[00:50] <_guitarman_> here's a question for you
[00:51] <_guitarman_> how do you make qjackctl not suspend pulseaudio - other then the tab in the app itself - i have unchecked it so it doesn't launch it
[00:54] <ScottL> _guitarman_, the qjackctl application you are calling from the menu is really a script that runs pasuspender and then starts the real binary qjackctl
[00:55] <ScottL> if you run the qjackctl binary directly it will not start the pasuspender, or run jack from the command line ;)
[00:56] <ScottL> so type /user/bin/qjackctl.bin should start qjackctl without starting the pausupender
[00:56] <ScottL> i think
[00:57] <_guitarman_> i will give that a go ScottL but i believe i tried /usr/bin/qjackctl ... testing 
[00:59] <ScottL> _guitarman_, i just tested it while listening to holy diver on youtube, started qjackctl via command line by calling the binary dirctly and it didn't stop dio from singing
[01:01] <_guitarman_> ScottL: strange
[01:01] <_guitarman_> ScottL: i can't start qjackctl at all now... 
[01:03] <_guitarman_> bus error
[01:03] <_guitarman_> meh
[12:01]  * abogani waves
[12:07] <jussi> hiya abogani
[12:08] <abogani> jussi: Hi Jussi
[12:29] <ScottL> hi abogani and jussi 
[12:29] <jussi> o/ ScottL
[12:31]  * abogani is also known as abogani@kernel.org right now.
[12:33] <jussi> abogani: :)
[12:34] <quadrispro> ciao abogani, jussi, ScottL 
[12:34] <jussi> hiya quadrispro
[12:35] <abogani> jussi: Do you have some news for us from UDS? :-)
[12:35] <jussi> abogani: what kind of news? 
[12:35] <quadrispro> ScottL, I've read your article: great post!
[12:35] <jussi> to be honest I didnt get to many of the sound sessions, as I had a lot of community stuff to do
[12:44] <astraljava> abogani: Is there a reason to celebrate? re: abogani@kernel.org
[12:49] <abogani> astraljava: No absolutely 
[12:49] <astraljava> abogani: Okay, thought there was something to be read into that.
[13:44] <ScottL> quadrispro, thanks :)  i'm blushing
[13:45] <astraljava> Which article are you guys talking about? /me feels out of loop. :)
[13:50] <ScottL> astraljava, it's my blog    http://dullass.blogspot.com/
[14:04] <ScottL> i'm going to be leaving in an hour or so for a three day trip so i will not be around on IRC
[14:04] <ScottL> i'll leave the computer on though
[14:15] <abogani> ScottL: Have a nice trip!
[14:18] <astraljava> ScottL: Yeah, what he said. :)
[14:31] <ScottL> thanks!
[17:42]  * persia *finally* figures out how to connect to IRC again :(
[17:43] <persia> ScottL: Regardless of whether we support lucid for 5 years, I think we should support for at least 18 months, including stuff for 10.04.1
[17:45] <abogani> persia: 5 years? Isn't it 3?
[17:45] <persia> Depends on one's viewpoint :)
[17:46] <persia> One could argue that the desktop-interactive stuff is 3-year, but I could well imagine someone setting up a headless MIDI box without ubuntustudio-desktop installed.
[17:46] <persia> Anyway, doesn't really matter.  We ought do what we can, when we can.
[17:49]  * abogani is happy to see "Supported:" line into apt-cache show output...
[17:50] <persia> It's a start.  Needs work to allow arbitrary groups to declare support, but that's in the future.