it fails to connect. it even asks me for the key. ifconfig shows that i have two devices: eth0 and loopback. does anyone have any experience with ubuntu not seeing networks?
[23:39] <sebsebseb> ircnow: so the install with teh Plymouth error message was an upgrade from a previous version?
[23:39] <etate> Luija1006: emacs has a great mode that interacts and loads javascript into firefox automatically too
[23:39] <Luija1006> etate: ok but now greasemonkey is stuck with that kate error forever? -_-
[23:39] <ircnow> sebsebseb: no its from the cd 10.04
[23:40] <sebsebseb> ircnow: ok
[23:40] <sebsebseb> ircnow: and on your clean install your getting that message, which is odd
[23:40] <etate> Luija1006: what command did you type in the terminal?
[23:40] <ircnow> sebsebseb: yes
[23:40] <spizkapa> @Ambedrake: use xev from the command prompt. Anything you type will print its keycode etc "live" for you
[23:40] <Ambedrake> ty
[23:40] <spizkapa> np
[23:41] <ircnow> sebsebseb: I think I must install some packages, but plymouth I dont know
[23:41] <Ubuntu1> i am having a small problem with ubuntu 10.04 and my Dell Latitude CPi. when i try to connect to my wireless network (buffalo, which it sees), it fails to connect. it even asks me for the key. ifconfig shows that i have two devices: eth0 and loopback. does anyone have any experience with ubuntu not seeing networks?
[23:41] <sebsebseb> ircnow: not sure what to suggest,  there is a way to get a text boot instead, well if it will work,  instead of people having the working plymouth graphical boot up, which  your not getting.   There are a few different issues when it comes to Plymouth in 10.04,  however I haven't seen people saying about your issue in here before.
[23:42] <sebsebseb> ircnow: What was wrong with 9.04, why did you want to upgrade to 10.04?
[23:42] <Luija1006> etate: pretty pretty rare
[23:42] <_blackwater_> Ubuntu1 what wireless chipset is in your dell
[23:42] <Grujah> Got a small problem.. I tried to add a pannel to the bottom of the screen.. but it didn't apear and instead when I maximize a window bottom 20 or so pixels do are not used .. like in this picutre http://i42.tinypic.com/295eh3o.png
[23:42] <Luija1006> etate: luis@Acer:~/.mozilla/firefox/viyfxqf2.default/gm_scripts/lockerz_unplayd$ kate lockerz_unplayd.user.js
[23:42] <Luija1006> etate: it opens the .js without any problem
[23:43] <Ubuntu1> _blackwater_: sorry i am not sure, how would i check that ?
[23:43] <Luija1006> but the greasemonkey kate doesnt... etate
[23:43] <ircnow> sebsebseb: on 9.04 was good, but after upgrading to 10.04 I have shot my grub down, then I couldent boot again, then I istalled complet new
[23:43] <_blackwater_> Ubuntu1 drop to console screen, type lspci
[23:44] <etate> Luija1006: one sec i'm just looking at what these tools you're using actually are :)
[23:44] <Luija1006> etate: ok lol :D
[23:44] <Ubuntu1> _blackwater_:44BX
[23:44] <sebsebseb> ircnow: so you upgraded 9.04 to 9.10 and then to 10.04?   then after problems tried a clean install of 10.04?
[23:44] <Ubuntu1> _blackwater_:40BX
[23:44] <histo> Ubuntu1: look in System > admin > hardware drivers  see if its listing your wifi card as a restricted
[23:44] <_blackwater_> Ubuntu1 broadcomm
[23:44] <Ubuntu1> _blackwater_:440BX
[23:44] <Ubuntu1> sorry lol
[23:44] <Ubuntu1> im a bad typist
[23:44] <ircnow> sebsebseb: yes exactly
[23:44] <histo> Ubuntu1: open a terminal and you can copy and paste the line
[23:44] <sebsebseb> ircnow: after the upgrade from 9.10, what problem did you get in 10.04?
[23:44] <histo> Ubuntu1: nvm.
[23:45] <carlosfrg> hola donde esta el cana de ubunu en epañol???
[23:45] <sebsebseb> !es | carlosfrg
[23:45] <_blackwater_> Ubuntu1 ok so can you hardwire your lan connection temporarily, will need to optain broadcom firmware.
[23:45] <carlosfrg> gracias
[23:45] <ircnow> sebsebseb: on 10.04 I get this on tty7: mountall: Plymouth command failed, mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth.
[23:45] <sebsebseb> ircnow: ok you  got this error message, after upgrading from 9.10 as well as with a clean install from CD?
[23:46] <Ubuntu1> _blackwater_: our laptop does not have an ethernet jack. is there any way of transfering it possibly ?
[23:46] <ircnow> sebsebseb: not upgrading, I have installed complet new 10.04
[23:46] <_blackwater_> there is - could get the .deb file on usb stick.
[23:46] <sebsebseb> ircnow: ok
[23:46] <sebsebseb> ircnow: have you ever used a text editor in the terminal?
