[01:24] <mkarnicki> verterok_: ping
[02:00]  * mkarnicki went afk
[07:01] <m_tadeu> hi everyine
[07:02] <m_tadeu> can anybody tell me the status of ubuntuone client for kde?
[11:04] <d1zzy_> good morning
[11:05] <d1zzy_> I have a question about iphone ubuntu one sync contacts....
[11:05] <d1zzy_> some contacts don't sync properly....phone number is not displayed.
[11:05] <d1zzy_> any ideas?
[11:06] <rye> d1zzy_: you mean when you sync from the phone to the web interface the phone number is not displayed on the web interface or when you enter one on the web interface it does not get synced to the phone?
[11:09] <d1zzy_> when I input data on the web interface then sync on my iphone........
[11:09] <d1zzy_> server to phone
[11:09] <d1zzy_> some contacts work
[11:09] <d1zzy_> others don't
[11:10] <d1zzy_> i've been playing round with one contact - if I update the name, email it works.....mobile number doesn't
[11:13] <rye> beuno: (if you are awake) ^
[11:16] <d1zzy_> also if I add another number to a contact which is fine, the new number doesn't sync update eventhough app says it does........
[11:18] <d1zzy_> ps....i've been trying to sync over wireless connection......
[11:18] <d1zzy_> will try over 3g (carrier)
[11:18] <d1zzy_> still the same
[11:44] <kazade> I've got a weird problem with U1... everything was working fine earlier, then I thought I'd sync a bzr repository. So I "pushed" a bzr repo to a folder in my Ubuntu One directory. (e.g. ~/Ubuntu One/Code/some_project) but it won't sync and nothing under "Code" will sync either..
[11:44] <kazade> there's nothing in the log to indicate it even recognizes that anything was added under the "Code" directory, even if I manually create a folder there
[11:45] <kazade> U1 seems to think there is nothing to sync... it's like my folders are invisible
[11:49] <kazade> hmm, ok it looks like it's only recognizing top-level directories under Ubuntu One... subfolders show the refresh symbol but don't appear in the U1 log at all
[12:03] <duanedesign> kazade: hello
[12:08] <kazade> hi
[12:09] <duanedesign> kazade: i am trying to see if i have any bzr repos in my U1 folder
[12:10] <duanedesign> there was some discussion awhile back about keeping bzr repoos under Ubuntu One.
[12:10] <kazade> I think that *might* have triggered it, but it could be a red herring..
[12:10] <kazade> right now *any* subfolder of a top-level directory won't sync
[12:10] <kazade> if I create a new folder under "Ubuntu One", that syncs fine. If I create a folder inside that, then nothing happens
[12:11] <duanedesign> hmm, ok
[12:11] <kazade> even the log just keeps printing the same idle statement
[12:12] <kazade> it's only folders as well.., documents sync fine
[12:13] <kazade> hmm, ok, after a reboot things seem to be working again..
[12:13] <kazade> but the folder icons continually show a refresh icon, even though the files exist when I browse online
[12:14] <kazade> actually, ignore that. the .bzr folder synced, but not the others - maybe it is related
[12:15] <kazade> although this time it is at least saying "WORKING_ON_BOTH" whereas before it said "IDLE" perhaps i just need to give it a while
[12:16] <duanedesign> kazade: can you post the contents of yhis file on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:16] <duanedesign>  ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[12:18] <kazade> yep, one sec
[12:18] <duanedesign> kazade: ok sounds  like it might be working now. Just be aware if it goes idle again before the files are synced
[12:21] <kazade> duanedesign, http://paste.ubuntu.com/434893/
[12:21] <kazade> but, I'm pretty sure there is nothing useful in there, I was watching it via "tail -f" as I tried to create the folders etc.
[12:21] <kazade> nothing registered at all when creating the subfolders
[12:22] <kazade> it *does* appear to be working now though
[12:29] <duanedesign> kazade: yes the tail command can be very useful when monitoring syncs
[12:29] <kazade> duanedesign, OK, it's switched back to IDLE - everything *appears* to be synced but the refresh icon is refusing to change to a tick..
[12:30] <kazade> ah.. that might be because of .pyc files..
[12:31] <kazade> hmm, nope not that... all folders have a refresh icon, but all files inside the folders have a tick..
[12:31] <kazade> oh well, minor niggle
[12:47] <aquarius> kazade, try hitting Reload in the window showing a folder icon with a refresh emblem on it
[12:48] <aquarius> that happened to me earlier
[12:52] <kazade> aquarius, tried that, lots :)
[12:52] <kazade> no dice
[12:53] <kazade> I'm sure another reboot and it will be showing me nice green ticks
[12:53] <aquarius> kazade, darn.
