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coz_hey all10:45
coz_damn fingers :)10:46
darkmatterhiya coz_ o/10:52
coz_darkmatter,  hey guy :)10:52
coz_darkmatter,  how are you feeling ?10:53
darkmattercoz_: better now that I had some tylenol. didn't realize how much strength the first round of treatment sapped from me. needed air earlier, so went to buy breads/sandwich goods. basket weighed a maximum of 15 lbs (probably closer to 8, but felt heavier), but was like wrestling a damn elephant10:55
darkmatterfeel the burn!10:55
coz_darkmatter,  ooo yikes10:55
darkmattercoz_: those little green grocery baskets. I needed both hands to carry it.. lol10:56
coz_darkmatter,  I know this is "bump" in the road for you ... but I believe you can beat this thing again10:56
darkmatterbut otherwise I'm feeling fine. treatment is already showing results. all the  grossly inflamed lympho nodes near the surface (the visible ones) were gone three days after I started10:57
darkmatterlymph*10:58
coz_darkmatter,  ooo cool  ...that's good news  yes?10:58
darkmattercoz_: it's not even a bump. it's a hiccup. just a relapse (being a chronic thing and all), but nowhere even remotely near the evil it was the last time10:59
coz_darkmatter,  oh very very cool then....10:59
darkmattercoz_: yupmeans the therapy they put me on is working. the leukemia will respond a bit slower (I'll hit rock bottom around next monday, then my blood will start strengthenimg slowly), but whatever11:00
darkmattercoz_: last time it was "omg! stage 4! you're dying!". well, if that didn't kill me nothing will :D11:01
darkmatterso little stage 1/2 is childs plaay11:01
coz_darkmatter,  oh man.... i cant begin to understand what you are going through with this...all I know is I am sure you will beat this damn thing11:01
darkmatterfingers no wurkiez :/11:01
coz_darkmatter,    I was real worried last time  especially when I didnt hear from you for a way long tim11:03
coz_time11:03
darkmattercoz_: meh. only thing I'm going through is high levels of toxicity :P. the cancer hasn't ever been a big deal, really *shrug*. I mean, leukemia's and lymphomas are persistent buggers. but they respond well to treatments11:03
darkmattercoz_: thanks for caring :). and thats the  thing I hate about cancer. it stresses other people out11:05
coz_darkmatter,  ok then I will just be vigilant about asking how you are :)11:05
darkmatterI mean, give me an iv and a shot of vodka and I'm fine. it's the rest that are worry warts11:05
coz_darkmatter,  :)11:05
darkmattercoz_: needless to say I'm on sabbatical. having a valid excuse for being a lazy arse is win ;p11:08
coz_darkmatter,   I understand... and I  admire the stoic approach to this you have.... but i will still be  concerned  .... ok I will keep it at a minimum :)11:09
darkmattercoz_: bah. wikipedia may be the crappiest resource on the planet, but is accurate enough http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-cell_chronic_lymphocytic_leukemia it not _that_ bad of a cancer to have11:15
coz_darkmatter,   well wikipedia is not going to stop me from checking with you now and then :)11:22
darkmatterlol. k :)11:22
darkmatterbut yeah. most patients live a normal lifespan, they just have occasional hurdles to jump over11:23
coz_:)11:23
coz_there ...just got rid of buttons on the left in lucid :)11:23
darkmatter:)11:26
coz_darkmatter,  i think buttons on the left make sense if you are left handed or have a physical handicap... or something in that vein...but doing it on purpose seems like a brain fart :)11:28
coz_just my opinion ^^ :)11:28
darkmattercoz_: aye. I mean, at least when it comes to an OS that traditionally had them on the right11:28
coz_darkmatter,  yeah :)11:29
darkmatterI call it consistency. imaging the geekrage that would ensue if MS moved their window buttons to the left ;)11:29
coz_darkmatter,  ooo I would like to see that happen :)11:30
darkmatterand my fingers still no wurkiez :/11:30
darkmatterbah. they'll recover after some sleep. I'm just not going to bed until I medicate11:31
darkmatter2 more hours11:31