[23:47] <sebsebseb> ircnow: nano  or vi/vim
[23:47] <ircnow> sebsebseb: yes vim
[23:47] <Ubuntu1> ok great ill try that, thanks _blackwater_
[23:47] <etate> Luija1006: my guess would be greasemonkey has trouble parsing that particular js file
[23:47] <_blackwater_> Ubuntu1 sure, you're looking for the bwcutter firmware btw.
[23:47] <sebsebseb> ircnow: right Plymouth is new for Ubuntu,  Fedora and Mandriva have had for a while.  however yes Plymouth is new in Ubuntu with 10.04 being the first version to have it.  As a result only  some of us know about Plymouth that come here.  Also there are quite a few issues that can happen with it.
[23:48] <Ambedrake> OK so the Fn for toggling the wifi card looks like it cant be mapped is there a terminal way to enable the wifi card?
[23:48] <etate> Luija1006: does it work with other scripts? have you tried with a simpler script maybe?
[23:48] <sebsebseb> ircnow: I have an idea though, something that might work
[23:48] <histo> !broadcom | Ubuntu1
[23:48] <Ubuntu1> okey
[23:48] <ircnow> sebsebseb: yey?
[23:48] <sebsebseb> ircnow: on two computers now or?
[23:49] <histo> Ambedrake: how'd you disable it?
[23:49] <ircnow> sebsebseb: on one
[23:49] <Ambedrake> its disabled on boot automatically
[23:49] <sebsebseb> ircnow: now I am not really sure what that error message means,  I think it is saying that,  for whatever reason it can't boot up the graphical Plymouth boot up
[23:49] <Ambedrake> and Fn over ACPI is not supported for this LT
[23:49] <Petein> why a FAT fs would be undesirable for a500GB hdd used to record and play back large video files?
[23:49] <etate> Luija1006: try it with a script from here: http://userscripts.org/ and see if it makes a difference
[23:49] <sebsebseb> ircnow: right, but maybe you can set up the text only boot up, and have that working instead
[23:50] <fredrik_> I have a Asus Eee 901 which I have installed Ubuntu Server Edition on. I
[23:50] <ChogyDan> Petein: doesn't fat have a 4g file limit?
[23:50] <Petein> ChogyDan: yeah it does so?
[23:50] <ircnow> sebsebseb: how can I configure my graphiccard now, maybe its this
[23:50] <sebsebseb> ircnow: that's something else
[23:50] <g0th> hi
[23:50] <sebsebseb> ircnow: if you install the propritary NIvida driver, and the  graphical boot up works properly,  it won't work proerly
[23:50] <histo> ChogyDan: fat16 does
[23:50] <g0th> how do I install sage for kubuntu lucid?
[23:51] <histo> !info sage | g0th
[23:51] <fredrik_> I have also installed xfce4 for a light desktop enviroment. I want to pair my bt-device (a phone) with the computer. My computer have BT (I've used it before on another OS), but I can't get it to work now
[23:51] <sebsebseb> ircnow: it won't work properly with propritary NIvida driver.  However it should really be working with the open source driver for Nivida
[23:51] <sebsebseb> ircnow: that comes with 10.04
[23:51] <ircnow> sebsebseb: I think from cd was not installed nvidia driver
[23:51] <sebsebseb> ircnow: 10.04 comes with a driver for NIvida which works fine with Plymouth,  if you install the propritary driver you get a boot up problem
[23:51] <etate> so does anyone know how to get past the livecd first boot screen without it failing?
[23:52] <harjot> how do i format a drive?
[23:52] <maco> harjot: mkfs
[23:52] <maco> harjot: or install gparted
[23:52] <sebsebseb> ircnow: for some reason Plymouth won't boot up on your computer like it's meant to
[23:52] <gnugr> Ubuntu1: to start eith0 try " dhclient eth0 "   to stop it use  " ifdown eth0 "  to config use " ifconfig eth0 "
[23:52] <harjot> a usb drive
[23:52] <fredrik_> I have followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup, but when I run hcitool dev I do not get any devices?
[23:52] <fredrik_> Suggestions?
[23:52] <maco> harjot: gparted if you want a gui, mkfs if you're fine with the command line
[23:52] <etate> harjot: you can use fdisk on your drive
[23:52] <harjot> fdisk
[23:52] <harjot> ok
[23:52] <maco> harjot: fdisk is for partitioning. mkfs is for formatting
[23:53] <Luija1006> etate: lol the scripts are from userscripts.org
[23:53] <etate> maco: you can format with fdisk, and partition, 2 birds, 1 stone
[23:53] <maco> harjot: assuming your flash drive has a suitable partition table already you just need mkfs
[23:53] <harjot> im trying to format a flash drive so i should use mkfs?
[23:53] <Mintz> still looking for a UBUNTU CAM driver for ACER ASPIRE 8940G
[23:53] <sebsebseb> ircnow: so even if you get the graphical boot up working,  you would then get another problem, after installing propritary NIvida driver
[23:53] <maco> etate: really? O_O dang it
[23:53] <g0th> why is there no sage for kubuntu anymore?