[12:53] <aquarius> kazade, rodrigo_ may know more about this
[12:56] <kazade> just worked out aquarius == aq == sil == you ... sorry slow on the uptake there... need more coffee
[12:58]  * aquarius grins
[12:58] <aquarius> ya, that's m
[12:58] <aquarius> me
[12:58] <directhex> i hope aquarius realises i won't be able to remove the divine comedy from my brain until the utf-8 characters issue is gone from the u1ms addin
[12:59] <aquarius> I don't get what's up with that. I've been trying to work it out. I thought I'd fixed it :(
[12:59] <aquarius> also, why would you want to remove The Divine Comedy from your brain? It's excellent. :)
[13:00] <directhex> it's been a week!
[13:00] <popey> wonder how many copies of that Twisted Sister track U1MS will sell after UDS
[13:01] <aquarius> popey, I meant to update the front page of the EU store to make it a featured song, but I forgot :(
[13:01] <popey> _you_ get to choose featured songs!?
[13:01] <popey> lordy
[13:02] <aquarius> well, strictly, mattgriffin :)
[13:02] <directhex> muahahahhaha, what i would do with such power
[13:02] <aquarius> reason number 12 why directhex doesn't get such power, as if we needed more reasons ;-)
[13:02] <aquarius> actually, I'd probably like the store even more if you ran it :P
[13:03] <directhex> "today is aphex twin and j-pop day!"
[13:03] <aquarius> "oh look more Orbital songs"
[13:04] <kazade> aquarius, FWIW another reboot and bingo, green ticks
[13:04] <directhex> "country music and drill & bass!"
[13:04] <kazade> all is well in the land of U1 on my laptop
[13:04] <kazade> I'm sure I'll break it in more obscure and frightening ways later
[13:04] <aquarius> kazade, yeah, that sounds a lot like a bug in the nautilus plugin. Can you file a bug? rodrigo_ will likely be able to give you the most sensible way to write it so he'll understand it
[13:05] <kazade> ok, I'll need some help to get some kind of logs or something... dunno if "The icon didn't change" is enough to diagnose the cause :)
[13:06] <rye> folder icons?
[13:07] <kazade> aye
[13:07] <rye> they are actually broken now - there is no signal that says that the folder is synchronized so nautilus caches the unsynchronized folder emblem.
[13:08] <rye> well it depends on what broken means in this context.
[13:08] <aquarius> kazade, aha. rye has the whole of launchpad in his head, so there may already be a bug that you can me-too on :)
[13:09] <rye> hm, why it caches it..
[13:12] <kazade> ok, after searching I found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/479475
[13:12]  * popey says "bah" now he's back and his windows work machine still fails to "Connect to server" under synchronization tab :(
[13:12] <kazade> the last message is my exact problem
[13:12] <duanedesign> rye: we briefly discussed this the other day. Do you know if their is a 'master' bug for this issue? bug 580386
[13:13] <kazade> specifically this is what happened: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48509835/screenshot_009.png
[13:13] <popey> odd that when i press the "connect to server" button, the first time it takes about 10 seconds to respond with "server not responding. try again later", subsequently i press the button it's instant
[13:14] <kazade> and it's apparently marked as wishlist here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/440848
[13:19]  * rye restores evolution settings from backup and loads launchpad into his memory...
[13:20] <rye> duanedesign: bug #580386 is bug #580679
[13:21] <popey> who was I talking to about not moving notes from one machine to another manually.. as it breaks sync.. well.. http://live.gnome.org/Tomboy/Installing/Windows specifically says it's a good thing to do.
[13:23] <aquarius> popey, you were talking to rodrigo_
[13:23] <popey> ah yes
[13:23] <aquarius> and it's a good thing to do (a) to do the initial setup and (b) in a world where you're not using web sync
[13:23] <popey> not saying rodrigo_ is wrong, just that the gnome wiki is probably where I figured out it's a good thing to do
[13:23] <rodrigo_> popey, this is for "importing"
[13:23] <aquarius> moving notes around repeatedly by hand, and syncing them as well, interacts badly :)
[13:24] <aquarius> I can see how you wouldn't necessarily guess that, though!
[13:24] <rodrigo_> popey, if you don't sync and just copy them from one machine to the other, it's ok
[13:24] <popey> i was setting up a new machine aquarius
[13:24] <aquarius> rodrigo_, it might be worth updating that page to clarify how it should work in a websync world
[13:24] <rodrigo_> popey, yes, but the notes are already on the server, so if you copy, it thinks there are conflicts
[13:24] <rodrigo_> aquarius, yes, sure
[13:25] <popey> sure, I understand that now :)
[13:25] <rodrigo_> :)
[13:25] <rodrigo_> for importing while using u1, just syncing does the job
[13:25] <popey> sync on my windows machine at work still doesnt work :(
[13:26] <rodrigo_> ie, install tomboy on windows (or another machine), then authorize from tomboy, then sync
[13:26] <popey> happy i can get to one.ubuntu.com/notes :)
[13:26] <popey> rodrigo_: thats exactly what I'm doing now :(
[13:26] <rodrigo_> popey, oh, any chance you can get the --debug output, as I show you the other day?