coz_darkmatter,  yeah go rest  dude !11:32
coz_darkmatter,  you have been sleeping ok yes?11:32
darkmattercoz_: two hours! I need to stay upuntil 6:30 so I can have a breakfast of antibiotics!11:32
darkmattercoz_: yup. napping most of the day11:33
coz_darkmatter,  i already know you take vitamins also so  cool   rest is important11:33
darkmatterbut insomnia sorta. common side effect. tend to be up in the middle of the night11:33
coz_darkmatter,  as long as you are rested ....11:33
darkmatteryup11:33
darkmatterI need to crack a window. it's 14 C out, which makes the puter room feel like 48 C :P11:34
coz_ooo11:34
darkmatterwell. thats a bit of an exaggeration, but you know what I mean. warmest room in the house11:35
coz_darkmatter,  yeah I got it :)11:36
darkmatterespecially after a high of 31 C yesterday. hot stagnant air11:36
coz_darkmatter,  we have had rain here all day yesterday and apparenlty the same is going to happen today... it got chilly last night.... I just dont want a frost to happen because I have already planted my veggies :)11:37
darkmatterwe're supposed to have t-storms, but they're not showing up. so it's just heat and humidity :P11:38
coz_eeeww11:39
coz_i hate humidity11:39
darkmattercoz_: even though I generally loath heat. it's kinda nice having late july temps in may11:39
coz_darkmatter,  understood :)11:40
darkmatterbecause we had march temps up untillast week. including snow :P11:40
coz_darkmatter,  oh!  wow  its been fairly ok here just wet  and one frost11:41
darkmatterit was like, -2to -6 C average, then suddenly "boom!" barbecue season :D11:41
coz_:)11:41
kwwiihi all11:43
darkmatterspeaking of barbecue. I should put the hibachi together11:43
kwwiihi darkmatter, coz_11:43
darkmatterhiya kwii11:43
kwwiiyou can send some of the nice weather to germany11:43
coz_kwwii,  hey guy11:43
kwwiiit has been crap for the last 3 weeks11:43
coz_kwwii,  cold?11:43
kwwiicold and wet11:44
coz_eeeww11:44
kwwiiin the mountains it has been snowing again11:44
darkmattercoz_: people keep telling me to get a real barbecue, but I only need to grill supper, not smoke a side of beef :P11:44
coz_darkmatter,  :)11:44
kwwiidarkmatter: a hibachi can be a very good grill11:45
kwwiiif one knows how to use it11:45
darkmatterkwwii: I wuv my hibachi11:45
kwwiidarkmatter: I wish I could find one in germany11:45
coz_guys... I only got a couple hours sleep last night....damn iced tea.... i am going to a nap   be back a bit later  ... sorry for quick departure11:45
kwwiiI already have two weber grills :p11:45
darkmatter:)11:46
kwwiihehe11:47
darkmatterkwwii: we had pretty crappy weather here until around the 12th. now we have an evil heat wave. crazy jetstream11:48
kwwiidarkmatter: I would love a heat wave now11:48
kwwiifunny this, I posted about using hugin11:48
kwwiiand one of the comments is "hey, you're using a modified Ambiance!"11:48
darkmatterlol11:49
kwwiiif they were only as attentive to my bzr branches11:49
darkmatterhehe11:49
darkmatteryay! only an hour and a half until I take my pharmaceutical breakfast! \o/11:54
kwwiithe pink ones taste lovely11:54
darkmatteryes. but the little white ones taste like ammonia smells :/11:55
kwwiiblah11:55
kwwiiI guess they don't allow you to take it with a stiff drink11:55
kwwiiwhiskey for breakfast isn't probably the best idea anyway11:56
darkmatterallopurinal being the little white beasts in question11:56
kwwiithe name sounds like it really cleans you out11:56
darkmatterkwwii: meh. I'll be able to have an occasional drink after my blood starts to recover11:56
darkmattermy bloodwork should hit rock bottom around monday or so, then start improving11:57
kwwiithen I bet you'll really enjoy it11:57
darkmatterhehe. I bet ya I will. a little bit is a good thing :)11:58
kwwiimy step dad has been having some pretty serious problems and i know he is looking forward to having his frist drink :-)11:58
darkmatterwell. for me it's the FCR chemo regime. it kills the bone marrow and the lymphatic system (basically), so until it recovers a bit ethanol is kinda evil11:59
darkmatterbreakfast is a handful of antibiotics. lol12:00