[23:53] <maco> etate: clearly i do things the stupidly long way round :P
[23:53] <g0th> the website offers ubuntu packages
[23:53] <maco> g0th: sage?
[23:54] <Mintz> WEBCAM driver,,,?
[23:54] <ircnow> sebsebseb: I dont know, how I can reconfigure now my nvidia?
[23:54] <maco> g0th: ubuntu and kubuntu share a repository...
[23:54] <g0th> http://www.sagemath.org/
[23:54] <etate> maco: not sure i haven't used mkfs :)
[23:54] <sebsebseb> ircnow: you don't not yet anyway
[23:54] <etate> maco: but it sounds like its a util to make a filesystem... which is a bad start really
[23:54] <ircnow> sebsebseb: no
[23:54] <etate> maco: unless it makes a filesystem of a type you want...
[23:54] <g0th> sage is very important, so I am really surprised to learn that it is no longer included
[23:54] <sebsebseb> ircnow: you only install the Nivida driver, if you want to 3D game or run Compiz,  and also only if well you can boot in to Ubuntu
[23:55] <sebsebseb> ircnow: and at the moment you can't even boot it up properly
[23:55] <maco> etate: yeah you tell it which format you want ;-)
[23:55] <maco> g0th: what are you talking about?
[23:55] <ircnow> sebsebseb: ok compitz I will do
[23:55] <maco> g0th: if theres an ubuntu package then theres a kubuntu package
[23:55] <sebsebseb> ircnow: right, but you can't at the moment
[23:55] <maco> g0th: theyre the same thing
[23:55] <sebsebseb> ircnow: since you can't boot up Ubuntu like your meant to
[23:55] <sebsebseb> ircnow: since Plymouth is not working like it's meant to
[23:55] <daveWilky> sage is very nice with onions...
[23:56] <Luija1006> etate: every script from GM comes from userscripts.org
[23:56] <ircnow> sebsebseb: and xserver-xorg
[23:56] <etate> maco: if you want the whole device to be of one filesystem i can understand that... but either way he has to partition at some point :/
[23:56] <sebsebseb> ircnow: I think  your 10.04 CD is fine
[23:56] <Bizzeh> hi, im trying to install an RPM package, but it just opens in archive manager, it used to install from click... am i missing something?
[23:56] <superjoe> has anyone else had the problem after upgrading to Lucid where some scripts don't return after they're done executing?
[23:56] <ircnow> sebsebseb: I dont know
[23:56] <maco> etate: i said "assuming you have a suitable partition table" didnt i?
[23:56] <sebsebseb> ircnow: if you still have the ISO you could check to see if it's a good ISO or not, but I don't think that you have a bad ISO is the problem
[23:57] <g0th> maco: I never said otherwise
[23:57] <maco> etate: way ive learned (from sysadmin books/classes) is fdisk to partition, then mkfs to format the partitions you just made
[23:57] <maco> g0th: and sage is still in the repo as of lucid and maverick
[23:57] <g0th> hmm but I dont find it
[23:57] <g0th> which repo?
[23:57] <ircnow> sebsebseb: yes I have the iso on an other pc
[23:57] <sebsebseb> ircnow: I think it would probably be a good idea to,  maybe try 10.04 again another clean install,  make sure your installing from a good ISO first in this case as well.   Or put 9.04 or 9.10 on.  However there's something you could try first
[23:57] <etate> maco: oh yeah you did. yeah i guess we just looked at things in different ways
[23:58] <Bizzeh> how do i install rpm's on ubuntu now?
[23:58] <sebsebseb> !alien | Bizzeh
[23:58] <maco> g0th: universe
[23:58] <g0th> maco: it is not in my universe repo
[23:58] <etate> maco: i always use fdisk to create partitions and format the disk how i like, then i use the specific fs tool to create the filesystem
[23:58] <sebsebseb> Bizzeh: not so sure about alien being dangerous, but yes you woudn't normally do RPM's or try to do them, on Ubuntu
[23:58] <maco> g0th: the two binary packages generated by the sage source package are libsage-dev and libsage2
[23:58] <g0th> deb http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid universe
[23:59] <maco> etate: i think mke2fs, for example, is just an alias for mkfs telling it to use ext2
[23:59] <Bizzeh> hmmn, dont know why i was tring to install an rpm
[23:59] <maco> g0th: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sage/0.2.0-4/+build/1409457
[23:59] <sebsebseb> ircnow: maybe you can do a text boot. and then load up 10.04, worth a try I guess
[23:59] <etate> maco: yeah, though it doesn't seem to have reiser
[23:59] <Grujah> Got a small problem.. I tried to add a pannel to the bottom of the screen.. but it didn't apear and instead when I maximize a window bottom 20 or so pixels do are not used .. like in this picutre http://i42.tinypic.com/295eh3o.png
[23:59] <harjot> how do i put a bootable iso onto a usb stick?