[13:26] <popey> sure
[13:26] <rodrigo_> be back after lunch
[13:28] <popey> rodrigo_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/434937/ for when you return :)
[13:29] <aquarius> ooooo Could not load type 'System.Web.HttpUtility' from a
[13:29] <aquarius> ssembly 'Tomboy, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null'.
[13:34] <rye> popey: are you 100% sure that you have regular Tomboy install , i.e. are you 100% sure you are not running the library i gave you the other day?
[13:40] <d1zzy_> can anyone help me?
[13:42] <duanedesign> hello dikdust
[13:43] <duanedesign> oops
[13:43] <duanedesign> hello d1zzy_
[13:43] <rye> when I input data on the web interface then sync on my iphone - server to phone, some contacts work, others don't; i've been playing round with one contact - if I update the name, email it works.....mobile number doesn't
[13:43] <rye> d1zzy_: copied your message here
[13:44] <rye> phone sync - aquarius, vds or rodrigo_ ^ is there any known issue with iphone syncing not updating mobile numbers?
[13:44] <duanedesign> rye:  I was gonna ask when you got an iphone :)
[13:45] <d1zzy_> thanks
[13:45] <vds> rye: nope
[13:45] <popey> rye: i cant run that library you gave me, I'm on windows
[13:45] <popey> rye: i am now uninstalling everything and reinstalling from a new download
[13:46] <d1zzy_> some contacts sync fully, others don't......telephone numbers dont update.......
[13:46] <rye> duanedesign: at UDS i looked at palm pre, nexus one, n900 and iphone... the more I search for the phone the more I don't want to buy anything...
[13:46] <vds> d1zzy_: you mean they don;t show up on the web ui?
[13:47] <d1zzy_> nope they dont show up correctly on the iphone
[13:47] <d1zzy_> they show up on web ui
[13:47] <vds> d1zzy_: they don;t show up at all?
[13:47] <d1zzy_> iphone says sync success
[13:48] <d1zzy_> data not fully synd on iphone
[13:48] <vds> d1zzy_: I mean some shows up and some not?
[13:48] <d1zzy_> yep
[13:48] <vds> d1zzy_: I ok
[13:48] <vds> d1zzy_: unfortunately that's due to limitation of the iPhone client
[13:49] <d1zzy_> how so?
[13:49] <vds> d1zzy_: the client don't support all the possible field that can be created by the web ui or evolution
[13:49] <vds> doesn;t
[13:50] <d1zzy_> all I have is first name, last name and mobile number
[13:50] <d1zzy_> and it doesn't sync......
[13:50] <vds> d1zzy_: and what is missing?
[13:50] <vds> ah
[13:50] <d1zzy_> if I add email it syncs
[13:50] <d1zzy_> I get first name, last name - NO mobile
[13:50] <vds> d1zzy_: so the mobile number from the web ui doesn't show up on the iPhone
[13:50] <d1zzy_> eventhough you can see it in web UI
[13:51] <d1zzy_> thats right
[13:51] <d1zzy_> ive changed it to other, work, home etc.....
[13:51] <vds> d1zzy_: ok so that's a different bug and it's going to be solved very quickly
[13:52] <d1zzy_> :) thats what I like to hear....
[13:52] <d1zzy_> strange as some work and some don't
[13:59] <popey> rye / rodrigo_ \o/ success, uninstalling and reinstalling tomboy makes sync work again
[13:59] <popey> thank you both!
[14:40] <duanedesign> wasn't there a discussion on syncing Gnome Keyrings? I seem to remember some issues were mentioned..
[14:44] <dobey> duanedesign: at uds?
[14:45] <dobey> duanedesign: there was a discussion at uds lucid in dallas 6 months ago... but nothing in bru about it
[14:50] <rodrigo_> popey, cool! uninstalling on windows you mean?
[14:50] <popey> rodrigo_: haha
[14:51] <rodrigo_> popey, oh, that pastebin shows it's missing a library, right?
[14:51] <rodrigo_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/434937/
[14:51] <popey> *shrug*
[14:51] <popey> reinstalling "fixed" it
[14:53] <duanedesign> dobey: thats probably it. I thought i had heard a reason given against syncing keyrings. I have a bug I am looking to triage on that topic.