kwwiiconsidering the kind of chemicals and what they are supposed to do it seems better12:00
kwwiido you have any dietary limitations?12:01
kwwiino alcohol or drugs is pretty clear12:01
kwwiithink how bad it would get if they told you to only eat couscous or such :p12:01
darkmatternot particularly. basically if my digestive system can handle it I can eat it. I just lack an appetite and the ability to handle a full meal12:02
kwwiiyeah, once the chemo is over that'll change12:02
darkmatterI'll have a sandwich or a salad, or a small bowl of a meal replacement cereal or whatever12:03
kwwiiI suggest eating soups12:03
kwwiieasier to digest12:03
darkmatterbut heck. it's worth the suffering. FCR chemo is more effective than the crap I was on the last time12:04
darkmatterkwwii: I eat those too12:04
darkmatterchicken I can handle fairly well. and I can still stomach my seafood chowders :D12:05
kwwiido you cook yourself? if you ever need recipes or ideas, just ask12:05
darkmatterI always cook. I just have to avoid a few of my favorites (it's not so much a matter of dietary limitations as it is preventing ulcerations)12:06
kwwiiyeah, that is what I thought12:06
kwwiinothing too spicy (and maybe avoid too many tomatoes)12:07
darkmatterI _love_ spicy stuff (as in peppers so high on the scoville scale they'd hospitalize most people :P). but because of the cyclophosphamide, it can lead to oral ulcerations, and thus potential infections12:08
darkmatterso I kinda need to not enjoy them for the time being12:08
kwwiiluckily I live in germany so if I don't cook it myself it definitely won't be spicy12:09
darkmatterI indulged in a red desert tepin at my brothers, and it burnt the crap out of my lips :(12:09
kwwiieven when they call it spicy, it's not spicy12:09
kwwii:-(12:09
darkmatterand they're so tasty too. little tiny capsicum about the size of a blueberry12:10
kwwiihehe, never had one12:11
* thorwil still remembers the burn from when an indian colleague of his mother cooked dinner for the both families12:14
darkmatteroccasionally I'll eat one raw (whatever variety), but I usually just use them as seasoning in curries and such. but at least I have a reason other than "nom" to indulge in my beloved spiciness. not only is capsicum an effective anti-cancer supplement, so are things like turmeric, etc. so curry++12:16
darkmatterkwwii: but anyway. the red desert tepin (also called the wild desert tepin) is the hottest species of capsicum on the planet. try at your own risk ;)12:18
kwwiidarkmatter: wow, sounds scary...at least I know of one more thing to avoid :p12:22
kwwiiI like it hot but not that hot12:22
darkmatterhehe12:22
darkmatterkwwii: most are fine as a seasoning. I just recommend most people avoid doing crazy thing like eating one whole and undiluted xD12:24
kwwiidarkmatter: indeed :-)12:24
kwwiihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1-Q_8EbB8A nice12:27
darkmatterthey look so small, unassuming and harmless until you put one in your mouth. hehe12:27
darkmatterkwwii: win for big bang theory. even though sheldon's an idiot ;)12:29
kwwiiwe are now becoming mainstream12:29
kwwiilol12:29
darkmatteryup. once you're mentioned on a sitcom you know you're going places12:30
vishkwwii: hi.. could you send the originals? [the group foto] :)13:32
vishdarkmatter: sheldon is the best ;p13:35
darkmatter:P13:35
kwwiivish: erm, that is 345+ MB of photos13:56
vishkwwii: oh , well then probably the two of the left side of the room would be enough .. ;)13:56
kwwiivish: none of my email will let me send 34.5MB files13:57
thorwildropbox? ;p13:58
vishhrm.. if you can bzip it, it would probably be smaller ..13:59
kwwiithe tiff files use LZW anyway14:00
kwwiiI will try and put them in ubuntuone14:00
kwwiibut only one of them to test14:00
vishooo , U1 .. need to get that setup in my system :D14:00
vishsomehow i kept having problems with it :/14:01
kwwiino worries, it will take forever to upload this to ubuntuone anyway14:05
kwwiiok, it is in my ubuntuone14:20
vishkwwii: yay , and public url is... ?14:26
* vish plans on grabbing kwwii's flickr photos once he uploads his Brussels roll ;)14:27