[14:53] <dobey> duanedesign: only reason i know if is that we don't currently have time to do it
[14:54] <rodrigo_> popey, :)
[14:54] <duanedesign> dobey: ok. thanks.
[14:55] <dobey> duanedesign: well, we don't have time to do it correctly. if you don't mind it being totally broken, it's really easy to do it insecurely or totally wrong :)
[14:58] <lakatoc> hey
[14:58] <lakatoc> can somebody help me out?
[14:58] <duanedesign> hello lakatoc
[14:59] <lakatoc> What's up with contact syncing
[14:59] <lakatoc> why isn't it working?
[14:59] <d1zzy_> lakatoc: do you have an iphone?
[14:59] <lakatoc> no
[15:00] <lakatoc> why is that relevant?
[15:00] <lakatoc> I'm talking about Ubuntu One syncing :P
[15:01] <d1zzy_> never mind :p
[15:01] <duanedesign> lakatoc: Contact sync from desktop to cloud has been down
[15:01] <d1zzy_> im having problems with contact syncing on iphone from web ui
[15:01] <duanedesign> d1zzy_: I just synced mine this morning
[15:01] <lakatoc> why is it down?
[15:01] <duanedesign> d1zzy_: I did have problems earlier in the weekend
[15:02] <lakatoc> By the way, I tried importing Contacts from Evolution into Gmail, but it screwed things up :P There are no email addresses in the Contact cards
[15:02] <duanedesign> lakatoc: They are doing improvements to deal with the increase of users. AFIK
[15:02] <d1zzy_> duanedesign: what problems did you have?
[15:02] <lakatoc> Why is that? Can anyone help m out? :P
[15:03] <t0uch> hi
[15:03] <duanedesign> d1zzy_: i got a server error when i tried syncing saturday. let me see if  its still in the log
[15:04] <d1zzy_> duanedesign: i can sync, just having problems with all the data syncing....specifically the mobile / phone numbers
[15:05] <duanedesign> d1zzy_: ahh. Ok. which field is getting messed up?
[15:07] <d1zzy_> adding a number......some contacts work, others don't
[15:08] <d1zzy_> i see the number in the web ui but it doesn't sync fully to the iphone
[15:08] <duanedesign> d1zzy_: are these contact you entered in the webUI or on the phone?
[15:09] <duanedesign> (sorry if you have already explained all this :P )
[15:09] <d1zzy_> duanedesign: i firstly sync'd from phone to server, amended on the web ui, re-sync'd to phone (server to phone)
[15:09] <d1zzy_> ive even deleted all contacts from phone and re-sync'd - same problem
[15:09] <d1zzy_> no probs :p
[15:27] <wogie> i was wondering if anyone would like to answer a data-loss question?
[15:32] <aquarius> hi wogie
[15:32] <wogie> hi there
[15:34] <wogie> @aquarius - would you possibly be able to help me?
[15:37] <aquarius> I can try -- rye is better at it than me :)
[15:37] <aquarius> wogie, do please tell us what the issue is
[15:37] <rye> wogie: data loss? I am all ears
[15:38] <wogie> i upgraded to Lucid with a fresh install, without formatting my home directory, which is what I normally do. This time, during the first Ubuntu One sync for this install, all my folder were gone.
[15:40] <wogie> is there any way to recover the files from a weeks ago? oh, and thanks for replying :)
[15:40] <aquarius> hm. that's, obviously, not supposed to happen. rye? Do you have any data on this?
[15:41] <aquarius> duanedesign, ?
[15:42] <wogie> I've seen a few problems simmilar to this on the Launchpad questions
[15:42] <aquarius> I don't myself have info on this at my fingertips, but rye should be able to help, if he's around.
[15:44] <rye> wogie: were there any special conditions in Ubuntu One folder - i.e. was it symlinked to some other location etc. ?
[15:44] <wogie> @aquarius - thanks
[15:44] <d1zzy_> ok ive tried 'ubuntu one' and 'funambol' iphone apps now... same problem!!
[15:44] <wogie> if I remember correctly, there was one symlinked folder, but the rest were standard folders
[15:48] <rye> wogie: could you please run the script - http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/ubuntuone-scripts/ubuntuone-account-info - we will need the email the service is registered. By "weeks" you mean how many of them?
[15:49] <wogie> 4 to be safe. I'll run the script now
[15:49] <rye> jdobrien: are you online ?
[15:50] <jdobrien> rye, no
[15:50]  * rye crashes
[15:50] <wogie> Script's been run (I think twice :P)
[15:51] <rye> wogie: it should output some info (please run it in the terminal) - it does not actually modifies anything
[15:52] <wogie> haha, sorry - I thought It would mail someone automatically. Would you like me to paste the output directly here?
[15:53] <rye> wogie: we might need the email and the ID
[15:54] <wogie> email: adamcbrewer@gmail.com | id: 122666
[15:55] <rye> jdobrien: could you please check the user info above ^ (if you are actually online) - the user claims to have folders removed by Ubuntu One.
[15:55] <rye> wogie: you have not filed a bug, i suppose, right?
[15:55] <jdobrien> rye, what can I check for?
[15:55] <jdobrien> rye, I cannot see other peoples files
[15:55] <rye> jdobrien: could you please try undeleting the files for that user?
[15:56] <wogie> I have reported the problem via a Launchpad question, but not filed a bug. The folders are named 'personal', 'scripts', 'spreadsheets', 'linux' and 'system'
[15:56] <jdobrien> rye, ok...done
[15:56] <rye> i have no timezone changes after UDS but I still feel slooow... And I did basically nothing at UDS to be tired of...
[15:57] <rye> wogie: could you please check the web interface to see whether files appeared there?
[15:57] <jdobrien> rye, they would be in a cryptic folder with guids prepended to everything..so it will be ugly
[15:58] <rye> jdobrien: has recovery changed the usage quota for the user? I am not really sure how that script works (well, i don't actually know that)
[15:58] <rye> and whether that is a script..
[15:58] <jdobrien> rye, he didn't go near his quota
[15:59] <wogie> Awesome - 'recovered...' folder is there with all my previous data! Aquarius, Rye, Jdobrien - I could hug you guys!
[15:59] <wogie> flawless support!
[15:59] <rye> wogie: are all the folders and files inside that directory having uuid-prepended strings?
[15:59] <wogie> yep
[16:00] <jdobrien> wogie, sorry it happened in the first place
[16:00] <rye> i believe we need to prevent questions to be filed for file removals, be it user error or system one (which is quite hard to debug after 4 weeks). Only bug reports.
[16:01] <wogie> it was probably a didgy inet connection from my side in the first place, haha! Still, it'll never put me off Ubuntu
[16:01] <rye> wogie: hm...
[16:03] <wogie> I should be kicking my self for not making backups in the first place
[16:05] <rye> wogie: could you please give the URL of the question you have posted about this issue?
[16:06] <wogie> rye: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+question/111347/+index - I have marked it as solved
[16:07] <wogie> rye: the folder is visible on the web client, but still not syncing with my desktop. Should I try to re-register my computer with the desktop client?
[16:07] <rye> wogie: could you please run u1sdtool --status and see what is the value of queues (in terminal as well)
[16:08] <wogie> State: LOCAL_RESCAN     connection: Not User Not Network     description: doing local rescan     is_connected: False     is_error: False     is_online: False     queues: IDLE
[16:09] <wogie> rye: now this -> State: LOCAL_RESCAN     connection: Not User Not Network     description: doing local rescan     is_connected: False     is_error: False     is_online: False     queues: IDLE
[16:10] <wogie> rye: and there it goes - working now
[16:14] <wogie> rye: thanks to both you and jdobrien - if I have any problems I'll be back asap
[16:14] <wogie> cheers
[16:22] <dobey> rye: hey, did you make any progress on reproducing the ubuntuone-login failing on first-run problem?
[16:23] <rye> dobey: i reinstalled my notebook completely, all brand new and so on, patched oauth to have more logs, rebooted... and ubuntuone-login opened the browser w/o any issues
[16:23] <dobey> rye: lovely! :)
[16:25] <dobey> did i really do no reviews last week?
[16:40] <duanedesign> how is running U1 on Kubuntu right now? Wasn't their a dependency that was cauing an issue?
[16:41] <dobey> there aren't any major issues outside the political one, and needing gnome-keyring running because kwallet doesn't implement the fd.o secrets api yet
[16:46] <duanedesign> dobey: ok. thank you much
[16:46]  * duanedesign is working on some forum posts.
[16:47] <dobey> sure
[17:54] <d1zzy_> has anyone fixed iphone contact sync yet :p
[17:56] <josephnexus> Hi everyone!
[17:56] <josephnexus> about how far out is calendar syncing in ubuntuone?
[17:57] <dobey> totally unplanned :)
[17:57] <duanedesign> hello josephnexus
[17:57] <josephnexus> hi duanedesign
[17:57]  * josephnexus is trying to get a feel for the roadmap for ubuntuone
[17:58] <JRolland> Hi all
[18:00] <josephnexus> hi JRolland
[18:00] <josephnexus> so calendar syncing isn't planned at all?
[18:01] <josephnexus> what's the point of having everything else syncable in the PIM, but not calendar?