kwwiiubuntuone.com/p/4Bw14:31
kwwiivish: most of my photos are already on my flickr page14:31
vishkwwii: Bruno's photos were neat , the room looks much more awesome in the photos ;)14:32
kwwiihehe, thanks14:37
dmacEnter text here...hello16:29
dmacanyone home16:30
dmachello16:30
pepsimanWhat would I report a bug against to get http://www.ubuntu.com/files/countdown/1004/countdown-10.04-1/00.png changed?  It says "Its" where it should say "It's"16:31
dmac?16:31
dmaci'm here looking for equipment.16:31
vishpepsiman: it might be late but , kwwii might know how to fix it ;)16:43
vishor how to get it fixed16:43
pepsimanok, I've sent him an email16:49
knomeanybody happen to know how to control the padding of foldertree items in thunderbird 3?21:30
andreasn_knome, sure21:42
andreasn_do you have the tb source code in front of you?21:42
knomeandreasn_, no :P i have userchrome.css :P21:43
knomeisn't there any other way?21:43
knomei'm also trying to find out if i can call system colors from the userchrome file21:43
andreasn_well, it's just that it's easier to see what to style if you have the folderpane.css in front of you21:43
andreasn_try treechildren21:43
knomewhere should i find that file? :)21:43
knome#folderTree treechildren { height: 3px !important;21:44
knome}21:44
knome --> no effect21:44
andreasn_bbl21:45
knomethere doesn't seem to be any padding related stuff in folderPane.css21:46
andreasn_knome, still around?23:07
knomeandreasn_, yeah, and i actually found a partial solution23:08
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andreasnah, good23:08
knomestill having hard time reverting some of the items BACK with more padding23:08
knome#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-row { margin-top: -1px; margin-bottom: -1px;23:08
knome}23:08
knomethat worked for me23:09
andreasnDOM inspector is usually great, but it has a hard time with the treeviews sometimes23:09
andreasnah, cool23:09
knomebut it cuts the icons23:09
knomei've removed them from most items already, so not a *big* issue23:09
andreasnyeah, it's because of the -1px margins I guess23:10
knomeyup.23:11
andreasnlet me know if you run into any more issues, this is what I do all day long :)23:11
knomecool, i will23:11
knomegoing to sleep soonish but will get back to this tomorrow or at latest, the day after23:12
knomebtw, you might be interested in my folderpanestyle for tb2; http://open.knome.fi/2009/10/16/a-compact-thunderbird-folderpane-revision-2/23:12
andreasnhere is the folderpane.css btw http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/file/7823da3c6bf2/mail/themes/gnomestripe/mail/folderPane.css23:13
knomei'm trying to achieve something similar but of course, with even more fixes and improvements23:13
knomeyeah i found that, no use for that really23:13
knomemargin-end == right23:13
knomeand then there's just lots of image definitions23:14
andreasnyeah, that's so it works for left-to-right languages23:14
andreasnmost of it is picked up from the global variables23:14
knomeyeah23:14
knomewell i don't need to think special cases23:14
knomei don't think i will publish this very widely, only posting a file in my blog23:15
knomeif people get interested, then maybe...23:15
andreasnI like the idea a lot, I always end up with too many subfolders to get a good overview23:15
knomeyeah. i wanted to see all my folders at once23:16
knome(and all my accounts...)23:16
andreasnare you looking into the messageheader pane and message pane as well?23:16
knomeprobably, but that's not my main focus and that will come later, if at all23:17
knomethe folderpane is what i need working like it used to to be able to work effectively23:17
knomeanyway, i'm going to sleep now so have a nice evening23:18
]grimm[Does someone here know what theme engine the latest updated Dust family themes in gnome-themes-ubuntu depends on?  I was using the old .5x series without a problem but when I just updated to the latest version that shipped with Lucid, I find that I'm losing colors and controls23:54

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