[18:01] <josephnexus> :-P
[18:01] <josephnexus> i use IMAP, so I've got email synced
[18:01] <josephnexus> and contacts via ubuntuone, but no calendar?
[18:02] <JRolland> Can someone point me to a high level session overview for a sample client to server connection and grabbing a file? I've looked through ubuntuone-storage-protocol but not seeing high level enough
[18:03] <dobey> josephnexus: we only sync contacts. not e-mail, not calendars. :)
[18:04] <dobey> josephnexus: it would be nice to do, but we don't have infinite monkeys :)
[18:04] <josephnexus> dobey, I know
[18:04] <josephnexus> i'm just saying, right now there isn't a solution for syncing calendars that works well
[18:04] <josephnexus> so I was hoping ubuntuone would fill that gap
[18:04] <JRolland> josenphnexus: would it be possible to just put the calendar folders inside of your shares ?
[18:04] <josephnexus> but then they don't sync to my laptop and such
[18:05] <dobey> josephnexus: i don't know. i don't sync contacts or calendars. i just store them where they belong :)
[18:05] <josephnexus> when I'm away
[18:05] <josephnexus> for example, if I'm onsite and add a calendar event to my phone, it should then sync to my desktop and laptop over ubuntuone
[18:05] <josephnexus> follow what I'm saying?
[18:06] <frogdog> I'm with you on that
[18:06] <frogdog> I would really love that feature
[18:06] <dobey> josephnexus: we know what you want, and we're fairly sure how it would work, given that we've done contacts, but it's not something we're doing for Maverick, or something we have time to do given everything else we also have to do :)
[18:06] <JRolland> google calendar :( ?
[18:06] <frogdog> just throw away my filofax for good
[18:07] <frogdog> but
[18:07] <josephnexus> google calendar has been unreliable
[18:07] <josephnexus> and I trust canonical more than google
[18:07] <frogdog> JRolland, but I like the solution that evolution is
[18:07] <josephnexus> and i'd rather throw money at canonical
[18:07] <frogdog> +1
[18:07]  * dobey puts out a bucket to catch it with
[18:07] <frogdog> evolution = all in one app
[18:08] <frogdog> and it works well
[18:08] <josephnexus> dobey, i know how software development is
[18:08] <josephnexus> and that things have already been laid onto the roadmap
[18:08] <josephnexus> just so long as we get it sometime (within the next 18months would be fine for me)
[18:08] <josephnexus> i'm willing to sign up and be giving money to the project
[18:08] <CardinalFang> Within 18 months seems likely.
[18:09] <CardinalFang> Probably 12, but the planning is not my milieu.
[18:10] <frogdog> when there is action in here I must ask again what I should put in as remote db in my symbian phone for sync contacts?
[18:10]  * josephnexus only has maemo.
[18:11] <JRolland> Can anyone point me in the right direction of learning how to interact with the Ubuntu One storage server
[18:11] <frogdog> one field should contain remote db
[18:11] <frogdog> josephnexus, it's an old nokia 6680 :D
[18:12] <frogdog> apparently there is nobody here that knows what the remote db is called?
[18:12] <dobey> JRolland: sample_client.py in ubuntuone-storage-protocol might be what you're looking for
[18:12] <dobey> JRolland: depending on what you're trying to do exactly
[18:13] <JRolland> dobey: there's easy_client.py and ping_client.py both cover too much
[18:13] <dobey> well i don't know what your specific goals are
[18:15] <JRolland> dobey: Just trying to understand how it works. Connect and browse files? I have been looking at the .proto files for protobuf but that just explains the messages not how to use them
[18:15] <JRolland> is the remote server couchDB ?
[18:15] <dobey> JRolland: probably something easy_client does, or u1sync in ubuntuone-client (though we're going to remove u1sync shortly, because it's potentially dangerous, and people are telling other users to use it as a method for working around some small issues)
[18:15] <dobey> and it's mostly not kept up with new developments
[18:15] <JRolland> ahh
[18:16] <dobey> JRolland: no, storage server doesn't use couchdb
[18:16] <JRolland> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'tmp/ubuntuone-api.port'
[18:16] <dobey> JRolland: the storage server and protocol are things we developed ourselves
[18:17] <JRolland> ahhh
[18:17] <dobey> hmm
[18:17] <aquarius> frogdog, which are the fields that you're being asked for?
[18:17] <dobey> JRolland: is that error from easy_client?
[18:17] <JRolland> dobey: yes
[18:17] <dobey> bother :)
[18:17] <JRolland> dobey: especially if trying to learn, yes :(
[18:17] <frogdog> in my symbian I put in all the information about url andpassword and stuff
[18:18] <frogdog> the I have to choose what I want to sync in another tab
[18:18] <frogdog> I choose contacts and then I have to put in remote db in one field
[18:19] <frogdog> and in the other field how I would like to sync them
[18:19] <aquarius> frogdog, I don;t know the details of the Nokia 6680
[18:19] <dobey> JRolland: is there a mroe specific goal you're trying to accomplish, or just the vague overview of how things work?
[18:19] <frogdog> in the description when I added the phone that wasen't covered how to do
[18:20] <frogdog> just that I should press the joypad to the right and fill in the fields
[18:20] <aquarius> frogdog, OK. Can you list all of the fields that you need to fill in?
[18:21] <JRolland> dobey: main goal would be to be able to connect and get and put files. Like a mini client?
[18:21] <frogdog> 1. remote database 2. type of syncronisation
[18:21] <frogdog> 2. I have chosen Normal
[18:21] <aquarius> frogdog, that's all you have to fill in? you're not asked for a username or password?
[18:21] <frogdog> that I understand
[18:22] <frogdog> yes I am, but that is in another tab
[18:22] <dobey> JRolland: ah ok. so basically u1sync is what you want to do
[18:22] <aquarius> frogdog, OK. Can you list all of the fields?
[18:22] <frogdog> under this tab I can choose what to sync
[18:22] <aquarius> frogdog, and, which are the other options chooseable under "Type of synchronisation"?
[18:22] <frogdog> calendar contacts notes
[18:23] <frogdog> normal only to server and only to phone
[18:23] <frogdog> 1. normal 2. only to server 3. only to phone
[18:24] <aquarius> frogdog, OK. So, you're asked for a username and password, and then on the next tab you're asked for a "remote DB" and a "Type of Synchronisation".
[18:24] <frogdog> yes exactly
[18:25] <JRolland> dobey: Thanks, looking at it now. Any way to build it without nautilus and other gui components ?
[18:25] <frogdog> first tab includes U1 url user passwd and all that and that I have filled in
[18:26] <dobey> JRolland: u1sync doesn't use nautilus. only piece of gui it needs is the authentication bits. but you can pass in a valid token on the command line to use instead of going through the gui process
[18:26] <aquarius> frogdog, oh, so you've also been asked for the U1 URL? So the things you're asked for are URL, username, password, remote db, type of synchronisation? Is that all?
[18:27] <dobey> bbiab, really must go get food now :)
[18:28] <aquarius> frogdog, I'm reading page 87 of http://nds1.nokia.com/phones/files/guides/Nokia_6680_UG_en.pdf -- is that a good description of what you're asked for?
[18:28] <frogdog> ok this is under tab 1. Syncprofile name 2.carrier 3. accesspoint 4.url to host 5. port usrname 6. pswd
[18:29] <JRolland> dobey: doh, thanks. Is there any links that explain the authentication or messages sent like a message sequence diagram?
[18:29] <frogdog> yes
[18:31] <frogdog> so is the path the same as the url in tab 1.?
[18:31] <aquarius> frogdog, I don't think so.
[18:31] <frogdog> menether
[18:31] <aquarius> frogdog, I *think* that the "remote DB" should be "card".
[18:31] <aquarius> I am not very sure that this is correct, though.
[18:31] <aquarius> beuno, ? ^^
[18:32] <frogdog> ok I can try that
[18:32] <beuno> yes
[18:32] <beuno> card
[18:32] <beuno> although, tbh, I think it doesn't matter
[18:32] <frogdog> I'll let you know thanks alot
[18:36] <gourgi> honk :) wiki status is correct? is contact sync from computer to cloud is still disabled since May 3 ?
[18:38] <beuno> gourgi, for evolution, yes
[18:38] <gourgi> thanx beuno, bad news still :(
[18:38] <beuno> gourgi, we're a day or two away from having it fixed
[18:39] <gourgi> nice to head! keep up the good work guys
[19:03] <josephnexus> i may have found a minor bug
[19:03] <josephnexus> i'm looking inside of my projects folder
[19:03] <josephnexus> everything is synced
[19:03] <josephnexus> except the projects folder shows a few subfolders with the still syncing icon
[19:03] <josephnexus> even thougha ll of the contents are synced and u1sdtool reports all has synced
[19:07] <duanedesign> josephnexus: night look at bug 479475 and see if that sounds like your issue.
[19:08] <josephnexus> looks like it
[19:11] <JRolland> How can I run u1sync once make completes successfully ?
[19:18] <dobey> JRolland: i don't think we have no. perhaps we can get some better documentation on those bits this cycle also
[19:19] <dobey> JRolland: PYTHONPATH=. bin/u1sync
[19:20] <JRolland> dobey: Thanks I tried that, No module named u1sync.main
[19:21] <JRolland> and when I do a make install then try again I get ConfigParser.NoSectionError: No section: 'default'
[19:21] <dobey> JRolland: i think you perhaps mistyped PYTHONPATH then? i do that sometimes
[19:22] <dobey> JRolland: hrmm, make install could be a bad thing if you built with default prefixes (can cause conflicts with the packaged version, since it's a different path for the python files)
[19:22] <m_tadeu> hi
[19:22] <JRolland> you are too good to me dobey
[19:22] <m_tadeu> what's the status of the kde client?
[19:22] <JRolland> but I think going down the python rabbit hole when I don't know python is bad
[19:23] <dobey> yes it is bad
[19:23] <JRolland> I was just hoping on getting a clue and using liboauth with yajl to connect easily but I guess this is not going to happen?
[19:26] <dobey> i don't know what yaji is
[19:27] <dobey> are you trying to write a client in another language?
[19:27] <JRolland> a JSON library
[19:27] <JRolland> yes
[19:27] <JRolland> a very simple one though
[19:28] <dobey> what language?
[19:28] <JRolland> C
[19:29] <dobey> cool
[19:29] <JRolland> troubling more likely
[19:29] <dobey> well, it is C :)
[19:30] <dobey> but i've been somewhat tempted to try rewriting the syncdaemon in Vala/C anyway
[19:30] <dobey> i just have like 0 time
[19:31] <JRolland> I have nothing but time, I just can't find out how it works without learning python and digging through storage-protocol and client
[19:42] <dobey> JRolland: have you compiled the .proto files into .c/.h files?
[19:42] <JRolland> yes
[19:42] <JRolland> using protobuf-c
[19:42] <dobey> right
[19:42] <dobey> and it doesn't help at all? or is the output just too obtuse?
[19:43] <JRolland> a little obtuse, feels like reverse engineering
[19:47] <dobey> yeah, protobuf output is rather confusing
[19:48] <dobey> JRolland: are you using glib/gobject also? or just straight c?
[19:49] <JRolland> glib as well yes
[19:50] <JRolland> I saw some library libcouchdb or some such but you said the server side is not that?
[19:51] <dobey> not for files, no. files go through ubuntuone-storage-protocol
[19:52] <dobey> there is a json-glib or something though, which couchdb-glib does use
[20:33] <JRolland> dobey: if there's no lib for files does that mean there is a simple one for notes or contacts? Or did i misunderstand
[20:35] <dobey> JRolland: ubuntuone-storage-protocol is basically the "lib" for files. although it's very low level and doesn't do all the things syncdaemon does (conflict stuff, local change detection, metadata, etc...)
[20:35] <dobey> JRolland: couchdb-glib is how one accesses data in couchdb
[20:36] <dobey> JRolland: however, tomboy does not directly manipulate notes via couchdb. it uses a separate interface for syncing (the snowy rest api), and we store notes in couchdb on the server
[20:37] <JRolland> dobey: Ah thank you. Is the tomboy notes using a python API?
[20:38] <JRolland> dobey: I am going to go through client.py in storage-protocol and then try to make something in C that connects to fs-1 and uses the generated protobuf-c code to try and login
[20:39] <dobey> no, tomboy notes uses a REST API, all the local tomboy stuff is C#
[20:42] <mkarnicki> verterok: ping :)
[20:44] <JRolland> dobey: Is there a place I can take a look at how tomboy does what it does ?
[20:44] <verterok> mkarnicki: pong
[20:45] <mkarnicki> verterok: got couple of minutes :) ?
[20:45]  * JRolland brb
[20:45] <verterok> mkarnicki: sort of, shoot and I'll try to answer :)
[20:46] <mkarnicki> verterok: I'll go priv
[20:46] <verterok> k
[20:48] <dobey> JRolland: http://live.gnome.org/Snowy
[21:44] <dobey> later all
[21:50] <mkarnicki> later dobey
[23:35] <m_tadeu> does anyone know the status on the ubuntuone kde client?
[23:54] <mkarnicki> I might have found a simple sync bug, anyone to try replicating that?
[23:55] <mkarnicki> I created a folder named 'Ubuntu One test', and an empty file inside. I selected "synchronize on ubuntu one" it synced.
[23:55] <mkarnicki> I removed the folder from the computer. Now I don't know how to delete it from the web GUI.
[23:56] <mkarnicki> I might have 'Shared that folder' with myself (providing my e-mail) for testing purposes.
[23:57] <mkarnicki> I cannot remove it from the web GUI now. Leave the message, if you could replicate that or tell me what I did wrong :)
[23:57] <joshuahoover> mkarnicki: can you try the workaround reported in bug #576080
[23:57] <mkarnicki> joshuahoover: sure